Sayu speaks about the Dokibird Drama

[Anonymous No.]

I don't want to take another out of context so I clipped the whole thing.

https://streamable.com/qr3jsx

In this clip, Sayu explains that she understands what Dokibird and her fans are going through, yet Sayu adds that she went through hell and nobody cared as she almost took her life and was alone through the entire ordeal. Sayu also explains that she's still being bullied to this day, while Dokibird can have support and benefits behind her bullying.

She also explains that she's angrier towards the Indie vtubers who didn't support her, yet are supporting Dokibird for their own benefits, which is why she never wants to collab with those people ever again.

[Anonymous No.]

we really need a niji containment board for you fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
She's right though, Sayu went through a lot of shit and nobody gave a shit until it happened to Dokibird

[Anonymous No.]

damn that's crazy

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>>70254702
Don't care. Not interested. Why the fuck these days always newcoomer dramacucks making threads trying to cause a drama that has been long fucking gone?

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>>70254856
kindred hands typed this

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>>70254702
I can understand those feelings

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>>70254702
Maybe Anycolor got it right with firing her. She sounds insane

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>>70255105
How does she sound insane though?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
MEMEMEMEMEME

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>>70255133
Because she makes a false equivalency that pretends she handled it the same way Doki did.

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>>70254702
>A literally who vs a pillar of NIJI EN
Gee, I wonder why

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>>70254702
I understand her feeling, it's really annoying and frustating to see some people and indie vtubers shiting on Niji and "supporting" Doki for clout and followers while Sayu is still considered a persona non-grata inside the vtuber community when she did nothing wrong.

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>>70255498
She's clout chasing right now. This shit has nothing to do with her. Absolutely nothing. Yet she keeps trying to make it about her.

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>>70255248
The only diference is the amount of time Selen was in the corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

what's with c*lifornian women and weird vocal fry
drives me insane

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>>70254702
There is an absurd big difference between the 2 of then.
One is Niji was on a far better position at that time. Sayu serious was responsable for a LOT of Niji dirty being in the open.
Two- Selen was way more popular and established
So when push came to shove, A LOT of people came out in her defense.

Its not Sayu fault how much she got fucked over,and is not even fair that it did.
But a lot of the difference is who both of then were at the moment and how bad Niji was at the time.
People need to remember that Dragoons WANTED selen to graduate for quite some time, BEFORE EVEN the MV.

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>>70255658
Doki already shut up and Sayu is still talking.

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>>70255614
People wouldn't stop talking about it in her chat

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>>70255614
She's not clout chasing, she just reply some faggot who asked that shit, jackass.

She made through the whole Doki situation without talking a single shit about that.

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>>70255727
Bullshit. The collabs and tweets were from chat too?

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>>70255614
Sayu has been dox, harassed, bullied and it's STILL going on, this isn't "clout chasing".

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>>70255718
Stop spreading lies, faggot.

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>>70254702
I mean, yeah, I'd probably feel the same way in her position. It's a totally unfair situation.

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don't care

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>>70255829
Can you proof that she mentioned Doki or Nijisanji in her tweets?
She only was venting that she still being attacked and harassed after one fucking year WHILE DOING NOTHING.

[Anonymous No.]

Wow Sayu revealing herself to be a attention snake that she's always been. Who knew a DN cocksleeve would be a bad person.

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>>70255997
Nigga you retarded

[Anonymous No.]

Sayu. I'm waiting for your expose on Kyo. Do not disappoint me

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>>70256161
cringe post

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>>70254702
This is why people don't care about Sayu. The drama is dead and shes still trying to make it about her

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>>70255782
>>70254702

She was a nobody vtuber. We didn't get to build a connection like we did with Selen. Nowhere near it. This bitch is just petty and salty.

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>>70254702
Not a good look tbqh. She comes off as entitled because the internet didn't leap to her defense when she didn't do anything to earn it besides releasing her "side of the story", which at the time wasn't any better than niji's side of the story. Meanwhile Doki kept receipts of everything which made niji shit itself so hard that it self reported out of panic, twice even.

Literally a #believeallwomen moment that makes her look bad.

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>>70254702
A lot of harsh truths in there. Unfortunately it mirrors all levels of life. Some people want to use you. Some want to abuse you. I can't imagine the ugliness she's seen in the past year. And now having to relive it for everyone.

Kudos to her for carrying on. She's a strong woman. But I do hope she has a therapist she's talking to.

[Anonymous No.]

Zaion had a really nice design. I wish her mama would make another like her.

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>>70256402
She has all the reason to be petty and salty because the same people who was harassing her are licking Doki's asshole right now.

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>>70256403
This. When will she understand the circumstances surrounding Zaion's and Selen's terminations are completely different?

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>>70255614
Are you brain dead? She's very far from clout chasing. She's dealing with her trama being picked over for clout by others and having to process it all while streaming to an audience that brings it up.

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>>70254702
She is not wrong, but her situation is also very different in that people didn't have enough time to form a proper (parasocial)relationship with viewers as Zaion due to how fast it all happened.

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>>70256161
based post

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>>70254936
>People care more about the chuuba that was 2 and a half years old rather than the one that lasted 3 months
Yeah no shit no one cared about Zaion

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>>70256317
It is about her you faggot. More than it is about you or anyone else. She went through this exact thing a year ago but no one gave a damn. She has the right to feel a way about that. More than you do

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>>70256546
>Zaion had a really nice design. I wish her mama would make another like her.
Mesugakis is an untapped market, at least for the normalfags.

[Anonymous No.]

Selen was one of the "founding fathers" of NijiEN (Gen 1 and Gen 2). Also there have been people calling Nijisanji a black company for a long time and there were people (especially here) that supported Zaion when she was terminated (even if it was just because they wanted Niji to go down). I guess the people outside of here didn't support her though which was a shame.

[Anonymous No.]

who's NDA expiring next?

[Anonymous No.]

This is just a bait thread, isn't it...
She said that she was angrier at the indie tubers who didn't support her because it was inconvenient, but want to now or are supporting doki because everyone else is.
People keep bringing up Doki stuff on her channel but she doesn't wanna be tied down to that anymore. She said people should just support their oshiis rather than go out asking them if they're gonna go after niji or collab or whatever, because she doesn't wanna just be the "broken former niji employee" and absolutely does not want the same for doki. Let things go naturally to wherever it goes

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>>70254702
the fuck is this menhera talking about?
she got all the support she could ever want from places like here, what else does she want?

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>>70256812
>She went through this exact thing a year ago but no one gave a damn

The fuck? Why do you think she's entitled to the support Selen's given when she was a nobody 2view who didn't garner any goodwill from her aduience? It's the same reason some fuck nugget in the middle of nowhere could have 10 different ypes of cancer and no one will give a shit while one celebrity stubs their toe and the whole world will be watching.

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>>70256866
as other said, it's hard to form an opinion in Zaion's case, she was murdered, pissed on her and buried very quick.
People that already suspected kurosanji had a better grasp now since what they did to her was fucking disgusting, now that they tried to do it again with Selen they got obliterated completely because you can't expect a defamation of a 3 month liver vs a founder to work the same way.

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>>70256905
Why would anyone support her if she didn't have proof?

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>>70256637
Well they were - Niji handled Selen's termination in a teribble way, but it was far more justified than Zaion's. She was a goner the moment she told people to pirate the MV.

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>>70256403
Honestly this, every time sayu has a monthly melt down it makes me think of her so much less its like she wants to be the worst victim of niji or something. What was the nail in the coffin for me was that "I exist" stream at one moment where she talked down to people saying she needs to move on like this is what she wants to be known as forever.

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>>70254702
While she’s not wrong she isn’t right either.
You can’t expect people to help someone they don’t know in the same way they would someone with an established reputation.

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>>70256981
This was the only place that was really supporting her and it may be the only reason she got through it all. But this place isn't much. It's influential, but it's very small. We're talking maybe 100 people here

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>>70254702
Yeah, she's right. Even though Niji EN is burning down there's still a lot of slime in the indie scene that needs purging. Hopefully they out themselves the same way.

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>>70257060
What more proof do you need when you're fired for a deez nuts joke?

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>>70257141
Hey we're more than that there is the NDF, some terminally online organs and the grifters.

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>>70257021
Because what is right is right. Plus she's obviously talented. If Niji hadnt tried to destroy her she would have been their new Selen. Ironically

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>>70256981
This shithole got bored of her after a month, fuck off with your revisionism.

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>>70257021
someone being maliciously given 10 ten types of cancer by a company is going to be famous regardless

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>>70256818
Imagine a full mesugaki wave.

