/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

NIJISANJI JP's "Gwelu Os Gar" uploaded a cover song on Youtube that mocks Hololive's Pekora Usada and her fans,which was created by anti-fans.
Although his fans and NIJI JP fans praised it, others criticized it and made the music video private.Gwelu voluntarily suspended his activities, but was not officially punished.
According to Seren's example, the rule is that music videos for cover songs must be checked by Nijisanji / ANYCOLOR before being uploaded. If that's the case, ANYCOLOR has given permission to ridicule Hololive,Pekora Usada, and their fans.

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>>70101858
Old news

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>>70101858
We know, slowpokechama.

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>>70101858
this is such a fossil.

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>>70101858
>but was not officially punished.
They officially announced his suspension last year, shortly before said suspension ended. He was stealth suspended for something like a month, only for them to then reveal the stealth suspension at the end of it for some reason.

[Anonymous No.]

>that font
>that punctuation
>"Seren"
Nihonjin spotted, give my regards to Nijian thread

[Anonymous No.]

How do you feel about pictures manipulated by foreigners?

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>>70101912
>>70102073
>>70102446
But it is interesting to look at again given that the dokidrama revolved so much around the process to get a cover approved. Apparently according to Niji managers using a graduated talent in a cover is something that takes ages of reviews to get approved but openly shitting on another company's fans is A-OK.

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>>70101912
>>70102073
>>70102446
NDF can't fucking read or understand context good god

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>>70103373
I mean Riku himself seethed about hololive calling their popularity "forcefully aquired audiance", the apple dosent fall far away from the tree.

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>>70101858
I'm a holofag and i'm ok with these nijis trying to insult or mock us. They are beneath our notice after all and none of these desperate attempts to leech our gravitas will change that.

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>>70101858
Yes anon, the naggers have a long tracklist of being shitty to others. This is why they have so many enemies. You meet the same people on your way back down, as they say. Riku sailed too close to the Marianna-trench.

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>regurgitating old drama
take a break nigger
make a fucking drama general for the sisters already

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>>70101858
oooooh, i see, nice one anon.

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>>70101858
>.Gwelu voluntarily suspended his activities, but was not officially punished.
He actually was stealth suspended at first but when he sperged out in his rm the suspension was made public
Thing is if you actually know about nijisanji history you know that gwelu is in the management hands off camp along with gunduo, naru, fuwa, hajime and mayuzumi and have butted heads with the pro management camp behind the scenes ( Mito, Chronoir and ROFMAO)

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>>70101858
>an actual japanese posting here
nigger

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>>70104333
>mito
>pro-management
Since fucking when? She's been butting heads with management for 6 years now.

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>>70104510
>Since fucking when? She's been butting heads with management for 6 years now.
Since 2022 when she stopped fighting against management
Why do you think she opened up memberships despite being so vocally against it in the past

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>>70103618
Where'd he say this?

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>>70104510
>Mito
>Anything but controlled opposition by Anycolor

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>>70104651
Wow, her opening memberships is proof she's caved to management after years of being a thorn in their side.

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>>70104745
nta but an old interview the same interview where he said that he was more of a pump and dump guy

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>>70101858
Damn, NJSJ have always been cunts huh?

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>>70104842
I mean yeah? since she has always said that she was against memberships because it was favoritism and gatekeeping and said that she will never willfully open one but suddenly out of the blue she and toya decided to open up their memberships

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>>70101858
It's pretty funny that Gwelu is so irrelevant that he had to do resort to this in a desperate attempt for attention after Cover and Anycolor started working together to combat antis, defamation and harassment of their talents/livers. It's not the first time he's done retarded shit and it won't be the last. Anything to get just a handful more to notice him and realize he exists I guess.
But yeah, it's pretty fucked up that they allowed this. If there hadn't been any pushback they would've just left it alone. Bad optics all around.

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>>70101858
It is well known that holo derangement syndrome is present at all levels of nijisanji, from fans to organs to management itself.

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>>70104510
Not that guy, but like you have to define pro and anti management. I sincerely doubt Mito wants Nijisanji to go back to the days of racing against Ubereats drivers for content, or of loudly discussing how you're getting plowed in Italy while a clearly Japanese garbage truck beeps in the distance. That would put her firmly in the pro-corporate, post-IPO camp in comparison to somebody like Gundou (RIP).

