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An idol that is born not just from natural talent, but from sheer determination and extreme hardwork

Hololive will survive for decades to come as long as there are members who are passionate about being an idol and they do it because they want to

>> No.70270065

too bad it's all offset by her love of homos

>> No.70270112

/vt/ hates Holos like Kiara and Bae but they put the most effort into their careers
IMO they deserve to be the most liked because they actually do their damn jobs

>> No.70270263

>>70270065
Can you unicorns stop thinking about dicks for once ? I have seen a weird increase of this during the concert. That's pretty homo to you

>> No.70270567

>>70270263
Tell whore rat to stop adding homos in her lives then!

>> No.70270773

>>70270567
Go simping for Kanata or the twin dogs instead then. I would also recommend Michael but that would be too much for you. They won't hurt your feelings

>> No.70271789

>>70270065
Her love of holostars is what puts her above the rest.

>> No.70271911

>>70270112
Now that Bae is in Japan half of the resources that get wasted on shit like Marine and Pekora should be diverted to her.

>> No.70271964

>>70270112
Kiara deserves the flack she gets for being whiny and annoying when things aren't going her way, and making each member congratulate her when she finally comes up with a half decent idea.

>> No.70272615

>>70270263
>Can you unicorns stop thinking about dicks for once ?
your vtuber girlfriend has voice sex with males which makes you a cuck
any girl who collabs with men has sex irl too btw
>she's a virgi-
on-stream voices are literally penises
go outside take meds touch grass have sex get female friends projection you're a cuck stop using buzzwords schizo retard cringe

>> No.70272687

I love my oshi so damn much, bros...

>> No.70272718

>>70269873
bae is a decent chuba, but by no means an idol. Sure, actual idols work with males, but she practically lusts after them.

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>>70270263
>>70270773
>That's pretty homo to you
>Go simping for

>> No.70273048

>>70269873
So what you're saying is...
Don't be lazy like Gura.

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70273105

>>70272615
>your vtuber girlfriend has voice sex with males which makes you a cuck
any girl who collabs with men has sex irl too
btw
on-stream voices are literally penises
go outside take meds touch grass have sex get female friends projection you're a cuck stop using buzzwords schizo retard cringe

>> No.70273159

>>70271964
I fucking agree with this.

>> No.70273232

>>70270263
>Talk about idols
>Complain about people who dislike Bae being overly intimate with males
?

>> No.70273258

>>70269873
They need more members who are boring and yell too much? No thanks

>> No.70273299

>>70272718
Actual virtual idols have defaulted to "no male interactions for virtual idols" since the .LIVE days. There's a reason that NoriPro's "idol" division had a no male collab rule, and why it stopped being called the "idol division" when they dropped that rule. Unless Bae starts fleshstreaming, she isn't an idol, and unless she stops collabing with men, she isn't a virtual idol.
The virtual youtuber world had decided that virtual idols don't collab with men long before the EOPs here, and even before Bae herself, even knew what a fucking vtuber was, much less a virtual idol. And they sure as shit have no say in the matter now.

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>>70273105
TELL ME WHYYYYYY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byz94fkwf6U

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>>70272615
>your vtuber girlfriend has voice sex with males which makes you a cuck
any girl who collabs with men has sex irl too btw

>> No.70273392

>>70270065
This, I'll never watch any homo lovers.

>> No.70273396

>>70269873
I hope she graduates soon

>> No.70273401

>>70273299
none of this shit is relevant because Sora collabs with males

>> No.70273421

>>70273105
okay cuck
your oshi isn't your girlfriend and that's pathetic

>> No.70273488

>>70273339
>anti-unicorn
>posting wojacks
pottery
keep going please

>> No.70273584

>>70269873
You think she thanks roberu and shien too?how do you think she did it?

>> No.70273653

>>70273299
You unicorns are really pathetic.

>> No.70273698

>>70273488
>internal seethe
Now say that without crying

>> No.70273702
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The real truth is, no one actually gives a shit about unicorns, and actually want to ignore them since they are no where near as valuable as they think they are.

The REAL reason why Hololive humors them is cause they're absolutely fucking terrified one of them will snap and Oshi no Ko one of their talents with a knife Bouquet because the voices in their heads told him that his oshi dared acknowledge the male vocal instructors existence yesterday, and that was cheating on him somehow.

>> No.70273749

>>70270065
/thread

>> No.70273751

>>70273299
>look at all of these failed examples of vtuber idol groups that were unsuccessful and dropped in less than a year with half the talents retiring and the other half malecollabing the moment the project ended. THIS is what we should aspire to
Hololive's massive success in cgdct was an abberation, and most of its fans arent and werent fans outside of hololive. They are the 'just be gura' corp.

>> No.70273753

>>70273401
...And? Being a daisenpai of Hololive doesn't endow her with literally every conceivable characteristic possible. She isn't even close to the most idol like member nor does she even fucking claim to be. If you want THE idol archetype of Hololive who repeats her desire to be an idol more than any other member, you would be citing Kanata. Fucking retard.

>> No.70273796

>>70273702
The first paragraph is true
The second paragraph is just nonsense
It's just a fucking 2/4chin meme

>> No.70273805

>>70273702
Dont use my wife to shitpost faggot

>> No.70273835

>>70273698
out of wojacks?

>> No.70273889

>>70273653
Not as much as you fake as fuck v-idol fan LARPers

>> No.70273890

>>70273702
>This person is doing something I do not approve of
>Let me seethe and act like a butthurt child
>That will show them
>Women respect this kind of behavior
Do Unicorn-keks really? You are literally fighting like a women, what a bitch move. Go collab with males and become who you were already meant to be, the needy bottom.

>> No.70274032

>>70273890
I think you need to re read that post anon.

>>70273796
They are absolutely terrified of being stalked tho.

>> No.70274037

>>70270112
Don't even dare to compare Bae to Kiara. Bae is the true definition of someone who is striving to be an idol. Meanwhile Kiara decided she would prioritize her cats over idol activities.
The actual idols you're thinking of are Bae and Mori. In fact Mori is probably one of most idol-like girls in all of Hololive, including JP.

>> No.70274084

>>70270065
FPBP

>> No.70274085

>>70271964
She had the most botched career in EN right beside Sana.

Her design was such a massive debuff.

>> No.70274135

>>70269873
Bae is a true fucking idol. Continue supporting her brats. She genuinely enjoys the idol side probably even more than streaming

>> No.70274178

>>70273751
>calling .LIVE a failed example
I hate you newfags so fucking much
>calling noripro a failed example
just because you don't remember the time the idol div girls raked in cash doesn't mean we're all retards like you
>just be gura
Hololive was a fucking behemoth before myth was even announced you hell-blasted troglodyte

>> No.70274206

>>70273702
It's ironic how unicorns are so fucking autistic and delusional that they don't realize that their behavior naturally repels any girl, idol or otherwise.
That's right, unicorns. Your oshi would think you're a possessive creep if she ever met you.

>> No.70274268

>>70273796
>The second paragraph is just nonsense
so much of a meme that tons of vtubers pander to them

>> No.70274280

>>70272718
>>70273232
Where do lying faggots like this come from? There's not a single instance of Bae "lusting" after the stars in the same way you might see in nijisanji. Her interactions are all very respectful and professional

>> No.70274318

>>70273396
She's staying until the boat sinks

>> No.70274361

>>70274206
my oshi is literally openly a unicorn
I am too powerful for you

>> No.70274437

I think Unicorns just deflect and seethe with Bae because they know she genuinely loves her fans and gives her 110% for them but in the process, she doesn't compromise her morals and treats everyone with respect and kindness l.

>> No.70274513

>>70274268
Yes. That's how this irony-based bottom text society works.

>> No.70274516

>>70274437
You forgot that it's also the fact that she's a genuine true idol and that revelation makes them seethe

>> No.70274619

>>70274361
No one's talking about male oshis here.