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>>70257295
Coal miners aren't famous

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>>70257236
That was just one thing in niji's big list of Zaion's sins, don't be disingenuous. Even if she did get fired solely for that, it would just make people call niji a retardedly strict company that looks the other way for some favorites, not an evil bully company that causes people to an hero.

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>>70255614
She got raided by legal mindset and they wouldn't stop pestering her. It's not like she brought it up herself out of nowhere.
Fuck, the legal mindset thing was funny for the first stream but now he's actually being a serious pest.

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>>70257259
She was the most talented in her wave but I am not sure of the extent of her talent.

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>>70257508
Who didn't see that coming? Does she think drama is a part-time gig?

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>>70257508
He is sucking every milk of this shit

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>>70257236
A deez nuts joke isn't worth torching her fucking career over, retard. A simple vague termination notice would have been rather than trying to paint her as the second coming of Lenin.

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>>70257508
It always goes this way with those type of streamers.

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>>70254702
I don't disagree with what she says

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>>70257508
We should have gatekept dramafaggots harder. Culture war grifters getting into this hobby means vtubing is almost dead.

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>>70257508
He’s entertaining though.
He’s covering what people ask him to, so you can’t really blame him.

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>>70254702
SAYU I CARE

ALSO MARRY ME AND HAVE MY CHILDREN

>MY ROOMMATE
>HE
I’LL SKIN HIM ALIVE NARCO STYLE TO THE TUNE OF ROXXY MUSIC IF HE DOESNT GET THE MEMO

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>>70254702
and that's why she decided to collab with turdparrot and flipsagi?

[Anonymous No.]

Daily reminder that Zaion was never this menhera until NDF and Anycolor dogpiled her into this state. Fuck, there's NDF in this fucking thread trying to shit on her still.

Can't wait for the day Niji completely burns to ash and their fucking defense force with it. I'll even break out the champagne.

[Anonymous No.]

She just can't accept that doki has a stronger and bigger indie vtuber/fleshtuber e celeb clique that she does.

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>>70255614
zaion went through a similar situation in the same company to the point I have seen other people bring her up without her trying. It wouldn't surprise me they also bring up the topic in her chat.

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>>70257508
That nigger has like eight streams of that shit by now. One was funny, two was okay, this is just being a vulture. Aren’t his audience boomers?

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>>70257060
She actually talks about how she can understand people who weren't in the know not like, jumping on to help or whatever, but the people who were actively against her even after the docu hit to clear things, yeah nah.
Proof is a hard subject because we don't know what she has, and that shit was all over the anti-doki threads as if they could show anything without getting hit by a lawyer.
It's more a problem with like, that one guy who was a dick about her being doxed, or the people who are being fake about it all for the solidarity points. If people don't like her, she thinks that's fine, and she admits to having messed up. But she isn't gonna collab with people who acted fake or actively went in to shittalk her because it was the in thing to do

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>>70257753
You really think this bitch was normal? Are you retarded?

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>>70257508
Western vtubers were a mistake

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>>70254702
i mean i get where she is coming from.
imagine busting your ass on the grind all the time as an indie ex corpo and then see some ex corpo suddenly burst in popularity because unlike you she was weak enough to actually try to kill herself and got a burst of support becasue of that.
is it right to be mad? no
is it understandable? yeah, she probably regrets having those intrusive thoughts not win.

i do hate when drama push people that dont have much talent going for them as the next guy but is hard not to get invested in the story of sucide girl vs corporation. selen will drop to her usual levels but i totally understand where sayu is coming from.

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>>70257865
all that left are normiefags who's in only for the "le epic pwn" and the drama

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>>70257759
You're joking but she does admit that doki's situation is different from hers in some ways. That's the whole crux of her situation. She knows why it went down that way, and doesn't wanna get swept into another niji thing because she spent a year going through that, and just wants to move on

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>>70256818

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>>70257865
You talk about what’s popular just like streamers play game of the month
Anything for them numbers

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>>70257919
Yeah, NDF like you bullied her into this mental state back then. Can't wait for your company to burn down, motherfucker.

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if the kill herself part didnt happen she would be the same as sayu by now.

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>>70254702
Nigger, you specifically omitted the actual start of this segment - which is tourists infatuated with Legal Mindset's stream on Sayu trying to convince her his analysis is the new Gospel and she will destroyer Niji together with Doki - even if that wasn't really what he said.

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>>70257894
If she's going to keep talking about this shit then she should just name those faggots, otherwise she's just whining for no reason with a net loss to her own reputation. At least bring some other faggots down while you're at it, the publicity might even earn you new fans even.

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>>70257599
Considering that Selen was very public in telling the goons to pirate the MV, she was a much more justified firing.

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>>70258201
More cowardly shit from NDF, what's new? Now that Doki's proven to be a hard target guess they're switching tacks like the pussies they are.

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>>70257753
you are failing to understand something, nijisisters once they don't have nothing to defend, they go other place and do the same all over again, they will never learn, and they will never accept they have a serious ilness

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>>70254702
Sayu successfully debunked all of the accusations, while Niji ran and zero rebuttal or evidence, meanwhile Dookieturd is the accuser and has zero evidence to show and running

that is the difference

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>>70258483
>Falseflagging this poorly

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>>70257599
Anon, work on your reading comprehension. He clearly meant that this reason is stupid in of itself - you don't need any receipts to defend yourself from it.

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>>70258058
>>70258313
Guys. Nobody here is the "NDF". Your streamer is paranoid and vindictive. There's no bullying, doxxing, or harassment. She would've sued them and shut up. You're getting lost in the sauce.

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>>70258483
wow a live SEA sister

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>>70254702
based Sayu, Doki was just copying her.

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Sayu:
>I understand why ex-Nijis don't want to be my friend, it's fine
NDF:
>SAYU IS A CLOUTCHASING SLUT AND SHE'S A DRAMA CHANNEL AND SHE LEAKED NINA'S IP ADDRESS

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>>70258840
>SHE LEAKED NINA'S IP ADDRESS
That would be Nina and Vshojosisters making those rats.

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>>70258840
/Thread

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>>70255498
I sus out that CyYu guy.

>>70258286
The contracts are written in a way that everyone can be fired at any time. It goes for most black companies or even your contract you have right now. I'll give you an example: If your employee has justified suspected misappropriation of company resources, you can be fired. What might you have misappropriated? Electricity to charge a phone. Time to not work or rest. Resting means not doing anything at all.

>>70258483
She hasn't accused anyone publicly. What she did was something akin to: Hey HR, can you look into these people please?

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>>70258483
Well she didn't debunk ALL the accusations, she admitted she broke the rules multiple times but she had actual evidence about what happened and how she was wronged so anyone with a brain can sympathize her basically being kicked out to satisfy the Twitter drones

Doki just says "believe me because I swear I have proof , I'll just never show it" and pity baits people into buying it. That's mainly why I actually respect Sayu instead of Doki

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>>70258970
no, it's falseflagging nijisisters.

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>>70258840
NDF MO: Lie, make shit up, sway public opinion
Except this time public opinion is so stacked against them they've been run out of everywhere except 4chan and their discord box
It's honestly pretty funny to see

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>>70259079
>She hasn't accused anyone publicly
That's literally the first thing she did the second she realized she got fired. Dokifags actually live in a parallel universe

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>>70259218
Just look at Nijinigs trying to set up another falseflag between Doki and Sayu viewers. They're not as transparent as they seem

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters are improving

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>>70259218
Nijifags also hate Nina for leaving, but sure.

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>>70259079
Strictly speaking, I was defending Sayu in this case. Regardless of whether or not a company can fire you for anything, certain reasons for firing are still more justifiable from the outside looking in.

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>>70259157
No need to show the proof when your opponent shoots themselves in the head voluntarily.

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>>70259577
Ok. The ultimate self own would be posting actual evidence that they're guilty. Let's see this evidence that people in Nijisanji bullied her to suicide

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>>70257236
Well let’s see there was a longer list than just that, mr beast was sued for a similar thing, and finally this is the big one the joke wasn’t the issue. I don’t even watch nijisanji but I remember retards making threads about management trying to make elira say a deez nuts joke. Simpler time back then when everyone knew everything without having to watch streams instead of schizos trying to lie to prove a point

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>>70258576
You are right, there is no NDF in Nijisanji

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>>70259319
I'm sorry, sometimes I think we're adult enough to read context
>She hasn't accused anyone specific publicly

Elira told us:
>"[...]one section (of the document send to Nijisanji by Dokibird's laywer) eludes to Milli and I(Elira)[...]"

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>>70259701
Isn't that just Elira saying her, Millie and Enna's personal info was on the legal doc Selen's lawyer sent during the black box stream?

