Is it worth it in the end ?

[Anonymous No.]

This guy went as far as making NijiEN blacklisted from Offkai Expo just because Anycolor gave him Youtube strikes

[Anonymous No.]

Dramafags won, the absolute state of this industry

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>>70633974
Dramafags built this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
It's pretty funny

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>>70633812
Naw, him and Khyo hate Anycolor because Anycolor went on a takedown spree for their videos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633974
crazy to think about it, huh. still not giving views to vultures.

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>>70633812
BASED

[Anonymous No.]

I am thoroughly entertained. No matter who loses, the vtuber fandom wins. I say keep going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Everything else aside, he's objectively doing good work right now.

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>>70633812
Of course. Hope he goes after Hololive next, they have tons of skeletons on their closet, starting with Rushia, Mel, Aloe, and HoloCN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
>if he gets fucked for doing it
Doesn't matter, he served his purpose
>if he gets away with it
His continued presence metastasizes Nijiseethe
ALL
OUT
WAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
He's being paid off by Mori

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Fucken based

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
Can't have skeletons in your closet if you hold a funeral, Anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
I blocked him everywhere after he fucking harrassed a 4chud chuuba at offkai last year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
> Rushia
He gave korekore attention so that is that
> Mel
Be real anons. Her termination was as peaceful as it gets. Even Narukami didn't give a shit about digging deeper when there is nothing to dig
> Aloe
Pretty sure he reported on it and even reported on Delu offing herself
> HoloCN
I think he reported on it too but he was at first stage of his channel and barely got views for it. But he did spam many reports on Coco graduation and kson joining VShojo

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>>70633812
>He was actually tipped off that Niji was the one that was rejected
>Offkai dropped their spaghetti and can't false advertise anymore that Niji is still appearing
>Niji still looks bad somehow

[Anonymous No.]

Based af

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
HoloCN was a mistake. Getting out of that west taiwan was a good thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
>Skeletons in closet
>Names shit in public knowledge for years

Learn english before you attempt to use it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
that shit was based
>make them travel to location.
>wait till they land.
>oh yea actually you can't go lol
get fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70635622
Lae-Dee love

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
sisters, how do we stop all this winningsssssss

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>>70633812

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>>70633812
I like how he used to get like 80-100k views per vid at most but is now doing 200k a pop
he should superchat some niji's as thanks I think

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>>70633812
Don't fuck with the news if you're trying to be a black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634956
I believe this rrat
Actually it isn't a rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>70635622
I want to fuck Lae-Dee while Eye-D is recording one of his videos

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
If only the nips didn't memory hole pearl harbor and it's consequences maybe this might not have happened

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>>70636255
>The news
unironically kill yourself, you're an actual retard if you believe this faggot is anything even remotely close to a news host

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>>70635490
He did report on Mel, mostly as a "yeah, this is a thing that happened, anyway back to shitting on nijisanji" way

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
>Gets fucked by Nijisanji once
>Dedicates his entire career to revenge
Honestly, kinda based

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634956
*sucked off

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
>Earnings totally reliant on the internet's goodwill
>Treat livers like shit with no respect
>I miscalculated... but where?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70636426
He is a news host, and the fact that he is makes you seethe

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>>70636540
And this was about Niji, not False.

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>>70634861
All nothingburgers

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>>70636544
you're retardation isn't making anyone mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>70635946
>vtuber
>travel to a location
?

[Anonymous No.]

To be fair it's really bad for nijiEN to be in any western event now especially enna and millie

It's just inviting something bad to happen

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>>70636479
That's all it was

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>>70636772
Yeah who knows what antis will do? Rush up and stab the screen? Lol.

[Anonymous No.]

I feel like this discredits him if anything. He speculated on something and Offkai said the decision had been 2 weeks ago, so on or about near the time the black screen video came out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70636944
I'm more worried about Doki turning up in cons now with how utterly demented the Luxiem-Noctyx fans are.

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>>70636255
>"The news"

This fucker is a worse source of "news" than /here/. The fact you genuinely think he even qualifies as a news reporter shows you're a fucking retard. Hope that dumbass gets dragged to court and gets fined however much money they were gonna make at Offkai. 105 dollars per ticket by the way

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>>70636944
> Ask questions about the whole dokibird issue
> Actually make things that will really make both offkai and nijiEN to be facepalmed with shame
> Throw shit at them while in the event

List goes long anon, even if someone stabs the screen that will really be a huge embarassment to the event

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>>70633812
UNFATHOMABLY BASED

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>yt strikes
YT should absolutely ban people who missuse copyright claims. I don't care for drama tubers and I don't need them to tell me obvious shit like nijisanji bad but yt not fixing this shit is outstanding

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
i kneel purpleman

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>>70636426
True, actual news hosts are more retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Dont blame the messenger

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>>70637168
Lmao seething Zhang

[Anonymous No.]

>>70637168
Anycolor dragged Narukami to court but failed

Don't expect that clown company to put anyone in jail

[Anonymous No.]

>>70636426
Sorry, you don't get to decide what news is. Freedom of the press and all that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Fuck this fag.
BRING BACK FALSE YOU TWINK BITCH

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>>70637821
Losing once doesn't mean you always lose, how do you think law works? Especially when the defamation case is as clear as this.

>False implies Nijisanji is the reason why people and vendors are getting rejected from the event
>Offkai says that it has nothing to do with Nijisanji
>Hours later, Nijisanji is removed from the event

Even a baby could prove this shit in court by showing 3 screenshots. I hope that fraud gets sued

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>>70633812
>>70635946
qrd?

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>>70633812
I can get behind that kinda pettiness myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
TOTAL NIJI DEATH

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>>70633812
>just because Anycolor gave him Youtube strikes
You mean Anycolor talked shit and got hit? Maybe they shouldn't copyright strike someone who's telling the truth

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>>70638211
imagine being niji not paying talents and creating "we love artists" bs. then making a story about how an artist got "harassed" for selling niji merch.

now people are scared of that will actually happen at offkai con. niji cant stop losing

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>>70633812
NijiEN fucked around and found out, it seems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
They can destroy each other for all I care

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>>70638302
The guy reported on Zaion and he got double strikes for it (3 strikes = channel deletion) so he turned 180 on Niji and became the primary source of Niji dramas. He even BFF with Khyo after that shit when they were hardcore enemies with each other before that

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>>70634861
The brownest of hands covered in salsa habanero typed this.

