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70127706 No.70127706 [Reply] [Original]

>"h-hate the company, not the livers! they are innocent!" didn't work
>"Selen is a bipolar LIAR" didn't work
>#PositiveNijisanjiSpam didn't work
>"Selen is the attacker guise trust me she is SUING them!" didn't work
>cope mental gymnastics rentry didn't work
>resort to just making a hit list of anyone who even VAGUELY said something good about Doki once (for harassing and doxxing purposes)
(You are here)

>> No.70127818

>>70127706
>D-Despite claiming she doesn't care, she still flaunting her rightful play button, THAT'S PETTY

>> No.70127837

This is disingenuous because the same people saying this attack members who leave.
They are just corporate shills pure and simple

>> No.70127858

>>70127818
>She kept her old fan name, meaning she stole the Dragoons from Nijisanji

>> No.70127897

>>70127858
>She's using the trophy emoji again NO NO NO NO NO YOU CAN'T DO THAT AAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>> No.70127905

>>70127706
>a hit list of anyone who even VAGUELY said something good about Doki once
god damn I actually can't believe this is real
women rule they should vote

>> No.70127956

>>70127818
Yeah I know your oshi doesn't have their own play button anon. You don't need to attack the bird for that. Just keep licking riku's dirty ass, he might one day ordered one play button to your oshi.

Keep struggling sister

>> No.70128026

Even if everything the said was true, I don't care. I hate Nijisanji. I hate the livers. They are bad at their job and offer a shit product. Their fans are all subhuman Twitter freaks. I've never been a huge selen fan but I'm grateful that she baited them into having a mask off moment, because if they go down fast enough the risk of collateral damage will hopefully be minimal.

>> No.70128042

>>70127706
>"Her fans cancelled Uki for being racist despite the fact that he's right about white peepo! She's being covered and supported by dogwhistling naaaazis! She's not disowning any of that so she and her fanbase are aaaaalt-riiiight!"

>> No.70128116

>>70127905
I had flashbacks to Roman Proscriptions when that rentry dropped, the nijisisters know how to party it up.

>> No.70128190

>>70127706
I don't care but she's just as bad and was harassing her co-workers. All Nijis are trash humans, past and present. You have to show me proof that this isn't the case. You have to also show me proof that she didn't do anything that can ever be construed as using the situation to her own advantage. It's am impossible task and the whole situation leaves a bad taste in the mouth. Not just her an niji talents, but most EN talents, indies and corpos that got involved and tried to get attention from it.

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70128203

She got out of the company of livers, I guess we can say that she's an unaliver

>> No.70128249

>>70128190
>I don't care but

>> No.70128285

>>70127905
It's not a hit list, it's a block list. It's not uncommon, and people are blowing it out of proportion. Let them block people so they don't have to see hate comments and move on. Anything else like making new accounts to reply to them with zingers just validates their claims of undue harassment.

>> No.70128310

>>70127706
keep it up. I can't wait til all you smug pieces of shit are crying yourselves to sleep when she either retires from stress in a year, or attempt #3 is successful when she loses yet another apex tournament

>> No.70128322

>>70127706
>starts her own vtuber agency and mogs what's left of NijiEN
i give it a year

>> No.70128329

>>70128249
I don't care.
>no, you can't form an opinion if you actually do not care at all
I get it. You're going through your pedant phase.

>> No.70128444

why do the jannies allow 769764 pro-Doki threads, but instantly remove any anti-Selen ones? biased much?

>> No.70128467

>>70127956
Anon... He's saying that's what the sisters would say to cope, hence the greentext and following the same format as OP.

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>>70128444

>> No.70128544

>>70127956
Cunt that's what the sisters were saying. They're adding another failed cope from the sisters.
The fucking stutter at the start didn't clue you in that they were being facetious?

>> No.70128614 [DELETED] 

>>70128190
>People are mocking Niji over the bullying Niji stated was happening
>>WELL ACKSHUALLY CONJECTURE CONJECTURE DISPROVE MY CONJECTURE

I don't care but fucking kill yourself because actually I do care because you're a fuckwit.

>> No.70128616

>>70128329
This sounds suspiciously like someone who cares. >>70128444
Talking about Selen is PL stuff. obviously a no-no.

>> No.70128639

>>70127956
Based retard

>> No.70128723

>>70128285
Except they have a proven track record of harassment and doxxing, which they did to Zaion.

>> No.70128732

>>70128285
Found the nijisis.
Obviously it's not a real "hit list", but block lists are incredibly toxic. You're just enclosing yourself around a tight circle made of yesmen and people who agree with you. Doing this is admitting weakness, you don't actually want to know the truth but just stick to what you want to *think* is true, without having it questioned or ever having to defend it.

>> No.70128750

>>70128190
>You have to show me proof that this isn't the case.
What is with nijisisters not understanding "burden of proof"? It's like the angle changes slightly but the logical fallacies stay the same. Is this the same person from those "Selen is a lying BPD whore" threads? Can I just replay my bit where I call you a rainbow haired fat ugly dyke with mutilated genitals and now the burden of proof is on you to prove that you aren't?

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>>70128285
The "hit list" was also openly accusing someone of an actual crime (Revenge Porn); which making art of Elira doesn't fall under. But it opens up the list maker(s) up for legal liability.

>> No.70129096

>>70129000
The funniest shit is there's art of Doki in roughly the same situation (arguably worse since it doesn't seem consensual.) but you don't see them complaining about that... (though admittedly, that art seems to be made out from love)

>> No.70129953

>>70128285
Why does it have doxxing in that list then?

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>>70128285
do all sisters share the same braincell or just coordinate the same response in your discord?

>> No.70130344

>>70127956
Apparently kuroniggi could give youtube $200 to buy extra play buttons for each of their livers. Youtube allows you to buy extra ones for cases where multiple people are responsible for a channel's content and would each like a play button. Except Kuriniggi decided not to do that. They keep all the play buttons for themselves and refuse to acknowledge the livers efforts. Whether it's paying for their own events to create content for their audiences and growing the kuriniggi brand, or just being entertaining and earning a million fans.
If you care about any of the livers, or are even just sympathetic towards humans that must do evil to thrive in a Japanese Black Company, you will want them to get free as soon as possible.

>> No.70130345

>>70127706
ngl, i can kinda see why nijisisters were spamming smug purple dragon image with inflammatory opinion now, it feels really good to be on the other side

>> No.70130400

>>70128732
Just let them do it and be on their way. Stop being obnoxious children demanding a right to harass people. They reap what they sow, and your oshi reaps what you sow.
>>70129000
You can keep on trying to make it something more than it is. But at the end of the day you're a loser wasting your time. Like what are you going to do? Use new accounts to make sure they read your criticism?
>oh ah I can't believe they shared a list to block drama react streamers, and it's definitely legal bla bla bla bla
And?
>>70129953
>>70130198
>bla bla bla bla bla
Good talk guys.

>> No.70130459

>>70128042
Kek
Alt-right is such a nonsense meme made up by leftists that went drunk driving towards karl marx, missed his house, and just kept chasing the horizon.
Even old liberals seem far right to them. The average zoomertard thinks CNN is center-right.

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>>70130400

>> No.70130530

>>70130482
Do you think she retains that smug smile even when you cum on her face

>> No.70130583

>>70130530
100%

>> No.70130673

>>70130400
>They reap what they sow, and your oshi reaps what you sow.
Wanna remind me exactly what she's sown? Can you give me a direct link to anything she's publicly put out that would be problematic?

>> No.70130677

>>70130530
She speedruns that shit better than your loose oshi. My seed belongs to her, and she knows it.

>> No.70130737

>>70130673
she sowed good will throughout the vtuber community for years and now she's reaping the benefits in her extremely successful indie career, making more money than the entire branch combined.

