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70536540 No.70536540 [Reply] [Original]

I can't help but say it.
I think their impulsive and sudden move to Japan is partly an act of desperation because, outside of Advent, they feel excluded, ostracized, and can't form actual connections with almost the rest of EN, so they think giving it a go with the JPs will turn out better.

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70536936

It's not that deep. They're just turbo weebs. Look at their past, and they're off the deep end, moreso than any other EN

>> No.70536974

>>70536540
Honestly you might be right, Outside of calli who collabs with everybody, They have not had a 1 on 1 collab with ANYONE else in EN outside of advent, Any other time has been a group collab or them calling into mumei's art stream with biboo

>> No.70537243

>>70536540
I mostly agree, but is sounds more like a well thought out decision than desperation. A good decision at that.

>> No.70537504

>>70536540
There's a fuckton of anti holo threads today huh, it seems like sisters are at 100% full power today to deflect something.

>> No.70537553

>>70536540
it ain't that deep op, they're weeb prime

>> No.70537651

>>70536974
The JPs won't be as social as they hope either. They're forever going to be isolated for being so autistic about kayfabe.

>> No.70537716

This was always their plan. For them, Japan is the promised land and shit.

>> No.70537718

>>70536540
>outside of Advent
>the rest of EN
That's a cesspool, they are better off without them.

>> No.70537783

>>70537504
It's a Zaion 6 hour termination deflection

>> No.70537842

>>70536540
It's not that hard, the only way to get the full opportunites of the JP idol experience is to actually be in JP - and this is clearly something they'd longed for for years.

>> No.70537851

>>70537243
Honestly, yeah. Their options are kinda... Bad?
-Myth-
>Gura
Implying
>Kiara
Antithetical to how they like to stream
>Ame
Not their vibe
>Mori
Kinda good? But she's in Japan, so there's that
>Ina
Too boring to play off of

-Promise-
>Fauna
She'd get frustrated at Fuwawa doing her schtick better
>Bae
Told them to slow things down. They probably didn't like that
>Kronii
She's anti-idol, so she despises them on principle
>IRyS
I think they'd vibe pretty well together if she's not drunk

Other than a couple, it's slim pickings for them. Their JP senpai would be better choices tbdesu

>> No.70537867

>>70537718
Typical ruffian post. Shitting on everyone else.

>> No.70537868

>>70536540
>outside of Advent, they feel excluded, ostracized, and can't form actual connections with almost the rest of EN
You mean Shiori?

>> No.70537911

>>70537867
No, I only watch Biboo in HoloEN. But close enough.

>> No.70538018
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>>70537867
Tell Yagoo to hire better EN talent then

>> No.70538032

>>70537851
Yes, the only two outside of Advent that are not DOA are living in Japan, that's yet another reason to move there.

>> No.70538069

>>70536974
>>70537868
Also applies to this comment. That is Shiori.

>> No.70538073

>>70538018
He did. You guys didn't even try to watch them.

>> No.70538200

>>70536540
More like they just know the reality that Cover won't give them shit unless they're in Japan.
I mean have you seen all the shit Bae has been in since moving?

>> No.70538201

>>70537851
>Fauna
they can't collab with her because I don't think she could stop herself from destroying their ridiculous kayfabe

>> No.70538363

>>70536974
Reine is honorary EN

>> No.70538478

>>70536540
They never wanted to be EN vtuber their goal always was to stream to a japanese audience because they're actual turboweebs. Now they moved to japan and that makes it easier for them to do what they originally wanted. They're more than just honorary jp at this point. The only people the dogs have chemistry with is biboo and thats it.

>> No.70538735

i dont think they are moving to japan because of offcollabs with jp senpais. they just wanna LIVE in japan. theyd probably move there if they were rich people even if they didnt join hololive.

although its true that they probably feel closer to jps than most of ens. otherwise they wouldnt have gone to jps totsu streams. they always sounded nervous when they talked to jp senpais but theyve still tried to willingly communicate with them.

>> No.70538897

>>70538363
Being Kiara's sex slave doesn't automatically turn you into an EN

>> No.70538973

>>70536540
they are following their lifelong dreams.. it's not that deep sister

>> No.70538981

They’ve wanted to move to Japan for a decade

>> No.70539004

>>70538363
No she's not. Delusional kfpiss

>> No.70539026

>>70536540
Can't blame them when EN is full of whores.

>> No.70539099

>>70537651
A lot of JP is kayfabe centered tho, Certainly more than the literal 0 people following kayfabe/character in EN (outside of advent which goes at it harder than the rest), Also JP LOVE fuwamoco, There are several clips out there of JPs like pekora and mio becoming very excited with the prospects of meeting them, And lui/polka will practically move in with them

>> No.70539147

They are huge weebs and also very autistic.
Any collab will be a struggle but they wanted to move to Japan because they are weebs.

>> No.70539248

>>70539026
>Shiori has a bbc and ntr fetish and keeps to herself.
>Nerissa is basically Kiara and Mori's love child and is fucking annoying.
>bijou is the only one the dogs tolerate but her incessant childish tangents and forced memes filter them.
Of course.

>> No.70539256

Bait used to be believable, this is rookie shit.

>> No.70539479

>>70539248
On the other hand Fuwamoco pretending to be actual dogs and talking like babies filters everyone else, it's a two way street.

