Fenriru 2: Eccentric boogaloo

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Is it truly gray or just faggots spraypainting something black with white?

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XiE8_QZmp6ii2geBScF5Esm1TKyocRsodS34fUsdFuw/edit

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>>72021032
What does Idol have left? lmao

[Anonymous No.]

Checkmae Pochi, you can't outjew the jew

[Anonymous No.]

Here you go fuckers
>>72019448

>>72019713
>>72020307

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>>72021032
people said phase is good though

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>>72021032
kek

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>>72021278
>>72019713
>tried to run with the money
But the jewcorp has that money
>>72020307
>she tried to run with the money before. Surely she will do it again.
Same as above, just muddier

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>>72021375
Fuck off plappa

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>>72021516
So that Fenriru is the idol dog?

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>>72021251
>company credit card
>quarterly budget
Ohhh shiny. something something glitter is gold
>Donothon... Idol will be covering those expenses.
Great in paper. Let's see this in practice- whoops there's a knot and everything is not that smooth now isn't it?

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>>72021032
phasekeks?

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>>72021032
If it was anyone other than her this would’ve gotten some traction

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>>72021032
Besides her not getting much attention without a termination notice to catch people's eyes, she made this really hard for herself by leaving fans in an ambiguous position between her and the corpo. Dokibird was terminated because the corpo blocked her from giving back to her fans, and she released the song for her fans anyway.
This girl, on the other hand, showed herself to be mostly concerned with herself, barely streams and seems to resent the idea of having to fulfill her donothon goals (which aren't just an obligation to her company, but actually primarily to her fans). Even with how much of a default reaction "corpo bad" is at the moment, she has tough hill to climb.

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>>72021032
Who?

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>>72021032
QRD for those who can't speak women:
Pochi had a 2 day donothon in the middle of December to move to a different country. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYM6gtNCgTc
In January, Pochi submitted a timeline to Idol to allow for her to graduate. This was obviously going to block her from completing donothon rewards. Such rewards like:
>the plush, cards, and other rewards going to the top 10 donors
>the billboard
>getting a cat and doing a vlog about purchasing stuff for it
>mascot live2d, pochi 3d vr experience
>voicepack
>a full idol offcollab
I'm not sure what the "NotStarbucks Mini Game" refers to. I assume it's the offcollab, and that Idol expected her to get the planning for that done. Ponpups mascot plush is the mascot thing mentioned, and likely requires a full turn around ref + contact with a plush maker, with the ref also being required for the live2d.
Since she was trying to leverage the completion of donothon rewards with her being allowed to graduate, Idol did not pay her. She was being asked to sign things that likely said "You will complete the rewards you promised before being allowed to graduate."
If a ponpup is here, please correct me, but the only costly donothon rewards that's been fulfilled is the cat one shortly after the donothon (with the shopping spree happening off stream), and the retro console one in late January.

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>>72024082
So basically she tried to scam her fans and idol stopped her

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>>72022814
We really can't compare her with doki. And why are people hung up on these donothons? Is it really enough to crucify someone because donothon goal was not fulfilled?

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>>72024281
Correct. Most of these required her actual input in some way, and should have been discussed or shown on stream if it was completed. I couldn't find a cat stream, but the retro stream is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wQ4QSSPdBU
Here is what I assume to be the shelter cat: https://twitter.com/PochiWanmaru/status/1740884220053217447 with the statement that she's buying stuff for it here: https://twitter.com/PochiWanmaru/status/1751301579612078364
You can check the donothon rewards here: https://twitter.com/PochiWanmaru/status/1733163634975531182 She got $41000 dollars from the donothon, so all of them are available.

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>>72021032
For better or worse, props to Doki for giving courage for all these vtubers to give us info.

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Pochi why are you like this. Are you trying to pull a Dokibird on your company? That's extremely unlikely because what you're doing is literally scamming your fans and donors.

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>>72021032
The funds go to rin Penrose 200/hr shorts editors

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>>72024546
ex vtubers dropping google docs is a long tradition
even in nijiEN Zaion did it before her

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>>72024520
>I have moved
Oh shit. This is worse than expected. Imagine everything running on credit expecting that you will get your pay only to have your account frozen. Just imagine the compounding interest.

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isn't it kind of retarded how these small corpos make talents do donothons within a month, two or three after starting? perhaps that wasn't the case here but in general all the small corpos do this. i always thought that was a scummy cashgrab, and i thought they would earn less since fans haven't gotten properly attached yet, but now i realize it's also stupid because the corpo doesn't know if the girl will actually deliver.

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>>72024700
Yeah but usually they benefit the vtuber lmao.

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>>72021032
Pochi is a lunatic, always has been. I don't like doki, but Pochi puts her to shame in the grifting department.

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>>72024804
Pochi is EXTRA retarded

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>>72024518
Yes. If goals are set, its no longer a donation, its an investment.

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>>72021251
Frankly the biggest long term redflag with Idol right now is not Pochi or Yuko or Riro, its that whole Brave deal where it looks loke they wanna sell instead of building up.

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>>72024871
What kind of retarded statement is this?

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>>72024518
People who donate to donothons do so because they want to see the goals fulfilled. Not completing the goals essentially means scamming your fans. And if you scam your fans you're the lowest of the low.