>> No.70130800

>>70127818
I'll say it again here. Every fucking vtuber, youtuber, lewdtuber, pipetuber posts their milestone. It's the equivalent of a Facebook post, like congrats but zzz. The only reason why people are salty has nothing to do with Doki. Give me one good reason why Riku prevents his talent from having them?

>> No.70130823

>>70130344
This makes the playbutton issue double fucked.
It just goes to show they don't think of the livers as people who have earnt anything

>> No.70130848

>>70130400
no one's demanding a right to harass people KEK
We're mocking them in our own little corners of the internet and it's been very apparent that they come to us to get mad

>> No.70130863

>>70130823
They don't want their talents having positive affirmations so their brain wash bullshit about being useless work harder fits in better. Approval only comes from above in the family.

>> No.70130900

i hope Elira kills herself soon

>> No.70130934

>>70127818
Right, let’s start to support Niji livers. For example asking Riku thise buttons back. Or to stop shadow suspensions for anything that is not sucking CEO’s dicks. Or to use the official account for communications and not larp as them.

What? You want us to block everyone who disagree with you, not follow the livers when streaming to seethe /here/, and harrass people who don’t do the same to death?

Describe me what part of this menhera behaviour helps your oshi, please. You are not even fans, you are an hate mob because your mental disorder tells you that’s popular.

Get help. Seriously.

>> No.70131053

>>70127706
feels like an all out war doesnt it?

>> No.70131105

>>70127956
>>70130934
Based retards

>> No.70131448

>>70127706
>resort to just making a hit list of anyone who even VAGUELY said something good about Doki once (for harassing and doxxing purposes)
isn't it funny that this happened just a week after the livers mentioned that artists are awesome. Fucking cartoonishly dumb and evil company and fandom.

>> No.70131526

>>70128285
why dont you all put your own names on a list so we can block you in return, seems fair, right?

>> No.70131626

>>70130344
They wont even let you pay for one yourself, it goes beyond merely being too cheap to pay the $200, they genuinely dont want the livers to have them

>> No.70131715

>>70130400
>Stop being obnoxious children demanding a right to harass people
But people's complaint is... the ability to use this list to harass people, paired with the nijifags history of going out of their way to harass people. Did you drink your retard juice today?

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>>70127706
the list thing is so fucking funny man

Nijifags with the middleschool playground mentality

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>>70130863
What working for nijisanji does to a motherfucker

>> No.70131852

>>70127706
>>70127818
>>70127858
>>70127897
KEK'd
keep it up, soldiers.

>> No.70131898

The funniest shit was people constantly misspelling or misunderstanding what BPD meant and screaming about bipolar people.

>> No.70131917
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70131917

>IDK WHO BUT THEY GOT FOLLOWERS

>> No.70131946

>>70127706
don't forget how they've tried to cancel Filian and got shat on by everyone

>> No.70132022

>>70130400
>Your oshi reaps what you sow
In that case you sisters are gonna get all of NijiEN terminated with your "Grassroots" Publicity stunts

>> No.70132052

>>70127706
On a side note Doki needs an upgraded design her current one looks so dated

>> No.70132230

>>70131898
I liked the fact that their initial insult was amber bird which actually had some teeth but that caused infighting because guess who the sisters also supported so they settled on dookiebird kek

>> No.70132452

>>70127706
>making a hit list of anyone who even VAGUELY said something good about Doki

HITLIST IS LITERALLY FAKE PSYOP the reason it lists ALL dramanigs is to have them continue push manufactured nijidogpiling, to continue farming the outrage. One of those dramalosers is clearly the author as they make money off of it literally.

Youre literally living in alt reality.

>> No.70132483

>>70131838
Niji must be a fucking MISERABLE place that every single ex-livers always do this kind of message afterwards lmao, what happened to "Nijisanji Family"???

>> No.70132530

>>70132452
distilled copium

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>>70132452
no, it was confirmed made by sisters weeks ago until some of them leaked it here

>> No.70132753

>>70132483
Has ANYONE left Nijisanji in good terms? Literally one single person?

>> No.70132797

>>70132483
the nijisanji family is more like the mob family

>> No.70132818

>>70130583
>Fuck me like Nijisanji fucked me, pussy

>> No.70132857

Bros we need to save Scarle

>> No.70132884

>>70132753
Kyo? Seems to be still in with the clique and actively involved with future astroturf campaigns

>> No.70132976

>>70132683
doesnt sound like a "hitlist" lmao.

>> No.70133011

>>70132483
every single time they come out with a coordinated message like that you know something fucked up happened behind the scenes

>> No.70133213

>>70127706
I don't care about Doki, her model is shit, I will not watch her, I'm going to continue to not commit to not being able to sit through an entire stream and maybe shitpost about her by saying false allegations or posting fetish art of her

>> No.70133246

>>70132976
Not a hit list but a very retarded list. Look like made by some loser in high school.

>> No.70133286

>>70133213
That's all we ask, anon. Unironically, that's fine. Anything's better than this bullshit the sister's trying to do.
...Especially the fetish art. I need to get back on skeb.

>> No.70133353

>>70127706
Sisters getting mad about the play button tweet is the saddest thing ever. Anycolor has ruined their brains.

>> No.70133462

>>70132884
Aethel has teased plenty of times all the awful shit about Niji that Kyo tells him in private.

>> No.70133466

>>70128042
remember when pikamee was alt-right because she played the wizard game?

>> No.70133766

>>70133246
funny thinking that some loser in high school can help dramachannels make money.

>> No.70133770

>>70132683
Of fucking course they ran crying to Mr NijiShill

>> No.70133843

>>70133466
You mean the game she never played

>> No.70133868

>>70127706
I don't get why they can't just...move on. If they stopped obsessing over her and just started streaming like normal, things would largely be fine for all of them except Elira

>> No.70134013

>>70131917
i laughed so hard at that one

>ohnoes, they GOTTA be bad, let's get 'em, sisters~!

>> No.70134065

>>70127706
>>"h-hate the company, not the livers! they are innocent!" didn't work
lmao not even Millie thought highly of that statement

>> No.70134084

>>70132976
the initial reasoning is not that bad, but of course, these things always go in the wrong direction, usually the most stupid one

>> No.70134091

>>70133868
Because of humiliation. No matter how things proceed, her superiority will forever hang over their heads as a reminder of how they fucked up.

>> No.70134366

>>70127706
>Selen is a bipolar LIAR
It stopped at that part and everyone knows this to be true. If by "didn't work" you mean it didn't change the mind of anyone here then duh? You guys are completely brainwashed.

>> No.70134414

dookiebird is a turd

>> No.70134450

>>70128732
>You're just enclosing yourself around a tight circle made of yesmen and people who agree with you
Like this board?

>> No.70134499

>>70134450
>I know you are but what am I

>> No.70134538

>>70132452
Sisters have been crying foul about the whole thing from the get go. I have been accused ot manufacturing the doxcord wholesale

>> No.70134585

>>70134499
This is literally a tumblr hugbox with jannies keeping you safe.

>> No.70134623

>>70134450
>Answer an entire argument with no u.
>Maximum projecting copium.
>Hates board, still shitposts in it.

>> No.70134641

>>70127706
I'm gonna sound like a sister but man this list shouldn't have left their hugbox(doxxsite), problem is that now after all Selen debacle every dramatuber knows that site exists and uses it as content. Consequences of all this drama that all walls of PL/current vtuber are now broken and every thread quality has gone to shit when people just mention not(Name of vtuber) and people just funnel to that site to find their PLs. But yeah that list reminded me of Hogwarts legacy situation when people made lists of vtubers who streamed/played that game

>> No.70134658

>>70130800
If you work for a company and it gets a award, it obviously won't go to you.
If Tesla gets an award for best car of the year it would be absurd for the janitor to demand it so he can keep it at home

>> No.70134690

>>70134585
The nijijannies that nuke every rrat threat since one broke containment for being too believable, you mean?