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>>70633812
>niji dumps on dramafag
>takes down his videos
>tries to get his channel deleted
>nearly succeeded
>niji fucks up
>dramafag gets stronger
>niji fucks up again
>dramafags gets bigger again
>doki
>dramafags turn super saiyan
>this isnt even my final form.png
>dramafags now strong enough to cancel niji
>you are here
>niji fucks up again
>dramafags drop the guillotine
Still... fuck dramafags

[Anonymous No.]

Hilarious that niji is getting absolutely mogged by this blue faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
He's still going to probably drop whatever he has on Offkai rejections if there's any other smoke

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Get mogged

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>>70638211
It's a company known to cheap out on everything, is clueless about overseas, and can't even score wins in Japan. I wouldn't hold my breath.

>I hope that fraud gets sued
By Offkai's own words, their decision was made 2 weeks prior, before False did anything. They'd have to prove Offkai is lying.

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>>70639017
>salsa habanero
More like sambal.

[Anonymous No.]

False is my oshi

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>>70634199
Actually yes, people come here for the gossip a lot.

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>>70633812
Nijisanji deserves all the shit from dramatubers because they tried to terminate Khyo and Falseeye for covering the Zaion situation.
I fucking hate dramatubers, but fucking based for them to strike back honestly.
They're milking this drama for every cent, and well-deserved considering Niji nearly killed their sources of income.

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>>70633812
I hate dramafags like Hitler hated jews but I gotta admit that in his shoes I would go as far as selling nukes to Japanese extremists just to have my revenge against Niji. So I hate him but respect the grind, hopefully everyone involved has a fatal accident by the end of this.

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based, still not going to watch this faggot or his ilk though

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>>70639424
>hey tried to terminate Khyo and Falseeye
Sounds based to me

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
What doesn't kill you makes you
justified on any vengeful fury you may throw at them

[Anonymous No.]

I have no love or hate for niji but if any dramafag tries to trouble hololive, I hope their channels get crushed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70636675
ESL pagpag faggot

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>>70635622
LAEDEE IF YOU ARE HERE I WANT TO SMELL YOUR ARMPITS AAAAAAHHHHHHH

[Anonymous No.]

>>70636675
esl-chama....

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638893
Anycolor uniting the vtubing community, you love to see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638211
It's not about that
They lost because of several trivial things too like they're selling roa merch and claiming they have damage from being defamed is such one of the many points in the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
False I used to hate you but now you have earned my respect.
I KNEEL

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Niji scarred Doki
Niji scarred Sayu
Some Niji livers pretended to be good people
Niji is my enemy and my enemy's enemy is my ally.

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>>70638211
To sue him they'd have to also sue Offkai. Personally, that would be a decision I support cause it would continue this infinite streak of drama Nijisanji is involved in and which eventually will choke them to death.
So Enna, since you are reading this, ask Riku to sue.

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>>70638211
Lmao this isn’t shitty Japanese law. Any case Kurosanji to make would get laughed out of court even before discovery proved False right.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640240
>Niji scarred Sayu
She was there 3 months...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
>BLACK COMPANIES HATE HIM
>LEARN HOW HE FUCKED THEM OVER WITH THIS 1 COOL TRICK

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640371
They already got btfo'd in Japan for something similar, I'd love to see them try here.

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>>70640323
>To sue him they'd have to also sue Offkai.
No they don't. Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638211
Imagine having this much confidence on one $7 Lawyer. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.]

I expect a parrot video cooking soon. Nijisanji really forcefeeding him like a christmas turkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>70639321
>They'd have to prove Offkai is lying.
Oh yeah. I guess it was just a coincidence that they replied to False's tweet and hours later drop Nijisanji from the event. This definitely would be hard to prove

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
if Niji can't survive the shitposts of a dramatuber then they don't deserve to exist

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
>Aloe
Wasn't that also a Nijisanji-related yab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
>false still holding the niji silver bullet for april

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641071
qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

Of course he starts going against Nijisanji. Dude was a Nijishill back then. Now Nijisanji is against him. I remember him deleting any comments that are against that black company. Glad he got out of that.

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>>70641071
at the rate Sayu is dropping bangers he will not get to say anything

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>>70640615
Yes they would have to

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>>70636479
he reported on the drama surrounding kotoka as she was being accused of being the snitch

Mel termination literally became a random ass nothing burger in the grand scheme of things

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>>70640757
In first world countries, there's something called reasonable doubt that has to be overcome. They'd also have to sue Offkai as well. By all means, they should do it. It'd trash their reputation further and be really funny.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634956
>>70636505
I wish that was me

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641315
In what universe does someone have to also sue the company dropping them due to defamation along with the person doing the defamation? The convention dropping them is a damage of the defamation which is what False would have to pay when he loses

[Anonymous No.]

For all we know, False got Offkai in a trap and was actually about to make a statement about Niji talents getting booted from the convention. All he did was force them to break the news before he did

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640757
Offkai at worst just needs to produce a single internal email between staff from 2 weeks ago or even before this whole shit saying Niji livers were going to be uninvited

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641548
>That one AI Mori voice thing that didn't involve horse dicks
One of the best nuts of my life.

[Anonymous No.]

So, the narrative people are running with is that he somehow accused or implicated that Nijisanji was pressuring vendors/guests to get rejected.

Except, that's not what happened? He did include a pic of the guest list which featured Ethyria, but he just said "weird rejections". Before Offkai responded, plenty of people assumed the opposite i.e. Nijisanji-related guests & vendors were getting rejected (which turned out to be true).

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641571
This guy>>70641446 already explained it. Anon, trust me, we both know you haven't dealt with lawsuits enough to talk about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638893
kek based revengechad

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641446
Explain how it isn't speculation and how assuming Nijisanji is the reason why a convention rejected a vendor is common sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641702
I NEED to be spoonfed anon, I beg of you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641273
Nah, the info he alluded to seems to be someone spilling the beans from niji corpo side rather than a liver; allegedly more fucked than the selen stuff

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641571
>not making any statement of fact
>convention claims decision was made 2 weeks ago
This will just be laughed out of a court by a judge

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641731
>Nijisanji-related guests & vendors were getting rejected

They said the rejections had nothing to do with Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641821
why?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641821
That's why they'd have to prove it in front of a court. Offkai says one thing, Anycolor believes another, Anycolor has to prove that their version of the story is true to sue him which means involving Offkai.

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>>70641986
>2d 1098, 1106-07 (Fla. 2008). "'Defamation by implication' is premised not on direct statements but on false suggestions, impressions and implications arising from otherwise truthful statements." Armstrong v.

