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>> No.69831442

For who?

>> No.69831725

Elira let everybody know that she's just an awful person, worse than Enna.

>> No.69831882

>>69831314
Elira's stuck with Anycolor forever. No other agency will ever touch her again and if she tried to go indie she'd get obliterated.

>> No.69832101

>>69831314
BullyCHADs always win in the end, I have faith

>> No.69832230

>>69831314
Did something new happen?

>> No.69832292

>>69832230
Leaker was in this thread
>>69804931

>> No.69832346

>>69831314
rebuild anew with shareholder cum

>> No.69832388

Her channel is at 564k subs. Even though the bleeding has stopped, it's absolutely never going to work out. Her best bet is to rebrand as a JP/SEA channel.

>> No.69832509

I know Elira Enna and Millie were always kinda off, but didn't know Reimu is one of the bully gang
as well
Guess it's nice to know

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>>69832509

>> No.69832670

>>69832509
>but didn't know Reimu is one of the bully gang
She's always mean and bitchy though, it was kind of obvious.
Also, I think it's pretty clear by now that she fucked over that Vox dating ASMR stream on purpose since her clique was pissed off about Luxiems success. She wanted to bring him down a peg and succeeded.

>> No.69832691

So do anyone make a good compilation of all the leaks?

>> No.69832713

>clique is composed mostly of singers
I don't know any singers irl, are they statistically more likely to be assholes than regular people?

>> No.69832741

>>69831725
>>69831882
Despite everything I hope she gets to reflect on herself and grow up to better person. A bit naive, but I keep wishing there's a good ending for everyone in this situation.

>> No.69832766

>>69832691
There's this
>>69804931
but it doesn't show the posts they're replying to

>> No.69832772

>>69832691
https://imgur.com/a/L3n1qUS

>> No.69832816

>>69832741
hitler wouldve grown up to be a better person if he didnt kill himself

>> No.69832826

>>69831314
wuv u wiwa, pls sing me happy birthday

>> No.69832827
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>>69832670
I think she was just having a woman moment and was excited to pop into her friend Vox's stream and shoot the shit about her accomplishment.
But she didn't realize Chinese fujos are 10x more schizo than your average unicorns

>> No.69832835

>>69832772
People don't actually believe this giga larper right?

>> No.69832851

>>69832766 (me)
Meant to paste the link here
>>69832772

>> No.69832891

>>69832835
All rrats have been becoming true, anon. We can't discount it completely.

>> No.69832917

>>69832827
Unlikely, Millie, one of the leaders of the clique, as very vocal about her discontentment with Luxiem. That was the start of Vox downfall, no way that was just a random thing. And I say that I someone that disliked Vox and his rapey """"ASMRs""""

>> No.69832924

Have some faith that Rosemi has a spine.

Is Pomu really just a coward?

>> No.69832954

>>69832835
All rrats are real until it's not.

t.imatard

>> No.69832970

>>69832713
I refuse to believe Millie has any talent other than swallowing entire living chickens

>> No.69832973

>>69832891
People just repeat this and cite anonymous posters on 4ch with literally no evidence to mention to back literally any of it up. In fact if you watched streams a lot of it is obvious made up and incorrect bullshit. But that's expecting too much of vtuber "fans" apparently

>> No.69832978

>>69831314
>niji will cease to exist in the end

>> No.69832983

>>69832509
I mean, compare how she reacted at any of the multiple points in time where the group was backhandedly dogging on any of the members they didn't like with Nina. Nina clearly never wanted anything to do with that shit and just wanted to stream before getting roped in and essentially forced to at risk of her career, and even then did just enough to toe the line and play nice without giving in entirely. Reimu on the other hand was all too happy to join the dogpile and often was the one initiated it. Makes sense too, with her being the outsider. She'd want to signal to the others proactively that she agreed with them so they'd like her more.

>> No.69833011

>>69832924
>Pomu really just a coward
How? She's not talking about the drama at all, which is what a grown up would do after leaving their employer. If you are too vocal about working at a shitty place that can result in you losing future work prospects so from a waggie/OL perspective the way Pomu is operating makes complete sense.

>> No.69833025
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>>69831882
That's where you're wrong, Anon. Coomers will take all

>> No.69833033

>>69832917
Flip crab mentally, google it, it's a real thing.

>> No.69833045

>>69831314
She offed herself a few hours after the stream went up.

>> No.69833091

>>69832973
tbf why would anyone watch a niji en stream

>> No.69833093

>>69832924
She might not be rich enough to pay the price of breaking NDA.

>> No.69833097

>>69832741
>reflect and grow as a person
this isn't a real thing, people don't change once they become adults
only twitterkids say this and they don't even mean it, it's just their nice twitter way of saying kys

>> No.69833099

Now that I think about it, wasn't Elira originally the founder of an indie vtuber group? I can't remember all of the details though

>> No.69833101
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>>69831314
Imagine being a legit fan of Elira right now. I'd have cried my eyes out if Pomu was the one doing that video.

>> No.69833105

>>69832917
She's literally good friends with most of them, including Vox, why would she hate Luxiem?

>> No.69833154

>>69833099
Yeah, Hanamori

>> No.69833183

>>69832741
Even if she does become better, all these happenings have effectively vilified her forever. The internet will find a way to hate her no matter what form she may take online. And if there are some freaks against her, she'll get harassed IRL as well.

>> No.69833200

>>69833105
Jealous of the money, numbers, and favoritism. Duh

>> No.69833217

>>69833101
Here's something to ponder - if Pomu graduated a month later, the black box video would have been on her channel and she'd have been the one reading the script.

>> No.69833225

>>69831314
>stock falls too low
>shareholders pull out
>Upper Jap management throws a fit
>fires all of EN management, Elira, Ike, Vox and anyone else involved
>EN gets dissolved into main branch and there are mass graduations
>Niji doesn't bother with EN market ever again
you're right OP, it will all work out in the end

>> No.69833235

>>69833011
Sorry for the hot take but if one of my coworkers tried to kill themselves over harassment I'd be giving info to a major news outlet.

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>>69833011
>How? She's not talking about the drama at all, which is what a grown up would do after leaving their employer
This. She already made that one tweet when she learned about Selen's termination. That's enough for me, I don't want to see her getting dragged into this mess.

