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What was Hololive's biggest mistake? (not males)

>> No.70699916

>>70699866
HoloCN

>> No.70699950

>>70699866
The XY chromosome talents

>> No.70700021

>>70699916
fpbp

>> No.70700084

not firing gura, ame, shion etc anyone who doesnt stream

>> No.70700158

>>70700084
why fire people that doesn't want to leave but still can bring in money? you are a dumbass.

>> No.70700195

>>70700084
i dont like that either but to be fair to them they are idols not streamers

>> No.70700345

>>70699866
Hiring picrel

>> No.70700633

Not cutting off China at the first sign of rebellion

>> No.70700684

>>70699866
removing the panties

>> No.70700748

>>70700084
this unironically.
they can't just keep adding talents forever. at some point they had to either stick with the maximum amount of girls they can manage (which leads to stagnation) or start firing the deadweights, except the longer they had to wait to fire them the more rooted their fanbase becomes, leading to a louder uproar. Their current number is already unsustainable that even the largest 3D studio in Japan couldn't fit all their schedules.

>> No.70700990

>>70700748
These deadweights you call actually bring money to the company, shion ayame are one of the largest merch sellers there's gura especially after that sushiro collab generating huge profit

Streaming is not their only avenue now anon

>> No.70701242

It will always be Sana until someone can outdo her

>> No.70701436

>>70699866
The Taiwan incident

>> No.70701769

>>70699916
Yogurt deserved better, but yeah, opening that branch was a strategic misstep. It was a foreseeable situation, that eventually someone in the company would piss of the bugs. At least they made the right decision when it came down to it. Hololive would be unrecognizable today if they tried to maintain their CN market. I hate to admit it, but Myth probably played a big role in convincing them they didn't need to.

>> No.70701920

>>70700084
>firing people who bring in millions just for existing
sister moment

>> No.70701988

the loss of personalized swimsuits

>> No.70702182
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70702182

>>70699916
lolchama FPBP

>> No.70702689

Pandering to unicels, the pitiful fucks

>> No.70702730

>>70699916
fpbp

>> No.70703170

Succumbing to Capcom's threat of shutting down Mio's channel leading to the Holocaust.

>> No.70703489

>>70700748
>deadweight
still bring in large amount of money unlike your liver organ failures.
>fit all their schedules
nijinigger you outed yourself, if you actually watched them you know space and schedules isn't the problem.

>> No.70703593

>>70702689
fuck off finana

>> No.70703596

>>70702689
much better than pandering to racists and mentally retarded sisters, nijikek.

>> No.70703707

>>70699916
actually this, never involve yourself with CCP
>>70700084
Having Gura in despite that shes practically already graduated at this point is just free money for cover

>> No.70703786

>>70700748
gura literally sold $1 million of merch in a week anon
what the fuck are you talking about.

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>>70703707
yea.. gura doesnt make that much money..

>> No.70703926

>>70703593
>>70703596
>MUH TALENT FREEDOM

>> No.70704122

>>70703489
Space and schedules is the entire problem. They can't just invent new days of the year. There's a max cap to Hololive's system of pretending all its talents are equal but constantly adding more and they've hit it.

>> No.70704287

>>70699866
Their biggest mistake was their abysmal EN management and overall planning.
Cover waited way too long to debut Council. They had no problem going full on accelerate mode with the JP branch, but when it came to EN, they simply gave close to 0 fucks. When Myth girls were still pulling huge numbers, all they had to do is debut a new gen on time so the new girls could simply be there for their senpai to collab with, fill in dead hours and so on, but no...Then they totally fucked IRyS in all possible ways - ugly, segregated, some weird shitty contract and so on. Then they waited forever to debut Advent, but not before dropping EN homos on everyone and basically making them public enemy #1 just for existing and daring to debut. Not only they made fans wait forever for Advent, but they also attracted unnecessary negative attention for the homostars from disgruntled Holo fans. Just brilliant.

>> No.70704448

>>70699866
Hiring Sana tainted the EN branch permanently.

>> No.70704480

>>70703864
You know supas are not the only source of revenue for them right?