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>>70259222
>NDF MO: Lie, make shit up, sway public opinion

Is this a bizzaro world? That's literally what happened with the GUrat and the apostrophe shit. Nijisanji was practically always hated by the public who didn't watch Nijisanji

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>>70259452
They hated nine before leaving too.

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>>70259319
Niji themselves outed the bullies, retarded sister
Selen didn't have to do a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>70259319
>still trying to rewrite history when the termination notice is still up on twitter

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>>70258483
>>70259157
Sisters are back with old arguments again, let me get the based boomer layer clips from the first fucking day so they STFU already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70259319
Point out where Doki said "anyone

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>>70254702
Sister is improving I see
>Here pagpag

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>>70259800
Blatant goal post shifting. It went from "accusations" to "accusations against someone specifically " . Nothing Elira said proves she was the one being accused either. Elira saying she was mentioned in the document is not evidence that she bullied her. Use basic critical thinking. Anything that is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence

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>>70259456
Yes, but in both cases I argue that it was immoral to fire them. Sadly laws exist to keep us from not killing each other The Purge(2013) style and hold society together on the bottom line, morally righteous is an afterthought.

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>>70254702
She's not wrong though.
It is however in the interest of the NDF to get ex-talents to hate and undermine each other, it's the Niji curse that will persist even after the EN branch is scrapped.

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>>70260477
Here's the critical thinking
> Doki didn't mention if it's the talents or management that bullied her
> Termination notice specifically said Doki said talents were bullying her and wants to sue
> Elira states her and Millie and Enna's address is included.

Too hard for you eh?

[Anonymous No.]

Being an envious bitch of someone else being supported will make people hate her more. It's been fucking weeks and she's still saying "it's fine if they don't want to be my friend". Holy shit, we get it. If that's the message, then it's been delivered multiple times. Shut up. Sayu has the same problem as Nijisanji. She can't shut the fuck up when she should. There's no tact behind her words when she speaks. Maybe it's her fans who keep bringing up this shit and stunlocking her. Maybe it's the NDF trying to create an adversarial situation between the two fanbases.
It feels as if she has done nothing to improve her situation and only cries out for help. When I saw her land in Silvervale's team for Palworld Twitch Rivals, I thought she had finally done something for herself. That she finally got the support she needed. But nah, here we are again. The 666th Sayu thread with a faggot OP clipping her bitching about the same damn shit saying the same damn thing, stunlocked over and over.

Sayu, and only Sayu, if you're reading this; move on if you say you're moving on. If you're not moving on, there are lots of ways to get back at Nijisanji. You had 2k viewers on Twitch with 499 on Youtube the last stream. You got into a Genshin ad. Make events, make new idea streams, join the few people you trust in tourneys. Do all these and when these dogshit Niji organs drop down into 2views, you'll still be above them as a 4view. At that time, you won't need Doki's name as a currency. People will like you for you, not because you're another Selen or Doki. Not because you've been through the Kurosanji experience first, but for what you STILL HAVE OFFER NOW. Hell, I believe your fanbase already have liked you for you, but you gotta stop it with the pity party. It does nothing but antagonize neutrals and potential fans. Stop getting stunlocked.

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>>70259222
>NDF MO: Lie, make shit up, sway public opinion
add RECYCLE to the list, they keep bringing shit that was debunked, multiple times since the first day.
>it's the perms
>Doki is a bpd menhera don't believe her (funny they never brought this one again after getting absolutely BTFO and scared of getting sued)
>Doki should show proof
>Doki could leave anytime
>is not harassment to ghost her for days
>management didn't know about the one year project, what do you mean with storyboards?
>Doki should make up with kurosanji otherwise she's bad
>Doki is mocking us by being happy getting a button
Absolute clown behavior, you can make a fucking bingo card with the same shit they keep using over and over again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
tl;dw:
nina is a bad person and if doki collabs with matara you should drop her

[Anonymous No.]

No amount of arguing will improve niji’s reputation.
Not in a significant way at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70260477
Sister, Selen and Sayu could've teamed up to keep Scarle naked in a cage with Aster for 3 weeks and it still wouldn't justify anything Niji did to their careers.

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>>70260477
>SEETHE SISTER

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>>70257753
Yeah it's insane.

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>>70260037
>Nijisanji was practically always hated by the public
There is some truth to this, but at the same time it's 100% deserved and self inflicted when you take the audience and history of the company and branches into consideration

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>>70260848
She has had 46 hours streamed in the last week but people only clip five minutes of that when it's to do with the drama
If this is how it's going to be then the catalog deserves to get spammed with Sayu clips on everything else

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>>70260746
Elira self-incriminating is the craziest thing about this entire affair. What the fuck did she think she was going to achieve?

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>>70260848
>Revisionism phase already
Sis your force is be btfo right now so go with them

[Anonymous No.]

>>70257508
>legaltubers being cocksuckers
This has been known for a while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261235
I wish people would clip her funny moments like when she was zaion. Clippers are craven

[Anonymous No.]

>leaker warn us about the next NDF move
They're already trying to divide the public opinion, again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261235
This

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>>70260746
>Even if the statement does not mention him or her by name, it can be actionable on grounds of defamation if a reasonable person would understand the communication as referring to the plaintiff.

It's literally the logic courts work on. No one would have assumed that it was management and she wouldn't have to say it was livers because Nijisanji themselves said she accused other livers of harassment behind their back. There is no evidence that the accusations are real so they can also be easily dismissed with no evidence since there's no proof it's real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70260848
She's not getting stunlocked, she was getting asked repeatedly by legal mindset's idiotic fans

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>>70261493
Right forgot about this thank anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>70255848
She's literally bringing up nipple company every few months since her incident, yet Dookieturd has moved on, where's the lie? Are you on HRT?

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>>70260848
Fuck right off or watch her streams, moron. She's spent dozens and dozens of hours streaming, taking care of chat, actively participating in as much as she can, and she mentions something once in a completely sanitary way for 5 minutes after being hounded by bloodthirsty mongrels and you think that's all she ever talks about?
Grow the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

What sucked, is witnessing the horrible betrayals inside the company during the Zaion suspension/termination. The streamer videos were unneeded commentary that only picked at a still bleeding wound, and Kyo joining in on the mob hate was infuriating to see. The fucker is the most two-faced, hypocritical lying cunt I had the misfortune of seeing him mooching and finessing his way upward in that company. I really wonder how many actually know, of his betrayals, his double standards, and don't care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261721
>Dookieturd has moved on
>Calls her fans dragoons still
>Brags about "owning" her YouTube constellation prize
I don't know about that one

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261721
>E-Every few months trust me
Niggs she only recently talk like a week after the shit went down and i didn't even sure it about them or indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261910
Piprup your 18 already you can stop defending a woman on the internet all day and join society

[Anonymous No.]

>>70257865
Not surprised, there's a whole bunch here that praises everything he does despite being a grifter and encourages him to continue
of course he's going to continue if they're just throwing themselves onto him
he can rot alongside niji and the livers

[Anonymous No.]

qrd me
i know nothing about zaion and only start looking into niji deeply after selen's disappearance

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262227
>Personal attack already
Nta Way to out yourself sister

[sage No.]

>indie vs indie
indie vs indie
>indie vs indie
indie vs indie

[Anonymous No.]

>>70260746
> Elira states her and Millie and Enna's address is included

I will continue to wait for any explanation on how this is "evidence" that proves the document specifically accused Elira of being a bully instead of literally any other equally plausible scenario that can also be created without evidence

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261924
based
I really wanna know what that wiggers plans were the last few weeks. he seems to have made it into the good graces of the dramatubers. he better not just be grifting. and do something big next month

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262470
Sayu was the first instance where Niji tried to slander a talent they're terminating. It worked on her and she was doxxed, harassed and bullied for a whole year until Selen's termination.
Sayu published a document to counter Niji's bullshit but very few believed her until they saw the same thing happen to Selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262164
you can pretend like we don't loop this every two months newfag, maybe she'll hop on 4chan and make a reply to your like last time

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261259
Yeah fuck you. Go with who? I'm a Doki fan not an NDF fan. More than Doki I want Nijisanji to burn in its entirety. You just want Sayu to get stunlocked by drama and weaponize her against Doki because that would work so well for your gayshit NDF instead of letting her see genuine advice that could improve her position.
>>70261235
>She has had 46 hours streamed in the last week but people only clip five minutes of that when it's to do with the drama
And they'll keep doing that to the point that every Sayu thread is a drama thread, even when she's declared the intention of moving on. Her getting stunlocked doesn't help.
>>70261699
>She's not getting stunlocked, she was getting asked repeatedly by legal mindset's idiotic fans
And she keeps taking the bait over multiple streams and tweets. That's what being stunlocked means.
>>70261910
Nigger blame the OP for bringing it up. Where's any Sayu clips on /vt/ that's actually helpful towards her position? Nobody's making threads of that and this shit thread stays up. That's why she just needs to not have those five minutes at all. It's all been said from her before this clip. Or I don't know, just take a shit on Nijisanji the way Doki did or better. Point is, these 8 minutes isn't a good look and people are weaponizing it against her instead of favoring her, and you're in here bumping the thread.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262801
It's not. Because this isn't a court room. The point is that it should never have been public and Nijisanji just threw them to the wolves by painting a target on their back, whether or not any actual bullying took place, it's 100% on Niji for publicizing such retarded statements.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262120
>constellation prize
The fuck are you talking about? This ain't Finana's Genshin gacha hour.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261493
>divide the public opinion

By divide public opinion, do you mean they argue why they're right like anybody would do if they think they're right? Are you retards actually this easy to be fooled?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
i love seeing dumbass over the wall whores bitch and moan like women
if she was within arms reached I'd have raped the fuck out of her and impregnated her while she complained
bipolar hag failures like sayu are so fucking hot

[Anonymous No.]