The decision was made two weeks ago my ass. They decided to officially drop them on the same day False starts spewing horse shit because?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Dramatubers won so hard it's hilarious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642008
The rejections were not caused by Nijisanji, instead it was Nijisanji that was the one getting rejected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642057
Because that's what reasonable doubt means, clown

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
based false

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642226
That still means they were caused by Nijisanji. What kind of semantics are you trying to pull?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
>Mission accomplished, Sakana-sama

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642247
you're gonna have to point out where false claimed nijisanji was responsible for the rejections.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642169
You cant sue someone for saying they heard a rumor anon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642412
Hey, he can try..

[Anonymous No.]

>>70641946
Will this be the final yab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642169
So.. exactly as everyone is telling you, they'd have to sue Offkai to prove that the decision wasn't taken two weeks ago. They have to actually prove that this happened because of False before suing False.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640556
Nice boat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642397
So did you not read the definition of defamation by speculation?
>>70642412
If they started the rumor/ spread the rumor and are directly responsible for you losing your spot at a convention, yeah you can. That's what defamation is

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642608(me)
Correction I meant to say "to sue False" instead of "before suing"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642656
>If they started the rumor/ spread the rumor and are directly responsible for you losing your spot at a convention, yeah you can. That's what defamation is
Which according to the organizers didn't happen so we are back at square one

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642608
Are you retarded? Do you think the only way to get people into court is by suing them? They'll give their testimony and a lawyer would make them admit that False spreading that rumor made them drop Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70636944
>slightly provoke them
>they lose their shit start screaming at you
>film it
>another megayab
Those girls are retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634199
>>70639363
Okay False

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
every penny of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
BASED BASED BASED

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642809
No fucking lawyer is gonna make them do shit anon what's the last time you've been in court?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642656
when you say "defamation by speculation" if you mean this >>70642169 then yes, I did read it
and yes, you will still have to point out where false made a statement that implied nijisanji was responsible for the rejections
and no, the image featuring offkai's guest list and a rejection email header is not enough; he could easily claim he posted the guest list because it was related to offkai, and the header to give credibility to the rumor he was talking about (the rumor that offkai was rejecting people, and nothing else)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633974
Actually, gachikoi and shitposters built this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642933
You're making a real retarded argument if you think that lawsuits don't have people come in for deposition

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643016
Actually some drunk developers built this board, we just posted shit on it built nothing

[Anonymous No.]

Remember Nijinegros, Flase had his tongue so far inside Nijisanji's ass that he deflected any yab they could have and made shit up to smear Hololive in the process, what say you now fuckers?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
People will hold a grudge over FALSE (kek) copyright strikes, dramatuber or not.
Nijikeks wanted a fight, they got it and is now losing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643061
Anon answer my question, what is the last time you've been in court? Because you still haven't showed me that you have an ounce of experience with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643087
I'm gonna need this one in english if you want a proper response sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Like 90% of this dude's reporting is just reading what the companies and indies wrote themselves. If you get fucked by false, it's because you put out the material that screwed you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642656
Note the specific phrasing "hearing of..."
Note also the call for information from the public
If anything, he enjoys journolistic protections if you take the whole tweet into context

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642941
>he could easily claim he posted the guest list because it was related to offkai,
Which is why it's specifically showing guests from Nijisanji when all his videos for the last month have been about Nijisanji and he admits to holding a grudge against Nijisanji. Judge and jury would laugh at any attempt to say it was coincidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
The only major injustice in Hololive I care about is Hitomi Chris.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643295
For some reason Nijisanji is really good at that

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638211
Except defamation in the US is notoriously difficult to prove.
-There needs to be proof that False did it with malicious intent (he can easily weasel out of this and claim that it was to bring it to the public's attention, or it was to bring in more interactions).
-There needs to be proof that he made these statements KNOWING that the information he had was false. Which is going to be difficult to prove, especially since Offaki itself admitted that it wasn't due to Falseeye.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643304
Hearing of rumors and spreading them is defamation. Just because you ask for more proof a rumor happened, it doesn't mean you didn't start the rumor.
If you think he legally qualifies as a journalist, I'm going to severely doubt you're human

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643321
>showing guests from nijisanji
yes, they were featured at the top of the guests page for offkai, check wayback machine if you want.
>all his videos for the past month
quite literally does not matter if we're talking about defamation as a result of his tweet
>admits to holding a grudge
cool
>judge and jury would laugh
yes, because there's no justification for a defamation case against the tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the YouTube drama way, OP. Niji came at the king and missed and now FalseEye is out for blood. I don't have any sympathy for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
IT
KEEPS
HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643321
The topic was about guests and nijis are literally the first thing you see when you open the page.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638211
Goddamn it Anon you fucking ignorant slut, defamation doesn't work that way, especially in the US

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643530
>There needs to be proof that False did it with malicious intent
He famously holds a grudge against Nijisanji
>There needs to be proof that he made these statements KNOWING that the information he had was false.
No he doesn't. Harmful speculation is still defamation. Offkai responding to False at all proves he implied Nijisanji was responsible

[Anonymous No.]

Bow down to the best dramachuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643754
Then go ahead and prove it in a court of law

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643754
>offkai responding proves he implied nijisanji was responsible
and me responding to you means I can sue you for defaming offkai like that right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643589
>yes, they were featured at the top of the guests page for offkai, check wayback machine if you want.

Ok, genius. Then how come he didn't post their logo above it or a picture of the convention but specifically members of Nijisanji being on their guest list.

>quite literally does not matter if we're talking about defamation as a result of his tweet
Considering it would prove he deliberately put Nijisanji there since he always talks about them negatively, yeah it does

The community has fallen if retards here are genuinely defending dramatubers

[Anonymous No.]

Defamation by speculation would be saying "I speculate that the reason that >>70642656 is such a fucking idiot is because his mom fucked horses and gave him brain damage as an infant and probably once raped and killed a missing child behind the 7-11, why aren't we asking questions about why OP's mom could potentially be a horse-fucking degenerate murderer'

Nowhere in FalseEye's statement did he state or even imply Nijisanji was behind it, people just INFERRED it from the image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638211
Realistically, you would need evidence to get past Anti-SLAPP, which is quite strong in many states. But you don't get discovery, like deposing OffKai, until after you get past the Anti-SLAPP, so either False, OffKai, or their lawyers would have to fuck up massively for this to happen.