It's not like the public opinion is against Doki anyway, Pomu doesn't need to put a target on her back.

>> No.69833271

>>69833225
Nijisanji needs to grow to please the shareholders, so even if the kill NijiEN they'll have to try again.

>> No.69833269

>>69833099
Hanamori wasn't a real vtubing agency or anything like that though, just an unofficial group. It's just an interesting (((coincidence))) though that some of Hanamori like Uki and Shu ended up at NijiEN.
Oh and I guess it's also interesting I guess that Shouto ended up leeching off NijiEN as hard as they did due to apparently having ties to Hanamori.

>> No.69833293

>>69833235
Well, good, but most people would not

>> No.69833294

>>69833101
>>69833217
there's no chance in hell Pomu would have agreed to it, she'd have let herself get terminated too if it came to that
in fact I'd bet the Selen situation was actually a large factor in why she graduated anyway

>> No.69833332

>>69833217
I honestly can't imagine that happening. This is the same Pomu that got so feed up with management that she decided to quit. There's no fucking way she would have agreed to doing that.

>> No.69833354

>>69832816
It's funny that people start to draw that comparison, basically seeing Elira as "Hitler if he was a bad guy"
>>69832924
>Is Pomu really just a coward?
She's professional and had the opportunity to leave without drama. That's not a bad thing, especially if she wants to stay a corpo within... a different agency.

>> No.69833372

>>69833271
Considering that Nijisanji brought back VTA, I think it's something they're already preparing for. They'll milk JP for all its worth and nuke EN from orbit, it's no longer worth the risk or bad press.

>> No.69833381

>>69833332
i don't think she would have had a choice, if it had gotten that far.

thankfully she's out, and this didn't happen. I'm just happy she seems to be happy.

>> No.69833424

>>69831314
Embrace the hate, become the industry's greatest heel.
It worked for Dwayne Johnson, it worked for Steve Austin, it worked for Roman Reigns.
House of the Dragon season 2 is coming, time to step up queen.

>> No.69833425

>>69832924
Pomu submitted her graduation all the way back in July.

>> No.69833469

She'll be a giga ultra megawhore when the leash comes off.
Like
Just gagging on dildos while vtubing so her paypigs can hear the glk glk.

>> No.69833479

>>69833154
I wonder if Elira's current role was the natural evolution of that. Like, EN's managers saw that prior experience and assumed it would be fine to offload some tasks on to her, to let her take that "mediator" role

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>>69833294
>>69833332
>there's no chance in hell Pomu would have agreed to it
If you asked the famelira they'd have told you the same thing, before the stream. And we all know Pomu never caused an internal ruckus, she left quietly, on good terms, never raising an objection. Despite knowing everything going on behind the scene.
You know she'd do it. A black screen and her voice on it.

>> No.69833485

>>69832741
Based hopeful paragon Anon. It ain't gonna happen, but keep uo the optimism.

>> No.69833631

>>69833381
>i don't think she would have had a choice, if it had gotten that far.
I mean, there's a big difference between Pomu and the other livers: she is a grownass adult. They CAN'T force the talents to that kind of shit. They only can pressure them into thinking that they don't have any other choice. If someone from management tried to make Pomu read that statement, she could have just called her lawyer.

>> No.69833652

>>69833101
If it were my oshi, I dunno. I wouldn't turn on her but I wouldn't be going full white knight either.

If anything, I'd get off on the idea that my oshi was actually an evil villainess the whole time

>> No.69833668

>>69833482
How the he'll did they get Eeke on that video anyway? A blowie?

>> No.69833685

>>69832924
Pomu wants to keep everything as amicable as possible so that her CV remains clean. The companies that likely care about track records the most are JP companies which means she is aspiring for Hololive or at least Brave Group (V4mirai or Vspo EN), but don’t count out Vshojo yet because they are a reliable fallback in case she gets a resounding and final “no” from both companies.

>> No.69833694

>>69833631
>I mean, there's a big difference between Pomu and the other livers: she is a grownass adult
This, she's the only one, even among the adults, that had an actual career and extensive experience in the real world of employment and entertainment.

>> No.69833696
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69833696

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDragon

>Every good villain could use a sidekick. Just like The Hero has The Lancer, this character is the main villain's right-hand minion, their closest confidant (or something akin to it), frequently acts as their Foil, and may be seen working as the front-liner of the evil forces to personally carry out their master's orders as one of his most dangerous and competent subordinates. Sometimes the Dragon is the most active threatening villain in the story, which makes them The Heavy, while their boss makes orders from the shadows.

>While the Dragon may be paired with a Big Bad, that does not make them a Big Bad Duumvirate, which requires the villains to be equals. However, a Duumvirate can have one or more Dragons of their own.

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>>69831442
Yacht salesmen

>> No.69833808

>>69833294
>she'd have let herself get terminated too if it came to that
Think about all that shit from her denied 3D which was given to Elira to the cut Metal Gear stuff.
She was obviously extremely frustrated by Niji and I wouldn't be surprised if she was really close to termination herself.
>>69833482
Elira is Niji EN's prime bully and Pomu was in a similar situation to Selen. This would have been the last straw to make her leave no matter the consequence.
Elira has always been Niji's favourite as far as we know so I wonder why anyone is surprised

>> No.69833865

>>69833482

It still would have been on Elira's channel because it was Elira's stupid ass idea in the first place.

>> No.69833955

>>69831314
Did you swallow all?

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>>69833482
>famelira
Pomu wasn't part of the "family" the way you think she was

>> No.69834020

>>69833668
Would it really be surprising at this point considering the state of NijiEN? Ike off collabed with Enna and Millie at one point, maybe they really would offer him a blowjob in exchange for defending the company.

>> No.69834087

>>69833865
Not to mention how management has been pushing Elira as the "face" of NijiEN since debut, despite her not having done anything to earn placement as such. (Well, until now I guess, albeit in a very negative way)

>> No.69834145

>>69833808
>Pomu was in a similar situation to Selen
I wouldn't go that far, Pomu has always been a professional shit eater. No matter how many times management shat on her, she always took it like a champ, shut the fuck up and just keep on going. The clique probably made fun of her in private for trying so much and failing so hard, but I'm sure they didn't really care for her. Last year Pomu finally accepted that her career in Niji hit a dead-end, and decided to quit in the most amicable way.

