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hes digging this past drama that should be buried and left untouched since holo compared since is very different to holo right now

>> No.71263534

>>71263446
its like people ask him to look into it lmao.

>> No.71263576

don't care, let him talk about it, we are not nijiniggers.

>> No.71263635

>>71263446
Just let the tourist do their history reps.
Everyone should learn why we support Hololive instead of NijiCCP

>> No.71263706

>>71263446
Nothing wrong with revealing how garbage wolf warrior faggots are.

>> No.71263769

>>71263446
As side note, I dislike him for calling Vtuber a liver.
He really need to stop doing that.

>> No.71263887

>>71263769
too much niji drama reviewing kek

>> No.71264089

>>71263446
>other fellow livers cries on stream for somebody leaving
you will never see kurosanji livers do this can you imagine kanae or kazuha leaving kurosanji and other livers be like
>"nooooo *sob*sob dont gooooo"

>> No.71264173

>>71263446
He's a western man so he'll have the same opinion as most got to in time.
If anything he should follow up with more CN/B2 contractual troubles.

>> No.71264314

>>71263446
Let him, it is no secret and defined hololive as a whole and you newfags might get a better understanding for things

>> No.71264519

>>71263769
Did you forget the part where he read the Niji contract and automatically assumed the clause for Vtuber conflicts explicitly only meant internal ones, because Vtubers is Niji's term?
He's a fucking clown. He gave us some insight into the madness that was their contract but that's it.

>> No.71264631

>>71263446
He literally said Cover learned their lesson. Fuck's sake how are Holobronies this soft?

>> No.71264671

>>71263446
He'll end up picking up the Yakuza series, good for him.

>> No.71264722
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71264722

Phasefags strike again
Just so you know who shitposts around here.

>> No.71264781

>>71264722
phasenigs have been raiding him with shilling relentlessly, can't tell if they're hardcore fandrones or stealth marketers

>> No.71264813

>>71264722
does this faggot ever close his mouth?

>> No.71264817

>>71263446
Chinks still attack hololive because of that years later
>buried
lm fucking ao

>> No.71265027

>>71264722
What a faggot, i really hope he is false flagging. I like Holo and Phase and i would shove 5 Pankos up his ass until he shuts up forever.

>> No.71265101

>>71263446
Clicks into his stream
He's advocating to move the US branch from California to another state if they try to make Cover woke
Jesus who is this grifter

>> No.71265515
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71265515

Reminder that Hololive put Coco in Oidashibeya, blocking her collabs with holoEN, other gens in holoJP and even give an anti a mod status that end up with him banning most of her members and Coco finally breaking and crying on stream, only after she signed up her renounce, they fixed her mod problem, let her collab with HoloEN and other JPs, they even give her another outfit that was the Barney one and let her have a proper graduation.

They pretty much forced her to graduate and this has been confirmed by K-son multiple times, she had a really bad relationship with the upper management after the Taiwan drama.

>> No.71265760

>>71265515
>this has been confirmed by K-son multiple times
Can you link some of these multiple times she said this

>> No.71265813

>>71263769
kek

>> No.71266482

>>71263446
I hope he'll look into Iron lung's past. That's the most guarded secret /here/ - can't believe I've visited this board for a year without even seeing it.

>> No.71267122

>>71263446
I hate Coco and her bullshit, so i dont really care. You fags wanted EN culture, then have it. I hope we see more reports on vtuber drama. Get fucked.

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>>71264519
>because Vtubers is Niji's term?
The way Niji defined the term in the contract itself, it was.

>> No.71267343

>>71264519
He did that because that is literally how the contract defined the term VTuber -- as someone working for Nijisanji. He's 100% correct on his interpretation there because Niji fucked up the definition, and those definitions are how legal bodies interpret the documents.

>> No.71267749

>>71264722
The secret is that it's always been Phasefags, they just false flag too.

>> No.71267809

>>71265760
NTA. I don't think she ever discussed this as Kson.

As Coco, she did criticize management some for tamping down hard on some of her activities like Asacoco, because they were petrified she would get them into another yab (despite the whole Taiwan thing not being her fault in the first place). I think (but this is speaking from memory) that she also said that she could only use Holofan created memes for Reddit meme review because they felt she needed "permissions" to use common/normal memes, which also irked her.

Basically, a lot of the stuff she liked to do was slowly being cut off, which was a principal reason for her making the decision to leave. She was getting frustrated at not being able to do the things she liked to do and was an increasingly poor fit for Hololive.

