/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

If there's gonna be another graduation this month, tomorrow will likely be the day

[Anonymous No.]

There isn't going to be a graduation this month. I know you want your rrats to be true but you are just schizo.

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>>70518848
You're right. It's gonna be a termination for the blackbox stream.

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Tomorrow would make sense as the first Monday of the month.

It's not based on rats, either. Several high profile graduations and low morale are just overall fact in Nijisanji.

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>>70518757
I hope it is one of the good ones escaping and not one of the bad ones getting out. The shit should stay in the sewer. All eyes will be on whether new graduates collab with either Sayu or Doki. Because if they don't, they were likely part of the problem.

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>>70518757
Rosemi, come home.

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Scarle, Rosemi, Luca, and Petra are strong contenders.

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>>70518757
First, even if that was planned now you've jinxed it.
And second half of the month after financial report is more likely.

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Financial report and investor meeting is March 14th, they are not going to graduate anyone until they survive that at least even if it makes sense to do that tomorrow. It would set off flight responses from investors without a solid plan to how to turn around EN branch if they plan that at all.

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>>70518757
>tomorrow will likely be the day
Who?

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>>70518848
How about next month? and the month after? Lol why deny the inevitable stupid.

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>>70519469
True I can see this as the primary reason. After that though they can't keep a hold of them when their contracts are about to expire.

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>>70521910
What contracts? Just tell Niji to suck dick and try to enforce it without a license to operate in your country's borders. They have no power beyond seething and doxxing, and that power is waning.

[Anonymous No.]

Yup. Any day now. Just like someone was gonna graduate by March. But they were actually gonna graduate tomorrow. And when no one leaves by tomorrow, it'll be in the next two weeks.

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>>70518757
there can't be graduations right before the end of the fiscal year

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>>70518757
T-two more weeks amirite holosister

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>>70518757
who even watches these garbage talents? interest only happens during graduations or drama

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>>70522733
Maybe they'll graduate when Dokibird finally falls to 3view as the sisters predicted.

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>>70518757
Any graduation announcements will have to wait until after the financial report that drops this month

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>>70522733
>2 graduations isn't a lot
>Pomu will never leave
>Luca confirmed that there won't be more graduations for a long time
>Selen is just taking a break, leave her alone you parasocial fucks

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>>70518848
If there isn't it's just because they postponed it to lay low during the drama. Don't conveniently forget about surplus of graduations and terminations pre-Selen

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>>70518757
I say the 5th

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>>70518757
Every day you make this thread and every day there's no new graduations. Anons were swearing on their mothers lives that someone would leave on the 1st and it was nothing but crickets. I know dramafags were expecting a domino effect to occur and a new talent would leave every week but reality doesn't work like that. We're back at the regular schedule of a talent leaving every 3-6 months.

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>>70522807
Truly NijiEN's main content.

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>>70518757
PLEASE
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if the rumors of long graduation delays are true, people who put in their request in late December might not be getting out for months. I'm not holding my breath.
do we know when contracts get renewed? that might be more interesting.

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>>70518757
hope its the leader of the clique

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>>70519364
>jinxed it.
Retards who belong this strongly in meme magic belong on /pol/.

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>>70518757
Following previous years, March and April won’t have graduations because of Japanese fiscal year.

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Graduation que suggestions:

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>>70518757
I was promised a graduation or collapse on the 1st of March, what happened to that

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You know something big is happening when NDF are coming out in full force like this.

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>>70527697
You trusted the internet, that was your mistake. Most likely will be a slow bleed, not a spectacular explosion, as they have shareholder meeting coming up.

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>>70527813
>everything I don't like is NDF!
Shizo

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>>70521522
me...

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>>70528007
>schizo
Do you not take english classes, intern? Company can't afford it?

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>>70518757
We had this same thread last week, and the week before. They always claim it's going go happen on Friday/Monday, and then nothing happens. No one's graduating, find a better use of your time

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>>70523362
Thank you for the input, organ. How far are you going to push them back to distance it from the "dramabird" incident? Genuinely wondering, because this might take a while.

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>>70518757
It'll be a big name but it won't be from Nijisanji.

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>>70527813
Nah, they're only out in force because the OP is NDF. Anyone with a working brain called "sometime after the financial report" once the "Feb 23 leak" turned out to be fake.

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I pity all the livers who are on the graduation queue, they're getting their date delayed for one month if not more

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>>70522933
Don't forget
>Scarle is taking a break but magically returned after the #WhereIsScarle thing

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>>70524778
Back then it was assumed that not renewing your contract would be all that was needed, and that contracts were signed maybe 2-3 months prior to joining the company. But if what Mysta and Pomu said is true and that they put in their graduation notice months in advance, leaving the company doesn’t seem to be that easy an endeavor either. It’s in stark contrast to Vox “Leaving is always an option” Acoomer, it makes you wonder if the management deliberately drags their feet just so the talents give up and decide stay instead.

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>>70522733
It would be real funny if someone graduates the day after finantial report, not gonna lie

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>>70522807
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

Wouldn't the vast majority of those "likely to graduate" have put their request this month? So if you were to take Rosemi as an example, they will only let her go around summer.
If someone were to quit this month or the next, it would have to be a liver who was showing signs of not giving a fuck anymore since last year, like Pomu or Kyo, and I don't think there' was anyone else like them.

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>>70528747
I think Fulgur or Vox would be perfect candidates desu. Fulgur seems like the type that would be fed up with running damage control for NijiEN, and IIRC one of his “jokes” last year during an emo karaoke-totsu was “I’m done with NijiEN” after barely anyone outside of Kotoka showed up in chat, want to say this was late spring-early summer. People post also here about how he genuinely took breaks from NijiEN’s discord and that it seems like he’s not interested in Reimu’s HWITE PPL jokes anymore either, probably because sick of being the whipping boy of a bunch of menheras that killed the company. If anyone were to graduate, he would seem like a case of of “trying to be an adult, but gave up knowing who he’s working with”.
Vox on the other hand mentioned in 2023 how he legit sat on his balcony like a melodramatic ponce and realized he will never be as happy as he was in 2022. And last year he showed multiple signs of hating his fanbase, too. I don’t think he also got certain merch while the remaining Luxiem members did, too.

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>>70529156
Yeah, my money is on Fulgur. Vox seems more like he would only care to save his own ass and dart off into the horizon. Good points anon.

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>>70518757
what part of earnings call do you not understand, flip?

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>>70518757
Elira, Enna, Millie

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>>70518757
It's going to be Elira.
She'll get terminated Zaion style with the company scapegoating her for everything. This way they'll save a lot of money on restructuring and with her reputation being in the gutter there is no fear of Selen-style backlash. It'd also be easier to convince the stockholders that she's become a low-value asset. Easiest way to save money and regain public trust.

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>>70529156
>barely anyone outside of Kotoka showed up in chat
What's the deal with Kotoka, outside of the Zaion situation people tend to paint her as a nice girl.