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>>72021032
If her fans are okay with her attempt at a scam maybe the top 10 donators and as many other donothon contributors could send emails to aviel that they are okay with the goals not getting fulfilled and to just give her her share
Although top 10 donors only make 25k out of 41k

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>>72024948
Donothons
>I will donate to see my oshi enjoy things or have a good laugh with some batsu games
>or else I would crucify her if she didn't do these things

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>>72021251
>from now on

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>>72024518
why do fans who donate thousands during donothons don't do it on random streams? because of course it's not about being charitable, it's about at least getting some mileage out of their money

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>>72025340
>getting some mileage out of their money
Sounds like a whorehouse which seems to be what that jewcorp is.

[Anonymous No.]

A second nothingburger has hit the tower.

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donothons are obviously partly transactional. you don't have to hate and anti the chuuba if they don't deliver but you don't have to sue a company that scams you either. it's definitely a scam either way

[Anonymous No.]

i don't watch this corp because it's israeli. someone spoonfeed me on why there's so much defense and bootlicking for an israel backed company

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>>72025543
It has chuubas
>we
like

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>>72025254
Hey, can you send me $100 real quick? I'll do whatever you want in return, pinky promise.

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>>72021032
I always knew phase was better

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>>72025437
that's every donothon ever. instead of just throwing your money into the void you will get a personal reward for being a top donator or donating 'x' amount. And you get the promise of something you might be interested in and that may require money to be fulfilled like nsfw art, food, special equipment or even a model.

[Anonymous No.]

This jewish company does not give a single fuck about their vtubers or the industry. I can't wait until these whores are sold off to another company.

[Anonymous No.]

Why did they Stalin out the Israeli connection in the redebuts?

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>>72025723
Are you my oshi tho?

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>>72025954
the question is whether your oshi remains your oshi after she does the same thing anon is implying

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>>72025735
Fuck off plappa

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>>72024518
> Is it really enough to crucify someone because donothon goal was not fulfilled?
Not necessarily, but that she doesn't want to fulfill the goals because she doesn't want to work for the corporation anymore indicates that she's not putting a lot of importance on giving her fans what they thought they paid for; she's not resisting for her fans, she's mainly just resisting for herself.
It's not a disaster, but she needs more than just to not be crucified - she needs sympathy and loyalty from her fans. If they don't cause an uproar and rally the broader vtubing "community" behind her, she doesn't have much leverage in her conflict with Idol.

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>>72025989
Yes, only she'll become my pregnant oshi.

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>>72025954
Yeah, 100%

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>>72025772
>I donated so I could pleasure myself
Jacking off would be much easier

[Anonymous No.]

Once again, Donothons continue to be the biggest snake oil scam in all of vtubing.
I can only count on one hand how many of them actually end with them doing their pledges.
Some rich lonely bastard will donate $5k+ in one stream and never get anything out of it.

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What would you do if you were running a vtubing company and one of your laziest chuubas was refusing to finish donation goals she promised and not only that was trying to leave the company with the money?

I usually am on the side of the talent, but Pochi's own account makes her seem more like the problem.

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>>72026210
>Some rich lonely bastard will donate $5k+ in one stream and never get anything out of it.
A fool and his money are soon parted.

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The only thing worse than donothons are sleep streams.

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>>72026225
Don't let her leave with the money and fire her. Are these things really not that obvious?

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>>72025954
For sure I'm the person you think I am! You'll see once you send me the money, anon!

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>72025254
>Crucify
Bitch, no one is asking for her head, no one was even asking about the donothon rewards before the doc, she put the spotlight on her herself.

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>>72025254
Goals are a commitment. You can flake out on them and run off with the money, well, unless your corporation stops you. But you shouldn't expect to get a positive reception to that choice.
Best of luck to both of them, I don't watch the jewcorpo.

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>>72026307
Sleep streams are ok, because you can ignore them. Reaction streams are a cancer, because the more they do them the more they want to do them.

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>>72025437
my brother in Christ, that's what vtubing is

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>>72026307
subathons are worse, donothons are just grifts over like 2-4 days, subathons can go for months and just turn into sleeping on stream, reacting to shitty yt videos, how do these cucks stay watching that for over a month?

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>>72026556
>no one is asking for her head
Good to know in advance that you're not reading the thread
>>72024644
>>72024832
>>72024838

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>>72021251
>Company is hit by scandal
>Company actually puts their hands into their pocket to make sure things work
>Company actually have papers to show against the accusations instead of tossing their livers in a black screen.
Asking me what's the difference? I think I can see it clearly. I see the comments and that's why Doki can do it and the company is the one hiding while this is going the opposite way.
If Niji had anything they would have already shown, and if they wanted to change anything they would have already do it. The weaker side will break, it's the nature of business.

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>>72026378
There is a catch though, Riro got terminated without fulfilling all of her donothon rewards and idol refunded anyone who asked, first donothon yab. Yuko took more than a year to fulfill rewards, now the rewards """"can't"""" be fulfilled because she changed her content, she will swap them out for different rewards, second donothon yab. Idol's image is on the floor currently, that's probably the reason why Yuko was allowed to sink her career instead of being let go because a termination and a graduation in less than 4 month looks bad, and now Pochi, who also just got a new model, wants not only to graduate but also add to the donothon yabsm, naturally the corpo wants to curb this situation.

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>>72026791
Do tell me how is this asking for her head. They are saying what she is doing, not saying that there will be repercussions (from the fans) if she doesn't do her donothon goals.

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IdolEN legitimately gotta be one of the worst wave of vtubers ever. I mean geez are they all whores and scammers there??

