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despite her best efforts kiara seems to be trailing behind. what can she do to catch up to her peers? she's already released TWO original songs in her short stay at hololive she has a talkshow, makes short meme videos, consistently reaches out for collabs, and continues to make contributions to the minecraft server. she even reincarnated once because of a youtube bug that killed her channel. she did a beautiful job with the kayfabe in the return stream and turned it into part of her character lore. so what else can she do? does she need a new outfit? a breakout meme?

>> No.696926

>>696903
>music made by someone else
>lyrics written by someone else
>MV edited by someone else
>not even her propper voice
"Original Kiara songs"

>> No.696942 [DELETED] 

>>696926
Take your meds and go to sleep, seanig.

>> No.697099

>>696903
Kiara is just being held back by her attention to others. She keeps helping give attention to her trailing senpais and letting them and Mori leech from her. If Kiara actually paid attention to her own numbers, she would have beaten Gura by now.
But as they say, it is lonely at the top. I'm sure Kiara is happy where she is. She may even slow down so Ina can catch up rather than allow her to be left in the dust.

>> No.697111

There's too much to dissect, and it could be literally anything and everything
>Plays games her audience doesn't really care for
>Rrats calling her rude might be throttling her potential new base
>Doesn't stream enough or streams too much
She SHOULD be at the big M by now, but it just isn't clicking

>> No.697134 [DELETED] 

>>696903
Enough threads about this whore, I beg you

>> No.697149

>>697134
Why are janitors deleting all the Kiara threads? There have been 4 or 5 deleted already.

>> No.697178

This is just baiting for more fan/anti bickering again. A single chuuba doesn't need 7 threads.

>> No.697190

>>697134
Not a whore, she's an escort. Please use the proper terms.

>> No.697219

>>697178
Everyday like clockwork too.
Nb

>> No.697231 [DELETED] 

>>696903
I respect Kiara because only a year ago or so she had to suck dicks in love hotel and hustle, now she is idol in biggest vtuber modeling agency. Wow!

>> No.697237

>>696903
Make her voice less shrill and play games people will watch.

>> No.697254

>>697231
Kiara is her own woman, she can stand on her own feet, suck her own dick.
She owes success to no one other than herself.

>> No.697436
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697436

>>697099
Delusional much?

>> No.697469

>>697436
That was the entire purpose of Holotalk. And why do you think she slowed down? She didn't want to leave Ina in the dust.
No Holo left behind.

>> No.697530

it's probably 50% design debuff, 50% bad first impressions, and 50% game debuff. Huke should honestly feel ashamed

>> No.697555

>>697178
They just need to ban all Kiara discussion from the board.

>> No.697590

>>697178
I think there is a conspiracy. There were some 5 more threads but they were deleted while the anti ones were left alive.

>> No.697666

Weird statement since Ina is behind her on subscribers and she earnsmmore than Gura on superchats.

>> No.697677

>>697530
he abandoned her a long time ago

>> No.697690

>>696903
Why are KFP such numberfags? She's not that behind, she's not even in last place, and you don't see deadbeats and teamates being like "how can our oshi catch up to Gura?".

No one cares, it's never going to happen, she's doing fine.

>> No.697706

>>697149
Because you're only allowed 1

>> No.697715

Who cares. I hope that takamori shit gets dumped when she moves back home and she can finally push out some actual good games and content for fucks sake.

>> No.697728

I'd honestly hate Kiara if I didn't already literally hate Calli.

>> No.697846

>>697706
Says where?
Generals are shit and shouldn't be promoted. Let conversation stay organic. People want to talk about how great Kiara is so they should be allowed to do so unmolested.

>> No.698351

People just don't like her, it has nothing to do with the content she is creating. It's obvious her FUCKHORRIBLE outfit is a major reason (seriously slit your throat huke you retard, although who knows Kiara probably had creative input as well), a lot of people don't like her voice either. Horrible first weeks hardly helped.

