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70753869 No.70753869 [Reply] [Original]

"Give yourself and more to Party A. Party A does not have to care for you."
Discuss.

>> No.70753960

apolgy i have bad english
can i have tl:dr?

>> No.70753973

>>70753869
Was Aruvn's IQ above the average?

>> No.70754012

>>70753973
Basically yes.

>> No.70754014

>>70753869
This is the perfect example of why we have laws that nullify contracts lmao.

>> No.70754020

>>70753869
>Discuss.
no, fuck you. and also fuck nijiniggers for good measure.

>> No.70754038

>>70753869
Where is article 21?

>> No.70754044

>>70753869
thanks anon

>> No.70754049

>>70753869
Nigger I’m not reading all that

>> No.70754090

I'm unemployed retard so can anyone explain what makes Anycolor contract worse than normal common workplace contract ?

>> No.70754101

Huh. So it doesn't have the "This document has been translated from the Japanese original for reference purposes only. In the event of any
discrepancy between this translated document and the Japanese original, the original shall prevail." message? Or did I miss it

>> No.70754138

>>70754101
I watched it live, there was no such clause

>> No.70754147
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70754147

>>70753869
So, anyone want to pass it over to him?
He did Doki's analysis, based on Canadian law. He might be well qualified to see if their contract is binding in Canada.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaduN2xjuwg
https://twitter.com/IanRunkle

>> No.70754168

>>70754101
that is probably not legal but then again there's lots of shit in there that is probably not legal either.

>> No.70754257

>>70753869
so why did he skip 21? he was asked about it on stream but his answer was a vague "it's better if i don't show it".
he also skipped 22 at first but decided that it was fine to show near the end of the stream

>> No.70754338
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70754338

The only truly interesting thing to come out of this so far is Luca’s hag showing more proof that he breached the contract with zero consequences and continues to get put on a pedestal by AnyColor.

https://x.com/razielwarmonic/status/1765382808858484881

>> No.70754350
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>>70753869
What is the extent of the damage that this will cause to niji's reputation and is the impact negligible?

>> No.70754407

Article 28 means that once their time in Niji is up, the contract is no longer worth the paper it's written on.

It says that certain provisions are still applicable after the end of the contract, but does not include itself.

>> No.70754411
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>>70754090
Imagine being a wage slave living on a minimum wage, working your ass at McDonald's. You have no manager at all, and are responsible for any fuckups, including the machinery. If you want to quit, McDonald's can just ignore you and you'll have to work for them until they decide otherwise.
If you quit or get fired, you can't get hired in any other fastfood restaurant for 6 months.
Oh, and they own everything you used during your time in McDonald's. If the fryer broke and you asked them for a replacement, they could just ignore you, but you still have to make fries.
But once you quit, they're taking your fryer. Fuck you.
Also, they can change the contract anytime, and for example lower your wage at whim or increase your working hours at any time. You don't have to agree with the new contract. They'll just send it over to you by mail. If you come to work next day, it means you agreed to it.

>> No.70754419

>>70754338
HA
AHAHHSHAHAHSAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA

I CANT FUCKING WAIT TILL HE GETS TERMINATED

>> No.70754531

>>70754090
Nothing especially stands out. It's just usual corporate fuckery but it's nice to air that out every once in a while. People are making a big deal of some things they are obviously not reading properly as there's a reason you want a lawyer to go over a contract instead of trying to figure it out on your own though, so lots of drama being thrown around.

It all looks exactly as I expected though Niji is firmly on the 'exploitative' side of the exploitation vs collaboration scale. It's just a bit hard to compare without having contracts of other agencies to go by.

>> No.70754580

ANOTHER CONTRACT INCOMING

>> No.70754603

SAYU NDA INBOUND

>> No.70754609

>>70753869
massive disappointment and nothingburger

>> No.70754610

>>70753869
i don't care enough about any of this to read it. anything funny or interesting?

>> No.70754621
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>>70754338
I like seeing BTS stuff, they should share that more

>> No.70754673

>>70753869
Fuck, this thread or this thread >>70754050
?

>> No.70754684

>>70754350
Genuinely negligible outside of public opinion taking a hit as these standard contracts are still going to be pretty predatory despite being perfectly 'normal' otherwise.

Bigger issue is their desperate grasps at making their stock go up failing because the markets realise just how fucking toxic their shares are and everyone wants to get out but many are hoping for a bigger bounce before jumping.

>> No.70754727

>>70754621
It is kind of cool to see that, I imagine sisters are fapping to it while seething that it came from her.

>> No.70754751

>>70754610
I guess the biggest impact is the amount of clueless spergs who know nothing of contracts acting like basic shit is a big deal, which hopefully still damages Niji's reputation.

>> No.70754753

>>70754411
Also if you get fired, they could take back 50-100% of everything you earn when you're working for them

>> No.70754771

>>70754419
>TERMINATED
>luca
lol
lmao

>> No.70754785

>>70753869
Nijisanji is a multilevel marketing scam company LMAO

>> No.70754796

>>70754090
Well the trick is that most of the contract can't actually be enforced if signed with a foreigner especially in America. Most states have contracting laws that intentionally protect Americans from predatory foreign contracts. Another thing and all companies do this is they try to convince you that you can sign your rights away which you can't.

Like they can't actually prevent you from using roommate accounts or streaming outside of Nijisanji.

It's very funny. It is also worded very confusingly on purpose.

>> No.70754824

Can I get a tl;dr of anything interesting or particularly damning? All I overheard last night was the SC revenue split, which is pretty much the same as Hololive's.

>> No.70754869

>>70753960
dont worry anon, whoever at niji put this together probably had worse english than you.

>> No.70754926

>>70754338
>outside of taxes
?
She does taxes for him?

>> No.70754936

>>70754753
Like I said here: >>70754751
That 50-100% is the upper limit on what they can recoup in things like damages, cancelation of orders, events etc. Nothing more. There are some problematic implications here as they can be withholding payment in advance in expectation of termination but nothing to the effect of 'lol lmao they can take back your earnings exdee"

>> No.70754933

>>70754824
about 3/4ths of the contract would not hold up in US court. And the terms would without a shadow of a doubt qualify the liver as an employee, not an independent contractor

>> No.70754990

>>70754411
I wonder what Dobson's up to nowadays.

>> No.70755006
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>>70754338
>tfw this asshole had a hag gf who mommied him this hard
>and I don't
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>> No.70755008

>>70754411
NIJISANJI is the Andrew Dobson of vtuber corpos

>> No.70755027

>>70754933
Wonder if any JP would chime in to check if this would also hold in a japanese court. I mean, they give a lot of leeway to corpos, but I guess that's assuming they at least keep up the pretense and don't get outed like retards.

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>>70754411
>You have no manager at all, and are responsible for any fuckups, including the machinery. If you want to quit, McDonald's can just ignore you and you'll have to work for them until they decide otherwise.
>Oh, and they own everything you used during your time in McDonald's. If the fryer broke and you asked them for a replacement, they could just ignore you, but you still have to make fries.
But once you quit, they're taking your fryer. Fuck you.
So a franchise owner?

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>>70754338
lol

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>>70753869
Is this a spell that kills humans?

>> No.70755065

>>70754796
Does this mean that even if a liver in US or Canada signed that contract, it's still unenforceable/trash?

>> No.70755111

>>70754933
>It wouldn't hold up in US court
>US court protecting employees of a foreign company
Pick one. This is also still a template so many of these inferences are all sorts of nonsense. Such a contract would be specified based on the location of the employee which is OBVIOUSLY not done in a generic template.

Wake me up when people get their hands on an actual contract that isn't just some google translated unedited template that doesn't actually mean anything other than 'yeah a company is going to try and screw you over if you let them' which I fucking hope is common sense at this point.