>> No.70274633

>>70274437
That's pretty much it yeah. Bae is very close to an EN sora equivalent but realistically that's Mori since she was the first

>> No.70274657

>>70269873
if I still cared to watch holo at all, I'd probably watch bae and/or mumei. they seem like the best that EN has going for them at point

>> No.70274688

>>70274437
Nah, I just think it's not for me that she can't even give the bare minimum to her fans(genuine romantic love), but then brats are always, always, without fail, the ones on the catalog who angrily claim that it's impossible for your oshi to love you romantically. And then have the gall to pretend that it isn't them. Don't pretend like you didn't start this by attacking first. You even defend your doing it.

>> No.70274711

>>70272615
NGL this is the cringiest post I've seen all month

>> No.70274734

>>70274437
Love rrat
Breed the rrat

>> No.70274827

>>70274513
society man please go back to reciting 5ch shitposts about pekora or whatever it is you do in nijiJP

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>>70274688
>she can't even give the bare minimum to her fans(genuine romantic love)
kek, there's no way this is an actual take
this has to be satire

>> No.70274886

>>70274711
but you're so much cringier than it bro

>> No.70274913

>>70274688
Oh her love is as genuine as it gets. Actively sacrificing her health and draining her bank account faster than Selen to provide content for her fans. She quite literally goes above and beyond every chance she gets because to quote her:
>As long as you guys are happy and having fun, that's all that matters to me. Thank you for letting me be your idol.

>> No.70274994

>>70270112
people hate them both for being loud with annoying voices but apart from that; bae gets hate for homos and kiara gets hate for being the most abrassive memeber in all of holo while being juxtaposed to some of the most passive members and then having the most obnoxious fanbase
all of that gives enough fuel to easily anti kiara but unicorns are retarded for still bothering with bae they embody the "enter a thread i hate only to get mad" meme. sad pathetic braindead behavior

>> No.70274999

>>70274619
My female oshi is literally a unicorn, as in she believes that female vtubers should not collab with men, as a female
You know nothing outside of your cuck bubble which is why you think that unicorns are some insignificant thing when you have multiple 4 and even 5 view vtubers out there agreeing with them

>> No.70275017

>>70270065
fpbp as usual

>> No.70275086

>>70269873
They have them already. It's called Advent.

>> No.70275124

>>70274913
And yet, she does not desire her fans romantically. Which as I said, is the bare minimum.
>>70274872
I see that the tradition of an awful post next to a selen image continues on

>> No.70275162

>>70274437
Unicorns want women to be typical self serving GFE whores. That's not really a revelation

>> No.70275207

>>70274085
>massive debuff
her behavior is the massive debuff. if you're a nightmare to work with, people wont work with you.

>> No.70275226

Brats I'm sorry your oshi isn't more popular but no amount of catalog threads claiming that's she's the EN Sora or Towa or whoever is going to change that

>> No.70275234

>>70274999
>My female oshi is literally a unicorn, as in she believes that female vtubers should not collab with men, as a female
And you believe her? Kek.
You know what? It's better that way, otherwise you'd hurt yourself or someone else.

>> No.70275302

> vsinger
> bae puts out an album before her

What did she mean by that? But anyways enough gripes with the others (*cough* Fauna that's made one song and nothing else in 2 years)

Bae, I kneel.

>> No.70275305

>>70274437
Too bad she only love holostars

>> No.70275405

>>70275234
I'm sorry you got cucked

>> No.70275416

>>70275124
>My love language is acts of service/gift giving, I have never been good with words and the only way I know how to express my love for others is through gifts or doing stuff for them.
Her direct words
Actions also happen to speak louder than words. Since the beginning of time.

>> No.70275490

It's funny how bae brings out all the homo defenders and anti-unicorns. What a tragic fanbase

>> No.70275498

>>70275234
Considering I personally know a female unicorn vtuber viewer and have seen others out in the wild? Yeah. Unlike you, I enjoy talking to all kinds of different people.
But also, thank you for providing yet another example of why brats are the ones responsible for the shitposting.
>"my oshi is [x]"(contains 0 mention of anyone else)
>brat sees post
>"HAHAHA NO WAY SHES REALLY A WHORE BTW I LOVE BAE"
The above exchange is you
That is what you sound like, brat
Now go ahead and pretend like you aren't one using all the cope and gaslighting your little head can imagine
You did this
And you're proud of it, too

>> No.70275527

>>70275226
No amount of seething about Bae is going to change the fact that she's an idol who loves her fans.

>> No.70275594

>>70275498
Good job falling for a false flag while ignoring the actual brat in the thread because you lack arguments. Shit for brains truly

>> No.70275604

>>70275086
remember when bae tried to sabotage fuwamoco by telling them to take it easy

>> No.70275663

>>70275124
>romantically, bare minimum
holy shit. I thought you guys were a myth. Did you not learn from Rushia, Yuko, Finana?

>> No.70275668

>>70275124
nobody is buying your unicorn LARP

>> No.70275704

>>70275490
Because unicorns are the ones shitting on Bae and other homocollabers when they're bored

>> No.70275719

>>70275604
How is it sabotage? the ruffians said to take it easy too. They were working themselves to death, or worse, burnout. Hololive isn't some rat race.

>> No.70275725 [DELETED] 

>>70269873
How much cock does she suck per month again?

>> No.70275732

>>70275663
>>70275668
I spoke too soon. some tard bought that shit hook line and sinker

>> No.70275735

>>70275490
It's funny how Unicorns can't stay in their lane without shitting on Bae. Truly an ironic situation. I don't mind their existence but they just can't seem to stay in their lane and just continually exhibit sister-like name-calling behavior.
Your parents might not have taught you this but it's called talk shit, get hit.

>> No.70275770

>>70275732
Sorry, I'm a newfag. Still learning the ropes.

>> No.70275795

>>70275719
meanwhile bae was planning all this shit and moving to japan?
its obvious she didnt want any competition

>> No.70275798

Brrats only way of propping up baelz is to kick every other girls down what a piece of shit fanbase

>> No.70275812

>>70275416
Baesed rat

>> No.70275839

>>70275798
This but with Unicorns

>> No.70275849

>>70275795
I think you're reading too much into it, anon. They were doing like 2-5 streams a day with no days off at that time, and they kept it going for over 3 months. They only recently started slowing down before their own move.

>> No.70275853

>>70275735
Get hit by what? Bae's miniscule fanbase who desperately tries to shill her on the catalog whenever she does anything noteworthy?

>> No.70275885

>>70270773
The homo collabs in EN have actually dried up ever since the two EN homos graduated and Advent debuted. I think Bae is the only one who consistently collabs with them for something that's not a song. Even Calli barely interacts with them anymore.

>> No.70275895
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Unicorn Thinking Cuck 24/7

>> No.70275898

>>70275798
I only see brats shitting on Unicorns who are claiming Bae doesn't love her fans and isn't an Idol. The anti unicorn preacher is a blatant falseflagger

>> No.70275949

>>70270263
>no dick mentioned, just men in general
>projecting homotrannie immediately thinks this is referring to cocks and blames this delusion on the post

>>just watch my homo collabing whore chud and shut up
>no I don’t want to watch male collabs
>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHY DO YOU BRING UP DICKS UP ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE YOU GAAAY??

The mind of a homobeggar is truly baffling

>> No.70275955

>>70275853
I'll take your concede.

>> No.70276020

>>70275416
They certainly do, which is why her constant interactions with her male co-workers, which is now not only an issue between her and her fans but also a potential source of awkwardness between herself and her female co-workers
To name just a few examples, consider biboo dropping all comments specifically when homos were on stage, fuwamoco going quiet while she didn't, individuals not calling onto the totsu, and that's just publicly visible friction. And we can't use the "unicorn and non-unicorn holo interactions never have friction" excuse because we have had Kanata herself reference exactly such a friction occurring between her and Suisei one time over an interview that originally was intended to include a male guest.
So forgive me but I simply do not buy the "she just respects and is kind to everyone" option, especially when it comes to the broader interests of both the fanbase and even furthermore the interests of other holos and THEIR fanbases

The inability to pick a side when you must is not a kindness. And it isn't love. It's stubbornness.