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>>72021251
its easy when your company is literally sponsored by mossad

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>>72026791
braindead retard simp

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>>72027196
Rin-kun...
Also what did Fuyo and Juna do?

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>>72027196
If you use free money as a fishing bait, don't be surprised what you catch.

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>>72027196
More like Idol is one of the blackest companies there is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72027246
stream with their bfs

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>>72024082
>woman tries to loot and scoot
>jews stop her
what is this timeline

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>>72027094
>not saying that there will be repercussions (from the fans) if she doesn't do her donothon goals.
>already being called a scammer
Wait by repercussion you actually want a head? Maybe served on a platter?

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>>72026285
True but I aim my contempt at the con artist rather than the conned

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>>72027305
based on the shit i've read so far, the pochi whore is a scam artist and idol is preventing her from fleecing the donators from her last donothon. apparently she also did the same scam pre idol.

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>>72027196
>Literal jew company is full of whores and scammers
We warned you a year ago but you dismissed it as /pol/ nonsense.

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>>72027511
The virtual world is madness, fire is cold, ice is hot, cat and dogs are couples.

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>>72027498
Sorry, I'll tell them not to stream with me next time. We'll be selling our sex sessions as voice packs tho

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>>72027196
>One is a turbo menhera that literally stole Yahtzee's gimmick
>Another is a girl who literally tried to have a gangbang with her fans
>And another who did a donothon and then tried to run off with the money
I don't know if i'm forgetting anyone.

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>>72027534
calling scammer a scammer is not asking for her head. want to know what a true crucifixion looks like? search for mel nekomata, everytime she pops back up anons will hound her into graduation, and well deserverd too.

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>>72027706
>cat and dogs are couples.
>Korone and Okayu
Owari da...

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Making fans pay you to do cool stuff sounds kinda fucked up

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>>72027834
Riro was great and im tired of people pretending she wasnt.

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>>72028159
She really was...

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>>72027852
>calling scammer a scammer
Should have hammered the nail yourself. Also why bring up irrelevant people into the discussion?

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because it's clear you don't know what a crucifixion looks like retarded white knight

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>>72021251
What even is a donothon? I keep reading that word but I never really got it, is it like when they stream for charities? But in Holo they just call them charity streams where does the donothon word comes from?

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>pochi does a donothon
>tries to run away with the money by taking an extended break
>idol holds her money until she starts delivering the goals
>nooo idol black company
Turns out you can't outjew the jew. It was a valiant effort truly, but Idol has just proved that it isn't as easy to scam as kawaii

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>>72028286
Kek. Wrong on both fronts and that's not even my main point.

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>>72028515
>run away with money she never got
Huh

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>>72028159
People only hated her because they didn't get their turn. She was, as overused as it's been used I do mean it, based.

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>>72028456
>is it like when they stream for charities?
Yeah, it's exactly like that only the charity is the vtuber's pocket.

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>>72028567
Yup. It was entertaining to see how fishes get caught.

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>>72028456
Dono-donation (getting donations for the streamer)
Thon-endurance (non stop streaming for X days or until the goal is reached)
Same as a subathon but the goal is monetary and not noombers

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>>72028456
It's basically a marathon stream where you unlock rewards/content by reaching certain donation levels.

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>>72028703
>unlock rewards/content
Which are likely to never happen. Donothons have become a blight, causing stress for the talent and annoying the viewers.

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>>72028703
isn't that what cam girls do?

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>>72028877
yes

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>>72028877
I hate to break it to you, but vtubers are cam girls with an anime filter.

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>>72028159
I wrote the list but the sad part is that she's actually the least offensive out of everyone because at least you couldn't deny she loved her fans.

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>>72028785
>causing stress for the talent
that's the worst part, they get a sum lump and then their donations never recover because everyone is on their feet expecting to have to drop +4k at any moment

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>>72028928
>>72028928
I mean she has to love them since she want them in her harem.

[Anonymous No.]

Why do women keep going full retard and make me defend a fucking jew company

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>>72024520
>got $41000 dollars from the donothon, so all of them are available.
she has outstanding goals from her first donothon too which was what, 16k?

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>>72028703
Help me understand
Why does this read as the company trying to get their money back from debut expenses?

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>>72029259
because that's basically what it is >>72024749

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>>72021032
Idolbros, her last stream...a dark omen...

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>>72024082
>I'm not sure what the "NotStarbucks Mini Game" refers to.
One of her uncompleted donothon 1 rewards was to make a video game so I assume it's that.

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>>72029337
I am too cynical, but it worked this time.
Guess donothons during the debut buff are the only way for them to settle debut debt. Makes me wonder about the contracts.

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Can someone who watches pochi compile a list of donothon rewards she has completed versus hasn't and then post it in the thread?
Would be especially excellent if this included the first pochi donothon and even the PL donothon.
That would give a lot of insight into whether she's a victim or a scammer here.

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>>72029809
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nCac7-qvQsV2Pfpq2uvtVtO38TpxTYt7RfH2W5Jllfs/edit#gid=0
there's a page for her first and one for her second

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>>72029809
>please spoonfeed my drama-addled brain

[Anonymous No.]

What's really wild to me is that Pochi is practically following the NDF Strawman blueprint for how they present Doki's termination
>be a grifting bitch who completely shirks the duties of her expected as a streamer
>make a pre-emptive hit piece smearing the company and farming pity points with menherabaiting
>hold them hostage with public vague threats of demolishing their reputation and refusal to co-operate with them in any manner in continuing negotiations
If Doki is such a Messiah as has been so vociferously touted, Pochi is surely her Antichrist.