The fact that she went into effort-overdrive managed to make her catch up in subs with Ina, but that's not exactly equivalent with popularity. She has the lowest viewcount easily, which is especially noticable in group collabs where every girl streams their POV. Whenever there's a poll about which character people like, she is dead last. I don't think she can really do anything about that.
In the end people have different personalities and play different characters and some things are simply more liked than others. Her character type wouldn't be very popular if it was an anime, either.
She needs to stop being such a sperg and caring about this shit too, because she can't do anything about it. God the numberfaggotry is cringe at times. She has her niche anyway, her fanbase is utterly devoted, she makes god tier SC bucks, and attracts high-quality fanartists like a magnet.

>> No.698394

She wouldn’t be so hated if her model wasn’t ugly. Her personality is fine

>> No.698685

>>698394
Her model isn't bad desu it's just the clothes.

>> No.698717

>>696903
Have sex on stream.

>> No.698780

>>698685
The only thing that could even be seen as bad is the double hat.
But it's cute.

>> No.699057

>>696903
I like Kiara and am subbed to her but I do think it makes sense that she's not at 1 million yet. As a stand-alone content creator Kiara has to seperate herself from others more and do her own thing.

I like both her and Mori's collabs together and they are probably the videos of hers that I watch the most, but Kiara is honestly far too reliant on Mori. Both Sims videos are based around Mori and she's dedicated two songs to her, not to mention that Mori is a frequently recurring topic of conversation. As a result, Kiara feels more like Mori's sidekick or spin-off than her own thing.

As a biased deadbeat, I think Mori's way of making content is much better. Mori has a tendency to leave Takamori only for collabs: the way in which she turned the phrase "glory to Takamori" into "glory to the sheriff" and the way in which all of her songs have nothing to do with Kiara shows how different her approach is. Mori stands out by making her own content which makes her unique with the wine parties, rapping, weird slang and playing games that she loves. All of which makes Mori her own distinct character who isn't tied completely to Kiara. On the other hand Kiara's character and content seems way too tied up to Mori, to the point that it feels like either Takamori is a crutch for her or that she actually has a real romantic obsession with her. Either way, what we need is more of Kiara and her character and less of Mori IMO.

>> No.699134

>>698780
The outfit just looks dumb on her. It looks too small, like a woman in her 20s trying to wear her high school cheerleading outfit. And the sneakers are dumb too.

>> No.699168

>>696942
So he’s wrong even though he’s right?

>> No.699192

>>697099
> believing anyone is leeching off Kiara
There’s no way birdfags can be delusional to this is degree

>> No.699314

>>699057
Honestly I think her content will be far more independent once she heads back home. She's improving in some aspects though.

>> No.699403

>>699192
It's true, even if you try to deny it. You should be thanking her.

>> No.699427

>>696903
Aren't all the EN girls super popular despite being new?
And isn't Ina still behind Kiara in terms of popularity?

>> No.699447

>>696903
I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the real Kiara typed this post asking for advice.

>> No.699470

>>696903 (OP)
A fictional magical macguffin to wipe away all traces of her roommate from the internet like the clean state from The Dark Knight Rises
Stop yuribaiting
Stop putting all her eggs in the smaller JP basket

>> No.699497

>>697728
You sound like somebody I do not care for.

>> No.700030

>>699427
Not really. I'm not trying to numberfag but Kiara and Ina are pretty neck and neck at subs. You can basically say they have the same amount. But if I had to say who was more popular it'd be Ina since she has about x2 the view count when it comes to live streaming regular content.

>> No.700266

>>700030
Ina streams at prime NA time. Kiara is more obscure. Not a fair comparison. In any case Kiara is still more popular.

>> No.700301

>>699168
Yes, Kiara can do no wrong.

>> No.700413

maybe be less annoying, stop /u/shipfaging and play some good interesting games?
and stop trying so damn hard. Like just be yourself, like calm down a bit and chill. Be real.

