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>It's over for Nijisanji!
>The leaked contract will be the final nail for their coffin!
Aaand it turns out the contract was a nothingburger.

>> No.70735725

>>70735692
Has anyone stitched together the entire contract yet?

>> No.70735773
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70735773

>>70735692
Japan doesn't know about it yet, retard. Give it a week. Hell, maybe even two!

>> No.70735824

>>70735692
The stream ended 4 hours ago sis.

>> No.70735899

>>70735692
You have brain damage

>> No.70735903

>>70735824
4 hours? It hasn't even been an hour yet. It streamed 4 hours ago for like 3-4 hours.

>> No.70735907

>>70735773
>>70735824
TWO MORE WEEKS!
You guys keep saying it for months lmao

>> No.70735921

I want to blast a fat sticky load all over Vox's feet and then make him hold toes with Ike

>> No.70735939

>>70735907
After that contract you shouldn't want 2 more weeks. You should want t hem out YESTERDAY before they fucking kill themselves too.

Unless you're just lying about wanting your oshi to be happy and all you care about is schlicking to their PNGs.

>> No.70735944

uhhhh coversisters?

>> No.70735952

>>70735907
wait 14 days

>> No.70735995

>>70735692
The contract is a nothingburger in the sense that it does nothing because it's nigh unenforceable.

>> No.70735999

>>70735692
I think you should buy right now. Take out a loan on your house and put it all on Anycolor. Look how much it's rising! It's bouncing back! BUY BUY BUY

>> No.70736054

>>70735692
>3K support broke
Unironically grim.

>> No.70736138

>ignoring the BREAK THE GLASS IR from earlier

>> No.70736171

>>70736138
Don't tell them. Let them buy and get left with the bag.

>> No.70736223

>>70736138
These are all baits. The sis are in denial that this is natural speculation. It’s not gonna survive 3/15 if anything. Hell, it could not survive tomorrow if people decide it’s not gonna rise more.

>> No.70736306

>>70735907
and it works with pomu lol

>> No.70736354
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70736354

>>70735692
You're totally right, OP! Buy! Buy! Buy as much stock as you can! Niji's finally coming back! Show those Dookitards who's boss!

>> No.70736371

>>70735692
>anycolor stocks have been reduced to crypto-tier casino gambling
>NIJI WINS

>> No.70736390

>>70735692
>Aaand it turns out the contract was a nothingburger.
It wasn't a nothinburger, it exposed holobrowns in their lies:
>no 2%
>actually 50% streaming share
>company covers debut expenses
>livers can get returns on expenses like travel
No doubt, holonigs will try to grasp for straws from now on spinning around and misinterperting parts of contract which are just a normal corpo practice in every company.
I won't blame them, though. I understand that they are seething uncontrollably right now because it turned out that Anycolor is a good company while Cover is the black one with their 360$ thrown to their talents like to starving dogs and where talents are unable to fund their projects on their own and have to take a loan from a corpo and become literal corpo slaves Company Store style.

>> No.70736404

>>70735692
Best time to borrow stocks :)

>> No.70736414

>>70735773
need someone clip & TL that to nihongo asap

>> No.70736429

I don't think so. It's like they're pulling out all the stops trying to turn the stock price around.
I suspect the reason they opened margin trading is so Sony would prop up their stock.

>> No.70736457

We just disproved the efficient market hypothesis

>> No.70736474

>>70735692
...Isn't this actually a bad thing?

>> No.70736508
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70736508

>>70736474
Shhhh, let them find out the hard way.

>> No.70736515

>>70736429
Sony hasn’t brought shit, their shareholding is still at 5%. Riku dropped from 48 to 42, he’s setting the right altitude for the jump.

>> No.70736528

How come Nijisisters always fight back with only financial points? It's always "our stock price is still up" or "our financial reports were great"

>> No.70736532

>>70735692
of course anon. its a nothingburger today.
But the coming short selling circus will be glorious.
If anything you should be afraid since the stock is now extra risky and volatile, the fact it risen back to 3220 means the big boys, institutions like hedge funds have placed their bets and shares are being moved rapidly today. Unlike gamestop, Anycolor is grossly overvalued and you can't squeeze out it.
Anycolor gambled on short term outlook, it won't be pretty once earnings report hit this month. Enjoy the fireworks because you're gonna need it.

>> No.70736583

>>70736474
shhhhhhhhh, i love seeing it come crashing down

>> No.70736632
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70736632

Niji has pumped their stock so full of financial steroids and still hasn't recovered to even 1/2 the levels of pre - Selen firing. Niji is one major seller away from completely fucking the price over. And you're proud of this? LOL

>> No.70736637

>>70736528
Because all other metrics can be easily botted, just like holo does all the time. So it's not worth considering anything else except for financials.