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>>70532487
keep seething dokifag. Elira is fine, she'll be back like nothing happened just like Enna. Ban Doki, Selen, black etc from chat, sub for 90days+ chat for awhile til the thirsty dramaniggers die, then on with the show.

[Anonymous No.]

Theres no graduation for nijien this month.
This month is reserved for jp and id branch. i think they will announced it in next week

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>>70533926
>seething
sorry we are having fun watching her stream. keep coping elirafags, she wont comeback streaming anymore

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>>70518757
Most likely, they need to get past this financial year, which is closing out. And talk to shareholders first. If there are more graduations lined up, then expect a slow trickle to not cause a panic. They have to do it that way to not further tank the optics of their operational stability.

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>>70533926
Man didn't you hear about the investor meeting? They want to set an example of their bad behaviour, Elira, Vox, Millie or Enna are on the sacrificial chopping block. Hell even Uki and Wilson got mentioned for being stupid during a time of crisis.

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>>70518757
rosemi or petra save yourselves please

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>>70534161
The longer they hold onto talent the larger a possible yab will occur if major delays occur. To the point that 4-6 talents could unite their lawyers together.

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>>70534426
That is not a bad point, no doubt people within the company who watched the whole dokibird drama, are considering making their own plans. If things flare up again, I could see that.

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>>70518757
Give it a moment OP, they just lost 2 big members. No doubt graduations are on standby for now.

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>>70518757
Sigh... we already covered this anon...
cum sit on my lap, and lets repeat the lesson bestie.

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>>70534315
>Give Elira, Vox, Millie, and Enna Zaion styled termination letters
>They are all suffering like hell from it
>Sisters blame Dokibird for getting them terminated like this
>The corporation gets away with yet another shitshow termination by pitting the livers and the fans against each other
>Debut a new wave
Delightfully devilish Tazumi!

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>>70536920
When I got into vtubing years ago, they called him a genius. And he continues to deliver. Next wave will be a stack of white papers, and they WILL make him money.

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This week is the 30-man Tekken tournament (6 coaches, 24 participants). Among the participants are Rosemi and Vivi; and they'll technically be doing a collab with Lily Pichu, since she's also in the tournament.
So if there's any fuckery from management this week, it'll most likely be related to that.

2 big things next week: the anniversary of Zaion's termination on 3/10, and possible expiration of the related NDAs; and the quarterly earnings report on 3/14.
For 3/10, there are three possibilities:
Either Sayu will spill the beans,
or she'll just move on and keep on keeping on as she's been doing for the past year,
or she'll try to move on and keep on keeping on as she's been doing for the past year, but Niji will force her hand by saying or doing something incredibly stupid

The earnings report on 3/14 will be very interesting. It'll be 8 hours of Riku explaining EN management's fuckery to the shareholders; basically his apology video all over again, except in Business Japanese and lasting longer than 6 minutes. What happens after that is anyone's guess, but I can't imagine it includes long-term plans for the continued employment of all 31 livers currently in the EN branch.

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>>70536920
>Elira, Vox, Millie, and Enna
Aren't those the biggest names left? Investors would not be pleased if they were all fired. Better to keep them and fire more negligible talents like Rosemi and Scarle. Somebody please save them.

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>>70533825
It's likely past me coping but with her "I can't wish her well" I always interpreted it as her actually being blocked from doing so. The wording is very specific. However, I swore off NijiEN so if she is actually terrible, then I hope she stays there forever. Maybe she can be Elira's chair on any company office visits.

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>>70536920
>Give Elira, Vox, Millie, and Enna Zaion styled termination letters
>They are all suffering like hell from it
>Sisters blame Dokibird for getting them terminated like this
If this happens it's more likely that the sisters will blame Elira, Millie and Enna for besmirching Nijisanji's good reputation. So the three of them are going to get witch hunted both by antis and by sisters.
Vox will somehow be "YASSSSS KING"ed.

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>>70538076
>the anniversary of Zaion's termination on 3/10, and possible expiration of the related NDAs;
Sayu is not under NDA. She's spoken about it recently. She knows her NDA is unenforceable. She's known for a long time. https://youtu.be/cpJJxYoT1R8

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>>70523362
Not our fault NijiEN corpo is in desperation mode after fucking up their Doki termination. The rrats couldn't have predicted how much of a shit show the company would behave like. It's honestly your fault the predictions have blown out in favour of monthly break.

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>>70538821
Scarle is the biggest female monekymaker in the company, with Aia behind her.
Elira was less popular than Enna before and in her latest stream Enna had worse CCV than Rosemi. In all likelihood the current pecking order is Rosemi > Enna > Elira. Anycolor might now be more willing to negotiate with Rosemi, rather than letting her go.

[Anonymous No.]

If this is true then it's another batch of Niji ID, most of them already stream on their PL waiting for Graduation like Bobon

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>>70539173
rosebuds we won
nooooooootroooooool always wins baybee

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>>70538846
If we assume what leaker anon (specifically >>69826569) and Luca's ex-mod are saying is true, it is extremely likely she, and some other livers, are blocked from doing so. Likewise, later in leaker anon's post, they claim the only "correct" stance on Selen is to "bemoan the damage" she has done, possibly this was done with Zaion too. Both Luca's ex-mod and leaker anon suggest that the livers have their own opinions and have distanced themselves from the situation as much as possible. Also, Sayu said she still has friends in the company but she refuses to name them because they could become targets for harassment.

[Anonymous No.]

The shareholders really ought to be informed of how many talents have requested graduation. The crook is just illegally manipulating the stock price by withholding it.

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>>70523362
>We're back at the regular schedule of a talent leaving every 3-6 months.

Is this a troll or do nijisisters really think like this

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>>70539920
Not discrediting the information she is bringing but,
is this the woman who left her husband for a 2d anime avatar and when things didn't work out, she went full scorched earth?

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>>70540400
Yep

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>>70540400
She was a discord mod, what did you expect her to be like?

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>>70540003
I wonder if it's illegal. It probably isn't, because that'd be a very specific law to have.

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>>70528513
That was so fucking weird how she randomly said she was on a break and then showed up streaming the next day

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>>70539920
She should name them and let that shit happen to implode the branch and get them out of that dumpster scam organization.

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>>70536920
Even riku fears shareholders.

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>>70540493
Definitely embed this storyline in the new season of desperate housewives if it ever comes back.

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>>70519053
Unnamed collabing with Doki and agreeing to do a cover for charity is so great and it would be retarded for any of the good ones to pass up the chance for some good publicity

[Anonymous No.]

Nah, EN is in a holding pattern until June.
I will 100% assure that.

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>>70519469
Imagine the rage of the investors when there's a graduation right after March 14th and they realize Riku lied to them about the state of EN
LMAO

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>>70518757
Nagi is graduating to be my wife

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>>70540400
she was with him way before that you fucking retard
they were vrchat ERPing

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>>70523361
Thats my birthday and would honestly be the best gift

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>>70518757
>Nijisanji
Kimoi.

[Anonymous No.]

