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New viewers who found her through the drama, did you stay? For those who left, what didn't you like?

Old Dragoons and Barknights, how are we feeling now with the current state of things?

>> No.70573838

She's still Selen and she's still funny.
Also don't ask for the opinions of Barkknights as there was only like 40.

>> No.70574205

>>70573359
>never watched her in niji
>tuned in due to drama
>noped out after
would watch her again if she joins a certain company (she wont)

>> No.70574269

>>70573359
She’s funny, she’s sweet. I watch every stream.

>> No.70574335

>>70573359
I always liked her but not the games she played
with the new freedom she has, she's done a lot of fun stuff already

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>>70573359
She seems pretty entertaining from what I've seen of her. Unfortunately she streams at the same time as Henya, and I sometimes forget she's streaming because she doesn't usually stream on Twitch.

>> No.70574514

>>70573359
Love her laugh and trolling antics. Decently funny solo streamer, but she shines in collabs, especially goofy ones where they just fuck around, like with TSB or Filian

>> No.70574645 [DELETED] 

>>70574205
>would watch her again if she joins a certain company (she wont)
honestly amazing that people on this board actually think and act this way without being paid for it. like, there's no rational reason to be this much of a bootlicker, yet here we are

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>>70573359
I literally do not fucking care about Doki

I fucking do not care about her at all

>> No.70574697

>>70573359
Her voice doesn't match her model

>> No.70574783

>>70573359
I saw some clips of her and some streams when she collabed with Mumei and then later again with TSB so she was on my radar. A lot of streamers I watch regularly were busy with other things during December so I figured I'd check out that Selen person.
But everything changed when the Fire Nation attacked.
So anyway, I'll keep watching Dokibird. If shit hadn't gone down they way it did I might be subscribed to Selen Tatsuki of Nijisanji now.

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>> No.70574937

>>70573359
I always found her personality a bit abrasive for my tastes and her laugh kind of annoys me (sorry...). I only watched her a little bit in niji and I only watched her a little bit after that mostly because I was curious if she'd change much.
I don't think I'll really watch her that often going forward but I respect the effort she puts in to make things happen for both herself and her fans and I'm glad she seems to be happier now

>> No.70575415

>>70573359
Still entertaining, still full of energy. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to watch her live because her streams are way too early for me.

>> No.70575551

>>70573359
I love watching her when I can, but the time just doesn't line up. She either streams at 4 am for me or streams during my office hours, where she's too energetic, bubbly, and distracting to pull up in another tab. It's really unfortunate. Glad she's remained the same laughing bird all throughout.

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>>70573359
>Old Dragoons and Barknights, how are we feeling now with the current state of things?
member's garfield kart and suck up have been the best streams so far, but there's been a lot of great ones. there's a lot of reasons to be very optimistic right now as a dragoon

>> No.70575931

>>70573359
There's a reason why she was popular in niji even back when everything was normal and there was no drama.

>> No.70575974

>>70573359
shes pretty solid, but plays few games i like, so don't watch her often, but shes still on the list of those i watch.

>> No.70576252

>>70575974
On the same boat as you
she's pretty solid and entertaining, don't like FPS, but will chime in when she plays my kind of game

>> No.70576271

>Somehow made cock-tease Shylily fun to watch
>Gamed the system and got TSB on Helldivers II
>Made more shekels in a day selling literal paper than most streamers in general hope to make in a year
and best of all
>Loves Uto and Dtto

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One of the most enjoyable chuubas out there. Watched her a lot pre-Zaion, but had to drop her because my conscience wouldn't let me continue supporting her shithole of a company even through a view. Felt more guilty and pity the more I heard how much her nigger management shafted her from the outfit contest and hosting tournaments.
Back to watching her again now that she's out. I'm glad she's finally off her chains, but it's a shame what had to happen beforehand.

>> No.70576576

>>70573359
I like her but not enough to ruin my sleep to catch her live. Sometimes i'll watch a vod if she played something or with someone i care about

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>>70573359
I hope she'll collab with this chuuba one day

>> No.70576620

>>70573359
Her dumbass laugh is infectious and I can see why people like her, but she's not a "must watch" for me. NijiEN is truly insane to fuck with her like they did.

>> No.70576649

>how are we feeling now with the current state of things?
Feeling great, the only OG left to watch, after Pomu decided to shitpost on xitter instead of streaming, the rest of niji sabotaged themselves, Gura fucked off till summer after promoting gurarium.

>> No.70576675

>>70573359
holofag here. i don't really watch her. i subbed out of pity. i remain subbed out of respect.

she is genuinely a good content creator, but her personality is not my taste. nothing really objectionable though (only slight with the china ties). mostly just preferences. compared to some holo that i outright reject since i don't like their personality despite being a holo fan.

it's like she's cliantro. not my taste, but i respect it. the holomems i referenced above would be like poison. it's not just a matter of taste. something is fundamentally objectionable about them.

>> No.70576795

>>70573359
Apax

>> No.70576831

>>70574645
I'm not a bootlicker, Cover can tongue my anus and i will never defend the billion dollar corpo. I just have zero interest in vtubers that are not hololive.

>> No.70576911

>>70576831
I find it difficult to believe you've actually tried watching many vtubers outside hololive.

>> No.70577037 [DELETED] 

>>70576831
But then, why would being in hololive change your opinion on a vtuber you already decided isn't your cup of tea? Only a total brandfag would change their opinion based on who the company gets a big cut of the profit from.

>> No.70577347

>>70573359
I'd been following her extremely infrequently ever since her post debut StarCraft stream, since I wanted to drop a UEDeez nuts in chat as soon as it came up in brood war, then leave without explanation.
Now that she's Doki I decided to actually watch her instead of just futilely checking for a brood war stream. And yeah, she's actually pretty entertaining. Her sonic collections stream was amazing.
And after that charity stream goal was reached? I've never been more ready.