>> No.70539517

>>70539248
Ironically they seem to get along with calli well, But she is kind of a chameleon in that she is able to mold her behavior to match whoever she is collabing with, She feels more slowpaced and "gentle" in collabs with them as opposed to say.. her collabs with kronii or chadcast

>> No.70539655

>>70539479
Honestly yeah, I genuinely can't imagine kronii or gura playing along when they start talking about pero and mama/papa puppy, But i think it's fine, They appeal to a long starved out niche in EN vtubing, which is why they are the biggest out of advent, A lotta people have been wanting the kind of content they put out

>> No.70539781

>>70539099
>Be excited to meet fuwamoco
>meet twins
>they don't look asian
>nevermind, I left my instant ramen on the cupboard, brb
>ghosts them

>> No.70539889

>>70539517
Tbh advent is cover latest project. I remember when girls were fairly new mori was told to stay the fuck away from them by higher ups. So of course mori would walk around egg shells around them and be extra nice. Speaking of mori wtf did people do to her? She went from being a loud obnoxious chuuba to whatever shes forcing herself to be now same with kronii like it feels so fucking fake lol.

>> No.70539935

>>70539479
Unironically it's very obvious Shiori, Nerissa like it's but gets tired after a bit, Biboo tries to play along but can't keep up and gets frustrated, Fuwawa kisses Mococo and Mococo exists I guess.

>> No.70539987

>>70539479
Only filter normals fags who also tell other people that wrestling is fake without understanding why people like it on the first place.

>> No.70540022

>>70539781
Gura doesn't look asian and nearly all of the JP branch wants to rape her

>> No.70540052

>>70536540
>>2 nips move back to japan
NOWAYING

>> No.70540116

>>70540022
They just said her eyes were cute. Jp have a fetish with eye color. If you have green or blue eyes you will get laid in japan nomatter what you look like.

>> No.70540195

>>70539889
She was told she wasn't allowed to meet them face to face before debut, I don't think anything was mentioned about after debut, Considering they collabed with her as early as the first month with the smash bros stream, (I can't remember if that was their first 1 on 1 collab outside of advent or if it was fubuki in the backrooms)

>> No.70540286

>>70539781
They actually desperately try to appear like Japanese even if they aren't, which I think might rub some of the JPs the wrong way

>> No.70540319

>>70540052
There are an alarming number of tourists here who don't know about their PLs and think they're European weebs.

>> No.70540346

>>70538201
>Implying that Fauna isn't fake as fuck.

>> No.70540444

>>70540346
She's pretty honest about herself. Obviously doesn't go into details of her personal life, but most of them don't do that either.

>> No.70540482

>>70540319
I knew about their 2d PLs but it wasn't until some pagpag niji defender made a deflection thread with a headliner pic of random flesh twins called FUWAMOCO.JPEG that i found out about their OTHER PL, It got deleted after 5 minutes but seriously fuck that pinoy bitch

>> No.70540658

>>70540319
They're North American, though, with some euro ancestry.

>> No.70540683

>>70536540
How retarded are you that you think them moving to Japan is impulsive? They've been planning it since they got into hololive. They've always dreamed of returning to Japan and now they can. It's way better for what they want to do. Or do you think they got fluent in JP just for shits and giggles?

>> No.70540684

>>70536540
You seem to lack all of the information you could possibly lack. You're drawing conclusions based on incorrect assumptions and lack of information.

>> No.70540805

>>70538478
They never wanted to be Vtubers. Location doesn't matter for whatever language you want to use for Vtubing.

>> No.70540907

>>70538478
They're good with Mori and Mumei too

>> No.70540931 [DELETED] 

>>70540346
Just because Fauna doesn't bring up taking Chad Thundercock's dick each night doesn't make her fake. She's just smart enough to keep stuff she knows people won't want to hear off stream, especially since the "we;re not friends" thing went over kinda poorly.

>> No.70541000

>>70540286
I still remember physically flinching when they told Koyori about how important Yobai was to jp culture.
That's like being a mexaboo and telling them how important wall jumping is for their culture and how much you admire them for it.

>> No.70541040

>>70540286
Back in the late 00s and early 10s it was really popular among some groups to basically try to do yellowface as Japanese as best as possible. That's basically it.

>> No.70541167

>>70541000
Not understanding jokes is a common trait of autistic people.

>> No.70541193

>>70540286
Jp fascination with twins will override a lot. Plus it is just cool to have twin friends in your friend group.

>> No.70541422

I dont think its a Fuwamoco problem .

If you compare Regloss with JP and Advent with EN they don't have the same support.

>> No.70541431

>>70536540
their move was definitely calculated and not an act of despration. and in terms of growing their careers, they have more opportunities there with holo, so it's actually very wise.

as for the feeling excluded/ostracized thing, i doubt it. they're just massive weebs. arguably the biggest weebs in holoEN right now. except for advent (which makes interacting with them same level peers), none of the other girls are that into weeb culture as much really, it's harder to organically connect with different interests (plus others literally are introverted and prefer to be approached than to approach for collabs). maybe mori, irys, bae, ina, kiara, and possibly mumei are the closest ones in terms of weebiness. most of the others ones though have a more western media taste. can you imagine fuwamoco talking about twilight? or warrior cats? or reference western movie/tv series quotes? it's not surprising that there seems to be a gap in their "vibes", and they even admit to it and own it. could definitely be an interesting stream for a cultural exchange of sorts, like fauna/kronii/mumei talking about western media while fuwamoco bringing weeb culture, but better if the exchange is organic.

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>>70540346
>>70540931
can't even imagine how bad you smell

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So what the next fanfiction schizo sisters will come up next when this doesn't come true (which never does).