"No more graduations/terminations until summer" sounds like copium to me. Pomu, Selen and Kyo were booted back to back in less than 3 months

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>>70540400
>is this the woman who left her husband for a 2d anime avatar and when things didn't work out, she went full scorched earth?
qrd?

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>>70532487
This would unironically be the best course of action. Pretending clique management doesn't exist isn't going to work anymore so the best option is to admit it, fire the ring leader, and promise restructuring

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>>70541319
She was Luca's mod and leaked the Aster-Scarle debacle which originated the *sigh* meme

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>>70540563
I honestly cannot believe that a single person above Riku does not have the foresight to look into Nji themselves or have someone within in the company, or even outside, find information. Entire board probably speak 5 words of engrish between all of them. It baffles me how people with this experience and money don't make sure their company is running smoothly.
You can't even lie and say the all talents were all at fault because they'll ask what retards are managing them? Do you lie again and throw someone under the bus? Do you lie and say you already got rid of the managers and they sucked so you need nip drones?

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>>70541477
I want an oldskool witch burning honestly.
A livestreamed event of this little brown goblin on a stack of firewood - and once donations reach a certain number vox is forced to set his dick on fire and start the inferno with his erection.

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>>70541477
>promised restructuring
It's not gonna work if what the job application postings show. No one who speaks four languages will apply for 8 bucks an hour. Riku can brownnose all he wants, when 2025 shows that nothing has changed the EN branch will finally die

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>>70539920
Take this with a grain of salt, but in a thread about a week ago, someone claimed that Scarle’s PL account visited Sayu in chat.

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>>70541477
Anon, I specifically used "scapegoat" to indicate that even if she had a role, it's a minor one. The whole idea was that the black screen streamed has prepped Elira to be thrown to the wolves, so Riku doesn't have to spend money fixing the actual problems (that will remain after he terminates her).

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>>70541780
I'd need screenshots or timestamps to believe that.

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>>70542057
This. If nothing else, to know where to follow Scarle once she hopefully sooner rather than later gets the fuck out.

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>>70541780
Speaking of Scarle, weren't her and Fulgur friends before they got into NijiEN? If that rrat about two members graduating (I think? It could've been terminations) is true it might be those two leaving.

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>>70542057
Again, take it with a grain of salt. I asked in that thread, and I got 0 response.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait..."Noor" was a guy???

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>>70529156
It was worse that that.

Fulgur had an Open VC Karaoke where the point was to have Him sing with other NijiEN people that would appear. But nobody (Except Kotoka who showd up to vhat and didn't realize the purpose of the stream at first) showed up.
At least he attempted to turn it around by joking about it and changing to an Emo song karaoke to fit the "I hate EN" bit, don't think he got hung up on the absence but it was an akward day to use the niji generals.

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>>70539173
I think its so funny that the clique rrat was able to completely change their popularity rankings, making it actually viable for Niji to terminate the clique
lmao

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>>70540003
Imagine if the stockholders have Yaluza ties. Riku better prepare his asshole to be stretched

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>>70542298
Yes. What surprises me is that Fulgur may have potentially broken NDA by posting a screenshot between himself and Scarle under his PL by telling everyone that she was “alright” and was taking a “break”.
I mean this in a good way, but the sheer audacity of Fulgur’s actions during this time while Nijisanji was under heavy scrutiny by not only QRTing Elira’s with a statement that completely dissented from the rest of livers who QRT’d it, but also potentially breaking NDA to show Scarle and then starting #HugsForScarle has imo gone largely unnoticed.

[Anonymous No.]

Considering the second largest owner of AnyColor stock is Sony, and they just completely closed their own vtuber group a few days ago, I wonder whether they're getting cold feet about the entire vtubing industry?

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>>70518757
sneak the announcement during Miko's 3D live on the 5th

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>>70543512
I wonder if Fulgur was acting on his own to help Scarle during the #HugsForScarle thing. Gotta think that Scarle's mental state was absolutely fucked during that fiasco.

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>>70542298
Yes. What surprises me is that Fulgur may have potentially broken NDA by posting a screenshot between himself and Scarle under his PL by telling everyone that she was “alright” and was taking a “break”.
I mean this in a good way, but the sheer audacity of Fulgur’s actions during this time while Nijisanji was under heavy scrutiny by not only QRTing Elira’s with a statement that completely dissented from the rest of livers who QRT’d it, but also potentially breaking NDA to show Scarle was ok and then starting #HugsForScarle has imo gone largely unnoticed.

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>>70542127 (me)
Nevermind, just did the reps

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>>70544091
What was so different about Fulgur's QRT compared to the others?

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>>70538821
seconded

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>>70541287
Pomu was already gone and Kyo had already made his graduation public when Selen's termination dropped. If it had gone like Zaion's then there probably would have the next in line be graduating by now. But the backlash has caused them to freeze everyone (hence why Luca hasn't been fired either) for fear of shareholders losing too much confidence in the company.

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>>70539173
If she stays in that dumpster fire it's career death.

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>>70540834
They honestly should lurk more.

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>>70544075
It most likely was. Scarle is almost always in her own bubble and rarely collabs unless if it’s with Iluna due to how extremely shy she is. Iirc, other than Hex, Fulgur, and the rest of Iluna, she was friends with Nina, Zaion, Selen, and Kyo.
She took Nina graduating hard, and after Selen’s termination, she had two or three membership streams where she was just bawling her eyes out for like 30 to 45 minutes trying to tell her chat along the lines of “hopefully everything is going to be alright”, “thank you for supporting me despite everything that’s happened”, and “I’ll always be grateful for your guys support”

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>>70544528
Rosemi's CCV has gone up, I assume from all the Rosebuds parading her as an infallible flower. it's not unthinkable for her to grow inside NijiEN from this.

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Riku will postpone all graduations until after the 3/14 report

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>>70544312
Fuglur’s was different in the fact that in his tweet that he didn’t tell his followers to watch it and instead recommended it, hours after the stream was over.
QRD: “I ask you to take your time to consider all the information that is available”, “do not attack others” and “please treat all with care and understanding”.
His statement was incredibly similar to Doki’s in her return stream, and none of the other livers used similar language in their statements.

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>>70544312
He retweets heavily so I can't find it but most of them said some variation of 'I stand behind/support my colleagues and their statement on behalf of us' whereas he said something more like 'This is a difficult time for everyone involved, treat people well and be level-headed'
>>70544075
>>70545048
She buckles under any stress so I figure that the moment the heart comment thing got spread she crumbled.
Since they've been friends for a while and there are skinwalking accusations the two of them probably decided to take that action themselves and be vague enough about identities to not be in real trouble.

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>>70544091
>QRTing Elira’s with a statement that completely dissented from the rest of livers who QRT’d it
It was a safe blanket statement no different from others.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Kotoka bails sooner or later
>Does not retweet the black stream
>Makes a very weaselly version of the "thank you artist tweet"
>says she'll finish her projects, but says streaming will be sparse

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>>70518848
You know what? How about we just tally up how many graduations happen at the end of the year instead? At what number do you think would be a safe and normal amount of people graduating within that period of time? Counting Pomu, Selen, and Kyo as the first 3 of the year. I’m assuming that’s still within the safe range, right? 2 graduations and a termination right at the start of the year?

