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Zelicons rise up edition

Welcome to V&U + Korean VTubers General, a thread for discussion of Virtual & Universe, as well as other Korean VTubers.

>V&U Schedules: https://teamup.com/ksbnh5iat3f61m4dvm
>V&U Website: https://vnuentertain.com/
>V&U Official Twitter: https://twitter.com/VNUofficial
>V&U Official Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@VNUEntertain

Symphoria original song "Crown US":
[YouTube] 【Crown US - Symphoria 】 The 1st MV (embed)

Solstice original song "Wild Things":
[YouTube] 【Wild Things - Solstice】 The 2nd MV (embed)

Song covers playlist:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsoE19kSl1Afbxt94_kVMfERqUe4V31iV

>What does V&U stand for?
V&U stands for "Virtual and Universe." It also means "VTuber and You." V&U is an agency that operates in South Korea, but their talents are encouraged to speak English. They are not limited to speaking Korean and Japanese.
>Members and links
https://pastebin.com/qt2RxQxu (embed)

>Info about Korean Vtubers, English-speaking KR Vtubers, Korean language learning materials Edit Code: kr: https://rentry.org/kr_general

>Twitch Korean VTuber Tag Search:
>https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/브이튜버 (embed)
>https://www.twitch.tv/directory/all/tags/버튜버 (embed)

>Afreeca VTuber Tag Search:
>https://www.afreecatv.com/?hash=hashtag&tagname=버튜버
>https://www.afreecatv.com/?hash=hashtag&tagname=버츄얼

>V&U Fanfics, Fan websites, and other fun stuff:
https://pastebin.com/Uc1KjwW8 (embed)

▼ V&U + KR General Friends
Production Kawaii >>>/vt//pkg/
Prism >>>/vt//ppg
Phase Connect >>>/vt//pcg/
Tsunderia >>>/vt//tsunx/
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VReverie Extended >>>/vt//vrex/

Previous thread >>71793818

>> No.71929909
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i'm rising

>> No.71929965
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I love Mivi!

>> No.71930001

We need to get Zeli a 3Dio

>> No.71930351

we /uoh/ now

>> No.71930416

Xander, Endo and Jun will save VNU from FagEyeD

>> No.71930868
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sex bunny

>> No.71930942

love that bunny

>> No.71931300

Being tomomi’s personal munch

>> No.71932128
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i want tomomi to harvest my brain with a hammer

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https://twitter.com/VNUofficial/status/1770661611772187044

>> No.71932230

https://twitter.com/VNUofficial/status/1770661611772187044

>> No.71932528

It's so amoriover

>> No.71932534

>>71932206
>>71932230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JcM45gaFs

>> No.71932717

nothing of value was lost

>> No.71932952

its so fucking over

>> No.71933229
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Every agency I actually watch is gonna crash and burn huh

>> No.71933276

>>71932206
some salty bitches there, i wonder if one of them is femanon from last time

>> No.71933404

>>71932206
black company exposed

>> No.71933492

>>71933276
Trust me Anon, these people only see one side of it and then stay there. Majority of them being indie who like to shit on any drama when possible

>> No.71933733

>>71932206
In order for V&U to take legal actions against Serafi, do they need a US office?

>> No.71933740

i was joking about SEA hrs but those replies...

>> No.71933800

>>71932206
It's interesting because 1. No termination or graduation. It says she stepped away from the contract. 2.They taking action due to the recent events that are damaging the current talents on board. So there was a chance they would've let her walk away scotch free if she kept silent. Very interesting notification they wrote there

>> No.71933810

>>71933733
no

>> No.71934002

>>71932206
So wouldn't this mean serafis statement of "graduating" was of her own choice then. If i recall correctly she had worded it in a way that made it seem like it was a sudden company decision. If she had refused to communicate and cut ties with V&U, isn't it her fault she hasn't gotten paid then?? Hell she walked out on the company before even coming to a solution?? WHY

>> No.71934027

Serafi conveniently giving dramafags the news right when the new gen drops and overlapping her redebut with the new girls while saying not to harass them... I smell bullshit.

>> No.71934149

>>71933740
SEA here, and I agree those fags in the replies are horrible. Some of them are indie that are just there for clout

>> No.71934165
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I hate grifter jewish lawyers and annoying ass dramafags even more now

>> No.71934291

>>71934002
She said as much in her stream, she told them she wanted to leave and during the exit negotiation process she ghosted them at the behest of her lawyer she then complained later in the stream about not getting to do a graduation stream

>> No.71934356

>>71934002
it was always her choice, she even reiterated that shit during her last stream, "i left because they didnt help me grow"
bitch thinks she can barely stream and still get numbers

>> No.71934403

>>71934356
>"they didn't help me grow"
>leaves as they're running an ad campaign to promote Amoria and her one year anniversary

>> No.71934432

>>71934291
she complained about why misma got an hiatus announcement, when she also got one

>> No.71934502

>>71934403
amoria has 50% more videos than her, serafi cancelled streams regularly but for some fucking reason getting numbers is not her fault at all

>> No.71934569

VnU about to get a new house in the US, maybe the girls can do an offcollab there, it has a pool too

>> No.71934587

>>71934356
It sounded like all of her gripes come from that old management period which we all know was retarded, and we also know that some of them no longer even work at V&U.