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>>72029976
don't forget
>releases it just as idol's last two HE members have a successful redebut (15 months in planning), bringing in new fans and potential viewers for the company

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>>72029904
while she is still trying to do an exit scam I'm willing to give her some leeway

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>>72026952
idol's still ghosting the top winner of Rin's donothon for the last 6 months, it's been well over a year and he hasn't gotten any rewards including something as simple as a latter

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>>72029809

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>>72030277
yeah you know what this sounds like an effort was made rather than a scam. best thing that can happen is idolcorp lets her quit and does voluntary refunds since some fans will think this is fine enough
i hope this becomes a cautionary tale about the risk of donothons and at least corpos don't let their talents make promises they can't keep

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>>72028159
She was and i sided with her but 3 months of OF money while stalling for debut is kinda eeh...

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>>72030277
>>72029904
Neat
So she's done a good chunk of things

[Anonymous No.]

If this hurts Kai or Roca I will be the Idolsister.

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https://twitter.com/KaiSaikota/status/1771189326182834313
>last minute meeting

[Anonymous No.]

>>72030704
>He likes Mori: Latina flavor

[Anonymous No.]

>>72029904
>All those no completed goals in every girl
damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>72030617
>OF money
what?

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>>72021032
>admits to intending to fuck off with the donothon money
>refuses to fulfill the donothon rewards
>refuses to communicate because muh anxiety
>aviel understandibly holds on to the money since she's not holding up her end of the bargain
>throws a tantrum
>expects sympathy from people
why do people defend her in this exactly? can someone explain? lol

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>>72030562
Not really, most of the green boxes are quick activities that were completed during the donothon streams themselves.
The first donothon happened in March 2023 but a year later she still hasn't managed to record an orisong or even make a shimeji.
Also some of the completed goals like the jump king 'endurance stream' were unbelievably lazy.

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>>72024518
Hey Nyanners, WHERE'S THE SKEEEEEEEEEEEEB!!!!!!!!!!!!

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>>72031158
he probably means Patreon, otherwise some proof would be posted somewhere.

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>>72031210
yeah but a lot of what's left is also pointless if she's going to graduate anyway, before or after completing it makes no difference
like buying a new console for future streams etc, as well the GFE stuff
i do agree she deserves to be shit on and act as a cautionary tale but let her have the money and let her go

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>>72031158
>>72031306
Yeah, i meant patreon, mb

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>>72031204
fans are defending her, it's the fans money, fans' money was meant to reach pochi. realistically idol corp won't hold the money, it either goes to pochi or it gets refunded, source being riro's donothon.

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>>72031607
the money was given in exchange for rewards. if there are no rewards, there should be refunds, otherwise it's a scam. you don't speak for every fan. nobody does. if i was a fan i certainly wouldn't want my oshi to fucking take my money and then just fuck off without even saying good bye lol

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>>72032109
yeah so open a form for people to voluntarily apply for refunds (with proof)

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>>72030277
>A lot of remaining things need a fuckton of money.
>talent did not receive money from jewcorp
>no money, talent cannot do goals
>cannot do goals, get branded as scammer
Yeah, real smart faggots. How does the jew shoe taste like?

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>>72031607
Funny because Riro got the money and it also got refunded

[Anonymous No.]

>>72032699
Of course the manager's pet get all the benefits.

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>>72032699
maybe part of the reason why aviel see the intent to graduate near a donothon as no go to let go of the funds

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>>72032619
if she wasn't so menhera she'd have waited until they release the funds instead of putting in her graduation request only a few weeks after finishing her donothon

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>>72031607
Then get a refund and find her next account and spend your money there.

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>>72032619
>Finish donothon
>Request to leave soon after
>Evil corpo didn't give her the money! She was surely going to stay until she finished all the rewards before fucking off!

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>>72032699
Riro was a management fuckup. there is a reason she never said much after the termination.

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>>72021032
Why is she calling it starbucks?

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>>72033296
Might be a cheeky reference to the Starbucks-Israel-Hamas clusterfuck that got some traction recently.

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>>72024082
>>72024518
These small corpo girls are having donothons to make a sizeable payday then graduate without doing shit

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>>72032619
I'm a tourist, but aside from lacking the foresight to predict this particular brand of stupid, I don't see what the company did wrong. You're suggesting they should just hand over the money so she can vanish with it, and eat the PR hit of 40k in donations amounting to nothing?

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>>72032905
>>72033131
>>72033762
>>72033843
Holy shit. Already halfway from bump limit and you faggots still could not piece together shit from all these crumbs. Some already have a feel for it. Let me give you something to rrat about. FORCED

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>>72025543
>someone spoonfeed me on why there's so much defense and bootlicking for an israel backed company
because it's an israel backed company there's an inherent level of astroturfing and shilling from israeli bots.

[Anonymous No.]

Streams are getting cancelled and postponed. Expect a termination notice soon.

[Anonymous No.]

didn't know pochi's fans were into findom, but here we are

[Anonymous No.]