>> No.70541593

Wouldn't it be funny if they were stopped at the airport and got onto "Why did YOU come to Japan?" and they were like "This time we're here to be baby talking eroge chuubas."

>> No.70541810 [DELETED] 

>>70541442
Hey, I'm just a realistic sapling. I enjoy Fauna but I'm just saying its pretty obvious she's got a BF.

>> No.70541844

>>70541810
don't talk about me on 4channel.organization

>> No.70541847

>>70537504
They got mogged by a piece of paper.

>> No.70541992
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>>70536540
The moving to japan announcement and all of their Mori collab spam while ignoring many others suddenly makes sense. They're so desperate to become japanese that they look at Mori from the west who moved to japan, and are 'using' her to get an in or tips or anything to facilitate them becoming japanese. Mori arguably is using them too for her benefit (insert lean/connor/etc introductions when they meet irl) and the whole thing just feels odd.
When asked about kaela (and all the bee joe collabs) they went "well... we're gonna let biboo continue collabing with kaela" basically saying if she isn't JP they don't care. Anya collab was only because she's le heckin' JP, Reine collab was because she's rich and they're looking for a private jet or something. Even the JP collabs have been scarce - barely any koyori yobai parties, one (?) lui thing, maybe 2 FBK and polka things, but where the hell are all the other JP collabs if they love them so much? Gotta let 5 Mori collabs happen until the next one!
Also their Japan announcement honestly felt a bit unprofessional. Usually any "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT" is always some product for the fans, whether it be merch or a cover/original song, concert, 3D, literally anything that's a product you can buy or watch. People were swearing to god that it wouldn't be a japan announcement since literally no other EN has ever announced them moving for security/opsec or just not bragging about it. While it may be a dream of theirs, it's the first time they hyped up something that's entirely for them and not the ruffians.

>> No.70542006

>>70537651
>>70539099
JP has kayfabe but it's all yuri.

>> No.70542036

>>70536540
These two have the biggest ambitions in HoloEN apart from maaaybe Calli & Kiara. They'll have way more opportunities for collabs, 3D lives, and big events if they're a 1 hour train ride away from the Hololive studio instead of being a 14 hour plane ride away.

FuwaMoco want to be the biggest. This is a smart play for long-term success.

>> No.70542152

>>70542036
I sincerely hope they fail then. I can't stand their dumb ass fake baby voice and dont want them fagging up even more shit than they already do.

>> No.70542197

>>70541992
lol

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>> No.70542702

>>70541992
You lack critical information.

>> No.70542761

>>70542036
What are you talking about. It's the exact opposite, this is just a side hustle for them, Famalia.

>> No.70542829

>>70536540
The general methodology in hololive seems to be to collab with your own gen when you start out until you build up the skillset, and then you can start moving in the hololive ecosystem proper. Most of gen 0, 1, and 2 are pretty freeform with their collab interactions, like Haachama basically injecting herself into EN and Miko into Sankisei back in the day. FWMC presumably had their sights on Japan from the start and made that clear in the application, so they just don't have much reason to engage with EN beyond their "trainee phase" gen collabs. Not to mention, FWMC is basically a full time collab cell anyway, which complicates things further.

>> No.70542917

>>70542761
By both time and money, they're overwhelmingly occupied with Hololive. If you're going to be a PL fag at least get your information straight.

>> No.70542987

>>70542152
They will not fail. Cope. Seethe. Bau

>> No.70543043

>>70542152
What's your problem with Sakura Miko?

>> No.70543070

FWMC are twincestuous and are fleeing to japan where they'll be fetishized instead of witchhunted for it.

>> No.70543210

>>70541992
Amazing, every part of that post is just amazingly retarded, like it was made in a lab or something.

>> No.70543218

>>70542036
>They'll have way more opportunities for collabs, 3D lives, and big events if they're a 1 hour train ride away from the Hololive studio instead of being a 14 hour plane ride away.
This, no matter what management claims the EN talents will get more chances at 3D studio time if they move to Japan. Cover will never admit that since they know how that sounds but Fuwamoco quickly figured that out.

>> No.70543267

>>70543218
I don't think they became basically fluent in japanese just because they wanted to do more lives.

>> No.70543272

>>70542917
What are you talking about? All hypothetically of course. I know if I was dedicated to playing a baby dog more than just to pay the bills I wouldn't announce a 2024 debut a few weeks before my other debut.
>PL
Who said anything about the past? Are you saying FWMC is their PL? I wouldn't go that far...

>> No.70543405

They're moving to Japan to have sex with me.

>> No.70543503

>>70543272
They recently confirmed they have no plans until the end of 2024 at best. By both time invested and money earned they're as committed to Hololive as anyone else with an active RM. You're a little cringe faggot about it and probably brown.

>> No.70543566

>>70541992
>. Even the JP collabs have been scarce - barely any koyori yobai parties, one (?) lui thing, maybe 2 FBK and polka things, but where the hell are all the other JP collabs if they love them so much?
Chloe, AZKi, Chocosen.

>> No.70543657

>>70543503
Why do you keep posting stuff if it's only going to hurt your feelings? I know why they're going back to Japan, and it was nothing you suggested.

>> No.70543843

kek, what yab is going on with kurosanji this time?

