/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Thank you for your time, Ms. Pendora, you're a wonderful young lady. Just one more thing--how were you able to see those classified legal documents?

[Anonymous No.]

This would have been a good thread if the average age on this board wasn't 12.

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>>70382569
Well I for one, appreciate the reference

[Anonymous No.]

I chuckled, but most people here aren't gonna get this reference.

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>>70382244
If they address me directly then I can see them, any other questions?

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>>70382569
A good thread but sadly filipino would not get the reference, that's not Vox enough for them.

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>>70382569
The oldsters drive the age average up a bit.

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>>70383059
I'm not old, you zooming fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

A reminder that Pomu loves watching old columbo episodes and even talked bout her favorite ones on stream before.

[Anonymous No.]

RIP Peter Falk. Would never have been as good of show with a different actor.

[Anonymous No.]

>You can't corrupt it. And you know why? Because to corrupt it, you've got to show how corrupt you really are.

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>>70382244
based
RIP

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>>70382569
They still air multiple episodes daily on a number of channels here in the UK.

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>>70382569
Are you going to pretend a bunch of 14 year olds didn't all watch it like a year ago because it became FoTM on netflix?

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>>70382569
zoomers love columbo

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>>70383110
That's what they all say, old man

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383487
nta
but who would know stuff like that except for 14year olds, or normies, maybe

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
i hated this shit, and he turned to an incomprehensible fuck due to all the smoking

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>>70382244
Where do you get off coming to Canada and bullying my client Detective Columbo? Do you have a warrant?
You just made a lot of false statements in an attempt to entrap my client. I'm going to ask you to leave and I'm reporting this to the Canadian authorities. Get back to California where you belong.

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>>70382244
Pomu get off /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383708
bro what

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>>70384578
being tricked into a confession isn't entrapment. Being told to do a crime, and then getting arrested for performing that crime is. It is the same level of sin as spawn camping in counterstrike.

[Anonymous No.]

Matlock was a far superior crime solver than this hack.

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>>70382244

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>>70382569
usually, a goof fp makes a good thread
and you fucked up all the potential
fpwp

[Anonymous No.]

Sending Elira to the Columbo dimension...

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>>70382939
incorrect

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>>70382244
>I will be going now mister Kaneshiro, thank you for your time.
>You know, my wife is a big fan of yours. She even purchased, as they call it, merchandise with your imagery, wonderful woman.
>Hmm, that's funny, your signature on my documents looks nothing like the autograph on one of these postcards she got.
>Crazy how that just happens sometimes, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70387060
kek

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>>70383288
Was
>Any Old Port In A Storm
on her list?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383288
I really liked the one that had "LIQUID FILTH" and the one with Doctor Breen's voice actor where he kills his wife. Also Elira Pendora did nothing wrong.

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>>70382569
>>70382930
Actually Columbo apparently got a surprising viewership for such an old show during the pandemic when people were bored and looking for shit to watch.

Columbo-posting is also always funny.

[Anonymous No.]

come on anons

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>>70387057
>I'm going to sue you. No, I didn't sign anything specific saying the lawsuit documents will be private. Yes, I am accusing you of a crime in these documents? Why would you be able to see it?

You retards need to stop watching Columbo and start watching actual court cases

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>>70392093
no lawsuit has been filled you drooling retard, even if one did start it would be against the company and not Elira as an individual

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>>70392210
She threatened to sue to the other livers too. Did you wake up yesterday?

[Anonymous No.]

>least obvious nijisister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70392540
>She threatened to sue
yeah? and where did she do that?
stop making shit up dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>70392665
The termination notice that she read and never denied that anything there happened?

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>>70392540
>She threatened to sue to the other livers too
LMAO. Stupid retard.

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>>70392952
You mean the point in the termination notice that she addressed very explicitly?
>On Feb 5th, my lawyer discussed and said it will be best to show the document I wrote to the other lawyers as we have not heard from them for a week or any negotiation talks or given a meeting to discuss after my request to part. It was never intended to be used for anything else, I’ve asked my lawyer to convey that and have communication that the document as it was written wasn’t going to be released anywhere, and my lawyer did so when sending the document.

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>>70392952
Reading comprehension, ESL-chama...

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>>7039344
Look,a disingenuous shithead. Do you mind reading the section right after it when she threatens legal action against everyone and their mother?

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>>70385151
Columbo makes a lot more sense once you realize that the show is actually about a retired detective recounting his old cases.
This is why every antagonist is a brilliant mastermind needing to be foiled. Its why every villain concocts an absurd Rube Goldberg machine of a plan in order to carry out the murder. Its why Columbo always "knows" who the perpetrator is immediately even with no evidence; he's trying to fit the evidence to the narrative that his guy is the perp.
Many of the inconsistencies Columbo points out in their stories are easily chalked up to faulty memory. But of course, you can't just misremember something to the cops; its actually a damning lie.
Every confession at the end of an episode is incredibly dramatic, and happens after he's pieced the puzzle together. Its a false confession elicited by a hack detective. A story about Columbo's cunning wit being retold to his cop buddies.

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>>70392952
you stupid mongrel gorilla it doesn't say she threatened to sue

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>>70393446
You have to understand, these people solve their problem screaming in the middle of the street, for them the court of public opinion has value.
And they still lost in that too. Clowns forever.

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>>70393655
Oh, I guess by "threatened legal action" , she actually meant she would have called the police on them and got them arrested for terrorism against the prime minister. Totally not a lawsuit

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>>70393811
Well, then why it didn't happen? The negotiations didn't continue.
Sounds to me that your menhera world doesn't match the public. Also, what happened to "Corpo are invincible in court"? They surely look so brave right now, 35 days into hiding.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70393811
>"threatened legal action"
post a picture of where it says these words in this order in the termination letter

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>>70392952
Lawyers are used for more than just lawsuits. Legal responsibility doesn't mean a "lawsuit" either. Livers are in a legally binding contract. Breaking contract leaves you subject to any penalty clauses included in it (usually hefty fines to discourage contract breaking).
Doki wanted out of her contract early due to her deteriorating mental health caused by workplace harassment. Holding Anycolor legally responsible for her inability to fulfill her contract is lawyer speak for "I'm quitting early and I'm not paying a penalty for doing so".

Contrast this with Pomu and Mysta who both put in for graduation over 6 months before they were allowed to actually leave. Doki clearly wasn't in a state to last another 6+ months.

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>>70393926
Because she has no case and doesn't want to lose money fighting a losing battle. She didn't hire a lawyer and send them over for the sake of peace

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>>70394158
>She didn't hire a lawyer,
Ok, you don't talk english, you are using google translate. How the fuck you are saying that with literal evidence we discussed a second ago?
Also nice going, you read the message and didn't correct me saying "35" days. Full proof you don't even care about Niji, you count days from last Vox apparence. Kindred cocksucker confirmed.

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>>70393970
Wow, that's a great rrat that immediately gets disproved when Nijisanji says verbatim that she was posing a threat to the ongoing activities of the other livers while also claiming she was harassed. It also makes 0 sense why the negotiations involved getting her to follow the rules and to post a statement about the video, why would she have to follow the rules if she was going to immediately quit? You fucks don't use your noggin

[Anonymous No.]

>>70384578
Vinny would never defend a case like Elira's unless she was his cousin.

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>>70394363
>Elira returning to Canada.
Yeah no, the moment she steps there, she will have to deal with PIPEDA for that video. That's why she is hiding in Japan.

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>>70394279
>Ok, you don't talk english
Are you retarded? I said she didn't hire a lawyer for the sake of peace, not that she never hired a lawyer. Did you fail English class in elementary and drop out because you were frustrated or something?

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>>70382569
I've watched columbo ever since I learned it's a cheat code for fucking milfs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394443
Still kindred cocksucker confirmed, you didn't even deny it. -39IQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394433
>PIPEDA

You know the only thing promised to be private was the medical document that was never shown to them, right? Doki literally said it herself. I feel like I'm in a world full of retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394443
>wanted to graduate peacefully without AnyColor taking flak
>Used lawyer to make sure she didn't get fucked like Zaion and instead would go quietly like Yugo.
>didn't use lawyer for the sake of peace
No, you're clearly the idiot here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70393970
I want to shove Riku Tazumi's yacht stem to stern up his ass

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>>70394549
That's HIPAA you uncultured clown. PIPEDA is worse, you can't show shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>no UR THE RETARD
based retards on both “sides” kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382569
I'm 27 and I don't get the reference. When the fuck did this air?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394344
I'm not sure how you can't follow a simple statement. But I'll help you out. Courtesy of the actual termination notice.
>She claimed that she was no longer able to engage in her activities as a Liver
She wants out of her contract.
>due to the decisions made by ANYCOLOR, was being harassed by other Livers due to mismanagement, etc.
She gave them a list of reasons why she should be released from her contract.
>Selen Tatsuki demanded that ANYCOLOR should be held legally responsible.
"It's your fault I need to get out of my contract, so I shouldn't have to pay penalties for breaking it."
>Selen Tatsuki insisted that if negotiations did not progress, she would proceed to release a statement regarding her claims to the public.
Let me out, or I'm going to go public with my grievances.


>immediately gets disproved when Nijisanji says verbatim that she was posing a threat to the ongoing activities of the other livers
Anycolor has said a lot of things that were immediately disproved by people coming forward. Like Doki not paying artists. When in fact Anycolor wasn't paying them and Doki had to step up and pay them out of pocket.
>It also makes 0 sense why the negotiations involved getting her to follow the rules and to post a statement about the video
Your timeline is messed up. Her telling the world to upload the video was effectively her suicide note. At that point she had no intention of returning to the company... or life.
>why would she have to follow the rules if she was going to immediately quit?
Anycolor spoke to her emergency contact, while she was in the hospital, and tried to pressure Doki into covering their asses so they didn't look bad for taking down her video. It was entirely for their own PR. Same reason they posted on her Twitter account and claimed she was in the hospital for an "accident". Despite them admitting that she had her social media account taken away from her.

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>>70394583
>>wanted to graduate peacefully without AnyColor taking flak
>>Used lawyer to make sure she didn't get fucked like Zaion and instead would go quietly like Yugo.

A rrat that gets disproved considering Doki never says this and Nijisanji negotiates with her lawyers that she has to follow the activity rules from here on out. Why the fuck would they say this to someone who apparently wants to immediately quit? Also she wrote a lawsuit document that immediately got her fired and threatened to expose it to the public on her stream. You are retarded if you think she "peacefully" sent lawyers to their door while claiming she was harassed to suicide and that she wanted them held "legally responsible"

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>>70394831
>I'm not sure how you can't follow a simple statement
Because they can barely understand English, anon. Not only that but they can barely understand normal human thought processes because they have been raised from birth to be subservient to authority figures.

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>>70394831
Ok, I can see you read that document. Let's be clear, it's full of a lot of assumption, we rrat but we also check our receips here.

>The video was her suicide note
Doesn't match with what the Termination and Selen said, so it's just rrat for now.
Same with other detail of that document, so do be aware you may be stepping into unconfirmed territory quoting that. For the rest, I agree with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394785
Go search "Columbo clips" on Youtube right now. Enjoy your 2-hour minimum rabbit hole.

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>>70394889
woah there sister, first off doki never said anything of the sort about revealing anything in that document live on her stream, ever. Second, a "peaceful" negotiation from doki's end was basically her showing the Nijii legal team the receipts her and her lawyer have, and being like "i want out without any repercussions, but in case you try to character assassinate me, I have guns. Don't make me use them." As far as it looks from the outside, Doki was content letting whatever legal remnants such as possible compensation for emotional and financial damages happen behind the scenes, if they were even in progress. She initially wanted out of her contract, which she got via termination, but still kept her ass covered in case Nijii tried to pull some shit, which they did. Doki could have went full scorched earth from day 1 if she wanted to.

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>>70394889
This is a misconstruction of reality. You can't say someone was gonna sue someone else if it didn't happen. It's the same logic of "he had a gun in his pocket, so it may have turned into a gun incident so I shot him".
Selen did EXACTLY what the document said, she released a statement as soon as terminated, revealing what happened but not going all out because lawyer is smart. You want it to be aggressive because you are going "don't attack my multimilion corpo" menhera without proof.

Still hasn't denied he's a kindred cocksucker btw.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394687
https://www.torys.com/fr-ca/our-latest-thinking/publications/2017/03/pipeda-may-not-apply-to-information-collected-to-defend-a-lawsuit

Simple Google search

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394889
>still making shit up
It's stated in plain text in the termination notice that she wanted to graduate due to them being legally responsible for the bullshit that happened to her. She sent the information through her lawyer of a document where she kept her thoughts for months as a way to plead her case for why she should be able to leave. This is stated both in the termination notice and in Doki's statement following the video.
On top of this, everything she's ever done throughout her 3 years with Nijisanji has shown her to be a rational person who avoids conflict outside of streams and content creation. She doesn't attack people and has been shown to never be seriously vindictive. On top of this, after leaving the company, she ACTUALLY stopped talking about them all the way up until they tried to sabotage her with the blackbox video, showing she really was fucking trying to move on now that she was out of the company. Please, please, finish your education and actually learn how to read English before coming back /here/.

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>>70395254
>14 minutes later
Thank you for confirming you said >>70394549
out of your ass and when I spoke you went to read the actual PIPEDA. Next time don't be a moron online.
And second, MORON. Even if it was a sue, Doki would have sued Anycolor, NOT the livers. Nothing said that the livers were gonna get sued, quite the opposite, the termination AND Doki only bring up the company.
The livers stepped forward, and until they get sued, they have zero right to read documents. They are NOT defendants and Doki is NOT a plantiff, because there is no lawsuit.
When you serve the actual document, you have also to deposit them to court. There would be a lawsuit going on, otherwise that's a PIPEDA violation.

Thank you for participating on "why cocksucking Vox doesn't make you smart".

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382569
Family guy is plenty popular and 50% of the "comedy" is references to 80s movies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383059
Ironically marine would have become a vtuber anyway, purely to get access to her 12yo fans. And now that she's 32 and a 20yo could quite literally be her kid (in theory) it's even better.
>MOMMY MILKY

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>>70384578
Damn. This is the most jewish looking guy I've seen in a while. Bold of them to just literally cast a jew as a sketchy lawyer.

