/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Who really cares if Nijisanji livers don't get their play buttons? Who does it hurt? Sure the liver earned it, but they belong to a corporation. That corporation gave them the tools needed to succeed, and they wouldn't have otherwise. That award rightfully belongs to Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
This is my #1 wish for the hololive girls, cover needs you, not the other way around, dont be afraid to throw your weight around

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852382
Bullshit. Talents are replaceable, but the money behind them isn't. Honestly I hope these ungrateful turds on Nijisanji's payroll get axed and some people with some goddamn respect get hired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852471
Trying too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Glad you didn't have to speak out loud to make this post, what with the copious amounts of Riku's cum you're constantly gargling.
The organization is nothing without it's talents, not the other way around. The fact that they won't even give the option to pay the couple hundred bucks to order an extra copy for themselves is abhorrent. It really shows what the company thinks of the people who keep THEM in business.
Please do the world a favor and kill yourself. Don't use pills, they have a 5% success rate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852550
Believe me or don't. I know what I know and I stand with who I stand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

being a nijisanji liver is one of the most happiest moment a person with interest in a vtubing career can have, most of the now defunct id branch livers graduated on good terms with nijisanji, they werent fired like the haters were spewing.

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

What does Niji do other than provide the model and lose the talent tens of thousands of subs from their controversies? No concerts, no events, no 3D for literal years, etc. Even small EN based corpos do more and have better splits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853057
Like I said, it doesn't matter. The talents need the company, not the other way around. They should be thankful every second of every day that Nijisanji decided to give them a job, and one of the ways they can make up that gift is doing what they're told.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Exactly, they should be proud that it's going to be hung on the yacht

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Yeah, I don't know why these retards can't grasp that they're worthless and replaceable. RIKU is the one who actually earned these play buttons by manifesting their abilities as a liver. It's not their buttons to keep!

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853558
Holy bootlicker

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Can you at least make it a bit believable?

[Anonymous No.]

fuck off sis

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
This niggas name Bandage

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853840
I can't decide if Bandage or Clawmark is worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853558
>she was overwhelmed by the beautifully decorated buttons for all of the members
Now that's funny. But really, Hololive doesn't do this, so the "It's a JP thing!!1!!" argument doesn't hold water.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854069
No wonder hololive is so much less successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Same question, but the other way around
Why the fuck does nijisanji needs a fcking "play button dungeon"?
Do they go there, 3 times a week, to jerk each other off and congratulate themselves on how well they milk their talent?

Keeping these plates is proof of how insecure and narcissitic they are.
Just give them to their owners as a sign of appreciation for their hard work.

>still hoping this is just dumb bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
They did not earn it, they won't get it without joining nijisanji. The button belongs to niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853383
You should apply, you deserve them. When the time comes, remember to invest in rope. You wanna make sure you succeed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Nijisanji attracts :
- Staffs who don't care
- Managements who don't care
- Livers who don't care
- Audience who don't care
- Community who don't care
No fucking wonder they never grow, VSPO! is already taking over their position as the 2nd best chuuba company overall

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
It's not that the button is physically important like it's a horcrux or something - in fact, it's BECAUSE it is kind of trivial in the grand scheme of things that it's so comical that niji management keeps them even though it'd cost them nothing to just buy a spare one.

It's like if you just started working and your workplace kept the first paycheck stub and gave you the money, but never handed you the check itself just to deny you the minor joy of having a ceremonial first check. They did it just to lord over you that you work for them and you're nothing without them etc. That's just cartoonishly dickish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854129
Hololive is #1 among vtubers and has been for a while now though? Are you ok, sister?

[Anonymous No.]

If Vezalius Bandage (Jesus Christ what a name) was an indie, he'd never break 100 subs let alone 100k. Who really earned that button?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854167
This exact same thread has been posted a dozen times before, and if you look at some of the other posts in here it should be obvious it's larpers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Not a Niji fan but I think its pretty shitty & cruel to deny the actual talents who put in the streaming hours to build their brands can't even get a single simple physical representation of their efforts.