>> No.70577490

>>70573359
>New viewers who found her through the drama, did you stay?
I found her idle talk during the return stream enjoyable
>For those who left, what didn't you like?
I'm still listening to her zatsu VODs, but I stopped watching her gaming streams because, in my humble opinion, her game commentary isn't as good

>> No.70577608

I like her laugh. It came off as nervousness to me at first, but after watching her for a while I can tell she's just very bubbly and amused by everything going on around her.

>> No.70577655

I just wanna know why her mouth is sideways

>> No.70578191

she's nice but plays lots of competitive games and is really high energy which wears on me after a while, i tend to prefer more comfy chill streams. still i'm glad she's doing well and that dragoons can continue to enjoy her streams

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>>70573359
Still wonderful, still a blast. I just don't have much time for her these days unfortunately.

>> No.70578523

>>70576831
I can't believe people bite bait like this.

>> No.70578582

>>70573359
I don't have anything against her, and I did want to support her, but it seems like she's already getting overwhelming support from everywhere anyway so I'm back to just watching my oshi. She did collab with my oshi a few times as Selen, though, and they were pretty close.

>> No.70580620

>>70573359
I'm a long time Dragoon. We're SO BACK
She's an absolute sweetheart and a workaholic.
>Old Dragoons and Barknights, how are we feeling now with the current state of things?
Happiness, because she's alive.
Thankful for her family and friends.
Many more fun years ahead of us Dragoons.

>> No.70581110

>>70573359
>New viewers who found her through the drama, did you stay?
I don't watch her all the time, but yes, I did stay, she's hilarious.
>>70574486
>and I sometimes forget she's streaming because she doesn't usually stream on Twitch.
another Henyafag here, for me it's funny because Henya's the only person I watch on twitch (so no account and stuff) yet she still has priority over all the yt chuubas that I follow but are live at the same time as her.

>> No.70582565

>>70578523
It's the same thing with the "sisters" posting immediately in any Doki thread. They're just trying to farm (You)'s.

>> No.70584319

>>70573359
She's still selen and now she's much, much better because she won't cry at how management killed her latest project again. It was depressing as fuck. I don't think she ever cried in members streams but early on she definitely vented a lot.

>> No.70585228

>>70573359
the second coming of christ

>> No.70585394

>>70581110
>henya
>doki
>biboo
That timeslot is stacked

>> No.70585695

I watched one or two streams before i gave up.

First, most of the time she streams when i am asleep.
Now for the main point.
I don't watch vtubers or other forms of 'streamers', but i realized that this form of entertainment is lazy.

Screaming "What do you mean??" every few minutes and laughing for no reason to fill up the quietness is one version of it, but it's just not for me.

My problem in general with streamers is that they are lazy and uninspired.
They never practice comedic timing and acting in order to understand the essence of entertainment.

In case of vtubers it becomes even worse. They coast on the fact that they have cute voices and become successful despite their lack of passion.

Can you honestly say with confidence that any of the vtubers (that 90%+ of their audience is from the opposite gender) can ever be successful in the real world?

For now, i will continue to lurk for drama.

>> No.70585775

>>70573359
was lukewarm to her PL and I still am. But will still sieg to her

>> No.70585796

>>70574697
Agreed. She should get a fat model to match her voice

>> No.70585814

>>70585695
All things considered, I find it funny you said “Vtubers coast on having cute voices” when this thread is about one of the VTubers that arguably doesn’t rely on it at all.

At least you’ve learned Vtuber stuff isn’t for you ig

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>>70585695
>I don't watch vtubers
Opinion discarded.

>> No.70586031

>>70585394
Sayu, too, sometimes.
>>70585695
so you have no sense of humor, got it. don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

>> No.70586037

>>70576579
Cute, but not dragon cute.

>> No.70586168

>>70574645
It's irrational but not surprising. If you ever browsed /v/ you've seen the tribalism before.

>> No.70586312

>>70573359
I watched TSB and mumei/ame/selen collabs before, Hated niji, Never watched her fulltime, I am a ruffian, But my oshis are on break rn so while they are gone i'm watching doki, after they come back, I'm going back to FWMC but i wish doki the best

>> No.70586329

>>70586168
It's just sunk cost. Getting to know a different corpo's talents and associated memes takes time and effort. It's much easier to get to know a new talent being integrated into a corpo that you already know. It's network effects, same reason why people still use twitter even though better alternatives exist now.

>> No.70586484

>>70576831
You're bootlicking.

>> No.70586684

>>70576831
Sister please

>> No.70586711

>>70576579
Should've bid to get your 2view a collab anon.

>> No.70586745

>>70573359
She's really cute. Unfortunately, I straight up don't have any more time in the day to watch more chuubas.

>> No.70586831

>>70573359
I'm glad she's out of that dogshit company.

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>>70573359
I started watching Doki right after she debuted in that black company. I've always liked people with skill at video games, and her skill at Apex was better than most. I liked her laugh, I liked that she's got good chemistry with a lot of her collab choices, and I especially liked how she didn't join in the chorus of "Nijisanji family" and the secret gc stream. Casting aside her bully dragon persona becoming too much sometimes, I feel like she's professional with the people she deals with. She avoided mentions and topics that might look bad on her relatively more than other vtubers, especially in that black company where doubling down on bad takes was tradition.
I'm glad she kept most of her personality intact till now; so all the things I liked about her still applies; but I was stressed out when I found out about the whole suicide thing. I didn't know shit was that bad since I've been away from the black company entirely for all of 2023. She's a valuable chuuba to the EOP front of the industry. Here's a relatively competent gamer that can entertain; speak English; network; take care of her own commissions; puts in more effort than her former coworkers; and just... converse with others.
And they almost took that from us... I'm happy she's indie. Hope she stays indie for her own good. Perhaps she can't compete in dancing and singing, but Doki is a good EN chuuba who understands the essence of being a chuuba more than some others.