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>>70545739
Honestly, I think you're reading too much into it. He didn't seem like a bad guy and the PL stuff is too smart for Niji's PR team to do something like that.
>>70545800
Nah, she's just moving to JP with Meloco. She's doing fine, sadly. I'm still pissed about the zaion thingn though.

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>>70518757
all of nijien should graduate and join prism or tsunderia

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>>70539543
Congratulations I hope Rosemi stays in Niji for a long time and all her suprchats and memberships are paid for in ARS

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>>70546484
>Nah, she's just moving to JP with Meloco
Unless JP is the same shitshow on the inside, except Japanese culture keeps the lid on the bullshit going public. God knows Pomu actually loved Nijisanji before joining.

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>>70546979
Chii-chan, a gen 1, leaving the company to immediately stream indie the very next day should tell you all you need to know about the state of JP. To say nothing of the other graduations.

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>>70518757
If theres gonna be another graduation this month, it will likely happen before next month.

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>>70533825
Backstabbing whore

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>>70518757
no graduations until stock goes back to 4k

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>>70518757
Give it a moment, they just axed some of their OGs

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>>70518926
While I absolutely think there are people who want to graduate now, I could see Niji either going "No, we're going to try to scare you into staying by giving you a list of consequences if you leave" or alternatively going "We'll give you a bunch of extra benefits if you hold off on that for another month"

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>>70549301
Problem is, what happens when the contracts tick down. Graduating 5-6 people at once?

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Wild prediction…no graduation cuz tomorrow it may be grim.
Sony has basically pulled out of the market with Prism. They may decide to sell their quota to grt rid of the dead weight.
If that happens, the stock is gonna crash and everyone will likely follow Sony out. May be a surprise ending if so.

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>>70549301
Honestly, around early 2023 lines up with many of the different plans she had cancelled around the same time. Since the MV had been in production for over a year, it would make sense that she would decide at that point to make a "final song project" for her fans using the same song she graduated the first time with. If this is the case, then Niji might have been dragging their feet on that MV just to delay her graduation and "punish" her for wanting to leave, with the indefinite privating being a final act of "Fuck You."

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>>70550166
Nah man, the plan was sabotage her to create liability. Selen was too famous and they eere bleeding already. They needed her to look like “negligible” loss to the shareholders.
Never forget ALL evidence we got and Riku itself declared management was corrupt and incompetent. The rrats are about the livers, everything about management isreal.

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>>70518757
nobody gets fired until the shareholder meeting imo

[Anonymous No.]

I thought it was Friday, since Pomu and Kyo announced their graduations on the first Friday of January/February?

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>>70550122
I think Nijifest is in Q3, if Sony is going to dump, they'll wait for Nijifest to bump the stock.

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>>70550395
seeing how viewership was already tanking before selen's scandal... i dont think q3 earnings will look that good either.
i'm betting on stagnation (ie same gross profits/operating profit) despite nijifest, which leads to mass sell offs.
trade volume of the stock is already absurdly low, which was why the price sharply dropped on frida.

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>>70550395
That’s even more grim, because it looks like the perfect moment to dump. Maybe someone should push things a bit? Sony is not gonna choose anycolor over reputation if someone links them to bad rep.

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>>70549301
>"No, we're going to try to scare you into staying by giving you a list of consequences if you leave"
Then ask them to sign a contract if they want those consequences to "disappear" when they go.

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>>70528513
>>70540574
That's because they tried to stealth suspend her but called it off when people started losing their minds on Twitter. Someone in management realized it wasn't the move and cancelled it.

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>>70523362
The graduation mill is Niji's content

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>>70550722
Honestly, I could go either way on this rrat. She seems like the type who'd shut down and go to her family when something this serious gains traction, and people were hailing her as a savior because of one youtube like, which likely caused friction with management.

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>>70550501
I have no idea how they are gonna make q3 look good unless they pull some shit tomorrow. They are getting absolutely assblasted in # and they have abandoned the Reddit. Twitter gets levels equal to indie of engagement.
And somehow, you can bet there will be one moron who will buy because people love burning their money. Only Sony can fix this.

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>>70550395
call me crazy but sony will double down on niji even after the fes, any color stock will reach 5k this year.

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>>70550807
Scarle and what she’s doing now, dancing around the rules, gives full view of where they are now. They can’t suspend anyone, a second Doki would truly be Total Niji Death, it could even get all the way in Japan.

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>>70539008
You know that, and I know that, but it's possible Anycolor doesn't know that and expects her to say something, and will fuck themselves over by trying to shoot first yet again.

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>>70550869
Why tho? Literally burning money in a 3k title when they are at 13k? Why investing in Niji and cutting Prism?

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>>70550501
>i dont think q3 earnings will look that good either.
It will look better than Q2 at least.
>i'm betting on stagnation (ie same gross profits/operating profit) despite nijifest, which leads to mass sell offs.
Not a bad bet, but Nijisanji is bigger than it's EN branch. This isn't to say JP is doing wonders (it's not), but the company still has enough ammo in the warchest to try new things or push out a bran new EN brand name - it worked for Brave Group. Sony might decide the investment was small enough to ride it out.
>>70550512
This is somewhat true.
>>70550869
They have no avenue to reach that stock evaluation. EN is shrinking and if even if they go absolutely crazy on whitewashing their image, that's not happening for months, maybe not they're well into 2025. If they decide to try that.
On the JP side the market is saturated and acquiring the facilities and tech to compete with Hololive is going to take at least an year.
In the best case scenario 2024 is a damage control year for Anycolor.

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>>70550869
They closed their own vtuber company a few days ago though.

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>>70522733
>Pomu is a Nijisanji fan at heart, she'd never leave

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>>70540834
That would be grounds for a lawsuit against the company for misrepresenting what they want to do with the EN branch financially, I doubt Riku and the rest of the C suite are that stupid. Either they tell investors they have a plan to turn around EN and/or they rip off the bandage all at once and bleed out with a mass termination/graduation all at once. I am more inclined to think they will say they are terminating people, they will try and invest to turn EN around and say that people want out and they will have a "transition period" where people will leave to not scare investors and see where the chips land. But I wouldn't be surprised if they omit one or more of those actions and do them quietly to not impact the stock price as much. But I think it is falling below the 30k yen level.

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>>70551090
Good take on that last point. If they are smart, they restructure and fix the leaks / reputation hit this year. Otherwise, I only see them bleeding out slowly but surely.

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>>70551090
If they somehow convince the shareholders these 3 months have been positive, I’ll be forever convinced that marketing works like the Yakuza 7 minigame.
Just throw a chicken to the when they protest and they will start clapping.

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>>70518757
My speculation is that there won't be one, not because they don't want out, but because it'll not look good for investors in the upcoming financial report. They might wanna make it look like they are stopped the bleeding on the EN side.