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>>70134450
>comes to board that doesn't have same ideals (cocksucking major corporations at the expense of its slave employees)
>shocked that people don't join you fellating Vox and bullying a person you claim is mentally ill
>surprisedpikachu.jpg

>> No.70134733

>>70134538
I have also had several sisters claim to me, that the Hit-list was a false-flag, made by the enemies of Nijisanji. I guess they finally realized how badly it backfired, and are trying to dodge responsibility, by saying someone else did it.

Who the fuck but the sisters have an interest in making hitlists on the enemies of Nijisanji. They are so deranged it is making me laugh. Do they know this is like blood in the water for dramafags?

>> No.70134747

>>70134641
You don’t sound like one, that is a sound argument. But you see, these are not fans. They don’t go ask Riku for their oshi buttons. They are fine with management larping as their livers.

Bet they doxxed the list themselves hoping someone would agree with them. That’s the retard mentality they live in.

>> No.70134750

>>70134450
you're free to shitpost here. There are pro niji threads and anti niji threads. Just because your opinion is unpopular does mean /here/ is full of yes men. It could be that your opinion is wrong and you're a fucking retard
>but the Gurrat came from here
Bitch please. That was fanfiction that your side willed into reality by collectively shitting their pants and giving it credibility.

>> No.70134754

>>70134658
They don't work for the company. Contractors, remember? They don't even get a salary.

>> No.70134755

>>70134623
You want me to leave so that you all can have a nice homogenous opinion? I guess that is one way to prove the point that you are collection of autistic sheep and black kettles.

>> No.70134776

>>70134641
No, it's fine. It means that Nijisanji, through their completely unavoidable and unquenchable thirst for clout, generated drama so huge that nobody could properly avoid it.
Meaning Nijisanji ruined vtubing for everyone that cared.
Thanks, Nijisanji!

>> No.70134827

>>70134750
>>70134712
>>70134623
>>70134499
>hugbox scrambles to distract from the fact that they called someone else a hugbox
Absolutely pathetic.

>> No.70134839

>>70130344
It's actually $100 per button so it's cheaper then what you think. Riku is just that greedy.

>> No.70134849

>>70128329
It sounds like you're still in one, to me.

>> No.70134854

>>70134450
and yet barely anyone shits on the nijiEN thread
curious

>> No.70134859

>>70134755
You can do whatever the fuck you want as long as you're not harassing people on the internet like the sisters. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you here.

>> No.70134898

>>70128203
Fuck you carlos.

>> No.70134909

>>70128444
>why don't the police let me shit on the floor in public?

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>>70134827
>literally nobody telling you you're wrong
We're telling you to get the fuck out if you don't want to read it, moron.

>> No.70134961

>>70128026
Compared to dokis fleshwhore and dramatuber fans?

>> No.70134985

>>70127706
Usually you would make some additional points after (you are here)

>> No.70135010

>>70134747
They are just like sport fans. Sad tribalfags being sycophants of the associated club, as it forms their whole identity / self-worth / community. Low tier individuals who are insecure, and need that thing which is bigger than themselves, to feel confident in their self-worth. This is why they abandon individual decency for toxic mob-mentality. Outsource your sense of worth to the group.

>> No.70135011

>>70134854
Ask him which threads get spammed with monkey gore and torture because it sure as hell arent the nijisanji threads

>> No.70135071

>>70134450
I dunno I see plenty of arguing in here.

>> No.70135118

>Disagreeing with me means that you're a hugbox!
No, AGREEING with you uncontested is what would make it a hugbox. Healthy debate is the tool of those that want to arrive at the truth of things. By refusing to engage with and accept arguments on their merits, and building a tangible counterargument, you reveal your inability to see reality as it is.
Every single time I've responded to a sister, I have done so on the basis of facts and logic, using information accessible to both sides. Yet all NDF is willing to do is play games with shadow puppets, false arguments, intentional misrepresentation of information, and their personal favorite: running away and crying when losing, like a child that has been told they have to eat vegetables.
Children are not allowed on this website.

>> No.70135185

>>70134961
How many people have they bullied to the point of either taking their own life, or had their career destroyed, sister?
Hell, how many ex-Nijisanji have ANY good things to say about the company? Every single one has absolutely despised that trashfire. Except for maybe Kyo, since he was likely complicit.

>> No.70135186

>>70134961
They are 100% better than those femcels.

>> No.70135215

>>70131838
>>70132483
Well, that particular dumb bitch wanted clot and hype, abandoned her small and stall but comfy branch wo drama to fucking EN cesspool.

>> No.70135227

>>70134658
Hololive sends their chuubas the play buttons.
They even payed the extra hundred bucks to get two for Fuwamoco so both could get one.

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the way east asians argue online (psychopathy) is woefully ineffective on 4chan (autists)
kind of hilarious

>> No.70135288

>>70134658
The company is not the one getting the award, you fucking retard. Imagine defending Anycolor not sending the fucking play buttons. Holy shit.

>> No.70135292

>>70135215
>branch without drama

Sister, there are no branches without drama in Nijisanji. Hana had to fucking neuter herself to keep safe from the crab mentality over there in ID. And she ended up getting a nice boyfriend and actual friends too wi-
...Oh, that's why you hate her, huh?

>> No.70135293

>>70128310
The niji cope is so entertaining I love watching you fucks flounder

>> No.70135331

it's funny that sisters use the same tactics as the wumao

>> No.70135340

>>70135292 (me)
I'm fucking tired and worded badly. Hana neutered herself, Mika got the boyfriend.

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70135354

>Reminder that Millie once tried to downplay Selen's accusations.
>Reminder that she's still seething at Doki
>Reminder that she's trying to drag her down at any possible chance.

>> No.70135369

>>70130400
You can’t seriously be this retarded LOL

>> No.70135379

>>70127706
I dropped Doki because she's doing male collabs now
It's a shame her streams since coming back were really fun

>> No.70135449

>>70135354
That's not millie though. It's just a dumb sister who's been a piece of shit since at least Zaion's termination. Also the same cocksucker to head the reentry hitlist.
Also she's too fucking stupid to understand the difference between playful banter and outright malice. Big surprise.

>> No.70135488

>>70135379
Are the sisters just looping now back to unicorn baiting? On the fucking Apex player?

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>>70135354

>> No.70135540

>>70135449
People do have been really insisting that's her alt, tho'.

>> No.70135542

We are literally asking the company to give PRIZES to the livers. We are literally defending the organs in this discussion.

And you still attack us. That tells me all I need to know where your priorities are, Nijisis. You are the only true dramafags here.

>> No.70135552

>>70135488
No sisters wouldn't rely on unicorns like that

>> No.70135559

>>70133462
Kyo is the snake of snakes. A true grifter. He’ll with whatever gives him the most clout

>> No.70135591

>>70135379
>Expecting the unicorns to defend maledom Niji.
Getting desperate here, sis.

>> No.70135596

>>70135185
>How many people have they bullied to the point of either taking their own life
This is the first time hearing fans were the ones that drove dookie to suicide. How did the fans even get close enough to bully her? Can't she just block them?

>> No.70135597

>>70135488
The sisters rely heavily on successful males, and unicorns hate the male streamers. So the two do not mix well.

>> No.70135598

>>70135552
>No sisters wouldn't rely on unicorns like that
Anon don't try to apply logic to nijisisters. They don't work under logic. They work under pure retardataion and eastasian sensibilities FOR SOME REASON.

