/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

The Japanese have started to pick up and report on Luca's situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odDQ6uy61kI

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
NIJI BURN NIPPON IS GONNA KILL ANY KARA

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
Wait, what did he do this time?

[Anonymous No.]

Literally untouchable. Luca's a protectee of a member of the board of directors. Before I was confident Luca was getting the boot eventually once the dust had settled because he fucked up REALLY good.
But now with this new information, I am thinking that it's unlikely he's being terminated any time soon, first they'd have to deal with Harry to remove Luca's protection.

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>>70894447
it's this one I think >>70831955

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>>70893950
>>/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=Dr.+Phil
Still waiting for "Dr. Phil" to explain to us why he knows more about how Japanese contracts work than actual Japs because he talked to a lawyer and read an entertainment contract before.

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>>70894716
WTF, how is he still in the company.
So all the favoritism shit is true huh?

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>>70894721
As much as you want to deflect, Selen has at least admitted in the past she couldn't have an assistant. So unless Luca's contract is different (and that would be fucked up for this specific thing), he broke contract.

Not to mention the numerous proven NDA breaches.

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>>70894525
He is Yoshitaka's protectee, so even if they got rid of Harry, he would still have Yoshitaka's protection.

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>>70894968
The template contract said you can’t have an assistant unless the company approves it. Luca’s mod said that the company didn’t know of her activities outside of being a mod though.

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>>70893950
japs are all about muh rules so this doesn't bode well

[Anonymous No.]

>>70894968
Who's deflecting? I am just venting about some niggerfaggot /here/.

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>>70895476
Correct. So I think it's safe to assume his contract and Selen's contract had the same clause of no assistants. Looking at picrel too, apparently Luca said he was commissioning her instead of employing her as well so if caught he might be able to explain it away.

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>>70894721
You do realize that to the normie chuba enjoyer that your arguments come off as bad faith and unreasonable, right? The only people you're discrediting is yourselves.

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>>70893950
Nijisanji Family !

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>>70895798
This ties in with a theory that I came up with some minutes ago: >>70895864

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>>70896109
Raz herself admitted that she didn't sign anything and management didn't know about her outside of mod activities. These are just confirmations.

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>>70893950
The creepy old men management were the biggest Lucucks after all!

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>>70896185
I know, I was giving an explanation about why Luca is still not suspended despite the leaks showing that what he was doing goes against the contract.

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>>70895798
Is there any legal distinction between commissioning and contracting out assistance duties if the work done is essentially the same?

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>>70894968
isnt your manager supposed to assist you...?

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>>70896301
For example the contract doesn't let third parties to use the vtuber's accounts, so while you can commission someone to create assets for your streams, you can't commission someone to play as you in Minecraft. This would instead be considered as being assisted, which again, is prohibited by the contract.

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>>70896589
Leaked contact template doesn't include anything saying managers help you with anything. They just collect your money and then forwards you your cut of it.

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>>70896654
The contract states that matters ancillary or related to vtuber activities may not be subcontracted. This would include managing a schedule, being a go-between and a springboard for ideas, things that Selen would have liked to have had and things Luca effectively had. My question was entirely focussed on the language though. Even if you commission something, you are entering a contract between yourself and the other party. I don't believe you can get around the subcontracting clause by using evasive language and call it a commission or yard work

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>>70897581
>I don't believe you can get around the subcontracting clause by using evasive language and call it a commission or yard work
Given that it's Nijisanji, the possibility is there.

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>>70893950
did they mention the merch?

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>>70897581
>I don't believe you can get around the subcontracting clause by using evasive language and call it a commission or yard work
If you call it a commission, it still matters WHAT kind of work they were doing. He commissioned her to be an assistant if you want to put it that way. She said first long ass schizo rant that he wanted her to be a project manager, but she wasn't allowed to contact other people on his behalf so she couldn't do it.

>He would ask me to manage projects/commissions for him but I wasn't allowed to talk to the commissioners (so I couldn't do this) but kept asking me to organize things for him when I had no clue what and how. I made a trello to try and help him manage things but I wouldn't get deadlines, info, etc, so I couldn't fully do this. I was also barred from the VRChat world project group Discord for some time even though he wanted me to manage that as well, eventually I was let in so I could properly talk to the modelers and designers but by then it was a bit too late to properly see things through, hence partially why it's unfinished. I was also not allowed to contact the other livers for their individual zones so I had to go through their interests and streams to try and find references, inside jokes, etc for things to make sense and hope they liked it.

https://twitter.com/RazielWarmonic/status/1755653110347845923

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>>70894525
Daddy Yoshitaka is very grateful, Luxium is his golden egg. He will make sure it does not lose more members or it will be a reflection of his failure to the company.

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>>70898833
Oh wow, I wonder how stupid they feel now

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>>70893950
Good job, AI waifus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70901109
They don't, sisters will go to any stretch just to deny the truth.

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>>70898833
Wow, and he got away with that? I see why people call Nijisanji viewers retards. They love being used.

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>>70901109
This was released a little while ago now and they have been deflecting by making up lies that she’s a groomer and pedophile despite being proven wrong multiple times. Luca can do no wrong in their eyes and if he fucks up it’s someone else’s fault.

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>>70898957
damn this Hags autism is at higher level.

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>>70898833
This is my first time actually feeling bad for nijisisters. That's cucked up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70896589
Not in nijisanji! The manager doesn't do anything other than skinwalk accounts, the talents do everything.

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>>70901565
Meanwhile, Reimu's longtime friends:
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1ujQdLngnQOFpBIoLt1fbbwc_R-cdformHcemipjqaqk/mobilebasic
>We cuddled for a while and i felt great for being close to him after the way i had been mistreated (i was 15 during this time)
>he tried to kiss me and i rejected it, told him that he didn’t love me back and that it wasnt healthy, that i only kissed people i was in a relationship with while crying.
>he stared at me in silence and then told me “i like you and i want try again”, i complied.
>that day, he touched me wherever he pleased
GroomerSanji

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>>70893950
Lmao he has a nickname in JP
Kyoka Mushishiro = "Ignore Permissions"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
I see they have also covered the Anycolor contract leak.

Nice.

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>>70901744
They covered the employment contract, but haven't covered Zaion's silencing contract yet

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>>70898957
I think it's interesting that he was trying to keep opsec (thus all the information he wouldn't give her). Seems like he was trying to get by on technicalities without directly breaking the rules. Luca is seemingly good at cheating.

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>>70901661
>cucked up
LMAO.

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>>70894968
>1 day to respond
Yeah that tracks with their usual unprofessional deadlines. In my line of work, giving people such short notice would be seen as both a dick move, and an attempt to sabotage the result.

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>>70894882
In my opinion, there's no favoritism in Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70901830
They did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdpPSfl5j70

[Anonymous No.]

>>70902242
Okay Vox

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>>70902410
I clearly missed that one. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

How long before the nip Niji fans turn against the EN branch for all this negative pr?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70902558
It’s slowly happening I feel like. Now that they have a known rule breaker who’s still in the company, they aren’t going to be too happy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHUT IT DOWN

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
total nijinigger death.

[Anonymous No.]

Heh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWAJlSZhC4I

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
In related news, the JP bros are no longer afraid of getting sued by Niji for what Japanese tort law considers "defamation"

I mean they could try, but I don't expect them to be more successful than Mikeneko was

[Anonymous No.]