>> No.70705148
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70705148

Fuck off Laplus, you whore. There's nothing even remotely cute about you after you proved yourself to be a homocumdumpster. You're just a liar, self-entitled ultra-grifting cunt who needs to hang herself. You were never an idol and you will never be one. You're the very cancer that is plaguing HoloJP and i hope they will exorcise you soon. Im so glad things are not going your way and that you're sinking into irrelevance. You don't deserve your design, superchats, or any support from Cover whatsoever. Fuck, you don't deserve to be on the same generation with the other girls. Your very presence is repulsive and obnoxious. You degrade the other talents simply by being in close proximity to them. If you want to fuck your homostars so much, then go exchange addresses with them and let them creampied you 20 times a week. Oh, sorry, maybe you'd already done that ? Take it to the next level and become a hooker, you grifting whore. That way you'll get to suck even more cocks and fill your disgusting cunny pussy to the brim. You're a fucking wasted slot in the garden of HoloJP. In fact, you are the fucking rat crawling around in an otherwise heavenly abode. There are so many other good talents out there who would kill to get in and work their asses off. Yet here you are just wasting valuable space and unable to keep it in your pants, lusting for homobeggars dicks. You are the personification of wanting your cake and eating it too. I can't wait for your grifting ass to graduate so HoloJP can speed up its healing process. I watch with glee as your donos plummet and your non cucked members not renewing their memberships. Who the fuck would spend a dollar or yen on you ? Maybe sell them a penny apiece, so they could be used as kindling. Goddamn whore, sending you superchats is as bad as donating to the satanists, you veritable pile of monkey excrement. You are a waste of oxygen and other earthly resources. A gram of fucking weed is worth more than your cheap-ass, undignified existence.

>> No.70705191

>>70705148
ok

>> No.70705259

>>70699866
Not putting a permanent studio for EN.

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>>70699916
true

>> No.70705319

>>70699866
Males.

>> No.70705448

>>70704287
They were completely fucked over by the travel restrictions on EN because all the resentment from Myth and their fans got compounded with more generations, not lessened. ID was safer because they have national unity but EN's all want to be treated as the standard simultaneously as if that were possible.

>> No.70705548

>>70703864
Huh, Flare makes a fuckton more than I would have expected, I always thought she was on the lower end of popularity in Japan.

>> No.70705608

towa,lhaplus,regross

>> No.70705651

>>70705548
She has a very dedicated fanbase.

>> No.70705723

>>70699916
fpbp
I still miss my oshi Coco Kaine

>> No.70705755

>>70699916
I disagree, without HoloCN they would still pander to the chinese, HoloCN was the perfect scapegoat to gain some good PR after it was revealed most of them were CCP whores.

>> No.70706075

fpbp
>>70705755
But I also agree with this.

>> No.70706326

>>70704287
Horrible management almost destroyed the EN branch though it wasn't because of Tempus. There were other issues going on with HoloEN long before Tempus was released and 2022 was the year when everything boiled over at the same time. A project manager doesn't get replaced for a branch unless things were extremely bad.

>> No.70706462

>>70703864
>Uyu makes more than Yopi
Please, pagi my dick, I will supacha you more, Yopi

>> No.70706545

Hired good looking women, because they all fucked it up, Mel, Rushia, Laplus, Coco.

>> No.70709183

>>70706326
Nah it was tempus, they admit they share resource and management during 2022 and have to halt en3. Only after en management clean house there would be a seperation of managerial entity, hence the existance of gorimane(holostar en director)

>> No.70711736

>>70699916
yup

>> No.70711815

>>70699866
EN

>> No.70711867

>>70703864
GO BETTEL GO

>> No.70712014

>>70699866
Not having HoloJP capitalize on their overseas fans enough. They should have pushed for more English only streams. They were extremely viral and it would have also been in a solution for the lack of EN members. Management keeps telling the JP girls to find a new audience, having two languages to pull from would have made a bigger steady drip of new fans.

>> No.70712663

>>70712014
They all really lost their EN audience members. You can tell just by going back and comparing streams from a few years ago to today. I noticed it when I was looking through old Watame streams. Her chat used to be fucking filled with English, I'm talking like 25% of all chat messages. Now you would struggle to find even one English comment in her chat.