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>>70394831
>She wants out of her contract.
Wrong. She's claiming they're preventing her from working. Stop making assumptions
>She gave them a list of reasons why she should be released from her contract.
Wrong. She listed reasons why she was being prevented from working
>It's your fault I need to get out of my contract, so I shouldn't have to pay penalties for breaking it."
Wrong, this one is just retarded and doesn't even a bit of evidence to it being the case
>Let me out, or I'm going to go public with my grievances.
Or maybe "Don't fire me or I will ruin you"
>Like Doki not paying artists.
That isn't disproved. If I usually pay for my groceries everywhere else that doesn't mean I didn't not pay once. Personal projects are also always paid entirely by the person doing them. You're literally a tourist
>Your timeline is messed up.
You can't read. The notice says Nijisanji said this to her lawyers
>Anycolor spoke to her emergency contact, while she was in the hospital,
You can't read. It says they spoke to them both and never mentioned anything about trying to speak to her in the hospital. There's literally no proof of them posting on her account considering they gave her back access to her account while she was in the hospital

[Anonymous No.]

>>70395488
"Selen and her lawyer mentioned the possibility that they will also hold Livers affiliated with ANYCOLOR Inc. legally responsible. "

Go home, you're drunk

[Anonymous No.]

>weeks later and sisters are still making shit up
they'll still be seething for years

[Anonymous No.]

>>70395471
>It's stated in plain text in the termination notice that she wanted to graduate

No it isn't. You literally just made up something so hard you think it's fact. She never said she wanted to immediately graduate and neither did Niji.

>On top of this, everything she's ever done throughout her 3 years with Nijisanji has shown her to be a rational person who avoids conflict outside of streams and content creation
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>On top of this, after leaving the company, she ACTUALLY stopped talking about them all the way up until they tried to sabotage her with the blackbox video,
She said she was planning on releasing her documents to the public before black box even happened. What is this revisionism?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70395665
Isn't it tiring to lie all the time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70395855
Pretty sure they're hoping to gaslight people into thinking they didn't witness this clusterfuck happen in real time. Goebbels would weep.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396055
shut up elira

[Anonymous No.]

>>70395665
>Don't fire me or I'll ruin you.
It shows you don't have a job and are a loser. No one would ever fight to stay in a place where they are harrassed and after fighting his boss. Not in America, not in Japan, not in the world.
She wanted out. The idea she wanted to stay is a concept only a 10 year old moron without a job can think because he has never worked a day in his life and doesn't know.
Go find one, then come back. Or go back to school and stop wasting your time sucking dicks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396122
Wow, a bunch of outsiders that don't know anything about regular Vtubing corporation practices think that Nijisanji was supposed to pay for Selen's projects and not Selen herself. You sure caught me in a lie

[Anonymous No.]

>>70395665
>Wrong. She's claiming they're preventing her from working. Stop making assumptions
why the fuck would she bring in her lawyer then you retard
>Wrong. She listed reasons why she was being prevented from working
im sure that's why she requested to LEAVE FORMALL ON JANUARY 26th.
>Wrong, this one is just retarded and doesn't even a bit of evidence to it being the case
so you're admitting that it's easy to leave nijisanji
which means vox backstabbed his own friend so he can keep mooching off in niji lmao
so it's either it's easy to leave (in which case, vox is a piece of shit) or it's not (company blackmail)
>Or maybe "Don't fire me or I will ruin you"
why the fuck would she want to stay after she tried to off herself from workplace harassment and she brought a lawyer in to get out of the contract (which she tweeted herself, you mongoloid).
>That isn't disproved. If I usually pay for my groceries everywhere else that doesn't mean I didn't not pay once. Personal projects are also always paid entirely by the person doing them. You're literally a tourist
there have been half a dozen artists, all mentioning how Nijisanji DID NOT PAY THEM despite promises of payment, AND fucked up their NDAs.
im willing to believe the side that isn't constantly shitting itself and actually paid people.
if it was all on Selen, then why did the artists EXPECT payment from Anycolor??
>You can't read. The notice says Nijisanji said this to her lawyers
please point it out to the class. you must have paper evidence since you're saying niji said this, correct?
>Anycolor spoke to her emergency contact, while she was in the hospital,
it literally says in her termination letter that they attempted contact her emergency contact (presumably because SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL).
are you fucking retarded

wait no, this is the same shitter from reddit. same grammar, same form of writing
it's that retard that cock sucks riku everywhere
just ignore him anons, he's literally delusional. he posts 200 times a day on reddit and he camps 4chan too 24/7.
probably has stocks bet on anycolor and is seething that it crashed 600 points.

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>>70396055
>Accuses other of revisonism.
>Things happened as he said but the thing he claimed SHOULD have happened didn't.
Failure at having a brain will result in being clowned. Failure at not being a cocsucker kindred will result in what you see in a mirror.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396055
>>70395665
OK cite your sources. Tell me exactly where it's stated publicly that Selen wanted to continue staying in Nijisanji without graduating. Go ahead. Find it. Then while you're at it, tell me where Doki stated publicly that she would reveal the document to the public.
Also retard, when you make a suicide attempt, they take your phone and social media away from you. There is no way she would get access to her twitter JUST for a social media post. Hell, if she really was still suicidal, why the fuck would you risk her blowing everything on twitter and then offing herself? It's extremely clear she hasn't had access to her twitter account OR discord since at least the 25th, especially if you count even her artist and most public friend RPR saying she's ghosted him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396289
We are not joking about the NDF anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396272
>Said the guy on a board that needs to go read a document if you post something he doesn't know.
I say since they worked with it, they are superior to you.
Although that's not an hard bar to pass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396272
an actual newfag that doesn't understand that if all the artists involved expected some sort of compensation from nijisanji, then it was most likely nijisanji promised both the artists and selen that they would reimburse
which never happened
why the fuck would they be sent NDAs
are you fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396422
KEK, caught in 4k.
I hope you know this can be used as a legal document for defamation. And I don't think Niji will pay your lawyers, losers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396422
i know. this shitter is the same one on reddit
i've seen him deepthroat ndf shit all the time
it's so obvious too: same writing style, same condescending tone, same everything
for the record anons: this ndf faggot posts 300 times on reddit. you can easily find him in the niji reddit, cause he's downvoted to hell every time.
despite his "impeccable" grammar, he's actually a flip. so basically, he's the same as tat mae pinoy ndf member.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396217
Okay. Let me put this in a situation you might understand

If I get fired or immediately quit my job, I don't get the benefits of having a planned quitting. If I plan to quit in advance, I get a giant bonus called the "graduation buff" where I get a shit ton of money, can properly say good-bye to everyone and I am free to shit talk the company after I leave anyways. Anyone with a brain would want a planned graduation over immediately quitting

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396560
ok let me put it in simple words so your pinoy brain can understand

if you are being harassed, to the point where you want to commit suicide, you usually want to get the fuck out of there.
she had a solid fanbase, which would've easily followed her, as evident now (obviously bigger due to the scandal, but she would still be pulling in decent numbers)
at that point, when you are mentally and physically exhausted by the company, you would want to get the fuck out of there asap
which is why lawyers were involved.

money is not everything, you SEAmonkey. some people actually want to get out of a shitty workplace, even if it costs something.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396055
read the termination announcement again, retard
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757588850141204669

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396560
So since you are speaking of graduation...she wanted out. Wow you are stupid.
Also sure, she just had to stick around the place SHE WAS BULLIED TO SELF HARM for some extra money. Then again one that get paid to go on a free board can only think with his dick, I understand.
Sorry, I will respectfully treat you as a proper retarded from now on.
>And watch him saying there is no proof of self harm in a second because he can only circle until his neuron is tired to scream at him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396055
https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1754459958119432664?lang=en
"I requested to leave first on more neutral terms on January 26th."
neutral terms
graduation party and streams aren't exactly "neutral" anon. more like a proper celebratory sendoff.
she just wanted to get the fuck out of there, from everything that we've seen

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijiniggers still screeching and crying about their black company in a thread meant to make a goofy joke for boomers
You sisters are genuinely pathetic. I honestly hope you all find god.

[Anonymous No.]

LOGIC [Easy: Success] - A four-page graduation diatribe is completely out of step with the briefer and more professional graduation notices previously posted by the company. This suggests that there's something more to this than simply firing an employee, it's something more personal behind it, a feeling of...

EMPATHY [Medium: Success] - Betrayal.

HALF LIGHT [Challenging: Success] - Fear.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396942
You missed it. These moron are here to argue and make an argument apparently, on payment.
Not only they have been kicked out of the ENTIRE interned and clowned, this is their job, wasting time doing arguments without evidence on 4chan.
You can't get more pathetic than that. Getting paid to shill and still losing. Jesus I would be ashamed of myself, but I guess SEAmonkeys don't have that problem

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396560
how many tazumi dolls have you gaped yourself with this month

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397140
as i said, this seamonkey is in the nijireddit
you can easily tell as I said: same grammar, same attitude, same fucking vocab
he's called people "indogs" so a racist and a flip to boot.
he's most definitely a paid shill. no one makes this many 4chan and reddit posts per day and not get paid. cause he's unemployed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397122
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396289
>why the fuck would she bring in her lawyer then you retard
Because she was threatening to sue?
>im sure that's why she requested to LEAVE FORMALL ON JANUARY 26th.
English? Also she started talking to Nijisanji about her planned graduation on the 26th, she didn't request to leave on the 26th otherwise her lawyers wouldn't have waited a fucking week past the deadline to do something
>so you're admitting that it's easy to leave nijisanji which means vox backstabbed his own friend
It is easy to leave Niji. I don't know why Vox would leave with his friend who betrayed him, lied to him and kept secret recordings of him behind his back to use in a lawsuit
>why the fuck would she want to stay after she tried to off herself from workplace harassment
Then why was she upset she was fired and said she wanted to leave on her own terms multiple times?
> then why did the artists EXPECT payment from Anycolor??
Because they're retards who don't know how Vtuber corporations work
>please point it out to the class
"Legal counsel". Remember to read up for the exam this week, Jimmy
>it literally says in her termination letter that they attempted contact her emergency contact (presumably because SHE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL)
You lost at "presumably". Confirmed rrat crafting. They were talking with her and her contact on the 26th and on the 27th, she's in the hospital. Keep up
>this is the same shitter from reddit
Sorry, there's more than one person who thinks you're retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397296
nice to see you again u/brzzcode
do as a favor and please get a job.
no need to hide it, we know you're the same person
it's so obvious

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396932
>graduation party and streams aren't exactly "neutral" anon.

How the fuck isn't that neutral? Every person that leaves Nijisanji except Yugo decided to have those streams. That is by definition, neutral since no one is negatively effected

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397244
>Nijireddit
You can't be serious, that's completely taken over by the anti. Even Niji gave up, it's the 2nd already and they didn't even update the pinned message.
Niji literally sent these losers to fight their battles in their homes. And they still lose. You can't make this shit up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397296
look at this guy go

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396733
>if you are being harassed, to the point where you want to commit suicide, you usually want to get the fuck out of there

Wow, if only we can see how bad this harassment was. Oh wait, she'll never show us and she's preventing Niji from showing it too. Classic glowie tactics. Secret recordings and all. You must be retarded if you don't think the average person wouldn't want to cash in before leaving their company because they had their feelings hurt

[Anonymous No.]

Please no job loser, make another argument. Now you will invent the yacht doesn't exist? You are right, we should buy Riku one. Can you send me the money, I assume you I will take care of them.
"See? Dookie! I'm an NDF!" You can trust me, I can even sell you some NTF.

Fuck off, clown.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397296
>Because she was threatening to sue?
which you still have not provided any evidence of
>English? Also she started talking to Nijisanji about her planned graduation on the 26th, she didn't request to leave on the 26th otherwise her lawyers wouldn't have waited a fucking week past the deadline to do something
you're pinoy buddy, we know.
in her own fucking tweet, she said she "requested" to leave on neutral terms on the 26th you seamonkey.
when her request was denied, she escalated with the complaint letter to get out of contract
>It is easy to leave Niji. I don't know why Vox would leave with his friend who betrayed him, lied to him and kept secret recordings of him behind his back to use in a lawsuit
right, and im sure spreading out graduations month after month across all branches is definitely just a weird coincidence
and im sure you also know the full details of their contract. show us the evidence
she clarified that it was a test recording. how the fuck is it a betrayal if she was gathering evidence to show favoritism/harassment within her workplace? it's literally textbook step 1 of filing a complaint
>Then why was she upset she was fired and said she wanted to leave on her own terms multiple times?
proof? because by all accounts, she wanted to be out of there. why the fuck do you think she prepared multiple statements at the ready for her termination and Niji's escalation with the black video
cause she knew this shit would most likely happen
>Because they're retards who don't know how Vtuber corporations work
you're literally unemployed, typing away in 4chan and reddit 24/7. im sure the artists that actually draw and contract for a living, knows more than you
>"Legal counsel". Remember to read up for the exam this week, Jimmy
thank you antonio, now please provide physical evidence
>They were talking with her and her contact on the 26th and on the 27th, she's in the hospital. Keep up
26th and 27th of December. Shortly after her hospitalization you retard. it's literally in their own termination letter
why the fuck would they contact her a month after when she was hospitalized for pr statements

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397622
You forgot to sign youself up. People may not be able to notice you repeating yourself. And with people, I mean the 39IQ you are gonna send this to get the money, because we have actual brains you don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397622
>she'll never show us and she's preventing Niji from showing it too
Funniest leap in logic I've seen yet. Keep em coming sis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397622
>she's preventing Niji from showing it too
How exactly is she preventing the other livers from showing the messages they sent her after management privated the video?
After all, Vox said he didn't consider them harassment, and certainly the public would agree with Vox.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396560
Let me see if I grasp what you are saying here. You believe that she wanted to keep working at the company until they eventually let her graduate. You actually believe that she wanted to continue working for a company that drove her to attempt suicide. All so that she could have a graduation stream which the company would take 50% of the profits from.
Here's a newsflash for you. She's already made more than a graduation stream would give her. In fact, she's made more than most Livers do in an entire year. Over $70k in superchats alone since she returned to indie. And each dollar goes twice as far, because she's not giving half of it to the corporation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396462
>all the artists involved expected some sort of compensation from nijisanji,
All? That's funny. That's their words against literally every other person that actually works in the company who says they pay for their own covers and events out of their pocket. They were sent NDAs because obviously they would have private information of the people who are paying them unless you think she had a bank account in the name of "Selen Tatsuki"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397296
have you considered getting a real job

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397622
>You can't be serious, that's completely taken over by the anti. Even Niji gave up, it's the 2nd already and they didn't even update the pinned message.
Niji literally sent these losers to fight their battles in their homes. And they still lose. You can't make this shit up.
there's one dedicated pinoy monkey that's still in there.
happens to be the same monkey in this very thread
>How the fuck isn't that neutral? Every person that leaves Nijisanji except Yugo decided to have those streams. That is by definition, neutral since no one is negatively effected
yugo's termination was neutral because the company didn't say much and just terminated them.
pomu's and kyo's wasn't "neutral," they had a celebration for a month
yes, im sure raito had a great send off stream
>Wow, if only we can see how bad this harassment was. Oh wait, she'll never show us and she's preventing Niji from showing it too. Classic glowie tactics. Secret recordings and all. You must be retarded if you don't think the average person wouldn't want to cash in before leaving their company because they had their feelings hurt
>seamonkey doens't understand you shouldn't release anything to the public if there's a possible lawsuit coming from niji
holy retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>70393653
>muh ultradark secret backstory to the setting that paints everything as morally grey and the protagonist was a bad guy the whole time
Marvel ruined an entire generation of writers

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397933
Holy ESL and format. You are seething the shit out of this.
Get a fucking job loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397622
>Oh wait, she'll never show us and she's preventing Niji from showing it too.
how the fuck could she prevent Niji from showing us? With her army of a single lawyer that told her to shut up?
What on earth is this then if "she's preventing Niji from showing it"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397866
and they fucked up those NDAs
that does not inspire confidence at all
do you still have any proof of the contracts with these artists? or do you want to go ask them on twitter.
because im sure i believe the artists that were ACTUALLY INVOLVED rather than a an unemployed seamonkey typing away at midnight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397855
>You actually believe that she wanted to continue working for a company that drove her to attempt suicide.
Well considering we don't know the caliber of this "harassment" and that money is a great motive for people, yes. Are you saying you wouldn't ignore your bullies for a week to cash in a 500k then simply go back to being an indie to get even more money?
>She's already made more than a graduation stream
Nice job looking at things with hindsight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398022
since you're on every thread, i think it should be more applied to you.
i know the philippines is a crime infested shit hole, but im sure even a monkey like you can work as a janitor
no wonder none of the vtubing companies will ever go there: even Indonesia is better than you spanish water monkey retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398075
>500K
he thinks niji streamers get paid this much
kyo didn't even break 10k in total (after deductions for sueprchats)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397845
>How exactly is she preventing the other livers from showing the messages they sent her after management privated the video?