>>70903979
>they literally say "niji sistas"
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70903979
>all out war
>negligible
kek the JPs know

[Anonymous No.]

>>70903979
Now this is an accurate representation of Nijisisters lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
I wonder how much of this might be news to Riku? Still think the solution is closing the branch and folding the top earners into jp

[Anonymous No.]

>>70905552
>Luca and Vox in JP
That would be disastrous in so many levels.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70904233
Not surprised considering how weasaly they write their anti-posts

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
I wish all NijiEN livers a very bad day

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
The japanese fans can suck my penis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70908562
I wish all NijiEN livers and fans a very Nijisanji Christmas every day

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
>sisters next raid
>but
>39 IQ sisters can't into english even less Japanese
It's over sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70902242
fuck off vox no one asked you

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>>70896050
I can feel the full range of emotions from this image, but not the positive ones, like 2-3 posts there are just low key dissin'.

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>>70896109
>>70896185
From the receipts it's pretty obvious she was hiding from management because it was a break of contract, She freaked out when Pomu talked to her when playing minecraft.

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>>70896589
Contract states that The Company isn’t responsible for any losses due to lack of management

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>>70898833
nijiyumes are either in denial about it or they just memoryholed it completely

[Anonymous No.]

These two girls really are tearing a hole in Anycolor's reputation in Japan.
It reminds me of that one interview with a kid saying that he likes Nijisanji only because their merch has candy that is cheap.

[Anonymous No.]

So the nijisanjiEN roster consists of
-a suspected groomer
-a suspected pedo enabler
-a suspected child predator with cp on their phone
-a confirmed proven racist
I'm kinda amazed that not more is made of this. Rather it's the bullying/shady contract grabbing attention.

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>>70893950
>The Japanese have
You mean one random drama channel nobody watches

[Anonymous No.]

>>70910119
dang, I gotta start watching more NijiEn

[Anonymous No.]

>>70905878
Not really. You just give them each their own tard wrangler and force them to pander to Chinese fujos until they blow their brains out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70910605
If Nijisanji was willing to hand out tard wranglers left and right, we wouldn't be in this current predicament.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70898833
The sisters are literal cucks in denial. lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70910119
You forgot the sex pest harassing the girls, but now that i think about it there are two males harassing girls in kurosanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70901109
>>70901661
They literally either ignoring it or memoryholing

[Anonymous No.]

>>70908562
Except for Petra.

I hope she gets out of there. She didn't do anything wrong.

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>>70911523
Ok I take my statement back. I wish SOME nijsanji livers a very bad day, and others a very happy reincarnation

[Anonymous No.]

>>70910159
>Drama channel
You really gonna call every news channel that, huh? It's Niji's fault for being a goddamn yab machine.

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>>70911779
>yab machine
It's just like one of the JP comments say
>Amazing ANYCOLOR, you are taking on all the negative aspects of the VTuber world...
Well, the negative part is that it's funny that it always comes from "Nijisanji"?
90% of Nijisanji (EN) news is bad news.

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>>70904911
The impact gonna be :sob: extremely minor

[Anonymous No.]

>>70898833
That's some potent dose of ntr.

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>>70894968
Yeah it's a shame that the contract says they can't hire someone like a subcontractor. Luca is a real retard for getting an assistant. The contract says clear as day, no assita-

[Anonymous No.]

>>70898833
Isn't this balatant false advertisement? It's insane how he can get away with this, Japan has very stringent false advertising law

[Anonymous No.]

>>70914569
That'd be implying sisters have standards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70903979
>Actually calling them "nijisistas"
I will finance any defense of these AI waifus if they ever get struck with a lawsuit

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that Hololive was lynched by a fuckton of people because of trying to make sure they had walled garden type of environment for the Holos.
Citing that there is no freedom in it. Unlike Niji.

Guess who's laughing now, while winning, without even doing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

Who is to blame for this?

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>>70914878
Niji livers have freedom even from management support. Holos can't even dream about such things.

>>70915024
I always blame dramatubers.

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>>70915111
No you misunderstand. Management is there to hold the wall and nothing more.

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>>70915111
The dramatubers are preventing Luca from getting terminated? What the fuck?

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>>70915206
Oh sorry, I thought you were asking who is to blame for the JP people finding out about the Luca situation.
If you mean who's protecting Luca, probably one of the higher ups in Niji. A lot of people think it's the guy in the screencap in the OP.

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>>70893950
Oh nyo

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>>70914878
Honestly, I just think the walled garden is boring. I understand why they did it (because they seem to have loosened up a bit, but not completely), but the “I don’t hate Hololive, I just get bored of watching the same handful of vtubers” factor can’t be understated, especially when they were going on extended breaks all the time back in 2022.
I do think the walled garden would have collapsed on them had management not made all those changes that brought some of the talents back from the brink of graduation. It’s much better now.
I’m not saying the walled garden isn’t a bad idea, but it wasn’t executed very well at the start. I guess you can blame Mori (and Ollie) for falling for leeches trying to use Hololive for clout and ruining outside collabs, but I’m sick of shitting on Mori

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>>70914129
Yeah, its states that the Vtuber is not allowed to subcontract on their own and require the written consent of Party A, i.e. Nijisanji to subcontract to a third party.
Luca's mod mentioned that Nijisanji was not aware of her doing all that stuff for Luca.

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>>70914129
Yeah, it seems pretty obvious that Anycolor gave Luca permission for the assistant he was hiding from them. He telepathically sent them a memo, and since they didn't respond in 14 days, they automatically approved of it.

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>The lawyer that showed nijisanji's contract was doing a live stream and kept recieving superchats... Do you become an hero just by badmouthing Nijisanji overseas?? At times he showed pekora's videos and it seriously pissed me off. Did he even have Cover's permission??

The lawyer is gonna get sued for playing videos of pekora saying "FUCKING MONKEY"...

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>>70901109
Unless she streamed for him 8 hours a day I really don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70915024
Who do you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70916621
Based cucksister

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>>70915111
riiiiiight... "freedom". something only certain favored livers get while others are might as well be slaves.

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>>70893950
Why do so many Japanese channels make stuff like this with two text to speech characters talking to each other about some informative topic? I swear I’ve seen a bunch of them like this, like one that did something similar with touhou avatars or something like that.

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>>70916737
Damn right I'm proud to be a c-

No, but seriously. I already knew Luca wasn't someone that wrote scripts so I figured someone else was probably doing that. Same with the Minecraft builds, same with the other stuff. What he excells at isn't what Raz was doing, and if she's saying she made him then she'd be able to do it again, wouldn't she?

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>>70916374
holy shit what is it with nips and their obsession with perms?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70915659
Reminder that Nijisanjis can't stream on their PL account while Holos can.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70916374
@tio2525sys must be a fucking retard if he thinks you need Cover's perm to show 5 second clips from public Holo streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70915659
This is a cope because holoJP continuously reaches new heights over time while their closest competitor is making new lows. EN just suffered from some other different issues.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70917121
Maybe that's why Nym has to shut down their Fansly?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70914726
>That'd be implying sisters have standards.
Or self respect.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70916876
holosisters even attacking each other now because they can't understand what the other person is saying

[Anonymous No.]

