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> Livers begins to wake up and realize the success that Doki, MatarKan and Kuro had
> Some talents are starting to wonder if being in niji is positive
> Scarle, Millie and Rosemi's graduations are still pending.
> THE KLIQ IS ALIVE AND WELL
>We are still looking for a manager to handle this bs
Fun fact
> Elira, Vox, Ike and Enna are willing to graduate ONLY IF they get that management position

>> No.70629569

>>70629159
>Some talents are starting to wonder if being in niji is positive
>starting
Retarded if true

>> No.70629681

Millie ain't goin anywhere lol

>> No.70629751

>>70629159
>Elira, Vox, Ike and Enna are willing to graduate ONLY IF they get that management position
Please let this be real.
Please.
It would be sooooooo funny.

>> No.70629865

>>70629159
A couple weeks ago I saw someone say that this Niji spy shit is basically Q Anon for vtubers and yeah you guys are retarded if you still believe this.

>> No.70630041

>>70629865
?

>> No.70630207

>>70629159
Come on dude these are all the safest takes. You need something extra juicy to be convincing.

>> No.70630245

>>70629159
I don't understand. Vox will graduate if he gets a management position at niji? He'd be making a significantly less amount of money. Am I ESLing?

>> No.70630247

>>70629865
>A couple if weeks ago I saw someone say something on the internet. I believe him. You guys are retarded for believing something some guy said on the internet.

>> No.70630257

>>70629159
>Elira, Vox, Ike and Enna are willing to graduate ONLY IF they get that management position
Why would they want to graduate just to get into a lower paying position? Your shit is retarded.

>> No.70630431

>>70629159
What are doing Ling? Only two of them are right

>> No.70630611

>>70629159
>Millie [...] graduation is still pending

I doubt she wants to get out. She got nowhere to go in this space anymore. What she gonna do? go back to a low 2 view? lmao

>> No.70630685

>>70629159
Fan fiction shit is getting desperate, how long until all the former anti niji guys just start turning on each other

>> No.70630716

>>70629865
You sound like the kind of guy who tells his entire discord server he ignored someone.

>> No.70630928

>70629159
>space 15
>space 12
>space 6
>11
>space 16
Nice try, glowie

>> No.70630998

Millie graduating would be the death knell of the branch. If the certified shill cuts and runs then you know it is over.

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70631180

>>70629159
>> Livers begins to wake up and realize the success that Doki, MatarKan and Kuro had

>> No.70632415

>>70630685
Anti-nijinigs have always fought among themselves, it's nothing new. Thing is, the radioactive Niji lolcow and its hypocritical fans can't help themselves from producing a consistent stream of yabs, which resets the circus cooldown when things seemingly quiet down.

>> No.70633079

>>70632415
>the radioactive Niji lolcow
you sound like you don't shower often

>> No.70633153

>>70631180
The people who left are doing better than current livers.

>> No.70633835

>>70633153
But Kuro is doing roughly the same as when he left, and Matara is doing only a bit better. That's with twitch numbers too, so honestly Kuro is probably doing worse and Matara probably roughly the same. I wasn't confused about what the statement meant, more that it didn't make sense to start.

>> No.70634811

>>70633835
Matara is way better she was low 3view before. Numbers aside they are also much happier with management who actually cares.

>> No.70635323

>>70633835
Doing exactly the same as when you left means doing much better, because there's no longer the Niji revenue cut

>> No.70635365

>>70633835
Twitch bits are way better than YT superchats though. They get the full amount. Twitch takes their cut when you buy the bits. So even if they're even in terms of ccv and numbers, they are more than likely better off financially if they're getting similar gross numbers on superchats/bits.

>> No.70635381

>>70633835
Getting similar or better numbers while having non-shitty management and a better cut.

>> No.70635392

>>70633079
I'm more of a grower

>> No.70635691

>>70629159
isnt ike one of the good guys who got dragged into the black stream to substitute for luca?

>> No.70635823
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70635823

the consequences of their actions

>> No.70635998

>>70635823

>> No.70636207

>>70629865
>I saw someone say something
Kek. I can't.

>> No.70636353

>>70633835
They seem genuinely happier though

>> No.70636943

>>70629159
Millie is the omega-galaxy-brain behind the secret gc stream right? Im a niji tourist but seems to me like she's an actual fucking retard between that and her selen tweet. At least elira can sing.