Selen and Zaion were just a pain in the ass for the brand.

>> No.69834348

Millie is just a retard right?
Does anyone believe she has the braincells to feel malice

>> No.69834370

>>69834145
>I'm sure they didn't really care for her
Pomu was one of the big 3 girls of Niji EN next to Enna and Selen. I'm sure that Elira boiled with jealousy and I wouldn't be surprised if she personally urged management to shit on Pomu.

>> No.69834384

>>69833961
Anon, famelira is the name of Elira's fanbase.

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>Hopeful and creative streamer stops trying because of hostile work environment and friends getting harassed and bullied
Imagine being a sane, well adjusted person inside NijiEN just trying to live your plucking life and a den of snakes built itself around you

>> No.69834432

>>69832230
>>69831314
This is a “stealth” leaks discussion thread by the way

>> No.69834485
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>>69833652
this is me right now, fully embracing it all with a hard dick

>> No.69834542

>>69833668
>>69834020
They also had Vox on board, and he had prior interactions with Selen too. He could've been convinced by them to jump aboard and play the supportive role to their claims. That would explain why he was there even though he didn't have much to add.

>> No.69834611

>>69834087
this reminds me of how butthurt some Elira fans were seeing that Pomu was in the center of the artwork for the Virtual To Live weather balloon project.

>> No.69834682

>>69834020
is that why he was lubricating his mouth?

>> No.69834709

>>69832509
>he was surprised the latina women was into gossip and bullying others especially a fat girl

>> No.69834737

>>69831314
You can’t win. Losing is the better option.

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>>69834398
>get in Nijisanji EN
>be a somewhat decent person
>your soul gets twisted because Riku is the closest thing to an IRL cartoon villain and every branch he ever made turns into a cesspit of bullying, harassment and complacency
Nuking the branch is the best thing that could happen to these girls.

>> No.69834753

>>69834542
Vox is a such dramawhore. He was eating that shit up.

>> No.69834820

>>69834611
the audience reflects the streamer. they wanted her to have pomu's success and recognition so badly that they became petty bitches just like elira herself

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>>69834145
I think what he meant was that Pomu was just as driven as Selen, but put up much less of a fight when faced with rejection. If you've worked jobs where you're the only standout in a group, it can make the rest hate you for making them look lazy by comparison. I think that's essentially what it came down to with Selen/Pomu and the rest.

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>>69833696
>There is a power struggle for their master's attention
>One dragon breaks free from the Big Bad
>The other dragon continues to serve their master
2024 year of the dragon war

>> No.69835019

>>69834745

You don't have to be cartoon villain, just too cheap to hire impartial adults to keep people in line.

>> No.69835024

>>69834398
>>69834745
Rosemi 1.0 and Rosemi 2 are both so sweet and I hope that they can leave this black company as soon as possible. It is, however, pretty difficult to leave an abusive workplace.

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>>69834913
>Betrays company for their own good
>Is killed by her old comrades
>Turns into a fucking bird
Selen
Elen
Eren

>> No.69835173

>>69834913
One dragon "dies" and reincarnates as a golden bird, kicks rebellion into overdrive
Dragon and Phoenix motif
This year's worked shoot is fuckin Kojima.

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But not for you!

>> No.69835274

>>69833293
That's not an excuse for them being cowards.

>> No.69835285

>>69833097
Yeah it is

>> No.69835317

>>69835024
If what the leaks from last thread are true, then they might be stuck in Niji for over an year at minimum.

>> No.69835333

If the leaker is real its Shu. Its a dude for sure and the only people I can imagine typing like that are Shu or Fulgur. My money is on Shu just to him finally manning up and realizing he will never be with Elira.

>> No.69835350

>>69835274
90% of people are to be fair, especially women

>> No.69835394

>>69834753
He's also a pedophile.

>> No.69835433

>>69834892
Yes, basically. But it's less about "not fighting back" and more about "keeping your CV clean" as other anons stated. Sayu and Doki might have no other chance but to go indie - Pomu could always aim to join Cover instead which is just another JP corpo.
She was an OL before and treated her situation exactly like this.

>> No.69835457

>woman is given a position of Responsibility after complaining for years people underestimate her and that she's a boss bitch too
>hires all of her retarded tumblr friends from the gay guy who wants to fuck white guys/hates white guys who don't want to fuck him to the insane flip girl to Enn* and the london loli lover
>proceeds to redistribute company funds to her projects, such as an expensive apartment in a trendy city and away from other talents
>makes sure she gets all the merch deals, or her close friends
>actively fucks over her 'sister' and 'best fairy pal' out of seethe that they're more popular than her and her friends
>pretend to be a victim, people are mean!

>> No.69835459

>>69834370
That's only a "recent" development.
Elira used to be the biggest before (I don't remember when exactly Pomu passed her, one year ago?).
I think it's too reductive to say that Elira was jealous of Pomu. To the point of sabotaging her like that anyway. I'd sooner conclude JP management was just absolutely autistic, and at most, Elira didn't help when she might have been able to.

>> No.69835500

>>69835173
I feel like Doki is like an extroverted Ame
What are the chances the Kiara becomes a gosling for her

>> No.69835580

>>69835459 (me)
Biggest in Lazulight*
Before some dipshit corrects me.

>> No.69835662

>>69835333
>When the espionage shit is just the romance subplot.
Roru

>> No.69835676

>>69835500
>What are the chances the Kiara becomes a gosling for her
Doki doesn't produce any content Kiara is going to be interested in. Apex? Kiara plays JRPGs. Tournaments? Kiara plays single player games. Singing? Doki isn't on the level Kiara is interested in.

>> No.69835693

>>69832973
could you elaborate anon? i really don't want to watch niji streams

>> No.69835718

>>69835333
It's better to focus on the message, rather than speculating on who it is.

>> No.69835731

>>69835433
That's still not fighting back and being okay with covering up abuse in exchange for money.

