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Why is it ok when Phase Connect does it, but bad when Nijisanji does it?

>> No.70147898

>>70147842
They don't bully the non-nepo hire

>> No.70147903

>>70147842
Based autism

>> No.70147966

>>70147842
compatibility craziness chart, I don't think you see the same thing we see.

>> No.70148042

>>70147842
Call me when the streamers act like managers, funneling opportunities to themselves while using their powers to bully others

>> No.70148080

>>70147842
Remember kids, make one shitty inaccurate chart and it'll get posted forever.

>> No.70148136

>>70147842
Because fishman likes hiring girls from defunct companies and alot of vtubers know each other.

As far as tsunderia goes he basically just hired whoever didnt go indie.

>> No.70148150

>>70148080
what needs to be corrected. do tell

>> No.70148253

>>70147842
Time will prove Eimi was an Airi/Lia/Hime nepo hire

>> No.70148257

>>70147842
They nepo-hire, not nepo-control. Management is there for the talents and the culture is less toxic.
Real talk, getting into ANY job and expecting no nepotism at all is irrealistic nowadays. But that doesn’t hav eto result in a toxic work enviroment.

If Elira takes all her friends and debuts them under Niji, quite frankly there is notthing wrong. The problem is that according to GURRAT and most evidences we have, they forced things to go their way or no way.
That is not nepotism, it’s called corruption. That is when the line is crossed.

>> No.70148500

>>70147842
>Phase’s clique is literally just the company itself
Based

>> No.70148603

>>70147842
Am I in a timeloop or what? Didn't you just post this? And it didn't get any traction then either.
Or is OP just a retard?

>> No.70148930

>>70148253
>lia's favorite gen3: eimi
>hime's favorite gen3: eimi
>airi's favorite gen3: eimi
100%

>> No.70149011

>>70148603
Not sure about the rest, but OP is definitely retarded.

>> No.70149206

>>70147842
>Networking is nepotism!
God you niggers are retarded.

>> No.70149274

>>70147842
i don't care, i will goon all day to 10ma and panko as usual

>> No.70149317

>>70147898
fpbp

>> No.70149383

>>70147898
dyrbi

>> No.70149397

Every corp has nepotism. Niji's problem is that it lead to one sociopath hiring all her sociopath friends and trying to reenact a bitchy highschool stacy clique to compensate for being losers in their actual highschool years.
If the clique wasn't so fucking vile, it'd just be something people joke about.

>> No.70149441

>>70147842
>only 5 people without a bloodline to a Phase talent.
>4 of which just debuted, so we will likely get to connect those dots later when they slip up

>> No.70149492

>>70147842
Networking does not necessitate nepotism.
My company literally gives you a bonus if you refer someone to our company. $500/$1k if they get hired. $1k/$2k after 90 days of employment.
Nepotistic hiring is practically a non-issue unless its egregious. The real problem is nepotism in the workplace, nepotism regarding promotions or resource distribution, etc..

>> No.70149574

Because once you remove the stupid dotted lines, it's two collapsed companies being salvaged. Keep coping over your dumpster fire.

>> No.70149596

>>70148136
>As far as tsunderia goes he basically just hired whoever didnt go indie
Dizzy is the only one of them who didn't go indie between leaving Tsunderia and joining Phase though

>> No.70149854

You should focus on Lumi and the conspiracy whenever she has a vacation some chuuba graduates /terminates. The space Assassin strikes again.

>> No.70149860

if you remove the dotted lines
>Lumi & Tenma got nepo'd by Pippa
>Yuri got nepo'd by Pippa and Lia
>Hime got nepo'd by Lia
>Jelly got nepo'd by Lumi and Shiina
>Airi got nepo'd by either Lia, Uruka or Sakana himself
>Sakana is a sugar daddy who was grooming all those linked girls in their chats and playing League with them

>> No.70149866

>>70147842
>Why is it ok
Because it is fine. You want them to diversify and hire an African-American and a couple of males? You don't know who works at the warehouse and office.
>Niji
Niji harasses and shafts their talent. They aren't happy working there.

Shit threads *should* be ignored.