>> No.71934654

>>71934502
>141 public streams over 12 months
I can't count members that but averages to 11.75 public streams a month

>> No.71934750

>>71934569
isn't the pool infested with frogs or something

>> No.71934774

>>71933800
the notice also makes it sound as if they were open to working with serafi again if she changed her mind. they also confirmed that she ghosted them and stopped communicating until she did the stream.
honestly? i see their statement as a pr win.

>> No.71934857

>>71934587
management changed around the time gen3 debuted, also you can check her new year stream, she talks about almost graduating last year and she mentions her manager as one of the reasons to stay because he's looking for ways to help her grow
newfags can get fooled but i've watched serafi since she debuted, her story is bullshit

>> No.71934960

I'm just a tourist that likes Amoria's reaction pics so all I can say is. Never trust someone that likes tributes.

>> No.71935040

>>71932206
KEK SERAFI THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO CROSS THE PACIFIC TO COME SUE YOUR TRAILER TRASH ASS YOU'RE SO FUCKED YOU DUMB BITCH

>> No.71935086
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>>71933800
She seriously signed a contract and walked when it didn't suit her interest anymore... I wouldn't be surprised if her dumbass didn't even bother reading the damned thing. That 500k charge was probably written in there to begin with.

>> No.71935111

>>71934960
I don't trust her because she's the one(1) person who somehow managed to isolate herself in a corpo of nearly 20 other girls who otherwise fostered a miracle atmosphere where they all like each other and get along.

>> No.71935141

Hello, tourist here. QRD on Serafi?

>> No.71935208

>>71935141
she thought thats shes selen and her situation was like selens(its not)

>> No.71935225

>>71935141
talented streamer (when she decides to stream)
absolute menhera

>> No.71935242

>>71935111
Even then I remember watching Amoria streams where amoria said they were friends and would joke around alot in private and played off each other well, Serafi saying this like a slap in the face honestly man or i'm being lied to begin with.

>> No.71935271

>>71935086
>I wouldn't be surprised if her dumbass didn't even bother reading the damned thing
She did in fact say in her own words that she didn't read it lol

>> No.71935291

>>71935141
RIP

>> No.71935312

Really don't know what to think, to be honest. VNU written a way better notice than what Niji wrote for Selen at least.

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Sorry that happened, V&Ubros.
t. /pcg/

>> No.71935377

>>71935242
they got along fine but something happened during the last part of last year

>> No.71935444

>>71934774
Ngl their PR is clean and you're right they were willingly to work their way to have her back

>> No.71935449
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Suri's spicy art looking tasty in the meanwhile

>> No.71935461

its so fucking funny how they need to go to /corpo/ now

>> No.71935489

>>71935366
There is a new gen that debuted this week. I feel terrible for them, they didn't need this at all.

>> No.71935520

>>71935312
Nothing will ever top the shitshow that was their Zaion notice.

>> No.71935560

>>71935312
A discordfag said something about acknowledging a departure would hurt any legal case, looks like they have actual lawyers there

>> No.71935611

>>71935111
im relatively new here and its something that i never understood. was there a genuine bad blood between serafi and other girls? i watched the recent stream for context and she made it sound as if the company isolated her from certain things for her own good or some shit

>> No.71935622

>>71935111
I guess. I got raided into some of your girls streams some times and at least for me it's pretty much imposible for any good person to have problems with Amoria and Kokone. No idea about the other girls though

>> No.71935651

>>71935312
Support your girl. Very simple. A corpo can improve or die, but your girl is irreplaceable, unless you are a flithy casual viewer.

>> No.71935763

>>71935086
the 500k was from the itemized list the Thai Sex Tourist Lawyer showed on his stream as expenses since her debut. despite the lawyer talking about how they tried to "extort" that much from her, they haven't actually shown anything about the wording of the early termination clause in the contract or the negotiation that took place before she cut communication.

>> No.71935881

>>71935611
we can only judge by public interactions, everything was fine until november, she even was part of a trip with kokone, meeta, echo and cyon but after that trip something changed

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>>71929725
>another kurocorpo exposed
>locals defend this
I pray for your corpo downfall and mass graduation.

>> No.71935927

>>71935611
>>71935622
I don't know if it was as severe as something that could be described as "bad blood" but something was definitely off. Serafi in general also constantly displayed behavior where it was obvious that she was often her own worst enemy.

>> No.71935947

>>71935921
>phasetard forgetting how they tried to shove Pippa into her own containment box
Fuck off tourist.

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>>71935921
Anon people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones....

>> No.71936197

>>71935040
>COME SUE YOUR TRAILER TRASH ASS
As someone who worked in farm.equipment sales, all I will say to them is don't bother. The lawyers will be the only ones making any money, and none of it comes from the trailer folks.

>> No.71936251

i find it very curious how someone can read the vnu statement and conclude that its another kurocorpo. in my eyes they tried to negotiate in good faith and in this case serafi was a bad faith actor. hell, its fucking insulting to compare her situation to selen/doki and blatantly making light of what nijisanji has done.

>> No.71936288

>>71936197
one thing she said was "declare bankruptcy"
she has a house tho

>> No.71936316

>>71936288
In her mother's name, not hers, allegedly.

>> No.71936323

>>71936251
THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING
She's slandering and ruining any possible legitimate claims in the future.

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>>71935947
>>71936169
>this is best rebuttal gooks can provide
grim

>> No.71936371

>>71936353
>no argument
I accept your concession.