>> No.69835756

>>69835676
I-is ame a good singer

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>>69835333
They will never figure out it was MEEEEEEEEEEE
HEHEHEHEHEHEHEEEE

>> No.69835787

>>69835459
>Elira used to be the biggest before
Pomu outperformed her already when the 1st VPs dropped, her channel was just smaller for a long time because YouTube fucked up. I blame the sand curse. Pomu had more viewers, bigger and more superchats and more merch sales basically from the get go.
And money speaks.

>> No.69835851

>>69835676
Yeah, Kiara is even more lame than me. And that's depressing.

>> No.69835870

>>69835459
It was over a year ago, it was back in mid-2022. And that was only in subcount. Things like ccv, donos, and general mindchair were in Pomu's favor even prior to that.

>> No.69835891

>>69835756
Yes, easily top 100 in hololive

>> No.69835937

>>69835394
Based on what???? He never said anything about this.

>> No.69835979

I like that elira is EXACTLY the kind of person I thought she was- the type to say it's not her fault her lesbian dance theory degree didn't get her a good job after college, but then when she gets power she immediately becomes a tyrant and then plays the victim/"it's not my fault" when it comes back to bite her. NEVER let irresponsible retards have power, let them live in the dirt.

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>>69835937

>> No.69836027

>>69835788
Yo Wosemi, when everything is finally done and NijiEN lies in ashes, please make your final post on youtube be:
ROSEBUD

>> No.69836115

>>69835787
>>69835870
Oh yeah, never watched total dono and merch numbers, I was only talking about subs, thanks for the context. That being said, I still believe my last sentence.

>> No.69836166

>>69835731
Hence her guilt.

>> No.69836209

>>69834542
He was there because he was scared to shit that he was recorded saying "KILL YOURSELF YOU YELLOW BITCH!".

>> No.69836283

Someone post the Revolver Luca image

>> No.69836329

>>69835788
Rosemi don't you have some preparation to do?
Having Selen in your intro might have made people a bit suspicious

>> No.69836398

>>69832983
Lmao, wtf is this revisionist shit that Nina wasn't a bitch

>> No.69836467

>>69833685
Brave Group is looking good right now.

>> No.69836469

>>69835937
Search for ''Caution on Vox Akuma's past actions'' first result might be a link to an archive of a Tumblr post compiling his actions before he joined Nijisanji. Tried to put the link in here but the system treats it as spam.

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>>69835984

>> No.69836553

>>69833235
Lmao congrats. No one will care that you have a mentally ill coworker

>> No.69836563

Reminder that one of nina's reasons for leaving was because "i can't do as many projects as the others" and this could be throwing shade/shaming selen as much as a jab at her own projects not going through the elira block.

>> No.69836598

>>69836553
Blizzard....

>> No.69836624

>>69836398
>>69836563
kys Enna

>> No.69836647

>>69836553
Okay nijjer.

>> No.69836671

>>69835580
Only because Pomu kneecapped her early growth because of surgery hiatus. Elira had the model buff, which never carries for long (see Petra for another NijiEN example). I can't make any guarantees, but I suspect Pomu would've passed her sooner without that break. Even pre-Metal Gear arc, her content was always more varied and interesting.

>> No.69836926
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What if all the retarded nijisister/ndf posts are just Elira and gang trying their best at grassrooting and failing miserably

>> No.69836935

>>69836563
Reminder that Matara talked about how shit niji management was. Guess who was pseudo-managing it.

>> No.69837013

>>69832835
all rrats are true until disproven
And even if it's a larp, it's still better written than anything any sisters came up with

>> No.69837064

>>69836115
As an autist myself, I wouldn't outright call it autistic, but I get your point. They propped her up as their face which was a role she did not fit. Pomu filled that role and then Selen as well.

>> No.69837085

>>69836926
Most of them are terminally online, so this isn't as far-fetched as it sounds.

>> No.69837094

>>69836926
Tracks with the leaker saying that they are in a perpetual seethe over Selen.

>> No.69837143

>>69835756
she improved a lot, her progress is actually impressive.

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>>69837013
My oshi nearly died last time I dismissed a rrat.

>> No.69837239

>>69836926
Do you think they attack their coworkers that aren't part of the clique too?

>> No.69837341

No, seriously, why didn't they just shut up?

>> No.69837369

Is it even possible to get people to go against Doki in a believable way?
Seems like EN members seething are fighting a losing battle

>> No.69837429

>>69837341
They are manchildren and womanchildren. They were having a tantrum over failing to get what they wanted.

>> No.69837440

>>69831314
did something happen or did you bots just drum up bullshit again?

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>>69837440
>you bots
beep boop perform end life

>> No.69837601

>>69837369
No. Only SEAs and Japs think it's fine to drive people to suicide.

>> No.69837756

>>69837369
I feel like Selen had a lot of feelings that she took to her technical grave.
They won't be able to get her to say anything about the past

>> No.69837909

>>69837369
At the moment? No, she has too much sympathy going for her.

>> No.69837945

>>69837369
If the leaks are to be believed, they are counting on Kyo to convince flesh streamers to spread their adultered version of the story, it may have already started since 39daph (friends with Kyo) was shitting on Selen some days ago.
If they get a big number of streamers to divulge this version, they could win by the rule of ''majority is right''.

>> No.69837961

>>69837440
See >>69832292

>> No.69838011

>>69834348
Have you never followed politics? There's a lot of low IQ people with a capacity for evil and manipulation.

>> No.69838061

>>69837945
>Kyo really was the "they expect one of us in the wreckage" of the entire operation.

>> No.69838216

>>69836926
considering their grassroots effort consisted of 39IQ, I can believe this

My stupid ratt is that Kyo has had enough shit or Enna isn't putting out any more, that he wanted to leave. To make sure the clique thinks he's still with them, he'll get one of his influencer friends to slander Selen. However, he purposefully picked Daph to do it because he knew she'd say something really dumb, thus making Niji look even worse.

>> No.69838233

>>69837945
You know what, I hope that little asshole does try to slander Doki in his vtuber redebut.
I want to see the videos of asmongold, gamer from mars, moist, etc, dunking on him when he does.