>>72030277
talked to one of her whales say he was a riro whale and will also refund the donothon money as soon as he can

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>>72025543
If you think this is bad, look at V&U. There, it is obvious they are paying for social media marketing - given how much they spend on ads, it's not a bad idea either. Here it's mostly fans of other girls and Aviel trying to position himself as a saviour of the vtuber industry. On that note: Where is the contract, Aviel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72029639
>i can’t fulfill the goals of my first donathon because i didn’t get the money from my second donathon, pls understand

[Anonymous No.]

what did she delete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72030277
From this list gachapon online is the only thing that she can do herself. No idea what shimeji is, some kind of mushroom?

[Anonymous No.]

https://files.catbox.moe/3q0eep.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/po5k8b.jpg
https://files.catbox.moe/9wtp51.jpg

[Anonymous No.]

>>72030617
Don’t care for Riro, but that’s not necessarily her fault. Designing + rigging a model can take a looooong time
t. oshi had to wait a year before her model was ready

[Anonymous No.]

>>72024082
>donathon scam
>flees
These are becoming so common I would worry every time you see them

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021032
the jewcorp being jew,shocked

[Anonymous No.]

>>72034913
this is the most entitled white woman i've ever seen in my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035130
Complaining about a retroactive policy change is entitled? Where you dropped frequently as a child?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035310
pochi... why didn't you read the new contract before signing it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72024520
Cute Rana

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035310
Why is she complaining about a policy change that benefits the fans? She could've just completed her donothon goals instead of spending months begging to be paid for not doing work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021251
Those are good changes, Pochi really is on thin ice here

[Anonymous No.]

>>72034356
this donothon was literally billed as her moving expenses which her Google Doc says she did in fact do

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035477
>benefits the fans
Weird way to spell
>let jewcorp hoard the money

[Anonymous No.]

So... we can change the name of Idol to Grifters, right??? Riro, Yuko and now Pochi

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021375
>phase is good
lol,lmao even

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035477
The donathon was for a something with defined timing (moving to another country). If she didn't get the funds around the move, then the whole idea made little sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035625
>as agreed

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035880
But she moved anyway without the funds, so that's clearly not true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035844
Half the talents are as black as kurosanji, so they all keep each other in check. Works out surprisingly functional in the end.

[Anonymous No.]

Just remember, before she joined Idol she also did a donothon and scammed her fans only to graduate without fulfilling the rewards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035310
saying shit like I'M PREFECTLY WITHIN MY RIGHT TO RUN OFF WITH MY DONOTHON MONEY and OF COURSE I SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO TAKE AS MANY BREAKS AS I WANT WITH NO REPERCUSSIONS is so tone deaf it's not even funny. literally doesn't give a fuck about her fans and they still support her. i should laugh at how retarded simps are but i just feel frustrated for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035933
she had announced she was moving before the donothon even happened

[Anonymous No.]

Pochi absolutely SUCKS at PR, holy shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72024518
>chuba: "I will do X if I get Y amount of money
>fans: "ok, here's Y amount of money"
>chuba: "I'm sorry but I will not do X"
It's a scam

[Anonymous No.]

Never trust a Quebecer

[Anonymous No.]

>>72027834
>One is a turbo menhera that literally stole Yahtzee's gimmick
Which one is this referring to? And who/what is Yahtzee? The board game? What gimmick are you talking about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021032
Someone in that thread just outed themselves as a former idol staff and didn't have a good experience with the corpo.Take with salt until corroborated
https://twitter.com/arlostesama/status/1771083658251608205

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035832
Yeah, I kind of wanna shit on idol but there are good girls in it too

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035933
She moved with the belief and trust that she would be receiving the funds as her financial situation depended on that. The retroactive change in how funds were handled effectively pulled the rug out from underneath her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036758
They offered her funds to complete her donothon goals. She refused to even attempt to complete them because she wanted all of the funds to pay her rent instead of giving back to her fans. I hate Jews more than you can ever imagine but Idolcorp is 100% in the right here. Never try to outJew a Jew, you'll lose every time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036758
oh no! anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035832
Yuko and Pochi are the grifters
Riro overdelivered when she organized meet'n'fucks with her fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036738
Zoey!?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036758
Didn't she say that the funds were for furniture and shit, and that she could afford the move and all that jazz. I don't pay much attention to pochi but I thought that was what she was saying around that time

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035832
>Riro
Was setting up secret sugar daddy meetings, actually met with a fan.

>Pochi
Constantly on hiatus, demanded and was given a total redesign after less then a year, did a second Donothon before finishing her first, always has an excuse for why she can't stream.

>Yuko
Went way to deep into GFE, realized she was too deep had a break down and touched grass, came back apologized to her fans for being shit and took it on the chin, actually streams.

See the difference is that Riro never apologized because she doesn't think she did anything wrong and Stardust sort of agrees, Yuko was just dumb but at least she apologized and broke up with her fans even if it pissed them off they have the closure.

Pochi is just kind of awful. She never streams, she changes her style up constantly, ghosts her fans then gets mad at her fans and ghosts them again.

I want to like Pochi she has a sweet soft voice and her ASMR was nice. But she makes it hard.

[Anonymous No.]

In the end it doesn’t matter who was in the right and who was wrong. What does matter is that idol has once again proven how incompetent they are with handling talents. Who will be the inevitable fourth disaster?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036899
>babiniku
nevermind

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036866
>They offered her funds to complete her donothon goals.
My source is I made it the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036866
>jewcorp her funds
anon,dyrbi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036757
It looks like several of the girls keep their PLs as "hot spares" in case something goes down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036738
this is the guy who was fucking riro and using idol as his personal whorehouse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035310
>where
I hate that I share an atmosphere with retards like you
https://youtu.be/4Z2Z23SAFVA

[Anonymous No.]