>> No.70736641

>>70736528
At this point, I fully believe the sisters are into humiliation and continue to post here because they love when strong, chad anons belittle them.

>> No.70736665

>>70736632
Still worth more than Cover

>> No.70736673

>>70736390
>Anycolor is a good company
Sis have we read the same contract or you got a redacted one on the doxxsite?
The contract is literal indentured servitude, and everything the livers gain is subject to being seized at the minimal infeaction.
Even your “cover expenses” is not mandatory and set at 2000$, and the debut cost at 1800$.
Not to mention it literally says the livers can get sockpuppet and havd to say what the company does, and thet definitely cannot “leave anytime”. 6 months notice mimimum.

>> No.70736675

To be clear, what has happened today is that Anycolor has allowed their stocks to be used as a loan margin trading issue. This means that anyone with Anycolor stock can use it as collateral for a loan.
What happens is basically like this:
You tell your broker you want to buy 10K of a stock, but you only have 5K in funds, but you have, say 10k worth in Anycolor stock (at current market rate).
You can put up this stock as collateral for a loan. That is, you tell your broker, "if I don't pay back the loan, you can take all my Anycolor shares." Your broker will not loan you the full value of the shares, they will loan you a percentage of it based on the loan-to-value ratio, say, 50%. So if you have 10K worth then you can loan 5K.
Now you have 10K to buy any stock you want, while you also still technically "own" the stock.
If nothing happens, then great, you got free money to invest where before you had useless stock. You can see how this increases the inherent 'value' of Anycolor stock.
Now the danger is if the stock plunges. If it plunges, that is when your broker will put in a margin call, and get you to top up the difference. If you can't do that - if you are overleveraged - then you're fucked.

>> No.70736695

>>70735692
>NDF are this retarded

>> No.70736701

>>70736528
Because their oshi was always the company. They couldn't care less about people inside it

>> No.70736735

>>70735692
Now it's only a matter of time before it bounces up again.

>> No.70736739

>>70736390
You wouldn't be Nijisisters if you were smart.

>> No.70736763 [DELETED] 

>No doubt, holonigs will try to grasp for straws from now on spinning around and misinterperting parts of contract which are just a normal corpo practice in every company.
>10 minutes later
>>70736673
Like a perfect clockwork, lmao

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70736825

>>70735692
>5D
>leak was merely hours ago
>the leak was through a channel unknown to most Japanese
>didn't even read the contents of the contract
>"NIJIVICTORY!"

There's being mentally retarded, and then there's being nijikeks.

>> No.70736856

>>70736390
>which are just a normal corpo practice in every company.
My sides.

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70736864

>>70736763
>>70736390
>>70735692

>> No.70736906

>>70736390
The 2% was always known to be their merch cut which is where pretty much all money is you retard

>> No.70736924

>>70736665
Difference is Cover has not had a stock buyback or margin lending issue. Both of which are not signs of a healthy company. Cover does not also have a scandal threatening the existence of one of it's branches.
Remember at one point Blockbuster was valued higher than Netflix. Where's Blockbuster now? Share value can be pumped - hence the term pump and dump. Which can also be applied to Elira's anus right now

>> No.70736958

>Nijisanji "fans" confirm once again that they oshi the stocks and dont give a shit about the vtubers
Of course

>> No.70736967

Is this what it came down to? Throwing shit while posting stocks?

>> No.70737006

>>70736665
bigger =/= better
growth good
stagnation bad

>> No.70737023

>>70736967
please understand, nijisisters all oshi riku and his pump and dump content

>> No.70737028

>>70736924
>Cover does not also have a scandal threatening the existence of one of it's branches.
Well, it did once. I miss Yogiri so much...

>> No.70737072

>>70737023
But both "sides" are doing it.

>> No.70737092

>>70737072
Point us to images of covers stocks

>> No.70737114

>>70735692
You should be comparing market cap, not individual stock price. Niji still wins but I'm just letting you know for next time.

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70737119

>>70737072
Both sides indeed.

>> No.70737120

>>70737092
inb4 he links to a post of a nijisister mocking their stocks, confirming he is a retard

>> No.70737128

>>70737072
only nijinigs pull up cover stocks
/#/ don't count as humans. Rest of the board is just happy to talk about CGDCT

>> No.70737135

>>70737092
There was a thread a few days ago with Cover stock or some shit. I don't remember exactly. This board feels like a more deranged /biz/ ever since the Selen termination.

>> No.70737152

>>70737128
What else are the nijisanji fans supposed to talk about? Nobody's streaming.