>> No.70135600

>>70135559
>A dishonest man, you can always trust to be dishonest

>> No.70135624

>>70134733
that they supported it for 2 weeks on doxsite and in discords and are arguing on twitter its fine but as soon as they got any blowback it magically became a false flag

>> No.70135674

>>70135331
That's because a good portion of them are the wumao.
Nijisanji have retardedly fostered a fanbase consisting of the worst media fangroups from the East and the West. It's why their defenders have this bizarre proclivity to employ an incompatible combination of Eastern zerg rush psychopathy and Western virtue-signalling/word games in their attempts to shut down criticism.

>> No.70135775

>>70128285
>Hate comments
like "I will be having a sale as I wish to clear my Niji stock" or "I will no longer be drawing niji art" There's names and accounts on that list that have posted the most benign inoffensive shit. Then you lot posted a link to the HYTE CEO, not the HYTE company in the list. And you're going to say with a straight face that it's not a hit list.
RUMAO.
/here/ might be filled with weirdos and schizos but you lot are a different breed. Please don't ever have children.

>> No.70135778

>>70135596
You can move the goalposts all you want, but it won't matter. The nijifans DID drive Aloe to suicide, and nearly drove Sayu there as well after doxxing and harassing them for months during each of their times in the "spotlight." The Sayu harassment never fucking stopped, too, even a year later.

>> No.70135841

>>70135778
>The Sayu harassment never fucking stopped, too, even a year later.
Who said it has stopped? You should check the comments that are still getting deleted on her streams.

>> No.70135905

>>70135778
Correct. I watched it from the sidelines, counting myself lucky it wasn't my oshi in their crosshairs. And happy I am not involved with their fandom. These internet mobs are both cowardly and dangerous. Glad to see she is also getting some vindication through all this.

>> No.70136030

>>70135674
Parasocial sociopaths (aka, most eastasians on the internet) do have a tendency to stick together like a cult.

It's fucking bizarre.

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I still don't get why /vt/ wants me to hate Selen and every time I ask this question nobody provides me an answer
Why would I hate Selen/Dokibird?

>> No.70136130

>>70135245
My autism was granted by the Emperah himself to protect my mind from jewish and chink corruption.

>> No.70136155

>>70135775
Not a hitlist by the way
>(doxxed vox's pl on x please report their tweet if you can)
>(in support of livers, later on said he's disappointed in niji?)
>(accuses vox and elira of holding back laughter)
>(graduating but interacts with khyo and false, BARELY but still)
>(will not support niji anymore)
>(doesn't want to draw anymore but on the fence, wants their oshi out of niji)
And my personal favorite
>(if anybody remembers that one anon art on nyfco where vox/ike/elira were reading scripts with doki/sln on the floor and a suit in the background like some cultshit was happening, this is your guy)
Sisters admitting they're on the doxsite

>> No.70136180

>>70135292
>Hana had to fucking neuter herself to keep safe from the crab mentality over there in ID
Nice cope. Too bad it's all her fault due to retardation, mental issues and overall "yes girl" to any toxic surroundings.
>And she ended up getting a nice boyfriend and actual friends too wi-
Mika? Boyfriend - that actual fat faggot? "Friends" like happe shitsanji family?

>> No.70136256

>70127706
>"h-hate the company, not the livers! they are innocent!" didn't work
Was that even the case? Niji stans seem to REALLY love their abusive company. Closest I've seen is "Support the livers! Positive thoughts only! (and sweep the actions of the company under the rug)"

>> No.70136272

>>70136113
According to them, didn’t finish the job.

East is a complete schizo place when talking of mental health, never forget they expect you to gently put your shoes aside before jumping.

>> No.70136338

>>70136256
It was closer to:
>NOOOO you can't boycott the livers!!! You must ONLY protest the company through things that can't hurt their bottom line!!

>> No.70136417

>>70136256
>Hate the company, not the livers.
>Board asks Riku to pay the livers the buttons they earned.
>You are a board of haters and yesman, doki is a turd.

I know people with dementia who make more sense than these.

>> No.70136475

a good liver is "dead" liver

>> No.70136495

>>70136155
>>(doesn't want to draw anymore but on the fence, wants their oshi out of niji)
Don't forget
>Called Niji a loser (posts both his old defunct account and follows him to his new one)
>>70136180
She seems happy now with him, and that's all you can hope for. Just because you wouldn't date him doesn't mean they're not happier without the company, anon.

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>>70135674
>Nijisanji have retardedly fostered a fanbase consisting of the worst media fangroups from the East and the West. It's why their defenders have this bizarre proclivity to employ an incompatible combination of Eastern zerg rush psychopathy and Western virtue-signalling/word games in their attempts to shut down criticism.
Both nijisanji and hololive are the same in those terms.
Don't you glance over the fact /vt/ is heavily censored by jannies and hundreds of threads and posts are deleted if they would harm hololive/phase/idol.
e.g. Rushia's latest psycho episode, Suisei's male idol boyfriend, Riro's termination had many people permabanned for making threads about it, Plappa's plappening had jannies working overdrive to delete hundreds of poats a minute.
Criticism of these companies or threads about their yabs are always met with floods of posts claiming them to be insidious falseflags by schizos or large undercover shitposters for hire. Always this victim and persecution complex.
Not to mention /vt/ exists in a bubble with the most trigger happy power tripping mods and jannies in the entire site that shaped this board into reddit-lite.
Vtuber threads on other boards are met with ridicule and mockery.

People like you try their hardest to deny vtuber fans are their own microcosm and share very similar mindsets across the board.

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>>70135227
>two play buttons for the twins that share a channel
that's pretty cute honestly.

>> No.70136645

>>70128285
Aiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii, the truth hurts meeeee... let's block them all sisters...

>> No.70136682

>>70136514
>Both nijisanji and hololive are the same in those terms.
HAHAHAHAHA!
No.

Also, of all of those things, only the Riro one is true. The jannies are lazy faggots that can't even moderate roomate posting, they would never (and have never) "delted hundreds of posts a minute."

People like youy try their hardest to act like this parasocial toxic sociopathy is normal or "a mindset".

It really fucking isn't and you should stop being a fucking delirious schizo easteasian nijisister. Its just fucking sad.

>> No.70136721

>>70127956
retard

>> No.70136729

>>70135245
I remember some article about how Ace Attorney in the west is recognizable as a "One Good Man takes on corrupt system and wins" kind of fantasy story, but there's an extra layer of fantasy in the east because the One Good Man specifically cares about the actual truth in the face of social convention. I always assumed it was kind of an overblown puff piece, because isn't that exactly why it's loved in the west too? But seeing how completely unrelated to basic reality the sisters' narratives are, and how they seem completely baffled when someone does not automatically believe them, has made me understand how a lot of what I assumed was a cartoonish exaggeration of a social dynamic was actually just the real social dynamic happening to cartoon characters. This and the piano guy.

>> No.70136766

Dealing with sisters is too easy these days. Should I give them some real anti-Doki ammo? It's pretty much a nothingburger compared to all the anti-niji shit we have now and I can guarantee you they'll spin it so badly it'll end up backfiring

>> No.70136840

>>70135540
Retards are everywhere anon

>> No.70136845

>>70128732
>Obviously it's not a real "hit list"
It is. It's a hit list with plausible deniability.

>> No.70136889

>>70130400
>Stop being obnoxious children demanding a right to harass people.
Sister, you are LITERALLY defending people compiling a list for harassment purposes here. Take a good look in the mirror and grow as a person.

>> No.70136939

>>70136495
>She seems happy now with him, and that's all you can hope for. Just because you wouldn't date him doesn't mean they're not happier without the company, anon.
Oh i get it, you are optimist anon, good for you.

>> No.70136987

>>70136514
>The Sister reveals the full extent of its delusions.
What jannies are you even blathering about?