>hey boss I'm going to move and I need to move, can I do another donothon to raise a lot of money?
>sure, go ahead. it will be a nice way to promote your brand new model we spent so much on too
>oops head hort so I want to graduate, muh bad
>oh too bad, graduating means you won't be able to complete a bunch of the donothon goals so we can't give you the money then. that's what we meant by "idol will cover all donothon expenses" by the way
>WAIT NO PLEASE NO BLACK COMPANY AAAAAAAAARGH TWITTER PLEASE SAVE ME

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036738
interesting
of course they could be real and just have an axe to grind rather than it being a fair assessment of the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>72037292
no, that was tomer, their lead talent manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021032
I don't get what she's trying to do, she keeps saying she was going to bail/"Take a leave of absence" right after the donothon

[Anonymous No.]

>>72037586
She's an entitled white woman who doesn't realize she's telling on herself. Because in her mind she's entitled to that money without anyone questioning it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72037586
in her mind, they're two separate topics. donothon was done so she deserves the money but also she's quitting.
from idol's perspective, if she wants to leave now she can't fulfill the donothon goals which means she shouldn't get the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72037586
She wrote that she intended to leave after fulfilling donathon goals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72037821
>from idol's perspective, if she wants to leave now she can't fulfill the donothon goals which means she shouldn't get the money.
especially since they will have to cover the refunds out of pocket if she runs off. this change likely came after they had to refund riro's donothon out of pocket because they had already given riro the money before she was terminated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72024944
Do you understand the difference between throwing money at a streamer and buying merch? Do you understand how people would be upset if they tried to buy merch but did not recieve the merch? Incentivized 'donothons' are like merch except the thing you buy is stream content. Viewers explicitly paid X dollars in return for Y goal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021032
Black corp

[Anonymous No.]

Phasefags are disgusting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038305
Do you?
>like merch but not quite
Do you always expect something in return when you donate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038492
It's literally the whole point of a donothon

[Anonymous No.]

>>72027834
Yahtzee?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036738
well jews being jews

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038492
The current problem with 'donothons' is that a culture has been built around them where theft is okay (it isnt, raffles and auctions have been brought to court for far less than the average vtuber donothon). Your 'moral' defense of failing to deliver donothon goals is unironically "well everyone else also gets stolen from".

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038837
the should add a disclaimer like scamstarter that goals may be left unfulfilled and it's not their problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038590
Would you be angry to your oshi if she cannot perform those goals when the company removes her capability to do so?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021032
Why does everybody idol work at Starbucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038937
Sounds like gambling, you gotta pay taxes for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038492
This entire business is based upon "donations".
Despite its misleading name, in this context it's very commercial, very transactional, and people employ various psychological/emotional tactics to maximize the donos.
Yes people do expect and were promised something in return.

[Anonymous No.]

Does Pochi even still have any fans?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039064
don't worry, once the False and Legal Mindset videos are out she'll have new fans

[Anonymous No.]

Just do the donothon goals before you decide to fuck off and abandon your fans for greener pastures.

[Anonymous No.]

Pochi was always a shit streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039064
No, most got fed up with her a while back when she briefly reemerged on twitter after months of radio silence, then had a tantrum when her fans said they were annoyed by her stringing them along.

[Anonymous No.]

it's so funny to see idolkeks trying to turn this against pochi. she cant scam anybody if she never got paid in the first place. pay your fucking talents what they are owed. i guess all the shilling about talents get 100% of the pay and company pay for 100% of the goals are just another one of those blatant jewish lies. only retards with less than half a working braincell would believe the jew and his lies. he's already rugpulling and in case you haven't been able to read between the lines, the reason they didn't pay pochi immediately is because they had no money and the donothon was done with partially fake donos to look appeasing to brave so they decided to invest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039254
ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039254
She got paid, every month in fact, until she did a donothon with the explicit intent of taking the money and graduating without completing her bigger goals but the jews caught up to her scheme and told her to work for that money.
>ah but she said she wasn't going to run!
She literally said that she issued a graduation leave right after finishing the donothon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039030
>very transactional
Then it should be treated as transaction. Who is accountable? When does the money change hands? Where did the transaction stopped?
This would clear some things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72034884
It's a Desktop mascot, you install it and a small anime character appears on your screen. It walks around, grabs onto program windows, you can pick it up with your mouse, etc.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039254
>she cant scam anybody if she never got paid
>murder attempts never happened because nobody died

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039198
her feet pics are top tier tho

[Anonymous No.]

Pochi should start an onlyfans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040362
But who is the scammer?
>the employee who is "tasked" to sing and dance and promise to give everyome a good time
>the owner who collected the money

