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Now that the dust has settled.

ITT: We speculate about the next major V-Tuber graduations from any agency.

NOTE: This is about who you THINK will graduate not who you WANT to graduate (Ex Mori Calliope, Enna Alouette)

>> No.69808785

I have a feeling NijiEN is done with graduations for the time being. What's left of them are people who mostly side with the clique and I doubt Niji wants another PR blow. That's why Luca got away scot-free and Uki's yab is being treated as a nothingburger. Next big graduation will probably be from Idol. Pochi in particular seems done with this shit by now.

>> No.69808914

I've got a big case of gambler's fallacy so I vaguely think there won't be one this quarter.
Mayyyybe some legacy quasi-Indie(s) like HimeHina or such.
>>69808785
Why Idol? Didn't Pochi redebut super recently?

>> No.69808956

>>69808499
Kiara will graduate from Hololive and go to VSHOJO, where she'll finally be able to stream freely with her gf NotPomu

Good Ending

>> No.69808975

>>69808499
I wanna say the obvious ones like rosemi, scarle or uki because of the dramas and stress which is probably next month.

But honestly I don't think its not from niji, I think ame will graduate after the fes.

>> No.69809225

>>69808956
Kiara isn't hinting at being pissed at management and creating an exit path like she did around Coco's graduation. Terrible rrat.

>> No.69809315

>>69808956
Kiara will only graduate once Yagoo shuts Cover corp down in 2037.

>> No.69809328

>>69808956
>>69808975
Retard

>> No.69809454

>>69808499
My list (from most likely to least likely):

>Rosemi
>Elira
>Scarle
>Luca (termination because NDA breach)
>Vox

>> No.69809537

>>69809225
It's not a matter of good or bad management, anon. Wherever Pomu goes, that's where Kiara will go. The only reason Kiara didn't go to Niji EN is because that place is an absolute shithole on fire.

>> No.69809568

>>69809328
Buy a rope and become an hero, faggot

>> No.69809908

>>69808499
Does Miori Celeste count as major? Her situation is going down a similar path as Aloe.

>>69809537
She was allowed to collab with Pomu and she's collabed with Vshojos before. This rrat makes no sense.

>> No.69809924

>>69809537
They don't really restrict her collabs as much anymore but thanks for posting your retarded troll on 4chan's vtuber board

>> No.69810078

>>69808499
Scarle

>> No.69810111

>>69808499
>Now that the dust has settled.
nah

>> No.69810115

There were rumors of something about to happen at Niji EN on 2/23. If the rumor is true, expect a white paper in about 3 and a half hours from now.

>> No.69810187

>>69808956
Kiara is the tales of (her favorite franchise) ambassador and gets to play all those games early. Why would she abandon such a wonderful title?

>> No.69810941

>>69810078
This actually makes sense because all her paypigs she spends half the stream flirting with would follow her to the edge of the universe.

>> No.69811392

Realistically I think it would be Scarle, which would be good for her, but I think she's just been pushed to the back of the queue

>> No.69811444

>>69808499
Vivi but only because I think she deserves better

>> No.69811700

>>69808499
Elira, hopefully with 12 page list of crimes.
Inshallah.

>> No.69811850

>>69808499
elira. I'm not even joking. she has been gone since the black screen stream and it's not hard to imagine riku popped a blood vessel over the way she humiliated him so thoroughly to the filthy gaijins.
A termination right now is super-massive bad optics but forcing her to fall on her sword in return for a graduation that benefits both sides is likely.

>> No.69811896

Ina if it's not somebody from nijiEN

>> No.69811928

Elira being shitcanned would be a dream honestly
Always rubbed me the wrong way

>> No.69812042 [DELETED] 

>>69809537
Yea I'm sure she salivates at the thought of having to kiss mouse's rings and pretend not to hate her bf

>> No.69812073 [DELETED] 

>>69812042
>bf
wasn't she married? with a daughter too?