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>>70754419

>> No.70755137

>>70754338
>she was more of a manager than actual niji managers
lol
LMAO

>> No.70755139

>>70754926
She was paid for being a manager.

>> No.70755143

>>70755034
Sort of, if the franchise owner was paid minimum wage.

>> No.70755150

>>70755061
It's a mnemonic kill agent to make sure nobody unauthorized sees the contract.
That weird feeling in your right temple? Don't think about it, just lay down.

>> No.70755181

>>70755027
if you take the case of Sayu the jp side actually doesn't really matter, as it's an employment agreement which wouldn't hold up to the Californian labour board. Making the entire contract void
in essence Sayu (and other californian nijisanji members) was never legally employed by anycolor if she signed the contract shown

>> No.70755186

>>70754090
It just has a lot of laughably unenforceable crap, some awkward wording at parts because it's probably MTL from japanese, and generally indicates that the management assumes just about zero responsibilities. The big things are that Anycolor can change the contract at any time and continuing your activity (or not responding at all) is taken as consent to the changes and that about half the contract's clauses are set to remain in effect even after the contract expires.

>> No.70755190

>you are paying to work with us and if we fuck up you are responsible. Good luck

>> No.70755192

>>70754990
The current theory is, due to a family member getting a big government job that required serious background checks, he nuked everything before they started looking into him.
Hopefully he got a regular job and became self aware.

>> No.70755230

>>70755137
Kind of sad that really does seem to be the case.

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70755239

>>70755006
You're missing out big time, man. I managed to bag a GF that was 8 years my senior when I started college and those were the best days of my life.

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>>70755061
It was this. Put there for completion.

>> No.70755288

>>70754338
it's also possible that they added that clause specifically because of her and luca

>> No.70755287

>>70754257
Went back to see what he said exactly, and it was "not necessary and annoying information" (in regards to 21 and 22), but 22 looks pretty important to me. When someone sc'd asking for it he was pretty firm in saying no too.
Timestamp is around 03:05:00.

Does anyone know the timestamp when 22 was shown? I can't find it

>> No.70755294

>>70755190
First time hearing about franchises?

>> No.70755303
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>>70755006
>literally all he had to do to keep her happy was say thank you and fuck her every so often
>couldn’t even manage that
unbelievable

>> No.70755356

>>70755057
explains the favorism

>> No.70755359

>>70755273
That looks like some sort of identifying line...why would he leave that in there?

>> No.70755388

>>70755137
they should do this subcontracting thing more often
oh wait...
>article 6
fuck

>> No.70755397

>>70755294
>>70755294
Franchises are treated better then Livers.

>> No.70755424

>>70755359
It sure does look like something Anycolor can use to identify who the leaker was
Professional lawyer btw

>> No.70755435

>>70754338
>gave her access to his corporate account
Hilarious, considering he showed up in a recent stream, makes me wonder if their employees go through compliance training at all, this is literally the first thing they teach you...
Breaking security policies is enough to get you terminated in most big corpos

>> No.70755442

>>70755061
It's a serial number. Anycolor now knows whose contract was leaked.
They also now have casus belli to terminate a liver or livers of their choosing over this leak, regardless of if it was their contract which was leaked, or whether or not they're the leaker.

In other words, whoever they were going to fire for bullying Doki will now instead be fired for leaking the contract, even if they did neither of those things.

>> No.70755450

>>70755111
The Californian labor board needs to approve labor contracts of foreign companies. Assuming the contract is in line with what sayu signed (even if it diverges slightly there is so much shit in there that directly opposes us and californian regulation) the contract would never be approved, and I'm certain that without a single doubt that Sayu was never legally employed by anycolor, as the contract itself wouldn't be considered legal.

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>>70755061
>>70755273
>>70755359
>>70755424
STOP LOOKING IN TO THINGS

>> No.70755514

>>70755442
And if this came from an organ that escaped them?

>> No.70755515

>>70755397
That depends entirely on the company, but the basic idea of a franchise is exactly what you said. You pay them money to use their brand, any fuck ups are your own. You will be held liable for damage you cause the brand etc.

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70755528

>>70755442
Can't terminate me if I'm already terminated :)

>> No.70755532

>>70755496
stop adding random dots to this ugly image so I can filter it already

>> No.70755556
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>> No.70755564

>>70755137
>kicks out his own manager
>numbers went to shit
no wonder

>> No.70755578

>>70755424
Doubtful. It was a template remember, why would they put identifying lines in a template?

>> No.70755579

>>70755287
Around 03:41:18

>> No.70755582

>>70755514
If it’s the Krisis member, he stated that they never had him sign any NDAs

>> No.70755584

>>70755424
that doesn't identify a leaker, only the specific document leaked.

>> No.70755656

>>70753960
https://x.com/KalNerevar/status/1765309731323752610?s=20 Here someone did a tl'dr on Twitter.

>> No.70755660

>>70753869
This is just usual corporate fuckery outside of the final articles which meant that this is a piece of paper outside of Japan

>> No.70755662

SAYU DMS AND NDA LLEEEEEEEEEEEKED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO8ERaDE8VU

>> No.70755668

>>70755450
That would favour AnyColor though, as that just means they never had to pay her anything and aren't liable for any outstanding payments. Just means she worked for free. Good luck to a California court getting a Japanese corpo to pay anything either.

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>>70754338
This time they will definitely terminate Luca, right?

>> No.70755680

>>70755034
is this actually correct? I googled average kfc franchisee owner income and you probably need at least 5~10+ years to get your initial investment back (maybe I miscount something).

>> No.70755685

>>70755388
Article 6 allows subcontracting if Anycolor agrees - no idea whether Luca did go through official channels though.

>> No.70755684

>>70754350
Negligible, if only because their reputation is already so bad it doesn't matter

>> No.70755688

ONE HOUR
ONE FUCKING HOUR

>> No.70755699

>>70755514
Doesn't matter. Management is out for blood, and someone on their shit list (probably Scarle) will pay the price. And like I said:

>regardless of if it was their contract which was leaked, or whether or not they're the leaker

>> No.70755708

>>70753960
Niji isn't obligated to do anything.
They can suspend/terminate you for any reason.
If they suspend you you're penalized 50% of last month's income.
If they terminate you you're penalized 100% of the last year's income.
If they terminate you you have to send them all of your streaming equipment.
You have to pay for all your streaming equipment out of pocket.
You have to handle all copyright issues and communication with any subcontractors (artists and video editors).
You can't hire an assistant.
If you have a conflict with another liver you have to report it immediately
Nijisanji isn't obligated to mediate any conflict between livers.
If you're sued for copyright violation you're on the hook for it, not Nijisanji.
You are required to work where Nijisanji tells you to work, so they can require you to move to Japan.
They can amend the contract at any time and if you so much as tweet on your liver account that counts as acceptance.
Nijisanji isn't the Yakuza (yes, this is in the contract).

>> No.70755729

>>70755662
Sayu gave Legal Mindset her DMs and exit contract apparently.

LM is discussing it right now.

>> No.70755730

>>70755287
thanks for correcting me, i misremembered

>> No.70755787

What a year, huh?

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>>70754338
Thank you Luca for being absolutely retarded

>> No.70755825

>>70755287
It's in the OP pic

>> No.70755853

>>70755668
Yes, but it'd also mean that anycolor doesn't have any legal counter to whatever she could or has said, the sword cuts both ways. Remember that NDA's don't hold up in Cali

>> No.70755861

>>70755065
Yes, the only reason anyone would respect is is if they don't want to be caught in a spurious lawsuit from NIji. The lawsuit wouldn't do anything but waste time and money.

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>>70753869
If I print this out and sign it, do I become a Niji?

>> No.70755887

>>70755239
yeah, but how?