>> No.70637194

>>70636353
bUt nUmBeR nOt Go Up

>> No.70637299
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70637299

>>70635823
>Nothing personal. Just doing business.

>> No.70637400

>>70629681
>>70635823

>> No.70637456

Rosemi isn’t graduating. She’s picked her side.

Petra on the other hand is more likely, but it’s hard to say.

>> No.70637467

>>70629159
>kuro
>success

>> No.70637654

>>70637299
Hopefully this retard wont blow his recent winnings on crypto and fall into tax debt...

>> No.70638024

>>70637456
>Rosemi
Not graduating
>Petra
Not graduating but pregnant

>> No.70639218

>>70638024
>Petra
She needs to graduate if she's pregnant. We don't need Enna sending her another video of a dying baby penguin.

>> No.70639655

>>70629159
Based on my knowledge of corporate I'm pretty sure that Canadian manager position was specifically made to hire an internal candidate but only posted due to legal purposes. So Elira, Enna, or Millie getting it would check out.

>> No.70640580

>>70629865
>Believe word from anon in 4chan...
Retard with iq minus...

>> No.70641011

>>70629159
I never had the chance of experiencing Q Anon cause that was too retarded, but this format does package the idea in a pill that is easier for me to swallow. Makes me realize that it's truly a soulless experience made for really dumb retards.
I really prefer rrats to this. At least some of those are hot, like Ollie's.

>> No.70641523

>>70635823
The sisters would be so mad if they knew how to read.

>> No.70643633

>>70641011
I have good news coomer.
Thats not a rrat its literally right there you can listen to it right now how the fuck does anyone debate thatpnkk2

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70643763

>>70629159
>Livers begins to wake up

>> No.70643793

>>70635823
HOLY FUCKING K I N O

>> No.70644036

>>70629159
> Livers begins to wake up and realize the success that Doki, MatarKan and Kuro had

Even Sayu is better than half (or more) of the NijiEN roster

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70644191

>70643763
That's...what the Vtubers at NijisanjiEN call themselves.

>> No.70644468

>>70644191
>begins to wake up
>begins

>> No.70644548
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70644548

>>70629681
Millie is a fucking yes man. She survives by attaching herself like a leech to the strong and popular, doing their bidding to carry favors with them. She doesn't have the mental fortitude to keep on going if she knows a decent amount of people out there seriously hate her guts. Her graduating wouldn't be surprising in the slightest.

>> No.70644915

>>70630257
It's not about the money, it's about the power.
Being a manager means being able to control a random new hire'a life.
It's the stuff of dream for Middle Management types. Like psychs20pxyos.

>> No.70645708

>70644468
Tch, fair enough. Apologies for implying that you were a retard.

>> No.70645913

>>70629865
woah really? I don't think people lie on the Internet, just as how Ron Watkins might be Q-anon but that besides the point

>> No.70646103
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70646103

Talking about something more substantial, any idea why Ruku’s ownership share is going straigh down? Don’t get me wrong, I know 40% is still a good chunk, but it was over 60% in the weeks prior.
Is he shorting his own title or something?

>> No.70646204

>>70635823
They will replaced with Elira and Luxiem right?

>> No.70646355

>>70630611
the only way she gains favor if she back stabs the clique. if she burns bridges and play victim and goes on the defense of doki and saya. this will be the final yab.

>> No.70646377

>>70646103
wait wheres bilibili?

>> No.70646383

>>70646204
Probably not. Offkai frankly is more to blame that False. He did start the fire by asking those rejected to DM him for info gathering, but Offkai went in panic more twice.
One dramatuber should not be all it takes. There is legitimate reason to suspect it was not a two week ago decision.

>> No.70646437

scarle literally said she would be there for at least two more years and was very happy with everyone including management

>> No.70646525

>>70633835
No 2% cut
Better manager
Actually get their play buttons
No japanese corpo shit
No 3 hour time to sign contracts


Geez I wonder anon.

>> No.70646538

>>70646383
I doubt the decision was made 2 weeks ago.
This is not Japan.

Btw what does they mean by today event and misunderstanding?
Is there anything else other than those False tweet about guest and vendor rejection?

