/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>call talents "vtuber" in the contract, zero "liver" mention
>force everyone to call themselves "liver"
Why did they do it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
they're not like the other corpos teehee

[Anonymous No.]

Because holoLIVE lives rent free in their heads and they want to own the word themselves I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
we're so different >.<

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Gotta have talent to be called a talent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743041
If you're a nobody, its not bad if you get accepted and then stay for about a year.

I don't like niji as much as the next anon, but people here forget the reason someone like pomu, sayu or doki got big was because they started in that black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
they want to be organs

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
Niji has declined so much that even that may no longer be true. Kunai is unironically worse off than before she became a liver.
Future organs would have to be 1/2views prior for the suffering to be worth it now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
>pomu, sayu
>big
And Doki is only big now because of drama. She was only a fraction of her current self as Selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
Minimum contract length is 2 years, auto renewing if you don't give them 3 months notice not to

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
>stay for about a year
2 is the lowest, and you still have to wait for the graduation queue that the leaker said some had to wait for over an year

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743041
your point is right but the image is full of retards.
oh you can't compete with one of the biggest names like gura, correctly identified, will you tell them that your audience is different because ___ and point out that you can instead do ____ ?
nope, just gonna cry about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
just like how Riot push their propaganda by calling the genre of their game Moba. back then we dont call it Moba then Riot going all out on marketing calling the game Moba

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743615
Even saying that will probably fail you though. It's not a trick question designed to get you to think outside of the box, they literally want to hear how you plan on being the Gura killer. That's why the current nijiEN is a shitshow of narcissists with hyper inflated egos. They're literally selecting for this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743514
when I say big, I meant they bigger compared to what their status is before.

so someone like pomu or sayu geting barely 2-3views before, and now more. Then they're big/successful thanks to joining that company.

Same with doki, she was a 2view before. So even without the drama, she would still get decent numbers.

Like I said, niji is a good stepping stone to last for basically a yr. Then get off to become an indie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743613
This is worse than my mobile provider

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743713
that's why you tell them what you're going to do instead, dumbass. you think every member of the iluna, xsoleil and the two trio waves each laid out a plan to take down gura?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743803
But Kunai and some others are during worse now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
you can't get out, all it takes is just the manager sending the renewal contract 20 seconds before your stream begins.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743821
>instead of competing with gura, i will instead do-
>bzzzzt, NEXT
Again, they want people who sniff their own farts and think they're the best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743866
it's a basically a gamble now but back then it was good

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743803
>Like I said, niji is a good stepping stone to last for basically a yr. Then get off to become an indie.
>>70743613
You can't just "get off" after a year without being termination

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743956
literally not possible for this take to be true. again, if it were then nobody after iluna would be in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Cause they can control your real life activates too duh. So it extends pass your activities as say Selen and into the actual person it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70744119
What's your rationale for that? They just want to hear plans and hire people with ambition/confidence (albeit an absurd amount). I didn't say they're only hiring giga stars who show material evidence of potentially beating Gura. You just look at the current state of cliquesanji to know that the hiring managers had selected for this type of narcissistic asshole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Insecurity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743615
I don't think niji is THAT smart with their questions

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
>>70743613
>>70743803
>Like I said, niji is a good stepping stone to last for basically a yr. Then get off to become an indie.

Nobody's left NijiEN without some huge controversy attached. This narrative is a smokescreen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70744638
meh, that's still better than streaming to nobody and doing this shit only as a hobby.

They can literally go and stream now, and won't need to work.

I see the benefits and futureproofing, meanwhile you can only see the values.
Which is not wrong to believe in, but those things don't bring food and rent money on the table anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70744638
What controversy did Nina/Matara and Pomu have?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745113
Your line was that they can treat it as a stepping stone, like it's some agreeable arrangement, when in fact everyone who's left was forced out by bullshit. You're basically a liar, and you're demanding that they be grateful for this opportunity no matter said bullshit. This is some backhanded corpo bootlicking.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745367
>Pomu
>dream being crushed
>management

>Nina
>management
You must have missed the entire debut of Matara Kan and her 10 streams following that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
That was the case like 4 or 3 years ago, vtubing now has grown so much that most people joining it would be solid 3-view that would earn less than they already do with way more work, restrictions and less opportunities

[Anonymous No.]