Assuming that False has actually done wrong, and ignoring that any suit would hurt Niji far more than it would help them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640240
I wouldn't quite call them allies, but they're at the very least useful for now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644029
Defamation isn't a protected form of speech

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643989
>specifically members of nijisanji being on their guest list
because he clicked on the guests tab of the offkai page and didn't care enough to scroll down to sate your retarded fanfiction?
>it would prove he put nijisanji there
how so
it's pretty funny you think me explaining to you that this isn't making it to court means that I'm defending dramatubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643754
>He famously holds a grudge against Nijisanji
Not enough to pass

>No he doesn't. Harmful speculation is still defamation.
Speculatory claims are nigh impossible to win against and require statements to be so outrageous that the plaintiff can prove their own statement to be false

>Offkai responding to False at all proves he implied Nijisanji was responsible
Which moves the onus to Offkai and is irrelevant if you're trying to sue False.

Just give it up SEAsister, you clearly don't know how American law works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643584
Just because you seethe at dramatubers
doesnt mean he doesnt enjoy protections from the law
Asking for info is not spreading rumor, its seeking clarification
You don't have to like it but it is what it is

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644306
Defamation isn't assumed, people aren't guilty just because they are accused by the other party. So, the Anti-SLAPP is likely to apply, and Niji must meet a high burden before they get to discovery, and if they lose the Anti-SLAPP would be responsible for False's reasonable legal fees.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644434
Anon, most NDF are thirdies for whom rule of law doesn't exist. What you're saying is likely beyond their comprehension.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644364
>because he clicked on the guests tab of the offkai page and didn't care enough to scroll down to sate your retarded fanfiction?

So he was talking specifically about Offkai and only Offkai but clicked on the guest list and edited it over a rejection notice while saying there are "strange rejections" happening. How so? Because that's all he talks about. It's called a pattern of behavior

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644671
yes, because the rejections were for guests and vendors, hence him posting the guests page
are you good, or do you wanna argue that he could've posted the vendors page?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644527
Yeah, defamation is proven by the day of False starting a rumor involving Nijisanji and Offkai, Offkai drops Nijisanji. Literally all the proof they need to get to court

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643454
Kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644828
>Defamation is asking a question
So what thirdie shithole do you live in?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644806
He could have posted any other picture or just no picture at all. But he deliberately chose the one with Nijisanji in it. And Offkai had to respond and tell people it wasn't because of Nijisanji. Because he clearly indicated it was because Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644828
Okay, you are being intentionally obtuse. Whatever, enjoy your LARPing about something that won't happen for a variety of reasons. I hope I'm wrong though; I hope Niji is retarded enough to take this to court and further damage their rep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
But the decision was made two weeks ago, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Falseeyed graduation when?

[Anonymous No.]

>defamation
If false is American, especially Californian there's no chance of a lawsuit happening. Niji needs to cut their loses and try to show positive and thoughtful changes for good pr otherwise they are doomed

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644994
why do you think offkai had to respond?
I'm not gonna bother replying to you about False's tweet implicating nijisanji because you're clearly not reading what I've said about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645002
If nijiniggers weren't retarded they wouldn't be nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640371
In the US, you need to prove two things for defamation:

-That the person was using false information that he KNEW was false to publicly call out an individual/organization/company.
-The said person (defendant) had malicious intent when making their public statement.

Both are really difficult to prove.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644828
Offkai claims the decision was made 2 weeks ago
Which lends further credance that False heard info about strange guest cancellations (that happened 3 weeks ago btw) and wanted a second source

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644917
>Supposed source of news: "Wow, they are some violent activities going on in this city. Tell me about any violent crimes going on here"
>Edits a picture of someone holding a knife along with a picture of someone who was murdered
>People start assuming he's a murderer and he loses his job for it

Yeah apparently this isn't defamation because first amendment or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

So how many people are going to OFFKAI with a blank piece of A4 paper?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645332
what is in the picture posted by false that matches the knife in your comparison?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70640556
ACCELERATE

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645426
Why is that what you're hung up on? Let's remove the knife. Now it's a picture of some dude along with a murder victim. Still gives off strong implications

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645227
I just think it's funny that defamation supposedly bypasses the Anti-SLAPP stage when the most well known defamation case these days (Depp v Heard) HAD an Anti-SLAPP stage. Even if you didn't know about that, it would be obvious that defamation is THE claim one would make if they are trying to shut someone up for saying bad things about them. Obviously Anti-SLAPP would apply.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644828
Why are you still arguing you dumbass retard? False said he heard a rumor about Offkai and "strange rejections". Those rumors turned out to be TRUE, with Nijisanji being the one to get rejected.

Even if we go along with your stupid nonsense bullshit, you can't sue someone for making true statements. Not outside of Japan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
Aloe and Mel are both also Niji's fault, getting rid of Chinese people is always a good thing, and Rushia probably would've gone sooner or later anyway considering how unstable she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645224
Because people were starting to bother them about Nijisanji causing people to be rejected from the convention as a result of False's tweet. Did you think they would respond for no reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645208
No, doubling down will surely work this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645532
alright, who's the murder victim?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634861
we already know you're leftover chinks, nijisisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>70642333
What kind of semantics are YOU trying to pull? "Nijisanji caused themselves to get rejectes from Offkai"???
ESL or just retarded?

...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643835
Who? No, really her model is SEEEX!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645332
>IP of a billion dollar company on a convention page about said convention is same as framing a random private citizen
Again, what thirdie shithole do you live in?

>People start assuming he's a murderer and he loses his job for it
Maybe if your brain is rotten from pagpag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638112
the chinks don't have that concept, pls andastd

[Anonymous No.]

>>70643754
New York Times Company v. Sullivan 376 US 254 (1964)

To sustain a claim of defamation or libel, the First Amendment requires that the plaintiff show that the defendant knew that a statement was false or was reckless in deciding to publish the information without investigating whether it was accurate.

Reckless is an insanely high bar BTW.

Speculatory claims are not defamation in the United States, its the reason our entire Tabloid industry and shit like TMZ is allowed to exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
You know what Falseyed? You're alright in my book.

[Anonymous No.]

I just saw the news and tweets about Offkai and Niji.
Aren't they basically lying? If they already decided 2 weeks ago that Niji aren't coming, then why did they only announce it now when the rumors got out of hand. They basically got free 2 weeks of scamming people.
False may have baited the drama, but if it wasn't for his tweet then Offkai was going to completely scam people till the end.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70638710
It's genuinely delicious how much that shit backfired on them. Their one actually well-planned attempt to win back favor in the west and it spawned multiple yabs and made them radioactive to conventions

[Anonymous No.]

everybody laugh at nijisanji
https://files.catbox.moe/9qhexb.mp4

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645533
Tell me what ended up happening with Depp vs Heard. They have clear evidence of defamation. This is clearly not an attempt to shut him up if there's proof of actual damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645889
Waiting for your lawyers to check things and giving Niji a chance to prepare on their end? Isn't that obvious?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645889
they obviously are lying, and they hit the panic button.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646017
>they have clear evidence of defamation

They do not have evidence that cracks the Actual Malice standard.