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>>70101858
>number monkey runs to the the catalog with the hottest piece of shit from last year in his hands
every time

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>>70101858
ancient news, still based. fuck Pekora

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>>70104965
Always has been.

The core of their fanbase is formed by the evils of NND chigyus who would openly make a bet with each other for the highest amount of suicide victims from their relentless online terror attacks.

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>>70105137
funny because now they are trying pic related using rosemi as a front with her tekken shit
what, is she pro managment now? >>70104333

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>>70105855
rosemi is not pro management
she is the en management

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>>70106067
That's plucking right.

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>>70101858
Keksagi always bring up this song but the truth is that there's nothing anti about the song, unless you want to assume that the praise isn't genuine because Pekora is a serial liar who hides things from her fans to pretend she's something she's not.
Which tells me how much nousagi trust Pekora. But they have good reason I guess after Pekora revealed she secretly moved into a new home a long time ago...so that she could live alone...but she doesn't even stream in that new house for some mysterious reason
The chicken is so cold...so so cold...it might as well be frozen.

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>>70101858
I mean pekora got the last laugh eventually since the guy has been getting fewer and fewer sponsorship streams and even ranted about how he needs to find a part time job in order to provide for his family in his rm back in april

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>>70106739
uh oh nijiseethe

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>>70104333
chronoir and rofmao are nijisanji's biggest projects and fujos are their biggest paypigs.

kanae alone moves like 3 times a year? he has buttheads with management, but he has a natural "the problem is me and not trying hard enough" attitude.

kuzuha just kinda fucks off and has to be dragged into things before he voluntarily steps up. 100% needs to be told what to do, where to go. the only controversy in recent memory was the rumor that he was dating mikoto and he ignored it largely. he only denied the claims in his yt membership.

not sure about rofmao, fuwamin has a very popular rm. he kind of strikes me as the "go with the flow" type.

ultimately, my best guess is, they might not give a shit about management directly but don't actively disobey since their careers/financial wellbeing can be jeopardized.

as far as i'm concerned as an eop, they try not to start shit for best optics.

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>>70107855
>he has buttheads with management
last time he butted heads with upper management was way back in 2021

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>>70107593
That's not nijiseethe, that's just Pekoschizo.

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>>70108771
>Calling out Pekora'a lies makes me Pekoschizo

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>>70108389
>2021
wasn't that during the time where he got raided constantly with hate because he talked out of turn during a tourney, apparently he fucked hoshikawa (based if he did) and management kind of threw his ass to the wolves during that time and let him self-mitigate. he has taken the piss out of management recently. i guess some intern made a poll on one of the chronoir does things videos about do people prefer kanae or kuzuha and it made fans upset. like 6 months ago, sure. but more recent than 2021.

he doesn't talk about it or air his gripes publicly as far as i know. the man just cries about being single majority of the time.

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>>70109782
>new IP
yeah you're a schizo

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>>70109967
Nouseethe

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>>70109870
>he has taken the piss out of management recently. i guess some intern made a poll on one of the chronoir does things videos about do people prefer kanae or kuzuha and it made fans upset. like 6 months ago, sure. but more recent than 2021.
nah he and ibrahim stopped pissing at upper management and focused on middle management like how ibrahim sperged about one of his videos getting edited wrong and blamed some intern for it despite the order of the editing coming from the higher ups

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>>70110268
i do remember that situation with ibrahim. don't blame him for sperging. it wasn't even his fucking stream they clipped.

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>>70109870
>i guess some intern made a poll on one of the chronoir does things videos about do people prefer kanae or kuzuha
Why the fuck would they do that? Don't they know polls pitting livers from the same company against each other are faux pas?

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>>70109782
>Calling out Pekora'a lies makes me Pekoschizo
I'm calling you Pekoschizo because you're a Pekoschizo. A schizo obsessed with Pekora. She lives in your head rent free 24/7, 365 days a year.
Also
>resetting your IP
Good job exposing yourself as a schizo. Only schizos do that because they cannot help but schizo out all the time.
>there's nothing anti about the song
How about your own lies, schizo? The song was based on an anti comment so the song was 100% a jab at Pekora and her fans. It's not rocket science but I understand reality gets mixed up when the voices in your head twist the facts into things they aren't on a constant basis. Pekora grows stronger the more you anti her though, so keep going.

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>>70110268
Asia loves punching down...

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>>70110819
isnt kanae half brit?

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>>70111056
hoshikawa is.