70262926

aw shit the discord is raiding this thread pack it up everyone

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262470
Anycolor dragged her name through the mud like they did to Selen, then NDF harassed and doxxed her address.
Now NDF are left desperately trying to drive a wedge between both fanbases because they have nothing else left to fight with. It's kinda pathetic to see, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263051

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262884
Thanks. How awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262870
It's virtually confirmed he tried to enact the grass-roots creator counter narrative by having his personal friend DAPH39 shit on Doki. He is HIGHLY LIKELY the one who broke his NDA and shared details she shouldn't know, such as "everyone" got separate documents. Kyo/Quinn is still up to his antics stabbing the back of his colleagues, and leaving his "friends" to hang when they flounder, because it most certainly blew up in Daph's face when she tried to shit on Doki, and you don't see her good "friend" coming to her rescue at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
If you really wanted to help her it would've been better if you didn't make clips of her to dramafag against her wishes, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262926
Yeah, I guess that's a fair take. I'm still tired from all the shit being flung her and Doki's way. Both of them just want to be left alone to rebuild but it's insane that people just keep harassing them like this. It reminds me of how Scientology keeps harassing you and following you after you leave for decades trying to rope you back in for donations even though you've blocked them on as many avenues as you can. Fucking niji cultists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70259757
To compare with the reason Mr. Beast was sued over it shows you are a retard. Look beyond the headline, stupid.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263227
>No real counterpoint other than falseflagging
Fucking pussy. You're getting one-guy'd by me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262989
>whether or not any actual bullying took place
Dumbest argument yet. If actual bullying didn't happen and they're being falsely accused and harassed for it, of course they're going to reveal as much of the truth as possible if they're innocent. Everything Doki has done would flip on it's head if it's revealed that she lied about getting bullied

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisisters still be trying to convince themselves Anycolor didn't fire the first retarded shot into their own foot

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263227
The only fuckers raiding are from the doxxsite

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263133
Here in 6 months when all that fresh free from kurosanji money dries up, the BPD will really start kicking in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262801
>literally any other equally plausible scenario

Elaborate what other scenario would their address get included in the legal document

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263782
Which is why it's also strange Doki hasn't posted receipts, despite claiming almost immediately that she totally has them. Most indie drama I've seen starts with receipts being posted, not this mexican standoff bullshit these two got going on.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70255658
That is a huge difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262801
>>70262989
IF there was actual bullying involved, the only one who could certainly have done it is the one with power over Selen's projects, but everyone keeps thinking it was all about bullying, when Doki explained that there were other things that were a problem in the company, such as preferential treatment. Also, names might be included because they could merely be a witness to an incident, and if this was brought to a court, they would need to be questioned. I highly doubt everyone there was even close to being a bully, but it probably sucked that she didn't at least get any support from anyone else against management's bizarre decisions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263782
Let's put it simply. If I put out a public statement saying "There was ABSOLUTELY NO murder of Rosemi Lovelock. She DEFINITELY DIDN'T get stabbed to death by Aster Arcadia in the middle of the night on Feb 27th, 2024." to 1 million concurrent viewers, and Rosemi has been missing since that day, how do you think people would react?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70261250
People tend to project on others. Elira would have gone nuclear in selen’s place so she thought to strike first.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70257508
you retards invited this, you superchatted him and boosted him, now lie in your dramafag grave as long as you leave doki alone

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264084
She really doesn't have to, this has nothing to do with her anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264226
Similar to when Kotoka posted about very definitely not being the leaker responsible for Mel's termination, huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263803
>"Here's what she claimed was happening. She said she would publicly make a statement accusing us of harassment. We know these claims are false"
>"Wow, I can't believe they accused themselves of harassment and also said they were guilty for no reason "
This is how your mind operates

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264363
This was admittedly an error.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263697
kek the only thing I'm guilty of is when I stole your bitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264084
Why does she need to? The receipts were leverage to get out of her contract so she could quit. She was fired. It was a horrible way to get fired, but she's out. Right now they're just a shield in case Niji tries to keep attacking her. She has no reason to go back into the fire. Her reputation is fine, despite Nijisanji's bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264381
If her goal is to get Nijisisters off her ass, no. She has to go scorched earth until they have no ground to stand on

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264363
I’m glad Doki has raids disabled on YT

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
Sayu's right.
It was the fans that shit on her without her being able to speak. And when she did, most still sided with the black company. Toxic company, toxic fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264657
We both know nothing short of nuking SEA would help her case in this regard.

[Anonymous No.]

Sayu love

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263479
yeah I think while thats a possibility, I think either daph was tricked, asked by someone else, or she had a deal with kyo. she basically made it worse because she was not given any actual information.
But why has kyo been leaking shit to us? even to the point of the birth of the gurrat? why does it seem to be impossible to find the thread in which "follow the rose" originated, or maybe Im just stupid. but I cant find it. I literally responded to him back then, why is the thread not in warosu? why are there dozens of anon posts afterwards? I dont get it. And how much do False and Khyo know? they have to know what he did to sayu, why are they promoting him for free before he even resurfaces? So many questions...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264470
Exactly. The only people who were seriously making that dumb rrat was /vt/ and twitter, etc. had no fucking clue. Streissand effect at work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264620
Sayu was right, thanks for proving it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262470
>Zaion, former niji talent that got hit with the same restrictions/suspensions as Selen
>Only difference is that she never got to establish an audience as she was only with niji for about 3 months, and only streamed for 1
>Said a rape joke on stream, while tame by most normal standards, twitter nijifags went feral
>One of them was the literal alt account of another niji talent, Kyo
>Kyo has ALSO said racist shit about Koreans to the point literal Koreans were telling him it wasn't okay, but it was fair game to throw his own co-worker to a bunch of doxxing trannies
>Zaion gets terminated just like Selen
>Has no audience, or goodwill, to back her up and has to fend off the pack of trannies herself
>Niji talents also get to throw her under the bus before she can even speak up on her alt account
>Of them she was accused of gaslighting, and one talent unironically stated she 'couldn't wish her well in the future'
>Zaion, now Sayu, gets mindbroken
Now she has occasional upset fits as shown by OP, but she's fine now for the most part. Sadly, she has to associate with insanely parasitic drama leeches. That said, ignore any of these hate threads they are 100% made by nijisisters.
Doki making niji look like shit is one thing, but Sayu making them look like shit is something that destroys them since that was the only time their hate raids have ever seemed to work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264381
>She really doesn't have to
>>70264624
>Why does she need to?