>> No.70646667

>>70629865
It's sunken cost fallacy at this point.

>> No.70646913

>>70646437
there is no war in ba sing se

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70646992

>>70646103
If you look at the stock movements today, It was at risk of going below 3k and suddenly got spiked all the way back up to mid 3100s, Probably called in a favor to bail them out for the second time in a row

>> No.70647324

>>70646538
Dunno if you were quoting me and accidentally deleted something, but the page for OffKai was heavily WIP and the first thing they put in was the trio. Seems weird that you are working at a page and don’t edit such thing out while selling tickets.
As for False, he was baiting and clowing as other people was dismissing the news already, but Offkai immediately responded with a tweet denying the allegation…with spelling errors and not much clarity.
Everyone doubled down after that, any every other dramatuber BUT False jumped on it.

This is a prime example in “don’t answer to bait, you are gonna make it worse”rile of the internet.

>> No.70647511

>>70646992
That’s not gonna change tomorrow rankly, it’s only giving people more incentive to sell and recoup losses, especially if it starts dropping again.

I didn’t realize but this IS a sherehold right? There is nothing stopping Riku from shorting himself out of the company and golden parachute, right?

>> No.70647702

>>70647324
>don’t answer to bait, you are gonna make it worse
I guess no one learnt anything from NijiEN February drama.

>> No.70648441

>>70635823
kek

>> No.70648555

>>70629865
wasn't the niji spy Luca though?

>> No.70649307

>>70646437
I mean, of course, with the money she's bringing to the table, she's untouchable. No matter that rules she's breaking, the management will keep kissing her ass.
Doesn't mean that being between the rock of fat stack SC's and the hard place of negligent management, she isn't held hostage. Doesn't mean that the clique isn't harassing her, and who knows how that will end up if fucking ASTER of all people can send her into a panic attack. I imagine after she returned from her self-imposed exile after the Kurosanji comment incident, they fucking collectively GRILLED her on their Discord just like they did Selen after the MV (which, btw, was Selen's breaking point)

>> No.70652442

>>70646525
>No 3 hour time to sign contracts
Wait, is that real?

>> No.70652621

>>70652442
Zaion was given three hours to decide to either sign a non-disparagement/silencing contract and be given a "mutual" graduation or to not sign it and be given the shitflinging termination she ultimately ended up with.

>> No.70652660

>>70637467
He's on a fast track to pay off the debt he made in Niji. So yeah.

>> No.70652745

>>70649307
Honestly if stuff about JP going into maximum tardwrangle mode is true, I bet the clique was told to leave scarle alone lest they get thrown under the bus, If she really is their last good money maker, They can't afford to have the clique chase her off like selen, I imagine the only people being grilled were elira and co for how retarded they were (assuming the gurrat is real)

>> No.70652839

>>70647511
I don't know how it works in japan, But with honor systems and shit, And the possibility of the other shareholders having friends in high places, Yacht boy may be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life if he thinks he can pull a bobby kotick

>> No.70652886

>>70633835
>But Kuro is doing roughly the same as when he left, and Matara is doing only a bit better.
Ok Anon, basic word problem here. See if you can figure it out.
Person A works for company N and gets paid %2 of the wealth they generate for the company.
Person A then gets a job at company V. They generate the same wealth for company V that they did for company N, but company V let's them keep %50 instead of %2.
At which company is person A making more money at?

>> No.70652892

>>70629159
i want to believe because its the funniest outcome
https://files.catbox.moe/9qhexb.mp4

>> No.70652996

>>70652892
KEK

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>>70629681
We said that about Selen

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>>70633153
Fucking SAYU is doing better than their current organs, despite their best efforts. Thank god.

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>>70629159
I just hope that now no one worth their hide will apply to Niji all the options they'll have left are desperate 2view dramawhores, nijisisters and the bottom of the barrel of Elira's clique. That way the branch collapses faster and I get to laugh harder.

>> No.70653345

>>70629159
>> Elira, Vox, Ike and Enna are willing to graduate ONLY IF they get that management position
kEK

>> No.70653915

>>70630611
applying in vshojo

>> No.70654064

>>70629681
Good. She lies in the bed of her own making

>> No.70654200

>>70629159
They better be fixing shit. Serious money is on the line.
Or don't. I find the incompetence morbidly fascinating.