The very clear lawsuit threat that she explicitly said she didn't want them to show while she constantly threatens to show them but never ends up showing them? She even admitted to trying to gag them but her lawyers fucked up comms, don't be stupid

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398075
Friendly reminder these are all assumptions, he has no idea, he lost the battle of evidence and human dignity already, so he is dancing for us the ballet of the retard.
Dance, SEAmonkey, dance!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398219

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
i always dreamed to have that shit car he had

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398040
>and they fucked up those NDAs
Wrong again. The person responsible in sending the NDAs is the person commissioning the artist. Nijisanji only writes them up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398101
Bro you shot on the wrong person, can't even board right. Don't use the format if you don't know what the fuck you are even doing, newfag.
>Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.]

in the end, no matter how much he dances, en is gone
most of their big announced events are either just appearances in some cons or all in sea
in the end, nijien is dead.

btw 13.5% of the entirety of niji has graduated since 2022. 3 livers this year alone, and more to come.
keep the cope coming buddy. we want to see what excuses you make when a few more graduate these coming months

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398357
>Artist said the NDA that were SENT had shit written wrong on it.
Congratz, you stumbled. Can't even dance right, useless SEAmonkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398357
>wrong again
>wrong again
>wrong again
no evidence.
does this nigger really

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398385
If anything I feel sorry for the talents when their contract will force them to move away becuase now Niji has market only in SEA.
Well, not all of them, the bullies get what they deserve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398075
see, the thing about being dead is that you can't make or spend money afterwards. preventing her own death would absolutely win out over rolling the dice on a nice payout with everyone at her asshole company breathing down her neck in the weeks leading up to graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398248
"Assumptions". She immediately blamed them for her suicide upon discovering she was fired, said she wanted to graduate on her own terms multiple times and talked about how she was clinically broke because of her own retardation. Niji even told her that they expect her to comply with activity rules which makes no sense if she wants to quit which would make her inactive. You retards are claiming any color pulled a "contract from hell" on her and demonically laughed in her face when she said she was quitting despite them immediately firing her

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383059
I love this image so much

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398655
>REEEEEEEEEEEE
>you can't quit if I fire you first bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398075
>we don't know the caliber of this "harassment"
We know it was enough to drive her to attempt suicide. We also know that if the harassment "wasn't that bad" then Anycolor could post their receipts. Literally nothing is preventing them from doing so. They already attempted it once during the black screen video and only managed to confirm that her manager was ghosting her. Oh and we also know she made no fucking profit the entire year she was working with them. So tell me again why she would want to keep working and continue making no profit?

If Anycolor makes a claim, Doki is perfectly within her rights to respond and refute it. She's done so repeatedly. In fact every statement she's made on the subject has been a response to something Anycolor said.
If Doki makes a claim, Anycolor is perfectly within their rights to respond and refute it. They haven't. Because they don't have receipts that make them look good. If Anycolor had better receipts than the one that showed her manager ghosting her, they would have posted them when they had a chance.

>cash in a 500k
You seem to have NijiEN mixed up with Hololive. Even Mysta came nowhere close to $500k. Unless you meant some monopoly currency?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398385
Please let Rosemi be next in the queue. We will find you and support you, our beloved Rose Maiden.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398623
>preventing her own death
The only person that was a threat to her life was herself. Clearly the people she considered "bullies" aren't as bad as you think if she informed them of her hospitalization. Give me a scenario where it makes sense to tell your bullies you tried to kill yourself while keeping your accusations that they're the ones that caused it under wraps

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398655
> I want to quit.
>No, your contract says you can't quit up until this time.
>I'm filing an official complaint.
>We're terminating you and releasing a statement before you (assuming that you make it public)
Pomu wanted to quit for some time, but she was forced to wait until her contract expiry.
Do nijifags really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398924
any proof that they knew, you retard?
do you have ANY screenshot, tweet, evidence that they were aware of her hospitalization or the reason for it?
because it looks like even niji was trying to reach out to her since she blocked off contact.
are all pinoy faggots like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398888
Let's be real. If she leaves, we all know where she's going.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399076
last i checked no one at phase connect tried to kill themselves so that's fine i guess

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398838
>Literally nothing is preventing them from doing
So are you purposely ignoring the fact she threatened to sue, tried to ensure they couldn't speak about the lawsuit and that Elira herself said they were "limited" in what they can say? Selen claims they harassed her to death. Nijisanji said I'm innocent. "I'm innocent" is not a claim you have to prove in court, you autist. Nijisanji never tried to make Selen "legally responsible", Doki did. What's not clicking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70389404
Is this episode famous or what? It was specifically recommended by the author of Detective Conan in his "famous detectives / authors" section at the end of one of Conan volumes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398924
This one. >>70394831
Yeah it turns out when you make an HR complaint you have to actually talk to the HR department. Shocking right? She also never intended for anyone outside of Anycolor's legal department to see the documents she sent. Anycolor shared them anyways.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399042
So are all of you retards? Elira said Selen herself told them all about her hospitalization and they got updates on her condition through a manager. Selen had to have gotten access to her account back from the company to even tweet anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399256
I dunno, are you purposely ignoring you are a monkey?
Wenalready covered all you said. No evidence she actually wanted to sue, Elira should have said NOTHING as she’s not a defendant in any lawsuit, we are not gonna believe someone is innocent when they open the door and introduce the crimes first and the other part just nods, especially if they do an apology video, and you are a jobless monkey.
Did I miss anything? Oh right, kindred payed cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399411
>HR department
>legal department

Which one is it, retard? If it was sent to the HR department, how come she said only the legal department was supposed to see it? Your rrat is dying

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399420
hospitalization does not necessarily mean a suicide attempt

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398219
>that she explicitly said she didn't want to show them
I'm failing to understand how "the lawyers couldn't show me this" would suppress information that the livers could gather on their own?
I mean, yeah, it'd mean the lawyer's couldn't show the livers the confidential documents. Does it somehow retroactively make communications between Selen and the other livers confidential?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399420
Literally the only way to rationalize believing they would give back access to corporate accounts to someone mentally unstable and, according to you, threatening to sue, is if you're genuinely retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399533
>HR and legal departments can never ever work together to resolve disputes
Retardchama, just say you've never worked a real job in your life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399533
just grasping. grasping for anything, ANYTHING that might mean that your portfolio isn't about to eat a double decker shit sandwich

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399256
>threatened to sue
Still haven't proved this yet.
>tried to ensure they couldn't speak about the lawsuit
Literally impossible without a gag order from a judge. Which would only happen if there was a lawsuit. Guess what? Lawsuits are public record. Guess what again? No lawsuit has been filed.
>Elira herself said they were "limited" in what they can say
No shit Sherlock. Anycolor's attorneys curated her statement. She said so herself. Everything they said was approved by their lawyers. How did you miss the first few minutes of the video but get random bits in the middle?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399420
So basically you are admitting they skinwalked her and that she was hospitalized for self harm.
And since this was never said by Doki, we can’t be sure this “manager” did not lie, especially since RIKU called the manager incompetence in his apology.
Jesus we dealt with the monkey and they sent the chimpanzee, how much thry paid you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399533
Congratulations. You just proved you have never worked a corporate job in your entire life.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399533
He already responded you but that was so retarded I must call you a jobless moron too. You deserve the bis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399749
It's worse. They have no fucking clue how corporations operate, the absolute monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394158
Doki didn't have to send the lawyers over to Japan. Doing so would have been counter-productive anyway, given how JP justice invariably skews against gaikokujin.
NijiEN is considered by Canada (sovereign nation-state where Doki worked/works) to be an employer. Their employees that stream from Canada are not independent contractors, in accordance with Canadian law. The employer (Niji) was therefore subject to Canadian employment laws, which they did not follow in her case. So NijiEN is in some trouble, at least in Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

So proof the NDF is jobless so they can’t pay ghe supas and the merch and Riku is fucked:
>Thinking someone being harrassed to self harm wants to stay in a job.
>Thinking you don’t need a lawyer to discuss a contract.
>Thinking HR and Legal don’t work together.
Someone call the yachtphile, he is so fucked if these are his whales.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399520
>No evidence she actually wanted to sue
"Legally responsible". "Documents shared between lawyers" "Claims of harassment" "Unjust practices" "All communications were done between lawyers
>Elira should have said NOTHING as she’s not a defendant in any lawsuit
"Selen and her lawyer mentioned the possibility that they will also hold Livers affiliated with ANYCOLOR Inc. legally responsible. "
>introduce the crimes first and the other part just nods
What actually happened
>I didn't do it. She will say I did it but she's trying to defame me
>Yeah you did. What you did made me try to kill myself. This company is evil
It must take effort to be this retarded. Go back to crying about Kronii cucking you or something

[Anonymous No.]

Ew, Kindred truly are the most detestable and delusional subhumans of Rikus's Menagerie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399865
And that’s why they are leaving America and moving to SEA. Probsbly gonna force all talents to move to japan…actually they already did, the karaoke remember? They are so royally fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399641
You clearly fail to understand a lot. Her lawyers gave them the lawsuit document, they made sure they could share them to the livers, conducted an internal investigation and warned them of the possibility of a lawsuit. You know, basic law that even Doki isn't arguing again anymore.
>But the only reason she's not involving lawyers anymore is because she loves peace
Funniest thing I will read when eventually a faggot will make this argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400031
Milord hasn't streamed in two weeks, they're proper mind broken at this point..

[Anonymous No.]

Absurd the number of anons that think Elira will be punished for this. Anycolor has actually invited her to headquarters for a promotion to real management. She's a made woman

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399749
Congratulations. You have no idea how to read.
> "No one but the legal department was supposed to see this"
Somehow, in your clown vision, you see a mention of an HR department that was also supposed to see the document. Mind explaining how she sends something to HR and expects them not to read it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399975
>All comms between lawyers
As you should with contracts, jobless moron. Only a jobless moron would not check a bunding contract with a lawyer.
>Elira
So first you are admitting she self reported, as no names were made by Doki. Even if such, no lawsuit, no right to read shit. As you said, all negotiations were done by lawyers. Why all of a sudden a third party?
>Holodiversion at lot of nonsense he is screaming because he’s a loser.
Go find a fucking job SEAmonkey. Then you can talk about contract law, except with your brain you will probably end in a criminal sweatshop indebted.
Wait, you already working for one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399975
Lawyers between her and Anycolor you moron. Not between her and Elira. If they wanted to say she was forcing them into a lawsuit, don't you think they would've plastered it all over the rest of the termination notice directly instead of grasping at straws with "she went around management to get work done faster" or "She kept trying to pay people directly when we wouldn't do it." Last time someone tried to leave without a lawyer was Zaion. Look how well that went for her. Nijisanji has absolutely no good will left and it's a fucking miracle how stupid you are to believe them at their word that they're totally the good guys when in both the termination notice and the Riku Tazumi video all they could care about is apologizing to stockholders and convincing them that it's still going to the moon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400308
She will get the worse punishments. This jobless moron is her new target audience. Can’t play JRPG with them, too many numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399958
>>Thinking you don’t need a lawyer to discuss a contract.
I didn't know other livers were legally responsible for her contract
>>Thinking HR and Legal don’t work together.
I didn't know Doki lied about only the legal department being meant to see the document. Just accept that your rrats are retarded and move on

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400328
>>70400518
This is how you know for a fact they are falseflagging. Nobody is actually this retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400031
>>70400270
i was full staff when he said that he was gonna "fuck me like a doll" in that dragon asmr so i kinda get it, but i'm pretty sure he's not the only deep voiced british dude making that kind of content. but there's gotta be at least a dozen decent copycats making that kind of content now

[Anonymous No.]

My dumbass misread the OP as Pekora and now I'm sad Columbo isn't curious about the monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400699
It has to be. I can't see any other way someone could be this out of touch with what's going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400518
Reading comprehension jobless moron, that post were directed at you, not at the talk. ESL betraying you again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400393
>As you should with contracts
I didn't know you had to accuse people of harassment to get out of a contract despite it being blatantly illegal to hold someone in a contract they want to leave. If her lawyers are so smart, why didn't they pull up that law?
>she self reported
Holy shit, it's the retard stamp of approval. It was never said who did what and they had to share the documents with people who are related to either internally investigate or because it's a possible lawsuit. Negotiations are done by lawyers, internal investigations and warnings of lawsuits are done by Niji. I won't acknowledge your schizophrenic babbling

[Anonymous No.]

>39IQ daph, the stinky chink is arguing with anons right now in a columbo thread

We live in a clownworld.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400196
The reason I find your argument is hard to understand is that you've abandoned the premise that I originally asked about.
>Wow, if only we can see how bad this harassment was. Oh wait, she'll never show us and she's preventing Niji from showing it too.