>> No.70589656

>Has only streamed 3 times since returning
I haven't formed a opinion, because she never streams

>> No.70589703

>>70589656
Uhh…what? Are we talking of the same person?

>> No.70589796

>>70585695
>I don't watch vtubers or other forms of 'streamers', but i realized that this form of entertainment is lazy.
Why are you on this board again?

>> No.70589979

>>70589796
She's raiding, duh. Stop feeding them.

>> No.70590102

>>70573359
No, her voice is too grating..

>> No.70590449

>>70585861
>>70586031
>>70589796
>gives criticism from an unbiased perspective
>somehow invalid
Lmao, it's like capeshit viewers getting mad that martin scorsese thinks their brand of movies aren't even passable cinema. Guy's 100% right and I even like Doki.

>> No.70591643

>>70573838
funny.. kek

>> No.70591736

I liked her in the collab with mumei that one time, she was a bit loud though. I never would've imagined she would be the one to bring down nijisanji, thank fuck it didn't cost her her life

>> No.70592155

>>70589703
https://twitchtracker.com/dokibird

>> No.70592229

>>70592155
she streams on youtube you turbo Gaylord

>> No.70592278

>>70573359
She is a turd

>> No.70592475

>>70573359
>For those who left, what didn't you like?
I've never watched a Niji girl live and I've only ever seen Selen in clips. As far as Doki goes, I'm not really into the games she plays. Apex? Don't like it. Capeshit? Don't like it. Male collabs? Wont watch them. Her Suck it Up and Wolf Quest streams were fun tho.
I don't dislike her, but she's certainly not my first pick. Like if Fauna or Runie is streaming, I'll watch them before I watch Dokibird

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>>70576675
she's hk
>>70577655
scuffed model from 2021. take these broken wings and learn to fly again, learn to live so free
>>70573359
new viewer here. i'm not hardcore into vtubers but think you could say i stayed. i feel comfortable watching streams now, as opposed to holoen where i failed to stick to a single oshi and still felt like a forever tourist. no streams, only side content, oh the horror: clips, and fanart. that was around new year 2023 but i'd seen things unravel first hand before, from kizuna ai that i thought without my japanese reps was a literal ai, to fbk scatman edits, yet i had no idea what was happening up until around coco graduation. didn't watch anything on niji's side and had no clue about doki but heard of selen. so yea, doker got me deeper into the rabbit hole than ever before. i also picked sayu on the side during this whole thing.
t. iosstard (if anyone concerned cares for this post)

>> No.70593670

>>70590449
your samefagging is bad and you should feel bad.

>> No.70594064

>>70573359
She's entertaining but I fucking hate Apex and she plays it like a religion

>> No.70594202

>>70594064
She might not play it as often. It was her "comfort game". With her no longer at mental breaking point constantly from her workplace, she might not need to constantly play it to prevent herself from snapping.

>> No.70594288

>>70594202
Thank God. I will watch her if she does other stuff. I love her laugh, dunno how she can keep laughing the entire time.

>> No.70594510

>>70573359
I just started watching a bit after the drarma, during her Batman Arkham streams. I fell in love immediately; I am pretty sure i'm gonna stay, I looked at the games she played as Stelen and so many in that archive that I would have LOVED to watch while live, Destiny, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock etc. I only wish the best for Doki at this point in her life

>> No.70594737

>>70573359
She's the same as always. Loud, obnoxious, stupid and nothing of interest to talk about. Mediocre at games at best. Her laugh makes me want to put a muzzle on her forever. How anyone unironically finds her entertaining is beyond me, she's like Kiara without the heart and charm to at least make you root for her success.

>> No.70594800

>>70594288
because its fake, she's just braying like a donkey every 5 seconds to fill dead air because she doesn't have anything to say

>> No.70594879

>>70574817
stop objectifying chuubas

>> No.70594900

>>70573359
I liked her bit generally avoided nijiEN because I had a gut feeling the company wasn't up and up. I'm enjoying watching her guilt-free now and I hope more of the good NijiEN's strike out on their own too.

>> No.70595043

As a ruffian, I got the impression she's a very nice girl who loves her fans a lot.

>> No.70596469

Boring zoomer before boring zoomer now

>> No.70596643

>>70590449
>unbiased.
You are literally 39IQ Daphne " I didn't see anything and read anything about this but I have an opinion so it's right ".
Read the board name newfag.

>> No.70596749

>>70594064
She literally spoke of many projects in mind, so much that her manager had to rein her in. She still plays it but I'm happy she can actually play for fun rather than "that's why you are here don't have ideas" corpo mandate.

>> No.70596792

>>70573359
The good:
>cute smug
>laugh is like ambrosia and she spews it like a full powered pressure hose. things men would kill and die for, she gives it away for free

The bad:
>is from an inferior, evil species (chinknese) and is clearly proud of her tainted heritage
>apex apex apex apex

>> No.70597010

>>70576271
>>Gamed the system and got TSB on Helldivers II
that's more credito to altare and axel desu, this is not the first time they went PL to play a game holo didn't have perms at the time(it was lethal company)

>> No.70597087

>>70573359
She is feeling better, has obviously recovered from the pain and stress. It is a good place to be. But she is kinda swamped from getting everything set up and starting her new routine. Will take some adjustment for sure.

>> No.70597115

>>70585695
I definitely appreciate spontaneous unscripted and incidental humor more than the kind that requires "practiced comedic timing".

>> No.70597220

>>70590449
Dragoons were always a sensitive bunch, but also some of the most obnoxious shittalkers on this board. I'm not surprised that post got the reaction it did. Makes sense she's their oshi lol

>> No.70597300

>>70573359
She's alright, I sometimes watch her streams if I'm not sleeping (her schedule is terrible for EU timezones). She's unhinged enough to be entertaining, and there's no corpo forcing her to be PG-13 behind her, a solid chuuba overall.