>> No.69838452

>>69837369
Initially it was a mexican standoff, both sides were on an equal field but doki had more vtuber “grassroot” support initially.
In the confusion, nijisanji went full schizo thinking she will draw the gun first, so they decided to fire a preemptive warning shot, missed, and hit the sheriff and their legs.

They are out of options, the only thing still holding this piece of shit of a company are emergency PR disaster team putting out the flames, and JP management duct-taping whatever brand value they have left. They would have the chance to “debunk” her suicide attempt at least on 4chan, and let the rrat cook themselves, but now, it is far too late. Especially when the livers decided to run their own PR stunt by making their moral “concerns” more dubious than IDF, or a white man bad rant while their employer is still being lit with kerosene. They’re utterly fucked. Everyone is heading to the lifeboats, or forced to strap themselves in for the iceberg.

They really are schoolkids who think schoolkids social engineering still works at this scale.

>> No.69838472

>>69837239
Didn't they cut Selen of from the one manager that supported her? They 100% do

>> No.69838481

>>69833025
Green Woman would fuck the bully out of Elira and then fire her.

>> No.69838514

>>69838472
I meant on 4chan

>> No.69838727

>>69832580
such convenient coincidence

>> No.69838807

>>69837945
How do they expect to undo narrative set by dramatube? It's completely delusional to think the B listers and under are going to turn the ship around

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>>69836926
Consider pic related. We all know Mumu is dragging her stupid sexy latina ass to vt every day to shitpost and numberfag.

>> No.69838908

>>69838814
Reimu is the best nijisanji and that image is photoshopped.

>> No.69838913

It's too late to start a smear campaign. Everyone will know something's up, simply because of the timing. While they might not blame any organ specifically, they're going to blame Niji and treat anything coming out skeptically. They should've started 6months ago.
39IQDaph was a test run and that was a complete disaster. Everyone saw through it, and even worse people started asking questions - like how does she know and what has she seen? Shit that could cause legitimate legal problems.

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>>69835788
Rosemi trying to be secret in her outreach to the fans/public by trying to imitate her more articulate peers is a really cute thought. The brand she has built well for herself is why she was in my top 3 Nijis with Pomu and Selen. I almost feel bad she and Petra are caught between two waves with problematic actors. I hope they either get out to seek better opportunities or Anycolor restructures to focus on EN livers like them with all the support they need.

Obsydia w/o Selen >>> Lazulight w/o Pomu

Nothing management or Elira & co does will ever change that. Though they better not try shit on either Rosemi or Petra. You read me, NijiEN stooges? I know at least one of you is around!

>> No.69838958

>>69831314
It'll work out because she'll be out of work.

>> No.69839050

>>69838958
JP still thinks that she can do no wrong. They'd probably fire everyone else before even thinking of getting rid of elira.

>> No.69839074

>>69831314
Don't care at all about Doki. I just strongly prefer my comfy vtubers to be professionals, and it's a major turnoff when they're publically catty. If she's to continue being a leader figure in the EN branch, she needs to she needs to show some accountability and growth. Whatever the fuck that black box stream was, I need to be assured that she understands why it was a terrible idea before I give her content the time of day again.

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>>69838908
Shut up Reimu and show your ass

>> No.69839157

>>69839050
Given the shit I've seen some of the stockholders say I doubt that. They were willing to fire their biggest female liver because they refused to let her use retired talents. They will absolutely fire Elira if they deem her to be part of the problem. And given the fact that she is the defacto leader of the clique or atleast one of the main conspirators, she will either be heavily limited in merch and voice packs or she will get forced to graduate Yugo style.

>> No.69839168

>>69838807
If they get a big number of streamers then many could see it as a indication that the truth was different than what they assumed, and since people wanna side with the majority to look like they have the ''right'' ideas, then there's the possibility that the narrative will be turned around.

>> No.69839313

>>69837945
But Daph was caught immediately and how the fuck is a wigger like Kyo going to convince anyone big
Bigger than Charlie and Asmond

>> No.69839320

>>69832973
>4ch
I've only ever seen sisters on other sites typing it like this.

>> No.69839503

>>69838814
>/vt/
>W
As the 1st OP of /wose/, I feel honoured that Reimu browsed my Rosebud general.
I haven't watched Rosemi in a long time and I hope that she may leave Niji EN as soon as possible.

>> No.69839510

>>69839313
I don't know, but that is their plan after all.

>> No.69839548

>>69839503
what is warosu

>> No.69839550

>>69839503
>Reimu is the roseschizo
imagine

>> No.69839559

>>69839503
The W may be for Wactor.

>> No.69839608

>>69839313
I wonder if the remaining nijjers are so disconnected from the rest of the world that they don't realize all the biggest streamers are against them. Who can Kyo know that is bigger in the normie sphere than those two?

>> No.69839612

>>69831314
Elira you're a whore, graduate now

>> No.69839653

>>69839313
>Bigger than Charlie and Asmond
They don't get that normalfag dramatubers unrelated to the dark corners of the Vtubing space covering means that it's already too late.
An audience that newer knew or cared about Vtubers just learns that
>Niji bad
and there is literally nothing they can do about it.

>> No.69839691

Elira is /here/ and she made THIS thread to be comforted by simps on /vt/.

>> No.69839706

saviorfags, can you rise to the occasion?

>> No.69839769

>>69839691
Elira can go fuck herself

>> No.69839772

>>69839706
she doesn't want to be saved

>> No.69839812

>>69833424
I've saying this for a while. Fuck it, just turn heel, there are enough masochist retards willing to get their wallets drained and /freak/ chuubas to collab with.
You'll pretty much become non-grata to collab for the bigger circles, but it'll be enough to keep investors and yachtman satisfied.

>> No.69839829

the only play I can see for Elira is to claim she didn't want to do the black screen stream but management forced her to, it might not fix everything but it could take some heat off her and back onto management

>> No.69839850

>>69839608
I imagine that they might be trying to build connections with people like Hasan.

>> No.69839866

>>69838943
Got it, next black screen stream is on Petra's channel.

>> No.69839921

>>69839691
Wiwa we love you, come back soon!

>> No.69839980

>>69839850
impossible, hassan would not be pro-corpo

>> No.69839984

>>69839866
>petra
I have a feeling she would actually end herself if she's forced to do it.
She probably has one of the worst mental state of the whole branch right now.