Anyone got a tldr of the leaked contract? I would not be able to stand 4 hours of watching the guy

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745651
tl;dr is that signing the contract is akin to indentured servitude.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745651
I think he posted an abridged version of the first stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743514
>made over 400K USD in 2 years just from superchats and memberships
>implying that's bad
Dude, an anon wrote down net and gross revenue by extrapolation using publicly available sources, and Selen unironically made 1.1 million USD in 2023, of which she took home approx 220k USD.

Talents like Selen were effectively millionaires, but the corporation gnawed away at their profits. You retards keep obsessing about ccv, but no one cares about it outside fan base dick measuring contests. Investors and companies care about marketability, conversion rates, and impression rates. They want the talent to be able to SELL merch, festival tickets, sponsored products, collaborations, and promotional events.


That's why it's mind-boggling and baffling that Elira has gotten so many merch and promo opportunities. She doesn't sell. It makes no sense from a business perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745651
>We can change the contract whenever we want and if you stream you automatically accept it. Also you can't stop streaming because you're breaking another rule
>Basically says they are under no obligation to give you money
>We are under no obligation to give you any kind of management
>We can make you do press releases whenever we want (the lawyer thinks this proves the black box streams was forced on the livers)
>If you get bullied you can get fucked, it isn't our job to protect you lmao
>Remember, you are here forever (You basically can't leave if we don't want you to)
>Can fire you immediately for basically no reason
>Some strange stuff about how the Vtuber has to share "certain information"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746060
So once again, the gurrat holds true?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743613
Kyo actually left at least a month, likely two or three, before his two-year contract was up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746106
It's highly plausible, especially if you take into account the leaker posts.

What I want to know is, how the FUCK did the company allow this? They should have ample data. It makes no sense for a finance and marketing department to keep allowing a middling talent to devour all the merch and promo spots, when there's data that supports it does not convert to expected revenue.


The only way I can rationalize it is if I presuppose mismanagement, miscommunication, and foul-play on the part of EN management or talents (liaison theory).

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743613
This is for unilateral termination by the vtuber. This is, according to the contract, basically the only way for the vtuber to end the contract without either getting approval from Anycolor or potentially getting hit with monetary penalties. It would likely result in a termination notice or a simple graduation without fanfare. The graduation queue is with mutual agreement to end the contract, which can happen earlier than the contract length. Kyo did not do 2 full years before he left.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746310
You don't begin streaming immediately upon signing the contract, dude. You get training for several months.

Finana's PL mentioned her "acceptance" into Nijisanji like 6 months before the gen debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Anyone translated this into jp yet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746574
Apparently it's making the rounds in JP Yahoo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746091
Don't forget they can fine you for "infractions"
I sure hope that didn't become a sneaky way to skim some organs income off the top tax free then dump them with the full income tax after. No way someone in the financial division would be that stupid, like forgetting to hand an organ or 2 their paperwork for tax season because they didnt ask the right person in "management" first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746265
>>70746106
The gurrat is only partially true. Livers don't have as much power as you thought. Merch sales probably were done favored, but not decided by livers themselves but by the higher up. If Elira were management, if you have ever watched their collab stream between Selen and Elira, any all of this gurrat will crumble. But again, nobody would love to work in a company like this, not after knowing what this contract is all about. All the livers had chain on their neck and could only do things as told so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746091
>If you get bullied you can get fucked, it isn't our job to protect you lmao
Remember when they said they joined hands with Cover to fight harassment? kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
I can't believe any of you idiots actually believe this is real, just because random internet faggot says so.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746635
>Right at the same time Anycolor's stock became highly volatile
>It makes sisters like >>70746875 cry and seethe
You love to see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746875
So you only care about the company, not your oshis? Do you even have an oshi? If not then why are you here for? This contract explains pretry much everything that happened all this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Has someone made this known to the nips? They need to know their company jas securiry problems