>>70755303
sounds hard

>> No.70755895

>>70755679
Right now they can't do SHIT because things are too on fire.

>> No.70755896

>>70755662
LET'S GOOOOOOO

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>>70754050
>>70754050
>>70754050
Get in here niggers

>> No.70755910

>>70753869
I don't care from what indie hole you come from but who would sign THIS ?!?!?

>> No.70755924

>>70755870
Even better, post it on /x/, the retards there salivate at the idea of selling their souls to an evil entity

>> No.70755925

>>70754101
i kept waiting and waiting for that clause, but it never came. i'm accustomed to seeing that near the top of page 1.

>> No.70755926

>>70753973
Considering he fucked off from Nijisanji early he is the smartest one out there

>> No.70755945

>>70755870
Honestly they're so incompetent that I wouldn't be surprised if you did.

>> No.70755951

>>70755787
It's only March 6th, Captain.

>> No.70755955

>>70754419
Think about Yoshitaka-san... >>70755057

>> No.70755962

>>70755656
>once the contract ends livers need to return anything they used to work
This isn’t what was written, it was anything that ANYCOLOR gives them needs to be returned after the contract ends, they can’t have you return that switch you bought in your first year or whatever

>> No.70755968

>>70755870
both parties need to acknowledge the contract, and I doubt niji is desperate enough to sign contract with rando.

>> No.70755995

Fyi the organized crime part is a boilerplate thing required in all Japanese contracts due to anti Yakuza laws in Japan it's nothing special.

>> No.70756014

>>70755294
they are employers anon. Niji fucked up trying to control them so much. KEK

>> No.70756041

"Virtual Livers" isn't in the defined terms of any contract we've seen. does it mean "VTuber" as defined in the contract we saw last night? if so, why don't they use the matching defined term?

>> No.70756046

>>70755853
Sure. But the problem is that if Sayu starts to fling mud at AnyColor that will make it more difficult for her to find work at another company regardless. Not saying she can't but for most people that would be really unwise, which is why Dokibird for example isn't saying anything even though legally she could. Being a known source of drama/conflict can really harm your prospects.

Regardless. If the contract gets voided that is entirely to the benefit of AnyColor, who own the channels, the IPs, the social media accounts etc. and directly receive all the money. They don't need to get anything out of their former talents.

>> No.70756083

>>70755968
ACCELERATE made easier

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>>70755656

>> No.70756151

>ruh-roh spaghetti-o's
I FUCKING MISS HER
https://streamable.com/9yrpj3

>> No.70756155

Zionists, I thought you said Sayu had already moved on from this whole affair?

>> No.70756216

>>70753869
This is infuriating to read let alone sign
I would send it back with a fuck you written on it

>> No.70756224

>>70755668
It's the opposite, you ALWAYS have to be paid for your work, if there was no contract the court will just decide what they think you deserve to get paid, and they basically start as high as possible (like e.g: assuming any work done past 6pm is overtime and stuff like that)

>> No.70756249

>>70756216
Hurry you only have an hour.

>> No.70756254

>>70755137
KEK

>> No.70756364

>>70756046
>If the contract gets voided that is entirely to the benefit of AnyColor, who own the channels, the IPs, the social media accounts etc. and directly receive all the money.
They get all those things if it's valid too so that doesn't really matter I think
Going scorched earth like this will look bad on Sayu in a corporate view, but this will also look very bad on anycolor's reputation for overseas expansion (which is one of their main goals they've promised to their shareholders)
Being known to hand out slave contracts to members (which have a good chance of not even being valid contracts in the first place) doesn't seem like it'd inspire the new gura/salmone or kuzuha to join the company

>> No.70756380

>>70756155
She keeps trying but
https://youtu.be/CWXoOEsHguk?si=Tu_3v-g1vFGFKoJH
She keeps getting pulled back in.

>> No.70756430

>>70756155
>noooo you can't defend yourself when injustice was done to you

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>>70756364
Don't kid yourself. There are still hundred or even thousand people willing to join nijisanji even on that slave term.

>> No.70756508

>>70756444
sisters that want vox or uki cock are not viable streamers

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70756516

>>70756155
It's not her problem anymore

>> No.70756543

>>70755065
it is, but that doesn't stop Anycolor from resorting to underhanded tactics, like SLAPP lawsuits or even industry-wide blacklists. remember, Anycolor is NOT a Yakuza organization.

>> No.70756558

>>70756364
>Going scorched earth like this will look bad on Sayu in a corporate view
Niji already made sure she looked like Vtuber Hitler

>> No.70756576

better call saul is going balistic

>> No.70756577

>Article 11
I love my Niji Family

>> No.70756588

lawyer-kun flat out threatens nijisanji to try holy kek

>> No.70756599

>>70756155
She has literally said "Sometimes it's fine to not move on" before, her content has moved on; she hasn't

>> No.70756614

>>70756444
Haven't we had 1 or 2 livers drop out of the last 3 generations before debut?

>> No.70756656

>>70756599
Based, fuck anyone who tries to tell her to be the better woman

>> No.70756681

>>70756508
just train them first, set the contract for 5 years or something before you can quit.

>> No.70756702

>>70755708
Jesus Christ, who the fuck would sign that?

>> No.70756728
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70756728

>>70755955
>Mr. Yoshitaka is personally accountable for Luxiem numbers. If you and your sister friends aren't completely freaked out with fujo bait, then he will be fired. This will dishonor his family, which he can restore only by taking his own life with a sword.

>> No.70756791

>>70756702
I would. It's totally unenforceable. So you could join, utilize the old buff for a year, dip to indie and completely ignore their emails. Even better if you get terminated to a bunch of drama and get a drama buff on the way out. Shortcut out of 1 or 2view.

>> No.70756834

>>70756444
There probably are thousands of people willing to join, but how many of those are premier tier vtubers. A larger indie vtuber has many seemingly better options available to them

>>70756558
True, you could make an argument that anycolor went scorched earth first

>> No.70756960

>>70755799
>Luca being somewhat professional
Leaking shit aside, him tardrangling his group that don't give a shit is somewhat admirable if only because it's relatable.

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>>70753869
THIS GUY IS THE FACE OF VTUBING NOW
>the gigachad even made a fauna joke
Dammit somebody give this guy a Vtuber model.

>> No.70756970

>>70754338
If anybody ever said that there's no favoritism in Nijisanji, they're wrong.

>> No.70757009

>>70755656
uh...

>> No.70757025

>livers can't expect to get paid
>only reason to work is fear of punishment
>therefore contract is more akin to slavery then employment
>no clause in japanese employment laws that prohibits slavery

ICHIKARA DID NOTHING WRONG PLEASE STOP HARASSING

>> No.70757044

>>70756702
Idiots who don't read contracts (most people) and idiots who think they have magical law powers like >>70756791
Signing bad things that are "unenforceable" is still retarded.

>> No.70757056

>>70756964
He's already getting one

>> No.70757079

>>70756791
You'd be losing A LOT of your own money to do that.

>> No.70757100

>>70757025
kek

>> No.70757176

>>70754147
I don't think Runkle would say anything different or have anything substantial to add here, and Canadian laws are stricter not looser here. It also doesn't practically change his initial analysis where taking one of the parties to court in their respective countries is useless.

>> No.70757183

>>70756834
So? Just train them from scratch. Sora, Shion, haachama are just dumb inexperienced high schooler when they first started. Sure nijisanji can't no longer capitalize on existing streamer pool anymore, but they lack loyalty to stay in nijisanji anwyay.

>> No.70757195

>>70755442
>>70755514
Nijisanji for all intents and purposes can't do shit because until the contract is signed it isn't confidential.

>> No.70757212
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Are Niji organs illiterate or something? Who in their right mind would sign such a contract??