>> No.70544149

>>70536540
>they feel excluded, ostracized, and can't form actual connections with almost the rest of EN
Yeah the extremely motivated, hardworking and self-sufficient duo who debuted to runaway success feel really bad that a bunch of people who don't stream won't be their friends lmao

>> No.70544600

>>70541000
Fuwawa's thing is defenseless sex appeal. She has a sexy body yet she's innocent and childish, she likes a japanese sex word but when inquired by Koyori is actually clueless to what it means. Koyori even warned Fuwawa that she'll yobai her if she isn't careful, which is her pretty much spelling out the joke. Hololive isn't prudish and JP won't shun them for being a bit racy the way Gura had to constantly battle westerners for selling loli sex appeal.

>> No.70544664

>>70544600
>when inquired by Koyori is actually clueless to what it means
Really anonchama?

>> No.70544722

They are 100% going to Japan with the intention of fucking as many japanese idol women as possible.

>> No.70544829

>>70544722
kinda right, but they are looking for boyfriends instead to satisfy their turbo weeb fantasies.

>> No.70544920

>>70540022
She has 4.4 million subscribers, anon. They want her for the clout.

>> No.70544965

>>70536540
>impulsive
>sudden
Not really, they pretty much confirmed it like 2 months in during some random chat.

>> No.70545339

>>70544829
>tfw no cute japanese bf

>> No.70545395

>>70544664
https://youtu.be/j8IYjTXoAMQ?t=3280
It's obviously kayfabe, but when asked if she wanted to yobai or be yobai-ed, her response was basically an overtly clueless sexual invitation to all of holoJP.

>> No.70545428

>>70544920
atleast 4 million of those subs are deadge let's be honest with ourselves, probably literally cause of her covid boom, If it wasn't for her farming "return stream" buffs every time she streams, She'd be a consistent 10k at most nowadays

>> No.70545590

>>70543070
Now this is a worthy rrat

>> No.70545660

>>70538018
He did , why do you think there are so many seething holo rejects around ??

>> No.70545672

>>70543267
The learned jp so they could read ergoe VNs as soon as they came out even if they never get translated.

>> No.70546157

>>70545339
>Tfw twins can only date other twins

>> No.70546200

>>70536540
I don't think it was impulsive. They are clearly super weebs and living in Japan was always a priority for them, and it makes sense professionally for them to move so they have access to all the same things JP have for 3D, practice and recording. However, they do clearly struggle with making connections with other girls. I don't think moving to Japan is going to help them with that. The collabs they've had with JPs like Polka, FBK and Lui all had the same thick air of stiffness and awkwardness that their EN collabs had.

>> No.70546350

>>70546200
>The collabs they've had with JPs like Polka, FBK and Lui all had the same thick air of stiffness and awkwardness that their EN collabs had.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk7Rlt-MVB4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qndV7ZjG16Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSiZXQMc-w0

>> No.70546459

>>70545395
Yeah my bad, I misread that as you thinking she really didn't know

>> No.70546557

>>70540286
Japanese have a lot of cultural pride so they like weebs, they just dislike useless people even more than they like having their culture praised. People playing the trolley game overwhelmingly voted to kill lower skilled workers, NEETs, strangers, elderly, antisocials, and other low productivity people each time when given the choice. All you need to do if you want is a long term visa in Japan is join a japanese dojo. You don't even need a job. FWMC are successful weebs so they should be pretty popular, especially if they're attractive IRL.

>> No.70546559

>>70546459
People are retarded. This yobai joke has been going on ever since koyo featured it on asakoyo.

>> No.70546687

>>70537851
>They probably didn't like that
they regularly like/retweet her stuff, so they absolutely like her

>> No.70546755

>>70539479
>pretending
Anon, they are LITERALLY demon dogs, though.

>> No.70546864

>>70539248
>only one the dogs tolerate
Fuwawa is constantly rambling about Nerissa, and both seem to really like and get along well with Shiori.

>> No.70546893

>>70546687
The ruffians also constantly told them to slow down and look after themselves for the first few months, They legit streamed atLEAST once a day for 100 days, and over half of those were multiple streams per day, so i'd say they've earned a couple weeks or even a month hiatus while they settle down, They'll get their 3d, have the kino wrestling stream, and be invited to every 3d live from now until they graduate, and all will be right in the world

>> No.70547022

>>70546893
Now is the best time to rest. Ramp up activities after holofes and chase that 1M subs goal.

>> No.70547124

>>70546893
>The ruffians also constantly told them to slow down and look after themselves for the first few months
They've been saying it for 7 months straight, anon. FuwaMoco have a habit of overworking themselves hard, and it ends up showing in their streams sometimes when they seem out of it or overly tired.

>> No.70547218

>>70546350
>three very clearly corpo-mandated streams with JPs that are exactly 1-hour long each and involve them staying in character
This isn't helping and honestly makes me sad. Like, literally all of them end right before the 1-hour mark. I want to see a stream where they genuinely enjoy each others company.

>> No.70547236

>>70547124
Moving to Japan will fix their sleep schedule and alleviate that issue.

>> No.70547337

>>70547124
At least they're workaholics doing something worthwhile. Imagine being one of those people who wastes 40 years of their life giving 120% in finance or some shit
>>70547218
I'd rather they just stop collabing outside of major events. They're self-sufficient, every fuwamoco stream is already the best kind of collab (co-commentary with great chemistry)

>> No.70547345

You have to put this down to jealousy, ultimately. They're twins, successful, know the language/culture and everyone is interested in them by virtue of them simply existing. It's the ultimate weeb fantasy that most weebs cannot achieve. They have a lot of potential that they can now realise together. I wish them all the best.

>> No.70547379

>>70540346
What? Her whole yab was being honest to a fault.