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70656161

>>70635823
Live nijisister reaction

>> No.70656330

>>70652892
I'm crying
Whoever made this, I love you

>> No.70656425

>>70629865
OP is bait, but you just went full metal retard.

>> No.70656510

>>70629159
What about Finana?

>> No.70656517

>>70656161
They have shit oshis, they'll get over it it's neglible

>> No.70657305

>>70644036
With more loyal (and paying) viewers too, I'm pretty sure even her YouTube income which to her is anafterthought is greater than half of the Nijis per stream

>> No.70658817

>>70653184
kek

>> No.70658940

>>70629159
> Livers begins to wake up and realize the success that Doki, MatarKan and Kuro had
Roach and Kuro had success?

>> No.70659004

>>70658940
Yeah, Kuro fixed his tax and money problems that Nijisanji left him with and Matara's got double the viewership that she did at Niji plus seems to be much happier now.

>> No.70659110
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>The rrats…they whisper…of a mega collab in early march…
If Elira makes a special apparence, leaker isreal. If not, she may be a goner.

>> No.70659301

>>70659110
>shu, oliver, and meloco are there so you can't even say it's because she's billingual
Yeah, she's gone.
Didn't the nun retire or something?

>> No.70659415

>>70653100
Nobody did. If you said that you are retarded. There were multiple warnings and instances of Selen being punished by Niji and then forced to read scripted statements

>> No.70659507
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70659507

>>70659415
No, we called her a bootlicker because she kept reading those statements instead of quitting. She'd get beaten down over, and over, and over again by management and like a battered wife she'd keep coming back anyways.

>> No.70659612
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70659612

>>70659110
I feel bad for the JP livers that'll have to put up with the EN liver's mental illness.

>> No.70659744

>>70646437
>He unironically believes hostages with guns to their heads are telling the truth when they say they're safe.

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70659871

>>70646437
Yeah? In September Selen had a whole bunch of goals for 2024 that she wanted to achieve.

>> No.70660028

>>70656161
>i don't care if my oshi pushed someone to suicide, you are a bad person for pointing it out!

>> No.70660030

>>70659507
No wonder she tried to **** herself twice. There's only so much abuse you can take before everntually crumbling.

Good thing she had her friends, family and fans to help her recover. She came back stronger thanks to all the support she got.

>> No.70660075

>>70646103
He was at 40% something for a long time anon.

>> No.70660485

>>70659871
>FRIENDS
I can't tell if Pomu's being sarcastic or not...

>> No.70660533

>>70646437
is that like how Luca said there won't be any more graduations from nijien for awhile?

>> No.70660586

God I can’t believe anyone brought the “family corpo” mentality even for a second. It’s the first and buggest red flag of any toxic workplace.

>> No.70660668

>>70646437
Give them a pass and Scarle will be the next victim. It matches the patten:
>More popular than others
>Full of spirit
>Doesn’t want to go trough the others shit

Sounds extremely familiar.

>> No.70660924

>>70656161
Perhaps they shouldn't have cooked up fucking artist hitlists on their site if they didn't want to create an unfriendly atmosphere.

>> No.70661061

>>70652621
She chose right.

>> No.70663783

>>70629159
none of this is true

>> No.70664499

>>70663783
I mean that was obvious. The organs are way too fucking mindbroke to ever consider that Niji is not god's gift to this earth.

>> No.70664778

>>70629681
>Pomu ain't goin anywhere lol

>> No.70664936

>>70664499
I think those who want to leave are already on the queue, but everybody else is hust gonna stick because they are at the point they need the corpo, which is a shame when it will implode next unavoidable scandal because they don’t change.

>> No.70667533

>>70629159
thanks for your hard work

>> No.70669252

>>70652892
MY SIDES

>> No.70669335

>>70659110
I wonder if they are being forced into this.

>> No.70669898

>>70652892
>https://files.catbox.moe/9qhexb.mp4

KEK

>> No.70670770

>>70629865
>A couple weeks ago I saw someone say
Why don't you just directly say 'Niji spy is Q anon for vtubers and you guys are retarded'? Think for yourself.

>> No.70674990

>>70629159

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>>70629159
People on this board are so stupid.