>> No.70737203

>>70736390
2% was always about the merch cuts but we don't expect you sisters to be able to digest actual informations at this point

>> No.70737221
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70737221

>>70737152
They got someone to watch right now
Oh right not part of the clique so they dont give a shit

>> No.70737236

>>70737152
>Nobody's streaming
And other lies you pull out of your ass!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBKHXA-XTsM

>> No.70737254

>>70735692
Nijisisters, please buy. Put your money where your mouth is. Give Anycolor all the help they need.

>> No.70737265

>>70737221
Doll sex

>> No.70737271

>>70737236
>2 finanas
yep, literally nobody

>> No.70737303

>get proven wrong
>b-b-but the numberssssss!!!
Just take the L

>> No.70737324

>>70737303
Why arent you watching her?

>> No.70737359

>>70737324
I literally am. Cute accent.

>> No.70737373

>>70737359
What happened on stream 22 minutes ago?

>> No.70737403

Who cares about the stock price? It's the talents that matter and Niji mistreats theirs. But sadly they won't collapse or anything.

>> No.70737432

>>70737373
You wont find it in the nijien threads by the way. No reason to look for it. I know you subhumans dont watch her
Why lie?

>> No.70737450

>>70737403
>But sadly they won't collapse or anything.
Wishful thinking
See you in one month when the EN branch is
dissolved

>> No.70737474

i know there's lots of shitposting on this board but i do hope Niji JP stays mostly unaffected.
i like quite a few livers there.

>> No.70737481
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70737481

>>70735692
Buy it all up while it's low, sisters. Anykara to the moon!!!

>> No.70737498

>>70737481
Get /biz/ on this

>> No.70737509

>>70737432
She's literally the OP of the NijiEN general right now? Your move.

>> No.70737519

>>70737509
Why are you lying that YOU are watching her?

>> No.70737532

>>70737509
NTA but that's completely irrelevant to what he said, ESL-kun. He asked for stream content, not a picture.

>> No.70737582
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70737582

What ever you say schizo. Don't forget to take your meds.

>> No.70737584

>>70737236
You have 31 remaining livers and only ONE is streaming right now to a measely 2 finanas? Yeah great family you got there.

>> No.70737587

>>70737450
Wishful thinking? I wish Niji ceased to exist, I'm just less optimistic than you are. See you in a month for the grudgepost, I guess.

>> No.70737614

>>70737532
C'mon. You KNOW they don't watch girls.
Though if she did a blowjob ASMR I might be able to see why they like it so much...

>> No.70737639

>>70737509
NijiEN is literally infested with trannies and faggots

>> No.70737648

>>70737584
Are there any holoEN streaming right now?

>> No.70737669

>>70736864
anon, sisters dont know the concept of bait, thats how they really are.

>> No.70737677

>>70737648
>instant deflection
If I cared about hololive i'd ask in the hololive thread

>> No.70737694

>>70736763
>i know the flaws in my argument
>i will say inb4
>this will invalidate the people pointing out the flaws in my argument
That's some pretty good bait. You deserve the (you).

>> No.70737700

>>70737614
That rentry doc was the funniest shit I've seen in a while. 3/4 of it was "Uh I don't know somebody else fill this out"

>> No.70737715

>>70736665
>younger company
>80% growth YOY versus 24% growth YOY
>no share repurchase campaign
>no Loan Trading issuance

>> No.70737721

>>70735692
It takes time to filter back to japan you retarded OP

>> No.70737722

>>70737648
Gonna be real, I don't even want to have this conversation. Maria seemed like a real sweetie and I don't want to put her down just to win an internet argument.
I'm very annoyed with you for using her as a weapon, though. Fucking poser.

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70737743

>>70737648
First result is Nijisanji rumao

>> No.70737761

>>70737128
Holocope:
>only nijinigs pull up cover stocks
>/#/ don't count as humans. Rest of the board is just happy to talk about CGDCT
Reality:
>/#/ === /Hololive Global/

>> No.70737768

>>70737743
>nijien gets caught using hololive tags for their stream
>STILL gets only 2 finanas to watch them
Oof

>> No.70737797

>>70737648
EN isn't streaming in the middle of the night. ID is though. Hololive still has a branch for SEA timezones.

>> No.70737879 [DELETED] 

>>70737797
Holocope. I'm not SEA filth like you I want English speakers.

>> No.70737975

>>70737768
>>nijien gets caught using hololive tags for their stream
you cant be serious lmao

>> No.70738084

>>70737879
Why arent you watching Maria?

>> No.70738094

>>70737879

>>70737975
You think that's bad? The nijiboys were fucking using selen and dokibird tags the other day for their collab.