>> No.70547385

>>70547236
>Trying to catch anime live on TV at night fucks their sleep even harder

>> No.70547425

>>70547379
>yab

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>>70536540
>their impulsive and sudden move to Japan
I know the real story, but it's boring compared to the rrats.

As most EN fans know, Cover has a standing offer to sponsor work visas for talents located outside of Japan. Fuwuamoco unsurprisingly asked Cover to apply the very second they were allowed. Japan's bureaucracy makes the certificate issuing process take a solid three months, and sometimes longer. The cert gives Fuwamoco a window of three months to get visas, so they stuck it out just long enough to make it to their birthdays before taking a break to move. It wasn't an impulsive decision, but appears sudden because their plan always was to drop everything and move the very second they had visas.

>> No.70547527

>>70547218
Anon, are you retarded?
The collab between choco and lunatan(who is choco's best friend) is 58mins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJkyBCijzQk&t=1932s
AZKi and Bae karaoke stream is 1hr:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abSKWPWUBCM

>> No.70547613

>>70547527
Just because they're friends doesn't mean it wasn't corporate madated, if not semi-scripted even.

>> No.70547630

>>70547337
>I'd rather they just stop collabing outside of major events
Fair point. That might as well be the strategy they take unless they both really click with someone who can play well with their keyfabe. It's tough enough for any of their collab partners getting past being a third wheel, plus they are required to like and click with both of them. It's a tall order.

>> No.70547694

>>70547440
Let's be honest, their ultimate goal is to become JP idols, they are fully ready and willing to throw their western fanbase into the abyss and suck miles of JP cock if it means they make it.

>> No.70547722

>>70547236
They're going to keep streaming in American hours. Their sleep schedule is going to be fucked up beyond recognition.

>> No.70547757

>>70547613
>corporate madated
Are you a newfag? Thats the length of such holo collabs usually go.

>> No.70547772

>>70536540
you dumb fuck, they planned this a ahead of time. however, you don't do your reps, so of course you wouldn't know shit.

>> No.70547800

>>70547440
The idea that this was something done on impulse is laughable if you've watched more than 30 minutes of their streams. They'd have never left Japan if it had been an option.
>>70547694
>throw their western fanbase into the abyss
What's your excuse for not learning Japanese to follow them, fake ruffian?

>> No.70547843

>>70547722
You are an idiot. 6pm PST is 10am JST. Hell, they can stream during American hours, do JP collab/solostreams right after and end off the night at 12am JST with FWMC morning.

>> No.70548077

>>70547613
Lol. Chocosen's body examination has been ongoing on for 4 years. Way to out yourself nijisister.

>> No.70548214

>>70539479
Part of the difficulty is that they RP heavily, but I think that a not-insubstantial, if not the biggest, part of it is that you're basically 1v2 in any conversation with them. You can't form a banter routine with just Fuwawa or just Mococo the way you would any other 1v1 collab because the other will always find a way to interject (and the former will probably actively bring them in), and in a group dynamic they will always be way more in sync with eachother than with you. It's definitely very interesting and exotic but for the actual people interacting with them they're probably considered high-difficulty in collabs.

>> No.70548258

>>70547800
>learning a useless language for some broads that only pretend to care about you when you send them money
lmao, not even once

>> No.70548396

>>70548258
Dont worry, their gachikois are supporting them. Fags like you can stay out.

>> No.70548459

>>70536974
Crazy times we live in when Mori is the most dependable and welcoming senpai.

>> No.70548466

>>70548258
>too dumb to learn a language
>streamers are for le parasocial
Incredible levels of ngmi

>> No.70548470

>>70548214
Honestly, is a skill issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6wGmmEFzoA

>> No.70548729

>>70548466
Why would I waste my time learning a language when I can just watch another streamer? It's that easy.

>> No.70548785

>>70548466
I don't doubt that anon is a cunt, but Japanese is very hard and takes a lot of continuous dedication over years to learn. It's worth considering how you'd use the skill long-term and if you can actually put up the time for it. I envy those young enough to do it, I am now too old and have too many things to prioritise so I had to drop it. It's truly horrifying in some places.

>> No.70548927

>>70537504
It's phase connect, they are falseflagging as nijien.

>> No.70548964

>>70548729
Then why the fuck are you complaining if you are watching another chuuba?

>> No.70549024

>>70548927
Didnt they focus on shiori yesterday? Shifted their attention back to FWMC today.

>> No.70549486

>>70548785
>Japanese is very hard and takes a lot of continuous dedication over years to learn
It's the easiest language on the planet to develop listening comprehension for, I took 8 years of French in school and can't understand a word those fuckers say whereas I got to basic stream comprehension level with JP without even trying. Kanji is the hard part and takes a few years of grinding but you don't need to read to watch chuubas.

>> No.70549518

>>70546200
>The collabs they've had with JPs like Polka, FBK and Lui all had the same thick air of stiffness and awkwardness that their EN collabs had.
The awkwardness is due to one member being on discord. Watch the mario party collab with Okayu/Mio/Korone/Subaru, where Subaru had to go to Korone's place. Same thing. Mixed discord/off-collab environment is just weird because the discord side is missing too much context.
Moving to Japan and doing off-collabs is literally the solution to this problem.

>> No.70549628

>>70548470
They get along well with JPs because the JPs tend to naturally infantilize them. JPs infantilize them because in japan young children are treated as having little individuality, as things like answering in sync are done in gradeschool toward adults, or by adults toward someone with a much higher social status. This is why Towa fawns over them, but is grossed out by Matsuri actively indulging in it. It also makes it a lot more convenient to deal with two people at once that have a gaijin-ish lack of common sense or japanese knowledge by just treating them as a couple kids.