>> No.69812469

Noel seems close

>> No.69812506

>>69810187
>her favorite franchise
holy shit that bitch has bad taste

>> No.69812539
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>>69808499
i forgot this guy was even graduating, and i had to check when it was and it was a week ago? Time flies, also I couldnt even tell this happened.

>> No.69812603

>>69808956
Extremely unlikely since Pomu is coming to Hololive. Kiara's first real break during Pomu's departure is not a coincidence. Opsec explains why they haven't openly collabed with each other since.

>> No.69812733

>>69808499
High chance of Elira, and then Vox.

>> No.69812757

>>69808499
So many wanting to leave the sinking yacht, it's hard to tell. Entirely up to the graduation queue. Rosemi or Scarle first? Or another unexpected OG from NijiJP?

>> No.69812798

>>69808499
Niji EN. It's honestly hard to choose who would be next though.
Either they go ahead with the queue so Rosemi/Scarle are next or they decide it's the time to chop off some heads and Elira/Vox go.

>> No.69812839

>>69808499
How quickly did Niji absorb IN, KR, or ID? Was it instantly? If numbers don't go back up, should expect the same.

>> No.69812864

>>69808499
Mysta graduating right after Nina looked bad. Kyo graduating right after Pomu looked terrible. Selen's termination being in the middle of those two made it look fucking horrendous. If another one is going to graduate soon, that's going to be 4 livers in a row shot dead.
There's gotta be at least one person in NijiEN whose falling apart at the seams and wants to leave but can't because of the optics maybe. My guess is Scarle or Rosemi. Possibly Petra.

>> No.69812888

>>69808499
Nijisanji EN branch closes. But let's be honest, that's not a big graduation. They're a fourth rate streamer branch with fifth rate talent. I can see Pippa graduating because of health issues.

>> No.69812929

>>69808499
Do they have anyone with plans or ambitions left?
If so, that person.

>> No.69812961

Elira with the extremely detailed laundry list of petty crimes. You die by your own blade

>> No.69813051

>>69808499
Rosemi is next PLEASE

>> No.69813263

>>69808499
Right after receiving Selen's lawyer's letter, Riku may want to terminate whoever was responsible in the reckless termination notice. That was too quick for competent lawyers to do, without even allowing a negotiation to take place. 99% of lawyers prefer to settle without drama...that's what they are trained to do. Not let emotions rule. Same with the black screen slander.

>> No.69813308

>>69808499
>Holo
maybe Shion or Kronii
>Niji
Rosemi, Scarle and if you believe the rrats one of the guys
>Vshojo
Froot might stop streaming entirely

Not sure about phase and other small orgs

>> No.69813354

>>69808499
All I know is that pekora bought a monkey and it's still fucking alive

>> No.69813451

>>69810078
*sigh*

>> No.69813949

>>69808956
>Kiara will graduate from Hololive and go to VSHOJO, where she'll finally be able to stream freely
if she indeed is who I think she is, I hope she'll also become a part time fleshie like Kson because she's hot af

>> No.69814230

>>69813451
Sorry pretty boy, you will have to find a new victim soon. I nominate Victoria

>> No.69814359

>>69814230
I feel like she would legit beat him up IRL if he tried.

>> No.69814508

>>69808914
>Didn't Pochi redebut super recently?
Didn't stop Vesper

>> No.69814541

>>69814359
Well, at least there's a good chance it would get her terminated so she could escape skipping graduation queue

>> No.69814770

>>69814359
hot

>> No.69814771

Mumei pretty obviously doesn't want to do this anymore. I'd expect her graduation to happen within maybe three or four months. Most of pre-advent HoloEN seems burnt out with the job so there could be a few others on the edge of graduating along with her

>> No.69814942

>>69808499
Ahem
Nijisanji EN Graduation / Termination List
As confirmed by a Nijistaff member around New Year a mass exodus is defined by 2 things.
1. Has to occur within the same year, 6 in Dec, 6 in Jan doesn't count
2. Minimum of 10
To clarify with OP, I think Niji is going to burn in 6 months, staffer said a year but lets speed run this bitch
1. Pomu
2. Selen
3. Kyo
4. Elira
5. Vox
(4 & 5 is due to the investors wanting blood, staff has already pushed a them vs livers narrative and with the yab letting them tank the damage. You have your patsies. Niji JP international manager is protected.)
6. Scarle
7. Rosemi
8, 9, 10 are pending but with that many gone. It can only get worst.
This is still considering the half year time frame and their attempts to let graduations happen once a month. Niji finds a way!