>> No.70276053

>>70275849
she said it right after new years when she was doing all of this shit
shes a snake

>> No.70276093

>>70275949
>>>>>just watch my homo collabing whore chud and shut up
>no I don’t want to watch male collabs
>>WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHY DO YOU BRING UP DICKS UP ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE YOU GAAAY??
Nobody has said this to (You) so you decided to project it to yourself. Really fucking delusional.

>> No.70276100

>>70276020
Is Bae really that oblivious to not see that huge disparity between her and the other member who obviously don’t want to collab with homos?

>> No.70276131

>>70275885
>Even Calli barely interacts with them anymore
I wonder what happened behind the scenes. Mori is pretty chill nowadays unless it involves the girls. When the music fag tried to shit on the dogs, Mori removed his work from her intro and blocked the fag.

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>>70276053
Anon, If I remember right, this was their schedule that week that she said it...

>> No.70276203

>>70276093
>Can you unicorns stop thinking about dicks for once ? I have seen a weird increase of this during the concert. That's pretty homo to you
Lmao is it normal for homoniggers to embarrass themselves by just not reading the discussion?

>> No.70276289

>>70276203
>Thread is about Bae being a hard worker with an inspiring message
>>>too bad it's all offset by her love of homos
Retardicorn deflection as usual.

>> No.70276315

>>70276198
and it was glorious
totally worth it

they truly love the ruffians

>> No.70276324

>>70274913
It's not as selfless as you make it out to be. She makes content to promote and benefit herself, just like everyone else.

>> No.70276327

>>70276020
The existence of Sora invalidates your thoughts. There is no "Friction" here and Bae won't ever try to mingle the two together. I think the segregated lineups of today's concert say enough.

>> No.70276337

>>70269873
no thanks, you can keep that shitbag whore and her homo collabs. the less like her the better

>> No.70276364

>>70276289
Yeah, point is she would be a lot better if not for her male collabing you stupid retard. Homosister makes this into "thinking about dicks".
It’s fine to be gay in this day and age but it’s not nice to project it on everyone else

>> No.70276389

>>70275949
You shit for brains really lack any and all self awareness and the concept of talk shit get hit

>> No.70276519

>>70276364
>Yeah, point is she would be a lot better if not for her male collabing you stupid retard.
Lol sure. Immediate backpedal.
>Homosister makes this into "thinking about dicks".
Because it's the only thing you tardicorns post whenever it's literally anyone who homocollabs.
>It's fine to be gay in this day and age but it’s not nice to project it on everyone else
Take your own advice.

>> No.70276580

>>70276131
Mori has come to realize the true appeal of Hololive. There's only one straggler left in EN.

>> No.70276615

>>70276389
Lmao you said random projecting bullshit and get called out for it it’s that simple

>> No.70276631

>>70276364
>Too bad Gura doesn't stream
>Too bad Fauna doesn't care
>Too bad Mumei doesn't care
You see how cunty this sounds?

>> No.70276693

>>70276389
>talk shit get hit
By what? You hold no power in wrists or words.

>> No.70276696

>>70276519
Except where was
>too bad it's all offset by her love of homos
talking about dicks? Kek, you homosisters are such delusional fucking faggots, it’s not enough for you to be this obnoxious, you also must project everything you do onto everyone else.

>> No.70276707

>>70270065
Fpbp

>> No.70276721

>>70269873
>includes males
no thanks.

>> No.70276730

>>70270065
Objectively, this is true. Personal feelings aside, it is a debuff on her numbers.

>> No.70276758

>>70270065
Showing no discrimination for her fellow performers is what makes her an idol.

>> No.70276773

>UNICORN HATE MALE COLLAB


off screen thier oshi having a bf

>> No.70276813

>>70276730
>Topic is about someone's idol quality
>Brings up numbers

Obsessed.

>> No.70276826

>>70274037
t. has never had pets before

>> No.70276832

3/5, and maybe 4/5 of Advent, depending how you view Nerissa, are that. But you cannot grow with just a corpo full of Baes running around.
Hololive didn't grow because of Watame. The grafters are invaluable and keep the engines running, but it's the naturals that have that unexplainable something that expand the borders. Everyone has a role to play.
And then you have extremely rare cases of a Pekora or a Korone or a FBK that put in the work and have mass appeal. FWMC might eventually be that, or maybe their ugu voice and act might hold them back from reaching mass appeal.

>> No.70276866

>>70276631
Yeah then address that itself instead of trying to say some bullshit about how pointing out what is a flaw of hers to a lot of people is actually "them thinking about dicks"

>> No.70276879

>>70276773
Nice spacing, faggot. Every homopusher is a holoanti.

>> No.70276903

>>70270773
>They won't hurt your feelings
Did you see how much seethe the dogs caused because of the silence during homos being on screen? The beggars are the ones that get their feeling hurt nowadays.

>> No.70276918

>>70276696
>Except where was
>>too bad it's all offset by her love of homos
>talking about dicks?
Men have dicks and you people think about them getting dicked down by men. You tell me. Tardicorn with the dumbest bullshit.
>it’s not enough for you to be this obnoxious, you also must project everything you do onto everyone else
Says the idiot who makes/supports bait threads about homocollabers, containment breaks whenever there's something that "le owns the homos", and then proceed to project hard it into this post.
Not only blind, but deaf too. Lmao.

>> No.70276937

>>70274206
>>70273796
>>70273890
Only Reddit thinks that oshi no ko is realistic, in real life the unicorns did not commit any crimes.

>> No.70276962

>>70276696
This is unrelated but aren't unicorns the one inserting their cuck fantasies onto Bae unprompted? That's pretty gay, you are thinking of another man's dick in a scenario that isn't real

>> No.70276980

>>70269873
Nah man, how about a bae but without all the homo stuff

>> No.70276981

>>70276832
>ugu voice
???????
Have you WATCHED the twitter space you actual faggot?

>> No.70277004

>>70276962
No

>> No.70277005

>>70274280
In their minds girls just being in the same event with males and not even interacting is practically sex.

>> No.70277032

>>70276937
They totally would if they get the chance. You've never heard of JPcorns before?

>> No.70277046

>>70276813
The point is that despite her "quality" she unfortunately has a trait which reduces the returns on her hardwork. Why are you upset about this?

>> No.70277052

>>70276918
>no u
Keep your mouth shut, you are a faggot and a cuck.

>> No.70277072

>>70277005
To be fair, Mafumafu and Rushia weren't even in the same room OR event and they were married.

>> No.70277102

>>70274280
Unicorns operate on Niji logic. All they talk about is numbers and those with the least numbers should get kicked out. Sound familiar?

>> No.70277119

>>70276981
How is this at all contentious? Normal people do not talk like or sound like FWMC.

>> No.70277130

>>70277032
They have the power and the opportunity to do it but they never did it.

>> No.70277183

>>70276131
>The two homos Mori was actually friends with left

It's not that deep. She's always barely interacted with Stars. Vesper and Magni were the outliers.

>> No.70277184

>>70277072
Lmao

>> No.70277187

>>70276903
>seethe the dogs caused
It was interesting to see the drama unfold. The open hate towards fuwamoco made Hololive change their stance for reddit atleast. No holostar events get pinned by cover anymore and they set the auto moderator low enough that anything disliked by the community gets instantly removed, which is almost all of holostars posts.