>> No.701204

>>700413
You ever considered suicide?

>> No.701279

>>700266
It doesn't matter what time Kiara streams at, she still gets shit numbers

>> No.701921

>>700266
She streams at a bunch of different times for everyone already and her numbers aren't bad. But Ina still has way more.
>>701279
well compared to her subscriber ratio, yeah its pretty shit. But she has a good amount of people that tune in on the regular

>> No.702045

>>701921
She also gets a shitton of superchats

>> No.702154

>>697666
>>702045
>superchats
That just shows how mentally ill her fanbase is, not how popular she is

>> No.702259

>>702154
They're mentally ill for supporting their oshi?

>> No.702305

>>702154
If you see someone donate to a street performer do you call the police?

>> No.703555

>>702305
Street performer = disgusting hobo
Yes anon, I'll call the police on anyone feeding hobos.

>> No.703586

>>696926
Damn, Gura, Ina, Ame can't even do something like this?

>> No.705223 [DELETED] 

Ok, this confirms it. This girl is 100% autistic.

>> No.705285
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705285

>>696903
Because Kiara is the reincarnation of Antonio Salieri, the Queen of Mediocrity everything she does will be of 2nd class, and she will always be jealous of true talent, no matter what she does.

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708822

>>696903
Play a Project Moon game and get the korean and Lobcorp Chad audience

>> No.708948

>>696903
show booba

>> No.709068

>>696903
If you look at Hololive as a whole, she is far from being left behind.

Comparing Kiara to all exising vtubers, she is among the top leading vtubers in regards to subs, SC, and viewers per stream.

I don't get why people say she is falling behind.

>> No.709114

>>702305
I do unless they're a cute girl that doesn't talk like she's about to stab me for a nickel, only homeless people I want to see are the ones that'll put out for a happy meal

>> No.713953

>>697666
You’re mistaking codependency with popularity

>> No.714040

>>699403
For what? Shitting up every collab? Being a loud obnoxious shitbag? Having worse fans than Gura and Mori combined? If Kiara stepped down literally nothing would change in hololive except that her whales would migrate to Vshojo and find another Ex prostitute to worship.

>> No.714044

>>705285
The joke here is that Salieri in his time was actually more popular than Mozart, because Mozart was a cunt to his students so nobody liked him.

>> No.714848

>>696926
In that case, none in Hololive have original songs.

>> No.714972

>>698351
>seriously slit your throat huke you retard

All edge, no point.

>Whenever there's a poll about which character people like, she is dead last

That's because the normies prefer Gura and Mori, not that that's a bad thing but it's the truth.

>> No.715212

>>714848
Reine...
Moona...

>> No.715239

>>714848
>>715212
Mori...

>> No.715250

>>702154
Maxium Copium

>> No.715305

>>715212
Reine's original song was also composed by another person, not sure about Moona but it's likely same there too.

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>>696903
she should have sex with me to increase her popularity. kfp will tell her she sounds more beautiful than usual and how she's changed for the better afterwards. she'll gain new inspiration from becoming a mother. she can be the first pregnant mother hololive rocketing her into #1.

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715492

>>715305
they wrote the lyrics
>>706055

>> No.715608

>>696903
Listen Kiara, I saw your threads and I know you lurk sometimes here. Please stop coming here, this place is bad for your self entitled self.

>> No.715688

>>697178
Kiara is the new Annoying Orange

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716874

>>697099
Ok take your meds newfag

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717342

>>696903
It isn't a race, there is no win condition.

>> No.717678

>>716874
Bro, if any needs their meds taken, it's the you with that image you posted schizo freak.

>> No.720243

Oh boy another anti-thread. Let me remind you that HoloTalk 1 is the second most watched EN solo stream ever in terms of live viewers (and likely would have been higher than Gura's second Karaoke if not for the viewer bug). Kiara is also the only EN member to consistently get shadow banned by YT. She's also been ahead of Ina for more than a month in subs now and probably has less dead subs than Ame.