>>70917016
Your feelings are irrelevant all that matters is the signed contract was breached and favoritism exists in niji

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>>70918857
I'm going to pretend this is a good faith conversation, but I agree that favoritism in the branch is bad. I think everyone in Niji should have assistants and managers that are competent and get perms. This sort of proves both the need for it and the reason why him breaking the rule was bad: if she was under an NDA, this leak wouldn't have happened.

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>>70897581
>The contract states that matters ancillary or related to vtuber activities may not be subcontracted

You must all be welfare monkeys. It literally says in the same sentence "without permission from Nijisanji". It's either you're being purposely disingenuous or you're a slack jawed knuckle dragger

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>>70919239
Thus his contract needs to be terminated and receive the same outcomes of those who went before him

[Anonymous No.]

>>70894447
He did a lot of things.

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>>70915663
>>70915733
No she didn't. She said he was afraid he'd get in trouble for giving her his work email because that's clearly a bigger deal than just having her script shit for him and do his schedules. She even was upset that Luca was talking to her about tax documents because Luca was clearly paying her for some of her work. Clearly, Luca shouldn't have trusted the bitch but hindsight is 20/20

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>>70919738
If that's what happens, that's what happens and fair enough. I would still be upset about it, but he's a grown up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
This guy stinks

[Anonymous No.]

>>70920062
I don't think "if" works here, it should be when. If it doesn't happen and they don't fix everything wrong with the company then I hope it burns to the ground

[Anonymous No.]

>>70920270
You already hope the company burns to the ground, I know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70919239
I'm gonna laugh at the lucucks who were fawning over how pretty ""his"" handwriting was but tbdesu the more time passes the more clear it becomes that the Mizuchi fiasco is just a sign of far deeper rot within NijiEN. Luca's management was poor enough that he felt the need to rely on Mizuchi to carry out a bunch of the duties they should have been doing, and in doing so without any sort of approval he fucked both himself and NijiEN over in general by leaking info to a third party with no obligation to keep it secret—logically, one would assume that other talents were likely faced with similar or worse levels of mismanagement (as can be seen with Selen). The fact that he has yet to face any major punishment for getting caught pretty undeniably breaching contract shows that favoritism is also rampant within the branch (also supported by Mizuchi's more recent implication that he's got a company bigwig backing him and the rest of Luxiem).

""His"" handwriting isn't why most Lucubs would have decided to oshi him so them still supporting him isn't all too suprising, but like I said I'm still gonna make fun of the ones that were fawning over it because it's still really fucking funny
以上

[Anonymous No.]

>>70919991
If Anycolor knew about her, they would have had her sign an NDA... or at least attempted to send her one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70921097
Prove she didn't get one considering she was getting paid by Luca since he was involved with her taxes. Her spilling shit means nothing because she's out of her mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>70921770
She outright said so.

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>>70921770
Why would Luca paying her have anything to do with her having an NDA? Do you think Anycolor keeps tabs on where he spends his money?

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>>70919991
>>70921770

Using the company email to access his MC acc is not a bigger deal and would fall under her subcontract if she actually had one.

>I never saw the Nijisanji contract
>In the event that Party B subcontracts all or part of the Vtuber activities to a third party or jointly conducts these activities ... Party B SHALL IMPOSE ON SUCH THIRD PARTY THE SAME OBLIGATIONS AS THOSE OF PARTY B SET FORTH IN THIS AGREEMENT

Luca's mod was unaware of the Vtuber actives and their obligation which was necessary to even enter a subcontract.
You would need to sign the subcontract for even the "script shit and schedules", because you are availing a third party's service to assist in your own activities in exchange for money.

>Just for reference, I tried multiple times to do this the "right" way by contacting Anycolor and Luca. I was not hostile but they both ignored/ghosted me.
I can understand Anycolor not responding to Luca's mod asking to be his "manager". But I don't understand if there was already a subcontract clause and if Luca was already paying money, why would he ignore the issue and not make it official.
Either he didn't ask Anycolor or he did and was denied. But if he was denied why not just say so to his mod instead of ghosting her when she asked about it. Does look like he was intentionally breaking contract, because he wanted her help.

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>>70921770
She said she was never under a NDA directly, but if that isn't good enough for you, consider this:
If she's so out of her mind, she'd definitely be blasting Tweets that she's being threatened by Nijisanji for revealing internal communications and materials, like concept images.

Or maybe Anycolor just doesn't know and should be made aware of this situation ASAP.

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>>70894968
>give talent 1 (ONE) day to respond to a mutually beneficial money making opportunity with very few overhead costs
>if you miss it then uh, too bad! should've checked your messages

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
Oh no how awful anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>70921982
Then does that mean he wanted it to be lea—

NUOHMAHGAWD

[Anonymous No.]

>>70921770
>Her spilling shit means nothing because she's out of her mind
Can you sisters stop using the "she's crazy therefor everything wrong thing Luca did is null" argument? I know you guys are rightfully upset at the situation for a multitude of reason, but this ain't it senpai.

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>>70921770
>Her spilling shit means nothing because she's out of her mind
this argument of "mentally ill therefore niji good" didn't work with dokibird, won't work to save luca, sister

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>>70921982
>Using the company email to access his MC acc is not a bigger deal and would fall under her subcontract if she actually had one.

If she were to leak his work email, that would, in fact, be a bigger deal since any clown online could just try and get the password leading to a mega leak.

>Party B SHALL IMPOSE ON SUCH THIRD PARTY THE SAME OBLIGATIONS AS THOSE OF PARTY B SET FORTH IN THIS AGREEMENT

That doesn't mean she had to see a contract. Just because someone is a subcontractor doesn't mean they have to literally sign a contract

>why would he ignore the issue and not make it official?

Because he already essentially fired her and clearly wants nothing to do with her. Doing things the "right way" doesn't mean the legal way. It means she approached Luca consistently trying to get him to stop ghosting and when they didn't work, she tried bringing up her retardation to Anycolor to get them to fire him

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>>70922437
If she doesn't sign a contract then she's not under any obligations. There is no arguing this point. She can't be under obligations she didn't agree to. Otherwise Luca could spread his obligations like an STD to unsuspecting people.

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>>70922437
>It means she approached Luca consistently trying to get him to stop ghosting and when they didn't work, she tried bringing up her retardation to Anycolor to get them to fire him
Solid argument there. Now go back to Xoyo and pretend to know something there instead. This makes it even worse for AnyColor and Luca if true, meaning she reached out about Luca leaking everything and they ignored her and kept him employed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922685
>meaning she reached out about Luca leaking everything and they ignored her and kept him employed.
NTA but this is likely true. We know about his sugar daddy being a board member and presiding over vtuber management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922637
>Working under Luca means Luca told her she has to follow all the rules he has to follow, meaning she never had to sign anything. Luca just told her all the rules and that'd mean those rules were imposed on her. Sice Luca was the one who hired her, once she was fired, she didn't have to sign any NDA so she went scorched Earth to drag her down with him

[Anonymous No.]

>>70894716
So this Raziel skinwalked in his minecraft account, but why is he/she exposing Luca?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922685
>she reached out about Luca leaking everything and they ignored her and kept him employed.