>> No.70757213

Happening thread >>70754050

>> No.70757223

>>70755708
>If they terminate you you have to send them all of your streaming equipment.
>You have to pay for all your streaming equipment out of pocket.
Wait, what? How does that work? Is there a room in Niji HQ full of requisitioned streaming equipment of ex-livers? Do they run a parallel buisness of reselling streaming equipment on AliExpress or something?
>Nijisanji isn't the Yakuza
You know, I wouldn't have dreamed about it before, but the fact that they felt the need to specify it means that they definitely have ties to the Yakuza, don't they?

>> No.70757243

I LOVE MY PARTY A FAMILY

>> No.70757251

>>70757056
Hope he uses it as the intended use for an avatar.
>those times when you're not ready and something drops out of nowhere and you want to cover it
For other things, he'd just stream as usual.

>> No.70757342

>>70756702
the idea of being famous in itself is enough for most people even if the money and conditions are worse then other thigns they could do its just the idea of being famous itself

>> No.70757370

>>70753869
Lmfao dealing with a devil is literally miles better than signing a contract with Nijisanji.

>> No.70757406

>>70754338
>>70755057
>>70755799
Sisters, what the fuck is this!?
EMERGENCY MEETING ON THE DOXXSITE NOW!

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>>70757183
Niji already does this...
It clearly hasn't worked

>> No.70757440

>>70757223
>it means that they definitely have ties to the Yakuza, don't they?
Yep. Like the Offkai retards.
>false wants to start drama saying some people have been rejected from offkai, maybe because of doki?
>everyone is ready to clown on him for dramabaiting
>offkai literally replies to him
>"btw we're not officially affiliated with nijisanji"
>don't even address the rejections, just the niji implication

>> No.70757517

>>70757223
No, the yakuza thing is normal in Japan. There are a series of anti-organized crime laws to limit the ability of the Yakuza to operate.

>> No.70757590

>>70757223
>How does that work
It doesn't. Nobody is going to pay Nijisanji a dime after they graduate or get terminated.

>> No.70757608

>>70756702
Same is IRL: Desperate people.
I've seen similar contracts in some of the codemonkey companies I worked with.

>> No.70757617

>>70753869
That shit would never fly with the laws we have in my country. Glad I am not working under this contract.

>> No.70757659

>>70757223
>Wait, what? How does that work?
It's likely just poor wording. They probably just want their phone back, but phrased it in such a way that they can request your personal equipment. This contract is everything they COULD do, not everything they have to or will do. There's specifically very little they HAVE to do. All the haves are on the streamer's side.

>You know, I wouldn't have dreamed about it before, but the fact that they felt the need to specify it means that they definitely have ties to the Yakuza, don't they?
It's normal in Japan. I don't know the history of it, but I know it's a common thing.

>> No.70757667

>>70754338
>The only truly interesting thing to come out of this so far is Luca’s hag showing more proof that he breached the contract with zero consequences and continues to get put on a pedestal by AnyColor.
Uki should be terminated too since he also broke a contract clause.

>> No.70757690

>>70757079
What money? 2views don't get money. Part of the whole streamer industry is working for possible years on end for no pay in the hope of a breakthrough. This contract, exploitative as it is, is still a dream come true and miles better than slaving away for years as an indie to 10~ viewers.

>> No.70757703

>>70756964
After all this niji drama dies down, you think he'll be a darling of vtuber fans still? Not sarcastic, just asking honest thoughts.

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>>70757617
It wouldn't fly in Japanese court either. Niji literally lost lawsuits in Japan. All this exists to scare vtubers into not trying to go against them.

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>>70757406
already underway

>> No.70757736

>>70753973
He left Niji basically as soon as the first contract expired. He's basically the Einstein of VTubers.

>> No.70757754

well considering most of the contract is unenforceable it's a valid strategy to sign on with nijisanji for a temporary fame boost and then discreetly funnel all of your fans to your private account

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>>70755708
Sounds like a total nightmare. It's almost like selling your soul to the devil.

>> No.70757789

>>70757754
That certainly looks to be the optimal play.

>> No.70757824

>>70757690
Have you seen the more recent waves? They are literally 2 views that make like 100 bux a week.

>> No.70757839

Lmao he just confirmed that the Offkai debacle was because nijisanji didn't respond in a timely manner to Offkai letting them know they were removing Ethyria.
False just lit the fire under their (Offkai) asses.

>> No.70757840

>>70757776
Welcome to the entertainment industry, I guess?

>> No.70757883

>>70757079
Best case scenario: You don't talk shit and they don't sue you because it's a waste of money on their end.
Worst case scenario: They actually sue you and you throw up a gofundme and cry on stream. If you retained 1k viewers then you're pretty much fine. If you retained less you just need to play it to the right ears and try to avoid coming off as the manipulative bitch you are for intentionally going down this path. It's all an annoying hassle.

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>>70755962
check again

>> No.70757915

>>70757754
So the Niji buff is more like the Niji stepping stone?

>> No.70757987

>>70757839
elira was busy sucking dick please understand

>> No.70757989

>>70755962
See, the fact that the contract says this is why everyone's making fun of it.

>> No.70758017

>>70757901
holy sweatshop, they even own the empty cans and soda bottles the livers leave behind

>> No.70758034

>>70754338
Agent LK, you're in too deep, get out immediately

>> No.70758041

>>70758017
Think of how much they can sell for? Second hand kisses!

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>>70757736
He never joined. He saw the contract and 180'd out. That's why the Krisis wave is missing that jetpack guy.

>> No.70758061

>>70755515
While i get your point, the nuance here that at least with McDonald's you use their popular products like Big Mac that previous generations have created gor you to reap from
Niji however only offers you clout for being a niji liver; you still have to put meaning and value to whatever model they give you

>> No.70758066

>>70757754
The problem is that at first sign of conflict when the terms are to be used, you could break the contract then or continue playing along. When do you pull the trigger if not then? Very hard game and I would not want to play.
>>70757789
Only when you have an audience following and community connections like Selen would you be able to pull it off. Did not work for Zaion or others terminated at all until recently.

>> No.70758104

>>70754338
Hypocrisy is a Nijisanji Family™ value

>> No.70758111

>>70758048
>they could've had mecha kino
what a shame

>> No.70758149

>>70757212
Women are incredibly fucking retarded

>> No.70758150
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>AnyColor can just terminate your contract for any reason with you having no recourse whatsoever
>when AnyColor terminates your contract you owe them 50% of EVERYTHING YOU HAVE EVER MADE while working at Niji as termination penalty
That's fucking horrible, what the fuck lmao

>> No.70758153

>>70753869
Welcome to the March yab motherfuckers. A week before investors meeting.

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>> No.70758216

>>70757915
NTA but i've never heard of mint or doki before niji. It's kind of a stepping stone but with a really low ceiling. I wonder if pomu wouldn't become a 4view after her 6 month gag order

>> No.70758286

>>70755708
That's insane wtf

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>>70758150
You signed the contract plus we gave you 1 hour to read it.

>> No.70758341

>>70755708
>You are required to work where Nijisanji tells you to work, so they can require you to move to Japan
JESAS did Petra get Niji'ed to Japan?

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>>70757212
>I will die for PARTY A (Nijisanji)
...

>> No.70758414

>>70758017
There is a room in nijisanji HQ full of piss bottles.

>> No.70758451

>>70753869
Just came back from wageslavery. Any guesses on who leaked this shit?

>> No.70758496

>>70758451
The CIA

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>>70755708
>If they suspend you you're penalized 50% of last month's income.
>If they terminate you you're penalized 100% of the last year's income.
>If they terminate you you have to send them all of your streaming equipment.
>If they terminate you you have to send them all of your streaming equipment.
Mcfucking excuse me? This is a joke right? You're just baiting me because I'm too much of a lazy fuck to read the whole thing right?