>> No.69814990

>>69814942
Special mention to Luca who has consecutively gotten away with breaching NDAs.

>> No.69814992

>>69808499
It is most likely gonna be from nijisanji. I'm guessing they're just trying to delay the graduations because of this whole drama.. One that would most likely be graduating is Rosemi

>> No.69815071

You could even make Millie & Enna the soft terminations of 9 & 10. Luca is 8. Thus the branch is cleaned up for possible JP merger or complete restructure.

>> No.69815129

>>69813949
Yes, she is in fact Natalie Dormer.

>> No.69815162

>>69809908
There is a difference of getting to collab with someone after 3 months of corpo autism whenever the fuck you want.

>> No.69815250

>>69808499
Petra seems to be treating streaming as a side thing to whatever it is she's in college for so she'll either keep streaming as long as she's able to do both and graduate as soon as she can't reconcile the two.

Like other anons said, Scarle has a small audience of dedicated fans so she's probably the one with the least to gain from staying in Niji (dedicated fans would follow her as an indie and Niji can't help her grow her fanbase anymore).

Rosemi also feels like she has one foot out the door at this point, which in turn might push Petra towards graduation. Likewise, an Elira graduation might also push Finana. A scenario where we have a full Lazusydia graduation would unironically be the final death of NijiEN.

>> No.69815395

>>69808956
>Kiara will join Vshojo where she'll have much fewer opportunities than in Hololive just so she can collab with Pomu, which is totally unnecessary because she doesn't need to leave Hololive to collab with Pomu, and also Pomu is probably joining EN4 anyway
Anon, at least try to not be retarded.

>> No.69815727

>>69814771
Doubt any of them are leaving. cover has made it very clear that so long as you're available for the major events they're fine with people not doing regular streams after their first two years.
None of promise is going anywhere anytime soon. If they were ina would've been out the door last year.

>> No.69815966

>>69808785
If they are serious about cleaning up, they will need to get people to leave one way or another especially now the public has names and some want blood to flow before believing they can even support the company again. There's not really much Anycolor can do even if they do their own internal investigation as no one will trust them with their credibility in the toilet. The best way to do it is to hire a neutral third party to do the investigation, announce it as part of their shareholder meeting where they say this is how we are going to clean up the EN branch and get rid of people in one fell swoop. Even if it tanks the stock, it rips off the bandage all at once and is enough to stop shareholder pressure by assuring them their overseas expansion is still going according to plan since that is the only way the business is going to grow given Japan just lost their economic #3 seat to Germany and is in a recession and the yen is trash compared to other currencies. Anycolor could've made bank off NijiFes and it won't matter one bit for the upcoming shareholder meeting given how badly the situation has been handled, especially the dumb IR notice about Selen.

>> No.69816134

>>69808499
If NijiEN can't resist another yab, the whole branch might get shut down. Even if they do survive, I'd expect there's several people queued up for graduation and "graduation" (read: termination but they have to pretend it's just a regular graduation to save face).

>> No.69816171

All of you guys saying Elira just type your wishful thinking.
Elira is the Hitler of Niji EN, everything has to revolve around her, it's her clique, she got handed everything that Pomu and Selen were not allowed to have, I think about Pomu's first 3D in particular.
I wouldn't be surprised if Elira herself asked management to cancel this, I can see her being really jealous because Pomu and Selen were more popular.
Niji EN is her personal playground and the branch has to be terminated as a whole before she leaves.

>> No.69816234

>>69816171
It's not like Elira has a golden cooch. Nijisanji will sacrifice EN to save JPs reputation as an ultimatum.

