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>this dumb Canuck coffee merchant is going to have the #2 vtuber company just because all the non-Hololive competition can't stop tripping over their own dicks to stop him

>> No.69688692

>>69688247
Maybe YouTube EN only. Not a chance they ever beat Niji JP or Vshojo.

>> No.69688693

>>69688247
Isn't V4Mirai doing pretty good for themselves? Idol's yab was over in a week.

>> No.69688735

THANK YOU BASED GOD

>> No.69688757

>>69688247
Pretty based, turns out the secret to running a talent management agency is to manage your talent and make sure they're doing okay. Who would have guessed.

>> No.69688836

>>69688247
Pippa is the new meta

>> No.69688946

VSPO still exists

>> No.69689170

>>69688247
Every time I see another one of these threads from now on I’m unsubscribing from one of your talents. Buy an ad

>> No.69689216

>>69689170
You can only unsubscribe once retard

>> No.69689257

>>69689216
I’m subscribed to more than one talent retard

>> No.69689298

>>69689257
why do seabrowns lie like this?

>> No.69689302

>>69689257
Try unsubscribing from life

>> No.69689584
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FISH!

>> No.69689608

I think he's based and I hope he takes over the world with his coffee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu0_lFVssS0

>> No.69689685

>>69688757
It's more like admitting when you have no idea what you're fucking doing when it comes to tardwrangling menhera girls so you hire female managers whose whole job is doing that.

>> No.69689744
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>>69688247
>this dumb Canuck coffee merchant is going to have the #2 vtuber company
3rd

>> No.69689884

>>69689685
>CEO delegates business to qualified professionals instead of trying to micromanage it all himself
What a radical concept

>> No.69689908

>>69689685
Hiring a tardwrangler is more than Riku ever did for NijiEN

>> No.69690008

>>69688247
>opens JP branch
>nobody notices
>#2
lmao yeah sure

>> No.69690369

>>69690008
Hey I noticed Clara.

>> No.69690505

>>69688247
Buy an ad

>> No.69690813

>>69688735
TYBG

>> No.69690971

>>69688693
better than others, but nothing spectacular.
they have some debuffs that might further hold them back though.

>> No.69690993

Vshitshow is a group of vtubers 1st and a company when it's fans want it to be relevant. They never had a chance in the running in the first place

>> No.69691039

>>69688247
Sakana will kill himself in his warehouse if he has to deal a singular Vtuber drama, this man is on the edge every day, his balls are more blue then a hanged hangman.

>> No.69691042

>>69690369
i mean, thats the reason she has double the subs and triple the CCV from her genmates, she just speaks the language most phase fans speak

>> No.69691127

>>69688693
I mean they are really new and going hard on idol shit so that might be a slow growing agency until it picks up steam. Phase has the power of memes and drama on their side which is kinda hard to compete with when you are doing unironic idol concerts (as in real physical location concert not a nijisanji "concert") for small groups of idol fans, oh and they yuribait a lot too which is a plus but not that big of a growth factor

>> No.69691191

>>69691039
i mean he lasted through the internal drama that nearly destroyed his corpo.
hell, he somehow not only lasted through Pippa, Tenma, and Lia basically unionizing, but managed to talk them into realizing they were in the wrong.
goddamn man WON being teamed up on by freaking Pippa, Tenma, and Lia at a time they fucking hated him.
he'll be fine.

>> No.69691210

>>69689744
Vshojo is not a vtuber agency
Several of them have fucking shown face on stream

>> No.69691217

>>69688692
I agree when it comes to them not being as big as niji JP but for Vshojo I just can't trust the numbers from these people, twitch already got caught pumping numbers in the past and I see a lot of the mythic and vshojo streamers having a dead chat and hyper stable round numbers on streams, seeing someone like Nyanners have her viewcount stuck at 6.1k for two hours on boring games is really fucking weird

>> No.69691329
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>>69688693
ahem,
V4Mirai are 2views, idol Corp which is the closest competition to phase are 3views. Boyfriend Connect dwarfs most small corpos in talent number and quite a handful are 1k+ views, which is comparable to Nijisanji.

>> No.69691348

>>69691210
And one will you ban if you talk about her past and how she lied about something she said while being a vtuber

>> No.69691402

>>69691348
Ironlung or froot?

>> No.69691438
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>>69688757
You hire only:
>Losers
>Autistic people
>Mentally challenged girls you pick up from a short bus
>Super werido's
>Literal crazy girls you picked up from a insane asylum
Then hire some actual tard wranglers to tkae care of them. These girls will be such fucking losers and social outcasts you now don't have to worry about high school tier clique shit

>> No.69691500

>>69691402
The Iron one because Froot now using the Autism card in order for her brainless fans to attack you

>> No.69691514

>>69691191
>through Pippa, Tenma, and Lia basically unionizing
Literal who's. The internal drama wasn't even that serious nor close to it and it was really just a shit test.
They knew they were in the wrong as PC has some of the most favorable contract agreements for any one of them, it would've tarnished their careers if they went through.