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70675326

>>70629865
>>70670770

>>69691185

>> No.70675413

>>70659871
Getting real chinese communist struggle session vibes from that pic.
Happy for everyone who escaped that shithole lmao

>> No.70675431

>>70659110
>the new PR stunt is to shield the clique using the non-clique organs in every collab
Can't say if it will work.

>> No.70675656

>>70646437
Was this before or after management forced her to stream with a sexpest and it upset her enough to cry about it afterwards?

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>>70629569
>>70633153
You only remembered the ones that inclined and not the ones that retired or crashed. Lulu's roommate is doing 1/3 of what Lulu did.

>> No.70675872

>>70675792
she's doing better because she can stream whenever she wants, retard

>> No.70675951

>>70656161
Karma never fucking fails to deliver. If they weren't as disgusting and malicious, none of this would have happened

>> No.70676287

>>70659004
>tax and money problems that Nijisanji left him with
I was curious about this and when I was pointed to a stream where he talked about it, he fucking built a house and thought he could get tax breaks from it because his mom told him so. The only thing you could blame Nijisanji for is them not telling him he has to put some money aside for UK taxes? Literally OnlyFans tier of dumb. If you're making so much money that you have 350k in taxes you hire your own accountant that works in your country.

>> No.70676475

>>70659004
No he didn't. He still needs to pay that shit off.

>> No.70676480

>>70659004
>Yeah, Kuro fixed his tax and money problems that Nijisanji left him with and Matara's got double the viewership that she did at Niji plus seems to be much happier now.
There are numerous clues like this that showed niggersanji true colors and the NDF always keep silent.
The "they're not evil just incompentents" fail flat when you compile all the shit they did to past livers.

>> No.70676540

>>70676480
Kuro is the only one with tax troubles and happens to be retarded. I think we can call it incompetence here.

>> No.70676611

>>70676480
Here's my hot and new unique opinion. Life outside of Nijisanji is possible, Nijisanji management is bad and Anycolor is a bad company. Get this, this is my favourite part, doki is full of shit and all of this is a big calculated payout for her.

>> No.70676612

>>70629159
>>We are still looking for a manager to handle this bs
They should be doing this since the Niji KR incident. I'm not even sure if they are really doing it or just lips service.

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70676684

>>70659871
HE WAS ALWAYS TRYING TO WARN US

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>NDF hours
Time to work then
>>70676540
He did receive help with his taxes but not from niggersanji, says a lot about your black corpo.
>>70676611
Glad we agree kurosanji is shit and it's getting what it deserves.

>> No.70677181

>>70659110
Elira is about to get the Coco treatment, isn't she?

>> No.70677280

>>70676611
If so, why does doki's success make you seethe?
Her success is at the expense of a shitty company. It is something to be celebrated.

>> No.70677500

>>70676611
You were half way there. Why hate on Doki when she did nothing wrong on her way out? NijiEN killed their reputation as a boost to Doki if you wanted to mental gymnastics how great of a company it is lol

>> No.70677597

>>70656161
Why is the date in Japanese?

>> No.70677771

>>70677280
>>70677500
I don't trust people who cry and then make money hand over fist. It just makes me suspicious. No anger on my part, just makes one wonder.

>> No.70677822

>>70659871
She can still achieve those goals. The only thing that's changed is that she's taken off the purple wig and the "Hello my name is ___" sticker.
She wants one million subscribers by the end of CY2024. Let's do this.

>> No.70677873

>>70677822
>subscribing to dookie
Ewww...

>> No.70678040

>>70677597
Doxx site is Japanese website

>> No.70678137

>>70677771

it's pretty fucking retarded to think that people can't go through some shit and come out the other side better then ever despite the obvious trauma.

like, "*oh? you're traumatized and poor? stay traumatized and poor*". that's pretty fucking retarded from you bro.

>> No.70678386

>>70630611
Wasn't Lyrica actually doing decently well? Not that she'd be able to escape the toxicity and stigma she's built around herself.

>> No.70678407

>>70676540
Yeah, fuck Nijisanji and all, but the tax thing was all on Kuro. It would have been smart for Niji to loan him some money or something since he was their top liver, but they weren't morally obligated to do it.

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70678423

>>70630611
>What she gonna do?
Go to her friend.