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>>70551229
I mean, I’ll be honest, if I was Riku I would tell the investors I’m gonna go fill homo in sea, and just show them the NDF.
That would convince even me they are gonna drain the country of money and used tampons.

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>>70551253
The financial quarter lags by 3 months, so the results being presented are from last September to December. The projections is saying what the last 3 months will be which is where investors are going to hammer Anycolor on given the Selen situation via the IR notice they sent out. There is no avoiding not talking about it.

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>>70550869
I'm not fully informed on NijiJP happenings but outside of NijiFes, do we even know if they have anything in store? NijiEN is stunlocked and is hemorrhaging numbers.

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>>70551284
Problem is tgat even with the bleeding stopped they have nothing to show. The new gens are a fiasco, they are trying to sell Vanta as a memelord but turns put that doesn’t actually attract viewers.

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>>70518757
This is what I think is going to happen. This is just speculation so take it with a grain of salt. The NijiEN branch is going to shut down and transition into a blanket NijiASIA branch. Niji knows by now that their brand in the West is dead, hell even the remaining Nijifans know this seeing as most of them are from Asia. This is why they are currently focusing on projects and events in Asia. It's all done to prepare for the inevitable transition There will be no more graduations. All of the "Livers"(Man I hate using this retarded word) will now focus on their Asian fans. This is why they are going to act like the whole bullying Selen situation never happened because they know their remaining fans(Asians) don't care because they lack morality.

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>>70551107
leaving more money for niji
>>70551472
it's the same with microsoft buying blizzard.

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>>70551472
NijiJP is in a weird situation because it’s a literal mess. They have 140 talents so eventually something works, and they even collab with Holo…but the investors don’t like it. Don’t need the # to know 140 people have saturated Japan. They need to show growth outside of it or no one is gonna invest in a title without dividends.

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>>70551532
I hope so. It'd be nice to see them just off in their own bubble away from the EN vtubing sphere, but I also hope that more of the good organs get a chance to leave before they're seriously hurt personally.

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>>70551562
Honestly if Sony buys Niji that would unironically be a good ending.
Can’t be caught in huge dramas, they know the west will boycott everything if they get mad. They will actually correct the bitches and give everyone room to grow.
Still I don’t believe it. If true they would have just done that first and merged Prism into. The bubble popped, they are seeing the graduations. They are out.

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>>70551562
except nothing proves that these failed indie groups will funnel into niji
if anything, they'll get funneled into vshojo or phase connect giving recent events

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>>70551532
I’m fairly sure that would require some contract modification that may be illegal without two side consent, so they will just drop the girls and focus on the boys.
SEA wants Luxiem, not Lazulight.

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>>70550807
She missed two streams without a word, which viewers have said is highly unusual for her, and then announced that she was going on a break before canceling it a few hours later. It all adds up if she was suspended for liking that comment.

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>>70551229
>I doubt Riku and the rest of the C suite are that stupid
Really now? Because I don't doubt it.

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>>70551904
Nah man, Riku is a piece of shit but investors have lawyers ready to eat him alive if he pulls a fast one on them. He will screw everyone but not the people with the money to fuck him back if he tries.

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>>70551740
Sony's track record with Vtuber agencies is abysmal. Maybe they won't get caught doing anything bad, but I don't think they have the know-how to run a successful one.

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>>70552960
sony will hire niji for madam web 2

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>>70518848
>mass graduations when the contracts expire
Riku loses anyway

[Anonymous No.]

Will it get overshadowed by some yab like Kyo?

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>>70518848
There's been at least one graduation a month since March of 2023, If they stop now it'd be a massive combo breaker

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>>70551229
>I doubt Riku and the rest of the C suite are that stupid.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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>>70518757
At first I thought "there is no way there is another graduation anytime soon, even if someone was meant to graduate after recent events they would wait for a better timing" but niji proved to be completely illogical and operate on levels beyond human understanding.

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>>70528007

[Anonymous No.]

So...

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They're probably going to clamp down on graduations for a while longer. They'll let the queue get longer and if someone really wants to leave they'll Terminate them and release another hit piece and blame them for the bullying that happens internally to get everyone off their backs, even if they weren't the ones to do it.

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>>70551532
They don't even need to rebrand it. They'll just continue being NijiEN but under the pretence that they will never touch the West ever again. They might even move some of the remaining NijiID and NijiKR livers to NijiEN.

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>>70566079
#NijiWORLD

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>>70566079
Are there even any notable ID talents not named Hana even left? I'm not sure how merging 3 dead branches are gonna help

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>>70566079
Oliver officially becoming NijiEN will end me.

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>>70565936
This
With Riku's announcement and job postings for EN going like crazy, i can imagine everyone still in EN is being coaxed with at least some sort of promise for 2024

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>>70566372
Selen made 2024 plans in september. Plans change.

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>>70566292
JP is doing fine, and it seems JP talents with maybe the exception of Belmont and Oliver, the rest saw EN as a neat little side project, same with ID, KR, and IN

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>>70565936
>blame them for the bullying
Seems kinda retarded, since all it takes is for Dokibird to say; "hang on, that isn't right" and the pitchforks would get turned back on niji with doubled fury.

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>>70565936
Difficulty: Doki has the receipts. She has proof of who bullied her, and we can infer that she has proof of who DIDN'T bully her.
It would be exceedingly difficult for them to fire someone for bullying Doki, if the person they fire didn't actually bully her. Especially if they expect to be able to fire their scapegoat without any consequences.

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>Selen and Pomu offer to come back
>But in exchange, Elira, Enna, Millie, Uki, and <your oshi> have to graduate immediately

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>>70566555
Maybe, but at the same time, Doki still hasn't come out and said that there even was actual bullying, despite all the evidence. They could take and just quietly graduate/terminate some people and let the public decide.

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>>70518848
this is gonna age well

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>>70566789
This is literally only negatives.

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>>70565936
They're on contracts, if their contract is up then it's over. If they've got something lined up after well, what's Niji going to do?
And if I'm in the queue this is how I'd handle it. I'm half assing everything. Meetings? not showing up. Streams? Bare minimum. I'll be using my time to setup my fanbase to come with me once I leave if I plan on being a chuuba still. Stream once a month at best, Tummy hort. Get Gura'd cunts. Disciplinary action? Try me motherfucker. You need me more than I need you. Eat my ass. Sink your stock price even more cunts

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I didn't realize Selens graduation was scheduled internally for February until today. That was was pretty much the only part about the MV rrat that I had me doubting its validity. It's clear as day now.

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>>70518848
We already know there's a long queue of people waiting to graduate. Why delay the inevitable?

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>>70568883
Investors and the stock price. It's basically trying to not get people to panic and rush the fire exit here when Anycolor is in such deep financial straits.