>> No.70277196

>>70276937
I agree it is generally unrealistic that it would happen, but it is a bit disingenuous to say it has never happened before, Christina Grimmie

>> No.70277200

>>70276918
Right, so when we’re talking about normal vtubers we’re constantly having their clitoris and uterus in mind too, makes sense. Just admit that you’re gay and can’t see men mentioned without thinking about dicks, that’s entirely on you you fucking fag.
What a projection there, I and other unicorns don’t containment break, we want to watch our oshi in peace and be left alone.
You delusional male collab begging faggots want to force this on everyone, it’s not enough until every holomem has collabed with males for you.
That’s why everyone hates you.

>> No.70277209

>>70277052
>No argument
>No denial
>Still think it's a "no u"
>S-shut up! Stop talking!1!1!1!
I accept your concession.

>> No.70277235
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>>70277102

>> No.70277248

>>70274178
>.LIVE
Idol club objectively failed, most of its talents are gone and most of the remainder are smaller than horseman. Shiro is the only talent of note in that entire corp and at this point it is beyond safe to say that they got lucky with her rather than it being any 'skill' or 'insight' of their inept management. Maybe someone else there is secretly good but who fucking knows because even if they are good .LIVE put them in a position to fail by putting them in Idol Club. Which is my point.
>noripro defunct generation raked in money
pippa fucking pipkin does better than their gen at its peak. Even with how bad nijien has mismanaged scarle her current state would be a top member. A corp worse than then Phase and nijiEN blowing up solid talents because of an inane vision that they failed to manage. Yeah, I'm a real retard for questioning the validity of that.

>> No.70277265

>>70277119
>They don’t sound like normal people
>Therefore their voices are ugly
Ogey?

>> No.70277315

>>70277187
The dogs are too powerful

>> No.70277322

>I must savagely defend these homofaggots on /vt/ but YOU are the one obsessed with dick, anon!
>it’s not me, I swear!

>> No.70277323

>>70277130
Incidents of stalking have happened back in 2016 where Mayu Tomita, an actress and singer was killed by a 27 year old fan. Because of that, it's a wonder why there's no more stalking because they have no opportunity to do so if their chats are being monitored by the government
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabbing_of_Mayu_Tomita

>> No.70277326

>>70277209
>No argument
>No denial
I accept your concession

>> No.70277379

>>70277235
Deflect all you want but it's true.

>> No.70277404
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70277404

fuck whatever stupid bullshit you faggots are whining about, they made robert hold back his full power for the venus choreography and that's fucked up

>> No.70277412

>>70277323
More japanese political leaders have been assassinated more recently than idols.

>> No.70277414

>>70277323
just a case and it's not an idol
>Because of that, it's a wonder why there's no more stalking because they have no opportunity to do so if their chats are being monitored by the government
False

>> No.70277433

>>70277200
>I and other unicorns don’t containment break

Holy grass

>> No.70277468

This thread is just the same people who were arguing in the AI unicorn thread the other day
I told you faggots that the mods should just permaban everyone in that thread, would have saved us the trouble of all these bait threads

>> No.70277469

>>70277119
??????

>> No.70277472

>>70277404
homos do not deserve respect

>> No.70277473

>>70277322
You tried to invalidate every single one of Bae's achievements due to homos and got clapped back and now you are seething. It's one thing to say that you won't watch her due to homos and it's another to say that all she does stands for nothing because of her being a unityfag. You got rightfully clapped.

>> No.70277521

>>70277404
holy shit

>> No.70277524

>>70277433
Ok? Is this some sort of twitter thing you homos say? What does that exactly do to help your case?
Well you made clear that you’re a retarded faggot but I still accept your concession.

>> No.70277527

>>70277433
That's because most fans are unicorns, newfag.

>> No.70277532

>>70275885
>Advent debuted
Advent has been pretty openly unicorn friendly. The new Hololive EN director openly wrote that they are planning for more CGDGT activities. And it seems to be working, Hololive EN has been performing pretty well compared to the past year.

>> No.70277565

>>70277468
>AI unicorn thread
???

>> No.70277624

>>70277532
Not just pretty, completely. The only one possible to do that was Shiori, but she hasn’t and leans the hardest into the GF experience

>> No.70277628

>>70277565
This one >>70035480

>> No.70277641

>>70277473
>You tried to invalidate every single one of Bae's achievements due to homos
the other anon didn't do this
>got clapped back and now you are seething.
and this definitely did not happen

>> No.70277646

>>70270065
fpbp

>> No.70277692

>>70277248
>tries to deflect .LIVEs failure on anything but Sio's fat fucking ass
oh please
>Pippa does better
Pippa rakes in more cash than their idol division during their golden period? Are you for real or just shitposting? Sure hope it's the latter

>> No.70277700

>>70277404
Is this real

>> No.70277710

>>70269873
>Bae
>idol
lol nah Bae isn't an idol she's a slut. And I'm not just calling her names I mean that in a literal sense. She's an actual slut who can't stay away from men because her desire to fuck them is so strong that it controls her brain. For fuck's sake, she was wearing a penis hat during her call in stream. She'll never be anything even resembling an idol and she has nobody but herself to blame for being a runt.

>> No.70277716

>>70277473
>You tried
I’m not even who you’ve been frothing at the mouth over. However, all broadened unityfaggotry leads down the same road. While I think her connectivity with the Holos of various branches is admirable, the main thing that she keeps getting ‘credit’ for is her homo exposure. It’s almost as if the same people claiming not to care about said exposure crave it so primally that they use >muh unity to get it.

>> No.70277718

>>70277628
OK,thanks.

>> No.70277767

>>70277473
>Invalidate every single one of Bae's achievements
??? Huh? How would that even work? By having them fire her?
Also no they weren’t, and certainly the guy talking about her homo love ITT wasn’t doing this so who are you talking about?

>> No.70277813

>>70277527
Keep telling yourself that.

>> No.70277883

>>70277716
>>70277767
>Too bad it's all offset
>All offset
Do we need to teach unicorns how to read too now?

>> No.70277887

>>70277532
>Hololive EN has been performing pretty well compared to the past year
The Cover report was hilarious when they showed holostars by the side kek. Does anyone have the image?

>> No.70277903

>>70270065
as opposed to no talent hacks like fauna? greatest achievement in hololive is not collabing with males?
faggots like you who claim to love idol culture hate the very core part of it.

>> No.70277912

>>70269873
>>70270065
I knew that this direct was going to cause problems

>> No.70277952

>>70277710
The more you seethe about her, the stronger idol power becomes

>> No.70277960

>>70277813
It's true, why else do you think homostars have these ridiculously pathetic numbers in comparison? This isn’t nijisanji, most hololive fans are unicorns despite what clipfag comments and twitter might say

>> No.70277980

>>70270065
I hate homo collabs and male vtubers, and even I don't believe this

>> No.70277989

>>70277883
>failing at reading comprehension while likewise casting such upon me

>> No.70278009

>>70277883
Oh so you think the original poster of that ITT got BTFOd or something? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
ok you stupid homoniggers are funny sometimes

>> No.70278010

>>70277813
I didn't tell it to me, I told it to you.
and seeing the evidence I am right.

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>>70277903
>as opposed to no talent hacks like fauna?
Fauna surpasses Bae to a hilarious degree. Pic related.
>greatest achievement in hololive is not collabing with males?
Yes.
>love idol culture
Bae and idol culture don't belong in the same sentence.

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>>70276832
That's what you think, anon.

>> No.70278158

>>70278063
Fauna and idol culture don't belong in the same sentence

>> No.70278159

I am no Brrat, but Bae's singing really reminds me of the doujin music of old, to the point where it feels like the more generic instrumentals are holding her back.

Other girls have better singing in theory, mind, but they're more noticeably chained to the generic idol style, and man, that style is boring...

So yeah, can only hope Hololive follows her example.

>> No.70278215

>>70278158
Sister you’re embarrassing yourself

>> No.70278249

>>70270065
Unfortunately Bae is an idol

>> No.70278260

>>70274437
>>70274516
No, it's because you keep hating the rest of the talents.