You've gone from "she's preventing Niji from showing us evidence" to "her lawyers gave them the lawsuit document". The document isn't the evidence in question, so it sounds like you're suggesting that anything related to the document is automatically confidential because the document is confidential.

And if that's the case, why were they about to show Selen's communications with the manager in the black box stream? What stopped them from showing their messages to Selen during that stream?

Aside from the lawyers telling them not to show blatant evidence of harassment, of course.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401090
Reading the post above you, this might actually be her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401095
>The document isn't the evidence in question
The evidence is related to the document so they can't show it. All claims of instances of harassment are made in the document and they can't disprove something they can't show or speak about.

>Aside from the lawyers telling them not to show blatant evidence of harassment, of course.
Vox and Elira literally talk about the "harassment" and it was them asking her why she's reacting the way she is to the manager. Don't work anywhere if you think that's harassment

>why were they about to show Selen's communications with the manager in the black box stream
Selen never included those messages in her document and they're able to show proof of rightful termination anyway.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400699
Oh so you have no argument unless you're implying the HR department and the legal department are somehow the same department. That might actually be the funniest shit in this thread if that's the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400436
>Not between her and Elira.
That was never said.
>they wanted to say she was forcing them into a lawsuit, don't you think they would've plastered it all over
They didn't, they said she threatened. Rule still applies
>Last time someone tried to leave without a lawyer was Zaion
She was fired, you buffoon. Explain how Selen threatened to hold livers "legally responsible" too if she was only talking about her contract.
>Nijisanji has absolutely no good will left
The rest of this is emotional whining.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70396272
Are you the dumbass who made a bunch of bait threads about Okayu having to pay back Cover for the cost of her MV, or are you a different idiot?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401541
Having gotten a peek behind the curtains of this trustfund baby's bullshit NTF-esque startup company, they probably don't even have an HR "department."

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401428
>The evidence is related to the document so they can't show it.
>They can't disprove something they can't show or speak about.
If they can't speak about it, they should not have brought it up during the black box stream.

>In addition, our Livers are not held to any confidentiality obligation regarding the information shared to them from ANY COLOR Inc. Thus, there are no legal issues regarding the information shared to the public in the stream made by our Livers.
But wait, Niji is telling us this, which makes it sound like they can speak about it. Obviously I should trust Niji instead of some rando on 4chan.

>Selen never included those messages in her document
Ah, so you were able to see the document because you work for Niji. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401541
When I worked for HR for Amazon at one of those giga distribution centers, we were basically working with legal side by side. Legal itself has different departments, assuming Niji didn't skimp on their legal staff and only employees 2 dudes who use chatgpt. We talked with them over things not related to outright lawsuits or settlements all the time as well. In our case it was mostly about Protected leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401994
>If they can't speak about it, they should not have brought it up during the black box stream.

They're able to speak about situations that involve them but they're not allowed to read out the whole document to the public, obviously. They can't show evidence because that's something that's directly related to the document, could maybe be considered a breach of privacy too.
>Obviously I should trust Niji instead of some rando on 4chan.
If you're ironically saying this, I worry for you
>Ah, so you were able to see the document because you work for Niji. Thanks for clearing that up.
Why would she include evidence that she was justly fired if she's trying to argue she was unjustly fired?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401778
Why would Doki's lawyer send a document to Elira in order to get out of her contract? When did she ever mention organs at all? In their own termination notice, they said that she claimed the company was liable for their shitty practices. She never made any public statements naming organs, much less naming anyone directly. Please at least read the statements from the people you try to defend. >>70398219
ok so why did picrel get revealed? Why didn't they just show the entire log with private information redacted out instead of cherrypicking replies where even if taken at their most generous implies that they fucking suck at their jobs?
>>70401541
The legal team can't get her out of the company by itself, moron.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402106
But she said only legal was supposed to see them meaning she didn't send them to HR but to only the legal department (and management apparently).

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402399
this is getting depressing

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402350
>In their own termination notice,
You didn't read their official legal statement. It was copy and pasted here multiple times. Don't be a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402285
>If you're ironically saying this, I worry for you
Anon, every single person who's ever worked with that company and is currently not having their paycheck dangled above their head by Riku Tazumi sama is saying that they're untrustworthy, badly managed, and fucking suck at their jobs. Why on earth would you trust them on this?
>Why would she include evidence that she was justly fired if she's trying to argue she was unjustly fired?
She... what? What the fuck are you even talking about? Nobody said anything about unjust firing. She wanted out of the company.

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>>70394785
60-70s if you're American (+reruns)
90s if you're from Eastern Europe, because after the soviet block collapse their culture was catching up with the West so you could've seen TV series from 3 decades apart airing all at once and not even know the difference. Same with music. You could've been a fan of the music from the generation of parents and their kids at the same time and not be aware of it. Which made a lasting impact on their music btw - there were weird genres in the 90s like localized disco (which was long dead in the US) played on modern cheap synths which was popular in the 90s, and it was competing with techno out of all things
So yeah, if someone mentions Colombo I would bet my money they're not from the US

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>>70402350
I really don't even get how the hell translations can be bad enough that they fucking somehow thought an HR complaint was a fucking lawsuite and spread the entire thing around the office. Like, not even just letting them know about her complaints, but literally everyone reading the entire thing and still not clueing in.

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>>70402399
I'm refuting your claims that the legal and HR are entirely separate. There are different types of lawyers for different situations who work with different departments of huge corporations. Ultimately the fuck up was on Niji, even if they redacted everything that should have (they probably didn't) simply because they commented on an ongoing case. We don't know if Selen was trying to settle or simply find a proper way to be released by her contract but it's obvious that Niji thought they could get away with shitting on Selen. I honestly would pay out the pocket to see what kind of retarded NDA they had her signed and I would bet your ass it was not legally enforceable in Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400328
So you actually don't understand that lawyers often look at things and advise the corporation without directly revealing what they saw. Let me spell it out for you in simple terms using small words.
>be doki
>be bullied by job so hard that you try to self delete
>you live
>decide to leave job asap
>can't leave job because contract term isn't over
>talk to lawyer
>tell lawyer you want out of your contract
>your lawyer talks to job's lawyers
>job's lawyers ghost you
>your lawyer sends evidence of abuse
Now here's where things get interesting.

This is what should have happened:
>job's lawyers look at evidence
>job's lawyers say to themselves "yeah ok we fucked up"
>job's lawyers send a message to HR telling them she needs to released from contract
>job's lawyers do not share document
>termination/graduation notice is put out
>one page
>"Due to disagreements with the direction of her career, Selen Tatsuki has decided to amicably part ways. Please wish her well in her future endeavors."

This is what did happen:
>job's lawyers look at evidence
>job's lawyers say to themselves "oh shit this makes us look terrible"
>job's lawyers send evidence to livers and ask them if they did these things
>livers say "no lol"
>job's lawyers send a message to HR saying "she needs to be fired in the harshest possible way because she could ruin us"
>termination notice is put out
>three pages
>"Yeah uh she broke the rules. Also she tried to hold us legally responsible for her not being able to work here anymore. Also she claimed Livers bullied her but we decided it wasn't unjust. Shit fuck ignore that last bit, I shouldn't have said that."
>public does a double-take "livers bullied her?"
>doki says she was in hospital for suicide attempt due to being bullied
>doki never publicly says it was livers who bullied her
>livers see numbers go down anyway because of self-report
>livers sad
>livers make black screen video to play victim
>video is scheduled to overlap with doki so they can watch her reaction
>livers out themselves for seeing documents they weren't supposed to see
>elira namedrops enna and millie because she's not going down alone
>vox proves he is le retard
>ike is thirsty
>public does not believe video
>video causes all livers numbers to implode
>video is monetized because holla holla get that dolla
>riku apologizes to japanese shareholders with an english-language video
>it doesn't help

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402542
No, you just can't read English. According to Nijisanji themselves, her claims were against ANYCOLOR. Anything else there is supporting evidence, and she has never publicly claimed any organs were responsible for any form of bullying. Nijisanji is the only people self reporting.

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>>70402399
it was sent to the lawyers of the nijiJP branch, but its an HR complaint regarding the behaviour of the EN management. Of course theyre going to send it there because they need to find out if this actually has legs or if she made shit up. That doki does not know exactly whats in the document makes a lot of sense, cause her lawyer redacted certain information and then had it translated to japanese. doki does not read legal japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402617
Nah, the algorithm started pushing clips of it last year in the States iirc. It's a good show, I might watch it

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>>70402350
>ok so why did picrel get revealed?
Because it's evidence not shown in the document considering the whole document is supposed to be about how she was unjustly fired.
>They redacted things
Doki literally has shown nothing and disputed nothing. Already doing a better job than her
>The legal team can't get her out of the company by itself, moron
Ah yes, she made an HR complaint, sent it to HR, expected them to not read it despite it being their job to look at the HR complaints and wanted them to just immediately give it to the lawyers without knowing what it's about. This is actually your argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
Every time I see Columbo in the catalog I put it on thread watcher.
>>70382569
Last Columbo episode was in 2003.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402845
>Because it's evidence not shown in the document considering the whole document is supposed to be about how she was unjustly fired.
...wait, what? The document was sent to them before she was fired, genius. How on earth could she send them a document about her being unjustly fired when she was still employed?

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>>70402822
"Selen and her lawyer mentioned the possibility that they will also hold Livers affiliated with ANYCOLOR Inc. legally responsible. "

Holy fuck, you dramafags can't read

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398005
Marvel?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402995
OK cool. Now find me where Dokibird said that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402995
thats not in the screenshot anon, did you find it in your butt?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402987
About the unjust practices mentioned directly in the termination notice. Didn't know I had to spell things out

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403064
Tell me when she denied it
>>70403134
https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1757257329945497672?lang=en

I hate retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403158
The termination notice wasn't revealed until after they received the document, though. Before that, they ghosted her. How the hell would the document be responding to the termination notice with a document that's cited in the termination notice?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402987
NTA but she didn't know she was fired until she saw the termination notice. They didn't inform her ahead of time. She only found out because a friend messaged her because they saw the notice.

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>>70402845
>Doki literally has shown nothing and disputed nothing. Already doing a better job than her
NTA but doctored or otherwise cherry picked transparency is no better, if not worse, than no transparency at all. This is common sense.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402836
I don't know if you know this but if something is labeled as an HR complaint, it gets sent to the HR department and not lawyers. You also can't hold other employees "legally responsible" for your contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403241
That's not how this works. If you make a claim, you need to prove it. Otherwise, I can't believe you. Otherwise, I'm just going to say Nijisanji raped Selen at 3 AM on december 27th while she was in a coma after the attempt and they'd better provide an exact location of every single employee for that time period or else it's true because they're withholding evidence.

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>>70402844
I've noticed them too, but I assumed no one under the age of 40 in the US would really remember Colombo.
Freaking Steeve Jobs grew up watching it, that's where he got his "one more thing" quote

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403313
Yes, that's the point. The sister is seriously trying to argue that her document was a response to being fired and not a simple complaint case with sensitive information to be used as part of a battle to exit the company with as little fuss as possible.

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>>70403241
so its not in the termination notice and instead in the cope-post after the blackstream. how is your selfhatred going retardsama?

>>70403371
it wasnt labelled as an HR complaint anon, thats why nijiEN retards thought it was a lawsuit and selfreported so hard to get her to say incriminating stuff on stream.
>You also can't hold other employees "legally responsible" for your contract
no, but thats a strawman. Nobody ever claimed this was the case.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70400308
kek

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>>70402285
>They can't show evidence because that's something that's directly related to the document
So conveniently, Niji can't show any evidence because they're bound by the document being confidential, while Doki isn't bound by the document being confidential and her not showing any evidence is a sign of there being no real harassment. Interesting.

>If you're ironically saying this, I worry for you
Thank you for your concern. We're worried for you as well. Stay hydrated.

>Why would she include evidence that she was justly fired if she's trying to argue she was unjustly fired?
Bad argument, still worth looking at.

Why would she include it? According to the termination notice, she claimed she was "being harassed due to mismanagement". Certainly she'd want to include evidence of mismanagement. Why would she not include the full log of communications between herself and management on this project?

As for why it's a bad argument: why would she be arguing she was unjustly fired if she wasn't fired?

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>>70402758
>>can't leave job because contract term isn't over
You know you legally can't hold someone in a contract, right?
>job's lawyers ghost you
You know Nijisanji and Selen both say they were in constant contact, right?

>>job's lawyers send evidence to livers and ask them if they did these things
>livers say "no lol"
Ah yes, there is apparently hard evidence of them throwing her to the ground and stomping on her but they still believe them when they say I didn't do it

>she needs to be fired in the harshest possible way because she could ruin us"
>termination notice is put out
Or the public needs to know she wants to ruin us so we'll explain everything

>livers make black screen video to play victim
They showed evidence and talked about the accusations in the documents and what was in them. The only person to play victim is clearly Doki

>livers out themselves for seeing documents they weren't supposed to see
According to Doki who couldn't have seen the video yet so she wouldn't know what documents they had and who proceeded to walk back on that later but retards keep making rrats about how it was actually illegal despite Doki saying it wasn't the document she thought it was

And this whole sequence of events ignore that she threatened to sue everybody and also threatened to ruin their reputation which was used as leverage in a negotiation. Classic

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403498
This is you
>Person denies allegation
>"Holy shit, he actually did it. What a retard"
>Person reads allegations and doesn't deny them
>"Wow, I knew they were innocent all along"

You're a dumbass

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403947
Both of the things we supposedly "know" are factually incorrect, which is kind of funny. Try harder pigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403876
>Niji can't show any evidence because they're bound by the document being confidential, while Doki isn't bound by the document being confidential

Yeah, it's almost like it's her lawsuit and her information. Are you making the argument she can't post her own information if she wanted to?