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>>70568883
They have a financial report in less than two weeks and are trying to reduce the number of events that could tank the stock price until then

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>>70566589
>>70566555
They just have to be vague about it. "We found that this liver was involved with bullying of livers internally" and everyone else will fill in the blank as Doki but Niji leaves the door open to say it had nothing to do with her, despite wanting everyone to think it does for their own deflection.

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>>70569183

im surprised the tubers in the que to leave aren't just not streaming anymore. how many Niji vtubers are literally MIA or running on easy mode right now? ive heard scarle is just hanging out with chat after taking an "absence".

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>>70569420
They might want to stay active so they can be sure of taking their audience with them

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>>70569228
Jesus that wording will set off a firestorm again and most definitely tank share price.
Vague is " Due to creative differences and a change in direction of NijiEN, we have come to an agreement with XYZ will be leaving on XYZ Date. We wish XYZ the best on their future endeavours, Graduation stream will be on XYZ date" Anons need to learn how to PR.

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>>70529156
This… makes him sound like one of the leakers, who was keeping others at arms length
Also, the fact that he writes a lot (just from looking at his channel, I don’t really know how any of them act) kind of lines up with the cadence of the speaker. The other guys seem a bit too dumb to me

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>>70569520
They can just have their chat moderators do what Doki's did at the end - just spam "SUBSCRIBE TO (roommate)" in the free chat waiting room in the last hours before their graduation.

A handful of her mods said "I don't care if Niji sues me for breaking my NDA, subscribe to Dokibird!", and all of the rest said "I'm not even under an NDA, so they CAN'T sue me! Subscribe to Dokibird!" No reason for the other livers and their mods not to follow suit on their way out, especially if the mods aren't under NDA.

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>>70569228
You don't think her lawyer isn't on call for the lookout for something shady like this? This would be direct defamation if they even imply a false narrative and would be contested by Doki on Twitter. Additionally, this could bring an actual case because now it's a public statement relating to their finances and public securities law do not like if you lie and stretch the truth. But I mainly only doubt it because HQ and Anycolor even though they blundered their communications have been fairly neutral and accommodating that things ended this way. They had not explicitly threw her under the bus in the same way management at the EN branch and other talents at the company have behaved via tweets and that black screen stream.

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>>70570251
They've probably stripped mod powers in chat from everyone not emplyed by the company. that's what a smart company would do. Also from what I've been told there's 2week subscriber mode enabled so how much moderating do they need. Not going to look myself as I don't want to contribute to padding their stats.

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>>70551848
seeing how a lot of these girls are retarded enough to sign contracts without running them through a lawyer, it wouldn't matter much

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>>70570093
Buddy why are you doing nijisanji's job for them?

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>>70570501
>the only mods are niji employees
So what you're saying is that every chatroom is completely unmoderated because niji is way too cheap to actually pay people to mod? Certainly tracks with the absolute state of the subreddit.

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>>70570501

>that's what a smart company would do

this is Njiji we're talking about. their IQ is somewhere between room temperature and a small pest rodent.

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>>70518848
kek

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>>70523339
Wonder if the queue is getting bigger and they'll have no choice but to do double graduations?

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>>70571899
I'm pretty sure a rodent has more than 39 IQ, this is insulting to rodents

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>>70569420
The claim floating around is that Niji has been waving financial penalties around as a threat against Livers who get too pushy about graduation. Additionally, newer Livers probably have the millstone of their debut debts hung around their necks. There's probably also concern about Nijisanji informally blacklisting them (though I'm not sure how many other corpos will pay Niji's claims any mind after the Selen fiasco).

Frankly, what should happen is the Livers who want to leave should just get together and collectively refuse to stream anymore until graduation is announced. Keeping people literally trapped in the company is a great way to manufacture more Selen/Zaion meltdowns.

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>>70576137
what should happen is Riku Tazumi's butler should find Riku dangling by his own intestines off the side of his yacht

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>>70576137
The last time livers tried to unionize, Anycolor cancelled their AR live.

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>>70577632
And things got so much worse for the branch as a whole after that with numbers going down, morale being in the trenches and people graduating
I'm sure it's in AC's interest to do that shit again and by that I mean please that'd be so funny

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>>70576137
>The claim floating around is that Niji has been waving financial penalties around as a threat against Livers who get too pushy about graduation

i can't even count how many lawsuits they're opening themselves up to with that.

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>>70578928
You assume they care about that. Given recent competency levels its obvious that they don't. Very likely they EN management just gets to do whatever they want since JP doesn't pay attention to them.

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>>70575053
graduation collabs. do it, create a new meta.

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>>70578928
but who is going to sue them? suing a corporation is generally a pretty bad idea even if its likely that you will win.

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>>70545413
No, it's sisters that have finally started watching the girls to help with the cause(tm).
They were coordinating on nyfco. It's hilarious too, since if you go back 1 year, they were all seething and kvetching about the girls that had idol qualities, especially pomu and rosemi, and wrote endless hate posts about them. 1 year ago the doxsisters absolutely LOVED Selen because she played with the boyz and helped Vox incline when Luxiem launched.

They did an 180 so quickly they must have gotten whiplash.

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>>70576137
>There's probably also concern about Nijisanji informally blacklisting them (though I'm not sure how many other corpos will pay Niji's claims any mind after the Selen fiasco).
Corpo's will stop caring if you keep blasting
>NIJISANJI REFUSED TO PAY ITS CONTRACTED DUES
>and also failed to even get someones name right on an NDA
at full volume.

Or point out how their stock has sunk below 3100 even after the Google collab started.

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>>70579763
It's because they're all dirty chinks with no loyalty. CCP is the only thing stopping China from descending into anarchy with how these snakes behave.

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>>70568883
Damage control.
>>70518757
I think it's this month when anycolor's quarter financial reports come out, so if anycolor is smart. They are not going to termiante or graduate anyone this month to save face towards teh investors and make them looks like everything is fine.

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>>70579457

Niji won't do shit.

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>>70546190
>Wait until the end of the year
But that would require bored mfr's to stop posting these threads every other day

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>>70580238

the clique literally posts on /vt/ everyday so hard we could extrapolate their sleep schedule and i'm not sure the Nijisanji lawyers know they're doing that.

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elira nor anyone for that matter will be terminated, if elira gets booted out enna, millie, reimu and finana will be gone as well anyone who stayed loyal to elira, that would only leave just a handful of talents that will make the en branch to limp into a merger with the jp side and then there would be no more en branch, best they can do is act like nothing happened and reel the leashes on their talents to not fuck up again, specially going after Doki...

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>>70519053
Sayu kekekek

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>>70518757
Rosemi will finally be free..

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>>70539920
I find it strange that luca didn't tell the crazy milf what was going on with selen if everything was real

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>>70581525
Why would Luca care about the Selen situation until it exploded? From what we can tell, Luca only dumps his problems on the menhera mod. Selen wasn't his problem so he wouldn't have anything to say.

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>>70581525
They broke up long before the harassment started becoming a serious problem for her, if we go by selen's timeline for starting the doc. It was likely still going on in some form, but either hadn't escalated yet, or she was still coping that it'd get better if she just continued being a good little soldier.