>> No.69840074

>>69839984
I want to save Petra. She deserves better.

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>>69831314
There is no narrative that you can push. Selen is a "BPD" menhera, she was the mastermind who brought down NijiEN, or the "both sides" argument. Whatever, it does not change the fact that NijisanjiEN is dead. All of your "livers" will be gone by the end of the year. Vox and the others are going to be out of a job. Meanwhile, Hololive EN, other corpos, and Dokibird will live on and there is nothing you can do about it sisters.

>> No.69840188

>>69839829
It would lead to her termination and leave her without work in Japan. She's the queen beetch of Niji EN and it shows. She's the Big Bad here and this means she herself has to change. This, however, will never happen becauae Westoid womemes like her are rotten to the core.
The only way out would be investors giving Anycolor heat since they 1) might realise who causes those problems 2) don't care about Elira since she's not as profitable as Niji wants her to be, unlike Selen or Pomu

>> No.69840236

>>69838814
>playboard
How is Reimu so obsessed with numbers but still one of the worst shitters of niji?

>> No.69840308

>>69832741
>Was a snake in her past life
>Became a snake in Nijisanji
She won't learn shit.

>> No.69840349

>>69839980
I can see the clique trying and failing or in a twist of fate succeding somehow.

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>>69838908
No, it's not.

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>>69839691
Elira if you need a good simp to degrade and bully i'm here for you

>> No.69840410

Elira please do everyone a favor and kill yourself.

>> No.69840429

>>69832924
Pomu is happy. Happy being a Hololive fan

>> No.69840432

>>69832580
Holy shit, why did nobody tell me Enna was that based?

>> No.69840474

>>69832292
I'm checking this out and on the off-chance they're in here I just want to say
>>69825120
>I don't think I will go back to streaming after this.
I'm sure that would be a real shame and your fans would love to see you back as soon as possible, regardless of whoever you are. Don't let the unfortunate hostility of this situation get you down and push you away from doing something you're clearly good at and enjoy.

>> No.69840479

>>69832827
>didn't realize
I don't buy this line because Reimu literally laughs about getting hate when she was interrupting Vox's fujo pandering stream on purpose. Reimu has always been malicious in her actions

>> No.69840521

>>69836926
This is very likely to be the case. Enna flat out said on the secret GC stream
>hi 4channers she is /here/
Over a year ago. Do not be surprised that talents lurk here, 4chan isn’t a secret space on the internet and it hasn’t been for about 2 decades. That said, it’s more likely that they gave up and are planning some gay ops on the sister’s doxx site.

>> No.69840576

>>69840376
>W
Reimu no. #1 Wactor fan?

>> No.69840757

>>69840576
It's warosu. Reimu is obsessed with egosurfing on 4chan.
As expected of a mean bitch who's part of the clique

>> No.69840764

>>69840576
That's waruso. So not only does is she /here/, she also checks the archives.

>> No.69840790

>>69839691
I will only comfort her through multiple spite dickings and orgasms. And despite the spite, the sleep she gets afterward will be the most restful and comfortable sleep she has gotten in these past two months. I guarantee it.

>> No.69840879

>>69840757
>>69840764
Thanks.

>> No.69841561

>>69833243
That's a funny pic. Mind if I share it?

>> No.69841667

>>69839691
>Elira is becoming Mel
I doubt it but a funny rrat nonetheless

>> No.69842057

>>69840432
Anon, your reading comprehension...

>> No.69842447

>>69839691
Elira, if you're /here/, and I know you are you pathetic bitch, you need to go full throttle and embrace the darkness.
Just full tilt into the evil villainess stuff. Your career is over anyway if you try to play up the Nice Girl Next Door shit. Everyone's seen your true colors and your past has already been dug up and exposed. It's either become a full-time heel or get into JAV ASMR or both

>> No.69842479

>>69835937
lol don't bother anon, it's a waste of time, it's all fake and very well documented at that, even the original post was deleted along with the whole blog from the op. There's this one /here/ that gets off on thinking about children so they have to create a scape goat

>> No.69842591

>>69842447
Have you seen her? I don't think there's going to be much of a demand for her in JAV.

>> No.69842602

>>69840521
doxx site has already compiled a list of artists to black list for saying they won't do Niji stuff anymore, so perhaps :(

>> No.69842643

Elira if you're/here/ just know the truth will set you free.

>> No.69842665

>>69842591
Guess she'll be the first official Niji on Chaturbate, then.

>> No.69842720

>>69842602
The doxxsite sisters blacklisting artists will have the same effect as teenagers in the West boycotting Israel.

>> No.69842830

>>69832670
I unironically believe your rrat about her tanking him on purpose, she always struck me as the spiteful type.

>> No.69842952

>>69831314
One day we will be rid of NijiEN and the clique, amen

>> No.69843246

>>69842720
Unironically true

>> No.69843317

>>69832580
>reimu routinely induces fat livers to kys

>> No.69843661

>>69843317
Fulgur…to be fair this may actually happen too how Reimu and Uki hate people for being HUWITE

>> No.69843841

>>69843317
tbf saying "you are fat kys" is not taboo in most spanish speaking countries. A lot of Reimu's failure is due to her not adapting her speaking manerism for an EN audience.

>> No.69845710

>>69833961
Don't make me ship Pomu and Selen even more than I already did ffs.

>> No.69846165

>>69843841
What do you mean by "not taboo"?

>> No.69846632

I love you Elira.

>> No.69847115

>>69842591
Masks are often pretty villainous, especially partial ones.

>> No.69848156

JAV debut when?

>> No.69848803

>>69832580
>An attempt........ lmao
Yeah she's a bitch like the clique

>> No.69849032

>>69837237
I told you stupid niggers and you didn't believe me!

>> No.69849132

>>69833482
That’s not true. It’s impossible.

>> No.69849231

>>69837369
At this point, no. The astroturf attempts /here/ have failed critically, and the only allies they have left are a doxsite that even most people /here/ don't know by name, and some two-bit fleshstreamers that have been shat on by anybody with even an ounce of credibility.
The only winning move at this point is to take the loss and hope the next round isn't as bad.