Why would she admit to planning to publicly smear Luca if she was going to do things "the right way"? You think she's Selen or something?

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>>70922836
>Luca told her she has to follow all the rules he has to follow, meaning she never had to sign anything.
That wouldn't hold up in court. Like... any court. Anywhere. I know that you know that we know that they are legally incompetent, but Anycolor isn't going to rely on a verbal agreement between their employee and his girlfriend in lieu of an actual NDA.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922836
Hold up I'm confused. Are you trying to make this point or are you making fun of the braindead line of reasoning?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922437
>Article 6 Subcontracting
>2 ... and shall be jointly and severally liable with such third party for the acts of such third party.

To be liable as a subcontractor, you would have to sign some sort of contract; a contract possibly referencing clauses from the original employment contract.

If she leaked the company email as a subcontractor, she and possibly Luca, would be liable.
If she was a subcontractor, she would actually take extra care of not leaking anything accidentally much less by intentional malice.

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>>70922854
Because she is already useless to him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70923072
All courts uphold verbal agreements especially if they're ones that can be proven to have happened with logs
>>70923183
It says nothing about the subcontractor having to sign the contract too. If she were to be fired by Luca and not have signed an NDA, she would have legal freedom to say whatever she wants

[Anonymous No.]

>>70923207
Luca stopped talking to her? What the fuck did he think was going to happen? Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>70914129
Wow. So Selen is caught in a proven lie, clear as day. Better cover up this one, DokiDrones!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70923486
That's an understatement if I ever saw one. Calling their breakup ugly would be a compliment if you read her essay on the matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922854
Because hell hath no fury

[Anonymous No.]

>>70922685
> meaning she reached out about Luca leaking everything and they ignored her and kept him employed.
All but confirmed at this point. This dude must lay some serious pipe to have everyone going to such great lengths to serve and protect him at every turn.

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>>70893950
ruh roh

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>>70919249
and in the same breath it also states that said third party would be subjected to the same restrictions as the liver, which implies signing a contract/NDA of some sort.

do you really think they'd let Raziel run her mouth off if she had signed anything?

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>>70919249
Why would Luca tell her to keep everything a secret then, or that if anycolor found out he gave Raz his work email he’d be fired?

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>>70924079
>which implies signing a contract/NDA of some sort.

No it doesn't. It implies that Party B would enforce the same rules on the assistant that Party B has. Luca fired her and was done with her and he obviously wasn't going to type up an NDA contract for what's basically a personal spat. She ran with the freedom and is trying to get him fired.

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>>70924286
>he obviously wasn't going to type up an NDA contract for what's basically a personal spat
that's not how NDAs work anon...

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>>70924932
It quite literally is. Do you think only lawyers can write contracts?

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>>70916936
Japanese are autistic when it comes to their personal information. Yukkuris are a popular avatar to use when discussing internet stuff.

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>>70925058
Anon as far as I can tell you're trying to argue that a publicly traded company wouldn't cover their ass against subcontractors leaking insider information by not mandating that they sign an NDA. It quite literally doesn't matter if Luca or AC was meant to make her sign one, the fact that she didn't speaks for itself.

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>>70893950
Why are we gassing up a literally who channel that gets Finana-tier numbers? If someone like Narukami reported on it, then it'd matter, but this is like if there was some Japan-centric drama and 2ch posters were hyping up a Kuru Rinji tweet about it.

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>>70925058
NTA but that line of thought leads to trouble. Yes, contracts can also be written by $7.40/hr university students, but that hasn't worked out very well for Anycolor. Use professionals when you need professionals. Don't rely on amateurs when you are running a large business handling sensitive information.

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>>70916374
Too bad he’s no nip so suing him is literally pointless KEK

Please seethe more Japan

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>>70925496
>It is Nijisanji's fault that Luca didn't decide to actually have his friend sign NDAs after he deleted her from his existence for the person he hired

Is Anycolor supposed to be the equivalent to Jews on /pol/?

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>>70923423
If Party B doesn't use a subcontractor contract to subcontract a third party, then the said third party becomes a liability for Party A.
The Subcontracting article is essentially written to enforce this, so that Party A can cover their bases in case of future legal issues due to subcontracting.

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>>70925701
No, the implication here is that he hired her behind their back and they let him get away with it because he's a golden goose.

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>>70925640
>>70925710

This is why they say that Party B would be held liable for whatever fuck ups their assistants do since they're supposed to manage who they hire. Luca not having her sign NDAs before having her be fired while having a falling out is just something the average person wouldn't think of

[Anonymous No.]

Looking at the amount of essays and jargon that's in this thread as well as what Raziel claims, how the fuck did an Aussie bumfuck like Luca attract such a dedicated following of skilled menhera women? Lucucks why are you so loyal to this absolute loser?

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>>70925943
You would generally be made to sign the contract before you're handed the confidential information.

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>>70925701
The idea that Anycolor would rely on Luca Kaneshiro being competent, instead of making sure the NDA was handled themselves, is laughable. No matter how fucked the company is, I still can't believe they would handle sensitive information with that little care. The entire reason the contract requires Anycolor's permission is likely to ensure that the subcontractor is NDA'd. Why bother asking permission otherwise? If the liver is fully responsible for everything, why does Anycolor even need to know?

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>>70925943
Legally the mod would've to sign a subcontractor contract BEFORE doing anything vtuber activities related.
the NDA could've been included in contract or standalone.

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>>70926417
>>70923423

>>70926188
It went fine until she got fired for going crazy since he was not giving her enough attention. They ask for permission, ask what kind of shit they'll help with and Niji would give a thumbs up.

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>>70927759
If this retarded headcanon was true it would be fucking hilarious

[Anonymous No.]

>>70927759
>They ask for permission, ask what kind of shit they'll help with and Niji would give a thumbs up
>But if this is true, this would make a lot of sense why he was so weirdly secretive about me and I wasn't allowed to speak to others AT ALL especially when trying to manage his projects outside the Luxiem park.

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>>70916936
>>70925266
>why people hide their identities when there is a black company with literal slave contracts that can sue you forever for defamation, I totally don't get it.

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>>70896589
Managers in Nijisanji are prison guards and the head manager is the warden. I'm not even kidding, they literally only exist to beat livers up if they break a rule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70930646
Gundou called Niji a prison for a reason

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>>70930889
>When it's convenient for them you're treated as an indie, when it's not you're treated as part of a company...
>*sigh* I'm so tired of this

-Chihiro since years ago

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>>70930889
If you try to leave Niji you get the harshest treatment. The managers exist solely to deliver beatdowns to liver's while nobody is looking (often even suspending in secret) and they're super corrupt and selective about it. Other livers behave like highschoolers and bullying is widespread. Nijisanji is literally a high sec prison. They even have racial gangs.

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>>70893950
Sexy Japanese sisters vs fat ugly Chinese ones

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>>70916374
>L-look! He's playing Holo clips too!
And what about it? Is this nigger hoping Cover to strike him? Hiding behind Cover's ass, pathetic.

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>>70893950
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO

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>>70902227
Selen said she didn't check her messages. That's why it was 1 day left.

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>>70931574
No need to use Livers anymore. We only adapted their way of speaking so they felt cut up even more and more confused.

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>>70934304
We can just call them virtual convicts then because the prison analogy is spot on.