>> No.70550136

>>70549486
I don't see how you'd be able to be confident in your listening comprehension without fully understanding sentence structure, grammar and a shitload of kanji. Not to mention the layered wordplay that's really common in JP. You'd be stuck at a really basic level whereas with another language in your group, like German or, god forbid, Dutch, you might pick up more. Dedicating years of your life to learning kanji and the associated culture, you have to figure out if that is worth it for you. I think, for a lot of people, it won't be. FWMC are obviously the poster child of it being worth it, they fucking love Japan more than anything, it's very obvious and good for them.

>> No.70550660

>>70536540
Or they're just turbo weebs who've been trying to be japanese since middle school.

>> No.70550682

>>70550136
>sentence structure, grammar
Oh no, SOV and figuring out what -てみる means or whatever. That's like a few weeks of work tops, and you'll get plenty of practice watching streams because you want to do that anyway.
Kanji is completely unnecessary for listening comprehension, it can help you get awful on'yomi homophones straight in your head but if all you want is to watch streams you can spend a fraction of the effort just working on vocabulary.
If you're not interested in JP streamers that's fine but it's much easier than you're making it out to be.

>> No.70550710

>>70550136
>a shitload of kanji.
Do you even watch streams? HoloJPs themselves are fucking terrible at kanji.

>> No.70550796

>>70549628
>They get along well with JPs
So there is no problem then.

>> No.70551014

>>70536540
I'm gonna say it. OP is a schizo faggot. It's amazing how retards overanalyze longtime weebs like this just to anti holos.

>> No.70552351

>>70550660
Since pre-school actually, seriously.

>> No.70552360

>>70550796
I think the main challenge they're going to run into is that, although they're good at drawing immediate affection with their childishness, children aren't actually very compelling in the long term. Being HoloJP's bilingual pet gaijin puppies has a lot of immediate novelty, but that routine by itself won't have the staying power that simply being a really good collab partner or solo streamer does. There's multiple baby-holos these days and people are going to get bored of fawning over them eventually, at which point they're going to have to find a way to sell their individuality or fade into obscurity.

>> No.70552575

>>70548964
Anon the whole thread is sisters who don't watch streams having creative writing exercises. Same thing with the Shiori baits.

>> No.70552686

>>70552360
They already shown that they can get JPs to like them, who the hell knows what is going to happen when they finally complete their move to Japan and start spamming off-collabs?

>> No.70552769

>>70552575
Yeah when the sisters talk about foobs, polka and lui collabs, I know they dont even watch streams or know wtf is going on in hololive. Pretty sure they didnt know they were featured in foobs and patra 3D ASMR live or lui keeps tweeting their karaokes.

>> No.70554284

>>70551014
OP did say it was only part of the reason

>> No.70554418

>>70552686
They're riding a novelty wave right now, but novelty is very temporary. Just look at how much Haachama struggles to scrape together any kind of relevance after people got bored of her engrish, food gimmick, and menhera streams. The only ways to be truly successful at vtubing in the long term is to be really good at collabs or really good at audience interaction (ASMR counts), and FWMC is already at a disadvantage in the former because their partners are forced to adapt to their unusual conversation and streaming format.

>> No.70554621

>>70552769
>Lui keeps tweeting their karaokes
Lui is a good girl who loves twins in general. Doesn't mean she loves them.
>Patra 3D ASMR live
Are you talking about this? This isn't direct interaction and is barely "being featured," anon. We know they love to do stuff like this and they are not strangers to Patra or FBK:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWZC_Di7CkY
It's a pretty accurate observation to say that they don't really collab with other girls one-on-one often, and most the times they did were generally awkward or blandly stuck on-character. It's not an indictment against them, just an observation that may or may not change in the future.

>> No.70554639

>>70548459
more like most desperate and eager to leech of other's success

>> No.70554865

>>70554621
>Lui is a good girl who loves twins in general. Doesn't mean she loves them.
And doesnt mean she dont love them?
>It's a pretty accurate observation to say that they don't really collab with other girls one-on-one often
They did more 1-on-1 collabs than Rissa and Shiori. I dont see you writing a long ass essay overanalyzing how it may go wrong for them.

>> No.70554982

>>70554418
>The only ways to be truly successful at vtubing in the long term
Define successful? Every holomems CCV beat the crap out of indies and other corps. Are you talking about getting 10-20k views or what?

>> No.70555206

>>70554865
>I dont see you writing a long ass essay overanalyzing how it may go wrong for them.
That's because I often watch FWMC and don't really watch or care about Nerissa or Shiori outside advent collabs. Pretty simple to understand, I hope. Once again, not an indictment. Just a simple observation that may change with their move to Japan.

>> No.70555220

>>70539479
Nah its real. Mococo didn't get enough oxygen in the womb and Fuwawa humors her.

>> No.70555340

>>70555206
So you are talking out of your ass without checking data?

>> No.70556004

>>70554982
I'd say top half of holoJP+EN in terms of overall channel performance without being a massive grindfag. Hololive itself is still relatively young and just had a massive boom, it can't be assumed that the situation where almost any holo that streams 5 hours per month can live off of the revenue will persist for decades. If a vtuber that doesn't retire early can even maintain an audience for that long. These are mostly young women or even teenagers, they don't want to end up like Hollywood's washed up child celebrities that thought they were set for life only to end up as complete fuckups in their 30s/40s.