To prove she's right? It's called evidence. Why should I believe either side until we've seen it? That's why it's innocent until PROVEN guilty. Saying she doesn't need to is cope. Why are you afraid of seeing it so much?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264084
receipts outside of courts are meant to sway public opinion, e.g. kylr rittenhouse footage, amber heard v. johnny depp.
Doki already won the public opinion, recipes do nothing but further damage relationship between her and other Niji talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265029
Then don't believe her. She doesn't care, because she already got what she needed the evidence for (to leave the company). It's that simple. It was never meant to be public in the first place, so it doesn't matter what you know or don't know. Just keep seething if you want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264932
>yeah I think while thats a possibility, I think either daph was tricked, asked by someone else
She was certainly made into a tool, but it was definitely Kyo. Kyo is Daph's only connection to Nijisanji, they are personal friends with each other, although I would always question whether or not Quinn could ever be trusted as a "friend".
>But why has kyo been leaking shit to us? even to the point of the birth of the gurrat?
Kyo is part of the clique, he is not leaking info for the gurrat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263963
Scenario 1: A lot of people in Niji met up in the city Elira lives in where Selen viewed a conversation with someone or even multiple people as harassment

Scenario 2: Selen accused Millie and Enna of being nepo hires that Elira got in with evidence being they all live in the same city

Scenario 3: Selen writes about times she was invited to meet up with them but refuses and her reasons for refusing could be she suspects they believe the "rumors" or that they're fake or whatever. Pick your poison

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
>which is why she never wants to collab with those people ever again
Is she purposely isolating herself?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265029
She doesn't need to prove shit since she's doing well ignoring AnyColor while AnyColor and its livers have burnt through most of what good will they had.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265004
Don't forget, the address dox came from within Nijisanji. Whole company is rotten to the core

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265199
>she needed it to leave the company
>claims she tried to graduate on her own earlier
Which is it? Those are contradicting stories. Strange...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265325
yeah she kinda has to. She's been burned a lot of times. She's been cheated on, manipulated, replaced, etc, all kinds of taken advantage of countless times. So she's at least learning not to trust people who've burned her before so easily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264946
yup she loves white cock which is based

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265279
I think the most simple explanation is that Enna has Nina in her 2nd Ethyria music video, and so does Selen, but they cockblocked her music video, ergo the preferential treatment accusations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265408
>She doesn't need to prove shit
So true sister. #believewomen #amberheardwasright

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265444
What do you think a graduation is, sister? Nijisanji doesn't hand out diplomas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265325
Would you befriend people of low moral fibre? People, you know, have only now started acting good when it's convenient and popular?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264226
If I tell people "My crazy ex-girlfriend told me she's going to spread a lot of made up bullshit about me. Don't listen to her, she's deliberately trying to ruin me " and then my ex-girlfriend does exactly that after she finds out I told people that, why the fuck would that incriminate me? Only a naive dumbass would find that incriminating

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265673
Careful, might catch some flak for that in your shitcord..

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265673
Sorry that Dokibird won by basically doing nothing while NijiEN flounders

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265674
Pretty sure if you want to leave you can just leave without needing imaginary "receipts" and saying you recorded people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
doki and sayu had the same awful kurosanji experience
>doki
guys lets move on
>sayu
MEMEMEMEMEMEMEMEME

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265694
Nijisanji already has every single log that Selen has ever made. They have every single receipt, every transaction, every document.
And all they could cobble together was six shitty images that proved management was purposefully ignoring their jobs and ghosting her.
On top of that they have a history of being a shit company and everybody who's ever worked with them can corroborate that it's a shit place to work. Why the fuck are you even considering that they could be telling the truth? Because they pay Vox?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265826

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265693
I'd be happy if being a good person was popular.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265694
Only a naive dumbass wouldn't raise an eyebrow at the development here. You might as well be trying to cover your ass.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265898
>guys lets move on
Actions speak louder than words. No one who wants to move on copies their old fanbase name then brags about getting a play button for the first time. Niji is forever rent free in her head and you have to be blind or stupid not to see it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265279
>Scenario 1
Doesn't explain millia and Enna's address
> Scenario 2
That's not how nepo hires works, also City location are not address
> Scenario 3:
HOW DERANGED ARE YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265826
>The assblasted Kindred outs itself.
Scum

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265694
If you're a cocaine fueled drug addict with a history of false police reports, while your ex-girlfriend has a spotless record, then yes, it's incriminating.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265276
>Kyo is Daph's only connection to Nijisanji
no. she also knows enna.

>Kyo is part of the clique, he is not leaking info for the gurrat.

Kyo is quite literally LK anon. If hes just grifting or if he was actually trying to bring down clique is hard to say, but this isnt a secret if youve been doing reps, it took me like almost a week to be sure after the night of the gurrat, but there were a bunch of anons that called it as early as the 17th or maybe 18th. He clearly wanted to be found out and there is no way that he wont try to ride this wave somehow, for fame, or bank, or Idk what.
>kyo is part of clique
no, he fucked up when he doxxed zaion, shit exploded to a point where even suits stepped in.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70260037
nigger 75% of normies dont know what the fuck a nijisanji is until this incident

[Anonymous No.]

Funny how Selen's apparently lying and yet Nijisanji apparently just can't produce anything that'd actually support their side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
The fans voted for it are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
>Indie vs indie
Don't fall for it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265951
It's doubly funny because anyone who has cropped images to shitpost can tell that they omitted all the logs before the 24th in order to make their hitpiece
If they actually had anything damning you'd bet NDF would be plastering it all over the place by now

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265951
>ignoring their jobs and ghosting her.
>not even 2 days
>first thing they do is apologize for taking so long
Meanwhile what has Doki shown? Nothing? Weird...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70262470
>In XSOLEIL wave
>Was a gacha steamer(genshin)
>Got to share a fucking a weeks (2 allegedly) hire manager with her Genmate of 6
>Lead to believe she could use pl game acc (other nijis did) then ask around
>got told to start over
>get sus of management cus she have working exp(apple)
>Try to contact upper management and got clique mad
>Tell some joke at video Chara &Deez nut (one unfinished SA joke which she apologize & shota jokes cause they metas)
>Get shadow suspended
>Doxxed and harassed by niji while in suspension
>Nijien likely encourage or start it
>Got booted with BS termination
>Smear by organs and got pariah status
>Release doc that got confirm by shit Niji pull on selen
>In pariah status for almost a year & nijisis attacks
>Clawing back form hell with help of real friends
>Selen/doki situation happen (doki is free!)
>Got second look for cause ppl recognized shit Niji pulls and her doc is proven right
>Trying to stay out of drama
>Got raid by lawyertuber after 10+ hour of steaming
>complaining about cloutchaser indies
>You're here

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
You missed the biggest statement on this she made right at the start. She said that all her achievements are hers. The trophy, dragoons. Those are not nijisanji's. She made those into what they are.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70257688
Then you are extremely late to the party. Culture war grifters started getting into it back when Pippa did a roast of the rage pig 2 years ago.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265029
she knows that it will destroy people's lives more than it already has, she's too good a person

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266428
Why was it an option in the first place? Think. I know it's hard for you, but think.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
Small jabs vs a bitch who drops long winded speeches and walls of text, and mind you the play button was more her shitposting with the name she put on it than it was about Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264482
LMAO
Do sisters really?
The people were already suspicious, they just needed an extra push.
They SHOULD have negotiated with selen privately instead and arrived at a settlement with no drama involved.
In fact everything started when they privated the video. The mere fact of privating it damaged their reputation. They should have edited the video asap and replace the original instead and then give selen a stealth suspension or something. That would have protected their reputation much better.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265951
Ah yes, the accused is automatically guilty because they don't provide ENOUGH evidence that they're not lying. Maybe they'd have posted more evidence if Doki didn't basically gag them with a lawsuit threat in the event they do show the document, go through it and explain how everything is wrong
>>70266028
Yes, if someone is threatening to ruin my reputation, that would greatly affect me so I'd cover my ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266506
Petra's music video has been in development since 2021. Pomu's was only BARELY approved in time for graduation. Selen's was given a hard deadline of christmas, was completely finished, and management hadn't even paid anyone, sent NDAs, or even bothered to check if they had permissions despite receiving storyboards throughout the entire fucking year. They were never going to let that video air. Not before 2027 at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266506
Evidently enough to place her in the right in public perception while the company she left can't actually show anything from their side besides proof their livers are horribly managed...which only benefits Selen's side of the story.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266579
>all her achievements are hers
Cope. She would still be a 3 view if not for Nijisanji. None of you would give 2 shits about her and she and everyone else knows it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266715
Imagine being so insecure that you feel attacked by some bitch sharing a picture of her trophy kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
You don't see Doki collabing with Depressed Nousagi, Parrot, and False.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266993
>She would still be a 3 view if not for Nijisanji
funny cuz last time i check 80% of the Niji are 3views, almost as if she did all by herself

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
nice try, NDFsis, but those are hers, not nijis.
she can and will joke about the experience and we would all laugh along with her. it doesn't mean it's rent free and can't move on from it. it's just another meme for the history books.

[Anonymous No.]

Doki succeeded because she didn't get in bed with dramatubers and grifters. If Sayu didn't want to be treated like a pariah, she shouldn't have sucked off all the vtuber Keemstar wannabes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266910
I don't understand why you can't get this. It literally does not matter anymore what Selen claimed. Nijisanji's actions regarding her termination and everything else since has painted them as a shit company and is what directly killed their reputation to even normies. Doki hasn't had to do shit. Unless they seriously want to try again and absolutely gut themselves, they need to back off before they blow off their other foot too. Their actions NOW are what people are judging them for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266261
The addresses are explicitly not mentioned. Elira said the document only alludes to where she lives. Elira, Millie and Enna all famously live close to each other. The argument in scenario 2 is that she'd argue Nijisanji nepotism'd Enna and Millie in because they're friends with Elira. Proof that they're good friends would be they live in the same area

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267233
Easy to say, except nobody else was bothering to support her

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267170
>it doesn't mean it's rent free
That's exactly what it means. Saying it doesn't is cope, not reality.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267416
I also don't blame her, niji and these SEA monkey subhumans treated her like shit. Death would be a mercy for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263782
Think about it like this. You hear gunshots. The police show up. You might be a suspect and ask you about the murder next door. You respond, “I don’t know, I didn’t shoot anybody.”