>>70110739
because interns are retarded

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>>70102846
Stop manipulating images like that, foreigner!

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>>70112030
Is funny kekaroo look like demons. Too in Nijisanji. Both are satanic propaganda from Rotchild and Rockefeller families. Even from Jeffrey Epstein.

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>>70104333
>management hands off camp
>fuwa
>pro management camp
>ROFMAO

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>>70109870
>apparently he fucked hoshikawa
Why are you making shit up? That's not even a rrat. He had drama regarding hskw but it wasn't like that.
>the man just cries about being single majority of the time.
What are you even on about? That's not really a common topic for him

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>>70101858
ancient news, but kurosanji truly never changes

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>>70112030
no.

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>>70114964
Kanae whines about being single and wanting to kill himself a lot are you crazy

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>>70115217
I actually watch him beyond random translated youtube clips which is why I'm calling you a retard. If you knew anything other than random niji drama and clips you'd know that he has stopped talking about wanting to die by 30, and as for the single thing he doesn't really talk about it any more than the regular vtuber. So I don't know why you specified that as a character trait of his.

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>>70101858
He is so unpopular it could not be a drama. The average Niji jp fans knew nothing about it.

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>>70104975
and yet salome said the same thing and still doesn't have membership

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>>70114964
>>70115432

>he had drama regarding hskw
that was the drama? it was about him dating her because they collab a lot

>common topic for him
he has at minimum a dozen streams talking about how dating is hard for him because of his job as a streamer, or he gets friendzoned by people he's interested in

he has stopped talking about wanting to die by 30 but that doesn't negate the fact he does talk about being single a lot and how he laments being around 30 and tfw no gf

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>>70110779
NTA but he is correct and you are seething

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>>70101858
Holy newfag

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>>70115892
>it was about him dating her because they collab a lot
Yes it was essentially schizos getting heated over their stream interactions, and you're a schizo for genuinely believing a ''dating'' rumor like that. There's been so many of those and you're not supposed to take them seriously.
>dating is hard for him because of his job as a streamer
You're just misunderstanding why he brings it up in the first place. It's not to appear ''relatable'' or anything but to appeal to gachikois and remind people that he is in fact single. He's the one that chooses to stream for 12h+ a day anyway, he's probably the Niji with the most stream hours.
>he laments being around 30 and tfw no gf
No, he was saying he wants to die by 30 because he doesn't want to see himself become irrelevant. But he's said that he'll keep streaming as long as his fans don't get bored of him.
It's so blatantly clear you don't even understand the clips you watch, much less watch any streams, so I don't know why you're trying to push your blatantly wrong opinion.

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>>70106067
>>70105855
CHAOS IS A LADDER

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Remember when Demiurge got "suspended" and got a 3d sponsored stream with other members cancelled, then the toxic jp niji fans blamed and attacked Pekora.

Meanwhile, the rabbit just ignored the whole thing coz she's above all these seething shitters.

This happened a few days after the whole niji/holo announcement about taking action against defamation too.

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>>70104975
didn't know there was a based jp niji

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>>70106739
Lyrics please? i want to read.

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Never forget Nijisanjifags were the same niggers who triggered the Holocaust sending copyright claims to game devs like crazy and incited Aloe to do An hero, among other things. Nijisanji has always been the vermin of the Vtubing space. Show no mercy to these fuckers.

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>>70116505
>schizo for believing a dating rumor
??? i said "apparently" as in, it's not factual and just rumor mill. it's based if it is true, however it's not
>...appeal to gachikoi and remind people he is in fact single...
yes i know, it's funny and cranks up the pathetic factor
>blatantly wrong opinion
anon, the only one who is getting upset is you. it's funny to joke about him being 30 and not knowing the touch of a woman

sounds like you're the schizo? kanae won't fuck you for defending him on vt

i would know because i asked him (real)

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>>70118961
oh I have not forgotten. Niji's tried many times to ruin the personal lives of perceived enemies. This is why so many people do not like them.

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>>70119121
It's fine to have shit takes and opinions but keep them to yourself instead of trying to state them as facts, when you obviously don't even have the basic knowledge about the subject.
I'm not even a gachi in the first place, I was just baffled at how wrong your perception of him was.

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>>70119557
it must be a skill to be this retarded, no wonder cnr fans are regarded as foaming fujo schizophrenics fanbase

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>>70120266
Nothing I stated was wrong though, it's just facts.