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746982
who's crying and seething? I don't care one way or the other. But some random douche shows random papers of unknown origin for view farming and we all just believe them? Why? It could say anything they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747227
>unknown origin
Kek. I can't believe there're people rather protecting the company to death

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743041
the answer to this is so simple. just say you plan on streaming consistently LMAO
gura please stream consistently i miss you

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746635
https://finance.yahoo.co.jp/cm/message/1835700/e0f1c8592aa7c340a07c2f60d41004ca/108/350

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747227
Gotta protect the billion dollar company am I right sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747581
Of course! Only 2 more weeks of 24/7 defense means they might have their Vox cock vore gore scat ASMR stream!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746091
Can someone give a proper TL;DR instead of a seething retard please

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747354
Nijisisters oshi has always was the company. It been like that since /jp/ day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745367
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUmk69aK5yU&t=959s

She said her fans are getting harassed, though she only mentioned it as Matara. Retarded sisters hate her entire being back then and it's posted on her doxxsites page because she keeps collabing with homo/Luxiem

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747516
>Not avaiable in Europe
Can you post some stuff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746091
>>70747674

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747810

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Cults give "unique" names to their followers as a basic component in the brainwashing tactics - it creates a sense of uniqueness, of belong, of "being other" than the accepted norm.
"Liver" has also been used before, by offshoots of Aum Shinrikyo...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746265
>What I want to know is, how the FUCK did the company allow this? They should have ample data. It makes no sense for a finance and marketing department to keep allowing a middling talent to devour all the merch and promo spots, when there's data that supports it does not convert to expected revenue.

Well... do they even have a real finance and marketing department, or is it some high school/college intern they have doing everything? Do they have anyone analyzing stats?

Frankly, given the company's behavior, I think there's a good chance the people running this company are Riku, his cronies, and a small number of horribly overworked intern types who have no clue what the hell they're doing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743041
why are newfags like this?
nijisanji has been using the term for as long as they've started their shit, even hololive and some other JP vtubers used "liver" at some point and realized it's a shit term
Not gonna let nijisanji's deserved downfall distract me from the swarm of newfags pouring in daily

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
>call your talents liver
>they try to kill themselves

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746574
There's an article translating the Reddit summary to Japanese https://p2y.jp/anycolor-nijisanji-en-new-talent-contract-suspected-leak/
But there's a disclaimer that it's not trustworthy so to take everything with a grain of salt, I doubt Nips would really believe it without any other context

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745367
Nina was absolutely harassed by the nijisisters.
She was shunned by her genmates, so she started collabing with the males. The fujoshis saw it as an affront, accusing her of leeching from the boyz. Since she was a fleshstreamer, they proceeded to post her dox ad nauseam on social media. They harassed her fans on twitter, the subreddit, and even youtube, to the point hundreds of Nina's fans reached out to her stating that they were afraid to openly support her, and that they are sorry.

Pomu was also harassed. Nijisisters kept posting her nudes and /cgl/ history /here/ and in other websites. When she debuted they were accusing her of leeching from hanamori, even though she'd collabed maybe 6-7 times with them, and they were harassing her for bringing Idol culture mentality into nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70747581
>>70747354
what are you even talking about? I could type up random bullshit and post it as "Cover Contract for Hololive Employees" whats to stop me? I'm not saying this isn't legit, but there is no proof whatsoever, just some randos word.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748893
Aee you sure the nijisisters weren't antis. Wtf are they trying to kill these livers over the company like some ritual or some shit? Also Pomu was a Hanamori so why wouldn't she allow to hang out with her friends?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748438
>Call your talents holomem
>They rape each other

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748994
>randos word
Are you clinically insane? I bet you have never bothered to look into the contract papers. What are you in here trying to explain for, retards? Gtfo here and lick riku ass because he's responsible for all of this

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748893
>She was shunned by her genmates
Didn't they have their own discord that they didn't invite Nina to

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749021
Yes, nyfco has always been the base of operations, they were definitely sisters. They despise the female livers, they only care about the males. Even in their latest gayop about spreading positivity, no one could even list any good things about the female talents, while they wrote entire paragraphs about their homosexual oshis.