That looks bad to the cops because they never mentioned anything about the person being shot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266380
>no. she also knows enna.
I don't recall them ever meeting before Nijisanji, since Kyo just introduced Daph39 to Enna in one stream, and it was extremely cringe inducing. They have never interacted since, or even communicated to each other on twitter.
>Kyo is quite literally LK anon.
Is this some sort of Kyomie copium? He is literally part of the problem.
>no, he fucked up when he doxxed zaion
HAHAHAHA are you aware of something I'm not? You sound like one of the idiots inside Nijisanji who keeps self-reporting their own crimes. Kyo doxxed Zaion? I'm aware he joined the hate mob against her, but this is even far worse than I imagined. Also you needn't any further proof why he is NOT leaking for the gurrat. He's scum, he's a backstabber, and only cares about clout and his image.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267233
Sayu is doing fine. She's just pointing out that the Indie Community is still crawling with vindictive whores that will do the exact same things that Elira and co. did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266993
You're right. That's why all of the Nijisanji English talent are 5 views, right? Because of all of the support they're getting? Every single one of them is doing fantastic, right, all thanks to the company?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267416
>>70267540
Agreed. Nijisister death is a higher priority
They only seethe about these people because they call out Niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266678
Well since you want me to think, as far as I know Dragoon is not owned by Nijisanji, and dragoon sounds cooler than nesticles.
You argue she's not trying to move on by using the same Fanname, what's next she's not allowed to do the dokibites, because she made it in Nijisanji first?(nijibites)
If she used Selen and just changed the last name, I'd be a bit on your side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267553
>Is this some sort of Kyomie copium? He is literally part of the problem.
People say that he backstabs everyone, so it is a possibility that he is backstabbing the clique too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267709
Oof, these aren't even burger flipper numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267233
Doki had instant support, while for sayu, the only people who cared were parrot, dn or false. Everyone else was too scared to offend niji, despite the writing on the wall. They still thought they shouldn't burn that bridge, when the bridge led straight into a radioactive wasteland. But now, NOW when it's socially acceptable, popular even, to make a public show out of burning that bridge is when suddenly everyone who scuttled before is trying to paint themselves as the good guy. Where were all this outspoken and just people before? Where were all the artists and cosplayers with their months old complaints and grudges when sayu was being crucified?
I'll tell you where they were: writing another e-mail to niji asking for a re-do on the faulty NDA instead of looking for another job opportunity that doesn't involve working for literal slavers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267709
Still hilarious that a bunch of Niji livers couldn't outnumbers Doki+homos

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267998
Yes. Also reminder t hat those aren't monthly or weekly. That's total. Before Niji and Youtube's cut. Since debut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
Doki is mentally ill, but kind. You are an bitch even at your best. It is not a double standard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266993
niji gave her the platform, but she already paid that price ten times over. she was their best female EN for a good reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267550
Not even a similar scenario. It's more like if a streamer tells the police department that people will try to swat him and asks them to not bust down the door and shoot their dog. No sane person would just automatically assume the guy is actually a terrorist and is covering it up

[Anonymous No.]

>w-we can't beat Doki... she's too big and strong...
>l-let's create more Sayu drama and shit on her today!
>heck yeah!
Sisters, please.

[Anonymous No.]

Dear, sisters
There is no narrative that you can push. Doki is a "BPD" menhera, Doki was the drama mastermind who brought down NijiEN, or what about "both sides." Sayu is disgusting, Sayu is equally as bad as NijiEN, or Sayu is a "clout chaser." Hololive/other corpo is equally as bad, b-but what about Hololive/other corpo, or “blank” Vtuber/talent is bad. Whatever, none of that changes the fact that NijisanjiEN is dead. All of your "livers" will be gone by the end of the year. Vox, Elira, and the others are going to be out of a job soon. Even if NijiEN somehow continues I hope you and your "livers" enjoy being the laughing stock and vermin of the Vtubing space. Meanwhile, Hololive EN, other corpos, Dokibird, Sayu along with every other talent harmed by Niji will live on and there is nothing you can do about it. Cope you femcel sub-human bitches.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70268029
My new favorite nijiprojection is
>doki copied her old fanbase name and brags about her play button
>clearly niji lives rent free in her head and she's seething about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>70258483
Show me any evidence of Doki accusing anyone publicly? All evidence of anyone being involved came from Nijisanji, if they had just done whay Doki asked and stfu and left her alone NOBODY WOULD KNOW ANYTHING and this probably would have been well over by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70263963
>if not for Nijisanji
Nijisanji rn is seriously, unironically, statistically on par with fish connect

[Anonymous No.]

Also, sisters could've already compiled a 1-2 minute clip of Doki throwing subtle jabs at the corpo if they were dedicated enough to sit through all her post-Feb14 streams and add it to their 'SHE LYIN ABOUT WANTING TO MOVE ON REEEEE' nothingburger rrat but they can't even do that. Truly pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70267553
I am pro sayu and pro doki. I am obsessed with the whole topic because something similar was done to me a few years ago and I lost everything because of it, not just professionally. I wish I could tell sayu my story some day, maybe that would help her in some way.
anyway, Im worried that this guy is going to show up again and go full "I WAS THE HERO ALL ALONG" because nobody here does their reps, he might just get away with it. Im trying to prevent that. I want him to either actually bomb clique and nijisanji to the point where their crimes become public and they and him actually seriously show remorse for their actions and where the remaining innocent livers are protected.

as for sayu getting doxxed, yes. Leaker-san pointed that out a day or two ago. That this happened was known here, we just thought it was Millie. But it wasnt.

>self reporting
what am I selfreporting. Im not kyo, or niji, or even a vtuber.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266993
This is meant for you>>70268985

[Anonymous No.]

>>70268985
Pommers..... this is what they did to your dream.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>70268005
Regis, Rennie, all the Phase girls, Kirsche, Hina, Savii, Milky, Silvervale, 2win, Onigiri, Nano, Shondo from my memory

But you are right, many were afraid and some still are. And others were snakes.

[Anonymous No.]

>not a single reply to my replies
Sisters you are making me sad...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70268998
I've watched every stream and I'm pretty sure the only time anything even vaguely resembling Niji since the return stream was her making a jab about Neopets during helldivers that was immediately dismissed. The power of having a lawyer and actual support behind you...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269102
Sayu's DMs are open on Twitter and she reads them

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269208
Don't be sad, they pick the lowest hanging fruit.

[Anonymous No.]

Vox will stream again sisters....someday. I know you are boring but please resist the urge to post shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70265694
Except in this scenario the boyfriend has
>abruptly broke up with his ex-gf Yugo
>publicly smeared his ex-gf zaion
>ex-gf nina that broke up with the boyfriend throws shade at him
>ex-bf mysta does the same
>ex-gf Pomu makes her diary public of about him cucking her out of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity

[Anonymous No.]

>>70268985
Damn phasekeks are hitting 1k now

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269208
pls andastand, when they get BTFO they've gotta finish another pint of ice cream and then brainstorm how to reply with each other on their doxxcord
it's definitely not obvious that their replies come in waves, nope

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269366
This is my only interaction with real women...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269201
During her depression arc she's stated that the stuff that hurt the most wasn't the lack of public support, but more the lack of anybody even willing to reach out in private. She understands and doesn't expect anyone to risk their own career to support her publicly, but the lack of anybody even coming to talk to her behind the scenes was heartbreaking. People are finally starting to reach out privately, but it's hard to build any kind of trust again after being burned THIS hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>"teehee look I can T O U C H my play button now *wink* *wink*
>"haha we get it slay queen kurosanji btfo keep throwing those jabs"
>"huh, that's really petty for someone who claims to want to move on"
>"YOU'RE JUST MAKING UP DRAMA NIJISISTER STAY MAD"
Dokicucks are just as bad as nijicucks in their blind devotion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269480
don't forget about the part where internet found out they hire highschoolers as housekeepers with minimum wage

[Anonymous No.]