>> No.70678493

>>70630611
>>70678386
She had 100k subs, which usually translates to a mid 3view. Dunno how it actually shook out.

>> No.70678641

>>70660668
The difference is that Scarle's projects are more low-scale and solo in design. She's been sticking to herself before and after this scandal, and I don't see that changing. She might have been excluded from that Final Fantasy NijiEN Guild, or likely never wanted to be a part of it in the first place.

>> No.70678720
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>>70660668
Not only does it match the pattern, but they've already tried to follow the pattern to its conclusion. They "stealth" suspended her for 30+ days pending termination for liking the "Kurosanji" comment; or at least they wanted to, but the fan backlash was too severe and too immediate for them to get away with it, so they reinstated her after less than one day.
They can't fire her, suspend her, or otherwise punish her, at any point moving forward, unless she does something which would get her bonked by corporate if she were in Hololive or any other non-shit vtuber agency. They know it, she knows it, the fans know it, everyone knows it. And as much as management hates it, she's safe for the rest of her time in Niji EN* unless she breaks NDA or commits a major felony - and even breaking NDA might not be enough for them to legally fire her, since Niji EN has already proven that they view non-disclosure agreements as optional non-disclosure suggestions.

*I specified "her time in Niji EN" rather than "her time in Nijisanji" since she'll probably get culled from the company once the merger happens, along with at least a dozen others. The merger will happen this year, and may happen as soon as the end of next week.

>> No.70678808

>>70633835
Kuro doing the the same means he gets more supachat cut. Simple as.

>> No.70678949

>>70678137
>some shit
>discord calls, a shitty boss saying "no" and one awkward off collab
Real tough times. I find it disgusting that someone who put in so much work. Work that was rewarded with so much adoration and monetary from fans decided to just fucking wallow in misery, that is if we even believe that the "attempt" was genuine and not a complete sham.

>> No.70679144

>>70678949

i get the feeling you have never worked, never been overworked, and never actually been employed

>> No.70679173

>>70678949
You're starting to spew the same poverty-stricken ESL talking points that Nijisisters do, "neutral" anon.

>> No.70679175

>>70677771
I can agree with your thinking but the thing is, Doki didn't say shit, it was Niji error and so why would she give that shit show of a company any face with the way they have been treating her? Not even rrats could force a scenario where a company self reports. She also didn't lie. She was hospitalised and evidence shows thr company skin walked her.

>> No.70679248

>>70678949
Nahh this is where you are full of it. NijiEN reacted the way they did because an incident occured. Use basic logic.

>> No.70679388

>>70679144
>implying playing fps games or drawing beedrill a hundred times on stream is a job
>overwork in a profession with flexible working hours
Are you trying to tell me that her trying to rank up in Apex is labor?

>> No.70679651

>>70679388

>flexible working hours

this is Niji we're talking about, they gave only 2%. they kept the play buttons. stop fucking lying

Niji is literally always standing behind their talents with slave whips.

also no, vtubers (especially those under agency) cannot just "move their schedule" on short notice without a shitton of preparation and schedule fuckery.

>> No.70680413

>>70630998
Pomu graduating already was the death knell. She was the one most passionate about Nijisanji and idolhood and keeping up the spirits of the branch. Her and Selen made huge efforts to unite the branch and put out projects and competitions and collabs with as many chuubas as they could. With the two of them gone, it's unironically over. There's no more unifying element other than words from liars.
Nina leaving was the writing on the wall. When a top talent who is beloved up and graduates that, that should have been seventh horn in Niji HQ to turn the ship around and start really incentivizing their people to stick around.

>> No.70680873

>>70633835
matara never got constant 3 to 6k streams before she was a 3 view in niji also being now invited far more on collabs in and outside the company

>> No.70680958

>>70679651
>sitting on your ass getting paid to play videogames is le slavery
This is what westoids actually believe. Entitled shitstains.

>> No.70680968

>>70680873
Yeah but VShojo's full. No stragglers.

