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7122625 No.7122625 [Reply] [Original]

The appeal of vtubers was the combination of cute and cool anime avatars combined with the humanity behind it. The humanity behind would show itself best when the girls were allowed to have fun, relax, and be themselves. By sanitizing and monitering the content as well as making it more child friendly they are slowly ripping the soul out of their own appeal.

>> No.7122668

>>7122625
Okay

>> No.7122724

I agree, but it's not like we could do anything to make them change.

>> No.7122745

>>7122625
humanity, fragments of the dark soul..

>> No.7122816

what happened?

>> No.7122842

cover is currently trying to come up with what the fuck they want to do, they are carried heavily by their talents and thanks to them, they don't focus on quality assurance for everything else

>> No.7122868

I think this more has to do with youtube than cover desu... Isn't cover a technology company? at this point cant they just make their own streaming platform for vtubers or are they just using youtube streaming for the free advertisement via youtube algo?

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>>7122625

>> No.7122902

>>7122868
A ""tech"" startup from Japan means so little

>> No.7123057

More like they're trying to limit anything that can get them in trouble with Youtube.
They know that there are thousands of antis that will report their videos if there's even a hint of something that can get them in trouble.
It's also not as though other companies don't have restrictions too, Cover is just particularly scared after the Taiwan stuff.

>> No.7123083

>>7122625
>Hololive
Old
>Nijisanji
Busted

Take the PRISM pill

>> No.7123140

>>7123083
how's that company i never heard of before any better?

>> No.7123147

Oh, some content creator got big and now have to sanitize their shit because of advertisers and sponsorships, upsetting old fans. In other news water is wet.

>> No.7123201

>>7123147
... trigger-happy antis and behind-the-times companies, too. Ain't a new phenomenon.

>> No.7123218

Eventually Hololive may just be a parody of what originally made it appealing.

>> No.7123338

>>7122625
Hololive's management is incredibly incompetent and they seem to value nepotism over skill for their support teams.

We already know that the girls at hololive have to do their own things, make their own content, contact the right people for songs and music videos, they have to get permissions for games themselves, they have to control and mod their own chat and etc etc. Then we know the management stops them from doing most things they want to do, they can have their planned projects shot down for no reason at all. In the end Cover's fear of getting into trouble AND combined with their incompetence and lack of skill in handling the problems that crop up always snowballs into bigger problems down the road. The girls are the stars and talent carrying the company but it seems they're going to get the life choked out of them over time.

>> No.7123465

>>7122868
Anon, if you aren't joking / baiting, Nissin's streaming platform crashed badly at the beginning of Aqua's concert because of heavy traffic. Now imagine similar level of traffic, times a dozen (or dozens) during peak hour. There is no way Cover can handle the infrastructure for that to begin with, much less other technical issues

>> No.7123517

>>7122874
based

>> No.7123568

>>7122625
congrats you dont know how entertainment industry works

>> No.7123584

>>7122625
((((They)))) are trying to censor Japan, Hololive is one of the target
>kikkerikii
>kikke
>kike
((((They)))) are here

>> No.7123633

>>7122625
>The appeal of vtubers was the combination of cute and cool anime avatars combined with the humanity behind it. The humanity behind would show itself best when the girls were allowed to have fun, relax, and be themselves.
Like the Niji and Vshojo collab, right?
>>7122093

>> No.7123787

>>7123338
>do their own things, make their own content, contact the right people for songs and music videos, they have to get permissions for games themselves
pure BS lmao

The only thing that the management does that hinders them are filtering contents to pass as standard ad friendly.

>> No.7123876

>>7123633
Anyone who doesn't recognize the soul in that fucking fun collab is a corpo cocksucking holobrony.

>> No.7123949

>>7123057
It was happening before that, permissions-arc started because rabid nijinigger tribalists were mass reporting literally everything. That's why all last spring/summer was nothing but chillas art and browser kusoge

>> No.7123965

>>7123633
That's just lack of preperation

>> No.7124003

>>7122625
Kadokawa's talking about how the manga industry needs to stop showing less sexually explicit stuff in their magazines so as not to anger Apple and Google. Credit card companies have prevented Japanese from buying things wit "objectional" titles. Face it, the whole world is now being forced to bend to the moral puritanism of a few western companies.

>> No.7124012

>>7122625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NasyGUeNMTs
It was always corporate monitored kayfabe.
Now seethe, cope and dilate.

>> No.7124048

>>7123876
Breh you can't start the revisionism that soon at least wait until the initial threads die down

>> No.7124124

>>7122625
when will NijiEN and NijiJP collab?

>> No.7124246

>>7123338
>they seem to value nepotism over skill for their support teams
Welcome to every company. A friend works for a large defense contractor and despite the fact he's about to graduate college with an engineering degree his boss is some bartender in early 20s with no manufacturing or engineering experience but hired on and put in a good position with a good salary because one of the higher ups in the company is fucking her.