>> No.70278262

>>70278063
koyori collab with male

>> No.70278284

>>70277903
>>70278063
as someone who likes both fauna and bae and thinks they both have talents valuable to hololive both of you need to neck yourselves
absolutely insufferable tribalshitters need to be purged

>> No.70278291

>>70277200
>Right, so when we’re talking about normal vtubers we’re constantly having their clitoris and uterus in mind too, makes sense.
There's already threads for those.
>Just admit that you’re stupid and can’t see men mentioned without thinking about dicks going in and out of your oshi, that’s entirely on you you fucking fag.
FTFY
>What a projection there, I and other unicorns don’t containment break, we want to watch our oshi in peace and be left alone.
Lol lmao
https://twitter.com/achan_UGA/status/1725675211193041290?t=yRMXYGBtTKMJhOoVq-wZPA&s=19
https://www.youtube.com/live/B_kZ1WSpJBg?si=qKaPtj9UU5k9zo8-
>You delusional male collab begging faggots want to force this on everyone, it’s not enough until every holomem has collabed with males for you.
Literally no one else has done this outside of /here/ look who's projecting now.
>That’s why everyone hates you.
You must be talking about the unicorns because this is the only place they can talk without getting dogpiled. Lmao

>> No.70278320

there will never be peace again thanks to the sisters.

>> No.70278325

>>70278063
God ID is so pathetic
>yeah don’t worry about it yagoo-sama we definitely need to expand into the third world country with no money it’s a brilliant idea trust me

>> No.70278370

>>70278249
No

>> No.70278376

>>70278010
Try posting your unicorn agenda on any public platform. You'll be shot down in an instant and then come right back here which proves my point.

>> No.70278377

>>70270065
If you want pure CGDCT, watch CGDCT anime. At least those characters will never fuck a male in their lives.
Projecting CGDCT in vtubers literally breeds GFE which you niggers hate the most, so it doesn't compute.

>> No.70278390

>>70278063
You don't believe that yourself lmao

>> No.70278402

>>70278284
Nah, you neck yourself

>> No.70278413

>>70278159
Her singing SUCKS, her first cover halloween or whatever? fucking shit. The one song she destroyed the most is belle's A Million Miles Away, HOLY FUCK she ruined that song.

>> No.70278422

>>70277960
People want to see the girls =/= People shitting on the boys.
You are a retard for assuming this.

>> No.70278426

please stop responding to scott, he's a schizo who will never shut up or change his mind no matter how many times you respond to him

>> No.70278433

>>70278370
Yes

>> No.70278440

>>70278390
>You don't believe that
Cover's own chart quite literally proves it

>> No.70278465

>>70278063
bae
>LIVEs
>choreographs her dances
>can sing okay
>EP
>album
>speaks japanese
>not sociallay awkward towards her senpai regardless of gender
>moved to japan so she can actually do more 3D
>more subs than fauna
>more streams than fauna
>other shit that im forgetting
fauna
>no males
>slight supa advantage

>> No.70278487

>>70278377
Nope, anime sucks. Vtubing is a much better form of CGDCT so I'll watch it instead.

>> No.70278500

>>70271789
>above
Kill your fucking self

>> No.70278516

>>70278377
You say this but I could just not watch homo collabers.

>> No.70278534

>>70278376
>I and other unicorns don’t containment break
you laughed when the other anon said this
but now you say
>Try posting your unicorn agenda on any public platform.
what is the truth sister?

>> No.70278557

>>70278320
Fuck off newfag. There was never any peace to begin with. If it's not Niji vs Holo then it's Homo vs Holo if it's not that then it's Holo vs. Holo. Indie vs Holo. Vshitshow vs Holo.

>> No.70278571

>>70278516
That's true, and you can stay away from threads about homo collabers too

>> No.70278581

>>70278433
Nah

>> No.70278589

>>70269873
She's not an idol. Can't even hold her own ideals and sold out for a dakimakura for easy cash.

>> No.70278603

>>70278440
I was talking about your last quote. Bae is very much a trad JP style idol with the occasional childish toilet humour and collaborations with men included.

>> No.70278604

>>70278465
>Bae
>is a cock-obsessed slut
>Fauna
>is not a cock-obsessed slut, or if she is, she keeps it private
Fauna wins and is closer to being an idol than Bae will ever be. That's a low bar though.

>> No.70278605

>>70278413
She covered Happy Halloween in her PL and I find it hilarious how she never improved after all these years

>> No.70278649

>>70278534
>>I and other unicorns don’t containment break
>>70278291
>>Try posting your unicorn agenda on any public platform.
>>what is the truth sister?
So you admit you're not the majority? You broke containment before. What's another one? After all you are the """majority""" so why not prove it? Oh that's right. You hide behind numbers lol

>> No.70278656

>>70278291
What's the point of quoting one’s entire post when it ends up with "lol lmao"
Who’s projecting now??? Twitter does this all the fucking time.
Just look at the comments of dramanigger youtubers talking about fuwamoco staying silent during the homo show, they tried to turn this around and not make, you know, the people harassing fuwamoco over it the ones responsible, but somehow put this back onto unicorns. There were a ton of comments about how "unprofessional" the behavior of them was, how they’re "scared of their fans", and how "the branches need to merge together". You know, the usual homoshit talking points that you probably have used a lot of times too.
You realize you just proved my point right? Unicorns don’t go as much out to talk about these things because as I said, they just want to watch their oshi in peace. The ones mostly even discussing this topic are homobeggars like you in the first place. This can be proven by simply looking at superchat earners and watch hours.

Unironically kill yourself homo faggot, or fuck off to nijisanji, or what's left of it kek

>> No.70278667

>>70278465
Don't you dare hate fauna, sister.
She does something much more valuable than Bae and that is having a good fan base.

>> No.70278684

>>70278465
i already knew saplings openly anti'd others girls but why do brats do the same thing? by far the two worst fanbases in promise.

>> No.70278686

>>70278604
LOL
LMAO
we all know the deets, you can't do it like this.

>> No.70278703

>>70278604
Bae is a true idol. Fauna is a larper

>> No.70278707

>>70278377
>breeds GFE which you niggers hate the most
????

>> No.70278710

>>70278603
Is it common for traditional style JP idols to stream video games about dicks, wear dicks on their heads, and talk about dicks all the time?

>> No.70278731

>>70276100
Me not believing her to be oblivious is exactly why I question her insistence. If there was even some form of notable increase in distance or at least more apparent segregation, I could at least cope with that. But right now Bae is equal to Kobo of all people in terms of how much of a bare minimum she does to account for it(remember that whiplash moment in Kobos concert?)
The point is that this constant mixing is simply going to continue to be a notable exception for homobeggars and shitposters to cling to. You can pretend that it's not the case, but the credibility for that argument increases with every instance of unicorn pandering holos avoiding or behaving in notably strange ways when participating in Bae's mixed-but-segregated content. I already gave examples above of exactly this happening with her concert and totsu.
There are simply a significant number of holos who have made it quite clear that they are not interested in being associated with homos. Associating with Bae alone is fine, but when it comes to mass scale interactions, Bae's current method of segregation still ends up muddying the waters to some extent. There are degrees of separation, and while Bae clearly is considerate of providing SOME degree of it, you could say the same of HLZNTL. And we all saw how even that degree of separation didn't get taken well. A similar incident on a smaller scale happened with Nene, who ended up crying on stream because of her noticing that she stopped seeing long-time supportive fans in her chat afterwards.
I would personally hope that Bae can at least come to a clearer understanding of the importance of minimizing potential malcontent(inb4 I get 'own the incel' tier responses to me saying this) in her content. If she is truly as self-sacrificing as brats claim she is, even if planning her content with an even greater degree of separation increases the complexity of her projects and personal workload, I feel like it would be something a truly self-sacrificing person would pursue.
After all, when Suisei booted the male guest from the stream for Kanatas sake, she did just that; booted him. Outright. She didn't seperate the stream into two panels, one with Kanata, and one with the guy. She respected Kanatas desire to not be associated with males in ANY way. And thus, the stream Kanata was in, did not feature that male at all. That to me was the level of segregation which showed me that Suisei truly respected Kanatas personal preferences.
Mind you, these same criticisms I have apply to Kobo, but I personally have a higher opinion of Bae than I do of Kobo(much higher lmao), which is coincidentally exactly WHY I wish I could see her play this balancing act of hers in a better way.