>> No.69849405

>>69832580
this is the type of person that Nerissanji drags into the walled garden

>> No.69849433

Elira, I love and support you even more knowing who you really are. You should embrace being a hot villainess it fits you so well

>> No.69849463

>>69832713
Singers are narcissistic so yeah of course
Good persons play bass, drums, and other support instruments like viola if you want another example

>> No.69849521

>>69831314
I hope she gets fired from Nijisanji, can't get into another corpo or hack it as an indie due to her horrible reputation, is too prideful to downgrade back to living with her parents and ends up becoming an AVtuber to pay the bills.
Here's hoping it really does all work out in the end.

>> No.69849617

>>69833217
If anything Niji would have had to post a second termination letter

>> No.69849845

>>69837369
I don’t think going against Selen was ever a winning strategy. They could have had a non-adversarial "she misunderstood a lot of things as harassment or mistreatment that weren’t, but we’re sorry that we didn’t notice she was miserable until it was too late to prevent a lot of pain for her and the end of our professional and personal relationships. We hope she is able to thrive as an independent streamer.” message which might limited the damage to the company and the livers’ reputations.

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>>69837237
I hope Eliscariot enjoys her 30 pieces of silver. The sooner their Mama learns of what she did, the better. She doesn't deserve that model.

>> No.69850018

>>69849845
Basically this. You don't have to drag the other party to exclaim your innocence. Add to the fact the other party in this case was mentally unwell enough to take 2 attempts at puzzle solving, makes you look like a complete piece of shit, correct or not.

>> No.69850295

>>69843661
Dude, but Reimu IS white.
She's a spoiled white latina that pretends to not be white. In LATAM usually white people are the richest, yet when they move to an anglo country they like to pretend to be latina and a minority or whatever.

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>>69832772

>> No.69852932

>>69831314

>> No.69853286

>>69852932
Are you the faggot who bumped the Vivi post as well? Why?

>> No.69856672

>>69831442
me

>> No.69860542

>>69849936
I think Elira fits NPD rather than BPD more. specifically grandiose and vindictive narcissism

>> No.69861026

>>69860542
kek

>> No.69861652

>>69836926
We started hearing the term "dookiebird" here way before leaker-san confirmed it was a thing with the clique...

>> No.69862634

>>69861652
Yeah, and the niji supporters initially were using dramabird. It doesn't prove anything, but it is curious.

>> No.69862901

>>69860542
Why everyone nowadays puts on label of mental illness on everything?
You know anon, people actually are shit in 90% without any diagnoses.

>> No.69862923

>>69850018
i fucking hate (You) for making me laugh about sudoku again

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>>69861652
They could've just as easily picked it up from /here/ or that other site

>> No.69863136

>>69862928
That it could go either way proves how terminally /here/ NijiEN is.

>> No.69864481

>>69849845
Agreed, although personally I think their feelings were heavily clouded by whatever they read in that document and then they reacted emotionally rather than rationally.

We know that doki wrote some things that she later says were thoughts from her darkest time, so it's probably not pretty at all...

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>>69831314
I believe...

>> No.69866069

>>69850295
Reimu is not white

>> No.69866476

>>69860542
>Elira fits NPD
Since she's Niji EN's Hitler, I agree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Party_of_Germany

>> No.69866545

>>69831314
I hope she commits sodoku

>> No.69866608

>>69862928
This was Reimu's post. She is obsessed with 4chan and thought it would be funny to reference on Millie's stream >>69838814

>> No.69866753

>>69866608
You think Reimu is shitposting about Selen /here/?

>> No.69866855

>>69866753
all NijiENs are /here/ shitposting.

>> No.69866879

>>69866753
100% certain. Reimu even visits archive sites like warosu. She's definitely part of the niji defense force trying to do a smear campaign against Selen.

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>>69866753
Yes.

>> No.69867158

>>69849845
>she misunderstood a lot of things as harassment or mistreatment that weren’t
That's not at all how this works.
If it was perceived as harassment by Selen then it would still be seen as harassment by the public, unless we knew exactly what it entailed.
Every bully says "I didn't it was bullying" when they get caught.

>> No.69867240

>>69866753
>attempt.jpg

>> No.69867450
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69867450

How many times do you think the Niji members are typing up a storm on 4chan as we speak?
They have a lot more time to do so now and heck, it's anonymous damage control. What's to lose other than dignity? Not that they have much to spare right now, poor little buggers.

>> No.69869094

>>69867450
I'm extremely confident that at least 40% of NDF posts are Niji talents with more time than sense.

>> No.69869126

>>69835459
2022 CCV average was Selen > Enna > Pomu > Elira for the girls. Pomu had a 300 CCV leg up on Elira.

2023 CCV average was Selen > Enna > Nina > Pomu > Elira. Pomu had a 600 CCV leg up on Elira.
Nina's CCV average is out of whack due to graduating mid year during a year where the entire roster had a hard CCV decline. She only saw half of the decline.

In what era exactly are you trying to claim that it's recent?

>> No.69869539

>>69833482
Back to the dark side with you...
https://youtu.be/BpAIgtdOBxk
No way in hell Pomu would have gone through with it.

>> No.69869626

>>69833271
They'll just expand into China.

>> No.69869787

>>69867450
>>69869094
There are so many examples of talents doing references, shout outs, quoting and outright referencing shit going on both here and on reddit. They are here, they are watching - and they are posting NDF garbage along with the drones. I have no doubt.

>> No.69869840

>>69849433
Imagine if Elira came back with a hot villainess outfit and leaned into it. I'd respect it.

>> No.69870506

>>69837369
Even if they could, it wouldn't do them any good. The company will remain in the shitter, because in the end, it doesn't matter if Selen is a closet Nazi that tried to murder everyone in there, the response that put all their talents in danger and sank the company still wouldn't be justified.

But they STILL think their best bet is to defame Doki, because they are living in their own little reality - when the best thing they could possibly do would be to apologize to her while taking some sort of superficial effort to rectify the situation ("sensitivity training" or some shit), or better yet, if leaving the company, simply side with her.