>> No.70150274

>>70147898
fpbp
/thread

>> No.70150599

>>70149860
These are all mostly confirmed
>>Lumi & Tenma got nepo'd by Pippa
Pippa was the 1st person hired in Phase and Sakana asked her if she knew anybody that would be interested. She gave him Tenma.
Pippa had been pushing for Lumi to go to Phase ever since they had a Phasmo collab where her, Lumi, Yuri and Lia hit it off.
>>Yuri got nepo'd by Pippa and Lia
See Lumi, but Lia was closer with Yuri than Lumi.
>>Hime got nepo'd by Lia
They let it slip last month they have known each other since pre-covid and have been in the same friend circle for years.
>>Jelly got nepo'd by Lumi and Shiina
Long time friends.
>>Airi got nepo'd by either Lia, Uruka or Sakana himself
this one is very tricky. Lia, Uruka, Airi, and Sakana all had dinners with each other in 2021 before Airi was hired and knew what vtubing was. She had no reason to be at those dinners. Either Sakana brought her along, or Lia and Uruka brought her along.
>>Sakana is a sugar daddy who was grooming all those linked girls in their chats and playing League with them
he is a savior fag

>> No.70150689

Gotta get them Tsuns

>> No.70150867

>>70147842
What people call "nepotism" on this board is literally not a problem and happens in every industry. Nepotism is only a problem when some shithead boss puts his incompetent, arrogant nephew in a management position to everyone's detriment, not when people who work in a company help their friends get hired.

>> No.70150935

>>70147842
Because it's not destructive. Phase nepotism is everyone bringing their friends to a party to have a good time and everyone getting along. Niji nepotism is people bringing their friends over to help them bully the shy kid.

>> No.70151522

Imagine thinking hiring your friends you get along with is bad

>> No.70151702

>>70150867
I didn't know Elira have so many nephew in Hanamori

>> No.70151712

>>70147842
Nasa being ex-Yumenographia is still crazy to me and also explains how she recently got in contact with bigger JP chuubas. It's also funny because she said it was a black company.

>> No.70151865

I heard it's a sad girl corpo but.its not sad as this post and the user who took time to use ms paint to create this image and post it

>> No.70152006

Every vtuber corpo has nepos.
Gamers is basically fubuki's nepogen.

>> No.70152497

>>70151712
When I see her on my recommended she's usually very low 3view, like in the 100 range. Hopefully collabing with the new JP gen will boost her.

>> No.70152512

>>70152006
And thank god for that

>> No.70152781

>>70152497
She's recently more entering mid-3view status. She's actually improved a lot considering she was MIA in 2022 because she broke her leg and MIA until May 2023 because she moved out to the rural mountains. She then got serious about streaming thanks to Muumi and went from 10k subs and 2view to 20k subs and 3view. So far her interactions with the new JPs like Pico have been pretty funny.

>> No.70153019

Jannies delete this thread!!!

>> No.70153182

>>70147842
Every corpo should have these very nice

>> No.70153272

ill say the hina pippa relation is just because there was an agreement before they debuted something like "whoever has the least CCV after a week of streaming gets a pippa boost" and hina was the lowest CCV by that time, but this doesnt explain why it was an off collab in her parents house

>> No.70153436

>>70151712
>yumenographia
>It's also funny because she said it was a black company.
anycolor is gonna anycolor no matter what their sub compàny is named

>> No.70153599

>>70148150
NTA but off the top of my head Jelly knew Eimi before PC

>> No.70153777

>>70153599
Until you provide a timestamp, this is pcg headcanon.

>> No.70153885
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70153885

>My wife and best girl Runie Ruse is just on her own
It's beautiful...

>> No.70153911

>>70153777
Jelly said it on stream some weeks ago I think

>> No.70153981

>>70153599
Eimi is a part of the Rie, Airi Lia Uruka clique

>> No.70154077

>>70153911
>>70153981
this is why I don’t add lines to them. too many conflicting.

>> No.70154208

>>70148603
I don't even know if this is supposed to be some reverse psychology shilling or just a regular anti-thread.

>> No.70154488

>>70148253

Didnt Jelly mention in one minecraftstream that she and Eimi knew eachother from music/artist stuff before?

>> No.70154767

>>70154488
Jelly doesn’t have any pull in Phase Connect she is a lowly music slave

>> No.70154877

>>70154767

Isnt her music in stuff like that music game with lights as well as doing BGM for a few other corpos?

>> No.70155028

>>70154877
She is the company music slave like how Shiina is the company art slave. Jelly had a mini meltdown in the Sakana interview about how she is being unfairly overworked with music, and he shut her down and said she is getting paid plenty and she knew in no uncertain terms she was hired to produce/edit company music.

>> No.70155063

>>70153885
She's too good for Phase to be honest.