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>>70101858
This is old as fuck but it's good to bring up. A lot of people seem to follow the mantra that Niji EN is rotten, but NijiJP is just like Hololive. No, NijiJP is just as bad as NijiEN. NijiEN didn't just happen in a vacuum. The entire organization is rotten to it's very core.

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>>70116705
Rosemi is House Tyrell
Yeah it checks out.

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>>70101858
Isn't this the "What in the loony toons ass in that" guy from NijiJP? What the fuck was he thinking!?

[Anonymous No.]

There was a NijiJP liver named Moruru who left the company in 2019. The exact circumstance surrounding her retirement aren't well known, but the rumor back in the day was that she suffered bullying from within her gen. Those rumors have never been substantiated; most people at time chose to believe that Moruru had personal issues committing to a streamer identity, that she had a history of false starts under various accounts, and dismissed the idea of bullying. Her career after leaving Nijisanji has not borne out the idea that the problem was with her.

Then there was the Yuzuki Roa vs Kingyozaka Miero drama in 2020. Roa accused Miero of copying elements of her persona; Miero accused Roa of harassing her over the issue through private messages. The organization took Roa's side in the conflict and instructed Miero to change her character to be less like Roa. Miero ended up being terminated for breaking NDAs. Miero lost most of her credibility do to the NDA violation, as well as accusations of other kinds of misconduct in her past, and her claims about bullying were largely overshadowed.

When Zaion left the company last year, Anycolor presented a termination statement similar to the one they would later give for Selen, outlining that she had repeatedly broken the company's guidelines since her debut etc etc. The person behind Zaion released her own document describing the mismanagement, double standards and unfair practices she witnessed while working with Nijisanji. She described how she wasn't allowed to do things other livers could because of her background as an independent streamer. She has also talked about feeling betrayed by the other livers in her group, that livers had turned a blind eye to her mistreatment, and at least one of them has made damaging accusations against Zaion's character on stream (possibly at the company's behest). She felt that people she had once considered her friends had stabbed her in the back. And just like Selen, Zaion contemplated ending her life.

In each of these situations, fans of Nijisanji reacted by placing the blame on the person leaving the company, and refused to acknowledge the possibility of wrongdoing on both their part, and on other livers. In Zaion's case they accused her of lying about her situation and gaslighting her fellow livers, readily believing those who remained loyal to the company. All the claims about the abuse Zaion suffered were overwhelming dismissed- until everything she described happened to Selen.

Anycolor seems to have a history of favoritism and turning their talents against each other. They fail to mediate conflicts between the talents when disputes occur, they enforce their rules unequally from person to person, and they either tolerate or encourage talents smearing individuals who have displeased the company. And when stuff does fuck up, they push all the blame away from themselves and turn the exiting liver into a scapegoat.

So you're telling me that they've done this for at least four years, six if you take the speculations around Moruru as fact, and they'll just suddenly change their corporate culture from top to bottom, all the way from the lowest manager to the CEO at the top, across both branches? No, I do not believe so. This shit is institutional at this point, and the thing about institutions is that you can replace everyone currently at it, ship of theses style, and still end up with the same culture.

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>>70112030
We'll manipulate your brain circuits next.

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>>70105212
What's this about Italy and garbage trucks, anon? It rings a bell but I don't remember exactly

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>>70101858
old news, but aint shit changed

[Anonymous No.]

so when is nui coming to hololive, thats all that matters to me

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>>70101858
Alright, so It's easier to get a permission to shit on holo than to cover a song that already got an OK from the artist. Niji management is such a wondrous and positive place.

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>>70123189
I bet he didn't have to wait 37 hours to get the OK either

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>>70101858
The fact that Gwelu walked out of this alive was fucking based, Pekora didn't care about this to begin with. Gwelu's main trait is basically getting flamed by a ton of retarded shit he does, one of the most based Niji Livers.

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>>70122802
We need a kanzarin girl in hololive for real

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>>70101858
edgy

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>>70121565
>Moruru
Wasn't it the previous incarnation of Himemori Luna?

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>>70124404
nah, this is cringe.

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>>70124952
boo fucking hoo, did the elf man hurt your feelings?

[Anonymous No.]

This only means Selen could've release her cover where it ends with Mysta, Pomu and Nina cold stone tombstoning a bunch of holos and blowing up cover hq, and it would've been instantly vetted for release.