>> No.70556055

>>70555340
>checking data
Are you being serious? Literally anyone who has watched them since debut would know they streamed mostly solo outside the weekly advent collabs and a handful of others sprinkled in. It was genuinely a nice surprise to see FWMC had multiple new collabs lined up in the weeks before they announced the move to Japan. I hope they keep that speed up, because I'd like to see them having fun with a lot of the other girls.

>> No.70556669

>>70556055
Even without accounting for those new collabs, they already did more collabs than shiori...

>> No.70557055

>>70539987
Being called a normie for not liking weird anime Teletubbies babyslop is like being called a normie by gay furry fetishists. It's meaningless.

>> No.70557530

>>70556669
That's great, but again I don't watch Shiori and this thread isn't about her, so I don't give a shit about those kinds of comparisons. This is just about them. Fuwamoco have outright said they want to collab with others since day 1, but observably that hasn't really panned out for them yet. There's some signs they are making progress, and they may have better luck with JP girls once they finish moving since they can meet face-to-face.

>> No.70557823

>>70537851
Talking about Kronii, it's suspicious that right at the very moment FuwaMoco are busy doing their moving stuff and can't stream anymore, that's when she decides to do an open-invite Crab Game collab. Open invite, of course, so that no one can accuse her of excluding anyone, but at the same time, aww it's too bad FuwaMoco are moving to Japan and can't participate.

>> No.70558098

They're total weebs, if they aren't collabing with EN much it's probably for some autistic reason like letting their senpai make the first move (but their EN senpais don't know this since they are not and will never be Japanese).

>> No.70558207

>>70536540
>outside of Advent
try inside of advent. fuwamoco are autistic 30 y/o weebs obsessed with a particular era of otaku culture. bijou is an unrelatable zoomer, and both Shiori & Nerissa are whores that break fuwamoco's idol kayfabe anytime they collab. outside of Advent it's pretty much the same. The only semi-relatable chubas in EN are Kiara, Ina, & IRyS. Kiara is on the opposite side of the weeb spectrum as fuwamoco, in that she was more of a normalfag extroverted cosplayer. Ina is just a standard recluse. IRyS is fine, but she's practically JP. Everyone else is some flavor of whore, normalfag, or zoomer that is unpalatable to fuwamoco.

>> No.70558234

What if FWMC going to Japan is just mainly for their next content which is basically like gogo nippon as they commentate Yagoo's trip to different areas in Japan.

>> No.70558265

>english vtuber moves to japan
>their channel goes to shit
many such cases

>> No.70558467

>>70558234
Holos can do VA work on the side, right?
Maybe it's so they can record lines for the new game

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>>70546557
>join a japanese dojo
wait, like karate? wtf

>> No.70559332

>>70558265
Like who? The only one else in holoEN who did that move is Bae, and she moved like a month ago?

>> No.70559370

>>70559332
vtubing exist outside of holoen

>> No.70559558

>>70536540
>outside of Advent, they feel excluded, ostracized, and can't form actual connections
that is purely on their own fault, whenever someone tried to interact with them they were either nonresponsive or just brainrot BAU BAU

>> No.70560325

>>70540116
Wai what? Is that true? So begins my popular phase

>> No.70560920

>>70559370
They dont matter.

>> No.70561043

>>70559558
They are serious about maintaining their act. If someone says something they don't know how to respond to (in character), it can be kind of awkward.
Like when Nerissa mentioned getting pregnant, Fuwawa couldn't react smoothly to that because she didn't know the context. Her mind was spinning.
They'll probably get better at it over time.

>> No.70561182

>>70543218
Kaela talket about this. Studio is avaible for anyone to book but most timeslots are already taken one month prior so it makes it hard to book it if you are unsure when you can actually go to japan and if timeslot opens up suddenly if you are living in japan it easy to boook it

>> No.70561211

>>70536540
What happened was they saw that notPomu getting mad idol pussy in Japan and they wanted some of that too.

>> No.70561244

>>70560920
those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it

>> No.70561345

>>70561244
Victors write history.

>> No.70561462

>>70536540
It's not that complicated. They're just weeaboos, not the "lol I watch animes" kind, but the "I wish I was born Japanese" kind.

>> No.70561476

>>70546893
Still had more than 30 days less than biboo of projected stream time for whole year

>> No.70561495

>>70536936
fpbp

>> No.70561917

>>70561476
Yes because a lot of their content was edited videos or projects instead of streams. In the end, it's still a ton of work hours. Each fuwamoco morning allegedly takes up to 3 hours of prep work, and then they had other projects like sorting through fan responses for events like the scary story stream, the VN assets for those streams, etc.
Still not to say they're doing "better" or "more" than Biboo, just that a lot of the work they do is offstream so it's difficult to look at them just by hours streamed.

>> No.70562366

the funny thing is that such gigantic weebs are super popular even in en. every en branch lacks vtubers like them and redditors and troons mock japanophile things but in reality the demand is so fucking high. maybe the western industry needs more unironic weebs like them.

no en member can keep up with their weeby contents like the VN parodies but jps can. they know it.

>> No.70562487

>>70558611
Or Judo, Kendo, Kyudo, Tea Ceremony, Flower Arrangement, etc. As long as it's specifically some japanese old timey thing they recognize as their culture you can get a long term visa just to learn it there. You need the school to sign your visa documents though and I don't think it lets you work.

>> No.70562822

>>70541000
It's entertainment, anon. They're playing a character and they're very, very practiced and good at it.
It might surprise you to know that Mococo doesn't actually have a chest complex or that she loves the Ruffians and Fuwawa just as much as Fuwawa loves them too.
Also they're whiter than the paper Doki sold that mogged Enna's birthday.