>> No.70597351

>>70596792
I give her a pass on the Chinese part since she's not a mainlander. She's from Hong Kong and speaks Cantonese. Two things mainlanders despise.

>> No.70597438

>>70573359
From what I can tell, she is in a really good place now. I watched her on and off for a long time, and she is clearly surrounded by good support now. Started watching chuubas because I like streamers, because I like watching different people do their thing. She is funny, and the laugh really is infectious. Wish her well.

>> No.70597591

>>70573359
Found her through the drama, clearly a gem I overlooked. Subscribed and will keep up with her, as much as one can with all this entertainment to pick from !

>> No.70597820

>>70597220
I love it. Once Niggersanji is dead and buried, they're gonna get ripped apart. They've honestly convinced themselves that they're anything but an attack vector lmao

>> No.70598059

>>70573359
Cute, vibe with her humor, great laugh, her fans are not a bunch of assholes. Honestly pretty good for an indie, I can see why she has success. Subscribed and will tune in for her streams to see more.

>> No.70598157

>>70573359
Don't care, she's making Niji burn

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>>70573359
She was pretty good as Selen, but not someone I'd watch regularly, outside of collabs, as watching competitive FPS isn't my cup of tea, prefer something with intense coop or a story.

However, the collabs with Pomu are all some of the funniest, most heart warming shit I've seen in my whole life. Niji would have lost me had they both simply graduated peaceably, but given that they threatened the lives of all their talents in the process, now I'm ready to crusade to end them, and can't watch any of them anymore until they safely get out of there, for their own good. The longer that company goes on as is, putting talents on the firing line, the more likely we're going to have the sort of yab that ends the industry, be it a successful suicide or a murder.

At least I can still watch the clips without giving views to those monsters:
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk
https://youtu.be/r9y-d8FhIA4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBaT52b6ObU

Or just watch the archives:
https://archive.ragtag.moe/channel/UCV1xUwfM2v2oBtT3JNvic3w

>> No.70598447

>>70573359
She's more like a bro you play video game with.

>> No.70598508

>>70598163
Good take. As a Pomudachi (always will be), I always loved these two together. Never did watch Selen much, but I never disliked her either. Now I am camping Pomu's PL and remembering better days.

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>>70573359
I like her but is not like I can watch every single stream, I got other stuff to do and other chuubas to watch

>> No.70600851

>>70597351
Hong Kong is the better part of China, now lost to CCP bugs. They were making amazing movies back in the 90s and 80s

>> No.70600941

>>70600851
Modern hong kong only exists because of the British empire. It was just a barren fucking rock before the brits came.

>> No.70601226

>>70573359
Depends on the stream. Some content is fun but it's not all for me. She also laughs a bit much which makes it look more like a nervous tic to fill otherwise dead air. It's understandable given how much of her past is difficult to talk about and having to constantly filter yourself is hard. Hope she settles in and does some more fun collabs because despite everything she's clearly very professional at this and can only improve from here.

>> No.70601257

>>70600941
Lots of places are like that, but in the end, it's the responsibility of the locals to use their legacy to their own benefit. It's just disappointing to see it being thrown away, like the fucking barren wasteland is better because it's ours so we'll destroy everything else because it's imported.

>> No.70601285

It's easy to see why she was a hit as Selen, but I can't help but feel like she's currently coasting Ona wave of publicity that will have to inevitably die down a bit.

>> No.70601315

>>70573359
homocolabs, she is a whore

>> No.70601607

>>70601315
Take your meds buddy.

>> No.70601917

Havent watched her as doki but i did watch her before, shes kind of fun to watch but she laughs waaaay too much about literally everything so i end up tuning out

>> No.70601990

>>70573359
Yes, she seems like a great brotuber

>> No.70602139

Am I the only one who doesn't trust her? On the one hand, I respect what she's doing, but I also don't think she's the UWU lovable cinnamon roll she's pretending to be. Anyone that hangs around such a toxic gamer communitiy is definitely hiding something.

>> No.70602200

>>70602139
This is applicable to every vtuber tbf

>> No.70602223

>>70573359
I'm just into vtubers for the asmr so I was never gonna stick around. She seems alright. Even if I was into gaming streamers I don't think I could watch her though, the laughing hints at a really distressing childhood where negativity just was not considered acceptable or something, and I just can't not wonder what exactly happened in her childhood every time she laughs.

>> No.70602334

>>70573359
She is and always has been the "brotuber" that people have talked about wanting. She's a cool lady, and her voice sounds like a cocktail waitress in Atlantic City, so she reminds me of friends back home. Her streams are comfy all around for me, personally

>> No.70602350

>>70573359
I think she's fine. Her laugh is annoying as fuck but less so than shiori's
It's a good filler chuba to watch between fauna streams

>> No.70602474

>>70585796
You misunderstand anon, it's the neck that's off. If her neck isn't at least 3 meters high her model just won't match her voice.

>> No.70602567

Kinda like watching her streams, most times I just listen to them in the background, but the most fun I had was the (not)TSB collab, I've been just watching old TSB clips ever since.

>> No.70602732

>>70585695
You dopamine receptors need to be fried to enjoy streaming as a form of entertainment

>> No.70602769

>>70601607
cuck

>> No.70602767

>>70601285
She’s still getting back into her groove. She’s gone through hell the past few months, got out of the habit of streaming for a couple months, and is still setting everything up on the business side of things as she goes.

>> No.70602808

>>70573359
I'm still waiting on that Neopets stream

>> No.70603030

>>70573359
not my cup of tea but I support her morally
I'm more into sayu as a chuuba

>> No.70604071

>>70602769
No anon. Not 'respond to this post with more schitzo rambling' but 'take your meds'.