No, Pomu was not actually in hanamori, she was a friend that collabed and was related to the group, but was never officially part of the indie group.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743617
Tbf, they used that term because they got a lawsuit by calling it a Dota alike, then spun it as doing it to stand out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743821
In any case niji was jinxing all of their new talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746060
After youtube and anycolor cuts, that's not really something I'd describe as "big".

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749021
>Also Pomu was a Hanamori
She wasn't. Hanamori constantly hung out with each other on Twitch (constant collabs with each other). Pomu did her own thing on Youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749124
Yes, they unironically made a separate group and ghosted Nina. They also didn't initiate any collabs with her, even when she was obviously available. She complained about it (more like expressed sadness about it) live on air.


Reminds me of the fact that Selen was never invited to the second (unofficial) server.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748343
Jap licking company boots again, nothing new

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749173
>>70749320
And sisters want us to believe that these exclusionary bullies are somehow have no blame for the blackscreen video. The people say different. Poll’s proof.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749498
This poll is bad. Just because you think management told them to do the stream doesn't mean the clique doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749498
It's possible for both things to be true - Elira could be the bullying clique leader who made life hell for Selen, but also that management ordered them to do the black screen video against their wishes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749498
What a stupid poll.
>clique makes video voluntarily
>clique makes video involuntarily
It says that if you believe management forced them, then you must also believe the clique is fake. Which is absolute fucking retardation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749498
>>70749588
>>70749826
Or simply there were no bullying between livers in the first place. It's a matter between management and Selen. You never thought that leaker could be the person ordered by management to leave gurrat on /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749588
You’re greedy. You want to have your cake and eat it too. Can’t be both ways.
Riku was scheduled to do a stream on the same day. There is no way jap management trusted some gajins to deliver a message and before Riku instead of after or on another day or not at all.
Elira and co. convinced JP that EN would help them and then EN rushed to push out a message ahead of Riku, to get the drop on him. It might be an action out of arrogance, or survival. If JP wanted them, they would force the vtubers to use their models but Elira, Vox, and Ike used a blackscreen instead. They were too ashamed to show “face” something JP management would have insisted. Only the clique itself would care about their models. Vox asking his fans to “keep fighting the good fight” and escalate the situation, will you make the excuse that JP forced him to say that too? No. This is Vox’s nature and Ike’s nature, and Elira’s nature. Niji JP didn’t know what they would do in the blackscreen. The blackscreen trio are responsible. Black attracts black.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70750115
>sister blows xer cover and outright admits to be astroturfing

GRIM

[Anonymous No.]

>>70750115
I doubt it, because leaks from other ex-Livers suggest there was at least a problem with cliques, making the bullying accusations a lot more plausible.

Also, NijiKR disintegrated for basically the same reasons EN is now falling apart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70750115
>livers