>> No.70137043

>>70128190
>You have to show me proof that this isn't the case.
The burden of proof is on you, dumb nigger.

>> No.70137314

>>70134450
This board doesn't have updoot or downdoots so you can't filter an opinion you dislike. If you don't like an opinion, you have to actually engage with it and prove them wrong. That is the beauty of this website. There's no names, barely any rules other than "don't legally fuck us", and every post is treated equally.

It should be a wake up call for you if in a corner of the internet where free speech is totally unrelguated and everybody is anonymous, that the consensus is you're wrong. It you weren't underage, it might prompt some genuine self-reflection.

>> No.70137497

>>70137043
They think they all lawyers now that YouTuber lawyers are on their side for drama.

>> No.70137510

>>70131917
I love this fucking bear.

>> No.70137555

>>70137497
Sister, your reading comprehension...

>> No.70137593

>>70132452
>>70133766
Can you stupid niggers stop projecting for five seconds? This is just embarrassing.

>> No.70137688

>>70127706
>>resort to just making a hit list of anyone who even VAGUELY said something good about Doki once (for harassing and doxxing purposes)
This was a false flag made by dookie bird fans who are desperate to keep their little 'drama' going at any cost because pretending to be internet crusaders is the only value they have in their pathetic lives. None of them ever cared about selen/doki they just want to tear niji down to make themselves feel better about their own inadequacies. That's why they are so vicious when attacking innocent livers because it's all a projection of how they truly feel about themselves even if they lack the self awarness or the integrity to admit to it. All these people are losers who can't let go of the one thing they have that makes them feel important. Honestly I feel kinda bad for them.

>> No.70137796

>>70137688
Prove it was a false flag when all evidence suggests it originated and was circulated from nyfco and nijisister discords.

>> No.70137802

>>70137314
even when you have solid proof beyond for your argument some people just will not give up their narrative, even if it's about pointless nonsense. it's /v/, so your mileage may vary, but i've been in enough Fallout threads to know that specific people, especially those who've decided to worship companies blindly, will just not accept any evidence of wrongdoing or incompetence from the side they've hitched themselves too.

>> No.70137862

>>70137688
ErirrrrAaaaa get yoru assu backu here. am not feeneshed with you yet

>> No.70137886

>>70137688
No we want to tear down Niji because it tears up our oshis and spits them out broken. Fuck off with your "innocent livers" bullshit. If you want to prove us wrong, go ahead and list some niji members who recently quit and WEREN'T completely destroyed mentally. Other than Kyo, who likely was fleeing to avoid his own responsibilities, I'd love to see if you could even name a single other one.
>inb4 if they left then clearly they were the problem

>> No.70137951

>>70137314
>where free speech is totally unrelguated and everybody is anonymous
Kill yourself.

>> No.70137997

>>70137951
See, now you get it!

>> No.70137998

>>70137688
>false flag
If fucking retarded fujos could be counted as someting relevant - maybe lol.
But you are less than NPCs.

>> No.70138019

>>70136113
>why /vt/ wants me to hate Selen
Not /vt/, those are butthurt chink femcels from nyfco and discord.

>> No.70138107

>>70134658
it does nigger, this is how i know you have never worked on anything successful in your life, if you sell well or make milestones most companies will give you some kind of plaque, theres even companies that recognize 1st 2nd and 3rd places in production and award thropies or plaques to the workers, i got one by selling 67k galons of paint, ranked second on production, hololive does it and the other agencies too so whats the excuse nijinigger? youtube can send you multiple play buttons btw is not just one, doki is about to order a second one and name it as anything chat votes for charity btw, is gonna be auctioned.

>> No.70138170

>>70136639
yup, you can personalize the name on the button so yeah, is not the channel name in the button and is their own individual name on it

>> No.70138186

>>70134658
It is more than that. It is a neat proof that all of them are playing a role and they get coached to play the role.

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>>70137688
a sister already spilled the beans confirming you subhumans made it

>> No.70138451

>>70134658
well yeah, if you wanna put it that way, the company gets the award, but in almost all cases, the company will also recognize your significant contribution to getting that award. that's by either giving you a cash incentive, or a token, or a plaque or smth... which is essentially what a youtube play button is, no?

>> No.70138482

>>70137951
Now call me a stupid fucking nigger next and you'll have understood the assignment.

>> No.70138527

>>70136514
I don’t know. As far as the plappening is concerned I’m partial to the theory that Pippa is trailer park bitch with a bad hairline. And most of the stuff you listed is doxx anyway. Anycolor is doing all this shit out in the open, on the livers personal accounts, the official nijisanji channel, etc. And the sisters are fair game as far as I’m concerned. If they’re gonna be retarded chinks about everything they deserve to have their bullshit mocked.

>> No.70138563

>>70134754
ISTG if you test it in court it's gonna be a dead heat whether it's really contractual relationship or an employer-employee relationship.

>> No.70138622

>>70131946
Fillian is trash

>> No.70138678

>>70138622
Yes, but that doesn’t excuse what sisters did.

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>> No.70138860

>>70134499
>>70134623
>>70134712
>>70134750
>>70134854
>>70138451
>>70138107
>Hurr qe r nut yesmen

>> No.70138885

>>70130934
sis, your sarcasm detector

>> No.70139101

>>70137796
>>70137862
>>70137886
>>70132530
>>70132683
>>70134538
>>70137593
Dooki fags are the most gullible, retarded fan base ever. Worse than chumbuds

>> No.70139214

>>70139101
ERIRRRRRAAAA YORU ASSU IS MINE

>> No.70139391

>>70130800
He needs them for the giant playbutton pile he keeps on the yatch. He sleeps atop that pile every night, its important for his routine.

>> No.70139446

>>70139101
You can't just go "a-actually that wasn't us" whenever your dumbfuck actions blow up in your face, sister.

>> No.70139589

>>70138860
>>70139101
*cums on you*

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>>70138860
>>70139101
tick tock enna

>> No.70139836

>>70136729
You haven't seen much about asiatic mentality. Anywhere from Russia to Japan, including China, India, Korea (both), etc they have notions of what can only be translated as "tactical truth", which is to say something everyone knows is a lie but no one calls out because its convenient to those in power. The asians are extremely used to just openly stating something no sane person would ever defend and expecting no pushback because power is more important than truth over there. It literally is a case of "feelings don't care about your facts."

>> No.70139856

>>70139659
ACCELERATE

>> No.70139956

>>70139659
I wonder how hard Enna is starting to regret being a bully to Selen. Selen straight up had more viewers than her Birthday Stream and Nier concert just by playing vidya, she even made more in superchats than Enna because she doesnt need to give another 30% cut to the company.

>> No.70140018
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>>70139956
But the merch!
oh wait 2%

>> No.70140071

>>70136729
>It's 2024 and we STILL haven't had a parrot testify in court yet
>However, it is also 2024, and a parrot's testimony could reasonably be submitted to court.

>> No.70140105

>>70139956
She is currently the #1 most subbed NijiEN female, doubt she gives a fuck

>> No.70140216

>>70140105
Anon, currently that's like winning gold at the Special Olympics as a person without a disability. It's a pretty low fucking bar.

>> No.70140277

>>70140071
oh shit, Parrot gonna have to testify in court for putting on a fake/overly-hyperbolic accent?

>> No.70140282

>>70134366
Whether she has BPD or not is completely fucking irrelevant.

>> No.70140307

>>70134961
any SANE person,anyone who still function like a normal human being looking at this shitshow will side with doki and shit on niji and nijifag and sister as a whole,but i guess you can't see that,because again,you are not a sane person to begin with

>> No.70140404

>>70140282
To be fair, it's only irrelevant /here/ because >we care about the bigger picture, where Doki's actual actions are largely irrelevant.
However, on Twitter? Her having BPD is actually bonus points to her side, because it means Niji exploited, bullied, and hospitalized somebody with a mental illness.