>> No.70604560

>>70604071
kek, cuck

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>>70573359
New viewer, I came in on the drama wave. I started watching Doki because she can speak some Cantonese and to support people who have lived through suicide attempts. I'm not the biggest fan of her content choices, but I can't say I'm a big fan of anyone's content. Both she and Ame stream Apex and I'm not the biggest fan of FPS. I was hoping for something like a Mumei Doki Civilization collab, but I guess something like that is unlikely. I pretty much only play strategy and I haven't found a good strategy v-tuber yet. I saw a clip of Selen-Doki playing Civ so I figure it's only a matter of time before she comes back to it.

Her model is cute, tomatoes are cute, and her tastes are generally based. I can listen to her for hours, same as with most Hololive girls. (I tried listening to Lumi but text to speech, sound effects, and her general pitch made me stop. I only tried to watch Lumi because of her AoE and Total War streams but Lumi feels like a chore to watch. An honest to goodness lemon.) Doki's voice is nice to listen to, her chatting streams are relaxed. Her talking well about her manager makes me feel like I'm in the loop, even if I've only seen half her streams. I'll probably stick to her chatting streams. I'm interested in seeing what Doki's future content will be.

>> No.70604932

>>70585695
You do know that there are many vtubers out there that make many creative streams, right?
It's just that they can only do such things occasionally because setting them up is kind of a pain, and the algorithm is merciless if you don't stream often enough.

>> No.70605231

She is kind of abrasive and unapologetic, which is not for everyone.
I watched her second Helldivers stream with TSB and to be totally honest, I cringed too much when she was teasing rpr who clearly sounded too tired to both carry a team of unironic greenbeards and entertain all of the verbal jabs. Also the clips of her with Filian are presented as if she's teasing the VR kit breaker, and Filian is at times just kind of speechless and fuming. Everyone keeps saying it's banter, and I never really understood banter, so I may as well could be just a personal gripe.
But in other times she is radiant and bright and watching her laugh makes me kind of warm. I am conflicted on her.

Point is - she's not some universally liked streamer. If you watched Selen and liked her style, Doki is pretty much a direct continuation of this paradigm. With a bit less filter now that she is free from the bottle.

>> No.70605479

Haven't watched her prior to her termination, nor Niji at all, but after watching her after the whole mess, I'd say that I do enjoy her streams with the energy that she brings, and how well she meshes with collab partners. She's definitely one I'll keep on watching outside my usual diet of mostly Holo, and I wish her much luck and continued success in the future

>> No.70605636
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70605636

>>70597010
Holo still can't get Helldivers perms?

>> No.70605651

>>70573359
her laugh is annoying as fuck.

>> No.70605688

I'll never watch her play APEX or similar slop but when she plays funny shit like Sonic Dreams I'll tune in, you cant get that kind of shit from corpo

>> No.70605696

>>70605636
sony doesnt like them
they got a hard no.

>> No.70605794

>>70605231
she is the kind of person that will banter but if you banter back too hard she breaks up
so you need to hold yourself with her on stream or even as chat.
Not sure how she got there desu.

>> No.70605820

>>70605696
Maybe they will change now that their vtuber project imploded.

>> No.70605887

>>70585695
>post got hated cause it's telling the truth

>> No.70605916

>>70605820
no, the no comes from their wester compnay.
They got a hard no in their ghost of sushi request
but got bloodborn perms.

>> No.70605922

>>70605231
In all honesty her personality is pretty shit. She loves to troll people and make fun of them jobbing but the moment it's her job to carry she chokes 99% of the time and gets angry about it.

She's entertaining to watch but I can see why many people got tired of her antics.

>> No.70605967

>>70573359
I like her well enough, certainly not bad at what she does, not always my choice for games, but she does well in collabs from what I've seen. Good chuuba, good they managed to save her, hope she stays in vtubing.

>> No.70606025

>>70573359
she's annoying and so are her fans who keep begging for a collab with my oshi, which I hope never happens
t. hooman

>> No.70606037

>>70573359
I used to be pretty into apex legends when it came to steam so I've actually watched doki since prior to her joining nijianji. She has more of a casual fleshstreamer vibe than traditional vtubing, which might filter some people tbf.

I just like her because she streams games i really enjoy and is funny while doing it.

>> No.70606097

Fun personality, good at shooting back in conversation, pretty typical genki asian girl - know quite a few of those.

>> No.70606140

>>70606025
>Coping because he knows

>> No.70606218

>>70605231
>and Filian is at times just kind of speechless and fuming
she enjoys that shit

>> No.70606241

>>70573359
I decided to check her out cause of the drama and Im enjoying her commentary for the batman game, she really cant stop giggling every so often, I can see why the clique hated her guts

>> No.70606303

I think she's funny and I like her laugh. I mainly stick to Kiara and Fuwamocco but I used to watch Pomu and Selen on the Nijiside. She even made the en homos likeable

>> No.70606386

>>70606140
hopefully cover blacklisted dookie after her chimp out

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>>70573359
these are my observations as a veteran dragoon. She seems like a far more authentically herself than she did in Nijisanji. Her laughter feels more organically spontaneous and three-dimensional and less artificial and clockwork and clockwork as Selen. She is also wearing the vulnerability on her sleeve she had always tried to bury deep under the Nijifamily façade. Funadmentally, her candour in rebutting the libel and slander thrown her way led to an inevitable pouring of her true being into her online persona, now that the looming shadow of ill-gotten authority has been shrugged off her aura.

>> No.70606516

>>70573359
I only watched her in Vsai as Selen and now I watch her depending on the game or collab

>> No.70606609

Yeah... I can't care at all, but I'm glad she seems doing fine I guess

>> No.70606685

My one incredibly selfish desire for Dokibird's future plans is that she get herself at least one outfit that has the tomboy charm of Selen's original. Girls in comfy hoodies, pants and especially sneakers will never not give me warm fuzzy feelings. In the pants. Jackpot if the sneakers and socks come off. Sniff-motherfucking-aaaaaaAhHHHH

IIRC she wasn't a huge fan of that look, which is why I bury this horny wish in the bowels of /vt and not anywhere near her official channels.