>> No.69816282

I think Elira is next because Nijisanji wants to win back favor in the public eye. They're gonna sacrifice Elira to try and get good will back from audience and investors

>> No.69816324

>>69816171
Ellira is an angel you retarded jealous faggot.

>> No.69816379

>>69816282
I doubt it. Most investors probably don't anything about the internal politics, so more graduations right now would only freak them out more regardless of who it is.

>> No.69816453

>>69816171
There's no way the Nips are just gonna let her keep ruling the playground after she drove out two top performers and set the place on fire.

>> No.69816485

>>69816379
Nigger most investors will have a surface level understanding and they clearly understand what under performing is causing them to look into it.

>> No.69816558

>>69816324
Angel of Darkness, sure.

>> No.69816573

>>69816379
They prioritize a way to get things on track more, and if people have to be terminated/graduated for it to happen, they will take it but the stock price is taking a hit no matter what. It will drop more if they don't clean up but it is dropping regardless.

>> No.69816609

>>69816558
ha ha very clever nigger, but seriously you dookbird shitters need to stop trying to blame my fucking oshi for nothing.

>> No.69816717

>>69816609
I hope your oshi stays in Nijisanji forever

>> No.69816745

>>69816609
You are in for a rude awakening. It won't be long.

>> No.69816761

>>69816609
>my fucking oshi
obviously.
the audience reflects the streamer after all.

>> No.69816804

Depending on what happens on the financial reports of Anycolor released next month, Riku being graduated from his CEO position is not out of the question

>> No.69816840

>>69816745
>>69816761
I hope the lying bird bitch milks you fuckers for all you've got and then loses all that money in legal fees lmao

>> No.69816872

>>69816609
That's pretty close to the leaked nickname that the clique used.

>> No.69816986

>>69816804
Elira is going to go before Riku lets himself get kicked out. What would be funny is that instead of Vox it really is Luca as well.

>> No.69817030

>>69816840
The absolute irony of an Elirafag talking about other people getting milked by a lying bitch

>> No.69817230

>>69808499
>major V-Tuber graduations
>pic unrelated

>> No.69817971

>>69816804
The board of directors would have to do that and no one has enough control of the company to oust him given how much he owns. He can survive even a shareholder vote. The only thing that can oust him is criminal stuff happening like the dumb rrats that shouldn't happen in a public company about misappropriation and embezzlement of company funds that weren't accounted for properly if even he turned a blind eye to it.

>> No.69818302

>>69812539
It's funny because he announced it shortly before the Selen termination, and the resulting YAB afterwards completely overshadowed his departure

>> No.69818340

>>69808499
Next vshojo member. Fuck you Nina and Ironlung

>> No.69819077

>>69816171
As far as nijiEN local management is concerned you are right but the japs won't let her run the company into the ground forever. I still don't think they'll terminate her, but they will separate her from decision makers. She could pick up her ball and leave in response but she won't.

>> No.69819175

>>69808914
>Why Idol? Didn't Pochi redebut super recently?
She's clearly someone who doesn't enjoy what she was doing, but had deluded herself into thinking that "x" was the issue (in her case, the model). New model comes and goes and obviously she's just as menhera and flaky as ever.

>> No.69819227

>>69812506
>In the Year of Our Myth +4
>Still surprised the Europoor Weeb has bad taste
HOW?

>> No.69819273

>>69811444
She's there until October

>> No.69819314

>>69819175
>"I feel like no matter what I do, I'm second to someone else. Rin is more popular, Juna is sexier, Yuki and Fuyo are cuter. I'm the French Korone."

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>>69808956
I'm the biggest Kiara schizo. And as much as I wish this would happen. I know, NEVER, in a million years. It would happen. But god forbid it would

>> No.69819354

>>69808785
Uki's Yab is a nothingburger because white racism isn't seen as an issue

>> No.69820271

>>69812733
in the black screen vid he did say he considered graduating in solidarity
could be bullshit, but it might mean he's considered leaving

>> No.69820401

>>69818340
He's not gonna join Vshojo.