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>>70101858
>According to Seren's example, the rule is that music videos for cover songs must be checked by Nijisanji / ANYCOLOR before being uploaded. If that's the case, ANYCOLOR has given permission to ridicule Hololive,Pekora Usada, and their fans.
To play devil's advocate, you could argue that NijiEN operates by different rules from NijiJP.

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>>70125706
NTA but his l2d hurts my eyes every time I look at it.

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>>70124404
>>70125706
Typical Nijinigger behavior. Hang yourself faggot.

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>>70121565
Here's some breaking news for you Gaijin, that's pretty normal stuff in Japan. If anything, Hololive is the weird one for actually caring about people

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>>70101858
very interesting but does someone have an archive of that song and/or maybe the lyrics? I don't want to call anyone a liar but I can't read any of those screenshots sadly

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>>70126349
Which is why Hololive will soon be the only JP vtuber corpo that succesfully expanded overseas.

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>>70102588
>stealth suspend someone
>announce literally on the last day before he returns "oh yeah he was suspended for a month ;)"

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>>70126701
isn't vshojo japanese?

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>>70126869
retard

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>>70126869
As Japanese as IM is a cripple

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>>70121565
Mucho texto

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>>70101858
I'm sure there are plenty of current fuck ups coming from Nijisanji, so that you don't need to dig up ancient relics like this.

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>>70121565
The Roa/Meiro one needs the context that even after leaving Nijisanji, Meiro continued to shit on Roa, despite Roa being essentially silenced by Anycolor due to their dramatuber lawsuit that wasted 3 years of Roa's life.

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>>70121565
Moruru's situation has some substance considering her tweets during the Meiro/Roa conflict.

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>>70116505
I feel like I've read you schizoing out over Kanae years ago on this board, where do you even post anymore if the male JP thread is kill and /2434/ has little to no male posters

[Anonymous No.]

Disgusting black company.

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>>70121565
>rumor back in the day was that she suffered bullying from within her gen
The rumours was started by /jp/Hololive global. They heard the joke about Sasaki Saku being a bully and took it seriously. It was never from jp side.

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>>70104745
https://forbesjapan.com/articles/detail/38187
Forbes interview, late 2020
>>20457274
> ファンの数を増やしていくなかで、田角は言う
As the number of fans grow, Tazumi says
> "強引にファンを獲得すれば"
"If you forcibly acquire/gain fans"
> "コンテンツの消費が早くなる"
"The consumption of the contents (VODs/streams etc I assume) will become faster"
> 持続的にファンの心をつかみ長期で応援されるような『文化』にしたい
We want to win the hearts of the fans in a sustainable(LOL) way and create a type of (fan-)culture that will support us over the long-term.

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>>70129650
It was literally something that was brought up in an older video of aloes, which got circulated around and that’s why jp nij fans harassed her. Regardless of whether they were true, there were rumours of bullying in jp

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>>70130005
Can you stop making shit up, you fucking seanigger. She never said anything about Moruru and Nijisanji. All she ever talked about was Chitose. The rest was about her old company or other small idol and VA companies.

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>>70107855
> he has buttheads with management
roru
Kanae is basically a combination of Vox and Luca in JP
> if you don't like it, just quit bro

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>>70121565
4 years in baby

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>>70130264
And what did she say about Chitose?

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>>70115432
An actual, real nijisister fujo. Okay.

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>>70120552
Vtubers lie very often. Even if he stated some things, and they were on such sacred streams that you watched, doesn’t mean everything that comes out of his mouth is true.

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>>70129933
>"we're not doing that, but this"
>AHHHHHHHH HE MUST BE TALKING ABOUT HOLOLIVE
just another day in the numbermonkey thread

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>>70101858
Everyone is saying this is old news but ignoring the fact that Niji is blatantly lying about their song permission requirements

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>>70131000
She said the real reason Chitose graduated was because she was doxxed

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>>70121565
I'm glad niji is dying these days, looking forward to the nijicuck cope when it all comes crumbling down.

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account on Twitter called "Sakana" who knew kingyozaka's audition at the time leaked it along with slander against her.
Later, for some reason, there was also the name "Sakana" in ShiinaYuika's switch friend's name.

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>>70107855
Isn't the problem with NijiJP right now is that they only care for 2 of their groups which is Chronoir and ROFMAO?

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>>70101858
This comes after Cover and ANYCOLOR issued a joint statement against the slander
The manager has given his permission for this joke of a song.