>> No.71936391

>>71936316
i thought it was on her name, something her grandma/grandpa left her

>> No.71936442

>>71935141
Behind the scenes:
>Talent wanted to leave company because she doesn't feel supported enough
>Company decides to withhold owed pay, and refuses to let her graduate unless they're made happy
>Company tells her she has to pay about US$450,000, which is probably the full annual income of 8-16 of their individual talents combined.
>Obviously talent finds this ridiculous, shows lawyer who laughs upon seeing the illegal stuff in her contract
>She just ignores the company and starts streaming under a new persona

Publicly:
>While all the above was going on, the whole time the company just tells the public she's been taken a health break, intentionally hiding the fact the talent is no longer with the company
>LegalMindset and False do an expose basically showing the half-million dollar "bill" they sent the talent and how the company was intentionally misleading the public about the status of their AWOL talent
>Company finally decides to announce her termination, obviously blames the talent

>> No.71936470

>>71936251
Because people don't think critically. I think it's a lot healthier that people lean towards trusting the individual over their company, but there was no way in hell talking to that legal yt grifter dude and walking out on negotiations was a wise idea.

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>>71932206
> However, as recent events have been damaging to the other talents [...], we are obliged to make no choice but take legal action
Please, please, please, for the sake of your streamers, read what you have writen her, spend 5 minutes on the internet (where you make your money) and consider what this legal action will actually do to the other talents.

Pretty please, with sugar on top.

>> No.71936528

>>71936442
>newfag trying to make a qrd
perfect example why abortions should be legal everywhere

>> No.71936576

>>71936501
yes you said the same on twitter now go an kys

>> No.71936611

>>71936442
nobody announced a termination = you lied = whole post bullshit, but nice try

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>> No.71936666

>>71936576
I'll get right on that. Also, remember this post when Liora starts doomspiraling because assholes won't shut up about it during future streams.

>> No.71936668

>>71936621
Me (ojisan) on the left
Mivi, don't watch

>> No.71936687

>>71936371
There is a difference between rrats deduced from vague posting and someone trying to maliciously financially ruin a person. Gook, your morale compass reps...

>> No.71936688

>>71936621
ToT

>> No.71936693

Me and my 100 fridges will be against vnu if they try anything against the late angel Serafi. That’s all I’m saying

>> No.71936697

>>71936251
Clearly because every corp is evil and satanic and bad so anything they say is a lie.

>> No.71936706

>>71936611
Look up the term "constructive dismissal"

>She wasn't fired! We just withheld her pay. She totally quit on her own. It's not our fault she didn't want to work without pay!

>> No.71936707

>>71935312
To be fair that's a pretty low bar: posting a detailed 3-page bullet point list of disputes on Twitter is really not a great look by any common sense measure.

>> No.71936727

>>71936668
i will tell mivi and she wont care for you once you turn senile hehe

>> No.71936731

>>71936666
Liora was going to doomspiral no matter what, super satan.

>> No.71936770

>>71936666
less talky more worky sister, go for the rope

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>>71936442
this nigga glows

>> No.71936802

>>71936706
t.bitch who doesnt know how the girls get paid

>> No.71936818

>>71936706
brother shes a contractor, they could pay her anytime as specified in the contract.
Youtube takes a month to pay you out anyway

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>>71936442
kys tourist

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>>71936727
Do not.

>> No.71936877

>>71936793
>Company refuses to pay out $4000 to employee
>Company expect employee to pay them $400000
It'd be hard to take the company's side even if they were entirely above board and the employee was scum. This is on tier with those old MPAA lawsuits where record labels would sue single moms for 1-5 million dollars.

>> No.71936883

almost 1pm in jakarta

>> No.71936885

>>71936706
Leave the arguments to your lawyer, Serafi.

>> No.71936918

>>71936877
"i found about this 5 minutes ago"

>> No.71936922

>>71936877
i don't have my sunglasses, can't read all of that

>> No.71936940

>>71936706
her last stream was mid january(the birthday donothon) and she decided to quit around that time. did you actually expect her to get paid for this and december after she terminated her contract with the company and ghosted them during negotiations? i cant believe that im taking a corporate side holy shit

>> No.71936972

I think the most interesting part of all this is that this is another case of a chuuba quiting right after doing a donothon. Funny how frequent they disappear after doing these things

>> No.71936985

$450k just because she wanted to leave???
What the fuck kind of company is V&U

>> No.71936990

>the only rebuttal gooks CAN provide is just dismissing shit left and right
turbo grim
can't wait for the rest of dramafags to jump on this shitshow

>> No.71936997

/vnug/ is going to be unusable until this is done, isn't it? Not that it was ever a fast thread, but I enjoyed shitposting with you guys during streams.

>> No.71937003

>>71936883
Kys

>> No.71937044

>>71936940
tbf if my boss tried to demand 10 years(?) wages when quitting I would ghost him too. maybe laugh at him before ghosting him.

>> No.71937058

>>71936997
Just use filters.

>> No.71937088

>>71936972
my rrat is she tried to take one of the girls with her and walk with the donothon money

>> No.71937100

>>71936997
The dramatourists are obvious and there's still only a handful of people that care about V&U, even to shitpost. Some other retarded shit will probably happen and give their attention a factory reset.

>> No.71937108

>>71937044
but would you also terminate your contract early for some actually dumb reason too?

>> No.71937123

>>71936990
>admitting to be a dramafag

>> No.71937132

>>71937100
Why would you care for the company if they're doing this type of shit to their talents?