>> No.70140426

>>70139956
I don't think she has the humility nor brain to admit wrong and reflect on it.
Like who says something like "you guys will still support me even if I've killed someone" RIGHT AFTER your co-worker announced she tried to off herself?

>> No.70140597

>>70140404
>bonus point
Oh how i doubt. Twittertards espouse mental health awareness until an actual serious case of discrimination against a mentally ill person surfaces, and then they are silent at best.

>> No.70140604

>>70136514
nah they are not the same,anyone can see how different holo and niji is kinda ironic and sad that your "more hip and free nijisanji" is actually the toxic one compared to the other idol company lmao

>> No.70140709

>>70139956
>regret being a bully
Kek. If there's anything that Enna "kill the truth" Alouette regrets is not being able to know the Hospital where the bird was revovering so that she can personally finish the job herself.

>> No.70140725

>>70127706
Kek I now believe nijifags are full of fujos chinks who drooling over vox's faggot cock

>> No.70140799

>>70140709
Enna “you guys will side with me even if I kill someone” Alouette

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>>70140426
>>70140105
>>70140018
>>70140709

holy shit the lack of self-awareness. Imagine thinking youre better than the "antis" and "sisters". You losers are much worse and attacking her for something literally made up, just based on your own schizo rrats.

You didnt even watch selen, fucking pathetic.

>> No.70140884

>>70140799
Enna "don't call me out on membership streams, this is a safe space" Alouette

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>>70140871

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>>70140871
this isn't made up tho.
tick tock enna

>> No.70141033

>>70127956
>Actual retard
Kek

>> No.70141048

>>70140871
We're better because we don't just make shit up.

>> No.70141049

>>70140404
That's not how it works. No one cares about fags, mental ill retards or trannies, it's all just virue signaling.
Ones who do that kind of virtue signaling - fujos, fags, leftoids - actually way more anal and nazi than anyone else, so you will never see anything related "justice" in their actions and kvetching.
Double-faced and no self-awareness and no shame.

>> No.70141061

>>70140871
If the 800k subs Dokibird had are "imaginary" then so are Ennas 650k

>> No.70141070

>>70140105
tallest midget

>> No.70141107

>>70140871
your mother is free use for dogs

>> No.70141119

>>70140871
ENNAR AFTUR ERIRRA'S HOLES ARE PLUGGEDU YOOU AREU NEXTU

>> No.70141124

>>70141048
actually that's exactly what youre doing. Show me one example of Enna bullying Selen?
Why would you even think Enna is in any way worse than her as a person? She doesnt look as much a victim? Didnt try to kill herself?

>> No.70141131

>>70130934
>Disband nijien
The best solution sis

>> No.70141307

>>70140871
>thinking you're better than the 'sisters'
Kek who cares? If you're not NDF, wtf are you? Sisters Defence Force?

>> No.70141340

>>70128285
You should make a list of killing yourself and make the world a better place

>> No.70141394

>>70141124
Enna is extremely close friends with Elira who did the black box stream. She's also taken shrouded jabs at Selen, example being her apex predator comment.

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>>70141307

>> No.70141448

>>70141124
How about we show you an entire stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg2XZDyi7Vs

>> No.70141474

>>70139836
>But why tell the truth when a lie will work?
actual quote from a pajeet I had to work with once. And that was an Upper-class/high caste one. Imagine how bad the lower ones are.

>> No.70141489

>>70134658
Do you not know what a golden, platinum, or diamond record means? You know that more often than not they get multiples made so you can put those awards up all over the place because advertising them is good for the product.

Niji SHOULD keep the play buttons on a massive wall in their office. But they should also get one for the liver so they can flaunt it on Twitter.

>> No.70141503

>>70141394
>normal people: ahh girls are joking around, being cute!
>schizos now: every joke was a shrouded personal attack and bullying!!!!

>> No.70141560

>>70141503
Hey take it up with your owners in Nijisanji not us, they're the ones that confirmed she got bullies and harassed into killing herself

>> No.70141585

>>70141448
>normal people: They are trying hard to say most provocative, cringe things. They are trying to make comedy and be funny!
>Schizos: they used this to secretly bully and say what they really think!

>> No.70141591

>>70134658
Should a singer get an award for their music when in fact the music is actually owned by the production company?

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>>70141503
>>70141585
Holy kek this is what you guys cooked up?

>> No.70141644

>>70141429
Acshually, sisters have so much in common with rubots. Emotion-driven, bullshit fed, idolizing any grifter. Also dumb as fuck.

>> No.70141670

>>70141503
>Bully someone almost to death
>o it's just friendly jokes
retard coping faggot

>> No.70141673

>>70141560
>they're the ones that confirmed she got bullies and harassed into killing herself
That's not what they said. They said that that's what Selen has claimed not confirming that's what actually happened. Stop misrepresenting things.

>> No.70141701

>>70130400
Nijitroons should be put in the gas chamber

>> No.70141710

>>70141503
>jokes cannot be mean spirited and a reflection of real feelings

Me saying, "Fuck I hate niggers" can be considered a joke. It would probably get some laughs because of outlandish, shocking and out of nowhere the statement comea from. Doesn't mean that I don't actually hate niggers.

You didn't address her close friendship with Elira.

>> No.70141721

>>70141585
>>70141503
>People trying to defend bullying people into suicide calling other schizos
jfc try harder

>> No.70141757

>>70130530
Fuck me I wish

>> No.70141767

>>70141670
Youre pretty gullible if you think "she almost died". Youre not really trying if you recover in less than a week and know youre guaranteed to be helped by the family.

>> No.70141826

>>70141767
>I am the arbiter of the definition of suicide attempt

Lol

>> No.70141853

>>70141767
>kill yourself better dookie bitch

>> No.70141905

>>70141721
>bullying people into suicide
youre just a fool who bought this narrative with a line and sinker and now are dedicated saviorfag.

You dont know if she was bullied, or if that has anything to do with her "attempt". The evidence points to the fact that she was just lashing out for management taking down her video and not bowing to her special needs.

>> No.70141916

>>70141767
Ok Vox

>> No.70141933

>>70141905
You're the one with special needs, retard

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>> No.70142003

>>70141905
Do you know what Occam's Razor is?

>> No.70142015

>>70141429
NDF are not bots, they're an organized group of simps who aggressively defends their corporate overlord. Although they're incredibly pathetic, those who defend the those Sisters while posing as a neutral third party are on an another level of faggotry.

>> No.70142032

>>70141474
Yeah exactly. I've dealt with people with that mentality myself (chinese for the record but from what I've seen the whole damned region's all the same.) They not only don't care about the truth, but in a way actively go against it in small, seemingly unimportant ways daily. Like, they'll just straight up tell you something you know CAN'T be true to your face and smile like "you can't call me out", then get offended when, me being a socially inept dumbass irl, I went and said "wait that can't be right" thinking it was an honest mistake.

It took months for me to realize "no no, they're not wrong, they're straight up bullshiting me on purpose" and a lot of conversations with the rest of the team to figure out how their mentality works.

For me it was downright baffling because I'm a frigging scientist, and at least here in the west we are trained and required to report EVERYTHING and specially if it's a self-report. Its fine if you make a small mistake so long as you can account for it but if you hide a variable that's what gets you in trouble even if you did everything right. So having to deal with this shit is my actual nightmare.

Before then I thought the french were the scum of the earth. Now I know they're just the scum of the west. It gets so much worse out there.

>> No.70142040
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>>70142003

>> No.70142078

>>70130934
>Let's start supporting niji livers
Go fuck yourself vox's cum gurgler

>> No.70142106

>>70142040
Please answer my question.