Talent and skill has always meant less than nepotism.

>> No.7124264

>>7123949
It was amazing how Capcom let Niji playthroughs of their crap slide even though they didn't secure permissions until later, but retroactively struck Mio for the same sin.

>> No.7124333

>7124124
No (you) for you, they already collabed a couple of times baitfag.

>> No.7124341

>>7124264
The benefit of being a company run by a guy with a rich uncle in the construction business which likely means said uncle also has organized crime ties.

>> No.7124399

>>7123949
That's true, the permissions scare was the first major problem I can think of that Cover faced.
I think Mio's channel is now like 1 strike away from being banned because of 2 of her ghost trick streams getting strikes.
I think last summer was also when they got rid of the swimsuits too out of fear that Youtube wouldn't like them.

>> No.7124449

>>7122625
Are you mentally disabled?

This is why vshojo fans shouldnt be considered human

>> No.7124482

>>7122902
That goes for anywhere in the world

>> No.7124506

>>7123147
WATER ISN'T FUCKING WET IT HAS THE EFFECT OF MAKING OTHER THINGS WET

>> No.7124637

>>7124399
Mio's strikes have worn off (90 days), so there's that. Swimsuits are out only because YT is fucking retarded and there is a pretty good chance multiple Holomem wouls get demonitized over it and people reporting them, even if it's not against TOS.

>> No.7124653

>>7122816
Nothing, schizo is gonna schizo

>> No.7124688

>>7124341
Then again you can't really blame the company for being competent and leveraging its connections. The problem's with tribalist fans who were content to settle for mocking the upstart back when they were in a superior position, but decided to start a campaign of harassment once the small agency grew into a rival.

>> No.7124689

>>7123876
>Everything garbage
>SOUL
Buzzewords buzzewords, neck yourself.

>> No.7124735

>>7124637
Mass privating was necessary at the time because after two strikes on Mio, another strike on any of the holos from any other dev within 90 days ran the risk of every holo getting their channel demonetized because they're all under the hololive network. They couldn't risk that.

>> No.7124838

>>7124653
To be fair to schizo, the live censoring Ame on her opinion on the hair in the new Guardians of the Galaxy game, and making her say it looked good put a real bad goddamn taste in my mouth about Covers management of their talents

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>>7122625
This is why vshojo fans and anituber fans deserve all the mockery on /vt/.
If you think a vtuber is merely a human with an avatar, kindly go fuck off to ironic vtubers like Pokimane or Pewdiepie or twich thots with an avatar. This is like thinking wearing a uniform makes you a soldier.

A vtuber's strongest appeal is that she is an anime character. The most popular girls like Pekora or Miko did not get there with just an avatar. They find their own unique characters and then stick to them. And of course they have their own human side, like how every soldier is also a human, which makes them fascinating. But they must also do their main jobs well. I can see anime characters acting just like Pekora or Miko. I can not see any anime characters acting like the ironic vtubers who have no passion or understanding of the culture but just want to get on the popularity bandwagon.

>> No.7125008

All this thread reeks of cow thread

>> No.7125014

>>7124963
That's not what was being talked about at all.

>> No.7125211

>>7124963
So
>not anime = shit

>> No.7125270

>>7124838
Do you have a source on this because that sounds like a really good way to make me mad.

>> No.7125342

>>7125211
Let's be real, people didn't come to anime waifus if they weren't somehow superior. Otherwise you never understood waifu culture.

>> No.7125468

>>7125270
Obviously not. This is a shit thread

>> No.7125542

>>7125270
Right next to my clip of Gura talking about crying on how she can't talk about all the dicks she's eaten, oh wait, IT DOESN'T FUCKING EXIST

>> No.7125603

At least this thread still have oldfags that remember the holos were being demonitized for being lewd and random shit. Some nijiniggers were harassing korone for permissions because she plays a lot of retro games. I remember some comments like did you get permissions from nintendo for this stream like niji? Holos always get targeted, they really have it rough.

>> No.7125662

>>7123876
>the soul
When I hear "THE SOUL" argument, I always remember Russian rock. It's garbage, but гoвнapи (Russian rock retarded fans) always say "western rock is shit and Russian rock has THE SOUL" because they can't find anything objectively good as argument.

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7125718

>>7123584

Mel Brooks laughs at you

>> No.7126267

>>7122625
good thing they haven't done all that much sanitizing, huh rrat.
>haato still pretending to be a schizo for the /b/tards
>ame/kiara still swearing up a storm when they inevitably rage at whatever they're playing
>kaliope still being a gigantic dork during the 5% of her time spent on her job
>watame still the lamb of god who saviorfags for her viewers
>marine still horny, noel still thirsting for flare and shotas, rushia still a board
>subaru still quacking you up pretending to be "police" while wearing shorts designed for easy panty access
>nene and polka still insane
>lamy still drunk, botan still a gopnik
>ollie still obnoxious
we've lost bikini mode streams. oh, and one annoying bitch that vshojo modelled their level of conduct on who ended up with zhangs hating her for no reason. that's it.
cover is, however, inept. just not in the way you think they are.
>>7123584
>>>/pol/

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>>7125603
>korone being harassed
Another example not a lot of people noticed was Polka playing 428. Concernfagging antis would harass her pointing out all those other streamers from niji were playing it with monetization off, even though Cover managed to get full permissions for this. It turned her off the game because they'd be trying to get her mood down every stream.