>> No.70278749

>>70278422
AND WHY DO PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE GIRLS????!!!!
Fucking use your brain homofag

>> No.70278752

>>70278649
No, those guys you see outside never used this place. You're so stupid, sister.

>> No.70278759

>>70278684
To be fair, this is just Faunaschizo going against dirtty number monkey Saplings

>> No.70278797

>>70278710
Correct. As long as it's done in a childish and juvenile manner which Bae does.

>> No.70278800

>>70278667
>sisterposter
i accept your concession
also >>>70278684
>i already knew saplings openly anti'd others girls
>"good fanbase"
KEKAROO

>> No.70278801

>>70278703
No, it's totally the other way around.

>> No.70278808

>>70278703
>Bae is a true idol.
Bae is a false idol, actually. I mean in the Japanese sense, not the biblical sense. But maybe also in the biblical sense.

>> No.70278807

>>70278377
>GFE which you niggers hate the most
Are you lost? Or did you buy into the crossboarding catalognigger psyop?

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the holo homo collab question has been answered in 2022
END THE LOOP

>> No.70278840

Are brats the worse fanbase. They are always starting shit.

>> No.70278884

>>70278465
Look, I like Bae: she's the best actual Idol in Council, for sure.

But Fauna? Her streams are what keep Council relavent week by week. Yes, Bae tries, and she tries hard, but I just can't put her streams on and have a reliably good time the way Fauna does.

>> No.70278890

>>70278800
The Jew is immunized against all dangers: One may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: "I’ve been found out".

>> No.70278902

>>70278837
Hey look, it’s that dead fag

>> No.70278940

>>70278656
>What's the point of quoting one’s entire post when it ends up with "lol lmao"
I give links for proof idiot.
>Just look at the comments of dramanigger youtubers talking about fuwamoco staying silent during the homo show, they tried to turn this around and not make, you know, the people harassing fuwamoco over it the ones responsible, but somehow put this back onto unicorns.
I don't know any dramatuber that reported on this. Did you make this up as well?
>There were a ton of comments about how "unprofessional" the behavior of them was, how they’re "scared of their fans", and how "the branches need to merge together". You know, the usual homoshit talking points that you probably have used a lot of times too.
Similar to Kanata but unlike unicorns. They leave it and move on after a day. You people just beat a dead horse.
>You realize you just proved my point right? Unicorns don’t go as much out to talk about these things because as I said, they just want to watch their oshi in peace.
I proved Unicorns containment broke at any possible moment if it means homos are getting shitted on. You've chosen to evade it and then start making excuses about the behavior in the comments kek
>The ones mostly even discussing this topic are homobeggars like you in the first place. This can be proven by simply looking at superchat earners and watch hours.
Refer to the first quote.
>Unironically kill yourself homo faggot, or fuck off to nijisanji, or what's left of it kek
Using Niji Logic. Expected of Tardicorn modus operandi. No matter what mental gymnastics jog your brain. Holostars is not Nijisanji. Thank you for conceding. You may ramble like the ignoramus you are.

>> No.70278964

Male vtubers were a mistake. We already have enough drama without them

>> No.70278969

>>70278604
Bae has set herself to never get a boyfriend or get married as long as she's within Hololive. She passes the idol check with flying colors.

>> No.70278978

>>70278752
Thanks for proving my point lol

>> No.70279016

>>70278800
>>70278890
Also you can't say that Fauna's fanbase is bad for hating other talents, but saying that Bae's fanbase is good for hating other talents

>> No.70279040

>>70278884
We all know Fauna is a better streamer than Bae. That isn't exactly an unpopular opinion

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>>70278969
>Bae has set herself to never get a boyfriend or get married as long as she's within Hololive
That's pretty cool anon. Hey, are you in the market for a bridge? Because I've got a really good one for sale.

>> No.70279072

>>70278969
No don't tell them that!!! They're already suffering from cancelled streams because "something" "came" "up" that "needs to be taken care of".

>> No.70279085

>>70278749
People want to see the girls because they're cute. Shitting actively on the boys unprovoked is a completely different sentence because most of them just tolerate or don't watch it instead of throwing a hissy fit like you idiots who are actively shitting on homos.
There's more lines than black and white but I guess Unicorns are colorblind.

>> No.70279083

>>70278940
You didn’t prove shit you fucking faggot. Unicorns don’t "containment break at any possible moment", homosisters are just the loud minority everywhere constantly wanting to push their homos onto everyone. Just like how twitter leftists always behave. And them being the minority can be proven by just looking at the male numbers lmao

>> No.70279102

>>70278978
How the fuck does this prove your point?

>> No.70279131

>>70278969
Gullible ESL nigger

>> No.70279134

I wonder how many Unicorns here would take the chance to collab with their female Oshi if they ever actually became a chuuba

>> No.70279136

>>70279063
Unfortunately for you... Bae spends a good chunk of her life on stream and will often stream through her periods

>> No.70279145

>>70279102
The point is. Unicorns are not the majority.

>> No.70279189

>>70279134
They'll turn on each other as soon as they get it. There's no such thing as camaraderie for them

>> No.70279213

>>70279085
Yeah and being a unicorn doesn’t mean shitting on them unprovoked genius. Unicorns don’t care as long as you don’t invade their space.
And whatever happens /here/ doesn’t fucking matter, it’s not on their own youtube or twitter account, that’s not going towards them and insulting them or telling them what to do like homoshits do

>> No.70279226

>>70279085
Da boys need to be shit on all the time, 24/7, unprovoked because it puts them in their places and discourages intergender collabs by making them toxic to work with. Learn how gatekeeping works.

>> No.70279266

That this birthday transforms the bae fanbase into hateful of other talents is a predictable but sad result.

>> No.70279267

>>70279145
But it doesn’t prove that

>> No.70279277

Why don't you guys just skip the occasional male collab your oshi does and move on if you hate it that much? Nobody is forcing you to watch it, just like how you don't have to watch a stream of a game you don't like. Genuine question here.

>> No.70279279

>>70279063
>Streams pretty much every day for hours
>4 streams on valentine's
>When she says dance practice or recording, she means it since the results come out shortly
>Streams during her menstruation cycle
>Shares every part of her life on stream including what clothing she wears
>Never ever mutes her mic when stepping away from her PC
You keep the bridge to yourself

>> No.70279286

>>70279213
No Starsfan has ever told anyone what to do and unicorns painting themselves as "oh we didn't do it" even though it's clear as day that they do is hilarious.
Explain all you want but nobody likes you idiots outside of /here/

>> No.70279302

>>70279134
You cannot simultaneously claim nothing more comes from collabs and also say this, anon.

>> No.70279313

>>70279134
That’s assuming I would want to become a vtuber in the first place which I have no idea why you would think that

>> No.70279342

>>70279145
And how did you prove this? Where is the evidence?

>> No.70279344

>>70279134
>I wonder how many Unicorns here would take the chance to collab with their female Osh
None of them. I'd have sex with my oshi in private but never would I fucking ever collab with her.

>>70279136
Nigga I'm not keeping track of Bae's periods.

>> No.70279346

>>70279226
Maybe you should be hunted and killed like animals. The girls are grown women and they can make decisions on their own. They don't need you. Kanata did it just fine.

>> No.70279348

>>70270065
Fpbp

>> No.70279356

>>70279266
I only see Saplings shitting on Bae by engaging with Faunaschizo

>> No.70279387

>>70279226
Based

>> No.70279388

>>70279277
I don't support "impure" women

>> No.70279392

>>70279267
It does. Everybody shits on unicorns and somebody /here/ says unicorns are the majority when that's not the case.