>> No.70606720

>>70573359
I miss her Selen model but she's still fun to watch, I just want the drama to die down and go back to comfy

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>>70606386
>friends with Moomer
>friends with Holotempus, YAGOO's pet project
Sister, Yagoo isn't Riku.He actually has a heart. Naturally this concept is foreign to your experience, but it makes no difference. Your cope is just that.

>> No.70606780

>>70606685
she's getting a tomboy outfit next

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>>70606720
>poached her own fandom name
>poached her own intro animation and animator
>lips sealed on who her new model artist mama will be
Let her cook. The meal will be a banquet for the Old Guard.

>> No.70606977

>>70605636
Less an issue with Holo and more so with Helldiver's publisher
They announced publically that anyone is free to stream it, but won't be specifically giving out perms for it even if asked
works out for indies, but considering how JP agencies work looking for specific game perms to cover their ass, doesn't work out for them

>> No.70606982

>>70596643
>You are literally 39IQ Daphne " I didn't see anything and read anything about this but I have an opinion so it's right ".
The guy literally said he watched two streams of Doki's to form his opinion of her; how is that even remotely equivalent, you retard? Something tells me you take the short bus on the way to school.

>> No.70607057

>>70573359
Same old same old, she's fine, but not someone I'd watch regularly. Good in collabs.
Although design wise Selen to Doki is one of the biggest downgrades out there. I know she was eager to come back, but I feel like she should've taken some time to make a new design, but people seem to like it so what do I know.

>> No.70607113

>>70606770
hey don't call me a sister just because I don't want her to collab with my owlshi
I assure most hoomans in /who/ feel the same way

>> No.70607142

>>70607057
Nah, she did great bouncing back fast. Model needs some fix but getting the foot in is always the best, and Niji proved it right by immediately trying to Sayu her only to shoot themselves with a nuke.

>> No.70607175

>>70607057
>Although design wise Selen to Doki is one of the biggest downgrades out there
I agree but I've been watching her since her niji debut so maybe I'm just too used to Selen.

>> No.70607216

>>70607057
her "new" design is very bland in comparison but I'm glad she came back fast

>> No.70607218

>>70606770
I don't think she's gonna jump into any corpo after this shit, but yeah, Moom would have her nepohired in a second. Imagine if she makes in with Pomu, the seethe will be legendary.

>> No.70607320

>>70606720
Yeah.. I wish she looked at least a bit more like a thief or a bird...

>> No.70607339

She is alright, not one of the chuubas I actively dislike (and there are a few of those).

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>>70597220
Chat is a reflection of the streamer after all. But if you really want thin-skinned vtuber fans, look no further than the unicorns who flip their shit over throwaway BBC innuendo, not the army primed to fend off a ridiculously precedented history of unwarranted attacks from an aggressor with an absurdly unfair superiority resources.

>> No.70607410

>>70607320
huh she's a thief? i thought she was a school girl

>> No.70607448

>>70607218
>notorious NDA breacher
>having a chance at Cover Corp.
lol, but maybe Pomu could join

>> No.70607453

>>70607218
never said she would join Holo. I just don't think collabs are off the table.

>> No.70607481

>>70607410
It's meant to be thief themed. Which makes all she's stealing back even funnier.

>> No.70607501

>>70607398
This is a good take. They have nothing on Fujo's > Unicorns > Incels. Those three are the trinity of mentally ill netizens.

>> No.70607644

>>70605794
Hmm
Was there someone who could outbanter her? Did she shut down as you say?
I would very much like to see someone who could be toe to toe with her

>> No.70607753

>>70607113
If hoomans hate their oshi's friend that much, especially after their oshi went out of her way to stand by said friend in their hour of need, then you don't deserve your oshi. Then again, that can be said for the vast majority of Holobronies /here/.

>> No.70607869

>>70606780
yes, but will the sneakers be

1. cool
2. comfy
3. Sniffa-able

>> No.70608309

>>70607448
I would love that honestly, she is not a bad person, and does have the idol dream

>> No.70608311

>>70585695
I think you should go to a board about a hobby you actually enjoy instead of being a worthless dramatranny.

>> No.70608412

No hate here, do not know much about her, but she has my support for escaping an abusive employer. Many people have experienced toxic work environment, and decent people do not wish that on others.

>> No.70608634

>>70573359
Watched her periodically (am out of town for work often) for a long time, she has the talent to be a streamer. Surely there is a place for her, if she grinds it out and finds her place. Best of luck to Dokibird.

>> No.70608743

>>70573359
>New viewers who found her through the drama, did you stay?
Yes she's fun but holy fuck she screams + laughs so loud sometimes I have to lower the volume so she doesn't destroy my ears.
When she talks normally it's all great. I watched some clips of her as Selen too and I liked those too so I guess I'm here now

>> No.70608855

>>70573359
I liked her as Selen, but when ID collapsed due to mismanagement, and Zaion was terminated, I swore off all of Niji, even though I'd been watching them longer than any other company.
My own circumstances prevent me from being a Dragoon again, but I'll support her gladly where I can.

>> No.70609112

>>70573359
New viewer, I feel like I slept on Selen desu, she is not bad at all. Will tune in for Dokibird streams now and then in the future.

>> No.70609366

Old Dragoon who was gone for a long time but was summoned when I heard about the drama. Super pissed about what happened, made sure to hitch myself to her account when she came back, showed up and dropped some cash on the charity too. Will show my support when able, even if I do not always have time to watch streams - because my work is really time-consuming.

>> No.70609547

>>70592155
>Streamed 3 times
Anon....
https://www.youtube.com/@Dokibird/streams

>> No.70609582

>>70586031
Sayu streams all day though.

>> No.70610160

>>70606977
Cover should just get rid of the JP corpo autism and just let them stream games with "free" perms

>> No.70610899

>>70573359
Longtime viewer, feeling pretty good about where she is at now. Just wish the drama would die down so she can do her thing in peace. All in due time.