>> No.69820833

>>69814771
i actually doubt this very much
mumei herself has said if this was any other job she'd have quit long ago
cover is also super lenient, you can even decline to participate in events like ame did with the countdown live
also, this is the freest money in the world. Morale in EN is, acc. to Kiara, at an all time high.
Also this is just free money.
I dont think even kronii is actually genuinely done with holo just yet. give it a year or 2

>> No.69820952

>>69816171
>says elira is hitler
>forgetting that hitler an hero'ed when the war ended
>no, i dont believe the Hitler fled to Argentina rrat

>> No.69821096

>>69820271
He hasn't been streaming for a while, I wouldn't be surprised if he graduates this year

>> No.69821208

>>69819077
The only way Kurosanji doesn't terminate Elira is if she's literally fucking Riku. And even then it's questionable considering how badly she damaged the share price.

>> No.69821228

>>69821096
Remember that he got doxxed by his army of crazy chinese sisters, he wants to get the fuck out

>> No.69821400

>>69820952
>when the war ended
Yes exactly when the Soviets surrounded Berlin and not when they surrounded Stalingrad, so why should Queen Bitch fuck off *now* when Anycolor faced but neglible difficulties?

>> No.69821895

>>69819314
>I'm the French Korone
she fucking wishes.

>> No.69821948

>>69821228
Bet he regrets blowing all that money on his lore video.

>> No.69822208

>>69819314
Who is this bitch to insult Korone?

>> No.69822626

>>69814942
You are insane if you think investors are going to push to fire Vox. He is THE money maker in EN. I can totally see them axing Elira though. I feel bad for her because no one will want to take her on after what she pulled.

Right after moving to Japan too...

>> No.69822833

>>69821208
Riku is a multi millionaire. Elira is a 6 on a good day with a bunch of red rash shit on her face. Very unlikely, this isn't a 2bit scheme like WACTOR. He probably fucked Gundou though.

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>>69821948
I hope he does

>> No.69823344

>>69808499
Who's the right most in the last couple waves? That seems to be the pattern

>> No.69823356

>>69808785
Uki's been stealth suspended. He's "taking a break to self reflect. Because the world is cruel." As per the usual, he's the eternal victim.

>> No.69824751

>>69823356
Go white boy go white boy go

>> No.69826476

>>69808499

>> No.69826660

>>69819314
Mr. Koro gets more English viewers and she doesn't even speak the language.

>> No.69826982

>>69808499
Elira will never voluntarily leave NijiEN at this point. No other agency will ever touch her and she'd get obliterated if she ever tried going indie again.

>> No.69827361

>>69816840
OK but enough about Enna

>> No.69827490

>>69827361
Elira is way worse because she carefully crafted that image of a nice anime girl who doesn't do anything bad while Enna is more honest for she lets everyone know outright that she's a cunt.

>> No.69827551

>>69814359
A broken hand or two are always great at reminding sex pests their place
And Vivi sounds like one of the few people that would actually fucking crucify you if you try to offend her

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>>69827490
“The thing about Trish is that she admits that she was a bitch and if you confronted her about it she’d make a joke about it and soft confirm it.

Sable was a bitch but would never admit it”

Relevant quote. But I may have gotten the women backwards. It’s been a while and I’m too lazy to look up the actual shoot quote.

>> No.69829644

holo: ina but not any time soon
niji: elira, she probably gets a graduation
vshojo: they’re probably good for a while
phase: lumi
idol: pochi

>> No.69830151

>>69829644
Why Lumi?

>> No.69831545

>>69829169
You're right about Sable, but he was talking about Sunny in the first part if I remember correctly.

>> No.69831695

>>69809537
If kiara hates her current position she would have implied on her streams or on her PL account

She's nicknamed Kiara Holland after all :)))

>> No.69831809

>>69829169
Corni wtf are u doing here
Go back to wrecking the young bucks careers that's good business

>> No.69831883

>>69831545
Yeah I fairly remember too
Well sunny does admit it hell she has been the one between the Shawn and bret feud at one time

>> No.69832072

>>69831883
She was also openly fucking Shawn at shows while still with Chris Candido.