Your company sucks and I hope it dies a fast, violent death,

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854328
if nijisanji management never hired anyone to play Mr. Bandage that button never would have come into being. who's gonna pilot the character, Riku?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854460
You sure? There are some legit Nijisanji maniacs out there. People willing to dox and attack Doki supporters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
I know this is an obvious falseflag but it's fun shitting on nijiniggers anyway
>Who does it hurt?
Their morale
>Sure the liver earned it, but they belong to a corporation. That corporation gave them the tools needed to succeed, and they wouldn't have otherwise.
The corpo focused on vtubers would be nothing without their vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Usually I refuse to believe you're being real, but now I'm not confident

[Anonymous No.]

nijisanji will never die as long as kuzuha is here and pulling numbers that mogs most of your idols, seethe holofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Who really cares if Chief players don't get their NFL rings? Who does it hurt? Sure the players earned it, but they belong to the team owner. That team owner gave them the tools needed to succeed, and they wouldn't have otherwise. Those rings rightfully belongs to Clark Hunt.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854129
>hololive is so much less successful
does she know lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853558
oh my god
a jap brainwashed by niji
does he not realize that hololive, right next doors, literally gives all their talents play buttons?
i always knew they were retarded, but this is a new low.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854784
>mogs most of your idols
clueless KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854167
I still see so many people baselessly claiming hololive does the same thing, with zero evidence
This kept popping up when fuwamoco got 2 play buttons, that the office supposedly bought an extra copy for them and then another one for the office

Nijisanji is legitimately so bad that it makes people think vtubers overall are terrible and it drags peoples perceptions of hololive down by thinking everyones the same as them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
(You)

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854295
that's a good analogy. I'd still be happy they paid me, and the company still did a dick move. It is ultimately, negligible

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852787
>I know what I know
nothing
>I stand with who I stand
retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>71856175
>I'm a mindless holodrone who latches onto every perceived controversy because my own life is boring and miserable
I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71855656
yeah, we don't actually know if Cover even has a copy of the buttons and they really spent the money to order a spare for each talent. This would mean they've spent at least $15k on just play buttons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71856261
>I'm a mindless nijidrone who latches onto every perceived controversy against the holy company and saint Riku because my own life is boring and miserable
we know

[Anonymous No.]

another day, another obvious bait thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
You can buy additional play buttons. Nijisanji doesn't let livers do that.
They also take all physical trophies and awards the livers win in third party events.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71856310
That's a minuscule amount considering how much they make. But I also doubt Yagoo is as weirdly possessive of the play buttons as Riku is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Why are sister defending black deeds

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
>>71853572
Are these from the draw thread? I saw that request and didn't know it got filled

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853010
Found the person that didn't watch NijiID. The livers were seething when they quit, they just weren't allowed to vent due to the NDAs

[Anonymous No.]

>>71857132
Poe's law is in full effect. It's both bootlicking sisters and shitposters riding the wave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162

[Anonymous No.]

So Riku wants to keep one of each play buttons, ok cool.
But why doesn't he order duplicates for his talents? That's the fucked up part.

[Anonymous No.]

Are there any other corpos that do this? Most never get that far, but Niji is the only one I'm aware of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853010
Isn't ID the branch with the ones who outright said
>stop sending us fanmail
>they don't send it to us
>here's a PO box I just made 5 minutes ago instead

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853010
Didn't notMika have a whole fucking breakdown in October about how she thought she was worthless and had no talent and nobody could ever hire her again, and how it took her so long to get over it and begin to recover? ID was absolutely not in good terms.

[Anonymous No.]

Getting hard to tell what's a shitpost and what's not at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71859788
The sisters are so clinically insane that their comments sound like a joke and vice versa

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Who really cares if Nijisanji livers don't get their 98%? Who does it hurt? Sure the liver earned it, but the money belong to a corporation. That corporation gave them the tools needed to succeed, and they wouldn't have otherwise. That money rightfully belongs to Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71859170
anon, its just fanmails that was sent at the main corpo's addresses, no vtubing companies care enough to read these letters unless you send it at the talents personal mailbox for their vtubing characters.
>>71859373
id was paid well, they have seriously low ccv but was given time and time to still stay at the main branch like hana is doing currently. mika was obviously offered an extension but didnt wanted to stay and graduated on good terms, like chihiro. you think nijisanji will let good talents go without offering them a new deal ? the former livers rejected those deals.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71860926
The pay doesn't matter so much if you end up wanting to kill yourself before spending it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
>Everyone get their play buttons
>See all those photo of play buttons on the same old white desk?
>Niji just keeping them safe.
>Ex-Niji come out and said they don't get their play buttons
>Liver could just ask for it
>None of them ask for play buttons
>They don't deserve it.
You are here.
>What play buttons?

I'm amazed that you make it to "they don't deserve it" tier. If I'm missing or skipping any step please inform me.