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>>70934084
No, she was given 1 day and she happened to not check her messages then, that's why she wasn't able to respond in time.

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>>70931574

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>>70917116
They have fucked up laws on copyrighted material. Fair use doesn't even exist in samurai land.

[Anonymous No.]

What's the problem with this?
Doesn't it prove that Nijisanji values the EN branch?
Holofags should not be jealous of Nijis.

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>>70893950

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>>70893950
when im fulfilling Nature calls in the toilet
im entering this phase of thinking and sometime im just wondering why tf NijiEN livers cant be normal and not making scandal for at least 3monts?

[Anonymous No.]

>Used copyrighted music on stream, his excuse was “woops I didn’t know!”
>Nuked the Minecraft server and never apologized
>Blew off multiple sponsor streams to play GTAV instead
>Cheats at Amongus, Suika, and Minecraft so he can feed his ego
>Let someone skin walk his official Minecraft company account to beat Pomu
>Let same person write hand written merch for him along with his signature for his fans to buy
>Got hand stream permissions revoked for a while due to negligence during them
>Got FromSoft perms nuked for Elden Ring due to leaving superchats on from negligence

Terminate Luca Kaneshiro.

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>>70938843
>Cheats at Amongus, Suika, and Minecraft
what? is he retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
>AI slop "vtubers"
wow all of japan is working on this case drama trannies

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>>70938843
How pathetic can one dude be?

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>>70931138
Speaking of Chihiro
https://youtu.be/et69TrJvHSg
>Mirabom: If you sue, let's get yakiniku with that money
>Chihiro: If I do it'd be plus, sure...
>Mirabom: Definitely plus, at least 5 million dollars!
>Chihiro: It'd be nice if it was that much
>Chihiro: So obviously I've sued already, but somehow...
>Chihiro: Someone said "it's like you got a 10k akasupa, lol)
>Chihiro: But it wasn't that much of a plus at all...
>Mirabom: But wouldn't you get a ton of money from the trial?
>Chihiro: It cost a LOT of money.
>Chihiro: First of all there was getting the disclosure of their information which cost a lot.
>Mirabom: It'd take a lot of time with all that useless bullshit (to sift through is what I think he's saying but correct me if I'm wrong)
>Chihiro: And speaking with my lawyer with a bunch of different things of course took a lot of time and money...
>Chihiro: It wasn't a plus at all.
>Mirabom: Then I'll go plus! (In kill points)

tl;dr Kurosanji didn't pay for any of her lawyer fees, despite it being a part of their Anti-Defamation Measures with Cover, and even after winning 5 million yen from the case (at the time about 40k dollars, I think?) she went into the red from it and got nothing but her money and time wasted. Probably why she announced her comeback not even 24 hours after her graduation stream.

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>>70922854
He stopped giving her dick.

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>>70940553 (me)
Correction since I didn't notice the date which changes the context of the start a bit, he's talking about her success from the trial and not the trial itself. So it'd be more like
>Mirabon: Let's get yakiniku with that successful lawsuit money!
Also it's Mirabon and not Mirabom, my brain is so used to the word bomb being with an m that it just autocorrect itself.

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>>70940553
I literally have no idea what you're talking about

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>>70941475
>tl;dr Kurosanji didn't pay for any of her lawyer fees
It's right there anon, I just translated the discussion they had in the clip.

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>>70939332
Unironically yes.

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>>70893950
literally just 1 nip trying to get clout.

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>>70896050
is this real?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70901666
who?

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>>70939332
If he lose, he's not POG.

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>>70938843
In JP his nickname is Kyoca Mushishiro which means Ignore Perms. It's amazing

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>>70942050
Doesn't matter, the fact that they are exposing it to the Japanese market at all means they think it's worth translating and sharing.

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>>70941697
Remember when Shion also paid her own lawyer and not Cover? This is same for all companies. That is why Anycolor use Criminal Court and force Lulu and Roa to not stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>70942065
Yeah fulgur posted it on twitter himself in like 2022..

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70940553
More confirmation that the contract is real?

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>>70938843
I forgot how annoying his "pog" shtick is.

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>>70940553
>your company joins up with another company specifically for defamation lawsuits
>get the two companies to support your defamation case
>win the case
>they spend nothing and you lose everything
>for a character you don't even own
fucking hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>70938843
>Got hand stream permissions revoked for a while due to negligence during them
>Got FromSoft perms nuked for Elden Ring due to leaving superchats on from negligence
This retard is so fucking negligible.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70903979
>タツキとザイオンは太陽神の恐怖政治から民衆を導く自由の女神だなw
Tatsuki and Zaion are like the goddesses of freedom who lead the people from the tyranny of the sun god, lol
>ジャンヌ・ダルクかな?
Is it Joan of Arc?
>独裁政権(ANYCOLOR)からの開放を志す革命軍(脱退者たち)とか
Something like a revolutionary army (of defectors) aiming for liberation from the dictatorship (ANYCOLOR)

Doki and Sayu are gaining respect even in JP

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>>70922175
Free home 3D suite from Yagoo so don't have to go to Japan. But she wanted to go all out for a Studio 3D.
How much did that cost?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70947164
Based
Total Nijinigger Death

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17GFjZreidM
just throw niji down the well

[Anonymous No.]

>>70940553
Someone post the lynchpin that made Chihiro finally stop and rethink being in Nijisanji. You know. The one with La+.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70896050
Now post the all out war discord convo.

[Anonymous No.]

For better or worse, JP hasn't caught onto shit; engagement for the "drama" peaked with them on the initial notice of the Selen termination and that was the last word. Penetration has overall been low due to the language barrier, and even barring that, the fire isn't even actively burning on this side either, more so passively being in the phase where it isn't safe to commence cleanup or recovery efforts just yet. The video's engagement is low, and the only people watching/commenting are either on the opposite side of the pacific from Japan or already invested in the channel's drama-coverage to begin with, i.e. not the nominal JP audience. Any cursory check of twitter, where the main cesspool of followers in JP is, and you will not find more than 5 reports and even fewer engagements, instead seeing the normal shit of merch announcements and pics. I would be astonished if even 1% of the JP audience was aware that this whole saga persisted at all after the beginning of February, and of those that are, they are not likely to be open, let alone friendly, to the notion that AC has any hand in wrongdoing.

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>>70951164
JP doesn't have the freedom of shit talk big corpos like the filthy gaijins farming drama for months because they know the posibility of getting sued to oblivion is almost zero, which is not the same case on Nippon land, we're talking about a huge black corpo that treat people like slaves and gives zero fucks about using illegal contracts, now try to imagine if the other corpos made a under the desk deal that's impossible to know.
If they want to silence you in JP they could just blacklist you of any chance of getting a job, collab, sponsors, merch deals they would destroy any future career if you tried it and that's if they don't sue you to oblivion for defamation why do you think the videos shitting on nijisanji are behind an avatar and edited/text to speech programs they don't want their identities exposed.
So yeah Japan is obviously silent because they don't want get fucked over for no gains.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70952004
I've been exposed to enough Jap tele to know that when they break out the text-to-speech, some serious shit or shitpost is going down, and it demands attention.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70950363
Is that from when they teamed up for vsai?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70952887
Laplus 3d showcase I believe. Chihiro was a guest. She was surprised on Cover's hospitality and attentiveness.
She said she felt like she was a big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
Cool

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>>70929531
Yeah, she couldn't talk about being Luca's assistant online obviously because then they'd break the rules she agreed to by being Luca's assistant. People would be hounding her for info on Luca too but I guess that didn't matter since she went scorched earth.