>> No.7126672

>>7122745
The furtive pygmy, so easily forgotten...

>> No.7126700

>>7124003
>bending to moral puritanism
so close and yet so far.

>> No.7126998

>>7122724
Any group suffers from the normie problem, even the outsider groups like 4chan. The vtuber normie audience are responsible for destroying what they like by being okay with mediocrity, because that is the best a normie can achieve. They keep paying and throwing money at garbage.
Yes, anyone who gives money to these thots is a normie.
The authentic person must always avoid things that get corrupted and move on to greener pastures.
Vtubers are background noise for me. That is their only real function. Anything else makes you a loser.

>> No.7128263

>>7126267
Based.

The loss of bikinis is still the gravest sin, I'll never forget the Japanese!

>> No.7128269

>>7126998
Greener pastures? Literally touch grass. You're in a delusion of grandeur which no one cares about.

>> No.7128284

>>7128263
Forgive, tho I guess forget works as well.

>> No.7129859

>>7125211
precisely

>> No.7132519

>>7122625
Are you just finding out about this?

>> No.7133169

>>7126998
>nooo cover isn't allowing these girls to be themselves and show their great personalities!!
>nooo stop throwing money at these thots, they'll get complacent and show their mediocre personalities!!

>> No.7133993

>>7125342
Bro i couldnt give less of a shit if they act like anime characters or not. If they look cool and sound cool and do cool shit then i like them. Is that a bad thing bros?

>> No.7135323

>>7122625
Amerimutts like you literally always try to falsely accuse Japanese of but in reality, literally and factually, 99% of prudish and strict moral standards are forced by your Amerimutt Big tech, publishers, and media.

This is why your Mutt entertainment went to utter fucking shit. You literally try to hide your own dire situation and every dark side of garbage woke ideology. All you can do is bury your heads in the sand, desperately find out your virtual enemy that can fit your woke narrative, dogma, and delusion, and bitch about Japanese to make them look inferior to something American, ignoring the authoritarian sides of woke ideology and your own censorship-driven entertainment and platforms. Name your entertainment or media or platform that isnt polluted by woke ideology. You cant. Japanese arent your friends. You should know your friends are Chinks. Good luck with them..

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>> No.7139868

>>7122625
They're women what a fuck are you talking about, are you some kind of feminist?

>> No.7140020

>>7123147
>Oh, some content creator got big and now have to sanitize their shit because of advertisers and sponsorships, upsetting old fans. In other news water is wet.
This^. Yet, Cover could’ve refused to change.

>> No.7140142

>>7140020
>Cover could have refused to change
not how the real world works kiddo. you'll understand when you're older

>> No.7140176

>>7124012
Even this shit has more character than whatever Hololive is putting out these days.

>> No.7140217

Cover is like Apple, they can do the bare minimum and coast on brand recognition. They have no incentive to improve.

>> No.7140307

>>7124963
You will never be Japanese.

>> No.7140341

>>7124506
Tell this retard anon tell em

>> No.7140369

>>7126998
>>>/pol/

>> No.7140391

>>7129859
YWNBJ

>> No.7140422

>>7135323
>>>/pol/

>> No.7140495

>>7140176
>Kizuna Ai
>character
LMAO go fucking jump in a furnace you fucking piece of shit faggot. Her time has come and gone and I wish she never existed. Off yourself with Kizuna.

>> No.7140523

>>7124506
And you can't make the ladies wet.

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>>7140523
Don't remind me...

>> No.7142170

>>7122625
hello veibae, how much cock have you swallowed today?

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7144658

>>7140495

>> No.7144743

>>7125270
Yeah is in the same channel with the video of Pekora slapping Miko in front of Yagoo

>> No.7145480

>>7122625
You're just finding this out?

>> No.7145557

>>7124506
but water is touching water and if water can make things wet it can make water wet too.

>> No.7145576

>>7122625
I liked it being family friendly, I was able to watch Gura with my daughter. I had to stop watching her because the stupid bitch began swearing more often for no reason. It's like she read people were making fun of her for being child friendly so she started trying to be edgy. You're right that Cover doesn't know what they're doing, they don't keep their talents in line.

>> No.7145990

>>7122625
Who exactly is being sanitized? Marine? Haachama? Kiara? Choco? Matsuri? Who is that mysterious Hololive vtuber who used to be a degenerate but is now a family friendly character?

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