>Why would she not include the full log of communications between herself and management on this project?
Because it shows her breaking the rules and being suspended for a clear reason going against the entire point of the document? Think

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382569
So many boogeyman on this board, first it was SEA, now it’s 12 year olds, what’s next, are you gonna start blaming the ghost of christmas past for every opinion you disagree with?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403668
>it wasnt labelled as an HR complaint
Oh, so she sent an HR complaint to the legal department and fully expected only lawyers to read the HR complaint instead of the HR department. You can stop pretending like this rrat is fact now

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>>70403947
>You know you legally can't hold someone in a contract, right?
...What are you even arguing here? That's literally what a contract is.
>You know Nijisanji and Selen both say they were in constant contact, right?
picrel
>Or the public needs to know she wants to ruin us so we'll explain everything
This makes no sense for them to go so heavily on the offensive. Not only did they have such an absurdly unprofessional termination notice, but doubled down on the blackbox stream after there was no public mention of the termination for a week (other than them getting clowned on for being obvious liars). We already have several examples from Hololive of terminations being short, sweet, and surprisingly enough NOT career ending for either the company or the former talent.
>They showed evidence and talked about the accusations in the documents and what was in them. The only person to play victim is clearly Doki
Doki hasn't talked about Nijisanji since her statement a week ago simply defending herself and saying not to harass anybody. Nobody's playing a victim here. On top of that, the "evidence" consisted of a single doctored conversation. If they were able to reveal this conversation, you'd think they'd be able to show more of that rather than revealing that they ghosted her for 37 hours before her hard deadline on a project that took over a year for permissions that should never have been an issue in the first place.
>According to Doki who couldn't have seen the video yet so she wouldn't know what documents they had and who proceeded to walk back on that later but retards keep making rrats about how it was actually illegal despite Doki saying it wasn't the document she thought it was
No, she specifically said that of her private information, only the diagnosis and reason for hospital stay was disclosed. Which is still really, really fucking bad.

>And this whole sequence of events ignore that she threatened to sue everybody and also threatened to ruin their reputation which was used as leverage in a negotiation. Classic
Ok so where's the lawsuit naming everyone? Clearly she meant to go nuclear according to your narrative, so where is it? Why isn't the PBD menhera professional victim going after Nijisanji instead of focusing on her career and ignoring them until they strike first?

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>>70403284
Are you retarded? The document was arguing they were harassing her and unjustly treating her poorly. Evidence of her being a shitty employee and intentionally breaking the rules goes against the idea she was being treated unjustly. It's not rocket science

[Anonymous No.]

>>70404269
More like
>person with a horrible reputation with a history of malicious lies denies allegation
>nobody believes them because of prior history
>person with completely clean record gets heinous accusations made against her; ignores it and tells fans not to attack people.
>WHY ISN'T SHE DENYING EVERYTHING? SHE'S TRYING TO RUIN THE COMPANY

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403576
Generally, there’s usually going to be a chunk of younger people who know it through their parents or grandparents.

[Anonymous No.]

Don't argue with the monkeys, they throw shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70403947
>You know you legally can't hold someone in a contract, right?
If your contract has a term, you have to either finish it or pay penalties for breaking it.

>You know Nijisanji and Selen both say they were in constant contact, right?
No they don't. https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757763627413631383
>I requested that I just wanted to move on. Sometimes I didn’t hear anything for days from the lawyers on the other side and felt like I’d be alone and isolated for a long time. It made it so hard for me mentally. On Feb 5th, my lawyer discussed and said it will be best to show the document I wrote to the other lawyers as we have not heard from them for a week or any negotiation talks or given a meeting to discuss after my request to part. It was never intended to be used for anything else, I’ve asked my lawyer to convey that and have communication that the document as it was written wasn’t going to be released anywhere, and my lawyer did so when sending the document. Less than two hours after my lawyer sent the document, the termination notice came out. I was very shocked, but thought that was the last time I will hear or think about the document and that this, personally and my own opinion, was the end of the lawyers and legal involvement.

>Ah yes, there is apparently hard evidence of them throwing her to the ground and stomping on her but they still believe them when they say I didn't do it
I didn't say they believed them. If Anycolor actually believed them they wouldn't have tried to damage control like that. I said they tried to confirm it with them.

>Or the public needs to know she wants to ruin us so we'll explain everything
Doesn't work that way. If she was saying anything that wasn't true then there would be a defamation lawsuit that would absolutely destroy Doki. There was no possible way for her to get away with spouting lies to damage the company. There was nothing to get ahead of. And if they wanted to get ahead of anything they failed really badly at it.

>According to Doki who couldn't have seen the video yet so she wouldn't know what documents they had and who proceeded to walk back on that later
You really should read all of her tweets instead of just the snippets that you see in discord sister. She didn't "walk back" anything. She was concerned that more information was sent in the document than actually was. HER lawyer confirmed that only her diagnosis and reason for hospital stay was included, not her entire hospital record. Her lawyer organized the document, and thankfully was smart enough to not include even more shit for them to leak. https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757240066265506027
>I am currently talking to my lawyer and thankfully only my diagnosis and reason for hospital stay was reported without further private info being disclosed.

>but retards keep making rrats about how it was actually illegal despite Doki saying it wasn't the document she thought it was
It IS illegal. Because PIPEDA includes just about every fucking thing you can think of. It's actually ridiculous how strict Canadian laws are on information privacy. Even her punishment is considered confidential information under PIPEDA. Which means the termination notice itself broke the law. Most foreign corporations do not understand how much of a liability it can be to work with Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70404958
OK. They have every single one of her chat logs and slack messages since her hiring. Why not use some of those? The way they painted her out to be such a horrible person, there MUST be a lot of far more incriminating examples than "you ghosted me for 37 hours on my most important project of the year, so I posted it without manager approval."

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>>70404813
>What are you even arguing here? That's literally what a contract is.
You are now arguing slavery is legal in Canada.

>picrel
"Sometimes I didn't hear anything for days". This means they were in constant contact, she said only sometimes they wouldn't respond within a day. Tell me what that means
>This makes no sense for them to go so heavily on the offensive
How else are you supposed to say "this person is trying to ruin me"?
>obvious liars
The proof they're lying is up your ass apparently
>examples from Hololive of terminations
So are Rushia and Mel memory holed or something?
>Doki hasn't talked about Nijisanji since her statement a week ago simply defending herself and saying not to harass anybody.
How is blatantly saying the people inside the company bullied her to suicide a defense? Do you know what a defense is? Why is she constantly talking about wanting things to end peacefully if she threatened to sue, held onto secret recordings, threatened to ruin their reputation and blatantly did by accusing them of harassment?
>revealing that they ghosted her for 37 hours before her hard deadline on a project that took over a year for permissions that should never have been an issue in the first place.
The " ghosting" on Christmas the manager apologized for? The deadline that Selen imposed on herself? In fact, there was no deadline.
>No, she specifically said that of her private information, only the diagnosis and reason for hospital stay was disclosed. Which is still really, really fucking bad.
Did you forget when she explicitly said that it wasn't shared?
>Ok so where's the lawsuit naming everyone?
Ask your shit bird. Unless someone in Nijisanji feels like getting the dogs sicced on them, they can't post anything. But Doki can. She just chooses not to for some reason

[Anonymous No.]

>NIjiENsisters lost to a tomato

[Anonymous No.]

None of the fucking dramatubers can pronounce Japanese names properly, not even the ones dedicated to Vtuber drama. What the fuck is this shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70405023
>history of malicious lies
When did they lie ever? Post Zaion's document and show when they explicitly lied about anything
>completely clean record
Nice joke. Why wouldn't she deny blatant lies about her? She seemed pretty willing to deny things in her Neopets stream. Unless you think she was brainwashed into singing kumbaya

[Anonymous No.]

>>70406149
>How else are you supposed to say "this person is trying to ruin me"?
This is unironically what they're arguing. Imagine losing the PR battle as a billion dollar corporation. Absolutely embarrassing all around.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402617
I'm from the US and I watched it back in like 2016 when a youtuber I was watching at the time randomly said it's a really good show so I downloaded the first ep.

I'd say it's timeless but some parts are very 60-70s, like how everyone smokes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70398344
1959 Peugeot 403 Cabriolet, don't let your dreams just be dreams

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
Personally I would have gone with
>"Just one more thing, I happened to notice you made a VERY big purchase after the AR Live was cancelled and no refunds were given, could you tell me about that?"

[Anonymous No.]

>>70406253
>show when they explicitly lied about everything
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Vj88APlsr4J_4PTxqNb5zyUli13fXupzdRmEjTI-bhw/edit#heading=h.gjdgxs
>why wouldn't she deny blatant lies about her?
She did. You just refused to read any of them. She wants to move on, every statement she's ever made has been an attempt at closure for the whole debacle. She's never attacked a single person, nor has she called for any mobilization on her behalf. The neopets stream caught her off guard as a direct attack clearly meant to distress her, and she handled it wonderfully by shutting the fuck up and talking to a real lawyer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
what do you think nijisisters imagine vox doing to them when they're smacking it

i like to imagine that he's got my dick wedged between the arch of his foot and his sandal. just slowly flexing his ankle for hours, my arms chained to his ceiling

are there any other cute dommy demon type male vtubers who might scratch that itch? i don't really wanna watch vox anymore on account of the whole throwing his colleague under the bus thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394514
I know they're still MILFs but are you seriously fucking like...55 year olds?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70389598
I wouldn't be surprised if part of it was also the "A Shinigami Eh?" Meme.

[Anonymous No.]

I went to do something useful with my life, and this jobless monkey is still here? In how many asses of contradiction has he already crawled?
Has he realized he’s dancing for us in a random ass post while Lazulight’s MV has been out for 2 hours and it’s still not at 10k views? Doki’s ccv today?

You are pulling your best and it’s not worth the circus price, NDF. Not even for your trainers. If you are worth something, at least go support them, otherwise keep dancing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
epic columbo moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>70405995
>How else are you supposed to say "this person is trying to ruin me"?
OK and how's that working out for them, sister? Did their little smear campaign work? Did they earn back the public's trust with their proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70382244
You know this show got a really large zoomer following recently thanks to those meme edit channels like Giovanni, right?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnDe2u5M7e8

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394344
It is in Nijisanji's best interest to lie, and they chose not to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70405299
>f your contract has a term, you have to either finish it or pay penalties for breaking it.
So she isn't being held in a contract. You now also have to prove that the penalties exist and that Vox is lying about people being able to leave whenever. The penalities probably doesn't exist either considering slavery is still illegal last time I checked and you can't hold someone in a job because they're too broke to pay the contract.

You know that if you're able to complain about a day or two where they don't respond, that would mean they had multiple discussions in the span of a single day. That isn't ghosting unless you think someone not responding to you immediately is ghosting

>If she was saying anything that wasn't true then there would be a defamation lawsuit that would absolutely destroy Doki
Yeah, they totally want to spend a lot of money and time suing someone across the world. Instead of trying to prevent the damage in the first place. It is still possible she'd be sued though

>She didn't "walk back" anything
You really need to learn how to listen. She said they shared her medical documents in the Neopets stream. Then she says they didn't. This is the only thing that was signed to be kept private. No other documents were signed to be private

> It IS illegal

According to you, it's illegal to do an internal investigation, illegal to tell someone they're involved in a lawsuit, illegal to tell the public why an employee was fired, illegal to tell a story about your father without his permission, illegal to call out someone's name in public, illegal to reference anyone in Canada if they don't tell you it's okay first. Oh wait, it's blatantly not

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407084
Honestly I can't complain if it means they watch the real thing too, Columbo is one of those all-time great shows that will always be good. The kids need some good tv in their lives.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70405995
>You are now arguing slavery is legal in Canada.
NTA but I'm genuinely surprised you don't understand how contracts work. If you sign a contract agreeing to do something for x amount of time, you are legally obligated to do so. Contracts also have penalty clauses in them. Those clauses activate if you break contract by doing xyz. An extremely simple example of a contract would be
>I, YOURNAMEHERE, agree to stream as a Liver for a duration of one year. Should I fail to do so, I agree to pay INSERTCOMPANYHERE $BIGNUMBERS as compensation.
Yes, it's legally binding. Assuming that you can enforce it. Which honestly Anycolor can't enforce shit. Jurisdiction fucks them here. Contract jurisdiction is the employer's country(Japan). Any Liver not living in, or owning assets in, Japan could simply give them the middle finger and walk away. Canada is not going to extradite you to Japan for a civil suit. In fact, Canada doesn't have an extradition treaty with Japan period. It would normally be extremely damaging to your reputation if you did that, but, legally speaking, Anycolor has no recourse against you. People don't do it because notorious contract-breakers don't get any future offers for jobs/sponsorships. The same way that someone known for breaking NDA is persona non grata. NDAs themselves just being another contract.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70404480
>Are you making the argument she can't post her own information if she wanted to?
I'm making the argument that it's strange that this one woman could so easily hamstring a company's ability to publicly defend itself in against claims of harassment.
It makes it sound like anyone responsible for harassment could just follow these steps to bury any attempts of speaking up, because then they wouldn't be able to show evidence without breaking a confidentiality agreement. Doesn't that sound off?

>Because it shows her breaking the rules
>Think
Her breaking the rules wouldn't absolve management of neglecting their duties after the fact. The view that the final interaction shows only Selen breaking the rules is a matter of framing; including more screenshots of interactions could very easily shift the interpretation to showing management's negligence, depending on the additional evidence.

So yes, if she is going to argue mismanagement, I would think she would include that interaction as well as other interactions with management regarding the MV.

>>70405995
>"Sometimes I didn't hear anything for days"
>This means they were in constant contact
Maybe you should keep reading:
>My lawyer discussed and said it will be best to show the document I wrote to the other lawyers
>as we have not heard from them for a week or any negotiation talks or given a meeting to discuss after my request to part
"I was ghosted for a week" doesn't sound like "constant contact".

>>70407237
>You now also have to prove that the penalties exist and that Vox is lying about people being able to leave whenever.
Penalties existing doesn't mean that Vox is lying about being able to leave whenever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407448
I can support this. There are many, many cases of Selen apologizing to fans for being unable to complete projects due to mismanagement or mistakes that would've been fixed had her managers even pretended to do their jobs, while at the same time depriving her of finding that help elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.]

ERIRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I KNOW YOU ARE HERE. PREPARE YOUR DRAGONUSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSYYYYYYY.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70406791
>show me when they explicitly lied about everything
>Posts a link and doesn't show when they lied.
Great job, schizo
>She wants to move on, every statement she's ever made has been an attempt at closure for the whole debacle.
>The statements:
"THEY MADE ME KILL MYSELF?"
>"DID THEY SEND THEM MY MEDICAL HISTORY??? WTF"
>"oh jk they didn't. but I didn't want them to
>"I DIDN'T PURPOSELY RECORD HIM, I still did record him though lol"
>"THOSE FUCKERS MADE MY DAD CRY"
Holy revisionism.
>The neopets stream caught her off guard as a direct attack clearly meant to distress her
Wow, more victim complex arguments. I guess they should never stream again when she's about to stream, while she's streaming or after she's streaming because she might take it as a personal attack. She handled it terribly by saying she'd post evidence and then suddenly becoming MLK himself next day wanting for peace

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407838
Imagine writing this embarrassing shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401077
>I didn't know you had to accuse people of harassment to get out of a contract despite it being blatantly illegal to hold someone in a contract they want to leave. If her lawyers are so smart, why didn't they pull up that law?