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>>70938843
>OMG GUYS. He ruined Minecraft, cheated at among us, didn't do streams he didn't want to do and accidentally left superchats on for a stream. WHY ISN'T HE FIRED

You realize you faggots sound like children when you say this shit, don't you? What kind of retard tries to get someone fired for cheating in among us?

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>>70956321
What kind of retard tries to get someone fired for posting a video?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956321
he let someone used and make things for him in minecraft and a streamer cheating is generally bad rep if caught

this isnt being kids sister its a matter of principle

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956185
>>70927759

>I wasn't just a mod and AnyColor DID NOT KNOW about my activities as I did try to reach out to them multiple times to be advised on certain situations and how to proceed(such as the Ringfit stuff) but Luca nor Anycolor was interested in helping.

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>>70893950
Wait until they get into the Reimu groomer scandal...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956617
Nobody gives a shit about Reimu. Luca and Vox on the other hand...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956321
Anon, you are in a drama thread on catalog, you are as childish as the rest of us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956617
IIRC Reimu wasn't the groomer but she supported a known pedo groomer in publicly harassing a kid to suicide.

[Anonymous No.]

If this was Cover he would've been investigated and fired immediately. They're definitely giving him a free pass because the branch is in shambles and can't take much more damage.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956321
>gave his company accounts to a third party to do his work for him without the company's knowledge, despite this being explicitly forbidden by contract
>shared internal communications to her, including staff to talent, for the purpose of gossiping

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956683
Okay, someone needs to elaborate on this. If this is true, this is fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957134
She also showed up in this thread trying to defend herself (badly) but really all she did was say she was upset she got caught and/or that she "targeted the wrong person"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957168(me)
I'm retarded. I posted the wrong screencap.
>>70766311 this is the thread she showed up in.

>be in utaite group
>biggest member is also a gay pedo
>promise cloud to kids for favors
>do this for years
>dudes finally really they are being abused
>try to get away
>gay pedo sends his goons(including Reimu) to bully and blackmail victims
>a kid actually tries to kill himself
>A couple of years later he comes back to the internet with a long ass document with all evidence
>he suing all of them

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957134
Its second hand information, I got from here:
>>70923682

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957134
>If this is true
Everything said by schizos on this board is not true. The true story is that she was accused of sending a tweet that lead to him being harassed. It was a single sentence in a long document accusing someone else. Reimu said she didn't know about any accusations, didn't send any tweet that got him harassed and stop associating with the guy accused. There is no screenshot of any tweet she sent about him. There's no record of literally anything he claimed despite him writing a full on document where he could have easily posted proof. Now faggots are claiming guilt by association to continue their cancel culture spree and acting like Tumblrinas because this board has went to shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956321
>He ruined minecraft
He ruined years worth of content and memories for both the livers and the audience, Imagine if one day a homostar accidently destroyed the hololive MC servers, DYRBI that is negligible?
>He cheated in among us
He cheated in more than just among us, Ruining the collabs and being a gross little turd about it when he got caught
>Didn't do streams he didn't want to do
He was contractually obligated to do sponsored streams as per his contract, But due to being mane-san's golden boy he got off scot free
>He accidentally left superchats on for a stream
He permanently cost Nijisanji the rights to stream ANY fromsoft games in the future, But sure that's totally negligible too

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957334
Nice try, Reimu.

[Anonymous No.]

There is still the case of using Abuse of Authority against a Vtuber who used to belong to unicreate and sent him a document with Riku's signature (anycolor is falsified as a forgery).
Forgery of sealed private documents in Japan is punishable by imprisonment from 3 months to 5 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957356
>DYRBI that is negligible
Yes, it's fucking Minecraft. No one cares but children online
>He cheated in more than just among us
No one cares.
>He was contractually obligated to do sponsored streams as per his contract
Where the fuck does it say they're not allowed to say no to sponsors on the contract?
>He permanently cost Nijisanji the rights to stream ANY fromsoft games in the future
Me when I lie https://www.youtube.com/live/arbb-ChgEK4?si=BV0IDtbJaofm-1b_

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956321
>What kind of retard tries to get someone fired for cheating in among us?
You do realize ghosting is one of the worst ever offenses you can do according to JP viewers? If it ever got out that not only he did that but didn't even apologise it would be the final nail in the coffin for them

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956592
>I wasn't just a mod
Because she was an assistant and she wouldn't know that Anycolor knows about her because Luca is the only bridge of information. Use logic

[Anonymous No.]

I dont watch Luca.
But I do know a few bits and I would laugh myself to the moon if that chick writing about him on Twitter was the actual voice of Lucy since she claims to have been so involved with the channel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957995
It's ok when my poor baby breaks his contract by showing that he's a complete liability who cannot be trusted under any circumstances to handle corporate information. He just made a mistake hundreds of times over several months. He didn't know any better.
but a music video?! GOD FORBID. BURN THAT WITCH.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957356
>He ruined minecraft
Him accidentally deleting a large chunk of the world was actually a bit of a wake up call for me. I remember Pomu being actively going around trying to fix his fuckup, restoring things where possible and simply just building new shit so it wasn't a big empty green. What suck out to me were her interactions with Millie, who pissy because some of the new stuff was encrouching on what she claimed was her area, like Petra's pentomo was too close and Pomu tried to move it but Millie talked herself into a rage so hard she eventually stopped streaming. Some time later she would destroy the ethyria house and never touch minecraft again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957223
All the hypothesized posts belonging to her:
>>70802142
>She says to have changed since the incident with the pedo guy (unlikely given the Selen situation) and asks to be be left alone.
>>70813083
>She recognizes the harassment against the kid and claims that she was tricked into thinking that the kid was a bad person at first.
>>70813238
>She explains that she answered because she got into a panic when thinking about losing her main source of income (Nijisanji).

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957334
Reimu, show me your puffy pussy oozing with juices and I will PERSONALLY champion you and astroturf in your defense for 1(one) full month, tirelessly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958254
Dont be so gullible. Its obviously just some anon larping as her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958398
The slip-up in >>70813083 makes me believe it's real