The stuff about being banned from collabing with HoloJP is BS, she had several collabs with them after her return. She was banned from collabing with HoloEN, but to this day we don't know who was responsible for it; Cover corporate, Coco's personal manager, or Omega & friends, though most people seem to have settled on blaming Omega. Again, I'm speaking from memory, but I believe Kiara at one point said she wanted to collaborate with Coco but was disallowed.

Overall, the claims of her being forced to graduate are at best a very murky issue. Both Fubuki and Yagoo reportedly made serious attempts to convince her to stay and her co-workers were all clearly grieved at her departure. Compare her leaving to Rushia's.

>> No.71267937

>>71265515
You forgot how they cut down on her Hologra appearances and shot down her project ideas.

>> No.71268151
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71268151

Nice viewers you got there, totally not biased

>> No.71268380

>>71263446
Meh I saw parts of the stream and he basically skipped past through a lot and just basically said that everyone was in a bad spot and decisions had to be made.

He didn't skip on the HoloCN part though. Called Artia a snake and stuff.

I saw the comments and goddamn it was pure Phase lovers. Donating with messages like "This is why I don't like Vtuber corpos. Only Phase is good."

>> No.71268504

>>71266482
Wait... none of big dramatuber ever talk about it?

>> No.71268606

>>71263769
Send him a Supa to clarify.

>> No.71268609

>People are still falling for the grift

>> No.71268701

>>71264813
He's probably reading the super chat.

>> No.71268704

This faggot literally just regurgitates shit he thinks people want to hear, and because that includes shitting on Nijisanji the resident troglodytes /here/ eat it up.

>> No.71268752

>>71264722
Suprise suprise.

>> No.71268768

>>71266482
It gets nuked by jannies even though it’s shit she has said herself.

>> No.71268877

>>71264089
yes.
because they know niji wont survive without them. its a cry of desperation

>> No.71268893

>>71267809
Just to add. The banishment room theory is fairly probable, but it's hard to say how deep this actually went.

In terms of personality, behind her brash attitude as Coco/kson, she is actually a very empathetic and introverted person, who hates to be a bother to people. So I can imagine that she partly also isolated herself on her own accord.
It's really hard to say, because she's also fairly professional in what she says.

There was some remarks in an Resident Evil stream on twitch where she fairly directly said that , some people who knew exactly what she did and who's job was to be on her side, still chose to side with the false narrative. Which hints at some people in hololive management being against her. But it always feels like top management (Cover) was on her side. Which would explain why HoloCN was disbanded, rather than throwing Coco out.

Personally I also think that Hololive might have had a lot of Chinese staff, which could have influenced this. At least in the company I work for we have a good amount of Chinese expats in our Japanese office, because they are often good at Japanese and also decent enough in English (at least better than a lot of Japanese engineers), so people like these would be perfect candidates for positions in hololive EN + as people who worked with hololiveCN from headquarters.

But it's hard to say. She seems to still like Yagoo, the talents and the brand and is still buying hololive merch. So her problems aren't with the whole company but rather some people working there.

>> No.71269336

>>71264722
I love this horsegirl

>> No.71269631

>>71264089
Except for the fact it has happened before you are correct!

>> No.71269938

>>71267809
You have poor memory my dude. Asacoco was something she dropped herself, due to the tool on her health. She did all the work on it - writing, editing, recording - it took hours, and then had to wake up at 4 or 5AM to air it. It was exhausting. Cover did indeed made her cut on her more edgy content like the drugs and stuff, but not because they where afraid of yab's, but simply because they grew enough for YouTube to pay attention to them, and started to get hit with demonetizations - Choco, Aki and Hachama all have secondary channels, specifically because they had their channels demonetized by YouTube. So Cover took measures, and Holo became more PG friendly in that period to avoid further demonetizations. As for the memes, she couldn't show those that had copyrighted material, due to obvious reasons. She was frustrated by the creative restrictions, but those would have solved in time, as Hololive ended up becoming to big for YouTube to demonetize them for petty reasons, and more edgy content returned.
There are many reason why Coco chose to leave - but I think the main one was money. Kson is very profit driven. And she was always frustrated about how much she losses. There is a YouTube cut, and a Cover cut, and then she needs to pay half in taxes in Japan, and also taxes in America, because in US a billionaire can pay no tax at all, but a US citizen working and living in another country still needs to pay taxes in US, because... freedom. Kson was even bitching about getting just a 50% cut of the merch sales - when that is likely one of the best revenue shares in the whole of Japanese entertainment industry. So yeah, generating 3.5 million in SC's, and getting maybe less than 800k after all the cuts and taxes, was definitely a deal breaker for her, and she felt she was better as indie.