>> No.70611026

>>70607644
Once really, but it took rpr, surefour and multiple hours of tilt.

>> No.70611241

>>70573359
Never watched her, not planning to. But Nijisanji and their shitty practices have left a stink in the vtuber community going back years. She is lucky to escape that mess, many other people had their lives ruined by sisters doing the zhang-zerg (the mob harassment where they go full psycho to dehumanize the target). Fuck these people and their reprehensible practices. We need good people in the community, not just corporate bootlickers.

>> No.70611560

>>70602334
>women are better brotubers than men
Grim

>> No.70611653

>>70573359
Casual viewer, I vibe with her, she is good fun

>> No.70611824

>>70573359
Didn’t watch her as selen bc I always thought Niji was disgusting. Tuned in to see what all the fuss was about and she was pretty funny. Now I’m a regular

>> No.70611835

>>70573359
Learned about her through the drama, will not be watching her. But she has my continued support for sticking it to Niji and their shitty fans. Those people ruin vtubing for the rest of us.

>> No.70611890

>>70610160
Unfortunately, I don't see that happening after certain antis almost took down Mio's channel over perms, and any company worth their money will try to prevent that again, nip it from the start really
Also, if there's one thing the JP legal departments hate, it's ambiguity
Unfortunate, but necessary

>> No.70611943

>>70573359
I watched a few clips but ended up blocking her on everything because the algo kept pushing her into my feed. I might unblock her in a few months after the buff wears down.

>> No.70612194

>>70576620
Fucking over the highest subbed female talent is usually a bad move. Especially when they lie in the public firing notice, get caught and then try to slander her more through the talents mouths through more manipulation and breaking of NDA. Literally turned a huge, dedicated Nijisanji fanbase into antis in a couple days. Didn't help them that Pomu, one of Selen's best friends in the company left with huge grievances with the company.

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>>70573359
I was never really into live-streams. I'm only a clip/VOD watcher and when I did put on a live-stream it was only for the background noise. But Doki is the only time I have watched a live-stream from beginning to end. I have watched every single live-stream scene. I became a big fan of hers and for the first time bought a membership along with merch. She is funny, cute, and entertaining. I look forward to supporting her from here on out.

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>>70573359
>New viewers who found her through the drama, did you stay?
Until the whole fiasco happened I legit didn't understand the appeal of vtubers. Turns out I just really don't like professional idols but am perfectly fine with streamers that are more like her. I've since branched out a little bit, mostly to other indies and to a lesser extent Phase, but Doki's still comfortably the one I like most and I'm absolutely here to stay.

>> No.70613264

>>70613112
Good on you anon, the internet is your garden to roam. Have fun !

>> No.70613432

>>70573359
I unsubbed as soon as I smelled her grift. All Nijis are the same.

>> No.70613485

>>70573359
Last Selen stream I watched was either Fear or Doom. I thought she was okay but her constant laughter over nothing is retarded.
Also using suicide to propel herself as an indie like this is peak greed. Not a fan, and I hate you retards constantly spamming her around.

>> No.70613736

>>70573359
I never thought I'd say this about a female streamer ever.
But she's actually funny. Legit good sense of humor. Came from the drama, stayed for the chuuba. She even streams at an hour sensible for my day job.

Thanks

>> No.70614108

>>70573359
I like her. My time is limited for watching, but I did member. And did donate because I lost a family member to mental illness, that shit is no joke.

>> No.70614469

>>70573359
I've watched her since her debut. She was the first niji en I actually got into and membered. i don't even like apex or have many of the same gaming interests as her, I just enjoy her personality and how entertaining she is. I actually cooled off watching vtubers in general when she was silently suspended before the termination. i just didn't watch vtubers in general anymore and moved on to other stuff to watch.

now that she's back, I've been all-in again when it comes to catching streams. I've started to tune into sayu during the doki downtime. I'm happy that she's in a much better place now, and I'm looking forward to all the future projects she's working on. I didn't have the financial stability to give much to the charity auction or buy much merch, but I'll keep having my membership going as my show of support.

>> No.70614510

>>70576579
This but unironically. I want to see how dramaniggers will spin it, I want to see how Dokifags spin it, I want to see how sisters spin it, I want to see how Niji anties spin it. Also model was cute, but I think she needs to age it up a little for the brush up.

>> No.70614729

It's amazing that you can spot the instant NDF woke up and noticed the thread.

>> No.70614837

>>70573359
Never watched, won't start. But she did impress me with her recovery from this. Whatever her anti's may say, that is not something everyone can do. That speaks to her character.

>> No.70615118

>>70606770
If she ever falls to sub 2k she might consider it, but until then there's 0 reason for her to do it.

>> No.70615226

>>70573359
I watched her debut to show support but I want to wait until dramafags and numbermonkeys fuck off before I continue watching.

>> No.70615515

>>70615226
>I want to wait until dramafags and numbermonkeys fuck off before I continue watching
Why?

>> No.70615657

>>70615226
That's a fair reaction, anon. Honestly I'm pretty sure that in a way, the sisters HAVE made some people annoyed at her, but not nearly as much as they have made people absolutely hate Nijisanji for forcing her to clog up the catalog with all their hatebait posts. I hope you'll like her if you try to check her out later, because she seems like she's here for the long haul.

>> No.70615999

>>70615515
Because I don't like the endless shitflinging from these factions.

>>70615657
Oh I'm not annoyed at her at all. I just don't like some of the scum that uses her image here, they are nothing like the /haha/ thread that I used to sometimes visit.
Thank you, I will definitely watch her more once things go back to "normal" in a few months.

>> No.70616093

>>70573359
Never watched her in niggersanji, started because of the drama, enjoy her immensely. She's great at her job, fps autism notwithstanding.