[Anonymous No.]

Fuck your mother Riku

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854129
> Less successful

> Holo5th fes is much successful with lots of fand from japan and worldwide attending and partnering with travel tours company is making it worth
>Gura having a successful collab in taipei among others
> Cover establishing USA Branch already
Kekw seethe more

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852471
>Talents are replaceable
funny how on the financial report a select number of talents are responsible for 1/3 of earnings
I wonder if they are replaceable

[Anonymous No.]

>>71862345
Honestly if anything that makes it more clear that talents are replaceable. Just not the top 15 talents. Good thing those never leave... right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71860926
> Chihiro
> Good terms

Anon she was complaining that she was shafted on her birthday stream because they need to debut a new group

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji livers(and hololive's) are nobody without the company's name

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853558
Whenever I feel that all these shitspewing NDF posts /here/ are just trolls and falseflaggers exaggerating the psychosis of Niji fans, these pics remind me again and again that the Anycolor pump and dump really does indoctrinate its supporters into a cult dedicated only to the brand, only to Riku.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71860926
Yeah I'm sure ID was feeling fine.
Also Chihiro flat out said that she hated her time there, didn't she? Lots of comments like how "they treat you as a corporate vtuber when it's convenient, but you're an indie when you aren't."?
She redebuted literally days after graduating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
A FUCKING BANDAGE
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[Anonymous No.]

>>71862589
>>71862881
chihiro was letting out pent out frustrations, we all have them when we are working and trying to get a career going that can put food on the table. chihiro was good but i always felt like she underperformed badly after her apex streams hype died out and never went to try new things to revitalize her career. she was a very loyal servant to nijisanji though, and the company still remembers her good deeds like the boss, riku does when he honoured selen's impact on en branch growth despite her messy termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71864351
>he honored selen's impact on the branch
but he still kept the termination notice up, and they put out the black screen video
for fuck's sake they didn't even apologize to her or her fans, just to the investors.
She's still persona non grata according to them.
It just reeks of "Sorry I got caught. Please don't tank our stocks"

[Anonymous No.]

>>71864351
Actual niji bootlicker in action. Holy moly

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853010
I rarely say this in this site but you're a retard.
They literally got shocked and angry but they can't do anything because their contract is very one sided. They wanted to quit en masse but the management only allowed like 3 livers every 4 months to save the company's face.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
>button on the wall

I remember a certain Karen saying you're not just a brick on the wall

oof

[Anonymous No.]

>>71864351
>she was a very loyal servant to nijisanji though
I'm a SEA myself and this is too much by SEA standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71866244
was amicia, zea and siska angry when they left nijisanji ? nope, the id branch was given a chance to stay and renew but most of them rejected renewals. i was really sad that both zea and mika rejected niji's deal and did not stayed like hana does. haters will give nijisanji hell for id branch mass graduations, but it was the livers decision to not renews their contract. you cant keep people that dont want to stay for too long, it brings bad morale and toxic environment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71864351
Nijifags always come up with the most bootlicking corpo narratives

[Anonymous No.]

>>71856310
>>71856407
>>71855656
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyaJNuxAqQU
See there's another comment saying Cover ordered play buttons for the office, just hours ago
This is what I'm fucking talking about, I really think this is the fault of people like depressed nousagi and rima spreading this misinformation
Nobody bothers to correct them or provide any evidence; it's just all assumptions that Cover is automatically doing the same things as Anycolor for no basis whatsoever

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854167
Ever heard about the Nut room?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71866360
Tell me honestly, was Riku raised in Hong Kong where they keep indentured slaves?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71867700
A good company wouldn't have created a situation where almost every single employee walked out.

The fact that they left is an indicator of how bad it was inside the company. My oshi was from NijiID, the whole thing was super depressing. You could feel her spiral into depression. FUCK Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71867891
Did they actually say that? That's pretty fucked if so. I would've thought they'd be more informed than to put that out there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71860926
>anon, its just fanmails that was sent at the main corpo's addresses, no vtubing companies care enough to read these letters unless you send it at the talents personal mailbox for their vtubing characters.
what? hololive sorts and sends fan letters to their vtubers even foreign ones
it's just niji being fucking shitty again

[Anonymous No.]