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>>70576137
>The claim floating around is that Niji has been waving financial penalties around as a threat against Livers who get too pushy about graduation.
It's called a Liquidated Damages clause. Nearly all employment contracts have them for different types of breaches. It simply states that you agree to pay the company a pre-defined amount of money that is an "estimate" of what your breach of contract would cost them. It ensures employees can't fuck around without finding out. Not including a liquidated damage clause for a given breach event means that an employer would have to go to court and fight a case proving how much damage was done before he would see any recourse. It's pain in the ass for everyone involved. So including agreed upon amounts in the contract saves a lot of headache.

Now, strictly speaking, the clause is unenforceable in many jurisdictions IF the estimate isn't genuine. That is to say, they can't slap a big ole number in there just to fuck with you. If it asks for far more than the damage to the company would actually be, it cannot be enforced. However, companies usually try to get around this by having the next line in the contract state that you agree that the estimate is genuine. It's a nice little loophole. It means you can't argue they are being overly harsh once they go after you for damages. Because you already agreed, in writing, that the number was fair.

In the case of someone ending their fixed-term contract early, the estimated amount would likely be defined as $X/day remaining in the contract term. So as an example, your employment contract could estimate that you are worth $500/day to the company. If you sign the contract, and then decide to quit 100 days before your contract is over, you would owe them $500 x 100 = $50,000. I could not even begin to hazard a guess on what Anycolor's numbers would actually be, but I hope that explains the concept a little. It's also certainly possible that they are incompetent enough to not include the clause to begin with. There is no bar too low for these people to trip over.

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>>70581787
If sayu's claim about the secret second contract is accurate, I wouldn't doubt that contract bullshit is the one thing their lawyers actually did right.

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It's so upsetting to see irys doing a guess the guest stream meanwhile nijien is playing guess the graduation.
I am a big fan of nijien so sad to see it fail this way

[Anonymous No.]

I want to know who is the leaker it has to be someone who hates niji the only way to know is for someone to start a false rumor and see who takes the bait. I think it's Alban

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>>70581948
It's kyo. I want it to be kyo. He's a snake and I want to get him in trouble so he forever leaves the vtuber world.

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>>70581614
>>70581623
I know they broke up before but more than a problem is a gossip for me is a slight proof that the problems were more corporate than between talents.

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>>70581902
i was a fan of niji as long as pomu believed in it

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>>70582100
Oh you can get all that from just Selen then. She had many, many projects that got axed or delayed to all hells. On top of that, at Niji you're literally not allowed to hire extra managers or assistants, so she was stuck organizing everything herself. The biggest apologies iirc were the costume contest where management refused to let her have a cash prize out of her own pocket, the tournament that got cancelled and she had to go on twitter and explain that "due to my actions, I won't be able to organize an international tournament again", and there was a time she streamed Resident Evil 4 for 2 full streams, about 8 hours of content before being told that she couldn't do it anymore and thus had to delete all of the videos.

OH YEAH! Early on in her career when NijiKR was still going on, they used to do whatever songs they wanted at unarchived karaoke. So she asked management if she could do that too, and it turned out KR management had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA that KR was doing that, so they got banned from doing that on top of saying no to selen.

There's also a fuck ton of corporate bullying in Zaion's document.

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>>70541780
>>70542057
>>70542127
>>70542459
Open wide >>69056628
I think her comment was deleted to protect her, I remember seeing it in live chat

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>>70518757
10 more days before Anycolor's next financial report.
There will be an announcement soon after.

Somebody tell me how to short.

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>>70533926
There will be no chat interaction then. There will only be a few dedicated followers but anyone with a brain or decency will be gone. And no, none of the sisters will be there because they don't even watch streams.

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>>70582469
Holy fuck. Jesus christ she's such a good egg. Every day I learn something better about her.

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>>70582592
You find a broker that lets you buy financial derivatives like puts and calls. Puts give you the option to sell a stock at a specific price to a sucker, so the more value the stock loses the more money you make. (In this case you are betting the price will decrease.)
You can also sell calls that give someone else the right to buy your stocks for a starting fee (you are betting that the price won't increase). This is risky because losses can be virtually infinite so what you do is sell calls at a lower price and buy calls at a higher price so there is a max loss you can incur.
>t. I'm a retard and any information here could be wrong.

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>>70545441
Omg, he's being a stealth good egg.
>Scarle, chaotic good
>Fulgur, lawful good

Captcha: DAD WP8

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>>70582903
I…may have got that wrong but I’m fairly sure the only scenario where that is legal is when you bet on a title to crash.
Anycolor crashing after a buyout would be devastating for them. No one would be convinced to reinvest in a tainted company.

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>>70582469
>it's real
Imagine your talents hating your company this much. Riku has straight up ignored every warning, red flag and opportunity to turn this yacht around.

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>>70582903
Thank you. Have to do some research to fully understand what I just read.

[Anonymous No.]

Today is the one year anniversary of this audition.
Nijisanji works fast. Let's celebrate!

[Anonymous No.]

Today is the two-year anniversary of Nijisanji's English VTuber auditions.
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1499610591953969153
Let's celebrate!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70550122
The thing is though, that Sony Music still have their other group with VEE.

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>>70582469
>isreal
Scarle is saddled with too much retards who give her too much money, the money forces the management to hold her hostage, jesus christ. She can blatantly break rules without having any real power over other talents and get no shit from management from it. Sad to say, but the only way she can get out at this point is the dissolution of EN

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>>70545739
I would want that statement run through that software that supposedly verified the second leaker’s posts

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>>70584979
Aren't there fair work commissions in most developed countries? Surely you could show your not legal contract (due to obvious shit like lack of license to operate in the country) to them and just get them to void it for you right? That'd force Niji to take it up with them instead of you if they wanted to sue, right?

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So let's theoretically say you're Elira, Enna or Millie and NijiEN goes in flames, without a NijiJP option. How do you save your indie career?
Hardmode: You can't quit streaming and you can't collab with Doki.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70586544

they can't, people know their scent now, they will not easily find a way to escape being the "i bully my coworkers into suicide" clique

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>>70534083
Could have fooled me with all the angry dokikeks on this boards with copypastas and canned arguments all prepared in advance.

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>>70586669
Suicide? Did Dokibird pass away?

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>>70586669
While it might be a problem for some people, wouldn't saying "There were allegations, but nothing came out of them" be enough to calm some people down.

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>>70586733
Nah, but just having the attempt on their resume is definitely going to be a stain. Even normieland knows how bad nijisanji vtubers are now. I'm sure they couldn't pick them out from a crowd, but the instant someone says "hey isn't that the bully" then shit will get bad, fast. Just like EDP445

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>>70586886
Not if the entire branch dissolves, clearly showing that there was not "nothing." You could just send them the charlie or mutahar video and they'd probably get disgusted as long as they have a conscience.

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>>70586733

no, doki is alive and thriving, but the clique is evil for trying.