>> No.71937143

>>71936997
it only takes some niji liver to open their mouth for dramafags to shift focus again

>> No.71937167

>>71937003
not my fault seanig, you can off yourself now

>> No.71937175

>>71937108
thats false dichotomy bro. if one party does something shit, it doesn't mean what the other party isn't even more shit.
and tbf she did say she had a mental health crisis. idk a breakdown does sound like a legit reason if she's telling the truth

>> No.71937189

Woozie just can't win...

>> No.71937191

>>71937088
I think she did the donothon with the intention to quit and use the money on her indie persona. But looks like she didn't even get that much

>> No.71937200

>>71936997
eh it was worst the first time, you can shut down this kids pretty easily because they know shit about fuck

>> No.71937204

>>71936972
>vtuber donothon does incredibly well
>they realize they can go indie and cut out the (corpo) middleman
>vtuber donothon bombs
>they realize their current audience is nothing but poorfags and their current identity is a waste of time
Donothons are a curse.

>> No.71937215

>>71937132
Don't bother. They are nijisisters of small corpos. Just laugh at them.

>> No.71937233

>ESL

>> No.71937234

>>71937132
because it was clear in the companies response that they wanted to negotiate or at least figure out a solution for her in private. Then serafi just went off and disappeared

>> No.71937239

>>71937132
tranny detected

>> No.71937246

>>71937175
do you actually have any understanding of what happened? oh who am i kidding

>> No.71937262

Love Lofi.
Love Liora.
Love Kokone.
Love Amoria.
Love Meeta.
Love Cyon.
Love Meave.
Love Echo.
Love Suri.
Love Misma.
Move Donkey Kong.
Love Tia.
Love Zeli.
Love Ceren.
Love Rowa.
Love my granddaughter wife Mivi.
Love Ciccino.
Love Tomomomomi
'ate dramaniggers.

Simple as.

>> No.71937270

>>71937204
That's a good way to put it.

>> No.71937297

>>71937234
>drop 450k invoice because she wants to leave
nah, wtf is this shit

>> No.71937302

>>71937189
yes, but the reason is that she has retards like you watching

>> No.71937313

>>71937262
Love Xander
Love Jun
Love Endo
'ate Jazz

Simple as.

>> No.71937322

Can't even shitpost in proper english, fucking seanigs

>> No.71937335

>>71937246
>do you actually have any understanding of what happened?
I mean, does anyone at this point? I doubt anyone here has been party to negotiation behind the scenes. All we have to go on is her side since V&U only release the sterilized vague notice for their part.

>> No.71937352

>Reasonable questions are considered "Shitposts"
The absolute state

>> No.71937355

>>71936442
The truth makes the gooktards seethe

>> No.71937366

>we

>> No.71937383

>>71937335
if you have two active braincells you know what happened.
Serafi fucked her mods and herself

>> No.71937398

>>71937123
>sucking on gook dick

>> No.71937400

>>71937262
I prefer
>love the talents
>hate the company
I can't believe how many people drink the coolaid and believe that a for-profit corporation loves them. microsoft and apple fanboys are the same way.

>> No.71937428

>>71937234
No it's not, gook. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

>> No.71937431

>>71937234
Yeah that's why they demanded she pay half a million dollars as a termination fee right?

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>>71937234
>negotiate
Do gooktards really?

>> No.71937460

>>71937335
people watching streams can tell her story is bullshit

>> No.71937469

>Raises 4k for subathon
>Company doesn't give her the money
>She wants to leave
>Company gives her a 450k Invoice
grim

>> No.71937470

>VNU going down
>MyHolo still alive
woozie is bad news, maybe liola was right

>> No.71937473

>>71937352
This whole general is on damage control until further notice because their favorite chuuba is threatened from the drama going on right now. UNLESS they’re not, which they’re not bitching right now

>> No.71937520

>>71937400
Isn't that what that anon said? I didn't see V&U on that list.
did DK dirty too.
>captcha: D0X4V

>> No.71937533

>>71937234
She wasn't the one who tried to bill them for like a decade's worth of income. That's a lot more deep-end crazy than anything I've heard from her side, even if you believe anything that comes out the rumor-mill.
Hell, if anything trying to bill a crazy person that much money is even more worse than billing a normal person that much.

>> No.71937539

>>71937204
yeah, I know these girls are making a living (or trying to) off this but donothons always felt to obvious for me

>> No.71937540

>>71937297
as much as the charge seems ridiculous, There has to be a valid reason as to why. All I'm saying is keep an open mind... A company wouldn't just throw out a random charge of numbers without any basis. There's too much in this situation that is vague.

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>>71937520
more for me

>> No.71937559

when the only thing you have to shitpost is one screenshot from some dramafag
"valid arguments"
kek

>> No.71937563

I just want to comfort myself by cumming on Liora's tits rn (right now)

>> No.71937565

>>71937431
show us one vtuber who paid a termination fee and got out, everyone just waits it out because it costs a lot everywhere

>> No.71937568
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71937568

>>71937262
poor cerenity

>> No.71937599

>>71937262
>>71937568
wait nevermind I'm retarded

>> No.71937610

>>71937540
>There has to be a valid reason as to why.
Yeah, spite. or greed.
stop drinking the koolaid bro, you really think the entire agency focused solely on a single talent for like a quarter of a year and ignored everyone else? Or that the company pays their staff at like 10 times the market rate?