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70155146

Please post the correct version at least, dumbass

>> No.70157017

Anon, like half of the nodes are either disconnected or linked purely because of poaching. If people are brought in from another company, they are going to know each other...
But let's talk nepotism, right? Small amounts of it are expected in a lot of industries, probably most of them. I can't speak for what I don't know about, but tech and animation/film/television in particular does a lot of it. That's what "networking" really is; growing the web.
The retardation comes not from nepotism itself, but how controlled it is. It is not a really a problem for a tech CEO to hire some people he knew from college, or for Vtubers to vouch for friends during recruitment. It IS very much a problem when that turns into special treatment/privileges, poor leadership, fraud, and an inability to pull good people from outside the network.

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70157291

>>70155146
I feel sorry for the people who try to watch her powerpoints.

>> No.70157318

>>70147842
Npotism is only bad when the result is bad

>> No.70157341

>>70157318
Pretty much

>> No.70158706

>>70155028
>Jelly had a mini meltdown in the Sakana interview about how she is being unfairly overworked with music, and he shut her down
Is this what a bit of playful banter looks like to an autist?

>> No.70159181

>>70147898
how does this rationalise nepotism? all the replies are dumb as hell.

>> No.70159305

>>70148930
Pop quiz, who's your one and only?

>> No.70160201

>>70147842
hires by former company
>pre debut Cyberlive
>Cyberlive
>Cyberlive
>Yumenographia
>Tsunderia
>Tsunderia
>Tsunderia
>Tsunderia
>Kawaii
>MyHoloTv
>Star Ring
>Amberglow
>NexStage

Sakana built a small corpo super group

>> No.70160732

>>70160201
people forget his very first fishman poach was lia
she was hired to be amaris yuri in cyberlive/cyberunity, but backed out and joined phase connect instead

mad man was poaching pre debut from his competitor. knows no chill.

>> No.70160936

>>70159181
how is the nepotism bad? you weren't getting in anyway faggot.

>> No.70160951

i am a hypocrite and support who i like for whatever i reason i want. its that simple. i just want people/thing i dont like to suffer.

>> No.70161409

>>70160936
theyre mad their tranny homos arent in

>> No.70161640

>>70158706
Spergs have a very hard time with social cues, it's one of the main symptoms of aspergers.

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>>70147842
nepo good people=good
nepo bunch of mean bitches=you get nijien/nijikr clique situation
its that simple
sure phase did an oopsie from nepo hire getting yuri but the rest of them are fine

>> No.70162747

>>70162645
>sure phase did an oopsie from nepo hire getting yuri but the rest of them are fine
considering Yuri left mostly peacefully should tell you even when the nepo hire turns sour, it still ends up being ok.

>> No.70162885

>>70147842
>why is nepotism bad
In and of itself, it isn't really. It really boils down to a simple scenario.

I need to hire someone to fill a role. Do I:
>Hire an unknown person via interviews/auditions
This is the standard hiring path. It's riskier because all you have to go on is their basic work history and little to no information about their personality.
>Hire a friend who probably can't do the job very well because I want to help them out
This is bad nepotism. You have made the entire company worse for selfish reasons. NijiEN did this.
>Hire someone that I know would be a good fit because I've worked with them before and can vouch for their qualifications?
This is good nepotism, aka networking. Phase Connect did this.

Many people see networking as no different than the bad kind of nepotism. It's "unfair" since there might have been a better candidate in the application pool, and they got passed over for a sure thing. But honestly, they have nobody to blame but themselves. Networking is simply advertising your skills. If you don't advertise yourself, you shouldn't be surprised if people don't find you.

>> No.70163029

>>70147842
They collabed once = nepo hire

>> No.70163319

>>70147842
I don't think you understand what nepotism means.

>> No.70163717

>>70147842
because phasefags love to project

>> No.70164206

>>70162885
I would agree with you but most phase talents are garbage and only got in because of bad nepotism

>> No.70164255

>>70162747
Yuri was a stupid cunt who got herself fired and she's lucky they let her go easily.

>> No.70164678

>>70153885
She's Lumi's nepo

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>>70159181
Nepotism is great for streamer corps since they are already friends and go well together in collabs.

Problems only appear if management is incompetent and some people get too much power.

>> No.70165124

>>70147842
Why is it nepotism when it isn't fubuki, mio, korone, and okayu hiring friends?
Oh, right. It isn't. You're just a faggot.

>> No.70166835

>>70164678
>they tweet each other
>bro its a nepo hire
you retards have no idea what a nepo hire is holy shit

>> No.70166906

>>70147842
keeping it in the family

>> No.70166997

>>70159181
So all family businesses are bad?