>> No.70738191

>>70737879
I didn't say you were SEA. I said SEA timezones. Most English-speaking viewers are either not awake at these hours, or are getting ready for work. I'll grant you that we could definitely use more EU-friendly people in both corps though. Also I'm in CST. It's 4:25am here. I have insomnia.

>> No.70738207

>>70738084
sisters dont watch non-clique members

>> No.70738217
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70738217

>>70738191
Help my oshi is a night owl and I can't sleep.

>> No.70738266

>>70735692
is this another fucking thread about stocks in less than 24 hours? what the hell y'all yapping about that u need 4 threads

>> No.70738402

>>70737135
Because sisters love pulling up and talking about Kurokara's stocks and how much money Riku makes.
It's always them, and Holo stocks are only really mentioned because sisters love bringing them in when talking about Kurokara's.

>> No.70738429

>>70735907
Who the fuck said Niji would collapse immediately? Most anons I've seen either think it'll be a slow death for the EN branch only, or nothing more than a setback.

>> No.70738460

>>70738266
tourist board that will do literally anything to not talk about vtubers

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70738529

>>70735692

>> No.70738528

>>70735773
this, news has to get back ove rthe pond actually to them and it can be surprisingly slow and/or inaccurate or incomplete.

hell, many of them seem to still think Gura exists and streams.

>> No.70738640

>>70735692
>SEA hours
>full of retarded "bait" threads
These Filipino nijisisters don't even try at this point.

>> No.70738964

>>70736665
you realize nijisanji already existed before cover was even a thing right? they have been stuck with no growth almost on the foundation of cover, the new company almost catch up to them with their growth and they just keep going down, is like saying a new company overtook amazon in 4 years lmao

>> No.70739241

>>70735692
kek didnt anycolor just boost their stocks with that loans shit? it should be skyrocketing right now

>> No.70739271

>>70736390
>company covers debut expenses
so they dont even fulfill their part of the contract, because zaion has clearly stated otherwise

>> No.70739326

>>70739271
They only cover debut expenses IF they deem they need it. Probably just streaming equipment, not videos lore etc

>> No.70739335
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70739335

>>70735692
> convert your failing stock to be more volatile to encourage trading and hopefully pump up the numbers up that way
> didn't even get above the 3224 mark (where the 2.5B Yen stock buyback was done) on the first day
> plateauing instead of oscillating = no one's buying their bullshit
> in danger of being shorted to death now
Sisters... your company is on fire and you don't even realize it...

>> No.70739765

>>70735692
Sister buy the stocks now. It will never go lower than it is right now! BUY BUY BUY

>> No.70739811

Why is there no vtuber index fund yet?

>> No.70739837

>>70736924
>Difference is Cover has not had a stock buyback or margin lending issue.
Can't believe Apple, Alphabet and Microsoft are all literally fucking dying

>> No.70739957

>>70739241
That's the thing, this kind of boost really works as an additional boost on an upward trend. Like they planned initially with the buyback. Not when you shit is hovering just over 3k support.

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>>70739837
Don't listen to the anons! Buy! Buy! Buy! You're going to get so much money when Niji bounces back from all of this!

>> No.70740636

>>70739837
Those actions are generally reserved for mature companies(like your examples) with tons of money laying around and nothing much to spend it on. A young company, that should still be in it's growth phase, doing these things is a sign of desperation. Normally, at this phase in a company's lifecycle, they should be spending their money reinvesting in the company to help it grow. Not using it to manipulate stock prices. That comes later. Doing it this early is a sign that they are concerned shareholders are going to turn on them. They are trying to spread shares out amongst a larger group(that isn't familiar with the ongoing issues). The hope is to lessen any fallout from some of the more educated shareholders dropping them. Maybe it will work, maybe it won't. I don't particularly care either way. But it's absolutely not the same as large mature companies doing it. Those are just trying to squeeze out more profit from their stocks. Anycolor is making a defensive gamble because it's the last move they have in their playbook.

>> No.70741328

>>70736906
>>70737203
>I was just pretending to be retarded
The archive is full of holokeks applying the 2% to all their cuts.

>> No.70741406

>>70738094
i remember that bait thread, but it was one of the streamers in the literal who company they collabed with using the tags

>> No.70741409

>>70741328
What are you even talking about? Everyone knows that 30/35/35 is the standard for both on youtube.

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70741452

>>70741328
Literally rent-free, sister. Your oshi-company still suck ass.

>> No.70741583

The news of Niji contract leak has reached the JP Yahoo board...
Nijisisters are trying their best trying to save in the comments

>> No.70741586

>>70740636
So if I'm reading what you're saying right, basically Nijisanji is now completely and utterly out of options to inflate their stocks? Not a single thing to do other than actually turn things around.