>> No.70758582

>>70758451
notPomu or some new recruit that jumped ship

>> No.70758584

>>70758517
Penalties are in the late 20's if you want to skim it.

>> No.70758605

>>70758517
We always meme'd it, but I never thought it was actually THIS bad. Pretty disturbing.

>> No.70758626

>>70758517
I mean it's depending on how badly they are enforcing the contract. I don't think they are insane enough to even take away liver's PC just because it's used for content production, but the clause is there to give massive advantage in some unique case or situation.

>> No.70758629

>>70758451
The fifth nijihomo that jumped ship

>> No.70758631

>>70756791
>sign a contract that tells you youll become a slave
>haha its not enforcable anyway
>i am invincible!
you are a moron if youd sign that

>> No.70758634

>>70758517 (Me)
I meant to quote the
>You have to pay for all your streaming equipment out of pocket.

>> No.70758641

>>70758517
niji doesn't even buy the livers the streaming phones. this company is funny and very malicious

>> No.70758653

>>70758341
I mean technically that's normal, I've seen job descriptions where they tell you it might be required to relocate. It's just the combination with the termination/leaving clause that fucks the livers over hard.

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>>70755057
WAIT

This is from the board of directors and officers page on the Niji site.

Look at the name.

>> No.70758676

>>70758451
100% Sayu, it even has her PM

>> No.70758689

>>70758626
Selen had a gaming PC on her Doki throne immediately after the termination letter.

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>>70758517
>Breaching contract (ie rule violation that doesn't get them fired outright, potentially suspended) = 50% of the income that occurred since the breach OR 50% of the income from the last 12 months - whichever is higher
>Termination of contract (forced graduation by the company) = 50% of the income you made since you initially signed the contract + everything that can be considered equipment and material used for your employment in Nijisanji needs to be turned over to AnyColor

>> No.70758720

>>70758517
Le retard de Vox "you can just graduate (and pay the company a tithe upon your release from bondage)" Akuma

>> No.70758736

>>70753869
AnyColor should count itself lucky that it is not based somewhere with strict labor laws. That looks illegal to me, in so many ways.

>> No.70758748

>>70758341
Yugo did, but that was because of an ESL misunderstanding

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqmylZQVJxk&t

>> No.70758762

>>70758517
What did you expect to keep your streaming phone?

>> No.70758779

>>70758676
Nope. Sayu's PM was in the silencing contract thing, separate from this leak.

>> No.70758782

>>70755006
>>70755303
https://youtu.be/dpKc8N3FJsQ?si=lP0rQTKhMn6EYpWM

>> No.70758805

>>70758667
DELETE THIS

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>>70757703
we got a sister over here
hes a dramafaggot that is trying to relive his popularity during the amber-depp case. /vt/ourists are bending over so he has easier access. He is picrel. Vtubing will be overrun by more normies and itll be destroyed.

>> No.70758865

>>70758667
juicy

>> No.70758869
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>>70755708
>from vantablack to black hole levels of black

>> No.70758871

>>70758175
i wanted to make a mod of it. Yesterday of missing or KIA you would get graduated or suspended.

>> No.70758901

>>70758748
DAMN MY HUSBAND SO CUTE

>> No.70758921

Someone really went through the effort to write that lmao

>> No.70758935

>>70755556
Good thing she didn't sign it.

>> No.70758937

>>70758667
holy shit
KEK

>> No.70758954

>>70758667
I KNEEEEEL

>> No.70758966

>>70753869
This just looks like a standard work contract

>> No.70758971

So basically all the NijiENs that defended the company were just scared fucking shitless of being terminated and ending up in crippling life destroying debt from the penalty payments lmao

>> No.70758980
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>some organ who's in Japan does an offcollab
>her house was used for streaming
>said vtuber gets terminated and has to turn over everything that was used for streaming
>this now includes the formerly organ's house
Am I thinking too hard about it or is this a real possibility?

>> No.70759006

>>70758667
Does he still work in Nijisanji?

>> No.70759054

>>70758341
NIJIS ARE UNDER HOUSE ARREST IN JAPAN. ANYCOLOR HAS FORCED THEM TO STAY IN JAPAN SO THAT THEY ARE FORCED TO ABIDE BY THE CONTRACT UNDER LOCAL LAW. TOTAL NIJJER DEATH CURRENTLY IN PROCESS. ALL LIVERS TO BE PUT IN JAIL FOR NIJIEN

>>70758980
There is a reason they are making billions off of 2views.

>> No.70759089

>>70758980
If you follow the English translation of that contract we saw to the letter, yes.
It's obviously not gonna hold up in any court in the world though, not in Japan, not in whatever shithole SEA country AnyColors lawyers crawled out of.

>> No.70759092

>>70758980
You know for a fact if they could they would argue your house is part of your streaming equipment thus it should be turned over.

>> No.70759096

>>70758980
why do you think both petra and elira have moved to japan "for work"?

>> No.70759110

>>70758818
Why u so mad? LOL

>> No.70759121

>>70755442
>whoever they were going to fire for bullying Doki will now instead be fired for leaking the contract, even if they did neither of those things.
How would that not immediately backfire the second said liver looks at their contract and sees the number is different from the one that's all over the internet?

>> No.70759159

>>70759006
His name is still listed on their site but he hasn't tweeted anything since wait.
He hasnt tweeted anything since the Zaion stuff happened.

>> No.70759186

>>70754338
Watch him get off scot-free lmaoo

>> No.70759198

>>70759159
ZAION WAS MANAGEMENT

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>>70758980
I can't wait for Petra to be homeless and clothless.

>> No.70759238

>>70758689
I think it's more for situation like this
>liver x built or ordered certain physical prop for content production
>by the time of x's graduation/termination, said prop had become such valuable item that it might affect nijisanji somehow (maybe the final work of famous artist, or it was accidentally built with super rare material not found on earth)
>nijisanji now had the legal right to 'steal' said item since you agreed to that agreement even if you paid that item out of your pocket.
sure this kind situation is super rare and probably would never happen to nijisanji, but it's better (for nijisanji) to be prepared. Basically similar to World of Warcraft remake where blizzard owns everything built on their map editor.

>> No.70759240

>>70758667
so he's the one responsible for all overseas projects, including india, korea, and indonesia, before nijiEN came? maybe that's why he's thankful for the "success" of nijiEN and pushed all-in on luxiem after all those collapses and failures.

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>>70755119
He's even got the revolver

>> No.70759327

>>70759206
She's gonna have to find a Job Class change at Hello Work and fumble her way into being the new owner of a Japanese confectionary.

>> No.70759332

>>70753869
Ok I have read enough nonsense around this thread. There is no law except in third world countries that doesn't protect from absurd contracts. This is the same.
For example, they cannot force shit on Doki if she's in Canada. Not only that, they can't terminate a contract and have surviving articles that work on current activities except if they are specifically written "in case of termination of the contract".
Most of this is spook once you leave the company, except the fact they can seize everything that they can put hands on. And if you live in Japan, you don't get enslaved, you can declare bankrupt as an individual and get the hell out.
Of course, then good luck living in Japan, it will be impossible to even get any decent job, so for someone like Elira this is living hell.

>> No.70759366

>>70753869
Yet again, the leaker is confirmed real.
He even said he should have read the contract, and he is ashamed he didn't.
He even said he can't get leave, because he'd have to pay out the ass and go bankrupt, basically.
Lmao, maybe the nijileaker actually gave the contract to legal mindset.

>> No.70759410

>>70753869
YAB

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>>70758869
Black company.

>> No.70759450

>>70753869
What I got from this is that I should start a v-tuber agency because women are fucking retarded and will sign anything.

>> No.70759466

>>70759206
Her language skills alone are worth their weight in gold alone on top of whatever she was studying for, She can easily get a job outside Vtubing and make bank. The only problem is that she would never do Vtubing ever again if that is the case.