>> No.71270102

>>71268893
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eykn1JYNOaE&list=PLRHWguSkZgfK_l6PEY-u7HRFFRtEIzgdw&index=6

>> No.71270113

>>71269938
hang yourself chimp
you know nothing about her

>> No.71270154

>>71263446
told you faggots this cunt was bad news

>> No.71270292

>>71270154
>someone told him to watch the ant hime videos on froot
>his stream partner supported that
I'd like to see the resulting shitstorm from that if he ever makes a video on it not that he will, regardless of froot, the ant chick is a schizo

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71270351

I will never forgive the West Taiwanese. Nor the people that side with them in any way shape or form

>> No.71270363

>>71264722
phase fags are a cancer on vtubing

>> No.71270429

>No A-Chan
>No Ui-Mama
>No Smol Ame
>No Mikodanye

They definately didnt get everyone

>> No.71270448

>>71270292
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXRHToTzOuY&t=143s

>> No.71270547

>>71270113
Not that guy but he's right, you got your timelines mixed up, she cancelled her Asacoco thing way before the Taiwan drama
She had already declined into a aimless streamer by that point, the China yab was really the best thing to happen to her, without it she would have just reclined into a mediocre Hololive hasbeen

>> No.71270549

>>71270292
I hope he calls False to clarify and False tells him the truth

>> No.71270610

>>71264519
Plebs who haven't passed the bar should stfu or lurk 10000000000000 years when legal are talking

>> No.71270629

>>71270547
hang yourself as well, chimp #2

>> No.71270644

>>71270448
>>71270549
Yeah, like that, her videos had some stuff, but it was buried between doxx and schizo shit.

>> No.71270708

>>71270629
do facts upset you?

>> No.71270752

>froot
A reminder that the regiment lives on.

>> No.71270758

>>71270644
>her videos had some stuff
Yeah like the edited screenshot that removed the broadcaster icon showing that froot was talking to her own chat and not silver's

>> No.71270798

>>71270708
there's several asacoco episodes after the taiwan bullshit, before they made her stop

>> No.71270801

>>71270547
>she cancelled her Asacoco thing way before the Taiwan drama
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw58RgSzDmjrvACj0KUu2emYJPp-CLtTN
liar

>> No.71270816

>>71270758
>what is schizo shit

>> No.71270976

>>71270798
>>71270801
She stopped doing them regularly then, which was for two reasons (not allowed to make edgy jokes and too much work)
Nothing changed about this after Taiwan

>> No.71271164

>>71270976
another lie. they happened regularly every monday, wednesday, and friday

>> No.71271212

>>71270976
>then

>> No.71271328

>>71263446
idk what you were expecting when you hyped up a dramafaggot so much. You gave him views for it when it was happening to niji, now he's chasing the views you guys showed he could get. Good job (kys).

>> No.71271337

>>71271164
no they didnt, she dropped it several times, thats why it says "3.0" on that playlist

>> No.71271486

>>71270363
vtubin in itself is cancer

>> No.71271553

Wow, the people who really hate dramafags and dramathreads are really giving a lot of (You)s to drama

>> No.71271632

>>71271553
It's all the Paki and ESL sis.
That stream was pretty much nothing for non tourist.
And actually he got some things wrong too.

>> No.71271665

>>71263446
Godwinson was a hero when he trolled that faggot Gator.

>> No.71272011

>>71271337
you shouldn't have said anything if you don't know what you're talking about. allow me to educate you.

asascoco 1.0: ran every weekday from debut until management got pissy in june
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw58RgSzDmjr7hbo0zrfaQ027uMc6WHfO

asacoco 2.0: the same show with more managerial oversight (allegedly). started immediately after 1.0 and ran until july where it was put on hiatus for "summer break" because coco was overworked and needed a break. the comeback was then delayed because hololive was not doing great and she didn't want to report on news when there wasn't any fun news (the holocaust happened in the middle of that break and then the aloe suspension and graduation followed shortly after)
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw58RgSzDmjo2vyCbQinleQXKUyewSO9O

asacoco 3.0: schedule changed to mon/weds/fri instead of every weekday and ran until management banned the show
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLw58RgSzDmjrvACj0KUu2emYJPp-CLtTN

there was one singular break of coco's own volition during july and august 2020. the show was never cancelled until management killed it in november. she did not "drop it several times" or even one time.

>> No.71272043

>>71271553
better than giving the actual faggot my view

>> No.71272068

>>71271553
>PLEASE stop being mean to us >:(

>> No.71272283

The actual good end with this guy is if he gains just enough permanent clout that small corpo chuubas believe they can play whistleblower with him safely. False sorta serves that role, but has no authority in the field of legality.

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