>> No.720316

>>720243
hello kiara

>> No.720353

>>696903
I unironically get filtered by her extremely long zatsudan streams on the daily, like who the fuck would watch her shit when you have something else to do in your life, and if you missed or never completed one you already miss out on things and can't rewatch it again because she's doing another fucking long stream. I used to follow her because she's a bubbly sweet girl and talk streams are my thing but having it this long makes it not worth it, so I dropped her and just mainly watch Mori and a couple of comfy indies.

>> No.720467

>>696903
She's doing just fine.
You holofags (i'm one as well) live in this bubble and thinks she not reaching the millions by now is bad news.
No you fucking faggots.
The pace in which all hololive is going is just fucking fine.

>> No.720525

>>720353
>like who the fuck would watch her shit when you have something else to do in your life
You kind of just answered your own question.

>> No.720528

>>696903
The orange chick is doing alright for herself. She's better in collab, is all. She bounces off the walls without a partner.

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720538

>>697190

>> No.720558

>>720316
Sorry KFP aren't limpdicks like the rest of the EN fans and actually will defend their oshi from lies and slander.

>> No.720582

>>716874
I saw that image on your twitter you zhang

>> No.720618

>>720582
That image has been around for awhile since like just before the Pekora collab.

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720636

imma be honest lads, the whole "KFP" schtick is cringe.
She needs to drop it and just embrace her inner stacy energy, maybe get a new cheerleader outfit and just embrace the memes by acting like a total bitch to the other holos and her fans.
There isn't another holo with a character like that so it so it would really set her apart, not to mention playing right into massive untapped "step on me mommy" demographic.

>> No.720806

>>720636
>massive untapped "step on me mommy" demographic.
You don't watch many holos do you?

>> No.720834

>>720806
there isn't a holo whose character involves being outwardly hostile towards their viewers

>> No.720934

>>715492
>sarasin
>route: "Saracen"
i schmell jihad on the horizon
maybe reine will do a cover of some of the more popular isis nasheed?

>> No.720939

>>720636
This could actually work... I'd honestly
start watching just for the hilarious chat interactions
>>720834
Eary Haato maybe? But i guess even then it was more tsundere/closet degen and never a full on stacy

>> No.720975

>>697099
>She would have beaten Gura by now
Kiara's solo content is her worst content and shes a worse singer than Gura and only has songs because she's in Japan, administer your meds

>> No.721026

>>720636
>imma be honest lads, the whole "KFP" schtick is cringe
It's the most limiting of all the holoschtick, certainly. The others are vague enough to not restrict jokes.

>> No.721035

>>714848
Towa's new song palette is written by herself

>> No.721110

>>696903
>despite her best efforts kiara seems to be trailing behind

lol wut? she's the fastes growning top 10 youtuber ( not just vtuber ) world wide when it comes to money making.

https://playboard.co/en/youtube-ranking/most-superchatted-all-channels-in-worldwide-monthly

>> No.721149

>>697690
its not KFP making these threads dumbass. its always autistic antis.

>> No.721911

>>720525
See, that's the thing, if she cares about appealing to a larger audience, cut down her excessively long stream times.

>> No.721931

>>720243
>viewer bug
KFPs really are numberfags huh. Its my first time witnessing one in action

>> No.724591

>>721911
You antis are a bunch of hypocrites. First of all how the fuck are long streams bad?That's like complaining you got a large soda when you only ordered a medium. She streams mostly JRPGs, of course they're gonna be long, just skip to the good parts if you don't want to watch everything, devoted KFP watch everything though, especially since the SC reading is often the best part.

Second, even if long streams were bad, why is there a double standard then? Korone does 10+ hour streams and gets praised for it "wow she's a real gamer etc." but you guys look for every opportunity to shit on Kiara.

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