>> No.71937621

>>71937559
Kys

>> No.71937622

you can't expect some underpaid SEA citizen to understand about buyouts

>> No.71937624

>>71937559
black corpo bootlicker lmao

>> No.71937631

>>71937335
well, you have serafi stream where shes contradicting herself on several things, the sterilized corporate statement and the lull period that supports company statement about their goodwill towards serafi. you might not have a lot to go with, but you can make your own conclusions on the matter.
my conclusion on this situation is that serafi makes light of people that actually suffered a lot under actual black corporations and its damaging to literally everyone involved. its pretty much like some metoo movement with bitches coming out that some rando raped them because they smiled or some shit, which hurts actual victims.

>> No.71937663

>le SEA

>> No.71937669

>>71937621
>>71937624
Seething.

>> No.71937671

>>71937631
Kys

>> No.71937670

>>71937624
yes, i know you're a twitter tranny

>> No.71937673

>>71937622
>half a million USD termination fee
roru

>> No.71937684

>>71937631
Holy moly, what a damage control. Manager-san, I hope you are getting paid for this.

>> No.71937696

moji go to sleep you troon

>> No.71937701

>>71937559
I don't think dramasisters care about stuff being actually true or false. They just look for drama, pick a side and repeats shit someone else said.

>> No.71937712

>>71937631
>serafi stream where shes contradicting herself on several things
Any examples? Proof next thread?

>> No.71937730

>>71937540
if you think there is any kind of remote justification for a downright silly wackadoo number like 450k, you are an actual crazy person

>> No.71937749

>>71937730
show a screenshot of the paragraph between Serafi and V&U manage where they "extorted" that amount

>> No.71937752

Insane how false did a video and all of a sudden you get these SEAs in here

>> No.71937754

>>71937631
I mean V&U aren't exactly refuting her point when they're sending her a bill for a half-million dollars. Just because you're fighting someone who may be an asshole, it doesn't automatically mean you're not one too (or that you're not an even bigger one).

>> No.71937764 [DELETED] 

this is the best Southeast Asia has to offer? some poor trannies with barely any argument?

>> No.71937795

>>71937673
"i only watched one stream about this"
rumao

>> No.71937796

When you run out of arguments just bang on the SEA

>> No.71937799

>>71937540
nta but the actual reason is probably that they simply didnt want her to quit and wanted her to reconsider, especially since they invested in her.

>> No.71937815

>le SEA
black company defense force...

>> No.71937833

>>71937815
>>71937796
So you all are from SEA?

>> No.71937836

>>71937712
you care about serafi right? you should know about this, cmon dramafag...

>> No.71937845

>>71937799
Korean logic? What is wrong with those people

>> No.71937851

>purple Keemstar’s army of underage dramafags and Serafi’s simps are shitting up the thread with their cries of “muh black corpo”
Fuck this shit, wake me up when the thread is usable again.

>> No.71937896

>>71937749
She did mention the lawyer-tuber who went over the bill on his stream. So we can verify the source is from her. Whether or not she's telling the truth is another matter. But lying about it would paint a big defamation lawsuit target on her back and destroy any further hopes of a vtubing career, so I'm inclined to believe her.

>> No.71937895

>>71937851
Bang on the SEA issue more, that'll help your case

>> No.71937913

>>71937836
>no argument
>no evidence
I accept your concession

>> No.71937915

>>71937833
nothing wrong with SEA, you support a black company tho

>> No.71937922

>>71937895
It sounds like you're upset because he's right.

>> No.71937936

>>71937712
>they are not helping me with the channel
>except the times when they do
maybe watch her stream before dramafagging

>> No.71937948

>>71937922
Real sorry I ruined your black corpo cocksucking thread anon

>> No.71937961

>>71937913
BananaChicken? Why are you shitting on VNU?

>> No.71937982

>>71937913
the evidence is there in her channel, if you think im gonna do charity and feed homeless people...

>> No.71937984

there are only three good small corpos, sorry vnuggers, but you're not among them

>> No.71937988

>>71937936
Timestamps? You can't just say things without timestamps

>> No.71938012

>>71937896
the lawyertuber was also saying that he saw her contract and called it bad. didnt show the contract like he did with nijisanji. what now?

>> No.71938016

>no clawback clause in the contract
>"um ackshully, we are going to send you an itemized list of charges and you have to pay"
do koreans really

>> No.71938029

>>71937984
>good small corpos
There's no such thing as a good small corpo. Good corpos don't stay small.

>> No.71938032

>>71937915
>nothing wrong with SEA
i mean, you live there...

>> No.71938045

>VNU regulars in False and dramalawyer comments shitting on VNU
it's a civil war

>> No.71938047

>>71937988
>doesnt even know the drama hes dramafagging about
grim

>> No.71938051

>>71937915
>nothing wrong with SEA
>

>> No.71938065 [DELETED] 

I knew koreans were no good

>> No.71938081

>>71937984
(You)

>> No.71938105

>>71937896
The way I see it, getting involved with dramafags already kills any hope of joining another corpo. If you have nothing to lose, redact and release communication. Prove that what you're saying is what happened - go big or go home. Dancing around it while the lawyer yells "WE HAVE ALL THE RECEIPTS, EVERYONE WE HAVE ALL THE PROOF" but not backing up that that's exactly what happened doesn't look good to me.

>> No.71938117

>>71938029
two of them are mid size now, the last one it's taking it's time
>>71938081
thank you thank you

>> No.71938154

>>71938065
All asians are no good. You should know this by now. This thread is proof of it

>> No.71938155

>>71938045
Now we know who the jazzposters were.