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749588
>>70749826
>>70750093
Nice try apologists. First you remove blame from the Blackscreen Trio and then
>>70750115
There was never any bullying at nijisanji where vox recently told fans to keep fighting the good fight and escalate kpop-harassment tactics against doki and the vtuber community.
Some people will fall for this deceitful behavior, the people who matter will not.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70750446
I say the clique exists and they were forced by management.
What do i answer on that retarded poll of yours? 36+1 People voting sure is a good measure of truth and untruth no?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
I don't know. A year in niji will get you 100-200 viewers if you're lucky plus a lifetime of schizos and harassment from the company itself. May be worth it if you're actually starting from 0, no audience whatsoever, not even a mid 2view, but they don't recruit that low and I doubt they'll start even after the drama.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70750215
>>70750233
>>70750314
>>70750363
>>70750446
My reality crumbles before me, light fades away in the eyes trying to hold any glimpse of hope left. I have been following Nova nd Mint for so long I don't remember anymore. If anything of this is proved to be true, then who am I hoping for all this time anyways? I'm in despair. I can't even get angry. I just still hope it won't be the worst and she wasn't what the gurrat painted her as. I don't know anymore. Following this thing for nearly a month, extremely tired looking for an answer. I'm the only famelira, the only one, the last one. I'm not nijisister, I don't have anything of the company to defend. I'm just waiting. I don't know anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

I know I'm in denial when I was trying to justify Elira and her clique. All the evidence was there, I just couldn't bring myself to accept it.maybe there's something we haven't figured out? Right? I wish Doki could answer me so I can be free for one last time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743605
>>70743613
Literally scummier than a rental agreements. Holo is 6 months or 1 year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70751531
>6 months
6 is too short, I'm thinking the norm is 1 year

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743613
And retarded Vox said they can leave anytime

[Anonymous No.]

>>70751381
Maybe Elira should come forward and explain? Without the crocodile tears this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70751802
Holostars was shorter I thought.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70751963
Technically you could, just need to pay back 50-100% of everything you earned

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
Anon I could be the most nobody of the nobodies but signing such a bad contract should just get you shot by law enforcement. It is REALLY fucking bad. On this note: kids read your fucking contracts before signing them, if you are unsure of what they say read them with a lawyer, that's their job to begin with, you are going to have a really bad time if you don't. Otherwise just be a nepotism hire like I was at my current job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70752338
Are they? Vesper debut on 2022/07/23 and graduate on 2023/08/31. Any homo graduate sooner than that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749227
That never happened, it was a pure marketing move because at the time the genre was either called Dota-like or ASSFAGGOTS depending on whom you asked. The only ones who ever got sued over DotA was S2 and their HoN purely because Icefrog was a lying bastard.

[Anonymous No.]

Is this why Luca's mod is leaking shit again

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748416
This.
Nijisanji was using the term "liver" before hololive had talents outside Sora who was a literal who at the time in comparison to Mito

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749021
Sisters are antis of females by default. how DARE they interact with their male streamers etc

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748416
>>70754166
Why they don't use it in the contract then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70754392
Do you write programmer or code monkey in a contract involving coders?
Vtuber is the legal term.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70754392
They don't have to mention that in a work contract
Just like how goofy nicknames my employer insists we call ourselves are not stated in my contract either

[Anonymous No.]

>>70751381
It's okay anon, you can still nut to Elira, nobody denies her model is hot. You don't need to aide with her for that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70752829
nevermind. i didn't realize it was exactly 1 year for him and Magni.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70745651
TLDR nothing interesting, nothing manipulative or le black fine print clause, some /#/ narratives got btfo like for example the company gives them 200k yen for debut

[Anonymous No.]