>> No.70168120

>>70147898
this

>> No.70170225

>>70147842
Because when you have a bunch of actually good like-minded people together, it creates success. When you have a bunch of shitty like-minded people who take advantage of others and create bullying culture, you get Nijisanji.

>> No.70170628

>>70153885
NexStage Project.

>> No.70170982

>>70147842
>nepotism
>was an advisor and became a talent
>got hired at the same time as someone else
>most of the lines have no explanation
incredible chart, do your English reps and look up what nepotism means

>> No.70171047

>>70164678
apparently everyone in Phase is Lumi's nepo hire she's the shadow boss of phase secretly controlling the company, fishman is just a figuredhead

>> No.70171150

>>70155028
I can never tell if people like this are severely autistic or if its just extreme bias

>> No.70171253

>>70148150
Most of the lines have no explanations and most of the ones that are explained have nothing to do with nepotism. Also when they're hiring people with small vtuber corpo experience of course a lot of those people know each other its not exactly a massive field.

>> No.70171609

>>70149860
>playing League
I thought it was Factorio tho?

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70171758

>>70153885
I made that post btw.

>> No.70172028

>>70147842
phase grew stronger with their nepotism
nijiEN grew weaker and toxic'er with their nepotism

>> No.70172093

>>70171609
way to self report that you are a newfag. Sakana started Phase so he had people to play League with he doesn't give a fuck abotu Factorio

>> No.70172229

>>70159181
>nepotism
it's not black and white you retard sister. you are hiring a known quantity over an unknown quantity if you nepohire someone competent that is.
it's shit if you hire someone who has no talent or potential simply because they are related to you.
>enna
nepohire, great singer, known quantity, low risk to flop
(before her outing herself as being a cunt)
>(you)
>(if riku was your uncle frfr)
shit at singing, can't entertain, can't dance, dull as a bitter knife

>> No.70172462

>>70159305
EIMI!!!!!

>> No.70172558

>>70147842
it's still bad, but then again, phase is a menhera/cray group. what did you expect?

>> No.70172653

>>70149854
don't do it anon, many tried before, only some unlucky few survived, now, the know better than cross the lemon whore.

>> No.70172999

>>70149860
you are wrong if you think the girls has some power of decision on the company, they can recommend someone, but sakana has the final say, if he doesn't want you, you are not getting in, e.g; sleepy.

>> No.70173003

>>70171047
This, but with about 35% less irony. Not fully unironic, just slightly less.

>> No.70173117

Scale of the business comes into play when doing nepo hires. My local pub employs their daughter as a barmaid part time. That's legit nepohire but it doesn't matter because it's a small business of 6 people. Niji isn't a small business. It's a billion dollar company listed on a stock exchange. Where nepo hiring goes bad is demonstrated by Niji. Everyone is linked to one key figure, then that key figure is involved in at the very least translating documents (if not more including direct authority over other talents), like contracts, like sponsorship deals involving other talents. That's a massive conflict of interest.
Phase can get away with it because you can't seriously expect a dude who just wants to play LoL with him, with $50K budget to have a serious recruiting campaign. Startups will always have nepo hires. Then look at the nepo hiring practices of Phase - they're spread across 4-5 influential figures including Sakana, none of which hold any authority over the other talents other than natural seniority/popularity that we know of.

>> No.70173328

>>70153272
most possibly happened cuz, management didn't know when was the next time pippa was gonna be willing to get out of her cave so they approve of the off collab, with collab embargo and everything, doubt they knew each other before hina joined.

>> No.70173387

>>70147842
Nepo hiring doesn't actually matter, and is arguably just an extension of networking (which everyone in every industry does, and how 80% of hte workforce gets work).
What matters is Conflict of Interests. If your uncle is your manager, he is probably gonna go softer or harder on you than he would any other employee, which is a conflict of interest. It's why most major corporations do not allow family members to exist on different tiers of the corporate hierarchy without some insulation between each other.
The conflict of interest is the problem, not the nepotism.

>> No.70173461

>>70153885
Sakana recognize a diamond when he sees one.

>> No.70173678

>>70147842
>Yuri was tied all of the people who mattered and was thick with all of them
>still got fire and they couldn't (or didn't) save her
jesus what did she do

>> No.70173686

>>70160732
Holy shit, Sakana-san game is brutal

>> No.70173751

>>70153885
she's a phase girl doing GFE so it's only a matter of time before she cucks her audience somehow

>> No.70173816

>>70147842
Phase hasn't made anyone attempt suicide (yet).