>> No.69832776

>>69812839
>IN
was rebranded to EN first and later rebranded back to IN when plans for an all new English speaking branch became more concrete. They all graduated at once in April 2021, days before Lazulight debuts.
>KR
Bled a lot of talents due to the legit and proven cliqué bullying controlled by one foul talent and bad to non-existent management before the leftovers were merged into JP.
>ID
Was merged with JP instantly, most former ID talents were let go throughout last year, specific reasons unknown, could be no contract renewal, worse conditions, non-existent management etc.

>> No.69833373

>>69809908
what happened with miori?

>> No.69833730

>>69829644
does vshojo even have graduations? the girls that leave just decline to renew their contract and continue streaming under the same IP

>> No.69834772

>>69819354
yeah cnn, cnbc and espn literally talks about it everyday on tv and nobody cares.

>> No.69834850

>>69822626
ill take her. i can fix her.

>> No.69835306

>>69832776
>>KR
their top talent left and joined vspo in a few months. 774s top talent also left and joined vspo in less than 24hrs.

>> No.69835392

seems like holoid is overdue for someone to leave. most likely ollie, but I could see almost anyone from gen 1 or 2 being gone at some point after fes.

>> No.69835618

>>69835392
where would she even go? vshoujo dont want no dirty muslim.

>> No.69835807

>>69808785
We can't say that with confidence until March

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>> No.69836150

>>69835392
Lofi seems like the least popular one out of the group

>> No.69836756

>>69829644
>>69811896

ok honest question. Why do people say Ina is an option?
What reason would she have and what else is she supposed to do once she leaves?

Her previous job was commission work as an artist but she can easily do that while being in Hololive if she wants.
She never seemed to have any issue with management or with co-workers.
She makes sure to keep in touch with her fans even when she isn't streaming through twittter posts or membership notifications.

And on top of all that she recently said in her press-the-button stream she's actually really happy with her life right now.

I really don't see any signs. Am I missing something?

>> No.69836961

>>69822833
I don't know. She pretty openly talked about picking up and fucking chicks on the reg at a lesbian bar and still maintained that she'd never done anything with a man even though she wouldn't be 100% opposed to it.

>> No.69837110

>>69808956
Kys

>> No.69837218

>>69811850
This

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In Niji it's Elira, or one of the newer Livers like Scarle or Victoria or Doppio or someone. Aka, people who joined this company not expecting it to instantly crash and burn

In Holo I will still stand by the fact that Gura is the next EN to go.
Her heart simply just isn't in vtubing anymore that at least is blatantly obvious.
She literally only "came back" again for her sponsor shit she had to shill (like usual), and for Valentines money.
Then she fucked off again.
Myth is getting outfits again soon though See Fauna and Mumei, and Kiara mentioned her 2023 outfit would be ready by May this year, so obviously she's coming back for that, but again that's another "obligatory" stream (also her Member's Cover she has planned).
But compared to everyone else she's has a foot out the door.

Kronii has been MIA too but she literally had surgery so I can't put her in the same boat

>> No.69838712

If the rumors are true and multiple people have requested to graduate, then they must make a big announcement and just graduate a big chunk all at once and get it over it with one go. You can't keep people hostage for months with these kind of conditions, you risk more leaks and bad publicity from the livers.

But I don't see how this branch can be saved to be honest. All the good streamers have left already/don't stream (cause reasons), waiting to graduate. Just sack this whole thing, admit defeat and failure and promise to start over in the future when you actually have the staff to support a EN branch

>> No.69838963

>>69836756
shes also heavily considering trying to live in japan for months at a time this year because of her having to go back and forth to japan for holo stuff.
>am i missing something
no you actually watch streams unlike the majority of this board

>> No.69841354

if the rumors about long graduation waiting periods and queues at niji are true then whoever's next may have put in the request before Selen tried to an hero.

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