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958398
It's already known that Reimu lurks /here/ from a stream long ago, so there's the possiblity. Also, as said in that same thread, she could have been drunk at the moment, explaining why she interacted with such posts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958484
Either way it's not as funny as Enna being up all night seething so hard at her hate thread that she couldn't make the off collab.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958541
And none of it is as fun as imagining Finana shitting on the Ryuguards /here/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958154
You would need a written consent from AnyColor to hire an assistant as a vtuber to assist in vtuber activities, especially if said services were exchanged for money.
Hiring a third party as an assistant to assist you in vtuber activities is the definition of subcontracting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958484
>>70958541
As soon as you pretend that every NDF post is written by an actual Liver like Millie Enna or Vox they become ten times funnier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958198
Every instance of him breaking his contract is either made the fuck up by schizos or is something he attempted to fix. Every instance of Selen breaking her contract consists of her not trying to fix it, having management fix it and then she throws a tantrum online. Which do you think an employer would be more angry with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958679
Yeah which is why Luca got the written consent. Nothing ever stated he had to show her the written consent statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70903979
term "Nijisister" actually started from the nip board (5chan) and it spread to 4chan then it's surfaced to reddit and youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958745
OK. So how did he try to fix his year of potentially company-ending security breaches? What if she REALLY went schizo and decided to leak the entire company e-mail account? What would he do then? He was trusted with confidential information on the strict trust that he would not disclose that to third parties, or if he did he would at LEAST inform or consult ANYCOLOR for it. Instead he blabbed about EVERYTHING to his psychotic girlfriend who spilled it all over the internet because he couldn't keep his pants on. How can they ever trust him with anything? How much does she know? She has prototypes for collaborations of all of Luxiem, as well as had access to their e-mail for months. What if she goes completely nuclear? How can you be sure she won't? And it's all Luca's fault.
But no, selen upload mv she made for fans on christmas bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958745
>made the fuck up by schizos
>has multiple pieces of evidence corroborating violations, including streams and connecting events with livers
Sure, let's give your mention on Selen that she did make mistakes and bitched about it online, but do you think that warrants the pettiness of nijisanji? Which mind you, OTHER livers have fucking done as well but never received this level of treatment.
Have you ever worked in your life? Do you not understand professionalism, equity, and proper treatment of employees? They could have just fired her just as she requested.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958154
I don't know if you are the same anon but I was arguing with this:
>>70927759
>They ask for permission, ask what kind of shit they'll help with and Niji would give a thumbs up

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958793
She would also need to sign a subcontractor contract which would probably also include a confidentiality clause because >>70925710

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958745
As an employer I would be asking after the 2nd time - Why are you such a fuckup? You don't bring in enough money to be constantly fucking up. Get your shit together or GTFO.
Reality is his fuckups are pretty severe breaches. I've seen senior management fired for having TikTok on their company phone. His fuckups are damn serious in the corporate world. It seriously compromises opsec.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70958965
Apparently you think she had all this, was getting paid and don't think she was hired as Luca's assistant. Keep up that victim complex though, Doki. I know you're jealous he was smart enough to ask for an assistant and you weren't

>>70958973
>do you think that warrants the pettiness of nijisanji?
Yes
>OTHER livers have fucking done as well but never received this level of treatment.
You have most of Luxiem complaining about an event being cancelled vs Selen complaining that the company is fixing her mistake after she broke the rules multiple times and admitting to insulting her manager on more than one occasion

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957223
>>70957259
fucking kek ISRAEL
>>70754438

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959191
I don't understand how they can even defend it or god forbid say it's worse than uploading a music video that already must have had prior approval in order to get that far in the first place.
That level of security breach is insane. She seems to have had access to EVERYTHING. And not only that, she copied all of it to use against him, too! It's a corporation's actual worst nightmare and they're defending this bastard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959117
Subcontractors don't need to sign a contract. It says clear as day in this thread that all Party B would have to do is impose the same rules they have into the assistant. Nothing about a contract is ever said

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959213
>insulting manager
vs
>POTENTIAL FUCKING LEAK OF EVERYTHING THE LARGEST GROUP IN THE BRANCH WAS EVER INVOLVED IN.
Which one should be terminated, sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959262
You're a retard. She was his mod so she was already confirmed to be working for him. It's not a security breach to show shit to someone who's working for you so they could help. Just admit you're crying yourself to sleep, Doki. Luxiem isn't out to get you

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959398
Imagine this post is Luca and laugh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959316
>>POTENTIAL FUCKING LEAK OF EVERYTHING THE LARGEST GROUP IN THE BRANCH WAS EVER INVOLVED IN.
>The leaks in question:
>Playing Minecraft on his account
>Helped with signatures for merch

You trannies love to exaggerate. Maybe you'll end up actually being a woman one day

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959398
>PLEASE DON'T TELL ANYONE THAT YOU ARE DOING THIS I COULD GET FIRED
>She tells everyone
Yeah, it's a security breach.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959485
I am. I can totally see that idiot going "It's just minecraft and merch!" right before she leaks a fucking doxx of all of luxiem from organizing offcollabs. There's no way she doesn't have it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959398
Umm.. Enna? What do you have to say about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da3sovRr-qU&t=851s

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>>70959253
Holy shit, pedophiles too? I thought it was mostly Vox, but they have a whole culture of hanging with those types? Didn't Reimu also upset some other livers by linking unsavory pictures of kids to the others? Thought it was in bad taste then, but now.... FUCK

[Anonymous No.]

>>70960112
>unsavory pictures of kids
That was Enna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70957134
>>70956683
>>70957223
You asked for it, Reimu groomer scandal receipts.
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1ujQdLngnQOFpBIoLt1fbbwc_R-cdformHcemipjqaqk/mobilebasic

[Anonymous No.]

>>70960175
That seems very conclusive.
Holy shit Reimu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70960173
Was that anon confirmed to be same fagging? Either way, nothing points to it being CP

>>70960842
You're also a faggot, it's literally exactly what this anon described
>>70957334

[Anonymous No.]

>>70961321
You can't trick us, Reimu. We know where the bodies are buried.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70961321
Fuck off sister. Your lies and attempts to silence the truth won't be ignored.

[Anonymous No.]

Luca’s actually in this thread defending himself lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959838
For anyone interested but too lazy to open the video, the quote below is from Enna at 14:11:
>Selen I will definitely not- You know what? Like... living with Selen or like, just dying is basically the same thing. So there's really no like- There's no point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70961321
Yeah anon, let us be real for one fucking moment here and realize this isn't your typical rrat. This right there is a legit serious accusation where even some of the filth on this board should stop for a moment and think about the actual severity of this.
Regardless of right or wrong, this isn't a "HAHA FUNNY" rrat, this is the shit that needs to be taken serious.
If its wrong, fuck whoever made it up.
If its legit, Reimu unironically deserve to be punched in the face and then some more.
And its the one time where anons should sit down and start pursueing this just to get the truth of this, instead of just throwing verbal diarrhea.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70959838
https://youtu.be/da3sovRr-qU?t=925
>Petra
sad penguin

[Anonymous No.]

Post tots NOW

[Anonymous No.]

>>70914825
>these AI waifus
It is not AI. Its text2speech which has been popular on niconico since the 2000`s

[Anonymous No.]

>>70962258
>"This isn't your typical rrat"
>Digs up half a decade old accusation
>Person accused of a crime ISN'T the tuber
>mentioned a single time in the accusation document for "tweeting about the victim" which led to harassment
>No tweet exists
>Tuber denies ever sending harassment towards them and says she never knew about the accusations

This leads to dramafaggots on the board just changing the story to "she got her fans to bully a victim with her tweets we know don't exist to protect her pedophile friend she immediately cut contact with after discovering what he was being accused of". Not your typical rrat though

[Anonymous No.]

>>70893950
Peak female (male} behaviour.

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji is rather sexist, don't you think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70962667
>no tweet exists
Nice 'attempt' at an excuse Reimu. I'm sure everyone else forgot that people can just delete tweets. They'll definitely believe your flimsy excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70963672
what? how tf you came with that conclusion?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70963672
Huh?? What kinda falseflag is this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70964227
>>70964290
NTA, but probably numbers, because sisters only show up for the guys or something.