>> No.70741653

>>70740636
It means Riku and other top execs are reactive instead of proactive, makes sense why everything they touch turns to shit.

>> No.70741731

>>70741586
>turn things around
It's way too late for that, I expect them to be bought out in 3 years.

>> No.70741796

>>70741583
Lmao yeah, fujo comments definetly will help.

>> No.70741865

>>70741586
They are gambling that this is going to bail them out. If it doesn't, I fully expect Riku to bail on the company. It will be the third(?) company that has failed under his watch. This one at least is big enough that he will probably try to sell it off to someone else. Keep an eye on his behavior. If he starts selling his shares or does unsustainable cost-cutting, then he's preparing to deploy his golden parachute. He'll run the company into the ground to generate as much money for himself as possible, then sell the smoldering remains to someone else to pick up the pieces.

>> No.70741887

>>70739811
Because there are only 2 companies unless you bought a bunch of TECH like Google, Apple, Amazon and such because "Well technically those services are necessary for vtubing."

Besides you don't really want to buy sector indexes unless it is something like OIL or Semiconductors that you intend to flip.

>> No.70741981

If I am Riku and want to stay in this business, what are my options?
Should I change my strategy from overseas growth to local business power?

>> No.70742023

>>70741409
hololive only takes 30% after YouTube, not 50% stop lying

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70742042

>>70735773

i wonder when the two more week will come
Yawn
so boring

>> No.70742065

>>70741981
Fire the Clique first and foremost.
Then completely adjust your payment strategy.
This of course is not something a trust fund billionaire would do.

>> No.70742124

>>70742042
>Ukichads
>chad
are you a male anon??
Doesnt this fag hate males?

>> No.70742125

>>70742023
Really? Wow fuck Nijisanji then. I'm not lying, just uninformed clearly.

>> No.70742150

>>70741586
They can start paying Dividends but that is a very short term fix and will pretty much kill all growth. Then once the divvy pays it will just dump anyway.
Like he said Buybacks and Dividends are taking the companies profits and giving it to the investors either by pumping the stock or literally cutting them a check.
Buybacks are considered better since technically the money remains in the company vs a dividend where the money could go anywhere once it is paid out.

That being said a company claiming they plan to do all these massive projects shouldn't be doing Buybacks because the money should be going to the projects.

This becomes an issue of stewardship. The people running the company just aren't very good at this. They are making weird moves you don't really see good young companies do and the Japanese investor doesn't hold the same optimism in their markets that Americans do. I say this because this shit probably would have worked to pump the stock in America.

>> No.70742195

>>70742124
come back when you can scratch niji, drama tranny
otherwise
go back to your reddit

>> No.70742210

>>70742195
Trolling outside /b/ is a banable offense

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70742229

>>70742210
keep crying, useless piece of shit

>> No.70742262

>>70742195
actual male Nijisister.... kek
When is your surgery?

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70742283

>>70742195
Go ahead then. Buy all the stocks! Show us ignorant morons how to make money. Nijisanji is going to the moon!

>> No.70742376

>>70742262
when dookiebird stop being a lying whore

>> No.70742435

>>70742376
retard, I dont care about her... I just want Niji and fags like you to burn and crash
Looks like it is coming true

>> No.70742468

>>70741981
The damage is critical. Every solution that keeps you in business and rights the ship requires you to open your wallet and take a deep personal cut.
>Hire ACTUAL managers, not high schoolers for minimum wage.
>Hire ACTUAL translators, not make talent pull double duty
>Hire a third party to investigate the EN branch and weed out the problems. Then, deal with those problems swiftly and accurately.
>Extend big olive branches to previous talents. At bare minimum, offer every ex-NijiEN talent their character IP to own, no strings attached. Offer severance or other compensation for the time in the company.
>Openly admit to wrongdoing, and define to the public what steps you have taken to deal with the problems within the company.
The main issue with all of these things is that righting the ship is a massive gamble. NijiEN's reputation in EN Vtuber circles is below sea level at this point, and by the time the ship gets upright, it might be on the sea floor. There is no guarantee that ANY solution, drastic or otherwise, would succeed in getting NijiEN back in good graces and possible to expand again.

I think that other anon is right on the money: Riku's gonna cut and run soon. He's not the type to actually fix issues, he'll just set himself up to exit with as much money as he can, then bail.