>>70260037
The gurrat and apostrophe shit are basically nothing compared to the constant tirade of "docs", complete lies and debunked shit that has come from Nijisisters. There have literally been multiple "docs" and a "hitlist" in the last week when everyone else just wants to move on. These NDF fucks keep bringing more attention to the situation then crying that Doki is letting her fans harrass people. Just stop stirring shit and it will die down you fucking stupid idiots?????

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269667
Stop trying to make them stop fighting, I'm enjoying the fucking show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269326
Let them cook. They'll add stuff like 'Nobody is getting bullied in our company haha' as 'evidence' and we can laugh at them.

[Anonymous No.]

>Nijisisters proving once again that they are nothing but vermin

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269903
Oh, ok. Carry on then.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
This is pretty normal in abuse situations like cults/black companies.
There's usually a rift between those who get out early and those who get out later, because the former didn't suffer with the rest and the latter didn't support the former enough.
Unfortunately unless you're seeing a therapist who specializes in these situations it often gets overlooked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269667
Oh no she got a play button can your liver say the same?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269201
Sayu collabs with shiina for example, so she does appreciate that support.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270293
Stop, you will hurt their feelings again..

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269201
>>70270315
Yes she was referring to many of her pre-Niji friends

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
the whole twitch/twitter vtuber fandom is way more toxic than anything on /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269480
Ok, even ignoring the cherry picking and how dumb the scenario of equating a business to dating is, how does being a bad boyfriend mean that people should immediately believe all terrible accusations made about the boyfriend with no proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70255614
how does it have nothing to do with her? doki literally collabed with U-san immediately because every single termination out of nijiEN was fraudulent

god you're an idiot

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270561
> how does being a bad boyfriend mean that people should immediately believe all terrible accusations made about the boyfriend with no proof?
Except there's plenty of proof...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270561
> how does being a bad boyfriend mean that people should immediately believe all terrible accusations made about the boyfriend with no proof?

You know what they say, 10th time's the charm eh

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270551
Unironically. I've seen so many random "call out" videos on youtube from random tiny 1view vtubers talking about how everybody's constantly either stabbing each other in the back or trying to manipulate others into an easy fuck. It sounds awful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270561
Ever heard of the scorpion and the frog? You're a great frog.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269672
>complete lies and debunked shit that has come from Nijisisters.

There has literally not been a single person able to disprove anything in the document was wrong without making shit up. Every random spewing of bullshit was immediately ate up and accepted as a plausible truth by the public. How in the fuck are you saying the documents "swayed public opinion" while multiple people still believe shit like the GUrat and the apostrophe shit which is just blatantly made up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70264482
When did she say she would make a public statement accusing anyone? she literally made one single tweet mentioning bullying and a toxic work environment. All these claims have come from Nijisanji. The professional way to deal with this would be to talk in private and negoiate everyone shutting the fuck up. Immediately going public the way they did reeks of desparately trying to sway public opinion to their side.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270561
>no proof
>there's proof but i don't want to believe

Can't you make less obivous, sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270734
>Except there's plenty of proof...
Okay, let's see the proof of these accusations. Wait the accuser said she will never post the proof and every instance of "proof" made up by the public are essentially basic rumors

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270561
>no proof
My sister in christ. Their behavior is completely unacceptable in a civilized world. Every single person who's ever worked with Nijisanji has complained about them. Meanwhile the INSTANT Doki got out of there, she was approached by several companies who were only in bed with Niji to get to her directly, implying that she is clearly a better business partner than the billion dollar company, despite being a single goddamn girl without a yacht. Nijisanji has nobody to vouch for them except for the people on their payroll.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271039
>the accuser said she will never post the proof
Which makes the point moot, and we come back to
>Nijisanji is a shit company
The proof?
>Nijisanji keeps exposing themselves that they are a shit company

[Anonymous No.]

>>70270979
>When did she say she would make a public statement accusing anyone?
It'd be pretty stupid to say they lied about that as you immediately do what they say they were lying about

>She said she was going to ruin my reputation by making false accusations to the public
>That's bullshit! Anyways, he raped me and he's trying to cover it up

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>10:30PM

one of you niggers make /ss/, it's almost time

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271223
We're not talking about Nijisanji being a bad company, retard. The terrible accusations that are being made with no evidence is that they bullied her to suicide. Where's the proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271410
So true, sister #cut4wilson #cut4vox

[Anonymous No.]

>>70254702
The bottom line is people didn't like her as much as they like Doki/Selen. Niji was able to "Zaion" Zaion because she was already on the wrong side of the twitter mob for the mostly benign shit she was doing. I always felt that Sayu didn't deserve the shit that she got, but there's a clear reason why the dichotomy between the reactions exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271410
hate to break it to you but vox confirmed it of all people

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271385
>>70271608
>>70271608
>>70271608

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271410
Cope

[Anonymous No.]

I love this crazy japanese american 30 year old single hag who pays alimony and going on menhera rant on the internet (she is justified)

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271112
That's not proof they bullied her to suicide. That isn't even proof Nijisanji fucked up the paperwork. Aia said the talents are completely in charge of the paperwork involved when they commission artists. Stay on topic

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269351
I wish I knew how to do this anon. I think if her and I could speak from like, a 30+yearold woman to woman with a very similar traumatic experience, I think maybe it would help her a bit? Ive a different perspective because for me, slightly more time has passed. But I also dont want her to feel like Im making shit up, or worse, trying to belittle her pain in any way. my experience had more drastic endresults because it had a lot more violence, the timeframe was longer and theres a lot of permanent physical damage. But I dont think that makes that much of a difference. I think the worst part is getting backstabbed by those you trust, and being surrounded by people that see the knives in your back and do nothing except attack you when you dont function perfectly when they poke your metaphorical wounds for kicks. And the hardest part about healing from that is forgiving the world for it and learning to mourn what was lost. This is very hard to do alone for most people, its easier when you talk to someone that has gone through something similar. But from her perspective, Im not a person. Im just some follower or a sub, part of the mass in best case, and in worst case, Im some parasocial schizo making things up for attention.
I guess the issue is that shed need to have some basic trust in what I say, but especially with her constantly getting targeted, I dont want her to trust random people with something this delicate because I know exactly how dangerous that is. She has no way of telling if Im just making shit up or not, or if Im some SEAslave trying to get her to say something that niji could use. I know Im not of course, but she doesnt.
So the only thing I end up doing is telling her in chat when I watch her that I think shes awesome, and hope that she sees it sometimes.
Idk man, Im just autistic or something, I cant figure it out. I been thinking about this since december.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271410
To hijack the stupid fucking comparison in this thread, your crazy ex threatens to smear you publicly. She shows you exactly what she intends to use for this purpose. Instead of shooting yourself in the head like niji have done, the innocent person would get ahead of the shitstorm by releasing the receipts themselves. This is common sense, which they clearly lack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271410
Do you think Vox's proud of never getting his play button despite sucking corporate dick on the daily? But in a way, it's a blessing for him. Imagine him being constantly reminded by the play button that is hanging on his wall that he used to whore out and degrade himself to the Chinese fujos on the daily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271649
Great. Let's see the evidence that they bullied her to suicide. Vox saying that what they did isn't harassment is not proof they harassed her, if that's what you're going to say

[Anonymous No.]

I don't get why sayu bros or anybody would be concerned. It just means that she's doing well enough mentally and career wise to tell people to fuck off. Heck she was talking about the other indies who distanced themselves from her when niji smeared her but got in the Doki gravy train. It's not even particularly about the ex niji talents.
But I can see why it would come off as her being envious of Doki. Clippers love a good bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266206
Nice, but how fucking deluded are you? Those ARE all hers and she's right to claim them back she built that shit not Nijisanji. Also the fan name was chosen via PUBLIC VOTE the dragoons choose to remain dragoons. And why wouldn't she brag about a play button Kuro did the same thing and i don't see you Nijisisters using that to shit on him???