[Anonymous No.]

>https://old.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/1bacofz/artist_who_previously_worked_with_the_black/
It's okay, Luca is just gonna have to stay in Japan for a bit, come to the office daily, and write a few letters about his mistakes to read to people, it's all good sport, education really, once he's done he will be an entirely new person and ready to start back up content production just wait and see!

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>>70958249
>Him accidentally deleting a large chunk of the world was actually a bit of a wake up call for me.
Do we even know he was the one who did it, and not his skinwalker menhera girlfriend who did? Because it'd make sense if he was unable to revert the world if the file was being passed back and forth between him and her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70962667
Way to miss the point.
People post rrats about managers, bullying, how shit Niji and Riku are or the contracts.
This is legit creepazoid pedophilia stuff. No, this is far from the usual rrats, this is far from the usual fun speculations and dramafagging.

Sorry if you don't get this anon but there are certain layers to this where its no longer just dramashit but entering territory where its no longer a laughing matter. This is where it requires a stern and genuine look into things instead of the usual procedures anons like to do. So no, not your usual rrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70948119
Knowing her, she probably bought things on the upper side of the cost/quality just for the sake of assurance over actual quality. In one hand, that means that Moona should never have fun dumb shit happen to her like Matuli getting yeeted away, and in the other ID can probably use her mini studio too so its a win/win, except that everything came out of Moona's pocket.
If anything, sisters should be tackling this perspective with Moona and Amelia to call out Cover, since these two are pretty much unofficial hololive miniature studios to record things, if anything, doing so either helps the talents getting some kind of reimbursement, or Cover downright kneecaps the Talent's availability to use their own 3D set ups.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70967603
I was there during the stream shit happened, it was during a collab on Elira's channel. They were supposed to play a minecraft horror themed map and Luca was supposed to set up the server to play, well the fucking idiot did jackshit before the actual stream and then decided to do it mid stream, and then he somehow replaced the server files with the custom map files, crashing the server and making it recreate the whole chunk where they spawn for the first time.
He realized he fucked up, because his tone and demeanor suddenly got very serious and anxious, and then tried to laugh it off, Elira immediately realized what the retard did and then moved the conversation to play other horror maps in roblox.
Not in the mood to search the stream and the timestamp, I can try if someone ask though, supposing the video wasn't privated.

You know whats worse? Pomu was also supareading during that fuck up, her chat told her what the idiot did and she got sad to the point of having to bottle up the crying, we only know because she could not stop herself from sniffing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70917116
It's the behavior you see from people in a prison environment. They feel stifled and it builds resentmemt if they see anyone with more freedom and privileges than them, and their instinct is to be cruel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70970021
>minecraft autist live on stream holding back tears
>knowing some faggot who'll never get punished destroyed years of your and your friends work

[Anonymous No.]

I really want The enna stuff to come out. My money is on CP on her phone, or at least something racist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70956185
No, she couldn’t talk about Luca at all because every time she mentioned something, good or bad, she’d be harassed by his fanbase. They have a whole board dedicated to hating her. She used to talk about them watching anime together and his fashion choices like when he went to London but even stopped mentioning stuff like that.

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>>70896050
why did you delete this

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are just being salty. Luca was based. Only problem is he got too full of himself and antagonised his hag waif.
He should have let her do the work for him, gathered the audience and left the sithole that is nijien. And then he should have married her and gone plap plap plap plap plap

Fuck this retard I hate him

[Anonymous No.]

>luca has a waiting room up for today
He truly is untouchable. His ego must be the size of uranus at this point. The fact that he never streams and decides to after all this just to show he isn’t suspended, sasuga Luca.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70971881
and it’s him just throwing money at a game holy kek he really is just trying to flex

[Anonymous No.]

>>70971881
How did that retard become the golden boy? He never made as much money as Vox and never had the same amount of viewers as Mysterio.

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>>70972355
He’s the only one that sucks up to management publicly. All the others have disparaged them while he has not, not even once to be frustrated about permissions or otherwise. Take that, his “innocent” personality, and at least attempting to tard wrangle the other Luxiem members because he’s the so called leader and suddenly you have a favorite.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70914878
>Reminder that Hololive was lynched by a fuckton of people because of trying to make sure they had walled garden type of environment for the Holos.
but thats true and thats the appeal. Draconian contracts is what made these whores behave and were only allowed to exist due to Vtubing being a novel and unregulated medium. Am actually surprised it took this long, i was sure that as soon as vtubing became a thing on the west, they would blow the lit on the strict jap contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70971332
An anon was banned after linking the document pertaining to the harassment case were Reimu's PL was involved. Because of that, all of his posts were deleted, so the post you're quoting possibly was made by him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70974840
4chan is more censored than any other platform when it comes to stuff like this. It's actually really crazy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70975268
I believe that they block the link to the Vox allegations and ban whoever posts the document mentioned because it has the potential of getting the eyes of the authorities on them (admins and mods) and they don't want to deal with such thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70970021
Is it the one where Pomu built her Pomuniverse?
I don't watch niji just trying to keep up with what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70975745
Yes, that , her treehouse, all of Selen's automated farms and Petra's Lord Pentomo pixelart were the main casualties.

Those and the general enthusism for minecraft. Attempting to fix the damage ushered in an age of everyone using creative mode for everything and that wasn't the blockgame autism I subscribe to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70975745
Yes. It's the one where Pomu built her theme park in complete adventure mode, and Luca had a rival one that his mod built for him in creative mode.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70976928
I still kind of believe he built the Mario Kart race track himself because it looked like shit and didn't fit the general theme at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70970021
Not to mention the fact that he didn't even own up to his mistake, and instead told viewers that he didn't owe them an apology. And then he stopped playing Minecraft for months so that he could run away from the issue entirely. Literal egotistical manchild.

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>>70968516
>This is where it requires a stern and genuine look into things instead of the usual procedures anons like to do.

Glad you agree. Serious accusations require evidence and if someone doesn't have evidence, the accusation should not be believed and everyone who tries to spread the accusation to cancel someone is a retard. Thanks for understanding

[Anonymous No.]

>>70977967
https://youtu.be/ef-qXbsvsW0?si=z0VqwC0zFAzZtpmz

And here's what actually happened. Do you fuckers just rely on getting people who don't watch streams to believe you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70970095
This just sounds like the Pomu Rainpuff of Nijisanji EN's first wave, Lazulight, experience. The demotivation and frustration was bubbling out all through '23. Who knows how much she successfully bottled away.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70979608
Re-read what I said, and then see how he responded to viewers in his VOD:
https://youtu.be/DNyuagr1FeY?t=5464

[Anonymous No.]

>>70979608
nah I was there when it happened. he said he apologized to the others in nijiEN privately, but on stream he said he didn't owe anyone else an apology, which includes the viewers. the fact that he wouldn't publicly apologize for what happened (even if it was a mistake) really shows how much of an ego he has.

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>>70979608
Tells people to watch streams, posts a clipper's channel. Don't get me wrong, Nani did a great job being a Pomu clipper, but us Pomies were there when it happened. I fully believe it was an honest mistake on Luca's part (this time), but he also still handled it publicly in an insensitive way.