>> No.70759467

>>70759206
h-hot

>> No.70759474

>>70754038
The lawyer said he skimmed through a couple of articles in the contract for some reason, and that he wouldn't expand on the reason. Maybe they contain company info that would get him in trouble? Who knows.
He said people can pause the video where he is skimming through the pages, to read them themselves if they can find the frames.

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>>70755708
>Nijisanji isn't obligated to mediate any conflict between livers.
Bullying is allowed letsgooooooooooooooooooooooooo

>> No.70759507

>>70759366
That was my suspicion too.

LEAKER-SAN IF YOU'RE THERE PLEASE VERIFY

>> No.70759528

>>70759450
well theres that socks dude, so kino is underway.

>> No.70759531

>>70759466
she has to give up her languages to niji too

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the rrats are spiraling out of control

>> No.70759581

>>70759491
So it was not just a meme? yikes

>> No.70759588

>>70759466
>Her language skills alone are worth their weight in gold alone
8 dollars/h as a nijien manager.

>> No.70759593

>>70755910
Chinks who believe in an ideology that the state owns everything you do anyway, dirty third-world Indonesians and other SEA who are so poor they'll sign anything for a wage and weird fuckboys with tons of skeletons in the closet that want to be drooled over by all the above like they are a BTS member.

>> No.70759595

>>70758517
If I survived a suicide attempt they wouldn't even get their iphone back. Fuck you, come get it.

>> No.70759630

>>70757776
The devil's contract would at least be 100% legible in your native language and competently put together.

>> No.70759631

ITS HIM!!

>> No.70759643

Don't worry, this onoy applies to the EN branch, the JP branch is healthy and well, they treat employees right.

>> No.70759681

>>70759491
>the stream that pomu dipped out of was actually real
holy SHIT

>> No.70759686

>>70759206
Petra's cute naked butt running down the street...

>> No.70759690

>>70759450
Wactor still get applications despite treating their girls like prostitutes (one girl said she was forced to do lewd asmr or sleep with staff) and doxxing them if they leave.

>> No.70759740

>>70759450
Correct. Note all the trash agencies that are dying this year that still got applicants.

>> No.70759738

>>70759327
>Like a Liver: Infinite Superchats starts with Dokibird helping former Nijisanji talents reintegrate into society after the company dissolves
kino

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>>70755708
>Nijisanji isn't the Yakuza (yes, this is in the contract).
It's so disturbing it's almost funny

>> No.70759791

>>70759643
Because JP only have to travel a few hours to rape them for slandering them.

>> No.70759825

>>70759450
If a sentient piece of sock is planning to start of a vtuber agency, you can too!

>> No.70759848

I mean, we know it can be fought back. Doki lawyered up and they terminated her. Pomu is probably on that 6 month non-competitive streak and that's why all she does is vlogging.

I was sad for whoever was out but holy shit they literally got out of a fucking Prison Camp. Holo is memeing it on Twitter while Niji did the real shit.

>> No.70759854

>>70759595
>God gave me the right to turn my home into a tomb for Nijisanji and thieves.

>> No.70759868

>>70759740
What about a pyramid scheme vtuber agency?
Just pay an artist to prepare a few dozen cheap pngtuber design and give incentives for vtubers to bring in more people as vtubers but add a bunch of costs like they have to pay to have the pngtuber image, etc.

>> No.70759897

>>70759767
this situation is funny but you will find that section in nearly every japanese contract
it's so either party can back out if the other turns out as yakuza/organized crime

>> No.70759901

>>70757223
>the fact that they felt the need to specify it means that they definitely have ties to the Yakuza, don't they?
standard legalese because Japanese companies get audited for having ties to antisocial forces so they have to always denounce it

>> No.70759925

>>70759767
I thought it was a satirical edit at first, what the fuck man

>> No.70759969
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MOD DELETE THIS THREAD

YOU HAVE 1 HOUR TO AGREE TO MY DEMAND

>> No.70759983

>>70759868
Make them NFTs and you'll get two retarded groups of people applying.

>> No.70759986

>>70759925
It’s a legal requirement in Japan to put that in the contract for some reason

>> No.70760011

>>70755708
Good list anon but you forgot:
>They're not obligated to reimburse you if they don't deem it necessary.
Let's add all the red flags in the contract to cover 100% of the bullshit.

>> No.70760023

>>70759643
In most Japanese companies women are treated like hostesses who pour drinks for corporate management while enduring sexual harassment to get on their good side. I imagine most of the Japanese Vtubers are treated as meat and if they could fuck the EN members and have them perform like monkeys for them in Japan they would. There was a MeToo movement in Japan about this for about 5 minutes before they all got scared to lose their jobs.

>> No.70760038

>>70759983
Bruh, you are a moron. The new fad is AI. Make Neuros and they don't even need a payment!
...Oh my god, the Turtle is gonna be the new Riku.

>> No.70760041

>>70755359
IT'S A SHA256 HASH FOR FUCK'S SAKE

it's to determine authenticity of the document, to prevent stealth amendments and tampering

ARE YOU ALL FUCKING UNEMPLOYED

>> No.70760044

>>70759986
>>70759901
>>70759897
explain how Kiryu Coco was allowed to work in Hololive then

>> No.70760053

>>70759925
this part is probably normal, just like they outright ask you if you are a terrorist during immigration or some shit.

>> No.70760067

https://twitter.com/GHOSTDATA_/status/1765399348962001100
https://twitter.com/GHOSTDATA_/status/1765426264720994541
lol

>> No.70760109

>>70760011
That's why I just ignored that and said
>You have to pay for all your streaming equipment out of pocket.

If its optional then it's not real.

>> No.70760132

>>70760044
i know this is a joke but i think these clauses help coco joke and larp about being yakuza without getting into public trouble

>> No.70760147

>>70755870
>If I print this out and sign it, do I become a Niji?
Actually yes, If the nijiniggers sign it without reading the amendments it becomes a valid contract.

>> No.70760173

>>70755708
Black company isn't a enough term, this is literally a void

>> No.70760196

>>70760067
TF is this?

>> No.70760215

>>70760067
This contract releasing right before the shareholder meeting is a disaster, so happy I am not working damage control for this mess.

>> No.70760224

>>70760038
I am now seriously considering this.
Use AI to generate pngtuber image -> have people who wants to join my agency pay for said image for some reason like the agency actually owns the design and is only loaning it out to them -> gives benefits if they can get more people to join the agency

>> No.70760352

>>70756702
thats the same reason why most musicians have problems with they labels, when they promise you fame most people dont even read a shit

>> No.70760383

>>70760215
Riku can bail and avoid all problems. New CEO could literally decide to propose a full contract renegotiation and become basically a walking god on earth, or continue the shit.
Or company gets liquidated and everyone gets their shit back.

>> No.70760386

>>70755708
Holy fucking shit the Yakuza part is real. For anyone not wanting to bother reading:
>Article 26: Each party hereby represents and warrants that currently it is not an organized crime group

>> No.70760392

>>70760224
Also selling to the contractors a bunch of AI generated scripts to "support" them in doing their streams.

>> No.70760505

>>70760386
Anon, this is a legally required JP thing

>> No.70760517

> numbers + lowercase letters a-z
Why in the fuck does it look like a crypto wallet?
I am a boomer when it comes to crypto, but I do know that all the transactions are public and immutable. Can anyone run this through some sort of search engine?

>> No.70760518

>>70760224
I'm pretty sure Pippa stumbled into something like this and created FlaVR by accident. The major difference is that all of that was not for profit beyond the scope of the original stream.

>> No.70760534

>>70760392
I mean, unironically Neuro. This is not even us memeing, it has already proven to be 100% working, people will superchat and buy merchandise.