>> No.69870673

>>69839691
I hope her plane get hits by a stray north korean missile on the way back

>> No.69870687

>>69869840
The image of Elira dropping that anime nice girl act and turning into a full heel sadist is kinda hot ngl. Doubly so if she then gets backstabbed by the other opportunistic bitches plus Vox and is forced to eat humble pie by the management in a climactic termination.
Imagine the kino if far into the future as she's shunned and left to rot, Doki of all people comes to forgive and save her.
Kojima and Martin couldnt write a more compelling tale.

>> No.69871040

>>69870687
It'd be great if it kicked off plotlines n' shit where everyone starts leaning into kayfabe. I want WWE style retarded backroom drama.

>> No.69871197

>>69867158
You have to keep in mind that she was already at her tipping point psychologically. Even small things can push people over the edge when they're already at the brink.

>> No.69871323

>>69871040
>It's all a worked shoot
FUCK RUSSO BOOKING AIEEEEEEEEEEE although it would probably actually save Nijisanji.

>> No.69871472

>>69842720
based analogy

>> No.69871536

how do we know reimu actually browses /vt/ though?

>> No.69871550

>>69871323
>although it would probably actually save Nijisanji.
It 100% would. Shit, look at DSMP. It was built on those retards' bad acting and drama. It made most of those creators' careers. If they were remotely better at acting than those retarded manchildren then it'd be a hit in a second.

>> No.69871727

>>69871550
The only problem I forsee is that people might find it exploitative of Doki's attempted suicide, but I guess they're fucked on matter what the optics are. May as well make the hail mary shot, rather than die seething in obscurity.

>> No.69872380

>>69869787
It's amazing how much pain they could've saved themselves if they just took the L

>> No.69873078

>>69831314
Well looks like riku is nuking her from existence.

>> No.69873174
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>> No.69873510

>>69873174
KWAB

>> No.69873709

>>69873174
who?

>> No.69873934

>>69873174
So somebody ripped her tweet history, right
Would be a shame if any dirty laundry was in there.

>> No.69873977

>>69831314
True, we will be rid of her soon enough.

>> No.69874104

>>69873174
She is in so much trouble, people are looking for her in person too.

>> No.69874203

>>69873934
apparently the account is closed check in twitter you will not be able to find ot

>> No.69874394

>>69874203
Wayback Machine still exists.

>> No.69875852

>>69832924
Selen/Doki said she wants to move on and leave it all behind. Pomu is the only one respecting that wish. So if anything the rosdewhore is a dramabaiting shitstain while Pomu is the only real friend Doki had in niji.

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>>69836926
This has already been established. Also remember Millie's groupchat stream.

>> No.69879270

>>69831314
It will not

>> No.69880407

>>69835212
Carlosssssss...
(holy shit i havnt seen that meme in a while)

>> No.69880425

>>69831314
I like Elira and I don't give a faq about the yabs. I don't need any stinky anons permission to like her.

>> No.69880944

WTF is Elira's next move here?
-Just show up to stream a game, set to 5day+ subs only chat to cut out fresh accounts, and let mods deal with spam?
-Actually address the stream?
-Fucking quit?
Can we actually quantify how much of those who unsubbed were her paying viewers? If just mainly free viewers stop watching, the impact is negligible (kek)

>> No.69880967

>>69880944
harikiri

>> No.69881086

>>69880967
my dyslexic ass can't spell

>> No.69881226

if you were stuck in niji, how would you get yourself terminated without getting sued?

>> No.69881304

>>69831314
It will end badly.

>> No.69881421

>>69881226
Be an open shotacon/lolicon.

>> No.69881553

>>69873174
This has been debunked many times and yet faggots keep posting it
You don’t need account squatters to make everything look bad, in fact it weakens your case.

>> No.69882132

>>69881226
Assuming they were still planning on streaming, lawyer up first and go over the contract with a fine-tooth comb, looking for outs.

Get in contact with as many outside friends as possible and build a safety net, ensure people are out there who can vouch for you.

Make a public statement using company and past life accounts that you find working with Nijisanji unconscionable, but are being held in an indefinite resignation queue with no further information given (organs seem to freely mention this enough).

Get a close friend/therapist to hold your hand and grit your teeth while you're terminated and the Nijisanji smear campaign commences. Put out a steadfast statement that you stuck to your guns and regret nothing, etc., but don't say anything specific that will expose you to further NDA action.

Get a positive appraisal by dramatubers, normie reacttubers, and the general public. Commence your streams surrounded by the friends you cultivated outside and make back any money you had to pay in fines easily.

You may never be allowed into a Japanese corpo again, but you've got your dignity and an comfortable audience as an indie. Maybe some Western companies might even take you on, if that's your bag.

>> No.69883309

>>69881226
At this stage why would they? Anyone there is marked as scumbags. Would they even get a comperable viewership if they left?

>> No.69884267

>>69867158
I think that was the intention of getting almost all the livers to cosign on the elira-vox-ike video. If they can't actually share details with the public due to consideration for privacy (lmao) then at least being able to say 'you know that a few of these people are Selen's friends and they're agreeing that it wasn't bullying' is intended to give some credibility to the claim. As it happened though, since the statement was so antagonistic, it has the opposite effect and just put into question the good faith of all the livers. If on the other hand it was a sympathetic and partially apologetic statement it might have had the intended effect and managed to actually be persuasive.
Also worth pointing out that the public isn't the sole audience of the video, Doki is too. She's expressed multiple times that she wants to put it in the past, and her final statement was a partial olive branch in that she acknowledged that there might have been some miscommunications during the contract termination negotiations. If the niji video statement was kinder to her and acknowledged that they failed her on some level, she might have been willing to go further and publicly bury the hatchet.
This is all conditional on the truth being closer to the Niji livers' side than to Doki's side of course, and that while Doki feels wronged she also feels in over her head with the whole thing and genuinely wants the public to move on and for both herself and her ex-coworkers to do well. If they all actually hated her and were secretly undermining her then that's a totally different story.

>> No.69885018

>>69881226
>if you were stuck in niji, how would you get yourself terminated without getting sued?
If you saved enough money, pay the fine for quitting early, whatever fine you paid to kurosanji it's worth the money before your career get tainted forever (assuming is a career worth saving).

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