>> No.70142110

>>70142015
>defends their corporate overlord.
Perhaps you have considered that selen is not the only female talent that had fans. Honestly her fans must be pretty special to tolerate that zoomer laugh.

>> No.70142122

sisters are not sending their best.
Or maybe they are and their best is a retarded cunt

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>>70127956

>> No.70142239

>>70142122
They have no argument, so they desperately try to gaslight everyone into memory holing the whole event.

>> No.70142256

>>70141673
>Stop misrepresenting things.
top KEK

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>>70142239
>my schizo rrats are true... because they are, sister! NDF!

>> No.70142483

>>70135559
Except he'll strip nijien naked kek

>> No.70142516

>>70141503
that used to be the case, but with all the revelations it's hard to look back on it and not see malicious strains, or at least the seeds of something bigger. if it had ended there basically nobody would care

>> No.70142525

>>70142465
nyfco is over there >>>

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>>70142032
The Chinese specifically have it incredibly bad because they're culturally taught to cheat people to get ahead. Especially westerners. It's why there's so many videos of Chinese buildings just crumbling to pieces or shit like escalators eating people.
There's a reason that this infamous thread about a guy who learned Mandarin goes around constantly, since it highlights how utterly backwards and insane Chinese business practices are.
as a personal anecdote, my brother works in manufacturing and i have been told straight up that his company NEVER buys materials or parts from china due to how infamously shoddy they are.

>> No.70142579

>>70142465
>>70141980
>>70142188
yet nobody believes your fat femcel ass 剩女

>> No.70142635

>>70142465
>all evidence points in one direction and one direction only
>BUT YOU CANT ASSUME IT IS IN THAT DIRECTION BECAUSE THERE ISNT A GIANT FLASHING SIGN SAYING YES IT IS IN THIS DIRECTION

This is your argument. You're abusing information assymetry and claiming that because assymetry exists, therefore you must assume nothing because that's just not allowed. That's unfortunately not how logic works.

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>>70136155
the dox shit is so funny because

>> No.70142758

>>70142635
>Stop spouting nasa propaganda globetard, the earth is flat. Look everywhere, flat roads, flat buildings , that shit is flat.

Is this how you validate made up conspiracy theories?

>> No.70142948

>>70142758
????
Evidence points to the earth being round you fucking retard? The fucking ancient Greeks knew the earth was round by intuition long before they ever actually proved it because its fucking obvious if you think about it for more than 30 seconds.

Just like if you think about "Hey this company that has a history of being dogshit and with no ex-employees having anything good to say about it, is trying to tell us that despite the evidence THEY presented, they did in fact nothing wrong at all and this entire thing was masterminded by a single mentally ill girl" for longer than 30 seconds, it sounds completely insane.

>> No.70143102

>>70142948
>no ex-employees having anything good to say about it

because youre not allowed to talk about it? They arent saying anything bad either. Besides selen and sayu that is. Not the highest quality data.

>> No.70143231

>>70143102
>what is an NDA

>they aren't saying anything bad
Matara and Kuro publicly kissing the feet of their current managers on stream for actually doing their job does not reflect well on the management of Nijisanji

>> No.70143370

>>70127706
The only time this bitch appears in my feed is something related to Niji. Talking about living of the drama and not your own content.

>> No.70143430

>>70143370
> Doki made this thread

>> No.70143468

>>70143231
Well yeah theyre a smaller NAbased company obviously that's what's gonna happen.
Niji is more office like and standardized

Besides, ask them in 2-3 years. First impressions and all that.

>> No.70143478

>>70140871
You don't need to watch her before to know that bullying a person with a mental illness is really messed up. Also you shouldn't be here if you're 12

>> No.70143515

>>70143478
>you need to treat me like a retard because im retarded

>> No.70143618
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70143618

Dear, sisters
There is no narrative that you can push. Doki is a "BPD" menhera, Doki was the drama mastermind who brought down NijiEN, or what about "both sides." Sayu is disgusting, Sayu is equally as bad as NijiEN, or Sayu is a "clout chaser." Hololive/other corpo is equally as bad, b-but what about Hololive/other corpo, or “blank” Vtuber/talent is bad. Whatever, none of that changes the fact that NijisanjiEN is dead. All of your "livers" will be gone by the end of the year. Vox, Elira, and the others are going to be out of a job soon. Even if NijiEN somehow continues I hope you and your "livers" enjoy being the laughing stock and vermin of the Vtubing space. Meanwhile, Hololive EN, other corpos, Dokibird, Sayu along with every other talent harmed by Niji will live on and there is nothing you can do about it. Cope you femcel sub-human bitches.

>> No.70143659

>Zaion's NDA expires
>it's super effective

>> No.70143673

>>70143468
>its because Niji is Japanese
>Its because Niji is a big corpo
So why doesn't it happen to Hololive? Why hasn't a Hololive talent tried to kill themselves over mismanagement yet if it's just an industry norm?

>Besides, ask them in 2-3 years. First impressions and all that.
Veibae, Nyanners and plenty of others have joined and left Vshoujo with no issues and don't seem to covertly dunk on them. So, the evidence is there.

>> No.70143755

>>70143618
You believe they dont have enough fans to make it as indie? The people who unsubbed were just some deadsubs who remembered they were subbed when generation launched.

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>>70143755

>> No.70143803

>>70140426
>>70140871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RogCZeTHGiY
Here's your fucking receipt.
Also you don't need to justify it as "context" because it's bad taste whichever way people interpret it in relation to the time it came out
She could have just shut the fuck up or say something neutral and let things blow over, but she couldn't help herself, just like you sisters
>if you really are Enna: take a step back and fucking reflect on yourself hard, woman. Life won't be good to you if you continue being like this

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>>70130823
They do the same for their JPs as well.
They "lost" Morinaka Kazaki's play button so there's now no play button on either the company room or her own hands.

https://youtu.be/sBPo0JUNQ34
> Kazaki : Speaking of "doing our best"
> Kazaki : They decorate the office with all of the members' silver play buttons, right?
> Ibrahim : Ah yeah, on the wall right?
> Kazaki : It seems that my button alone was lost.
> Ibrahim : lol (thinking it's a joke).. *silence* wait what !?
> Kazaki : It was lost.
> Ibrahim : What do you mean?
> Kazaki : Only mine is not there.
> Ibrahim : Eh? Did they really lose it?
> Kazaki : When I asked, "Where is it?", they said, "We don't know."
> Ibrahim : Well wasn't there a way you could get another one if you lose it?
> Kazaki : No.
> Ibrahim : Poor girl. That's a big thing (to lose).
> Kazaki : That's why if I don't get to 1 million subs I won't get another one.
> Ibrahim : Let's get the golden one then.
> Kazaki : Golden one.. *laughs*
> Kazaki : I... I will... do my best...
> Ibrahim : It's funny that they lost that, how did that even happen?
> Ibrahim : Maybe it was just not delivered or something?
> Kazaki : No, it was delivered. They sent the photo of it waaay back when it came. "This is Kazaki -san's play button". I shared that one (on SNS) but after that..
*gets distracted by Apex*

>> No.70143835

>>70143673
Vei implied she was getting fucked over by her contracts in that "always get a lawyer" tweet but that was it.

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>>70143755
>The people who unsubbed were just some deadsubs

>> No.70143946

>>70143515
I don't know anon, deliberately isolating and screwing with someone who apparently has BPD seems pretty screwed up.
Even if emotional instabilities make them difficult to deal with mentally ill people aren't evil. Especially when those actions feed into the kind of self-perceptions and paranoia BPD causes.

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>>70136639
it was super cute indeed

>> No.70143967

>>70143835
I mean, yes. You should always get a lawyer when you're indepently negotiating contracts.