>> No.70173818

>>70173751
Remove "phase" from this post and it's accurate.

>> No.70173914

>>70173818
fair.

>> No.70173994

>>70173678
She had some disagreements over certain business protocol

>> No.70173997

>>70164255
she got off easy, because, unlike niji, there are no petty little bitches managing things, they cut their losses and move on.

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>>70173678
this was Yuri's social circle in Phase that she considered "her family"
>Lia, Pippa, Tenma, Uruka, Lumi, Airi

this is who Yuri still has anything to do with
>kinda Pippa

needless to say, she did something bad enough that 5/6 of them want nothing to do with her, and the only 1 who would have something to do with her (Pippa) is a notorious terrible judge of character and it is one of her biggest faults.

>> No.70174529

ok OP, tell me, wich company is currently a dumpster fire, and wich one is thriving?

>> No.70174587

>>70147898
>He didn't know pippa shit talk about the new hore all the time

>> No.70174718

>>70174476
honestly isnt Yuri really just part of the Moonshine group, which is only partially related to phase?

>> No.70175259

>>70173461
Motherscaler needs to start poaching V4Mirai.

>> No.70175333

>>70147842
Your dates are still wrong nigga.

>> No.70175548

>>70174476
Pippa and Lia were still sad for awhile after the event, Tenma got drunk and made jokes.
Allegedly both Pippa and Lia still talk to her and at least Pippa has seen on her main corpo account playing games with her, Lia I think used an alt.

>> No.70175633

>>70172093
>he doesn't give a fuck abotu Factorio
yap

>> No.70175681

>>70175333
This is chat anon, we don't get dates.... we do not get dates.

>> No.70177744

>>70175548
we have no proof of that

>> No.70178509

>>70147842
Anon fixed the Clara-Sakana link, good shit. It's not really nepo hiring if it's the CEO themselves doing the poaching.

>> No.70178620

>>70153885
rrat from friendcord is that lumi bragged about poaching her from nexstage

>> No.70178694

>>70155146
AH FUCK

>> No.70178806

Eliras neophires are as talentless hacks as herself and horrible people too.
Phase's "nepohires" are actually good entertainers and people.

>> No.70178979

>>70178620
Lumi has a false sense of importance. She thinks she got Pippa and Lia their jobs in Phase Connect, not the other ways around.

>> No.70179062

>>70178979
i don't disagree, but if the rrat is to be believed, that's what lumi did

>> No.70179103

>>70178979
>>70178620
my favorite is the time lumi tried to claim she got both shiina and remi hired in phase.

the only problem with that is both shiina and remi were hired by phase connect a full 4 months before her

>> No.70179234

>>70178620
huh, never paid attention to them, but they lost their witch. sucks for them i guess.
(she sounds semi familiar but shes not Runie, so not sure where im connecting the voice to)

>> No.70179351

>>70147898
This, they all like each other or at least are professional with one another.

>> No.70179383

>>70179234
It was the elf girl who left like 4 days after debut with a male. The witch is in VNU as Echo.

>> No.70179546

>>70179103
>>70178979
lumi is entering "anny invented everything" territory

>> No.70179570

>>70179351
shut the fuck up tripfag

>> No.70179674

>>70179570
die mad

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>>70174587
>pippa shit talk about the new hore
Be less brown.

>> No.70181350

>>70179674
no u

>> No.70182883

>>70179103
>my favorite is the time lumi tried to claim she got both shiina and remi hired in phase.
timestamp?

>> No.70184358

>>70178979
One rrat I heard is lumi's parents invested in phase connect like rie.

>> No.70184674

>>70184358
so which large supa do you think was Lumis parents account?

>> No.70184805

Ivan go to bed.

>> No.70185995

>>70182883
jamie pull up the twitch vod from september 2022

>> No.70190477

>>70147842
Do you want to hire people you don't know anything about and they turn out to be a timed nuke?

>> No.70193753

>>70147842
Non-nepo hires only truly work for a first wave just starting out. Even that can still fuck up, but getting a variety is good for starting out and hitting different people. Every gen after that being a nepo hire is fine.

Now if your first gen is all nepos related to management then you've got huge problems from the get-go

>> No.70194381

>>70151712
Wait, is Nasa the girl that Shigure Ui got when Subaru and Maimoto did the Yumenographia collab?

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