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040408
>even notRiifu shlicked to them
I guess there's still one corp that might trust her after all these donothon scams huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>72039254
Phasekek?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040563
Hi Pochi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040593
>>72040655
Go on. List some more boogeyman. Understandable since arguments are not your forte.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040563
The employee who wants to get paid without working and makes empty promises right before leaving her job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72029259
It's also an advertising / growth push. These things have been proven on twitch to work as event streams, and a company like Idol will make use of the full day streaming to run ads throughout to try and expand the audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040737
Don’t care. She wants to do a donothon with set goals and not complete them? Then get fucked. Don’t set goals for your donothon if your master plan is to graduate immediately. It’s that simple. Pochi is a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040761
>not in the choices
>conveniently forgets the choice that holds the moneybag
Simply amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040737
Looks like I hit a spot. How is plappa doing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040864
But where is the money boot licker?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040587
She has to have done NSFW content at some point to even be considered and not be under a non-compete clause.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040916
She's doing someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040934
It's right there. All she has to do is work if she wants it.
Wild, right? An employed streamer is expected to stream if she wants to be paid? How can this be?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040563
The employee, the donothon money will be refunded just like Riro's after Pochi gets graduated/terminated after not completing the goals and running.
>>72040934
Its currently with Idol if Pochi decides to run it will be refunded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040877
Go complete your fucking goals, mutt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040934
Not with pochi LOL. It’s either with the company or being charged back by the fans who got betrayed by their grifting oshi. Why would you even ask that? What answer did you think you were going to get? Was this supposed to be a gotcha? Do tell.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041038
>financial hardship
>it's right there
And other lies jewfags tell themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>go on an extended leave of absence
>tell your company to keep paying you
>demand they do not contact you until you want to contact the
What the fuck lmao? are you even allowed to do this at a company?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041195
>the money is not with pochi
>pochi could not run with the money
It's that simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041363
You're allowed to do whatever the company lets you get away with
Most companies would fire you on the spot for that

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041363
I have to conclude most of these guys who scream black company and leap to the defense of every menhera going are literal children.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041220
So much financial hardship that she can still stream on her PL huh?
In fact, financial hardship that was caused entirely on her own because she chose to move without having the money, huh?
The entire case is simple: she had a 41k donothon and tried to graduate, which would make a number of her goals impossible to finish, so she didn't get the money. All she has to do if she wants that money is, well, fucking stream and put some effort into the goals she can complete on her own. All the expenses for the goals have already been covered by Idol, as they said previously and reiterated in yesterday's blogpost. So everything is up to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021032
>>72021251
Pochi really fucked up severing all ties with idol for what seems to me no reason other than having work responsibilities. Menheras gonna menhera I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036546
>>72038595
Zoomer anons...
Video Game reviewer that became popular in the late 00s and 10s. He's also responsible for the "PC Master Race" meme
Rin's shorts style is almost identical to Yahtzee's and she got away with it because zoomies don't know who he is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041389
Yup. Glad she was stopped from completely scamming her fans. Hope Idol manages to refund. But it is a Jew Corp so….

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038937
They could do that but that would disincentivize donations. Worse than that though is holding a donothon and not fulfilling the goals because she's not an indie, she's corpo and running with the money reflects bad on the entire company, including her genmates.

The corpo is looking out for itself by not allowing the talent to pump and dump her own fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041547
People turn into NEETS in mindset when it comes to defending crazy pussy on here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041587
Girl isn’t cut out for work. She needs to be a housewife/bangmaid. That one paypig would happy to take her I bet.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041747
They refunded Riro's money for anyone who asked, so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041558
If the money is not enough to keep you in a company, then there are far worse problems going on behind the veil of credit cards and quarterly budgets.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040563
>the employee who is "tasked" to sing and dance
Correction: the employee who offered to do tasks in exchange for donation money reaching a certain cumulative amount.
The promised amount was reached. Now it's on the employee to do the tasks she promised to do in exchange for meeting the goals.
If you don't want the money to get held back, then do a donothon without any goals or promises of content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72041948
>>72040877

[Anonymous No.]

>>72042105
>d-doesn't count you didn't pick one of my choices! I tried very hard to omit as much information as I could so please respect me!
Please grow up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72042196
Says the one who screeches because of a broken promise

[Anonymous No.]

>>72034913
Seeing as how she quit, they were right that she wasn't going to fulfill the goals and are now forced to issue refunds, this is a big L for the company.

The policy change regarding them covering donothon expenses seems like a direct result of this situation. If pochi had actually tried to bargain instead of attempting to graduate, she would have left after finishing her commitments without the drama she herself has caused.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72030976
You've never watched her

[Anonymous No.]

I bet the hiatus request was some dumb shit like a 6 month sabbatical

[Anonymous No.]

>>72042293
A promise people paid 41k dollars for isn't a promise, it's a contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72021162

Kai and Juna might leave next

https://streamable.com/h1l6s1

[Anonymous No.]

>>72042906
>41k dollars that went to the owner's purse
Then enforce that contract with the owner, clearly you own him now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043014
Guess that confirms that a whole lot more mess is happening behind the scenes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036758
Her deciding to graduate immediately after doing a donothon and getting a redebut pulled the rug out from underneath Idol. You don't get to fuck over someone like that and expect them to hand over tens of thousands of dollars, while you're already actively not doing the work the money was donated for in the first place. No corpo is going to let that shit fly, especially after there's been multiple other examples of girls trying to run away with the bag and fuck over the corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036000
This is honestly the most damning thing. Why should anyone trust her to not try to scoot and loot when she literally has done exactly that already?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043097
Try reading the google doc again. The money from donothons gets sent to talents on the following monthly paycheck.
And also try connecting the dots. The reason why they aren't issuing refunds is because Pochi technically is supposed to be working on the goals. If she gets removed from the corp, they'll give the money back. If they do it before so, she will get less money than she planned, which will fuck her over all the same (she specifically brought this up in the doc).
Basically, if she works she gets the money. It's that simple. If she's literally dying and can't stream, that means she can't stream on her PL either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72037080
They literally announced it for everyone to see yesterday.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043295
>>72043322
Seems like a management issue. Letting shit fly and neglecting past actions. But they just had to milk her one last time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043372
>The money from donothons gets sent to talents on the following monthly paycheck.
she's retarded for asking to graduate the same month she would have gotten paid

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043281
Idol's management have always been incompetent

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043443
She literally asked for the moving donothon herself. In fact it was announced out of nowhere, and Roca had to push hers forward because of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72036976
We're running out of menhera girls at this point, at the rate things are going all we'll be left with are the mostly sane, decent girls.