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>>70586996
I meant it in the "nothing against me" context (because Doki isn't going to sue or point fingers), not that there wasn't anything going on. Maybe even throw the branch under the bus, as long as they don't break NDA they can probably get away with shifting some blame. I'm sure they'll be forever tainted in some peoples eyes, but some can decided that since guilty was never proven, they're going to stick around (even if they'll drop them if it ever came out they're actually guilty).

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>>70568726
That image is esoteric nonsense.

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>>70586695
Don't need to can arguments if you have a functioning brain. Only sisters need to conduct a discord strategy meeting before they can speak.

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>>70586948
That EDP guy got caught sending pictures of his turds to underaged girls while Elira has some unverifiable insinuations levelled against her. Hard to see the comparison here.

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>>70587237
Yeah, good thing I'm not a sister then.

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>>70550166
>dragging their feet on that MV just to delay her graduation and "punish" her for wanting to leave
Maybe, but it seems more like they were fucking with her to create a nice folder filled with tiny infractions to have bargaining chips against her. Just shitty things like making unreasonable timelines, that would be hard or even impossible to adhere too, and then shifting the blame onto her.
Probably would also help them immensely if the contract at any point has to get renegotiated, and the talent asks for more of a cut. They can just slap them down with threats of termination over all the "infractions".

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>>70583653
Just don't do anything retarded and don't bet money you aren't ready to lose.

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>>70587239
Yeah not the actual action, but how the man absolutely cannot get his career started up again on any streaming site because as soon as people realize who he is, they report him and he g ets banned.

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>>70587638
I doubt they're going to have dedicated haters like that. Seems like most people in the twitter replies are dramafags that'll move on to the next juicy target once things subside.

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>>70519469
>Pi day
>Clock bday mogged by anykara financial report
Holokeks just can't catch a break...

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>>70587638
Unless there is going to be a brigade out there hounding her for all eternity I don't see that happening and in any case what's stopping her from releasing all the behind the scenes details if she does run into this issue?

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>>70588153
Honestly, I hope they do. I want this all over with. I really don't care what the fuck she tries to do afterwards as long as she stays the fuck away from the people I like. She's done enough damage to their lives.

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>>70588204
I know that she did nothing wrong. I know it in my bones.

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>>70588306
NTA, but even if she did nothing wrong people like that anon might just be tired of the drama. Which is probably a bigger problem for Nijisanji, because they got mired in that shit constantly.

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It is gonna take a bit before anyone else leaves, I think graduations are on standby for now.

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>>70588306
If it turns out that none of them did anything and all of the GURRAT turns out to be hogwash, then that's lovely. I won't have anything on my conscience since I never did anything worse than shitposting here and fapping to elira BBC porn. Still never going to sub to any Niji organ until they graduate

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>>70518757
I do not really watch Nijisanji so, YIKES

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>>70588748
That's a nice post and all but
>BBC porn
Are you okay, Anon?

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>>70545739
>consider all the information
do this people fucking realize that the shitshow is happening BECAUSE people are "considering all the information"?? "All the information" being ingo nijisanji gave themselves? If they shut the fuck up literally nothing would happen.... Seems like it still didn't down on them
Or is this like a stealth jab at niji?

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>>70588890
Big Black Company. Elira loves her nijisanji family.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70589094
Current rrats say yes, this was a stealth jab at niji.

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>>70589161
No salvaging this. It's over for you.

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>>70589384
rather ballsy if so

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>>70588748
>If it turns out that none of them did anything
black screen stream still happened

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>>70589626
Yeah, it still happened and she can eventually wash her hands from it.

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>>70589626
I dunno anon, I'm willing to excuse it until we have (if we ever get) exactly what happened behind the scenes. My second thoughts are based on the fact that Nijisanji turned out to be a cartoon villain company.

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>>70589699
>Oh since we didn’t had an answer about it is fine.
I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt, but shoudn’t it be the opposite? That livers should be given a chance to not have something that makes them look like cartoon villains define them?
The thing that baffles me the most is that a lot of things could be easily solved in this mess if they would stop this idiotic idea that ghey can return to moderated streams and br fine in the long run.
Unaddressed drama is not solved, it’s just there to hit you again harder as soon as it can, and it will when they fake nothing happened.

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>>70589837
I'm pretty sure they have a "don't make us look bad" clause in their contract, and the company decides what it is that makes them look bad. I'm sure that if they could, some people would have spoken up about it and some other livers have sent as much signal as they can (I believe Ike crumpling that paper during the black screen was him trying to signal). Everything is probably on lockdown by PR and upper management and I doubt any of them can operate as normal.
Also Nijisanji released a statement calling Selen negligible, so you can imagine what they think of the rest. And that statement was specifically crafted by their HQ for shareholders. I just don't think Niji cares about the talent's individual reputation, if keeping quite can get them as a company out of this.

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>>70589676
OR....

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>>70589837
They are incapable of understanding what they did wrong. These people are defective. Because of this blind spot, the only way they would address the drama is by attacking Doki again (the absolute worst thing they could do) because they are under this delusion that defaming Doki is going to somehow save their reputation - all they need to do is MAKE people believe! The nijisisters are under the same delusion, though my hope for humanity is that a lot of them are actually being paid to not understand, rather than that there are really this many retardedly evil people.

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>>70579457
Which is why we need to keep finding rrats. We find the truth, expose it to the public, and get stock prices so low Niji won't have the money to prolong their legal battles.

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>>70590177
It's okay, you will recover from your schizobabble one day.

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>>70587883
Kronii is the most Niji HoloEN member so it tracks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70590270
And you will never recover from gaped asshole Elira lmao

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>>70590236
They cannot stop the rrats. We will uncover it all.

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Looking at how they have managed to alienate themselves to the viewers, even across platforms, I would think you can expect to see more graduations this year. They may stretch them out over a long period tho.

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>>70590321
It's okay. I forgive you, crackhead-kun.

[Anonymous No.]

Hard to tell, would not expect it so soon. As that is a terrible look.

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>>70588748
The GURRAT did not affirm that Elira was a bully, this was affirmed all on its own by the black screen stream. All the GURRAT posit is plausible motivations to do that

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>>70591163
She's not a bully.

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>>70591306
We'll see after she goes indie. If Sayu and/or Doki approve of her, she's cool. If not, she's dead to me. The council will decide her fate.

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>>70591340
Be prepared to kneel.

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>>70567099
I can't wait to post the screenshot

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>>70591340
Sayu was in the company for effectively 2 months, I doubt she's close to anyone in Nijisanji. Also kind of dumb to turn Doki into some kind of a litmus test where everyone she doesn't collab immediately with is guilty.

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>>70518757

>>70591483
>https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/174327116389855661
I wonder what it was, there was a delete tweet by Niji

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>>70592089
It's just a broken link anon, a tard did this last week as well.

[Anonymous No.]

Okay which one of you assholes made this tweet? You're a liar to make this shit appear

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>>70592319
OP of >>70592089 Enna, don't take it too seriously.

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>>70544528
Watch her thrive