>>71864351
>>71860926
This HAS to be a larp. there's no fucking way someone is this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

We're at a point where we cant tell shitposters from actual sisters
It's that bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>71868226
yeah it's impossible to fucking tell
here at least there's a bigger chance of trolling and larping... but they say (and were saying for years) exact same shit on twitter youtube reddit and whatever so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71868099
I don't have an exact clip but I'm pretty sure I've heard them mention it before, hard to scrub through hours of streams
It's one reason I don't like either of them, they're not as informed as they present themselves to be and they're still so nijibrained they even use cultish terms like "livers" which nobody else uses
Either way, I hate that this kind of misinformation can just spread in dramafag circles, them and comments can just say whatever they want and people won't be around to correct them

I looked it up and this is probably another place where people are spreading this
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/1ary4sq/is_there_a_reason_that_nijisanji_doesnt_give/
It's right there in that top post with 461 likes
These people project their own flaws onto hololive and fake news just spreads around like wildfire

[Anonymous No.]

>>71869879
Yeah, I don't doubt it. Their edited content is well researched, but their off-the-cuff shit and streams absolutely don't hold any kind of water.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853558
This, so much this. If they really wanted it they could just ask.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71870227

[Anonymous No.]

>>71870227
Holy niji organ cope. If the corpo wanted a plaque for display they could have ordered a duplicate for themselves and still send the organ their earned button.
This is why niji intestines don't get respect, because they don't respect themselves to begin with.

[Heaven No.]

>>71868226
at the end of the day, differentiation between the two doesn't really matter that much, it's all the same anyways. And as long as people keep replying to them, they're going absolutely nowhere.

[Anonymous No.]

nijisisters...

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
if it doesn't matter then why not give it to them

[Anonymous No.]

>>71869879
Wait I don't understand. Is your problem that the claim is that they have buttons at the office at all is unfounded? How is that bad?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71873526
Because the company earned it, not just the liver. Behind every vtuber is a team of dedicated employees working to make sure they're successful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874070
>Behind every vtuber is a team of dedicated employees working to make sure they're successful

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874070
>dedicated employees working

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874070
OK so explain why it took one of them 37 hours to get permissions for IPs that they already own for something they should have already known about and apparently didn't think to bring up until it was already past the hard deadline of christmas.
Where's all that hard work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874070
Weird sentence:
Instead of saying the company ALSO earned it, not just the liver.
How do you decide who earned it more?
If they are both equally deserving, no reason they both can't have it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874070
More like behind every employee there's 5-10 underpaid, underappreciated vtubers desperately looking for management that just isn't fucking there. They didn't earn shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874297
You realize timezones are a thing, right? Sometimes, people one one side of the world are sleeping and can't jump up to help you immediately.

[Anonymous No.]

>Vezalius Bandage
still makes me lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874437
Ah yes, they were sleeping for 37 hours. Very understandable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874493
It's possible they dragged their feet, yes, but they could have also been busy with other stuff. My point is that "37 hours" is misleading, considering both parties are on opposite sides of the world and on alternating sleep schedules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874562
...It was a christmas video, anon. They knew they were getting ready for a christmas video that was flat out completed, meaning it already went through several layers of permissions and checks throughout the entire process. She only submitted it as a formality.
The fact that they couldn't be ready to receive it with consideration of the deadline shows that they were not, in fact, working or doing their jobs at all. There is no excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874437
Is the time mentioned in the posts not local to the staff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874562
>>71874437
This is not an excuse when the deadline (planned release date) was known well in advance. Staff should in a professional setting be ready to look through the last quirks a day or two before something comes out

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874562
I know you're a dumb troll but you can see in screenshot that the first message was 8:30am their time. At least try a little harder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874562
Yet they had a 24 hour deadline for livers to sign up for a voicepack project

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
kind of obvious bait, though it's fun to bite anyway.

It's the principal of the thing. If the company can be this petty about a stupid youtube play button then you can only imagine what they are like about things that actually matter. From what we know not a single talent has had the opportunity to get their own play button, youtube can send duplicates (for a price) and I'm sure at least one of those talents would have been prepared to pay for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71869879
I think you're misunderstanding what they're saying. When you earn a play button from YouTube you can pay extra to get multiple copies of it. Cover gives the talents their buttons and pays for a second one to display in their office. In FWMC's case they paid for 3 buttons, one for each of them and one for the office.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Yes honesty I agree. I formerly hated Nijisanji and watched all those YouTube videos about how they are bad but more lately I have been thinking for myself now and I realize they actually are a great company and Riku Tazumi is a great leader.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71854287
they do care. for profit, that is

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
You tell them sister!
[SPOILER]Hi Millie 0.01 Pesos have been added to your account[/spoiler]

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853010
this fucking retard.

a currently still hired member, Bonnie, hasnt streamed on his niji channel in 2 MONTHS but on his private channel tenjin instead. literally could not wait to quit, just skipped out. hasnt even tweeted since december last year.

so deficient in neurons that you'd be hunted by spongebob you nit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
KEK.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
Should have been /thread but w/e
>>71852471
>the money behind them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.]