>> No.70616127

>>70615999
Random Dragoon here, I agree with you. We are in the middle of the dramafags and tribalfags right now. Lots of shit-flinging, every other day the /haha/ thread gets raided. You are better off just tuning in for streams and not getting too involved until things cool down. Can't really control what 4chan does, always was like that.

>> No.70616260

>>70573359
Tourist. I like her sense of humor, and she seems to laugh when she gets nervous or surprised, which I find really cute. Not some outstanding top tier streamer, but certainly not talent-less or a newbie either. Figure she will do just fine.

>> No.70616343

>>70613485
> I thought she was okay but her constant laughter over nothing is retarded.

Same here, she seemed fun to watch but after a while it annoyed me.

>> No.70616588

>>70573359
Heard of her because of the drama, watched 2 streams, found both boring.

>> No.70616662

Tuned in after drama, I will never forgive them for what they almost took from the world.

>> No.70616886

>>70573359
She's always been cute but moreso as Selen because I don't like Dokibird's current design at all, it desperately needs a redesign. Her game choices and also with how much she collabs also aren't really my cup of tea so she's just not for me.

>> No.70617174

>>70573359
I already have an oshi, but I turned in to watch her and Shylily piss all over the place while talking about constipation. That was a wild stream, she is definitely not boring. Good luck to her viewers, wish nothing bad on her.

>> No.70617351

>>70585695
>this entertainment is lazy
>lurks /vt/ for drama
What did anon mean by this?

>> No.70617758

>>70574817
Based

>> No.70617792

>>70594064
The only reason she played apex so much was because it was a filler game whenever her game perms would get rejected by management.
Hell, one time she played RE4 which was ON the list for two great full streams, before going on twitter a week later, apologizing, and saying that the vods will have to be deleted and they can't play it anymore. Meanwhile other members in I think JP and KR were still playing it.

>> No.70618566

>>70573359
She's entertaining but not a must-see for me. It's more like a type of streamer I'll click on if I'm bored and it pops up on the homepage when I go on YT.
Granted, I'm a ruffian going through oshi-withdraw right now, so I've watched doki more and some others to try and distract. It's extreme whiplash going from Fuwamoco to Doki, but nonetheless, I like Doki's sense of humor - semi unhinged but not disgusting/over-the-top whorish like old vshojo humor. I tried keeping up with her on the return to see if I wanted to become a regular, but I wasn't really captivated by her content. I think she went on a bit too many long tangents for me that it got a bit old after some time, but I get why people like her.

>> No.70618666

>>70574269
mostly same. I don't watch every one tho

>> No.70619121

>>70573359
She's just Selen but with a garbage model, not that great of a vtuber, but everything surrounding her now is annoying and people won't take her cock out of their mouths because "muh you poor thing, you didn't deserve to be treated badly". It's just a bunch of self-righteous pricks supporting another.

>> No.70619473

>>70602139
But she is portrayed as the "toxic gamer vtuber" even as selen

>> No.70619668

>>70619121
Honestly anon, you sound more self-righteous than anything I heard out of this drama about her. Are you sure that is not just projection, because mad?

>> No.70619732

>>70619668
Take this (You), looks like you need it more than me.

>> No.70619798

>>70619732
Thank you Anon, letting go of anger is so important !

>> No.70619943

>>70606972
She already leaked it since it was one of the goals on her charity stream, it's laimu's mama, actually pretty good at that kind of work

>> No.70619977

>>70573359
Always thought she was funny. Didn’t like the streams where she got a bit too moody and frustrated when her performance was lacking in a game, but in retrospect, that could have been something that was being caused, or at least aggravated, by her work environment.

Enjoyed that stream from back when she commentated on old shows, like that live-action horror adaptation of Archie. Sad it’s gone now, though.

>> No.70620061

>>70619977
I believe her thread has archives if you should wanna go look for it some day.

>> No.70620177

Honestly i thought she was pretty cool as Selen and her model as well!!, but fuckkkkkkk if i cant stand anything related to Niji , Its like a repelent. Plus..she sounded way too tired? or sad , just something i noted last year when she played with tempus. (know we know why)

On the other hand she feels more relaxed as Doki , having the same essence as she was while working with Niji she feels more alive and happy, and her laugh is contagious

>> No.70620522

>>70620061
That’s good to know. If I’m lucky, that stream was its own standalone rather than a segment she tangented into after finishing playing a game.

>> No.70620698

>>70573359
I've been intrigued by her over the years, but I couldn't watch her with a clear conscience because Nijisanji. Now that I can watch her guilt free, I think Dokibird is amazing. I love how she finds everything funny and is always laughing. I've watched nearly every non-Apex stream of hers.
I blush every time I think about her

>> No.70620825

annoying fake laugh, annoying voice in general
i don't watch people who spam apex and male collabs
westernized 2nd gen chinks are the worst
fuck manjisanji too in case people think i'm a sister

>> No.70621573

>>70573359
>For those who left, what didn't you like?
I left long before the drama because of her constant collabs with twitch shitters. In retrospect it's pretty clear why she wasn't so keen on collabing with Niji I guess.

>> No.70621821

>>70621573
I guess we all overlooked some shit on that account. Was as blindsided by Pomu's graduation as everyone else, but the signs that something was not daijoubu was there.

>> No.70621953

>>70573359
New viewer here, I'll watch her solo streams if there's nothing (interesting) to watch from chuubas I like more than her

>> No.70622355

>>70619943
No, it was Laimu's papa she's got. She specifically saod during that stream that she's still keeping her upcoming mama a secret.

>> No.70622440
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>>70585695
>My problem in general with streamers is that they are lazy and uninspired.
>They never practice comedic timing and acting in order to understand the essence of entertainment.
the best ones absolutely do
see also: marine, shigure ui, korone

>> No.70622803

>>70622440
Korone's timings are wild, she really is built different

>> No.70625556

>>70573359
Endearing, loud, loves her fans.

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