>> No.71938165

>>71938154
t. Gooksucker

>> No.71938208

i imagine that's how bvtm's favebook page looks like lol

>> No.71938206

>>71938045
Jazz niggas vindicated

>> No.71938232

and just like that the 8th attempt is done, i guess lunch time is almost over for them

>> No.71938239

>>71938105
you know, this is pretty funny how serafi said that she got inspired by doki. all while doki never went to dramafags and just fucked off to do her own thing, while the company went on a crusade against her. literally the opposite of whats happening here lmao

>> No.71938252

>>71938105
Did Legal Grifter ever show Serafi's whole contract on stream?

>> No.71938261

>>71938165
>All asians are no good
Nigga read

>> No.71938266

>>71938105
>Dancing around it while the lawyer yells "WE HAVE ALL THE RECEIPTS, EVERYONE WE HAVE ALL THE PROOF" but not backing up that that's exactly what happened doesn't look good to me.
To be fair the contract itself is probably under NDA, which she is bound to because she signed it. However, since she didn't sign an agreement for the 450k bill, it wouldn't be under NDA so could be shown on stream. Though that answer probably is too boring for dramachasers and corporate shills in this thread.

>> No.71938281

>>71938252
not even a snippet, only showed the invoice.

>> No.71938284

>>71938239
dookieturd was a mistake

>> No.71938304

>>71938239
she was inspired by Sayu 1000%

>> No.71938309
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71938309

at this point it feels like the tourists are biting more than the regulars

>> No.71938317

>>71938252
nope, the only shit that faggot showed was the screenshot these retards use as an argument

>> No.71938337

>>71938266
she already broke nda by showing it to dramatuber, no?

>> No.71938341

suri pl groomercord going menhera

>> No.71938356

>>71938281
>>71938317
the most plausible explanation is >>71938266

>> No.71938368

>>71938266
t.newfag

>> No.71938385
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71938385

I warned you about the gooks bros

>> No.71938396

>>71938337
NDA doesn't mean shit if it's something illegal. Workers rights are a thing

>> No.71938406

vnu is FINISHED

>> No.71938416

>>71938337
The law has exemptions for certain confidentiality clauses for lawyers. Otherwise how could you ever find out a contract is illegal if you were forbidden from showing a lawyer? And even if that doesn't apply here, there is zero physical evidence she actually shared it ("some guy on a video said he saw it" isn't enough to prevent it from being dismissed for lack of evidence).

>> No.71938420

>>71938341
real

>> No.71938422

>>71938356
except funnyman kept talking about serafi not being under any kind of nda, newfag only learned about this 5 minutes ago

>> No.71938438

>>71938396
why not show the contract then? we need to know how black vnu is, right?

>> No.71938455

>>71938422
>except funnyman
still making up guys to be mada about?

>> No.71938499

>>71938455
back to the catalog sister

>> No.71938505

>>71938341
Again?

>> No.71938517
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71938517

>making up guys
?

>> No.71938536

>>71938416
dramatubers are not lawyers.
>but hes a lawyer!
he didnt do that in professional capacity because he was not hired as a lawyer.

>> No.71938540

>>71937961
Go back, /pkg/nigger

>> No.71938548

>>71938517
That dumb motherfucker lmao

>> No.71938566

>>71938499
Seethe

>> No.71938575

>>71938422
>If you're in a V&U thread and don't watch some rando male fleshtuber lawyer, you're now a newfag
okay anon. maybe you should add him to the OP next time, too.

>> No.71938581

>>71938517
Funnyman is a king. Didn't he come to this thread to announce that she was graduated earlier?

>> No.71938614

>>71938536
"i don't know about korean law but this can't be right"

>> No.71938617

>>71938536
Her actual lawyer is seperate from him. He just brought attention to it after Serafi gave him permission

>> No.71938623

>>71938575
This but unironically

>> No.71938624

>>71938575
anon, you do realize that you just outed yourself as a tourist right?

>> No.71938630

>>71938396
>>71938438
Contracts don't work like that. If a clause is struck down by the court it doesn't mean the entire contract is invalid, except in the most extreme of circumstances. At least in most Western jurisdictions.

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71938642

>>71938281
>>71938266
This is the reason why I don't trust that dramafag at all. I remember an AkioAir girl went to his chat correcting what his "researcher." was presenting. He banned her ass because they claim they can't respond to her publicly. He pretends to be professional when the summary of the incident was presented through rap by an autistic dramawhore in the same stream. Stating that his streams are commentary when it's convenient for him is a sign that this grifter has no balls.

>> No.71938668

>>71938575
make it make sense

>> No.71938675

>>71938540
go back fighting sisters on twitter, retarded cuck lmao >>71936572

>> No.71938699

>>71938566
sister slay

>> No.71938730

Nobody told me Kokone was on Meeta's stream...

>> No.71938747

>>71938617
im not talking about her actual lawyer, im talking about legalmindset explicitly saying that he saw the contract. isnt this the exact same thing where nijisanji shared confidential document to unrelated parties not bound by the nda?

>> No.71938781

>>71938747
But she isn't bound to an NDA

>> No.71938786

I hope Liora doomposting kino is back on the menu.

>> No.71938787

>>71938642
Also I don't trust anyone that came up through that retard Gator,

>> No.71938791

>>71938642
>This is the reason why I don't trust that dramafag at all. I remember an AkioAir girl went to his chat correcting what his "researcher." was presenting. He banned her ass because they claim they can't respond to her publicly.
Not defending his content, but I saw he also said that trolls and such occasionally enter the chat pretending to be relevant people. Which I can see totally being a thing given how drama attracts trolls.