Retard-chama, she's still under contract up until termination. There's NDA's, outstanding monies (if any) early termination penalties (if any). Her merch was still up until termination date so her share of the profits need to be accounted for, her image and vocal talents are on various collaborative efforts, that has to be accounted for. Instead of a drip feed of small transactions, a settlement is usually negotiated and paid at a lump sum at a discounted rate. Having documented grievances against a company helps her negotiate a better deal for herself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70404646
no? I think she expected certain things to not go to anyone and they didnt, because her lawyer redacted them before the document was sent, but she didnt know how much the document still contained when she was caught offguard during blackstream and she didnt know what they were saying either since she was obviously not watching it at the time. I dont know how thats hard to understand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407448
>It makes it sound like anyone responsible for harassment could just follow these steps to bury any attempts of speaking up
No, it's pretty simple. Nijisanji doesn't want to be sued, they could easily clear their name in court but that takes too long and takes up too much resources when the damage would already be done. They can post evidence safely once the theoretical lawsuit is over.

>The view that the final interaction shows only Selen breaking the rules is a matter of framing; including more screenshots of interactions could very easily shift the interpretation to showing management's negligence, depending on the additional evidence.
Or it would include personal information of the manager or Selen they'd have to omit. Or it would be evidence of Selen harassing her manager again which would make it look like they're just trying to ruin her in return. Or they only showed the relevant information and cut the rest to ensure there's nothing in it they could be sued for. And no. Any person trying to argue that they were unjustly treated wouldn't show evidence of rule breaking

>I was ghosted for a week" doesn't sound like "constant contact
Except that they were clearly in constant contact before this which shows she wasn't ghosted. If I was going in circles with someone, I'd stop responding too

>Penalties existing doesn't mean that Vox is lying about being able to leave whenever
Still have to prove they exist and everyone who graduated had to pay to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407237
It’s illegal you exist but you don’t see us losing our ability to write over it.

>A contract without penalties
And pigs fucking fly. Anyone with a job would laught at that. Contracts have breaching penalties, anyone who signed one has seen one. It’s the point of a contract, punish who breaks it.
And if you sign a contract with an X month validity, you will be penalized to break it before the time. Only a jobless monkey wouldn’t know that, which makes you unqualified to even talk about jobs.

>She will be sued.
This is so inhuman thinking that only reading it makes me horrify at the idea you may resemble humanity. You loterally rambled with hypotesis why it would not happen and then said “but it can happen”. You are fighting with yourself and losing that. It’s truly the end of any sign of intelligence.

> the medical documents
She was informed they were sharing documents. Once again in proof you are not qualified to speak for your own sake you quoted HIPAA forgetting we are under PIPEDA. Can’t wait, in your jobless monkey exibition of how eliminating you would make the average planetary IQ raise by 1 point, for you to once again fail to remember I already proven PIPEDA applies.

>It is illegal bla bla bla.
Absolute rambling at this point, but rationality evicted you long ago. You are but a monkey dancing for us, jobless, thoughless and incapable of a single intelligence though. I command you to answer with more amusing nonsense, entertain me, monkey.

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>>70407838

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>>70408609
>Contracts have breaching penalties, anyone who signed one has seen one. It’s the point of a contract, punish who breaks it.

According to your retarded ass, you think a company is able to enslave someone if they can't pay to get out of working for them. This proves you're unemployed

>This is so inhuman
Stop clutching your pearls. They probably won't sue but they could.

>She was informed they were sharing documents
Correct, lawsuit documents. Stop pretending you're a lawyer now since you actually think it's illegal to talk about someone without their permission in Canada

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>>70407237
>You now also have to prove that the penalties exist
Penalties exist in literally every contract. They are bog standard. They are, quite literally, the only thing preventing someone from breaking a contract on a whim. It's simply an agreement to pay X amount of money in compensation for breaking another clause in the contract. Any contract without a penalty clause is, quite literally, worth less than toilet paper.

>that Vox is lying about people being able to leave whenever
Firstly, the existence of penalties does not he lied. It simply means Vox didn't tell the whole story. You can leave whenever you want(if you pay the fines). Let me ask you a question: Do you actually believe that Vox's statement meant that people could graduate when they want?

>The penalities probably doesn't exist either considering slavery is still illegal last time I checked and you can't hold someone in a job because they're too broke to pay the contract.
Nope. Doesn't work that way. Slavery is against your will. If you agree to something and then decide you don't like it? That's your problem. A deal is a deal. Also you have it wrong about them not being able to leave if they can't pay. Your cause and effect are swapped. It's not a fee to leave. It's a fine FOR leaving. First you leave. Then the company takes you to court and gets a summary judgement against you stating that you need to pay the company the amount of money you agreed to. Depending on the amount, the court will often allow you make it in payments instead of a lump sum.

>You really need to learn how to listen.
You really need to learn how to read. The tweets linked explain exactly what she said. Because she wrote them. Her lawyer simply didn't send all the information that Doki thought he did. She was worried her lawyer sent a lot more, because that would have been leaked too. Her lawyer was smart enough to only send the relevant medical documents. Which were still illegal for Anycolor's lawyers to share.

>According to you, it's illegal to do an internal investigation,
Didn't say this. You shouldn't investigate yourself though. Bad business practice. Usually audits are done by a paid third-party company though to ensure there is no bias from people auditing themselves.
>illegal to tell someone they're involved in a lawsuit,
Didn't say this. There is also still no lawsuit.
>illegal to tell the public why an employee was fired
This is actually true in Canada. You don't have to agree with it, but you should take that up with the Canadian government. Picrel. https://www.priv.gc.ca/en/privacy-topics/privacy-laws-in-canada/the-personal-information-protection-and-electronic-documents-act-pipeda/pipeda_brief/
>illegal to tell a story about your father without his permission
Now you are being silly. PIPEDA applies to organizations not individuals.
>illegal to call out someone's name in public
It is illegal for a company to dox someone yes.
>illegal to reference anyone in Canada if they don't tell you it's okay first
If you are an organization, this is effectively correct.
>Oh wait, it's blatantly not
Some of it is. The rest is silly strawman arguments.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407448
>She should post the info, it’s the victim’s job to entertain me.
No, it’s your job to entertain us, monkey. Don’t forget that. Both parties, Doki and Anycolor, have all the documents. Both parties have every right to do or not do all statements that they wish or wish not. Your abysmal existence isn’t entitled to have them dance for your amusement, that’s your job.
And what statements they do? Of admission. Riku admitted management was incompetent. The livers admitted incident did happen but said “oh that wasn’t harrassment” implying something did happen and that we should act like you and suck cocks obediently. Of course, no, especially when Elira confirmed proof of hospitalization. So we know someting happened that hospitalized Doki. Only a jobless monkey is incapable of logical though, so amuse me and prove you can’t.

The rest is not worth our time, but I command you to answe once again and amuse us, jobless monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399317
Its probably the most well-known single episode. A combination of fantastic actors and a solid story where no element seems unreasonable or out of place.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70408609
Just give it up, buddy. You're clearly arguing with a child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70408132
>Retard-chama, she's still under contract up until termination. There's NDA's, outstanding monies (if any) early termination penalties (if any).

Prove people have to pay to leave Nijisanji. You're basically saying anyone who's poor and wants to leave Niji can't and they turn into slaves

[Anonymous No.]

>>70407722
There is no greater joy than scrolling past hundreds of retarded drama posts from half-illiterate mouth breathers and seeing this at the bottom

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409419
...Sister-san, what do you think a contract is? Can you please clearly and explicitly state the purpose of a contract and give us a short example?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70406821
still haven't received an answer to this

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409419
>You're basically saying anyone who's poor and wants to leave Niji can't and they turn into slaves
No. First you leave, breaking your contract. Then a court determines that you owe the company money. Because you broke contract and are subject to a penalty THAT YOU AGREED TO in the contract that you signed. And you have to pay the money you agreed to pay(usually in installments) or face jailtime.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>70409419
>>70409738
i doubt it would persuade anyone since someone could just say niji's is different, but how many companies' contracts have been leaked? I remember some chinese one being posted here last year

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409163
Good monkey! Good, keep amusing us.

> Companies would enslave people.
In furgher proof slavery is all you did in your life, jobless monkey, you fail to understand in your pathetic strawman argument that contracts are not absolute, but yes, penalties are often very taxing. If not, one could simply not work and as long as it doesn’t break the law the worse you could do is fire him, taking all the losses. But in your life you have probably never seen a contract. Do use this time wisely, jobless monkey, it may be useful in…who am I kidding, your stubborness to keep going proves all you are good for is sucking Vox’s dick. No need for you to learn contracts.

>Lawsuit documents
Once again, he dances likea buffon i. His strawman arguments. Once again, the buffoon says no one will sue on each side, but creates lawsuit documents out of his ass. But probably the jobless monkey can’t even understand a HR complaint without evidence would just be dismissed. No lawsuit, no lawsuit documents. It should be so simple any human would know and yet you disgrace us all by calling yourself that and failing to do so.

Quick, jobless monkey, more nonsense, the thread demands you dance like a moron for us!
>Verification not required

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409778
try asking in one of the male generals. I'm sure you'll get some real recommendations. I've definitely been sent a few random guy hornybait ASMRs from friends trying to be funny, so they absolutely exist.

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>Lost to a cute tomato

[Anonymous No.]

Of all the threads to die on Riku's ballsack, why pick Columbo's Nijisluts?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409788
Very few countries have criminal liability for non-tax debts. You go bankrupt instead.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409985
i will, thank you friend :)

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that NDF:
>Has never had an actual job in an office
>Has never attended a single court case
>Has never investigated legal process of any country
>Has never read a book
>Doesn't read their own posts
>Can't speak English at a 4th grade level
>Doesn't know how to debate
>Are frequently underage, either physically or mentally
>Do not have critical thinking skills
>Are typically phoneposters
>Cannot make inferences nor understand causality
>Actually tried to argue "Women lie (source: I am a woman), so Doki is a liar" to a lawyer on his own stream
>Are using a self-diagnosis in a twitter bio that was previously deleted as their sole evidence that Doki has BPD
>Don't even know what BPD stands for, and cannot identify a single common symptom that Doki exhibits of it
>Don't know that BPD is heavily reliant on managing outside stressors, and a BPD-incited incident would in fact be legally blamed on anything that was giving her undue stress
>Will not respond to any post that has a sound, inassailable, or logically-airtight argument, and will instead cherrypick posts that make minor mistakes, or invent strawmen to tear down instead in the absence of such mistakes.
>Will lie and misrepresent facts that are provable by their own sources just to pretend they got a victory
>Made a hitlist and then tried to pretend Doki herself made the hitlist as a falseflag, even though multiple known Niji-supporters were found circulating the list on Twitter, and the Twitter account of the original poster of the hitlist was deleted shortly after knowledge of the list became common.
>Have been harassing Sayu the last 3 weeks.
>Likely include NijiEN members themselves, walking among anons to defend or deflect from their own actions.
>Primarly are invaders from the doxsite, because they got kicked out of this place ages ago
>Have previously resorted to posting tits pulled from other boards (that they pretended were theirs) to distract anons, then mass-reporting the thread said tits were posted in, and only stopped because anons got wise to the scheme.
>Have admitted to thinking that Doki having a Silver Youtube Button is, by itself, Doki throwing shade at NijiEN.
>Won't read this post, or will fall for a crack in an argument that I intentionally set up as bait earlier in this post, and immediately reply to it without reading the rest, including this line indicating that it's a bait.
>Haven't read most of the thread
>Scan the archives for mentions of NijiEN and reply aggressively to all of them.
>Self-bump their own threads when people stop taking their bait, just a link to the OP.
>Will ALWAYS ensure a Niji thread either gets mass-reported or goes to bump limit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410549
>Have been harassing Sayu the last 3 weeks
Make it a whole year

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409265
>Penalties exist in literally every contract. They are bog standard.

True. The penalties to breaking the rules is you get fired. Employment contracts don't fine you for quitting, that's called slavery if you can't pay it

>Firstly, the existence of penalties does not he lied. It simply means Vox didn't tell the whole story.
Ok. Who else but you said people in Nijisanji need to pay to leave the company?

>Doesn't work that way. Slavery is against your will. If you agree to something and then decide you don't like it? That's your problem.
Sorry, signing yourself into slavery is illegal in Canada. You can always quit a job whenever for any reason, even if you signed a contract.

>Her lawyer simply didn't send all the information that Doki thought he did. She was worried her lawyer sent a lot more, because that would have been leaked too. Her lawyer was smart enough to only send the relevant medical documents.
All complete fiction you made up. Nice story but she only said things were lost in communication, the medical documents weren't shared to the people in Nijisanji because she accused them of reading it.

>Didn't say this. You shouldn't investigate yourself though.
Okay so it's legal.

>There is also still no lawsuit.
So you're still coping about it being contract negotiations despite a legal document being shared to lawyers and lawyers only. You'll continue to be wrong then

[Anonymous No.]

Honestly after this I will just go “do we have to go columbo again” if thet tried this nonsense. Man had to be trolling, he legitimately had no idea what a fucking contract was.
How the fuck no one scammed him yet wherever he lives? He has to be a child.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410666
Yeah, it's been pretty fucked, but Sayu's been getting it even harder the last few weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410549
Death would be a mercy for these people. I motion we gather them up and put them in the oven.

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>Wall of text on both sides
You two are both retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410689
>>70409738
Please stop avoiding the question, sister-san.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410908
You're a retard that's not worth dealing with. Listen to a lawyer speaking on the legality of an employer fining an employee for quitting

>"In addition, in the eyes of the law, the clause is viewed as a “penalty” and would be considered unconscionable, which simply means that the bargain is too unfairly one side and is therefore unreasonably excessive. Courts have consistently invalidated employment contract provisions that are unconscionable. In this scenario the fact that the employee is required to pay their employer if they leave before five years certainly is unreasonably excessive and unenforceable given that there is no rational connection between the five year repayment requirement and the cost or time to train the new employee."

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409873
found it, for auroralivevr operating out of mainland china:
https://files.catbox.moe/0ksu5e.pdf
> 8.2 During the cooperation period, Party B shall not unilaterally cancel this Contract under any circumstances, otherwise it shall be liable for breach of contract as follows: (1) If Party B’s average monthly turnover is lower than 300 USD and requests unilaterally to cancel this Contract within 3 months after the start of the contract, it shall pay Party A the cost of making the virtual avatar in full (the cost of making the virtual avatar provided by Party A in this Contract is USD: 1500 USD); (2) If Party B’s average monthly turnover is lower than 300 USD and requests unilaterally to cancel this Contract more than 3 months after the start of the contract, Party A has the right to independently determine the virtual avatar fee that Party B should pay based on the actual revenue generated by Party B and the promotion and operation costs invested by Party B. Party B expresses no objection to this. But the fee does not exceed 1500 USD.
obviously since it's a chinese company operating under a different legal framework there's that, but there's an example of a termination penalty. probably not uncommon with vtubing agencies all around the world.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409969
>HR complaint

Still waiting for the explanation on why Doki would send an HR complaint to the legal department

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411107
that's from a website talking about a job a nurse, not a fixed term contract

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411107
OK, so what's the point of the contract? What would not be unreasonably excessive and unenforceable? If you can't think of one, why would anyone even make such a contract if there's no reason to adhere to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410689
Monkey! For a second I though you may have evolved. But you keep amising us with your dance.