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>>70134827
>>70138860
> 4chan
> hugbox
sisters' neurons are twisting in ways never seen before

>> No.70144069

>>70136514
>/vt/ heavily censored.
>NDF spamming hate thread and not getting banned.

Cool story bro, now can the talents get their buttons or it’s still wrong to protect them?

>> No.70144095

>>70143831
Doesnt count

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A lot of anons have said that people are going to make case studies out of Niji's PR fiasco but think there should be a case study into the NDF sisters as well. It honestly boggles my mind how absolutely deluded they are with how they keep coming back trying to "clap back" at haters in some futile attempt at saving face when everyone can see that Niji's already dug its own grave.

>> No.70144112

>>70144026
Think they might be testing the waters for Eliras grand return

>> No.70144144

>>70143755
>You believe they dont have enough fans to make it as indie?
With the numbers they're pulling now? Fuck no. lol

>> No.70144162

>>70142003
That would require them to admit a white guy had a great idea which their yellow boy toy forbid

>> No.70144196

>>70128190
Sure anon by friday I will drop the documented proof for you, cause I can't go another day knowing your majestic self didn't receive everything you need

>> No.70144248

>>70144102
The whole revenge porn accusation towards a chick on twitter is the most baffling thing these femcels ever did

It's just beyond me how they were able to arrive to that conclusion and thought it was actually the result of a coherent and healthy train of thought

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>>70141124

>> No.70144307

>>70144102
>in some futile attempt at saving face
reminds me of a certain country

>> No.70144318

>>70141710
While it is true that that can be considered a joke, it isn’t a very good one specifically because it’s unclear whether it’s true or satire. This is the whole reason Uki’s nonsense was called out, because it seemed like he actually believed what he was saying.
All that is to say, sure that stream can be a joke and also their real feelings, but if that’s the case then the joke is just bad and really not that funny.
Which was true anyway, so it works out.

>> No.70144327

>>70128285
>Let them block people so they don't have to see hate comments and move on.
AAAAND that's why the list includes people that never said anything hateful, but alas here you are saying is just a harmless blocklist

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>>70141124
#2

>> No.70144406

>>70144307
>stop making these threads, gwelio
>don't you know that you're hurting the feelings of the niji-fanbase

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>>70141124
#3

>> No.70144441

>>70144318
> isn’t a very good one specifically because it’s unclear whether it’s true or satire
It's called post-ironic humour.
>This is the whole reason Uki’s nonsense was called out, because it seemed like he actually believed what he was saying.
Uki's comment can't even be contextualised as a joke.

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>>70141124
#4

>> No.70144559

>>70144102
They case study already exists.
It's about deep in the well Idol fanatics and the fucked up industry as a whole iirc. Niji treats their talents like any other Idol group does ultimately.

>> No.70144582

>>70143755
>[insert two day one Fameliras(28 months) member milestone superchat saying they are done with her here]

>> No.70144673

>>70144411
I seriously start to think that Enna started to hate her when they did the collab in chinese

>> No.70144754

>>70143835
Vei also has no perspective.
She may see an extremely lenient cut as "predatory" because she is used to have 0 cuts. She'd probably faint if she ever saw what Holo or Niji take

>> No.70144759

>>70144673
I'm noticing a pattern, the bullies absolutely cant handle it when someone tries to banter back with them, you could see it with Kyo absolutely seething over Zaion talking back to him
they're supposed to just take it

>> No.70144770

>>70144673
Being HK/Cantonese is a an original sin to mainlanders.

>> No.70144780

>>70141585
>flopseil was a term COINED LIVE in this stream
seems like another win for the schizos, sis

>> No.70144822

>>70141673
>https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1754459182412222481
>Then Doki responds to the slander https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1754459958119432664
Niji is the one that dragged it into the open when any competent HR and Lawyer would have managed to shut the fuck up.

>> No.70144865

>>70140105
>Taking first place by sabotaging who's on top
lmao

>> No.70144887

>>70144354
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>> No.70144956

>>70128190
This is pathetic sis

>> No.70144979

>>70144102
anyone who ever had to interact with kpop loving femcels knows that they poison everything they touch.

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Real talk full stop,
I'm tired of nobody ever suing these companies. Everyone always joked about Americans being quick to sue, but nobody ever does even with bullshit like this.

This should be a slam dunk case for Selen, but she's not going to take advantage of it? These companies don't improve unless someone shoves a dildo up their ass, and this is the perfect case to do it.

>> No.70145214

>>70141124
I will not even use any rrats, or assumptions
regardless of them "making up" this is a classic behavior from your typical mean girls clique, and anyone thinking they stopped this behavior after Nina is extremely stupid(the infamous "apex predator" clip make it obvious they didn't change)
https://www.youtube.com/live/CzkZlqbVGoU?si=wFRP8y0RZgSZgvK_&t=2867

>> No.70145234

>>70145158
A couple of lawyers have already pointed out it won't be an easy win for Doki. And if she did win, it wouldn't have been worth it since Niji can drag this shit out and end up costing her more in the long run.

>> No.70145312

>>70144673
The Wrestlesanji tournament was a real mask-off event for Enna. Sure, it ran late, but she's the only one to break kayfabe and get snippy about not signing up for the next one.

>"Stop roleplaying Doppio, I have no time, I'm gonna go to sleep. There's no God in this world,"
>Ragequits the VC

>InB4 it's just Enna's brand of dry, snippy humor.
There's a point in multiple gangster movies where the rest of the mafia realize Joe Pesci's character isn't just just a silly guy, but a dangerous psychopath who needs to put down before he turns on them. It'll happen in the clique sooner or later.

>> No.70145340

>>70145234
I'm pretty sure she could easily push for criminal charges, which are much easier (on her) to do and they can't delay nearly as easily.
And once you win a criminal conviction the civil cases tend to be easy layups.

Of course not a lawyer or anything, but large companies get sued by individuals all the time.

>> No.70145392

>>70144318
Firsy of all, a joke has a punchline

>> No.70145472

>>70145340
If only it were that easy. From what I understood, Niji being a JP company is what's largely protecting them in this case. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see justice done but it's not in the cards right now.

>> No.70145544

>>70145158
Americans are not quick to sue lol, most of them can't afford a few hours of a lawyer's time.

>> No.70145615

>>70139101
Eriraaaaaaaaaaaaa, ur asssssuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

>> No.70145819

>>70141503
Amazing argument sister, just girls being a little silly. I guess you also troll your friends to commit suicide sometimes. Tee. Hee.

>> No.70145947

Sisters can seethe, shit their pants, rip out their hair as much as they want, but they'll keep losing
>B-B-BUT MY NEWEST COPE
Lose lose lose, that's all you do, that's all the shithole corp you worship does, keep losing and waste more of your mental and emotional energy on this lost cause because of irrational sunk cost fallacy.

>> No.70146060

>>70145544
correct me if I'm wrong but neither side of any hypothetical case between doki and niji would be American. She's a canuck iirc and niji is obviously Japanese.
besides, international suits are hilariously expensive iirc. the only international civil suit that actually went to court I can remember offhand is when britbonger Sargon of Applebee's was sued by some american black chick.

>> No.70146239

>>70146060
There's a lawyer who talked about this stuff more in-depth than the Trumptard did, called Runkle of the Baley
I didn't watch all of it but the gist was that it'd be pretty difficult to take Nijisanji to task for breaking any Canadian laws. Like one example he mentioned is where even if they wanted to sue them for something like violating PIPEDA, Niji could just not respond and there'd be nothing Canada could do to extradite them.

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>>70144354
>Realistically, one week later this incident will pass and everything goes back to normal
>I hope

>> No.70146800

>>70144301
wtf it can't be true

omg it's true wtf https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzkVEA6eI9I

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