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>>70742435
Yawn
keep dreaming, phasecuck
you will forever behind nijiEN

>> No.70742588

>>70742483
>phase
wrong again...
Sister just take L and go to sleep, its your bed time in China beside Vox

>> No.70742757

>>70736390
>Anycolor is a good company while Cover is the black
I thought he was setting for a joke until i read further and it just another seething sister.

>> No.70742963

>>70742468
Honestly, considering everything that happened within such a short span of time it just makes sense in hindsight. The stock split could have been a one off thing, but the stock buyback after a somewhat difficult year for EN did raise some eyebrows. Changing their stock type in an attempt to increase liquidity right before their quarterly earnings report just seems to confirm that belief, he doesn’t have much patience left in him and he just wants to be golden-parachuted out.

>> No.70742973

Give them a break, anons. They probably just woke up and haven't seen the contract yet.

>> No.70743084

>>70742973
I'm now 100% convinced Elira embezzled some funds after seeing the TL'DR

>> No.70743485

>>70736665
Just wait for the next and last dump...

>> No.70743567 [DELETED] 

>>70735692
>nijinigger cope
keep crying nijibrony

>> No.70743637

>>70741981
No. That won't work. It's the shareholders that want overseas growth. They aren't ALL stupid. They see the Japanese market is oversaturated. Your JP livers are cannibalizing each other's viewers. You have to make it work somehow. You just can't open yourself up to more legal liability while doing so. Which unfortunately means that publicly apologizing for allowing illegal actions to take place is simply not something you can do. This means that if you want to turn public opinion around, and save the branch, you need to do the next best thing.

You need to invest in EN. REALLY invest in it. Not "$8/hr part time college students that can speak 4 languages at business level". Clean out the "management" and replace them with competent employees with fair pay. If they aren't paid fairly they won't do their jobs properly. This needs real management that will take their jobs seriously, not act out of spite and rein in the retards in public-facing positions(livers). You also need real translators. Do not trust, let alone expect, livers to translate for you. They may make mistakes, and are very likely to be biased. You need real professionals. You should also regularly audit the branch. You need to keep an eye on things. You should hire a third-party company to audit them. Do not trust the branch to do it for themselves. Do not trust JP to do it either, as friendships across branches could lead to bias. Keep an eye out for problems and take care of them before they blow up in your face.

You don't need to make the firings a public spectacle, but you do need to make sure that everyone is aware that you are cleaning up the branch. Lots of job listings. Ones that aren't embarrassing to look at. Have the few *trusted* livers remaining talk about how JP has stepped in and given the branch better, more helpful management. Talk about how there are way more managers than there used to be. Do more concerts in NA, possibly EU as well. Get the fucking 3D sorted out. Things like that. Show that you are truly committed to changing things for the better. With actions. Not empty words and 5 second bows.

Any livers who refuse to play ball with the new management will need to be phased out. Give them a graduation notice stating they are parting ways over mutual differences. Yes, even if they were ones involved in very bad shit. It might seem reasonable to burn them at the stake for their very real crimes, but it's not worth doing. Because you already did this to good people, doing it again will instill doubt in whether you have really changed your ways. You cried wolf too many times.

I would say consider suing any livers or employees that committed particularly egregious actions, but frankly your legal team doesn't inspire confidence and would likely lose the case. Which is another thing you desperately need to work on. Your legal team is woefully unequipped. Both foreign and domestic. Things like unenforceable contracts and NDAs, not to mention NDAs with inaccurate information, should never happen to a billion dollar company. It's a genuinely shameful display that needs to be corrected immediately. You need attorneys that are knowledgeable and competent in navigating the laws of the countries you hire people in; as well as the ones you do business in.

Once you get your affairs in order, it is time to reconsider other branches that you previously shut down. HoloID is thriving. There is no justifiable reason why NijiID should have failed. It will be hard, but you should make an effort to get back into that marketplace. KR also failed for reasons outside of popularity. I can't speak to its financials, but if it seems profitable it may be worth revisiting it again as well. Otherwise consider being the first major corporation to open an EU branch. It likely won't be as profitable as one streaming during NA hours, but it is a relatively untapped marketplace.

>> No.70743639

>>70741865
I can't find the thread, but an anon posted that Riku went from 45% of company shares to 40% when the share price spiked from 3045 to 3110

>> No.70743656

>>70743637
didnt read

>> No.70743975

>>70742042
lmao go touch some grass retard

>> No.70744094

>>70735692
That’s the pump from the loan margin trading, which is anemic enough that shortsellers are probably chomping at the bit.

>> No.70744328

You know how you know this is fake? Not one person here posted the " leaked contract " legit no proof lol

>> No.70744362

>>70743637
Did read, but Riku won't.

>> No.70744424

>>70744328
NijiEN is /here/, anon.
If you leaked the contract /here/ half the branch would know in 15 minutes.