>>70748893
I was not paying attention at the time and missed these nude leaks

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
>someone like pomu, sayu or doki got big was because they started in that black company.
Anon, Nijisanji had very few en vtuber fans when Lazusydia debuted. The collab ban with the only other large EN speaking corpo didn't help. Outside of events organized by the main branch, the corpo side of things had no official programming until LAST FALL, by Anycolor's own admission, only debuts and graduations.
The first few waves built NijiEN and it's reputation, not the other way around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70757937
Except they were completely irrelevant until China fell into their lap.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
>>70758491
Retarded newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70753004
>ASSFAGGOTS
Now there's a filter I haven't heard in a long time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743247
Kurenai got fucked over since Niji legal did not advise her about using weapons in her name will fuck up the algorithm. For more than 6 months she had half her PL numbers since TTT was not promoted. She's in the situation where a job outside vtubing keeps her alive. Nijisanji is doing shit just taking all her earnings. At any moment they can bill her on breaking clauses like not streaming or participating in collabs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70766328
By definition she is in an indentured slave contract fir a minimum of 2 years with no reprieve till they say she can leave. You wonder why the rrats called you out for being a Black Company, now everyone knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743041
Weird considering Gura is not a VTuber according to their contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746232
You sure? The contract is signed way earlier than debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743866
I know Victoria at least has more viewers now compared to her pl, but Kunai really got fucking scammed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70768544
that's how defined terms work. the defined term "VTuber" has the meaning given in Article 1 within the scope of the contract. the purpose of defined terms is to make the contract easier to read and avoid repeating long, specific phrases over and over. in short, it doesn't mean that anycolor doesn't generally consider her a vtuber. it means that when you read this contract and you see the defined term "VTuber", that does not refer to vtubers generally, but that within the contract that defined term has the meaning given in Article 1.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70769558
Victoria could have been part of duellogs new vtuber agency alongside Nova and get the sweet sweet tcgbucks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70751381
There are clauses that point to Niji being able to basically skinwalk their livers and dictate everything they say. If the organ resists, they suddenly owe company money. This basically gives every current Niji EN vtuber an out in the eyes of the public.
Or, well, as good of an out as a "I was merely following orders" defense would go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70771803
Didn't do that well for anon's grandpa

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
To emphasize which organ they'll take first after they terminate you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70749227
>this horseshit
There was a lawsuit. It was them teaming up with Blizzard trying to fuck over Valve, claiming that they shouldn't be allowed to call their game "Dota 2", because Dota belongs to the community.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70742968
Why does this trigger you so? Isn't there some actually significant thing to spaz about? Given the company's sheer incompetence, surely...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70744255
NTA but you genuinely have no fucking grey matter, everyone fucking knows you cannot beat Gura, they ask you that question because they want to see people wanting growth and improvement, a person with a functional brain understands that laying out your strong points is better than fucking lying out of your ass because you were a fucking NOBODY you have no fucking position to say "Oh yea I could totally beat gura in subs and views" NO YOU CAN'T RETARD LMAO you're a bumass that nobody watches that's why you went to niji in the first place faggot, the fucking clique you mention was formed waay after niji became too handsoff, again you have no grey matter monkey kys.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70743041
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70746091
>>If you get bullied you can get fucked, it isn't our job to protect you lmao
I really don't get this shit, it's like they want to pit their vtubers against each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70750093
>>70749498
Not only that but any sane human being would refuse making that black stream, backlash was insane.
both options are stupid.

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>>70750215
>Kotoka badmouthing Zaion while looking like an actual gyaru anime villain was a real bad look, how could management have possibly thought that was a good idea?
>Let's show those stuffy suits how it's done! Let's stream ourselves defending the black company over nothing but a black void. That'll win us favour in the court of public opinion!
>Brilliant idea as always, Elira!
>Thanks, Vox. I can't wait to see Dookie's stupid face when she is reduced to tears and breaks NDA trying to fight back! That'll make her think twice before streaming that stupid Neopets game she wanted perms so badly for.

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>>70742968
kek

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>>70777058
Evil corporate Elira would be the greatest thing that happens to the business.

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>>70777237
That's not Evil that's dumb. If you want to go with that rrat go with the one she did the whole nuke on purpose to sink the yacht.

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>>70776661
Having the employees at each other's throat all the time is a pretty common tactic in black companies, it prevents any solidarity/unionization

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>>70778024
That's devilish. I never even thought about that. It's reminiscent of US politics, or politics in general. Keep the left (lower class) fighting the right (also lower class) while we (upper class) rob them. It's kinda genius to port these tactics to a corpo, or maybe I was just naive about black corpos... I figured it would just be some sperg managers with anger problems. But this shit is kinda cunning...

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>>70743264
Wamy...