>> No.70279398

>>70279286
Yeah because homosisters and virtue signaling faggots control every other platform, but they are obviously not the majority if you look at how shitty the homo numbers are or who the most SCd and watched livers are.
Imagine actually taking twitter as a representation of society lmao

>> No.70279406

>>70279279
Based

>> No.70279424

>>70279346
Heard that one before, and then my oshi was scrutinized twice for not collabing with faggots while being open about her stance of not doing so.

>> No.70279441

>>70279392
You few fags on twitter can do that all you want, it doesn’t translate into actual success

>> No.70279450

>>70278320
There was never a true peace, only the imitation of it during the various golden ages due to a confluence of factors combining into a vtubing era where everyone felt safe
A series of tumultuous events combined with the influx of dramaniggers have ended up making a multitude of groups feel insecure and unsafe
The soul of vtubing is shaken and the only thing that could bring it back is an event which rekindles the faith of the community in every viewer having a place here regardless of their preferences, without a constant seed of doubt in the back of their minds that the happiness they have now is one bad day away from changing into something else
Faith is dead and only a truly concerted effort by a massive portion of the fanbase as well as the vtubers themselves focused on reviving it could ever bring back any sense of peace
But when everybody is paranoid, alliances of common interest, no matter how truly well-intentioned they might be, are basically a pipe dream
But then again, miracles have happened before
They're not exactly something you can plan on though, only hope for
Deep down, I want to see that faith-based peace we've had periods of in the past again. I am sad about the universal erosion of trust.

>> No.70279453

>>70279342
It's everywhere. Check Xitter. Check YouTube. Check Reddit. Hell Dramatubers are demonizing them. Nobody has stepped up to defend them except people from /here/ which to my estimate is around 200-300 something people.

>> No.70279493

>>70279398
Basado,I'm tired of tourists telling me that this place doesn't matter. If you don't like it, go back to your hole.

>> No.70279513

>>70279453
>Check Reddit
Funny you are saying that when Reddit is a lot more friendly towards unicorns than homobeggars nowadays

>> No.70279527

>>70279277
>Why don’t you guys just go to another room when your wife gets fucked by your neighbor again if you hate it that much? Nobody is forcing you to watch it. Genuine question here

>> No.70279541

>>70279277
I don't oshi streams, I oshi a person.

>> No.70279542

>>70279424
Who is your oshi and where is the proof? No one is harassing them to collab with males. They give an opinion and they move on. Unicorns cannot emulate that.

>> No.70279545

I don't care about Unicorns. They are allowed to do whatever as long as they don't shit on my idol rat. That is all

>> No.70279549

Idols:
>Gura
>Fauna
>Ina
>Irys
Not idols:
>Ame
>Mori
>Kronii
>Bae
On probation:
>Mumei
Simple as.

>> No.70279575

>>70279346
Complain all you want. Unicorns will continue to shit on the boys and gatekeep for the good of vtubing.
>The girls are grown women and they can make decisions on their own
Many grown women are extremely bad at making decisions of their own. Men too for that matter. But especially women.

>> No.70279596

>>70279513
Yeah because most Unicorns originally came from here to raid any homo post.

>> No.70279619

>>70279596
Proof?

>> No.70279642

>>70279453
First you accuse me of containment break and then you order me to do it.
This place is the only one that matters, tourist.
>here/ which to my estimate is around 200-300 something people
Cope

>> No.70279655

>>70279398
>>70278422

>> No.70279684

>>70279453
>Check Xitter. Check YouTube. Check Reddit.
I can give you examples on all of these places where anti-unicorn sentiment is drowned out and quite heavily at that.
>dramatubers
Definitely the go to source for meaningful opinions lol

>> No.70279688

>>70279542
Literally the opposite. Kiara had tons of people coming into her stream asking why she doesn’t collab with tempus when they launched. Bae didn’t have any unicorns in her stream saying she shouldn’t because they just moved on

>> No.70279713

>>70279642
>This place is the only one that matters
That's a funny joke anon.

>> No.70279719

>>70279655
They should ban you for the quality of your comments.

>> No.70279729

Bae is boring don’t care about males but I don’t watch them unless they play a game I like. Anyway the JDON incident was the most interesting thing she has done in recent memory.

>> No.70279750

>>70279655
Ok so they only want to watch girls… and this somehow is a huge win against unicorns who only want to watch girls too…
Amazing, you really got the unicorns with that one

>> No.70279762

>>70279575
>Many grown women are extremely bad at making decisions of their own. Men too for that matter. But especially women.
They must learn to live with the consequences. If you can make a choice. They can too.

>> No.70279775

>>70279596
I can't believe the small minority of a dozen unicorns was able to single-handedly wipe homo content off the face of the main sub in 99% of cases
They really are too powerful

>> No.70279798

>>70279527
But playing Minecraft or apex together isn't having sex.

>> No.70279808

>>70279279
NTA but
>Streams during her menstruation cycle
What

>> No.70279811

>>70279750
Blind and stupid to see more than black and white. Thanks for conceding tardicorn.

>> No.70279817
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70279817

>"I used Japan's idol culture as the foundation for Hololive's initial aesthetic precisely because it was so distinct and unique. I had observed the complexities and challenges faced by global entertainment entities trying to integrate or emulate diverse cultural norms - the misunderstandings, the controversies. Japan's idol culture is a highly stylized, meticulously crafted image that effectively captivates and engages fans, dedicating them to something larger than themselves - to the idea of the idol and what they represent. In this culture, I found a template for a community equal to the challenges of the digital, post-internet world - a community that could and would thrive. A community that would prevent the fanbase from fracturing and turning on itself in this new era, by establishing a new Unity. Unity that would mean a global culture that often isolates the problematic aspects of the pure Japanese idol culture, particularly with the interactions with the opposite sex to maintain an idealized image. Long-term stability and fan satisfaction at all costs. The Japanese idol culture has no value beyond their utility to the conservative Japanese culture, whether as an entertainer or a symbol. I'll guide Hololive's transition because it's inevitable that it adapt. It’s Hegelian dialectics, not a rejection of our roots. How do I explain Hegelian Dialectics in simpler terms? It's a philosophical theory, the kind you might come to understand if you delved into cultural studies. The fundamental premise is to envision societal evolution as a series of 'dialectical' conflicts. Each dialectic begins with a proposition, a thesis... which inherently contains, or creates, its opposite - an antithesis. Thesis and antithesis. The conflict is inevitable. But the resolution of the conflict yields something new - a synthesis - eliminating the flaws in each, leaving behind common elements and ideas. The traditional idol culture has all the problems of an insular entertainment form - extreme expectations, isolation, intense fan scrutiny. Just as with conservative idol traditions, it is natural that a global entertainment brand should emerge and transform Hololive into a more inclusive, globally aware entity. Thesis and antithesis. The traditional expectations will be challenged, but the new synthesis will change Hololive as well... from a primarily Japan-centric idol culture to a more globally inclusive entertainment force that respects its roots while embracing a wider audience."

>> No.70279827

>>70279513
>reddit thread gets posted in /#/, the thread that stalks reddit and is obsessed with homos
>Raid ensues
Woah what a mystery!

>> No.70279840

>>70279713
The only joke is that I destroyed all your arguments and you can't accept the truth.
I'll go back to where you came from if you hate this place, insect

>> No.70279852

>>70270065
Fpbp, I'm sure its nice that she does whatever she does but I've never watched anything bae has done because of that and never will

>> No.70279861

>>70279775
They're still there though.

>> No.70279866

>>70279798
>But just kissing your wife kissing him and fondling him isn’t sex. Come on, why are you being such an asshole and let her have some fun

>> No.70279873

>>70279808
https://streamable.com/i13gjn

>> No.70279900

>>70279827
I hate /#/, but you’ve got undeniable proof of said raid, right?