Actual Malice requires more than 'He doesn't like us'

[Anonymous No.]

The fact that this board and dramatubers have this level of influence on vtubing means western vtubing is doomed. This community fucking sucks

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646156
This is what happens when you chuubas are terminally /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646092
but it's not fair!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646156
I wonder who could have given dramatubers this influence

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646017
Depp had mountains of evidence of defamation and intent based on messages stored on his phone and statements from various professionals, which he could present at the Anti-SLAPP stage.

Niji has no additional evidence unless it is provided to them. They don't get discovery to find this evidence, it would require False or OffKai to deliberately shoot themselves in the foot.

Again, even if False is 100% in the wrong, this is an extremely difficult hurdle for them to overcome as it stands.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646156
I'm sure you actually think that /here/ are the only people who currently hate Niji. When /vt/ is actually the place with the strongest NDF presence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645992
HOLY KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645773
>Reckless is an insanely high bar BTW.
Not when the idiot literally says in the same statement that he only just heard about it and wants more people who were rejected to come to him. TMZ gets sued for defamation all the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646092
>Actual Malice requires more than 'He doesn't like us
I guess you can ignore him saying he does hold a grudge against Nijisanji and consistently making videos about Nijisanji and on other rumors that make Nijisanji look bad

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
he did it just for the LULz

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646606
actually based

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646331
>says in the same statement that he only just heard about it and wants more people who were rejected to come to him
what does that have to do with defamation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646534
>consistently making videos about Nijisanji and on other rumors that make Nijisanji look bad
That's akin to chinks crying about the media making their country look like a shithole.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Drama CHADS have been WINNING since 2024 started

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646331
Thats not recklessness in the context of defamation.

You need ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE that it is false, or RECKLESS DISREGARD

RECKLESS DISREGARD in a defamation context means that he would have to actively disregard a substantial and unjustified risk that the statement is false.

Actively disregard means he would have to actively disregard a substantial piece of evidence that would strongly suggest that he is wrong.

Mere speculation here does not crack that barrier.

>>70646534
I can, in fact it likely must be disregarded under Rule 404 of the FRE

"(1) Prohibited Uses. Evidence of any other crime, wrong, or act is not admissible to prove a person’s character in order to show that on a particular occasion the person acted in accordance with the character."

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645737
Tatara channel!
She's from the latest Yakuza / RGG game lol

[Anonymous No.]

Bro imagine being enna right now
>birthday mogged by a piece of paper
>doki passed her in subs
>kicked from one of the biggest cons alongside her bestie
god damn that’s tough

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646708
Thx

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646156
No one tell this guy about Korekore

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646534

That could be used for evidence for malicious intent, but any decent lawyer would have it thrown out for heresy.
The prosecution needs to prove that IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, the defendant acted with malicious intent. Which is VERY difficult to prove.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646662
It has to do with him recklessly starting a rumor without having any evidence that caused the convention to feel the need to kill the rumor

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646767
The clique ship is starting to take on some water

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646534
yep

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Based

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646817
I like how you throw in words you heard minutes ago and pretend you understand how they are meant to be used in this context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646817
sister, just because you can use legal terms to describe something in normal conversation doesn't mean it's applicable in a legal context

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646817
thats not what recklessness is in a legal context.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646817
>recklessly starting a rumor
>starting
You know something we don't?

[Anonymous No.]

I really hope the congoers start a loud Doki chant just to spite kurosanji even more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
When False got his copyright strikes resolved by AnyColor not following up, I already thought it was strange. Given the past month, not following through with those strikes is just NijiEN's modus operandi, poorly thought-out, impulsive, and arrogant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646331
Yeah, and TMZ doesn't lose that many cases because the bar for defamation in the US is the highest out of ANY developed nation.
In the US, you can technically write a lie in a newspaper and not be charged for defamation if the lie is ridiculous enough that the public would reasonably not believe it.
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1966/37

This court case (Curtis Publishing Company v. Butts) even recognized that even if the source they got it from was unreliable, as long as the defendant believed that the information was true, they could not be sued for defamation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646799
How could his own words be hearsay? If his past behavior shows he has a grudge against Nijisanji and he actively makes videos on rumors that would harm Nijisanji's reputation, that would help prove he acted with malicious intent when he fucking edited Nijisanji members over a termination notice while hearing reports of "strange rejections"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646817
"reckless" by definition in the United States, means inciting violent or unlawful actions with said statements.

Falseye's statement did neither. Nothing illegal happened, and there weren't any violent actions taken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647118
when did he edit nijisanji members over a termination notice?

[Anonymous No.]

this sister just can't stop getting her back blown out
holy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647118
>he actively makes videos on rumors that would harm Nijisanji's reputation
The counterpoint is that he reports on both negative and positive news for all corpos. Its not his fault Nijisanji only has nonstop yabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646767
You forgot:
>gets outed as one of the bullies
>still bleeding subscribers
>decides to snipe doki's charity stream and gets mogged in views
>"If I killed someone you'd still support me"
Elira must be feeling incredibly vindicated after deciding to hide like a rat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647118
Because you need to prove (as a previous anon mentioned) that his actions were malicious for THIS SPECIFIC CASE.

The only piece of evidence is his photoshopped photo, something which can not be easily proven as malice.

I've stated in other threads, but he can make many reasonable excuses if placed in front of a judge.

- It was to gain public engagement
- It was due to this event being related to a controversy happening in the same sector (Vtubing).
- It was to bring it to the public's attention.

Even if you get past the "malice," part, you need to prove that he willingly lied and knew he was using false info.

If, with records to prove it, he believed that the information he received WAS TRUE, then he can NOT be sued for defamation. (Curtis Publishing Company v. Butts).

If he is telling the truth, then he is already clear and the case is dead ("Truth is a valid defense.").

If he believed that the information was false, and used it, and you can prove malice, that is the only way to win this case.

But with Offkai already admitting that their decision was NOT due to Falseye, this case would be thrown out within seconds.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647154
Thats illegal speech, which is actually that it must be likely to cause unlawful actions to happen. Super high standard. Higher than Reckless

Reckless is just that you have to actively disregard some sort of fact. Like if there was an existing clear statement of why someone did x, and you go with y, you could be liable for defamation if you had good reason to believe that x was the reason.