>> No.70760538

>>70755887
Step 1 is to look like you care about your appearance.

>> No.70760594

>>70759054
I wouldn't be surprised honestly. Force Elira to move to Japan or owe all of the money she made last year. And now she is trapped under JP law.

>> No.70760600

>>70760224
Don't forget to force them to buy training and certification classes which is just a bunch of slideshows and a multiple choice test.
I will never forgive my mom for making me sit through that brainwashing shit.

>> No.70760635

>>70759531
The brain is used for streaming, so....

>> No.70760636

>>70760386
>go to the US
>have to fill outa questionnaire for visa
>One of the questions is 'Are you part of any terrorist group?'

>> No.70760686

>>70760594
Again, there is no "being trapped" in Japan. It's a shithole but not Saudi Arabia. You can declare bankruptcy as an individual.
Then of course you have to restart from nothing, with a blacklist mark on your back across the country, but beats slavery.

>> No.70760751

>>70760600
Oh yeah, finally I can use my google forms experience to good use.

>> No.70760762
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Has Niji crossed the "Wactor" threshold for being an actual black company yet?

>> No.70760770

>>70760636
Not a burger but that's better than having to declare that you're not a terrorist on every form you sign...

>> No.70760784

>>70760686
You have to remember that the average NijiEN liver is a terrified idiot, so something like declaring bankruptcy and starting over isn't something they'd do.

>> No.70760805

>>70760762
Slavery vs slavery + prostitution and forced drug use
It'll be hard to beat Wactor without being an actual drug gang.

>> No.70760840

>>70760762
That Elira JAV some anons are dreaming about isn't out yet

>> No.70760857

>>70760762
Honestly, I bet Wactor's contract is somehow worse, but holy shit they are both black companies. Not even a fucking doubt.
Whoever signs up with them from now on, we can legitimately shit on them.

>> No.70760892

>>70760196
Ghost data was working with Feesh. He aint happy boi.

>> No.70760893

>>70760762
Soon their ex-talents may indeed need to become fleshtubers

>> No.70760927

>>70760762
No

>> No.70760989

>>70760784
Well, Doki lawyered up. Matara, Kuro and Kyo got out fine. Pomu is TOTALLY in that 6 month clause, She got to leave earlier in exchange of enforcing that, that's why she is vlogging, literally keeping herself relevant and loved without breaking the rule by being a Vtuber.

>> No.70760995

>>70760686
>You are not trapped, you simply become a hobo in japan!
So much better!

>> No.70761061

>>70760995
To be honest, did Elira went full retard and changed citizenship? She can get to the embassy and ask for repatriation once bankrupt. At least she gets to be an hobo in Canada.

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>>70760762
To beat Wactor they would need to leak a rape video of talents being sold to fat old men or something.

>> No.70761108

>>70760989
The 6 month clause, as written, only applies to continuing on as Pomu. She could start up as another character at any time.

>> No.70761146

>>70761105
>Elira JAV actually comes out.
>Wactor: "Finally, I'm not the worse anymore!"

>> No.70761159

>>70760805
>slavery + prostitution and forced drug use
what the hell...

>> No.70761166

>>70755450
Even if any color considered them contractors and not employees, there's not a single court in the US/Canada that would agree given the amount of control any color exerts over their "contractors."

>> No.70761176

>>70760109
It's not only equipment it can be pretty much anything if the liver commision art, music, 3d models,etc, they pay first and kurosanji decides if they will reimburse you.
The only thing they do reimburse 100% it's travel expenses ONLY if they call you to JP also:
>you have one month to report expenses or they won't reimburse you

>> No.70761196

>>70760995
kek, although it’s not actual slavery, a black stain on your name is pretty close to being a filthy beast, societally. Not even ex-cons in the States get that kind of treatment everywhere they go.

>> No.70761205

>>70760995
>I used to be a popular vtuber but now I am a hobo prostitute living in Japanese park?!

New Narou hit in the making.

>> No.70761224

>>70761159
Yeah, check into the Wactor stuff, it was pretty wild.

>> No.70761235

All this for not fucking approving Selen's Last Cup of Coffee.

>> No.70761286

>>70761235
Funny how this worked out. They could've just played nice with Selen.

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How did I do chat?

>> No.70761332
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>>70761235
coffeeGODS stay winning

>> No.70761362

>>70760805
>prostitution and forced drug use
Qrd?

>> No.70761367

>>70761235
All this for literally wanting to ruin her to not have to deal with a Pomu+Selen graduating so close that would have made the investors go "what the fuck is going on?"
Or maybe Selen accidentally made clear she was gonna be Doki once graduated and they decided to try to force her to sign something worse.

But yes, they have only themselves to blame.

>> No.70761403

>>70757667
Contract violations are mostly an excuse for when they want you gone.

>> No.70761434

>>70761235
I do so ponder as to what they were thinking. This isn’t the first time they screwed her over, but it certainly is odd they chose this hill.

>> No.70761513

>>70761291
We will build that Third Temple in your honor Queen.

>> No.70761514

>>70761403
Yes but the point is that we now have real proof Selen termination is double standards when they have other livers breaking contract in plain day.
Sisters can't use the perms argument ever again because niggersanji favoritism by not terminating Uki and Luca.

>> No.70761641

Article 23 is the blackest of black, even for black companies.

>> No.70761647

Will these leaks affect their stocks?

>> No.70761703

>>70761647
Only if the JP bros get a quick TL of the contract.

>> No.70761706

>>70759206
Fly to Japan and save her before Nijisanji's not-the-Yakuza subsidiary traffics her into a soapland

>> No.70761713
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>>70761647

>> No.70761826
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>> No.70761834

>>70761703
Would be nice if the untranslated contract is also leaked.

>> No.70761928

>>70761647
despite the meme, nijisanji still prints the money.

>> No.70761932

>>70759443
Darker than black.

>> No.70761950

>>70761834
No JP liver will ever leak a contract like this, only EN can do it because 70% is unenforceable and litigation is pointless but the same can't be said if you're in the same country, they will get blacklisted and destroyed by litigation, they will have no future if they try.

>> No.70761968

>>70761647
Hopefully, especially since Riku pulled out ANOTHER trick out of his hat to inflate stocks once again

>> No.70761998
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Article 21 breadcrumb :
(...) conclusion of this agreement without prior written consent of Party A.

>> No.70762019
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>>70761928

>> No.70762024

>>70761950
Some people here are too young to understand how office politics works, this isn't twitter where you can start a shit flinging contest, log off and go for a walk.
Starting a fight with a big corpo, even if you're in the right can ruin your entire career forever.

>> No.70762038

>>70760517
Please validate or destroy my thought here I will not be able to sleep if that's the case

>> No.70762058

>>70761932
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dota2_gamepedia/images/1/13/Vo_lich_lich_rare_03.mp3

>> No.70762122

>>70758641
Sorta feel bad for the literalwhos that get hired for a new wave who probably thought they made it but end up paying for their stream setup out of pocket and end up with less than 200 views and making pennies after the youtube and niji tax

>> No.70762163

>>70761928
They print money because of the meme. Imagine being a japanese vtuber, nijisanji fires you and takes your house, your pc, your microphone, your clothes, your dog, your pee bottles, everything. Then, you can't say anything or you are blacklisted and sent to jail. Maximum bank, baybeee!

>> No.70762166

>>70753869
actual yikes moment
that has to be one of the biggest yabs of this month, will be hard to top

>> No.70762181

>>70761998
I must know what it issss

>> No.70762223

>>70757735
>tfw I have no annonies on 4chinchin

>> No.70762239

>>70754411
>They'll just send it over to you by mail. If you come to work next day, it means you agreed to it.
And if they send it while you are at work it means you agreed to it

>> No.70762244

>>70758667
Hoooooooly, He is the harbinger of termination and deletion of foreign branches. Foreigner-san!!!! You have been dishonorable and you are big betrayer!!!! After I am done, you are habu new asshoruuuu!!!