>>71866244
>I rarely say this
(You) should say it more often, the board is absolutely chock full of retards, it's hard to find anyone with two brain cells to rub together

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853383
>it doesn't matter that the company abuses the talents and does fucking nothing useful for them
>the talents need the company
kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853558
>I think this kind of measure is taken because if silver buttons are sent by mail, there is a possibility of identity theft.
>Japanese lifers go to the office every week and month
Holy shit. This retard literally cannot understand the concept of physically handing an object to someone.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
>Who does it hurt?
their reputation

[Anonymous No.]

>>71883016
nice bump retard kys

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
Who the fuck named this faggot bandage?

[Anonymous No.]

Niji organs

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
I know it's bait but is there a single good reason they should not receive something everyone else in the industry gets for their milestones?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
I'm still kinda baffled by this sentiment from niji until I remember that it's exactly how they want it to be, because they don't want their organs to think they're successful on their own, they want them to think niji is the sole reason they made, not their hard work, not their effort and commitment, nothing. Nijisanji wants their organs to engrave themselves with this and they've succesfully done it

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
>t. riku

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
I don't really care, but it's not my play button. I'm just a viewer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
2 confirmed people left the company because they werent allowed their play button

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
>who does it hurt
yeah thats right, Nijisanji talents are all who's

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852162
It would not hurt the black corpo to give it to the organs to raise the morale
Your argument is fucking retarded sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>71862345
>>71862410
/haha/ yeah, those NEVER leave /haha/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71853057
They use to give brand recognition and that was good enough, but the fact that they are now a stain on your resumé now means they give you nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71892720
Even before that, the exposure wasn't great though?
Their latest EN wave was struggling to get a 2-300 subs a day and maybe 3 finanas which isn't really any better than smaller corpos or big indies. I suppose having like a 50k sub count at the beginning is nice but it didn't seem to translate into growing faster. Brand recognition doesn't seem to mean much.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71866244
>3 livers every 4 months to save the company's face.
source?

[Anonymous No.]

>>71874297
Oh no no no, they fucking KNEW anon.
If you look at the timeline of events you'll understand that it was DELIBERATE sabotage -
> Selen does final internal check for MV at 8am JST on 24th. Everything should be cool by now since it's been 1 year of ironing things out, and Selen already told them she wanted to put this out by Christmas at least (sauce : https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=bjAgCErx8tg, 59:15).
> No response for 36 hours, Selen assumes everything's cool and there's nothing else, puts up waiting room for the cover at 9pm JST on 25th because as she told them already, she wants this out by Christmas.
> Management contacts her 30 minutes AFTER the waiting room goes up (9:28pm JST on 25th) about potential issues with ex-livers being on the MV - which is bullshit, as many other songs with ex-livers have proven, and these livers were still in Nijisanji when the MV was originally made - but it doesn't matter, they are now aware of the waiting room.
> Premiere is schedued for 10am JST on 26th (https://vrabi.net/video/FUVX8ROaCgA).). For 12 and a half hours, management knows about the upcoming premiere but DOESN'T take down the waiting room for it.
> Selen does an afterparty stream lasts from 10:30am to 12:03pm JST (https://vrabi.net/video/bjAgCErx8tg).).
> Right after this stream ends, they tell her about the issue (12:25pm JST) take the cover down (12:30pm JST).
Selen talked about the entire thing ON-STREAM for 1 and a half hours for EVERYONE to listen, they were aware of the waiting room and everything yet they waited right up until she ended her stream to private it.
Look at this shit and tell me that isn't intentional sabotage.

[Anonymous No.]

It's pretty clear most people in this board don't have and never had a job. Livers are privileged to have this kind of job security and environment, normal jobs are way worse. This is why people like Claude are incredibly grateful and don't bend the knee to drama stirrers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71897528
Anyone with half a brain can figure that out.
The people defending management are not doing it out of a sense of justice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852658
It's only women that don't know how to use pills and half ass it, anyone that's even half a man is smart enough to down a bottle of ativan then a bottle of jack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>71897679
i don't what kind of job brainwashed you like that anon, but i suggest you search for something better lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>71852245
Damn

[Anonymous No.]