Unless of course y is the reason, truth is always a defense to defamation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647118
That's not how the law works. You aren't allowed to bring up a person's past acts during a case. It's the sort of thing that can get a lawyer disbarred or a case thrown out. It's considered unfairly damaging to the party. For example, if a person is a convicted pedo, that has no bearing on whether they stole that day. However, a jury will be unreasonably inclined to find them guilty based on that information. In fact, you can't bring it up for another pedo case either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647154
>Behavior that is so careless that it is considered an extreme departure from the care a reasonable person would exercise in similar circumstances

Don't know where you got that definition from

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647339
Oh yeah, confused those two for a second.

Reckless is, as you said, disregarding the truth and knowingly posting false information.

But even that gets murky, as you can't be sued for defamation if the "information" you posted is so ridiculous, it can't be taken seriously by the public (Hustler Magazine, Inc. v. Falwell)

[Anonymous No.]

FalseEyeD can't be sued regardless because there's an official statement that says the decision was made 2 weeks prior to whatever shitfest happened today.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647402
I confused Reckless and "Imminent Danger." The former is for defamation, the latter is for free speech in general.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647492
Yes, additionally you can't be sued for defamation in most cases if its an opinion statement, like 'In my opinion, I think xcon is doing thing for y reason' is not a fact statement, so therefore it cannot be defamation.

Defamation must be a falsifiable statement, IE a fact statement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
If Blackcolor gave me strikes i'd do my best to fuck them over too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647520
b-but they only said that because false made them!!

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji really cant go a week without a negative headline somewhere. What a mismanaged MESS.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646156
Niji dig their own grave

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647520
There is nothing stopping me from suing him for the fall of the Roman empire.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647665
b-but Elira is a fantastic manager!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647387
Yeah you can, it's called a pattern of behavior and is used as evidence. In Depp vs Heard, she tried to use his ex wife as evidence of his history of being violent with romantic partners.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646767
What was that about it being the "best year of her life"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
Based. Someone needs to make Niji accountable and anyone who makes the sisters seethe is gold in my book.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647747
remind me how that went for her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
I admire his restraint not accurately portraying his gigantic dinosaurian dick on his character model

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647747
>Pattern of Behavior
>Pattern of Behavior means behavior by one party in an intimate relationship that is used to establish power and control over the other person in the relationship through fear and intimidation.
When you confuse colloquial language as legal terms you only make yourself look worse. This has nothing to do with what you are saying.

[Anonymous No.]

Half of the people on this thread are SEAfags who are getting shocked that America isnt some shithole country where you can just throw around defamation

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
The drama is the content. I hope kurosanji love the attention!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647945
I'm a US lawyer I wanna die.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647741
>Elira coming back from her enforced break after leaving the house to her lackies

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647747
>she tried to use his ex wife as evidence of his history of being violent with romantic partners.

Which was thrown out of the court for heresy, and a reason why she lost in the US.

You can not cite previous infractions for the crime at hand. If that was the case, any crime involving a former felon as a suspect would just be carte blanche to jail them again.

You CAN bring it up, but the court will focus on the EVIDENCE at hand first.

The defense can also claim the prosecution it has no relevance to the case, and claim the prosecution is bringing it up to assassinate the defendant's character even before reviewing the evidence at hand.

"According to Rule 403 of the Federal Rules of Evidence, the court may exclude evidence, even if relevant, if its probative value is outweighed by the potential for unfair prejudice or other harms to the jury process. Accordingly, the judge must weigh these considerations when ruling on a relevance objection.

Example
Bringing up the previous criminal history of a party to the case would likely be objectionable on relevance grounds. Even if this has some potential relevance to the case—for example, does the fact that your client was convicted of embezzlement 20 years ago make it more likely they defrauded the plaintiff in this case?—the judge could determine the information would unfairly sway the jury against your client."

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647748
Dumb bitch was so high off of bullying Selen out of the company that she didn't realize what would come after that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648017
>through out of court for Heresy

kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648048
kek I mistyped cause this retard had no idea of American law.

Trust me, we have a fuck ton of laws, for good or for bad. Only Americans that have some knowledge about American law will understand half the shit.

Of course SEAmonkeys have no chance of understanding; this shit is a labyrinth even for us.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
I admit, it would be VERY funny if that was true, but he wasn't even involved. It's pure Offkai/Nijisanji shittery.
Niji just asked for too much. Offkai really wanted them because they want to establish themselves, so they abided at first. But all the bad PR made NijiEN a bit radioactive - and then NijiEN decided to ask for even more shit on top of it. So Offkai backed out of the deal and told them to go pound sand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70647338
Not how it works. If I say I hate someone a year ago and that I'll smear their reputation and now I accuse them of a horrendous crime, that doesn't mean what I said a year ago isn't proof of malice. Saying it was to bait clicks doesn't work when he has admitted to hating them beforehand and consistently brings harmful rumors to the public's attention while barely mentioning any other corporation. No one needs to prove he knowingly lied since harmful speculation counts as defamation as well. He could not know if it was true since his only source of information was a single rejection screenshot and he was asking for more evidence. Offkai is clearly lying considering it makes no sense for them to say they decided two weeks ago but decided to announce it on The day he starts the rumor

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645614
>getting rid of Chinese people is always a good thing
>Doki is Chinese
Really makes you think...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648222
Well, yes but also no.
False only asked to contact people looking for a story, it was kind of a baited tweet but nothing to be worried about.
Offkai hurried response cause the story to pick up, and then dramatubers (not him) started to report on it.
Offkai could have easily avoided 90% of the flak. It was a massive mess they threw themselves into.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648247
it actually works almost the exact opposite way you described it, impressive

[Anonymous No.]

>>70646767
As of now Doki hasn't passed her YET
Just 600 more to go, so I'll give it until tomorrow or the day after

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648284
>Mainland Chinese = sub-human
>Hong Kong and Non-Mainland Chinese = human
Learn the difference chink

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648017
>heresy
WHERE?

[Anonymous No.]

Let me ask sisters, what do you think Niji will be able to get out of this from False that would be worth going through months if not more than a year of additional bad pr and legal fees?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648222
>NijiEN a bit radioactive
Kek. I bet event organizers wouldn't like a possible riot inducing personalities. Actual violence on spot could happen and I'm not joking, cancelled event is unironically better outcome for everyone involved right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648361
By the time he started asking around, the decision was already made, and Nijisanji already knew they were out.
False fishing for drama just caused the public announcement to be rushed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
the announcement was going to happen anyways but he tweeted before them. they cancelled 2 weeks ago

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648017
>Which was thrown out of the court for heresy, and a reason why she lost in the US.