>> No.70279946

>>70279900
Yeah it's probably the fact that the reddit thread need to be posted in /#/ before the opinion sway happens

>> No.70279948

>>70279866
Anon I'm afraid you may just be projecting your fantasies here. If you treated male collabs as what they are in reality (playing a game with connected vc) you'd stop seeing it as some cuck fantasy deal breaker.

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70279953

>>70279840
>The only joke is that I destroyed all your arguments
The "arguments"
>>70279642
>>70279342
>>70279102
>>70278752
No consistency. No source. No proof. Most of them questions whereas I answered everything with links and all.
No need to be assblasted anon. Losing a debate helps you grow.

>> No.70279966

>>70279729
I like Bae, but I don't see her when she collaborates with men. Apparently that makes me a unicorn and I accepted that destiny.

>> No.70280023

>>70279866
Do unikeks really? like I understand the appeal of CGDCT but are these two situations even remotely comparable?

>> No.70280028

>>70279966
It only makes you a unicorn if you seethe about it online

>> No.70280049

>>70279762
>They must learn to live with the consequences
In this case it's better to protect them from themselves.

>> No.70280058

>>70270065
FPBP

>> No.70280072

>>70279873
Hot.

>> No.70280108

> 300+ replies but are made by a third of unique posters

By the name of Matsuri, this fight between unicorns and anti-unicorns is so comically retarded when the OG thread only focus on appreciating Bae and not mention males even once. But again, who am I to judge when this is the nature of /vt/

>> No.70280163

>>70279946
Unfortunately, that’s merely circumstantial.

>> No.70280195

>>70280023
Yes, I don’t want my oshi directing affection to a potential partner that isn’t me (through the stream)
>but yurishit-
Doesn’t count, a woman cannot impregnate another woman

>> No.70280209

>>70280049
I disagree but whatever. Have it your way.

>> No.70280240

>>70280108
>when the OG thread only focus on appreciating Bae
He’s never seen an intentionally inflammatory post in his life

>> No.70280277

>>70279953
>The sister uses Gura, when she is the unicorn queen
you are very weak sister
continuing with your argument
I'm right: unicorns do not contain containment breaks, that is the opinion of the majority of normalfags
You failed to prove that it is false and until you do, I am right.

>> No.70280278

>>70280195
You know Sex doesn't always equal to Love right? A lot of political marriages back then are like that. She'll never love you if she loves a woman heart and soul

>> No.70280321

I always get the feeling that 99% of these threads turning into schizo shitflinging is caused by mindbroken nijiniggers butthurt that their branch is falling apart and is the laughingstock of vtubers, so they take any opportunity to futilely attempt to make the most mundane things occurring in hololive into big drama in order to try and gain some ground
And that thought makes me smile because I can picture them crying and flailing and screaming while their branch sinks into the dirt

>> No.70280348

>>70280028
Your disgusting presence already does it, and I accepted your war with joy.

>> No.70280357

>>70280278
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Homokeks actually confirmed cūcks.
>sex doesn’t equal love you know that right? Yourr wife is just riding that cock for pleasure not because she actually loves that guy come on

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70280364

>>70280277
>Ignoring every answer to the argument
>Claims himself to be correct with no basis
Thanks for conceding. I know it must have been very hard. It's no wonder people don't take you retards seriously

>> No.70280407

>>70280278
okay bitch

>> No.70280419

>>70280357
I mean you got cucked by a woman. I never see them as GFE. But hey good to know you post your cuck fantasies. Unicorns really are brain rotten.

>> No.70280462

>>70280321
That's not a theory, where do you think the sisters come from?

>> No.70280474

>>70280348
So you let your persecution complex bait you into a “war” that nobody asked for
Good work

>> No.70280490

>>70280195
Where is the affection in question? This isn't Nijisanji

>> No.70280495

>>70280419
You cannot physically get cucked by a woman. It’s like saying a Tiger can be scared off by a house cat.

>> No.70280535

>>70280490
Playing together? Why would I ever under any circumstances want to watch her with another man? That’s just straight up cuc.king

>> No.70280542

>>70279873
Creep

>> No.70280548

How often does Bae collab with males? Why do retards /here/ make it seem like its every week?

>> No.70280569

>>70280548
Once in a blue moon but people here don't watch streams.

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70280594

>>70280548
>>70280321

>> No.70280629

>>70280364
>She still uses idol friends of the unicorns
You literally gave no proof of anything, sister.
Also I don't care what your redditors think, the numbers don't lie.

>> No.70280636

>>70280535
That's fine if you don't want to watch that but confusing that with affection is you projecting

>> No.70280666

>>70280474
>nobody asked for
You literally invaded this site and I happily defend it.

>> No.70280689

>>70280636
They're collaborating in a friendly manner one on one.
If it’s a group it would be a little more excusable but personal collabs are just cuking
And fuwamoco even went so far as to go quiet during a group collab so yeah, they know how it works

>> No.70280713

>>70280666
That’s your persecution complex speaking again

>> No.70280725

>>70280689
I'm afraid you don't know what affection is, let's just leave it at that

>> No.70280758

>>70280666
I'm pretty sure Unicorns are the ones who invaded this hobby rather than the other way around

>> No.70280780

>>70280636
nta but you know that the sisters never agreed that not watching videos with homos in them was acceptable. According to them you have to see it, otherwise you are a subhuman.

>> No.70280811

>>70280725
Affection: "a gentle feeling of fondness or liking"
A collab is showing affection cuk

>> No.70280821

>>70280713
Cope
>>70280758
Newfag

>> No.70280853

>>70280780
They are incorrect, you have agency in the choice of content you want to consume
>>70280811
Once again, I don't know what kind of upbringing you had but you don't know what affection is (Romantic in this case)

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70280870

pomu was right, this does look like a war.

>> No.70280899

>>70280821
The unfortunate thing about you having a persecution complex is that you will automatically take the reality of somebody telling you that you have a persecution complex as them persecuting you
Because you have a persecution complex

>> No.70280943

>>70280853
The problem is that it is still uncomfortable to see a collaboration between homo and women.

>> No.70280980

>>70280899
>persecution complex
Just repeating that a million times doesn't make it true.

>> No.70281014

>>70280980
And thus the cycle never breaks
Maybe one day you can break out of it, anon
I believe in you

>> No.70281046

>>70279279
baesed. you just know she's got nothing to hide. can't say the same for the rest.

>> No.70281187

>>70281014
You are too weak to understand me, I know I am being persecuted.
and it makes me happy, it gives me the opportunity to destroy parasites like you.

>> No.70281223

>>70279279
>>70281046
Cope

>> No.70281232

>>70281187
>I know I am being persecuted
That’s what those who have persecution complexes think, anon
The first step to healing is admitting you have a problem

>> No.70281257

>>70280853
I don’t want her to show ANY affection to a male that isn’t her blood family

>> No.70281298

>>70280548
More than once (business-related mandatory activities excluded) is already too much

>> No.70281326

>>70269873
It's great that there are people like bae that's passionate about traditional idol work like singing, dancing, and expressing dreams. But most people watch vtuber to be streamers, just egirls playing games with an anime avatar, so it's questionable if we need more people like bae or if a few is plenty enough.

>> No.70281399

>>70281326
then hololive is not for those "people"

>> No.70281581

>>70281232
you are literally persecuting me.

>> No.70281617

>>70281326
>>70281399
morons, bae is not the only one who does idol activities.

>> No.70281665

>>70281581
Anon, I haven’t persecuted you once

>> No.70281844

>>70280321
Does the NDF even have enough brain cells to realize they could just shit threads on command like that?

>> No.70281859

>>70281665
You literally don't stop, stop chasing me.

>> No.70281913

>>70281844
They have done it since the foundation of their N.En

>> No.70281930

>>70281859
I’m only consistently responding because I still have hope that you can get better

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