>> No.70762268

>>70758041
Scarle's red bulls

>> No.70762294

>>70760518
Pippa was just joking and having fun. Other people ran with it and she got a lot of shit for it.

>> No.70762324

>>70759206
w...would...

>> No.70762364

>>70759206
I would give socks to her. Just socks.

>> No.70762382
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>>70761647
short seller paradise if it doesn't rise to at least 3500 by the end of the week

>> No.70762458

>>70760686
Saudi Arabia at least deport their homeless foreigner.

>> No.70762461

>>70759969
Dishonoraburuuuuuuuuu

>> No.70762487

>>70762382
It's not even to zero negative right now and this was day one. I don't have much hope for it, but it may prove me wrong.

>> No.70762490

>>70762382
Can we get much lower?

>> No.70762531

>>70762458
But only if they aren't somewhat sexually attractive women. If so, they keep their passports, and keep them locked in a room.

>> No.70762545

>>70762458
Uhh...what? No they don't. You should really get yourself informed. They literally take your passport so you can't leave.

>> No.70762614

>>70762490
It will likely raise a bit and then crash and burn all of a sudden when someone bails. Due to the loan margin, once it starts to drop, if you don't sell in time it's gonna turn into debt, so whoever is in has the finger on that sell button waiting for it to happen.

>> No.70762638

>>70761928
Anon, it's like buying stocks of companies back in the day that did slave trade. Of course, the company is printing money, it costs them nothing to procure the said slaves. As long as the company is showing it earns money, the investors could care less about what goes on behind the scenes.

>> No.70762773

This is fine.jpeg

>> No.70762791

>>70762638
It's not that simple. The company is profitable until it can increase income. JP is saturated and this entire shitstorm burned all bridges with EN. They already killed ID, KN and CH.
The investors don't want to stay during a damage control quarter, especially if loan margin makes risky to own shares if it crashes.

>> No.70762801

>>70762545
>They literally take your passport so you can't leave.
You don't need passport to leave. God gave you legs to use them, walking is literally free. Fucking get off the couch you fat fuck and walk back to where you came from, no fucking passport needed. But I guess yuor entitled ass just needs 5 star flight to get anywhere. Fucking zoomers lazy asses, can't imagine themselves walking, failed generation of weak men and women

>> No.70762825

>>70762382
please explain the notice like Im 5, what does the stockchange mean?

>> No.70762827

>>70755006
Apparently you need to become a male vtuber anon

>> No.70762844

>>70762801
>Walk out of Saudi Arabia.
Uhh...you DO know where Saudi Arabia is right? Are you legitimately that fucking retarded?

>> No.70762892

>>70760044
Boobs

>> No.70762935

>>70762844
Unless Saudi Arabia is on the fucking moon you have no excuse for not walking. Bet that breaks your imaginary world where everyone bends to your needs.

>> No.70762961

>>70754751
It is ridiculous that sisters keep trying to play this nothingburger angle. That contract is 95% unenforceable nonsense. The clause that tries to limit their own liabilities is enough to make the whole thing not worth the paper it is written on. If kurosanji wasn't already the laughing stock of the industry, this would show that they're as incompetent as they are evil.

>> No.70763027

>>70762935
desert you dumbfuck, desert

>> No.70763072

>>70762801
>walk in a desert more than 100km each way where it can get to 40c at summer on a good day
tell me you never walked in a desert for a day without telling me

>> No.70763083

>>70762638
That's the craziest thing niggersanji does jack shit, invest nothing, owns everything produced by the livers after leaving, can penalize you for whatever they pull of their asses, they will not help you with copyright claims, nor bullying, not obligated to hire managers to help you and reaps all the benefits.

>> No.70763105

>>70758667
Chances of this guy fucking Elira while riku fucks him?

>> No.70763137

>>70762801
The issue isn't going out of SA, it's entering any neighboring countries. You might be able to scuttle through Western Iraq into the Syrian regions with ISIS remnants though, good luck using your God given legs to outrun a Hilux.

>> No.70763219

>>70759206
Pingu, I can save you...

>> No.70763228

>>70762801
Okay, jews

>> No.70763230
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>>70763027
>Picrel
Nice desert, I guess every country in africa is desert to you, dumb zoomer
>>70763072
>Walking in the sun is just too harsh for my delicate skin, it's literally impossible
The most entitled generation in history

>> No.70763246

>>70763083
>not obligated to hire managers to help you
Worse, they actively disbar you from hiring people yourself for this purpose.

>> No.70763273

>>70762961
The only value was damaging kurosanji rep, confirming again Vox "You can leave at anytime" is a retard, and that this contract confirms the clauses don't apply to the favorites of the black company.

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>>70763230

>> No.70763351

>>70763230
nigger Im not a zoomer

>> No.70763377

>>70763083
This explains Anycolor's good performance in their financial reports

>> No.70763472

>>70763230
NTA, but that is a shit take, you could take stylized pictures of Pyongyang and make it look appealing too. That does not mean it is not a shitty place to live. As for walking out of Saudi Arabia on foot (from Mecca?), he has a point. That is not just ''sun too hard for my delicate skin'', even the locals stay well covered up from the sun and have pit stop routes to not run out of supplies. But then again, you went for ''zoomer'' and ''entitled'', so that tells us something about the level you operate at.

>> No.70763488

>>70755708
So that's how Selen lost 200k

>> No.70763490
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>>70759206
Yab

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>>70762825
unironically you can use chatgpt lol

>> No.70763551

>>70763488
I assume Selen lost the majority of that 200k on her birthday 3D concert thing.

>> No.70763627

>>70763230
Saudi Arabia is not in Africa you retard

>> No.70763691

I want to see the next NDF wave trying to argue this is a good contract, or it means nothing because its a template.
Sisters nobody gives a fuck, Niggersanji is radioactive right now, nobody wants to be associated with this black hole of PR, nobody will join and no sponsor will risk associating with them.
>LM:Defamation in japan is no joke
No JP talent will ever fight a black corpo on their home turf, they'll lose 100% of the time.

>> No.70763797

>>70763490
Imagine drinking 酒 out of her thighs. Is this what Elira meant by pussy popping

>> No.70763804

>>70763691
>>70757524

>> No.70763846

>>70763627
Tell that to that dumbfuck complaining about walking through the desert. It's not even in Africa yet he keeps yelling about his imaginary desert, like he is about to crawl through sahara with broken legs. Makes his entitlement show itself even more

>> No.70763891

>>70757524
>Pakistan
Holy shit

>> No.70763969

>>70763846
There is a desert in Saudi Arabia, I honestly can't tell if you're baiting or stupid

>> No.70764095

You lot sure are eating up this desert bait

>> No.70764121

>>70764095
i love sand

>> No.70764177

>>70764121
I hate sand. It's coarse, rough and irritating

>> No.70764239

>>70763969
Yeah and there is a desert in my backyard. You know what it's called? SANDPIT! It's unbelievable just how pathetic you zoomers are. Turns out my nephew is fitter than you all, he plays in it all day, while you won't even consider the possibility of getting off the couch and going out.

>> No.70764553

>>70763969
the guy is just doing the "haha Im pretending to be slightly more retarded than I am because thats really funny" routine
definitely a teenager

>> No.70764642

>>70756702
Desperate 2views indies, Anycolor's predatory practices rely on indies' desperation and empty promises of blowing up
>I will not say how much, but you'll make more money with us rather than being indie
Now that their brand is more radioactive than fucking Polonium, their business model is crumbling.

>> No.70764686

>>70760041
Yes.
>t. tried working once, didnt like it

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