What fucking court case did you watch? His ex wife came up and said what she said happened didn't happen and that he never hurt her. It very clearly wasn't thrown out as evidence. Other wise that wouldn't have happened

Someone saying they hold a grudge against someone when proving malice is objectively not irrelevant. You're literally just making shit up now

[Anonymous No.]

>defamation is when someone says something I don't like >:(

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisisters are seething! I love this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648554
Don't care. Have that fuck deleted from the Internet

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648400
All Chinese are bad. You just sound like a chink trying to cope with being one kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70644828
I actually wish nijisanji listened more to you 39iq retards just so we can have nijisanji burning down 24/7 on our newsfeed. Nijisisters really love sticking to retarded narratives despite being btfo'd repeatedly by actual lawyers and normies who can plainly see how retarded their mother corpo is

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
NijiEN's PR disaster and Selen's mental health crisis were the best thing to ever happen for his career.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648755
>no logic, just seethe
sister reflects the black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648796
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648835
>actual lawyers
>actual lawyers

Funniest shit I've heard all week

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648247
Did you not read the example I posted?
While yes, Falseye's case would be more recent, it is STILL not relevant to the case. The prosecution needs to prove, that Falseye knowingly slandered them FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE.
Previous cases of him supposedly acting in malice, is not admissible for evidence.

>Saying it was to bait clicks doesn't work when he has admitted to hating them beforehand and consistently brings harmful rumors to the public's attention while barely mentioning any other corporation.
Where is the evidence? If you're so confident, find the clip of him saying it. And even then, did he say this during/after this case started (when he posted that tweet?)

> No one needs to prove he knowingly lied since harmful speculation counts as defamation as well.
You are absolutely wrong. "Speculation" can NOT be prosecuted for slander under US law.

False's statement framed it as a question and a speculation, nothing CONCRETE (which is NECESSARY to prove slander in the US). If he said "Oh, I'm certain that there's something shady going on" and posted that photo, that would count. But he framed it ambigiously enough that there is no case because he didn't make his statements as "concrete facts."

>He could not know if it was true since his only source of information was a single rejection screenshot and he was asking for more evidence.

Which is his right to request for more evidence from the public, since he's a "journalist."

And how do you know his source was only one single rejection screenshot?

And how do you prove he didn't know if it was false or true? Again, in the US, if he BELIEVED it was true, even with flimsy proof, it is NOT SLANDER. Refer back to Curtis Publishing Company v. Butts.

> Offkai is clearly lying considering it makes no sense for them to say they decided two weeks ago but decided to announce it on The day he starts the rumor

Again, you would need to prove that Offkai is lying, but even then, they PUBLICLY admitted that it was their decision alone. So already, they have no grounds to sue because that would mean that THEY were lying.

And neither can Anycolor.

[Anonymous No.]

The funniest thing about this debacle is that dramafags cant create content out of thin air.
The lolcow that is nijisanji and its 39iq army just keep feeding them. It's a spectacle to behold.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648982
Lolcowsanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648915
Not an actual lawyer, but I do have a background in legal (internships along with a degree in it).
Any "defamation" case would be laughed out of the court. This is a nonstarter as nonstarter could be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648915
As opposed to the rando retard here claiming niji can win a defamation case over this shit, hell yeah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648247
Actually just entirely wrong.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648944
>you would need to prove that Offkai is lying
Great way to get yourself barred from every other con that doesn't want to be involved in this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoevers arguing that niji can win a defamation just stop you clearly have no knowledge on US law go back to your shithole country

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648915
I understand you do not exist outside the catalog and your doxxsite, lil sis. But normie lawyers and pr managers all see how shitty you and your corpo is and rightfully avoid associating with your ilk (as demonstrated with recent events)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648982
In this case, the dramafag DID create content out of thin air.
Offkai dropped Nijisanji a short while ago, and both knew it already. It just wasn't announced yet.
My guess is, it leaked to False through someone, and False started fishing around for juicy nijidrama in public view. So now, it looks like False CAUSED Offkai to drop Nijisanji by investigating some shady dealings.

[Anonymous No.]

I sure hope Niji tries to sue False. It would be the funniest shit ever to see this black company ruin whatever scraps of a reputation they still have left. Please do it, the shitshow would be glorious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70634279
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, MONTRESOR!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70645899
>one actually well-planned attempt
DYRBI?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70648944
>prove, that Falseye knowingly slandered them FOR THIS PARTICULAR CASE

The fucking photo

>Where is the evidence? If you're so confident, find the clip of him saying it. And even then, did he say this during/after this case started (when he posted that tweet?)

Watch his videos

>You are absolutely wrong. "Speculation" can NOT be prosecuted for slander under US law.
>>70642169

False is not legally recognized as a journalist, stop the horseshit . If it was speculation, how the fuck could he have assumed it was true? He framed it as a question and implicated the "strange rejections" was because of them. Offkai lying is obvious since they never decided to publicly say no up until today. Unless you're saying they'd lie in court

[Anonymous No.]

>>70650082
>legally recognized as a journalist
If you are acting as a journalist, you have journalist protections. You don't need a license.

How are they lying?
>It's obvious!
kek

>lie in court
They don't have to speak in court until Niji gets past the Anti-SLAPP.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70650082
>watch his videos
"i don't actually have timestamps or evidence because i'm literally talking out of my ass"

>legal recognition as journalist

what the fuck are you talking about the cited caselaw, armstrong v. simon and shuster is literally about allegedly defamatory passages in a book. the forum/venue claim here would actually be stronger if you said dramatubers weren't journalists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70633812
He could not have done it without Nijisanji.
"What doesn't kill you makes you stronger."

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>>70650082
>The fucking photo
And that proves he's acting in malice... how?

>Watch his videos
Nonadmissible for this case, as mentioned multiple times previously.

Even if it was admitted, the prosecution would need to somehow relate those videos to his current case.

And again, what he said was SPECULATION. He framed nothing as concrete proof. Which means, it can't be prosecuted under US slander laws.

>False is not legally recognized as a journalist, stop the horseshit . If it was speculation, how the fuck could he have assumed it was true? He framed it as a question and implicated the "strange rejections" was because of them. Offkai lying is obvious since they never decided to publicly say no up until today. Unless you're saying they'd lie in court

in the US, anyone can call themselves a journalist. It is not a government given title or the such.

"Legally recognized" means he needs to have a business, and call himself a journalist. Which he does.

Again, if he received information, no matter how horeshit it may seem, and BELIEVED IT WAS TRUE, then he can NOT be sued for slander.

Offkai is an AMERICAN convention, which means AMERICAN slander laws apply.

And if Niji tries to sue Offkai, claiming that they were lying, then no con (not even in Asia) would want to associate with them. That is a HUGE risk for NO gain.