>> No.71938811

well at least they're there and not here
you fucked up serafi, let's see if you can handle all the shit that's coming your way

>> No.71938826

>>71938786
Liora will graduate in April

>> No.71938828

>>71938730
Bro? >>71919109

>> No.71938869

Serafi saying she wasn't paid is complete bullshit. Anybody who knows how yt works knows that the money comes in a month later. If she ghosted their ass starting february, no wonder she hadn't been paid for two months.

>> No.71938893

>>71938869
Okay intern kun

>> No.71938894

>>71938826
Yeah, because we're getting married in May. Sorry you had to find out this way palkyries.

>> No.71938897

>>71938811
>let's see if you can handle all the shit that's coming your way
Anon, an international lawyer (inc. translation services) would cost double what they're asking. She's hardly in for a world of legal hurt unless v&u is backed by wealthy venture capitalists or something who have a personal grudge.

>> No.71938902

>>71938781
then show the contract or i will conclude that shes making shit up

>> No.71938914
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71938914

my granddaughter wife is so precious

>> No.71938943

>>71938897
I mean..

>> No.71938952

>>71938897
arent they backed by the government

>> No.71938988

>>71938952
No, they aren't backed by Samsung

>> No.71938994

Everyone shut the fuck up about Serafi, Mivi just tweet https://twitter.com/MiviVNU/status/1770702312849207475

>> No.71938997

>>71935271
Seriously? lol

>> No.71938996

>>71938869
The money literally goes through the company then to her, like every other company. Serafi was graduated in late Feb, it's been 2 months since then

>> No.71939027

>>71938914
>posting about notdrama streams
we don't do that shit here

>> No.71939028

>>71938897
well time to sell my bitcoin then

>> No.71939098

>>71938914
>properly eat a pigeon
What.

>> No.71939102

>>71938996
2 months since february? really?

>> No.71939125

>>71938996
Anon...we're still in March.
February was last month.

>> No.71939148

>>71938902
EXACTLY

>> No.71939149

>>71939027
I wish there were streams to post about... Cerenity and Echo both quickly ended their streams just before the announcement was posted.

>> No.71939184

>>71939102
Sorry, a month since her "graduation". 2 months since the donathon that the company is withholding money to her. I got the dates mixed up

>> No.71939188

>>71938988
I feel like that's even worse for her.

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>>71938994
>how to properly eat a pigeon
theres a dish in poland and its name can translate to pigeon, pic related.

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HOLY FUCK GUYS

>> No.71939224

>>71939199
I can't believe she said this

>> No.71939253

>>71939199
I know understand that anon that snubbed DK in his love post and I apologize.

>> No.71939261

>>71938914
>>71938994
>Manuel
Mivi...

>> No.71939265

>>71939184
do you know how youtube works? do you even know wtf happened after the donothon?

>> No.71939290

>>71939199
nuke this one too

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71939305

did they already get bored?

>> No.71939318

>>71939305
They ran back to the catalogue thread to shitpost among themselves, yes.

>> No.71939485

Do you guys think if V&U shows the receipts of her being a shitty person and the rest of the girls corroborate it, that these dramatubers will actually report that too or ignore it?

>> No.71939533

>>71939485
99% chance of either ">trusting what a corpo says" or silently pretend the entire thing never happened because there isn't enough drama in it anymore

>> No.71939544

>>71938914
>>71938994
I'm really happy to see Mivi getting the eyes on her she deserves, shes great

>> No.71939575

>>71939485
Not even real news channels follow up on drama, what makes you think "entertainment" drama channels would?

>> No.71939586

>>71939485
not worth it
if vnu show receipts "why are they harrasing her"
if the girls talk "it's obvious the black corpo is making them do this" or some clique shit
if they really wanna go legal with this they need to shut up and save everything for their lawyers

>> No.71939602

Has there ever been a case where a menhera chuuba tries to fight their termination but gets BTFO? I guess Michael Cat?

>> No.71939628

>>71939544
You don't really have a choice but to keep your eyes on her if you don't want to be run down by her in a car.

>> No.71939639

>>71939318
2 hrs and only 170 replies, that's sad

>> No.71939732

>>71939305
i want to kiss amoria's feet

>> No.71939774

>>71939485
>and the rest of the girls corroborate it
no. girls should just stay out of it and let lawyers talk if vnu really decides to escalate.

>> No.71939799

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNwTglVYt3U
great our fanbase will be treated like nijisanji 2.0

>> No.71939825

why does serafi remind me of dokibird?

>> No.71939844

>>71939485

>> No.71939869

>>71939825
because that's literally what she's trying to do

>> No.71939891

>>71939825
She reminds me of Neena, even before she yab out lol

>> No.71939919

>71939825
She's more like Hitomi Chris of ours trying to be doki

>> No.71939955

I'm not here for drama. I just want to say that I came to the Tomomi pic.

>> No.71939981

aight bitches do your fucking reps
https://youtu.be/VGos24A9KQE?t=5760

>> No.71939987

>>71939825
She's more like Sayu but more stupid

>> No.71939990

>>71939825
i would anti the shit out of vnu if the serafi thing was even 1% as bad as doki, thank god it fucking isnt.

>> No.71939995

>>71939639
Dramafag here
Honestly this shit is pretty fucking boring, unlike the niji shitstorm. It seems that people are thirsty for another yab since Niji somehow learned their lesson and kept their mouths shut about the Doki stuff. I know I do.
And that catalog thread seem to be propped up by a singular schizo too, so its equally even more boring.