>> No.70744537

>>70744328
People have already seen what the leaked contract is from the stream that happened last night. It’s a certainty that the branch is shitting bricks right now.

>> No.70744578

>>70744424
So what?? you guys suddenly scared of Niji now?? Grow a set

>> No.70744684

>>70744578
>Risking Hiromoot narc'ing on you to Totally Own The Haters
That's a NijiEN play, not the play a smart person makes.
Good attempt at a falseflag, though. I'm sure some people were almost convinced.

>> No.70744841

>>70742963
Holy fuck I forgot about the stock split.

So in 1 year they have
>split the stock 1:2
>performed a buyback
>opened their stock to margin lending

This feels more like someone playing a simulator game for the first time and just fucking with all of the functions. I wonder when it will come out that Jiku, Riku's cousin opened massive short positions in Nijisanji.

>> No.70744880

>>70742023
Hololive takes 50% after Youtube.
But we have perevious statements that that is the initial standard split and talents can renegotiate afterwards.

>> No.70744920

>>70744684
what the fuck are you talking about?? I legit woke up 7 minutes ago and saw a friend talking about this on Discord but wasn't sure if it was just rantings of a salty person so I came here looking for answers but didn't get that all I got is tat you guys ARE cowards and won't even post the contract, I mean not everyone wants to watch a 4 hour VOD right in the morning after they just woke up they'd rather just get a screenshot or 2 to catch up easily with the rest of the community which you guys couldn't even handle simple screenshots, take your meds

>> No.70744971

>>70744920
There's an anon transcribing the contract for people like you.
Just wait for that.

>> No.70745060

>>70741981
If you want to save EN in particular you have to start winning PR battles 1st. Stop the bleeding. Sometimes winning PR battles doesn't mean you sic the NDF on people and let them chew people up. That breeds resentment and anger. They've actually unironically made it the PR situation worse by responding to the Gurrat and giving it legitimacy. Then that idiotic hitlist. Acts of contrition, acts of goodwill help the PR battle at this stage. Not an attack dog frothing at the mouth. I felt they had a golden opportunity to score massive PR points by making a charitable donation to Doki's charity stream, it's public, can't be dismissed and acts as an olive branch. Stop the shitty notice of termination laundry list practice. You've done it twice and it's cost you twice big time.
Trim your roster way too many 2views and low 3 views in both branches. It helps keep costs down. Use the money saved to hire competent managers and a functional legal team and PR team. Yikes made you look like amateurs
Slow down - each talent is a brand. Brands need time to get a foothold. How do you expect any liver to succeed when within 3 months they've got internal competition cannibalising a viewer base with increased competition from other agencies
Don't be so fucking daft with your choices of talent for promotions. Why in the fuck would you send Enna, Reimu and Millie to a con so soon with so many dark clouds hanging around them. You generated so much heat that you gave False a chance to stick it to you. You could've sent Scarle, Rosemi, Maria, Aia and Vivi and no-one would care. And why did you put Elira the talent under the most scrutiny on the voicepack art? Are you stupid? Get her out of the firing line and take some heat off her and yourself. Pick someone else relatively untainted, commission some new art and delay the sale by a week or two. It doesn't matter it was done months ago. Months ago you didn't have a radioactive rep. Situation changed - adapt.
Most importantly understand optics are important. PR is important. Think about how your press releases/comms will be viewed by the public. Everything from tone, language and information will be scrutinised.

>> No.70745173

>>70741328
The archive is full of people using every instance of money being brought up to taunt you about the 2%. Post 3 that don't fall into that category since it happened so often.

>> No.70745312

>>70744920
The contract isn't online, Legal Mindset has it and talked about it with excerpts but he didn't upload the whole file.

>> No.70745540

>>70743637
You can technically juice the japanese market even more, they just need to utilize their IP more effectively.

Of course this also requires hiring people and spending money, but at least riku can say to shareholder "well I tried, but EN market is just impossible to penetrate. We will shift focus back to jp market"

>> No.70745944

>>70736390
>no 2%
anon that was a complaint that came from their own chuubas. and it was about the merchandise sales

>> No.70746476

>>70745540
>can technically juice the japanese market even more
yeah not happening. CCV of company wide events have been stagnant or even decreasing, while hololive has been increasing year over year.

Personally I know many JP fans who switched over to hololive as they felt more inclusive in everything that is going on in the company culture n stuff.

>> No.70746708

>>70746476
read the second paragraph, nijisanji needs to start advertising and pushing especially weaker member in order to strengthen the brand as whole. Promise the fans events, anything that exciting.