[Anonymous No.]

QRD???

[Anonymous No.]

Her new model was pretty shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043281
literally everyone has known for a year that idol management can't send a package to save their life

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043519
I completely forgot that the Roca part

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043568
See
>>72037381

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043568
Grifter tries to outjew the jews by graduating right after finishing a donothon. They catch on to her plan and deny her the money. She cries about it on twitter because Doki started a trend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043519
>Roca had to push hers forward because of it
so she fucked roca with her donothon and fucked katta and nkki with her redebut? no surprise there doesn't seem to be much sympathy for her from the other talents and they keep tweeting about how happy they are currently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043372
And yet they didn't because suddenly policy changed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043607
You know what other corpo had trouble handling simple tasks like shipping packages to talents?

Tsunderia. Guess what happened to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043594
Fucking waste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043750
>well fuck a terminated talent just made us lose 15k because she got her donothon money and left without completing half of her goals, let's fix that in the contract
>there, you only get your donothon money if you can feasibly complete the goals
And then she was shocked when she found out she couldn't exit scam anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043568
>bootlickers forgetting who holds the money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040587
>even notRiifu shlicked to them
sauce? just hearing her say that would probably make me nut. that's fucking hot

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043014
Juna should do another asmr stream

[Anonymous No.]

>I wouldn't have done the donothon if I knew they would have held the money to make sure I fulfilled it!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044207
Look for the stream where she was announcing VAllure, the vod is gone by now but I'm sure there's an archive somewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044359
Roca's donothon happened after Pochi's and she seems happy with the money she got though

[Anonymous No.]

wtf is rin penrose doing in this company, I swear of sshe leaves them I would mute this company's name out of my feed in an instant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043443
Do you not think women have any personal agency at all?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044000
Well let's look at the timeline shall we?
>riro ron terminated: nov 2023
>sent the work leave notice: start of jan
>...
>should be getting paid: feb 2
>suddenly informed of policy change
Weird, it looks like a well timed policy change. She was not informed of this after submitting work leave notice? A malicious air surrounds this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044027
The company that has a record of refunding viewers for unfulfilled donation goals after a talent exits the company?
Or is that inconvenient to acknowledge for 15 year old reddit communists like yourself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044027
you don't know what that term means, presumably because you're a child

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044623
>record of refunding viewers
>already saying they are scammed
Make up your mind jewfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044823
what the fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044693
Do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044545
Don't forget:
>moving donothon: dec 2023
>massive PL drama: late dec 2023
>PL drama is over: jan 2023
>comes back from the break after donothon: late jan 2023

[Anonymous No.]

how long till that grifter lawyer talks about this

[Anonymous No.]

>>72035130
Yes, there's a reason everyone hates white women except fucking them

[Anonymous No.]

>>72045181
i'm sure pochi is sending him her contract hoping to be the next doki right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044545
Honestly I would not be surprised if the cause of a lot of the PL activity late last year was due to management requiring contract amendments (policy changes) and that she signed off on them without reading/understanding that she wouldn't be able to grab the bag and split, leaving them responsible for refunds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72045243
If so Pochi must be extra retarded, she's just gonna be on a permanent shit list

[Anonymous No.]

>>72044383
do you remember around when it happened to help with my archive search?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72045659
December maybe? I can't remember, but that's when the VAllure twitter was made and I recall her doing a stream revealing the project a bit before it
There was a huge thread on /vt/ too back then but I can't remember any keyword to search for

[Anonymous No.]

>>72038956
here is the difference anon, my oshi has never taken a break longer than a week, streams at least 4 months before going on vacation, streams at least 4 times a week, her average is 5 and regularly streams 6 times a week, has done a few dono driven streams and has delivered on all of her goals, in time too, her corpo has zero reasons to distrust her or obstruct her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72045215
i mean they're still better than blacks and asians, but yeah

[Anonymous No.]

>>72026210
Do those drawing streams from Mumei/Mori and that NPC Kronii count as donothons?

[Anonymous No.]

>>72040934
Idol Corp has it, if Pochi does her part she gets paid, if she gets fired they'll issue refunds.
I got my refund for the Yuko merch on january, and they even opened the refund tickets again after she announced her change in content and a friend got his refund, so there is good track record that all of the "Someone embezzled the money/They are out of money to pay her" is just mental gymnastics with no proof.

[Anonymous No.]

Maybe the problem isn't Idol, the problem are the Vtuber with loli model, always go for hags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72047509
Or hags with loli models if you must.
What's important is that hags are a lot more trustworthy than retarded young women.

[Anonymous No.]

>>72043097
>>72043372
They saying that she is still working on tasks is because she isn't fired yet, and even when she gets fired leaking that she is not working with them anymore through costumer support would be retarded. Until there is no termination notice they won't leak it by mistake

[Anonymous No.]

>>72031607
Prove to me that those “fans” donated during the donothon and they’re not greys or ARS supachatters. Show receipts I’m waiting