>> No.71940008

>make a bad investment
>charge the person 450k you didn't assess correctly whose in the US the black market tactics wouldn't work against.
Not even nijiniggers would go that far with tribalism to defend their company after that.

>> No.71940012

>>71940008
>>71939981

>> No.71940013

>>71939981
>I want to say all this so I can look back on it and see how far I've come

>> No.71940038

>>71939981(me)
most of the shit she said as a excuse to get out can be debunked with that

>> No.71940051

>>71940008
yeah, nijiniggers defend a company that forced their employee to make an attempt on their life.

>> No.71940068

>>71939485
Yeah, just do what nijisanji did, there's certainly no way that will backfire, look how well it worked out for nijisanji

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>>71939981
Remember anons, never trust a woman that already told you to your face that she planned to ditch you.

>> No.71940156

>>71939990
She caused all of her own problems by being toxic and stupid. Completely different. Doki was a selfless hero who wanted to lift everyone up

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>>71939261

>> No.71940252

gen2 manager must feel like shit

>> No.71940328

hey at least Tonya is in Nikke

>> No.71940339

>>71940252
Gen 2 really has a hard time
>tons of money investment into ads for the first time to test out the investment
>amoria can't hold her number
>serafi can hold it somewhat but take breaks
>investors breathing down their neck because the noombers return weren't good for the amount of money going into ads
>force to cut down on merch and covers
>Liora was at the peak of doomposting.

>> No.71940367

>>71940328
I wonder what agency did Tonya join or did she join any at all.
She said for sure that she is joining an agency in 2024 and since she got a gig in Nikke, I assumed that she got in somewhere that hooked her up.

>> No.71940392

>>71940367
Cosmograph just has good taste

>> No.71940396

>>71936972
>I think the most interesting part of all this is that this is another case of a chuuba quiting right after doing a donothon.

I remember you need to wait 3-4 weeks before you can receive revenue from your video, unless the company pays you in advance?

>> No.71940436

>>71937204
If the girl stick around and doesn't yab after a donothon, you know you can somewhat trust her

>> No.71940499

>>71940328
what!?

>> No.71940504

>>71940392
Tonya actually has some music producers' eyes on her
I remember seeing Psyqui listening in her Twitter space.

>> No.71940522

>>71940499
She get to sing one of the new song for Nikke

>> No.71940530

>>71939485
>you know what would help after we got terrible PR for withholding pay and demanding the 10x the revenue of our branch from a talent for quitting? Some discord screenshots where she was mean to our managers! We need to drag this bitch's ass on x.com!
Brilliant strategy, I suggest management goes through with it

>> No.71940541

>>71940499
they're doing a collab event with Re:Zero and she sang in the main event song

>> No.71940547

>>71940436
I'm gonna write this and the rule of 3 down somewhere.

>> No.71940583

lunch time is over my dude, now go and clean those toilets

>> No.71940641

>>71940522
>>71940541
sasuga Smilodon

>> No.71940710

Amoria is our vsinger now

>> No.71940738
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71940738

To all tourists

>> No.71940768

i need to suck and fuck Liora and Kokone's tits and drink Maeve and Zeli's piss now more than ever

>> No.71940785

>>71940738
only after checking out this cute cover !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5QVMd2F-j8

>> No.71940805
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71940805

Hold on we're back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vi6QbAbCgjA

>> No.71940894

>>71937599
Mwah You adorable retard

>> No.71941037

Liora I love you.

>> No.71941096

>>71940499
https://twitter.com/ShabelTonya/status/1770647776935948632
I had no idea either, I haven't exactly watched her recently but good for her
>>71940805
finally, dead hour are over and degen hours begin

>> No.71941336

eepy and thread about to die, i guess ill go to sleep listening to cyon ramble

>> No.71941488

>>71941336
Good night Suri

>> No.71941649

Cyon old

>> No.71941678

wow cyon might actually be older than me

>> No.71941714

>>71932206
man... why couldn't they have just said it was a miscommunication or something and released Serafi instead of doubling down.

>> No.71941773

cyon is making me realize that i was a coomer since i was a kid and didnt even know about it lmao

>> No.71941780

>>71941714
fuck off

>> No.71941802

>>71941773
same but I knew

>> No.71941812

Man...I just want to release all over Liora...

>> No.71941822

>>71941649
>>71941678
how old

>> No.71941848

>>71941822
she had a reality check moment when she said that 2001 was not that long ago

>> No.71941912

"an old hen makes a good broth"

>> No.71941929

>>71941822
I dunno if her specific age was ever pinned down but she owned an original game boy as a kid before it released in NA, and was the oldest kid in her neighborhood at the time.
Kokone is older.

>> No.71942021

>>71941929
Kokone and Misma could be older, we just know Cyon "isn't the oldest", and that Kokone is older than Liora

>> No.71942092

>>71942021
wait this is a hag certified corpo?

>> No.71942127

>>71942021
I don't remember what stream I gleaned this from but I'm pretty sure Misma is closer to Liora's age than Kokone or Cyon

>> No.71942145

>>71942092
yeah, 4 members somewhere in the 29+ range
>>71942127
if you remember, would be cool to know

>> No.71942201

>>71942092
Kokone, Liora, Cyon, Misma, and probably Rowa

>> No.71942233

pretty sure that shonen jump lets you read pretty much everything for free

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