>>71897679
Ah yes 4chan my favorite pakistani goat herding forum

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>>71897679
privileged to have this kind of job security and environment
>said "job security" involves not being allowed to quit
>said "environment" makes half of them want to kill themselves
Retard what kind of job do you work that these are good things?

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>>71897528
God, I dislike them so much.

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>>71897679
Yes the contract is very generous compared to average contract in Pakistan

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>>71900879
Next they'll say "Hey, here in Ethiopia that contract would be heaven! There's no clause about shooting your family if you leave!"

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I have to do some mental gymnastics to understand why no liver is allowed to pay management for a duplicate play button. The most favorable read I can get is that management refuses to pay for duplicates themselves and won't allow talents to pony up the cost because there is a disparity between livers earnings; the successful ones wouldn't think twice about a $200 bill to own it and do their own pictures of it for fans but the ones who have to actually work a second job would be discouraged from the price. Further it would look extra shitty for people to comment about how cheap the company was for not paying for the duplicate itself so they just decided outright that no one gets them and no one can ask for them. It's equally shit, no one misses out.

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>>71905414
Yeah, but it still falls apart when you compare it to all of the other merit-based things at nijisanji, like outfit vouchers or 3D which were supposed to be awarded at certain milestones or raffles. (Although I hear that was removed and based on Niji's discretion now)

The whole company structure feels like a MLM/pyramid scheme designed to keep everybody constantly fighting over whatever scraps of benefits they can find, which ends up causing the same issues in every branch due to lack of any actual universal support or oversight.

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>>71876952
I'm not misunderstanding anything
>and pays for a second one to display in their office.
>In FWMC's case they paid for 3 buttons, one for each of them and one for the office.
Where's your source for any of this? This is exactly the claim I'm talking about

>>71874056
Yes the claim is unfounded, if it's true then it's not necessarily bad by itself depending on how it's handled
What's bad is that people are using this to generalize about Cover and other agencies, saying "this is industry standard and hololive does it too" without evidence
It's also a practice that can easily be taken the wrong way in so many ways so it's subjectively bad

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when a vtuber gets fired from other corporations, do they have to hand back the play button since they no longer own the character?

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>>71906085
Honestly, it'd be weirder if they didn't have an extra copy for themselves. It's not exactly expensive, and a hall of buttons does sound like a good idea, as long as they're not the only ones in existence.
For now though, the only thing we can confirm is that they purchased an extra button for Fuwamoco with apparently no cost to them, and then shipped both.
Hilariously, both are labeled FuwaMoco instead of Fuwawa and Mococo, so it's implied there's 4 of them.

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>>71852162
Jannies allowing shit falseflag threads like this deserve having to deal with the unending AI bot spam that will come with the elections in the fall.
Change out the moderation staff, Hiro. Save this site.

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>>71906374
>the only thing we can confirm is that they purchased an extra button for Fuwamoco with apparently no cost to them, and then shipped both.
This is true and a wonderful symbolic thing of hololive to do, really shows the kind of attitude they have towards their talents and is a great role model for other vtuber agencies

>Honestly, it'd be weirder if they didn't have an extra copy for themselves. It's not exactly expensive, and a hall of buttons does sound like a good idea, as long as they're not the only ones in existence.
Again it's subjective, but I disagree and I think it's a bad look

Cover is more about celebrating the talents themselves than their numbers, and a play button is an inherently numberfaggy way to celebrate their achievements; it'll make the office look more like it cares about numbers and more like a hallway for shareholder meeting invitations than a show of support and pride for the talents
Also what about if there are talents who fall below the numbers for a play button? Or what about talents with more than one play button? Are you going to put both of them on the wall, while others without enough numbers get none? What are the talents themselves going to feel if they take a look at the wall and see it like some kind of comparison board?

This is just not the way Cover does things, not the way they think about their talents, and not the type of image they try to have
It makes more sense to celebrate the achievements of your talents through little symbolic memorabilia like album covers or event posters or the little fan-made takos Yagoo keeps on his desk that he was gifted by a fan at a convention one time, and I assume (and hope) this is the way they style their office and studios in general
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7WXJxvenUk

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>>71859373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztXZTKQohA
Now listen to her song about it.

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>>71852162
have you considered killing yourself?

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>>71907597
I listen to this song every time a graduation occurs and every time it just hits harder and harder