>Contract.
Skip. It’s obvious at this point you are joking to amuse us, and have no idea what a contract even is. Or a job. Or an intelligent though.

>Documents
Quoting HIPAA again has officially granted you the right of being a moron who can’t even comprehend what Canada is. Henceforth, a day of jubilation for the human race knowing you have no ability to even gavigate outside your wherever-you-live that is not an house you own or rent, so ce you don’t have any idea what a contract is. I shall then call you jobless abusive monkey.
Itms PIPEDA and covers all documents, not only medical ones.

>Lawyers only share documents for a lawsuit.
Once again, propf you do not live in any semblance of civilized society. Lawyers are contacted often for any kind of consultation. A contract itself, to prove definitely to the world you don’t deserve to be called sapiens, IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT.

Now, dance, more nonsense, we feast on your idea that you are here for any other reason than entertain us with your inhumane screeches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70408592
>Or it would, or it would
None of that is on the topic of "why Selen would not include this in the document".

>Any person trying to argue that they were unjustly treated wouldn't show evidence of rule breaking
Disproportionate punishment is also a thing. Unjust treatment isn't limited to "I was punished for doing nothing wrong".

>They were clearly in constant contact before this, which shows she wasn't ghosted
>If I was going in circles with someone, I'd stop responding too
Once again, maybe you should keep reading:
>as we have not heard from them for a week...
>...after my request to part
She changed the topic of the negotiation, and they shut up real quick. Because the negotiation was no longer about how they'd get her to publicly say that none of what happened was management's fault.

>Still have to prove they exist and everyone who graduated had to pay to leave
How many people who graduated did so on the spot, without giving at least two weeks notice?

In NijiEN it seems like the only talent to graduate without two-weeks notice and a graduation stream was Yugo Asuma. With the graduation notice saying "after much deliberation between both parties ... we have decided to have Yugo Asuma graduate". Which certainly doesn't sound like Yugo just 'decided to quit'.

It sounds like both parties came to an agreement. It's a shame Selen couldn't because Niji stop responding when she brought up the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411331
The nurses job was a fixed term for 5 years. For them to find people who leave Nijisanji, there firstly needs to be evidence this is the case which there isn't. Secondly, that's just blatantly illegal. From the same answer:

>Restraints of trade are viewed with justifiable suspicion by the law. The clause in practice would in effect bind the employee to the employer because the shorter the employee worked, the less likely they would be to leave the employment of their own free will knowing that they would have to pay back a significant amount of money to the employer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70393653
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.]

>An exciting Neopets stream has been ruined by the presence of this... LIQUID FILTH!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411373
>OK, so what's the point of the contract? What would not be unreasonably excessive and unenforceable?

To ensure someone follows the rules and NDAs associated with the contract. If they break the contract, they get sued. They can leave the contract whenever

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411267
NTA but I can answer this, because I've worked both sides of that arrangement.
First, let me explain the primary reason for HR's existence, because a lot of people, even working corporate jobs, don't understand it. HR's main reason to exist is to prevent the company from getting sued, by managing and mediating issues that the humans within the company have with the company. This typically means that HR serves as a buffer between workers and legal, and tries to involve legal only as much as they absolutely have to. After all, retainers are expensive, but actually having somebody go to court to defend you can be even MORE expensive, especially if they might actually have a case that might make it to court.
If you are taking an HR-related complaint to Legal, it means one of a few things is happening:
>Your company doesn't have a dedicated HR staff, in which case legal would be handling the complaint in as the de-facto party
>HR has decided that the issue is above their pay grade, and has directed you to go to legal directly.
>HR is not responding, or is trying to red tape you, or is otherwise stalling, and you are prepared to Final Solution the company and take the issue to court, in which case it is no longer HR's job (as they have failed that job), and now it is Legal's problem.
>You have already lawyered up. HR does not typically speak to legal counsel, so this would go straight to Legal.
Hope this helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70410689
>True. The penalties to breaking the rules is you get fired. Employment contracts don't fine you for quitting, that's called slavery if you can't pay it
Please just google "Penalty Clause" and stop embarrassing yourself. You are actually making the entirety of the Niji fanbase look worse by sharing the same oshi as them. You are trying to die on a hill that nobody sane would ever dispute.

>that's called slavery if you can't pay it
I noticed you conveniently only quoted the sentences you wanted instead of the ones that directly addressed your arguments.
Let me quote it for you so you can't pretend you didn't see it again.
>Also you have it wrong about them not being able to leave if they can't pay. Your cause and effect are swapped. It's not a fee to leave. It's a fine FOR leaving early. First you leave early(breaking contract). Then the company takes you to court and gets a summary judgement against you stating that you need to pay the company the amount of money you agreed to. Depending on the amount, the court will often allow you make it in payments instead of a lump sum.

>All complete fiction you made up. Nice story but she only said things were lost in communication, the medical documents weren't shared to the people in Nijisanji because she accused them of reading it.
No. https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757240066265506027
>I am currently talking to my lawyer and thankfully only my diagnosis and reason for hospital stay was reported without further private info being disclosed. It was requested that none of this info should be revealed to anyone other than legal.
She was concerned her medical records were sent to Anycolor(who just leaked shit). Her lawyer told her that he only reported her diagnosis and reason for hospital stay to Anycolor. That's what it says. I know you can read this. Stop pretending you can't.

>Okay so it's legal.
You also completely ignored everything about PIPEDA because you knew it proved you wrong. Pro tip: You don't need to break information privacy laws to audit your talents for wrongdoing. The company has logs. They should have looked at those instead of asking. In fact, no competent company would ever inform someone that they are under investigation. You NEVER give people a heads up to cover their tracks. Arguing this point makes Anycolor look even more incompetent. Stop for your own sake.

Now answer my question.
>Do you actually believe that Vox's statement meant that people could graduate when they want?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383487
>netflix
so you admit to paying for kiddie porn

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411423
>Lawyers are contacted often for any kind of consultation. A contract itself, to prove definitely to the world you don’t deserve to be called sapiens, IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT.

The dumb larper continues to ignore the fact she also threatened livers with being held "legally responsible". So much for the contract rrat

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412099
OK so why aren't they suing Dokibird when she never released any statements directly slandering them, instead of going on a feral defamation campaign on her? If they have all this evidence as you claim, why even take the risk of a public defamation and not just handle it in court?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412256
Nobody claimed that Doki intended to hold anybody but Anycolor themselves responsible, except Vox, who has a long history of embellishing facts to make his stance seem stronger than it actually is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411267
You would if 1. You're smart and 2. If you have concerns about your contract, you 39IQ seanigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411596
>Disproportionate punishment is also a thing

She was suspended for blatantly disobeying a manager.

>She changed the topic of the negotiation, and they shut up real quick
No, she sent a fucking lawsuit document at them and threatened to sue other livers too so they fired her ass immediately. She requested to leave on her "good terms". You know, being fired isn't good terms

>Which certainly doesn't sound like Yugo just 'decided to quit'.
Yeah, it sounds like he was having issues with following through with the contract so they agreed he should probably just leave

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412256
Was elira specified? To tell the company that it is a possibility that theyre looking into doesnt mean that it is a lawsuit, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412256
Legal responsibility does not amount to a lawsuit.
>you are in a contract
>the contract says you work for 1 year
>the contract says you must pay x amount of money for breaking it
>you agreed to all of this when you joined the company
If YOU break the contract, then you pay the penalty. If the company accepts legal responsibility for the nullification of the contract, then the penalties are waived. That's it. Full stop.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412620
You keep throwing around 'lawsuit' when there hasnt been one, only that lawyers have been sending communiques. You sisters are 39 iq as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412620
>She was suspended for blatantly disobeying a manager.
The manager wasn't managing. They should be fired long before the person actually getting work done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70411267
if i can't smell vox's feet then neither can you. no amount of bad posting can change this for either of us, i'm afraid

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412620
>she sent a fucking lawsuit document at them and threatened to sue other livers too
Please cite your claim directly.
Where did any person indicate directly that Doki expressed intent to sue, either Anycolor or Nijisanji livers?
Please link directly to the source, with a timestamp if it is a video.
In the intrest of fairness, I will warn you that this line of questioning is a trap, because I know Legal Rule #1.
In the interest of fairness, I will also tell you that not responding to this post is ALSO a trap.

[Anonymous No.]

>Who does people hate?
Elira
>Who does people support?
Dokibird
>Whose friends side with them?
Dokibird's
>Whose friends kept being silence and showing distance while the drama happening?
Elira's
>Who has a future?
Dokibird
>Whose reputation is ruined forever?
Elira

Why are you keep protecting Elira? Her future is done for. It is gone. Everything that should't have not been done, has happened. Even if it manages to proce that Elira was in the right. None of it would have mattered anymore. So stop arguing and keep supporting your friend because she maybe no longer around anymore tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412202
I'm sorry anon, it didn't help. Sisters are so assblasted at this time they have to pick and choose the lowest hanging fruit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70413018
I just hope anons are taking this whole debacle as a good opportunity to sharpen their debating skills and research competency.
I've never cared who's right. I just want people to get better, because critical thinking and research literacy are such underrated skills these days, and they're also skills that many good employers find valuable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70409354
>>70407448 (me)
As a reminder, my string of posts started from one assertation another anon made:
>she's preventing Niji from showing evidence

I'm not saying they should post more evidence. We've already got plenty to shit on Nijisanji for. And promises of more on the horizon (unless you think the graduation queue is empty and False is teasing nothing).

Whether it's actually a Nijisister or just a larper, it has been an entertaining time. All this effort they put into a claim that Doki is evil for...keeping Niji's foot out of their mouth.

>>70412620
>She was suspended for blatantly disobeying a manager
If only Niji could stick to their word and fired her instead. Like they told her they would in May. Remember that part of the termination notice?

Oh, wait, if they fired her she could go back to work on her PL. It's more of a power play to spend a month trying to get her to take the blame and apologize to management.

>She sent a fucking lawsuit document at them
After a week of not getting a response. She requested to leave on Jan 26, she sent the document on Feb 5.

It's one sentence I'm asking you to read, for the third time now. It's not that hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412965
Ehhh, I don't know if I'd go that far. Admittedly, the information we have on her is pretty flimsy, though it's convincing. Her record as Elira Pendora (nova withstanding) was pretty squeaky clean as far as major yabs go. I think that if she wholeheartedly works to reform herself she could totally recover in a year or two like Sayu did as long as she shows real personal growth and an effort to make amends.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412242
>Please just google "Penalty Clause" and stop embarrassing yourself
Read the thread you're responding in about how illegal penalizing people for leaving your company is. Once you stop acting like slavery is secretly legal and that your retarded rrat about the document being used for contract negotiations, we can start speaking like you're respectable.

Because you seem to lack the ability to understand context clues. Here's what she's actually saying.

>I am currently talking to my lawyer and thankfully only my diagnosis and reason for hospital stay was reported without further private info being disclosed BY NIJISANJI. It was requested that none of this info should be revealed to anyone other than legal BETWEEN ME AND NIJISANJI.

Did you not read their legal statement or something? Also I like how you forgot to mention that it's definitely a lawsuit and not a contract negotiation document. That would for some reason claim people harassed her. Also I already said yes to your question, don't be retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402617
There's been a movement in the US to reject all tv, literature, and film made after 2015.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70413222
>showing growth
To whom, exactly? All the supporters and viewers had already left while people always keep talking about the stuff anyways. New viewers may watch and they will see it, and they also will leave.
Sayu grew recently mostly because of the drama. She was a hard worker, despites whatever she used to be in the past. But before this happening she was a 2 viewers for so many long time. Elira doesn't have that luxuries, and as long as Dokibird keeps rising nobody will forget about what happened between her and Elira.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412654
>If YOU break the contract
How are other employees responsible for your contract? Why would Selen include shit like claims of harassment on a contract negotiation document? Why would this be sent to lawyers and not management? Stop being retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>70413648
Still hasn't answered where the lawsuit is. Where's the lawsuit by Nijisanji for contract violations if they have so much evidence? Where's the lawsuit you're claiming exists for Dokibird trying to sue the organs? Do you have any proof of this beyond the voices in your head misinterpreting the statements they've made?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402758
By all accounts this is the truth.
>>70403947
>used as leverage in a negotiation
there was no negotiation, they locked her accounts while she was in the hospital, then ghosted her
Kuroniggi is an evil black company

[Anonymous No.]

>>70413998
You never watched sayu and it shows. Before the doki drama she was a high 3view to low 4view. It doubled her growth because lots of people forgave her overnight, but she was still very, very steadily climbing and growing consistently, even getting her own appearance in an official Genshin Impact advertisement. The dokibump definitely helped, but she came back from the brink through showing real reflection and improvement, as well as fighting back all of the hate with sheer kindness.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70412202
>>Your company doesn't have a dedicated HR staff, in which case legal would be handling the complaint in as the de-facto party

They do

>HR has decided that the issue is above their pay grade, and has directed you to go to legal directly.
Don't see how that'd be the case if claims of an employee getting harassed by another is common

>>HR is not responding, or is trying to red tape you, or is otherwise stalling, and you are prepared to Final Solution the company and take the issue to court, in which case it is no longer HR's job (as they have failed that job), and now it is Legal's problem.
Neither Niji or Selen said this was the case

>You have already lawyered up. HR does not typically speak to legal counsel, so this would go straight to Legal.

Selen said she wanted things only to be seen by lawyers. Not HR. You can't ignore that

[Anonymous No.]

>>70414496
Everything you just said is in support of the post I made, and I don't know why you bothered to reply to me as if you were arguing against what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70414123
Ask Doki for what the document is. All evidence points to it being a lawsuit considering the claims of harassment, the involvement of other employees and the use of it as leverage to not be fired. They were even legally allowed to show it to people involved, you know, like it being a lawsuit would allow them to do instead of people larping that their lawyers allowed them to break 2646 laws and witnessed them consume fetuses

[Anonymous No.]

>>70402758
>ike is thirsty
this gets me every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>70414653
I know but I know some people will see that and immediately twist shit to cut their rrats. It's just clarification

[Anonymous No.]