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>>70703864
Impressive. Very nice.
Now show me the merch revenue chart. You know... where the actual money comes from.

>> No.70713468

>>70699866
Hololive middle management and lack thereof. The obstructive nature of middle management got really bad.

>> No.70713795

>>70699866
The September 5th 2025 incident.

>> No.70714744

>>70699866
/vt/

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70714838

>>70699916
djrbi?

>> No.70715211

>>70703926
holy rent free

>> No.70715339

>>70699866
HoloEN fucking sucks and was a mistake

>> No.70718117

>>70713350
Cool, nobody actually has this though

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70718202

>>70712663
They could earn them back if they tried.

>> No.70720083

>>70705548
Flare picked up a majority foreign fanbase some time ago.

>> No.70723615

>>70701920
It's not 2020 anymore copechama

>> No.70725872

>>70699916
china is always a mistake

>> No.70726673
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70726673

>>70699866
Not capitalizing on her oozing bratty sex appeal

>> No.70727014

>>70726673
They've tried, but like Sana, she just can't

>> No.70727090

>>70705148
you're sounding like Henri, take your meds

>> No.70727200

>>70700990
Then fire the other deadweights that don't sell?

>> No.70727496

>>70727200
They can't realistically do that without giving up on major parts of the market share though.

Same reason Disney keeps desperate hold over all its old, largely obsolete IPs

>> No.70727703

>>70711867
Bettel? Nah.
Octavio v Goldbullet, that's the race to watch

>> No.70728102

>>70705259
And where should be that studio genius?

>> No.70728829

>>70728102
That depends. For proximity it would need to be in a /solid/ red but not genuinely homophobic state in the U.S., which might also tide it over for legality....so Florida?

But otherwise the next best bet is probably Australia for legal reasons, in the ACT, NSW or Tasmania.

>> No.70728910

>>70699866
EN

>> No.70729111

>>70728910
You're implying CN was better than EN, which also means you hate JP.

What are you, some kind of korean born in indonesia?

>> No.70729503

>>70699866
Not bringing in Fuwamoco sooner.

>> No.70729950

>>70699916
/Thread

>> No.70730070

>>70729503
Bringing them in when and how they did provided the stability for them that they always deserved, think things through before saying them

>> No.70730163

>>70730070
I thought it through. You're wrong.

>> No.70730169

>>70706462
ID 1 and 2 fans mostly use Stramlabs or Sociabuzz

>> No.70730216

>>70730163
I may be wrong about you not thinking it through, but doesn't change your being wrong about it.

>> No.70730232

>>70728910
This
ENfags are the worst thing that happened to this website

>> No.70730335

>>70699866
Not making rhythm mobile gacha game using their original songs.

>> No.70730418

>>70706545
So I guess hiring Towa was a mistake, too...

>> No.70730496

>>70730232
'to this website'

retarded frog, tiny puddle

>> No.70730561

>>70706545
>anybody in the same tier as Rushia

>>70730418
Matsuri too

>> No.70730760

>>70730561
Matsuri is just fat and full of filters.

>> No.70731183

>>70700684
This tbqh

>> No.70731505

>>70730760
If you're calling that fat, we're going to have to explain the concept of anorexia to you

>> No.70731682

>>70699866
Holostars

>> No.70732673

>>70699866
probably the Holocaust.

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>>70699916
fpbp

>> No.70734718

>>70699916
Why do we even have a thread still? This is the true answer.

>> No.70735400

>>70699866
Not blacklisting Nijisanji, they should've terminated Kiara the moment she started felating their shaft and Pomus
Terminate anyone even following anyone from nijisanji on twitter

>> No.70735544

>>70699866
>was
Obviously Omegatranny. Laplus is just nonexistent and HoloX doesnt have any good chemistry even without her. I dont even remember her since she doesnt appear in any holo collab except you sometimes see her doing something small on the official channel.

>> No.70736547

>>70700084
>not firing gura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flGVlL622p4
https://youtu.be/KCsb-APHanc?si=YYzLJuBYWWaLsEhf&t=397
Just from last month

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