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271712
>Aia said
How do you expect talents to be in charge of contracts when the contracts concern the company they work for? Wouldn't that, again, constitute overreach for which Sayu and Selen had been stealthily punished in the past?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271931
Vox is going to be out of a job soon sister and there is nothing you can do about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271712
>Aia said the talents are completely in charge of the paperwork involved when they commission artists
Managers must have the coziest job, not doing their fucking job.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271931
>Vox only streams once a month
Vox hates his femcel sub-human fans so much he hates streaming lmao
At least he has time to be with his lover Reimu lol
And he gets a shit ton of money from you cuck sisters kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271931
How bout you provide proof that she claimed they bullied her to suicide? Give me an explicit statement by Dokibird in a public forum stating that Nijisanji talent and management specifically bullied her to the point of suicide. Because all she's ever claimed publicly is that it's a shit company that tried to lie about her. Which we know is likely because they're known to be a shit company that likes to lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271931
Him saying that they did not consider their actions harrassment??? I hate to break it to you but the person being harrassed is usually the one who decides if they feel harrassed, in any other situation you people would be calling this victim blaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271976
They're the ones commissioning them and in charge of communication with them so they're supposed to give them the paperwork to sign so they can give it to Niji. It's pretty simple

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272138
The termination notice specifically listed her doing that as a reason for her termination. You didn't even fucking read it. They HATED every single time she proved that she didn't need them by sidestepping management to actually get projects done.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271712
So, why the fuck Nijisanji exist for? For what the managers exist? Why a talent need to handle the paperwork when should be a managers work?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271871
The receipts they can't post because they got gagged by a lawsuit threat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272242
Because Nijisanji is run like a goddamn pyramid scheme, apparently. Just look at their recent announcement that even outfits won't be available on tickets anymore, requiring them to only be at Nijisanji's discretion, aka nepotism.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272093
It's literally her first tweet after she got fired. You shouldn't be discussing things you don't know anything about just to spit vitriol

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272283
>gagged by a lawsuit threat
Am I speaking to a child? It's their fucking logs, they can release them if they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271712
.>talents are responsible for legal paperwork that would include NDA's and aquisition of commercial rights for art etc.on behalf of a corporation.
Do you realise how retarded that sounds. there is no way talents can be reponsible for all the paperwork.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272384
Go ahead and post it then. I'll wait. Read it carefully now.

[Anonymous No.]

The NFD is not sending its best...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272103
>victim blaming.

Go back. Someone feeling they were harassed because her co-workers criticized her work ethic and behavior isn't harassment. Being scolded isn't harassment. Judges don't just see harassment cases and immediately say guilty because the person feels they were harassed

[Anonymous No.]

Low hanging fruit and all that

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272439
https://x.com/dokibird/status/1754459958119432664?s=20

I already know what you're going to say. See read the definition of what constitutes as defamation.

>For statement to be considered defamation, it must be about the plaintiff. Even if the statement does not mention him or her by name, it can be actionable on grounds of defamation if a reasonable person would understand the communication as referring to the plaintiff.

You don't need to name the person you're accusing if anyone with a pulse knows who or what you're talking about. Amber Heard did the exact same thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272353
>Because Nijisanji is run like a goddamn pyramid scheme, apparently
If you work hard enough one day you, too, can be a manager, and get a chunk of the 98% for doing absolutely nothing. Look at noor, she did it, and you can too!

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272409
They're in charge of handing the paperwork over because they're the ones communicating with the artist and are in charge of paying them. They don't actually write up the contracts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272814
Surely they will sue her for defamation then, the fucking retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272814
>You don't need to name the person you're accusing if anyone with a pulse knows who or what you're talking about.
Which individual is she mentioning then? People immediately assumed enna to the point that people still list her as a bully now despite her never being mentioned, but it turns out it was fucking elira that was fingered in the document.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272398
You can't disprove shit in the document if you're being legally gagged from publicly exposing the contents of the document

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272814
Lmao, look at the monkey screeching at the wall thinking it's convincing anyone. What's wrong sis, got community noted in twitter again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272814
Yes. Now remind me who DID give out explicit names, causing "anyone with a pulse" to connect the dots? Because "anyone with a pulse" would normally only take her statement as being stonewalled by MANAGEMENT, which she has been known to complain about for years. Nobody would even be looking at her fellow organs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273007
You do know she was obviously talking about Nijisanji and the claims are about Nijisanji as a company mostly, right? The person in specific doesn't matter since she was obviously talking about the company and making accusations towards multiple people in the company which implicates them. Also no one knows who's being accused of being a bully, the point is she accused Nijisanji as a company of harassment

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273067
Then why did they even mention the contents of the document they're being gagged from mentioning? Why bring up EXACT NAMES, EXACT CLAIMS, and even that you read the document THOROUGHLY, when you weren't ever supposed to lay eyes on it, much less reveal it to over one million people?

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder what it feels like to fuck a nijisister

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273319
Rassenschande, probably

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273067
That's some 39iq logic, even for sisters. They are only "legally gagged" from releasing the document itself. It has nothing to do with its content unless the content is information protected by law, like medical records. You fucking retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70272814
For it to be defamation they need to prove that she lied, and made " a false statement" that could harm the plaintiffs reputation. If they have the evidence to prove falsity it is on them to provide it, i've yet to see anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273310
You do know her statement was a retort to the claims in the termination letter right? meaning she did not punch first, but defended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273319
You'd need a gas mask that's for sure

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273313
Retarded rrat. There isn't a single law cited that was verifiably broken. Everything Doki said in the Neopets stream are a bunch of dumb assumptions she made because she couldn't have even seen the video yet. How could she know what documents they were reading? She even walked back on it later on Twitter. They bring up what they're legally allowed to talk about as it's about them and never discussed anyone in particular who was claimed of harassment. I'm still waiting for evidence they bullied her

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273310
OK, answer the question then. Who published names? Who published the claims? Why do people even know there ARE claims?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70266993
Eliraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa urrrrr assssssssuuujujuuu, getuuuuu bakuuuuuuu hereeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273568
I'm not trying to make fun od Vox, but he said "in my opinion it was not a form of harassment" I really wanna see what that non-harassment is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273568
She said flat out that someone was texting her what they were saying, moron. She was ghosted for days, sent them a document, 2 hours later she was fired. Which document would YOU think they were reading? Obviously not the one that you sent them 2 hours before getting fired, with the claims in the document being listed explicitly in your termination notice a week prior right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273681
By all means do. Fuck him and his brain dead cult.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273425
>If they have the evidence to prove falsity it is on them to provide it,

That's clearly not how it works. Watch any defamation case to ever happen. The defense always tries to prove that they weren't lying because the defense has to prove their accusations are real. An accusation needs to be proven. Without proof, it's defamation. Ever hear of Hitchen's Razor?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70268985
A billion dollar japanese behemoth vs. A canadian coffee warehouse... sigh... sisters...

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273831
OK, remind me who made the public claim then that needs to be disproven?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273725
>She said flat out that someone was texting her what they were saying

No she didn't. She said she was being texted and never said they were writing a fucking transcript in DMs. If she did, she wouldn't have walked back on it later. What a retarded assumption

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273725
>She said flat out that someone was texting her what they were saying, moron.

nta
do you remember how that was phrased? Im trying to find out who that was

[Anonymous No.]

>>70269667
Eliraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa seggggggggggggggggggggssssssssssss

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273903
"I didn't do it" isn't a claim, it's a denial of an accusation that she later made. She made the defamatory accusation, so she needs to prove it. By your logic, someone saying they're innocent is a claim that they need to prove now. Please use logic before typing on the Internet next time

[Anonymous No.]

>>70271410
Nijiwhore seething

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273943
>If she did, she wouldn't have walked back on it later.
the document was in japanese anon. it was originally written in english for her lawyer, but then lawyer redacted things (for example the details of her medical information) and translated it before it was send to the nijiJPbranch. Doki clearly said that all communication was done between lawyers in japanese. She wrote the original, but she didnt know exactly what the redacted and translated version contained.

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273943
>>70274028
It could've been literally anybody, and with how much she was staggering and looking away from chat by her eye movements, she was clearly getting information of some kind, which she said in a panic before (correctly) shutting up and talking to her lawyer before saying something you idiot sisters would twist against her.

>>70274128
Why would you say "I didn't do it" when nobody was claiming you did in the first place?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70273319
You would be called the Columbus of 20th century for the discovery of a new continent

[Anonymous No.]

>>70274304
>she was clearly getting information of some kind
She knew that the video was about her and her accusations. That's all she could have known. She already did say a lot of things they could be used against her in the video

[Anonymous No.]

>>70274499
>That's all she could have known.
proof?

[Anonymous No.]

>>70274304
She did claim they did it and she said she'd claim it publicly later too. She even sent them a whole document detailing her accusations. Pretty hard to dismiss that

[Anonymous No.]

>>70274499
I'm sorry you have to hear it from me, sister. But some people have this thing called "friends." Friends are other human beings who have eyes, ears, fingers, and mouths with which they can absorb information, understand it, and then relay it to other humans so that they can process it and react accordingly. You are now claiming that Doki was unable to get information from a stream as it was happening despite being directly told and WITNESSING her react to information in real time. She was literally responding to comments as they were being made. I should know, I fucking watched both happen at the same time, and was one of the hundreds of people telling her to shut up and stop streaming so she could contact her lawyer before Niji does something worse .

[Anonymous No.]

>>70274600
The proof is that the video was being streamed during her stream and she only just became aware of it's existence. She also clearly didn't watch it on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>70274681
that's not proof