>>70414496
>They do

[Anonymous No.]

>>70413648
>how illegal penalizing people for leaving your company is.
Penalty for early termination of contract is in every contract. I guess literally every company in the world is breaking the law. Why don't you be honest and admit you have never worked a job and don't know how to even use google.
>disclosed BY NIJISANJI
Yes because she totally asked Nijisanji and Nijisanji totally responded truthfully to her. She would also definitely believe their statement. Are you actually serious?
>forgot to mention that it's definitely a lawsuit
I didn't forget to mention it. Because it isn't one. Lawsuits are public record. If there was a lawsuit the entire world would know about it. Anycolor wouldn't even need to tell us. We could find the court documents online. Not sure how you don't understand that. Just because someone is claiming that a person wronged them does NOT mean they immediately jump to a lawsuit. Let me give you some examples.

>i punch you in the face
>you sue me
>lawsuit is public record

>i punch you in the face
>you know you deserved it because of past wrongdoings and you don't want me bringing up evidence in court
>you let it go
>not public record

Now answer my question.
>Do you actually believe that Vox's statement meant that people could graduate when they want?

>>70414075
>How are other employees responsible for your contract?
The company is allegedly responsible for harassing her to the point of attempted suicide. She cannot work under those conditions. She sought acknowledgement that it was their responsibility. Which is why mismanagement was cited as her claim in the termination notice. "Your mismanagement has led to me being unable to fulfill my contract, therefore I should not be required to pay penalties for ending it early".

>Why would this be sent to lawyers and not management
Firstly, management should NEVER be involved to begin with. A party with claims of wrongdoing against them would never be asked to resolve the issue themselves. And as far as we know, from Anycolor's own self-report, mismanagement was one of her claims. HR would be the people that would normally tackle disputes between employees or an employee and the company. However, when a lawyer is involved on one side, the other side must get their lawyers involved. It has already escalated beyond HR's ability to handle it. It would be monumentally stupid to let HR handle a dispute of that magnitude. Doki lawyered up to get out of her contract. HR passes it to legal because failing to do so is a great way to never work in a corporate setting again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70414827
She said it already. It's basically like a little diary of all the shit that went down and upset her over the last several months, with receipts. It was never meant to be used as ammunition directly, and them translating and sending it was a final bit of evidence in her case to get them to let her go. It was meant to be confidential and nobody other than legal (or possibly HR if absolutely required) should have ever been allowed to read it. Nobody other than the sisters have ever claimed it to be a lawsuit. Doki hasn't. Nijisanji hasn't. The organs themselves haven't. You're chasing ghosts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70387060
Ok I fucking laughed in public asshole

[Anonymous No.]

>>70415053
>Penalty for early termination of contract is in every contract
You ignore the evidence that having to pay a fine for terminating an employment contract is obviously illegal.

>Yes because she totally asked Nijisanji
Yeah because she said so herself multiple times and so did Niji. What a retard

>didn't forget to mention it. Because it isn't one. Lawsuits are public record
It's a lawsuit threat, you idiot

>Do you actually believe that Vox's statement meant that people could graduate when they want?
Do you actually not know how to read?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70414903
You have, in your attempt to clarify, inadvertedly created flaws that aren't real, which are more vulnerable than the post I made was.
You wasted effort by countering an argument that didn't exist yet. You'd think that watching Niji themselves fail with this strategy would discoruage people from using it, but clearly the lesson is not sinking in properly. PREPARING a counter beforehand and USING a counter beforehand are different. You always want to be ready, but you never want to assume the opponent's argument before they make it. That's how you get trapped in narrow lines of logic, which leaves your argument defenseless against people willing to exploit any imagined edge they can snag.
Take this opportunity to improve, and try again.

[Anonymous No.]

>retards unironically arguing with 39iq and not realizing it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70415643
So if it's illegal why isn't every single country in the world being sued for it? Don't you think we'd have found some form of replacement?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70394344
Everyone who has left considers NijiEN management to be full of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70415767
No, I realize it.
However, I enjoy arguing and will take any chance I get at improving myself. Each sister that refuses to reply to my well-crafted logic is a victory, much like how a punching bag will only smack you back if you're using it poorly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70415643
>You ignore the evidence that having to pay a fine for terminating an employment contract is obviously illegal.
In which country? Certainly not in Japan. Which is where the contracts were drafted.
>Yeah because she said so herself multiple times and so did Niji. What a retard
Well if she's said it multiple times then I'm sure any ambiguity must have been cleared up. Cite every single instance. Let's find out who is correct.
>It's a lawsuit threat, you idiot
Which is not a lawsuit. And therefore, no parties need to be informed of it. Because they aren't being sued. Exactly what is your point again?
>Do you actually not know how to read?
Answer the question. You haven't answered it yet. I want to hear the words from your mouth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70415997
Holy shit that's an amazing quote. I'm gonna steal it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70415187
Oh, so it's a diary that just so happened to include recordings, claims of harassment, medical documentation that just so happened to be used to hold people "legally responsible" and was sent to a lawyer.

Why is HR the last resort and not the legal department? Are you fucking stupid? Also if she got let go, why would she complain and do exactly what Nijisanji said she would? Explain how the diary is supposed to hold other employees legally responsible for her contract. Is Ike Eveland supposed to be the one to terminate her contract despite her clearly being upset the livers got to see it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416083
It's not supposed to hold the employees liable to her contract, anon. It's supposed to get her to end it. The management is the issue and always has been. Employees would've never gotten to this point if they were managed properly. Your strawmen are about as worthless as your company's stock futures.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70397622
Yeah Im starting to remember why I worked with the rrats to krill your company. Maybe its time to do a free smear campaign whenever a Niji future TALENT fucks up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70399076
Saving this cause if she does graduate there will be the biggest coffee campaign you'll ever see on /vt/. Like legitimate Coffee ads.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70413203
>If only Niji could stick to their word and fired her instead

It's almost like both her and Nijisanji didn't want to have her terminated until their hand was forced

>After a week of not getting a response. She requested to leave on Jan 26, she sent the document on Feb 5
Learn to read. She started talking to them about a peaceful graduation on the 26th, her lawyers wouldn't have told her to send the document a fucking week after she wanted to leave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416083
NTA but HR isn't being called a last resort. He's saying that HR might ALSO need to be aware of it in certain circumstances(realistically they would not). Legal is always the last resort. It's also not supposed to hold employees liable. Even the termination notice said that the bullying was claimed to be "due to mismanagement". Management was always the one being blamed. She's never publicly stated that she has any intention, or ever had any intention, of suing any Livers. The only time that has been said was the Termination Notice which notably had other falsehoods in it. Which unfortunately makes their word worth less than my used toilet paper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70401362
I wouldn't doubt it. Her idea of content was streaming shit she found on reddit

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416521
She was negotiating. Clearly she either wanted a quick graduation, or a silent termination ala Yugo. One way or the other, she wanted to be out without creating a giant stink. So what did Niji do? They made it themselves and ruined their reputation in ways she never could've dreamed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416070
>In which country? Certainly not in Japan. Which is where the contracts were drafted.

Apparently Japan allows people to be financially punished for leaving an employment contract which is effectively slavery. Mind proving it?

>Well if she's said it multiple times then I'm sure any ambiguity must have been cleared up
Her Neopets stream, her two different tweets about the medical history, her last tweet about the documents.

>Which is not a lawsuit. And therefore, no parties need to be informed of it.
Learn the law before you start speaking about it. They're allowed to know about a potential lawsuit they'd be involved in as well.
>Answer the question. You haven't answered it yet. I want to hear the words from your mouth.
Learn to read, it was already said

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416834
>Clearly she either wanted a quick graduation,

No she didn't. Otherwise Niji wouldn't tell her she would have to follow activity rules for that point on. She also would have just left the contract immediately, not a single person here was able to prove there's any penalty for leaving

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416539
>Termination Notice which notably had other falsehoods in it

No it doesn't. If you don't have proof that they're lying about what happened and Doki never denied any of it, stop saying they're lying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417048
I appreciate that you tried to wait until archive so you could get the last word.
>Apparently Japan allows people to be financially punished for leaving an employment contract which is effectively slavery. Mind proving it?
Financial punishment for breaking a contract is not slavery. Prove otherwise.
>Her Neopets stream, her two different tweets about the medical history, her last tweet about the documents.
Nope. I want timestamps and images. Not vagueposting.
>Learn the law before you start speaking about it. They're allowed to know about a potential lawsuit they'd be involved in as well.
Not by revealing confidential information they aren't.

>Learn to read, it was already said
No it wasn't. If it was you wouldn't mind just saying Yes or No to the question. But don't worry, I'll give you the answer you fear.

>they can leave whenever they want
Pomu's graduation was known internally in July of last year. Maria said she knew about it then, and she implied she was late to the party on learning about it. Pomu didn't get to graduate until January.
https://youtu.be/bW24zVTsFBI?t=8230

Not good enough? That's okay. Let's hear about the graduation queue straight from the dog's mouth.
Mysta stream 1 month before his graduation:
>I had decided to graduate before she(Nina) had
>I had already had conversation with management around 5 months ago in regards to graduation
>Believe it or not, graduation actually takes quite a long time
It's not a rrat if livers themselves confirm that it takes a while to graduate.
https://youtu.be/JkuIiCRJFQc?t=961

Maybe next time don't take a PR piece so seriously and instead listen to what they say in actual streams; when they don't have an incentive to cover the company's ass. You know what happens when you end a contract early? You run into penalty clauses. Which are conditional fines imposed to ensure you don't break your contract in the first place. Remember when WACTOR tried to charge someone tons of money for quitting? Yeah that kinda shit.
>you can leave whenever you want
>if you leave before we let you then we will fine you
These two statements are not contradictory, but any rational mind would agree that the latter makes the former disingenuous at best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416208
Is this a GUrat post? I thought you retards died due to natural selection

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417381
Anycolor claimed Doki didn't pay artists. Artists spoke up saying she was the one who paid out of pocket because Anycolor ghosted them. Therefore, Anycolor lied.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417470
two rs you dumbfuck
and what do you mean died, its pretty much undeniable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417048
Her neopets stream clearly said that they weren't supposed to read the document. She just said she was glad that her lawyer only put in the reason for her hospital stay and diagnosis into what he sent them. It doesn't absolve them of handing out confidential documents like candy. You're making shit up again, sister. Please cite your sources. Also, lawsuits are public records, sister. If they knew about the lawsuit, we'd know about it too. You're not convincing anybody.

>I honestly wish I could've met you all one last time [as Selen], and I cried when I couldn't. But I hope I can still meet you all in the future, even if I'll be a little different.

Sure sounds to me like she wanted to leave in a nicer way, possibly through a graduation by contract negotiation? Hmmm...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417470
There is no known evidence to refute it. If you have some the feel free to make a new thread to discuss it, since this one is about to close.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417470
How on earth did you come to that conclusion? Talents not being tard wrangled and going offleash is absolutely a management issue.
>>70417276
If there's no penalty for leaving, why have a contract? You really don't know how stupid you sound right now, do you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417389
>I appreciate that you tried to wait until archive so you could get the last word

You're a woman

>Financial punishment for breaking a contract is not slavery. Prove otherwise.
Prove it's legal in Japan to financially punish people for quitting your company

>Nope. I want timestamps and images. Not vagueposting.
Do your reps

>Not by revealing confidential information they aren't.
The "confidential information" involves them. They have to read what they might be put in court for to know how to either defend against it or testify

>Pomu's graduation was known internally in July of last year. Maria said she knew about it then, and she implied she was late to the party on learning about it. Pomu didn't get to graduate until January.
Pomu planned in advance

>Believe it or not, graduation actually takes quite a long time

Graduation preparation like songs and streams take a long time. Not actually leaving like Yugo

>Maybe next time
I stopped reading this paragraph here

You have yet to prove a fine existe

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417649
>Please cite your sources

She said she specifically signed for her medical history to be private and said "the fact that they shared that is illegal". Unless you think she's talking about her own lawyer, she's talking about Niji

>>I honestly wish I could've met you all one last time [as Selen], and I cried when I couldn't. But I hope I can still meet you all in the future, even if I'll be a little different.
Wow, this directly proves she wanted to stay in Nijisanji as a streamer for a graduation stream. Thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417886
>ad hominem
>no u
>it came to me in a dream
>i don't understand the legal system
>i didn't watch the videos
>i can't read
>i don't understand contracts
At least make an effort with your responses anon. Don't tell me you are ACTUALLY Daph? If so, let me ruin your day. I'm a straight white male. Uki, if you are in this thread: Hello.

[Anonymous No.]

Just gonna leave this here. Keep seething for eternity, I wish death upon you all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70383016
t. Filipino

[Anonymous No.]

>>70416521
>Learn to read
>She started talking to them about a peaceful graduation on the 26th
Well...yes. That's my point.
>Her lawyers woulnd't have told her to send the document a fucking week after she wanted to leave
This is a confusing direction to take. She was still in the company "after she wanted to leave", so what makes you think her lawyers wouldn't suggest sending the document to get urge negotiations to progress?

It sounds like you think Doki wanted to leave the company on the 26th. What Doki actually said was that Fri, Jan 26th was the day she brought up the topic of her "leaving on more neutral terms". She sent the document on Mon, Feb 5th, 10 days later, after "hearing nothing for a week". She tried to start negotiations, maybe got a response on the next business day, then got nothing back until she was fired.

>It's almost like both her and Nijisanji didn't want to have her terminated until their hand was forced
It's almost like NijiEN management would have to explain to main branch's management if they wanted to fire Selen and they were hoping to avoid that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70418136
Yes, and they shared that illegal medical information to the others, on top of the document itself which was marked "do not fucking share with people outside legal" What on earth are you trying to say here?

>Wow, this directly proves she wanted to stay in Nijisanji as a streamer for a graduation stream. Thanks
Yeah you've never watched Selen. Have fun, sister.

[Anonymous No.]

What's so hard to understand. Doki's lawyer power moved on Niji and they freaked the fuck out. Maybe if the place wasn't a shit hole full of bad people they wouldn't have over reacted and fucked up multiple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70418397
Thats the thing isnt it, its not about JUST doki. Its the entire shitshow that is nijiEN.
NDF is desperately trying to hyperfocus on doki so no one notices the closet full of skeletons.
Doki is nothing more than Ferdinand, the first domino to put everything in motion.

I am here for the spectacle. Not the individual domino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70417782
>if there's no penalty for leaving, why have a contract?

To make sure people don't break the activity rules and don't break the non compete and the NDAs? To make sure they understand the rules in place? You act like a contract only exists to keep people prisoner