>> No.70682355

>>70679388
>>70680958

there's a difference between playing your favorite game onstream for two hours to no one/your friends after you do your homework vs. scheduling, planning, scripting, communicating, recording, and promoting multiple projects in addition to those two hours onstream that viewers see.

oh yeah, and hoping your numbers do well enough/please management enough so that you can roughly estimate whether your once a month paycheck will cover all your living expenses + current/future project expenditures.

the environment is a drain mentally and monetarily, and it's no wonder that some talents have figured out what the bare minimum is that they need to do, in order to minimize their stress but still make enough to be comfortable. and thus be mediocre

having ambition and trying to act on ideas shouldn't make you take both monetary and mental damage

>> No.70682488

>>70634811
She bounced between high 3view and like 1400 but she's absolutely doing better now than that.

>> No.70682857

>>70682355
So? It's still an easy ass 'job'. They're not even forced to stream. They can constantly go on as many breaks as they like. I'm not going to feel sorry for entitled westurd clowns like Mysta just because he wasn't getting a huge cut merch. He still made a shitton of money there. He was just retarded with it like Doki.

>> No.70683186

>>70682857
this tells me two things: 1) you've never seriously worked in content creation; and 2) you've never worked in a toxic corporate environment

most of them have more two braincells. Mysta was just fucking stupid

>> No.70683652

>>70680413
The fact that they couldn't get her to stay and put her in a holding pattern even though she decided to leave since last July (although that is mostly Nijisanji's fault to align with contract non-renewal to put her in a holding pattern) and she had half a year to change her mind makes it all the more mind-boggling why Nijisanji didn't try harder to retain her especially when she was one of the few people that did nothing wrong in their eyes and was the first member of the current EN branch. Unless they actually believed in the fact that their talents are negligible, no one sane would've not tried their damn hardest to retain her.

>> No.70684087

>>70670770
What are you ESL? What's so hard to understand about the statement. Persona A brings up the comparison, Person B agrees with it and restates it elsewhere. Nigga are you retarded

>> No.70685153

>>70629159
>>70629159
Being in NijiEN is part of the process. Or do you think those who left would have that viewership without joining going by their PL? Just join. Get exposure. Leave. Farm drama. Gain views.

>> No.70686032

>>70653915
They care about numbers anon
Millie will be a low 2vew if she get out of niji

>> No.70687013

>>70686032
Ehh, she wasn't even a 2view as indie if I remember right. She honestly was pretty successful as indie as far as things go. Not Millie successful but she had a solid following and viewership. She was the only one I knew about before joining Niji (other than Mint)

>> No.70687151

>>70687013
only reason she was coz she leeched off holo id the entire time now that people exposed and non kindred flips hate her shes practically done

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>>70659110
>No Scarle
Girl really stays out of that shit.

>> No.70689103

>>70629159
ok

>> No.70690790

>>70659110
>no Rose
>no Scarle
They are next, aren't they?

>> No.70690913

>>70646355
if millie do that, i'll go to Manila and kill atleast 10 men on her honor.

>> No.70690923
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>>70659871
Why is he such an asshole?

>> No.70691048

>>70659871
The fact that Selen was never in the secret discord and thus has absolutely 0 history in any of these shitty discord leaks/posts says wonders about her character.

>> No.70691303

>>70630611
she has no future beign an indie, she'd be ocstratriced and never take off. People would actively avoid her or keep her at an arm's lenght. Her only chance for redemption would be backstabbing the clique and airing the dirty laundry of them. That way, there'd be a SMALL chance for her to make amends and start from zero again. The thing is that she's so in bed with the clique that the moment it happens, the clique will also reveal shit about her too and throw her under the bus to undermine her further.

>> No.70691507

>>70690913
Join the army and you can kill people for money in the muslim province.

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70691664

>>70652892
KEK

>> No.70691761

>>70690923
She intentionally sabotaged his career by jumping into a voice call with him while he was doing one of his blowjob asmr streams for his fans. The fallout cost him over half his income because chinksisters threw a fit over it.

>> No.70692082

>>70691761
Big if true

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>>70676684

>> No.70692446

>>70692082
It's 100% true. It was on her stream POV, it was basically a prank call lmao.

>> No.70692667

>>70629159
>Millie graduation
larps used to be believable

>> No.70697793

>>70629681
This is believable

>> No.70700564

>>70629569
yeah

>> No.70700868

>>70645708
Not that anon, but you did good for apologizing

>> No.70701146

>>70630611
She can just go full pagpag streamer. She can avoid NA antis hours and start fresh with a new audience.

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