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>>70650082
>False is not legally recognized as a journalist
America isn't your shithole country where journalists have to be approved or certified by a governing body

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>>70650736
>And that proves he's acting in malice... how
Deliberately having to edit them into the photo while "reporting" on strange reflections occuring. His videos are related because they're clear evidence of him constantly bringing harmful rumors to attention. Rumors are still textbook defamation, he said he heard of strange rejections and implicated it was because of Nijisanji. Even if he is legally recognized as a journalist, that doesn't protect him from defamation. TMZ always gets sued. I'm not claiming Offkai would be sued, I'm saying they obviously wouldn't commit perjury

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>>70633812
Nijisisters always have the flimsiest rationalizations to blame on.
It's all the drama tuber's fault, lmao.

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>>70650867
there's stuff like reporter's privilege in most states even though the Court rejected federal protections in a split decision or whatever, but yeah that anon is clearly some faggot from a country that we should probably have bombed more than it has been

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>>70651081
>Deliberately having to edit them into the photo while "reporting" on strange reflections occuring.

Again, he can defend himself that what he said was speculation, which would then lead to the case being immediately thrown out. Nothing in his tweet was presented as fact, if anything, he raised a question.

Speculation CAN NOT be prosecuted under US slander laws, I said this like 5 times now.

>His videos are related because they're clear evidence of him constantly bringing harmful rumors to attention

And how does that prove malice? Again, clarify for me specifically how that shows malicious intent for supposed slander in regards to that tweet.

Bringing rumors to attention is not slander. They are just that: rumors. You said it yourself. That means, it's not concrete fact he presented, just rumors.

Which is a non-starter in any US slander case.

TMZ has gotten away with even worse things and they're still around btw.

>Rumors are still textbook defamation, he said he heard of strange rejections and implicated it was because of Nijisanji.

Holy fuck, they are NOT textbook defamation.

To quote.

"So, an opinion that's texted or Twittered, no matter how vulgar or shocking, probably can't be the subject of a defamation lawsuit. You can probably say "Person A is the ugliest, dumbest person I've ever met" and not be liable for defamation, because you're voicing an opinion. But if you say "Person A cheated on her tax return," you're opening the defamation door because you've offered up an accusation that can be disproved. "

This is textbook NOT slander-worthy. Rumors fall under speculations, and they can NOT be prosecuted for slander.

>Even if he is legally recognized as a journalist, that doesn't protect him from defamation.

You are correct, but he had said nothing that would be classified as slander.

In fact, journalist often get more leeway in slander cases in the US, because they bring news.

> TMZ always gets sued. I'm not claiming Offkai would be sued, I'm saying they obviously wouldn't commit perjury

And TMZ always survives and wins, because slander/defamation is a HIGH BAR in the US.

Offkai would obviously tell the truth in a court of law, but they said it themselves that they made their decision independently.

So Niji would have to prove otherwise.

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So he got the Offkai Niji news and vague posted just before. The sisters went scorched earth and mask off to cancel him putting words in his mouth? Ooooof

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>>70636426
>>70637168
You fags really idolize reporters. 99% are hacks, just utter cowardly lying trash.

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>>70633812
>"Is it worth it"
Yes, what kind of question is that? More popular than ever and he's only hanging Niji with their own words. Kurosanji should be asking themselves that instead.

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>>70641356
>he reported on the drama surrounding kotoka as she was being accused of being the snitch
Only after Kotoka was stupid enough to make a "subtle" tweet about it.

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>>70640746
I expect you to kill yourself

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>>70641702
I remember that. But now that you post Vespet, I've been wanting to find that one that ends with Boulevard Of Broken Dreams

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>>70634861
nah, he should nuke phase next.

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>>70651382
Speculation that makes implications about someone or something that aren't true is defamation. You don't need to outright accuse people for it to be defamation. His videos where he admits to having an anti Niji bias and spreads other rumors that make Nijisanji look bad. Rumors are quite literally nearly always regarded as defamation. He never stated an opinion, what opinion was ever stated. He implicated that they're the reason people were being rejected. Offkai clearly decided to announce Nijisanji was removed from the event because of the rumor. They responded to his tweet and tried combating said rumor

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>>70633812
>NijiEN blacklisted from Offkai Expo
Offkai's announcement was messed up. They should know their audience. Should have said the reason it was canceled is due to "covid"

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>>70634861
You don't really know what the phrase "skeletons in their closet" means, do you?

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Not gonna keep arguing with a retarded SEAmonkey who has no understanding of US law

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>>70652618
Cry more faggot

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Hope we bomb your retarded country in the future

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>>70652732
Cope

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>>70652732
>C-Cry more faggot

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>>70652253
Holy mother of illiteracy.

Let me put it in super simple terms for you.

He said “HEARING of strange rejections.”

HEARING (MEANING HE’S NOT STATING IT AS A FACT, CLAIMING RUMORS)

RUMORS

SPECULATIONS

NOT PERMISSIBLE UNDER US SLANDER LAWS.

By all means, go and crowd fund a court case and see how it goes. I bet my entire life savings the court throws it out immediately.

You dumbasses are literally arguing with Americans, some of us trained in US laws, over OUR OWN COUNTRY’S SLANDER LAWS. I literally spent years studying this you fuck, this would be thrown out in a second.

Idk where you live, but rumors, speculations, anything of the sorts ARE NOT CONSIDERED SLANDER. I referred multiple cases above, go do us a favor and read.

>admitting anti Niji bias

Proof? Time stamp? Screenshot? You want to play law, offer the evidence

>he implicated

And I’m sure you have this in writing, not a vague post Twitter bait.

Saying he “heard” things basically declares that nothing he is saying is facts, which again, is the whole basis for slander in the U.S.

>they responded to his tweet

like dumbasses. They fell for a bait, hook , line, and sinker.

And again, THEY SAID they made the decision independently. Please provide evidence to the contrary.

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>>70633812
I said and before and will say it again, getting back at any company trying to strike your yt channel with copyright is based in my eyes

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>>70652973
You don't need to state something as a fact for it to be defamation, you retard. You don't know the law of your own country like the common retard. Robert Jones sued TMZ for spreading rumors and won. You don't need to implicate someone through saying something, shit like posting a picture implying it is enough.

>I literally spent years studying this you fuck, this would be thrown out in a second.
More LARP. Prove you're even American instead of just blowing smoke.
>Defamation by implication: An injury to reputation that's caused when literally true factual statements create a false impression

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>>70652973
>reddit spacing
Go back mr. big shot law man