>> No.70563155

>>70562366
Western pop culture has long transitioned from making fun of japanese culture to genuine seethe that they're losing to it. Companies like Disney and WB are in the absolute pits in the same time period that japanese companies like Kadokawa and Cover are mooning.

>> No.70563303

>>70561244
Gay fake saying written by propaganda producers.

>> No.70563379

>>70536974
>>70537868
>>70538069
Depends if you count openvc as a collab.
If so, Shiori had a solo with Fauna that lasted over an hour.

>> No.70563580

>>70559558
They were no more awkward than anyone would be with complete strangers

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>>70559558
People with good people skills tend not to become vtubers.

>> No.70563968

Don't know what people keep calling FWMC babies. Yeah they talk in a baby-ish way but Fuwawa basically wrote an open sexual proposition to all JP senapais on Koyori's stream.

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>>70563968
Also they fucking did this on a livestream and asked if we wanted some marshmallow mania.

>> No.70564076 [DELETED] 

>>70538069
But Shiori has had a 1-on-1 collab with Mori

>> No.70564262

>>70563968
>200 posts
>70 IPs
Okay, who fucked up this time?

>> No.70564266

>>70563968
Irys asked them for sex on twitter.

>> No.70564467

>>70563968
>Don't know what people keep calling FWMC babies
Because they don't watch them. 90% of the complaints and catalog schizophrenia about FuwaMoco comes from anons who have never watched a single second of their streams outside of MAYBE a single clip.
Threads like these make it painfully obvious. I always see literal walls-of-text psychoanalyzing fuwamoco, and every single time, the information is wrong or pure headcanon. They always end up falling back to "w-well they're just annoying!!!!" which is always funny to see

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>>70564467
You get used to it...

>> No.70564868

>>70564262
Enna did by saying too much during her 7 hour stream where she got mogged by doki's charity, Also Millie returned to twitter in order to profess her need to fuck elira, Replying to literally hundreds of bots in the process with affirmations, and also the stocks went BRRRRR all the way back to pre google pixel collab

>> No.70565477

>>70564467
Why would I give something a chance of watching if I am under the predisposition that I will not enjoy that thing? I will just continue to not watch it, and if others around me seem to be watching it and enjoying it, I will tell them they are wrong and give any excuse I can to justify my actions.

>> No.70566138

>>70564467
Now, now ruffian. That wall of text makes you sound cranky about a lighthearted joke. Maybe it's time for a nice song from your oshis before your nap? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uszj2OHRtME

>> No.70566148

>>70564467
I don't need to watch them, I just need to know they're cute and that Fuwawa may be molesting Mococo.

>> No.70566224

Retard, they've been planning this since before joining Hololive

>> No.70566560

>>70566148
>Fuwawa may be molesting Mococo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SykbiAj1d3U

>> No.70566878

>>70566138
Fuwamoco actually has one of the best loli kami covers.

>> No.70567183

>>70566878
Big props to Fuwawa for really playing up the creepy otaku voice.

>> No.70567264

>>70566560
>halloween is the night where you smell your sister's neck
AAAAAAAHHHHH I WISH SISTERS WERE REAL

>> No.70567358

>>70566560
>They commented on it
They truly are one of us.

>> No.70567593

>>70566878
It was pretty funny to see them sing that live at a con.

>> No.70567611

>>70536974
>They have not had a 1 on 1 collab with ANYONE else in EN outside of Advent
It doesn't help when most EN senpais are lazy whores who don't even stream to their fans let alone steam with the new gen

>> No.70567919

>>70536540

This is the weakest bait I have ever seen.

No wonder it got so many (you)s on /vt/

>> No.70567939

What I wanna know is what Kiara really thinks about FWMCs ambitions for being JP idols. She once had that dream and was thoroughly crushed under it. Does she envy their nativity, is she jealous of their relative success compared to her? Is she genuinely worried about them?
It's seems at least that Kiara has decided to settle for the pseudo idol status she has with hololive and her cats.

>> No.70568754

>>70567939
Their friendship go way back.

>> No.70569209

>>70567939
Are they really trying to be idols? With the amount of unseiso stuff they do it seems more like they're a couple of otaku.

>> No.70570345

>>70566560
original:
stop touching the monitor
FUWAMOCO.mp4:
>stop touching the m
genius editing

>> No.70570499

>>70567939
I thought FWMC already did some time as unsuccessful idols in Japan

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>> No.70571305

>>70569209
>With the amount of unseiso stuff
Retard, idols do unseiso stuff all the time. Look at AKB48 TV programs.

>> No.70572770

>>70570499
Yes, but it didn't end as bad as what happened to Kiara.

>> No.70574265

>>70558207
what about Bae?

>> No.70574504

>>70547694
>suck miles of JP cock
Why is it always so sexual with you faggots?

>> No.70574795

>>70570499
>>70572770
It was pretty good actually. They get to perform at TIF.

>> No.70574987

>>70543218
Even Ina is moving to Japan.
I think in EN, the only ones that haven't moved are the ones that can't or don't want to (no need).
Ame (has a fuck ton of pets and guns)
Kiara (doesn't want to)
Gura (doesn't need to)
Mumei (finishing up school)
Fauna (family I think)
Kronii (doesn't want to)

>> No.70578386

>>70546557
>if they're attractive IRL.
They aren't, like at all.

>> No.70579003

>>70549486
>easiest language
English.

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