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>>70737975
Even ex-hanamori fags (and Elira's BFFs) are doing it.

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>>70737975
Even when they collab with nijisanjiEN livers, by the way.

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>>70737975
To the point that even Doppio caught wind of the shitshow when it was discovered, and proceeded to use Picture Related tags

>> No.70747380

>>70739837
Only companies that have reached market saturation get loan margin issuance, mate. Volatile companies in their growth phase deliberately don't even think about doing that, because their shares can be used as collateral to secure other securities and underlying instruments. That leaves the entire market able to use the stock as a vehicle to hedging other positions, siphoning outstanding shares away from the company and away from the industry, further damaging the positions of the primary investors of the company in question.

Anycolor Incorporated should not be preoccupied with share repurchase campaigns and dividend yield deltas at this point in time. It's troubling that it does.

>> No.70747381

>>70741583
Post japanese wisdom anon

>> No.70748019

>>70739271
Up to 2k yen in equipment if deemed neccessary

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>>70737743
>>70737975
>>70747037
>>70746966
>>70746906
Wow that's pathetic, now they're using Hololive JP's tactics lmao

>> No.70748660

>>70739837
>let me Cherry pick companies with trillions of dollars in market cap and compare them to a TECH start up with a market cap of a few billion

If APPL, MSFT, and GOOGL went down as much as Nijisanji has it would cause a global financial panic.

If Nijisanji went bankrupt the Japanese market wouldn't even notice.

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>>70735692

Aahah, very interesting, anon.

>> No.70748933

>>70743637
>invest in EN
I don't think they can at this point. They don't have enough fund to do this.

>> No.70749037

>>70748618
You really had to dig for a 2+ year-old stream for that one, huh sis

>> No.70749815

>>70749037
Have been around since the start so I have lots of shit saved, didn't have to dig at all lmao
I'm not interested enough about them to go and check anything recent but they probably stopped doing it after being caught, they still did it so what's your point anyway?

>> No.70749924

>>70735999
>>70736171
>>70736354
>>70736675
>>70742283
>>70739765
>>70737481
Imagine
>Some /biz/-savvy anon pretends to be a sister creates a rentry on how to support Anycolor by buying their stock
>Effectively guiding them into doing riskiest of trades (have them do binary option or something) with BS explanations on what they're doing, in order to "fight the good fight", "for the cause", for their "liege"... or whatever,
>sisters buy high sell low with their life-saving/their parents' life-saving because they are retards
>A few days later
>/vt/ is flooded with pink wojak

>> No.70749935

>>70749815
Yes, sis, they were caught, the manager was reprimanded, and it immediately stopped as soon as it began. It's been over 2 years.
You can continue astroturfing.

>> No.70749982

>>70749935
Yeah, so?

>> No.70750009

>>70742042
Yawn vs Sigh
Who wins?

>> No.70750157

>>70749924
It's not possible (I've tried).
The moment the chink sisters see a post that's properly formatted, using proper syntax and grammar, and appears authoritative, they IMMEDIATELY sniff that it's a man posting, because women are braindead cattle that couldn't possibly write adult sentences to save their lives, and couldn't possibly manage multiple sentences without contradicting their original assertions mid-way.
So, they instinctively start kvetching and shouting "incel" when they come across such posts.

>> No.70750428

>>70735692
>"Ha! You tought that shooting me again would kill me, but I'm still alive! In fact, I just took a morphine shot and I'm getting up!"

>> No.70750610

>>70736632
See, it's about to spike. Buy Buy Buy Sisters!
If love Anycolor, Buy. If they fail, it's your fault!

>> No.70750627

Why would share prices fall because of exploitative employment contracts? That is exactly the kind of shit investors want to see.

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>>70750157
Maybe you should've prefaced the post by saying you were a male sister.

>> No.70751153

>>70750627
Because they want this stuff to be hush-hush, Bringing attention to it brings annoying stuff like bad press.

>> No.70751269

>>70751153
Press is temporary, profit margins are forever. Any savvy investor will be overjoyed to know how little of a shit Riku gives about his chuubas.

>> No.70752221

>>70751269
Profit margins decreased in 2023 so I'm not sure they are as sempiternal as you claim.

>> No.70752403

>>70752221
Of course. But that has nothing to do with their shitty contracts, and more with their shitty management in general

>> No.70752519

>>70735692
It's pretty funny how every time they try to save their stock price another yab drops.

>> No.70752545

>>70750627
This. It's so pathetic of the NDF to try and claim that Cover's contracts are the same as Niji's when we know for a fact that shareholders were whining to Yagoo about too much compensation going to the talents compared to other companies (obviously meaning Niji).

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