>> No.69691584

>>69691514
i wont take anyone seriously who calls Tenma, Pippa, and Lia 'literal whos' in the context of Phase, especially early Phase.

>> No.69691621

>>69688693
V4Mirai's barely started and it's too early to tell. The ongoing NijiEN controversy may also have permanently changed the dynamics of the EN Corpo scene - formerly you had Hololive (5k+ viewers), NijiEN (1k-2k), and everybody else sat around 50-150 viewers and being unable to break out past that. Now you have NijiEN averages dropping to the lower end of 1k, Phase climbing to the 500-1000 range, idol somewhat behind, and most everyone else is still stuck at 50-150.

>> No.69691653

>>69691514
>Literal who's
>Sakana's only 3 real earners at the time
Yeah ok.
Uruka was really tiny due to not streaming and not having as big of an immediate appeal as the others.
And the JPs for all intents and purposes did not exist.

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>>69690008
I noticed this cutie!

>> No.69691712
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>>69688693
>V4Mirai
yeah I don’t know about them…

>> No.69691730

>>69691210
>Several of them have fucking shown face on stream
The only one's who've done it on stream are Mata and Kuro.

>> No.69691736

>>69691653
>Uruka was really tiny due to not streaming and not having as big of an immediate appeal as the others.
now she is known for being horniest in phase...

>> No.69691758

>>69691730
>Mata
How's she look? Hag like?

>> No.69691796

>>69691584
The exact same could be said to you, why should I respect someones opinion who boasts about people nobody has ever even heard of until then.
You are the exact same thing as the Dutch East India company a scam brought up from thin air, they only gained notoriety the past two years, earlier PC members were larger.

>> No.69691838

>>69690008
Japanese vtuber market is extremely oversaturated with tons of various small corpos and indies competing for a shrinking audience of younger people with disposable income

>> No.69691843

>>69691674
I’ll allow this. Yuu is very cute

>> No.69691899

>>69691796
Nigger we're talking about an internal incident at Phase Connect.
The members being "literal who" compared to Hololive doesn't fucking matter, they had tons of soft power within PC.

>> No.69691901

>>69691712
I seriously think this is a joke stream

>> No.69691995

>>69691210
Ironically, it's the ex-Holo and the two ex-Nijis who've face revealed. The rest haven't gone further than a handcam.

>> No.69692013

>>69691796
holy absolute shit you are one retarded anon kek.
we're talking about phase by itself, and Sakana himself has said the importance of those three to early phase. there were literally only 4 others back then too and 3 of them were japs meant for a different market.

>> No.69692024

>>69691736
She's onlu horniest she's too autistic to get any dick

>> No.69692031

>>69691899
Never said Hololive, rent free I guess. I wasn't thinking of Niji livers.

>> No.69692047

>>69691758
Late twenties-early thirties blonde woman. Actually pretty decent looking.

>> No.69692051

>>69691712
1. Subscribed.
2. These girls beat NijiEN to 3D models.
https://www.youtube.com/live/nuoZBXa8gJg?si=Y0jjG-dgbSyhS3mI

>> No.69692079

>>69688247
Well he scouted Runie, the best female vtuber outside of hololive so he knows what he’s doing.

>> No.69692109

>>69692031
It's irrelevant who you were thinking of, we're talking about an internal issue at Phase Connect.
Pippa, Tenma and Lia were not literal who's in Phase Connect. They were 90+% of Fishman's revenue.

>> No.69692226

>>69692079
Runie and Eimi are great.
Muyu is great too, but she always sounds like she's dying.
The other two seem nice too but haven't really grabbed me.
And Gen2 is actually getting better with experience, Airi is way better than she was near debut.

>> No.69692333

>>69692079
I would have taken Runie over Nerissa in HoloEN every day of the week

>> No.69692468

>>69691899
>>69692013
Scans past the message and locates on a specific point to attack, good you fell to the common fallacy of a personal attack, I'd expect better from you.
The soft-power within PC is utter non-sense they weren't high earners compared to the other girls, they weren't even in the spotlight as well.
You probably are confusing the actual important members for them, I do understand 2022 and earlier is a blurry memory.
Sakana only states their importance because they boosted the company after the other tubers got famous with clips, Pippas growth is exponential in 23 yet linear in 22 compared to Uruga.
I rest my case.

>> No.69692550

>>69692079
Don't forget Clara, the best vsinger who is also an actual idol. Fishman jumped at the chance when he saw hololive pass her up.

>> No.69692559

>>69692468
right, you're just an outright liar, got it.

>> No.69692604

>>69688247
They're #2 because the site I numberfag with only uses YouTube data
Phase nigger cope

>> No.69692621

>>69692559
Right.. and you must be a stupid nigger?

>> No.69692725
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>>69691712
Were they trying to emulate niji but Mutt Law'd "black company"?

>> No.69692728

Has anyone tried the coffees? Are they any good? Where the fuck does fishmane source his coffee when he only sells like 2-3lb a day?

>> No.69692797

>>69692725
nah, they're both from Brazil.

>> No.69692870

>>69692728
ive heard mixed things about them.
Pippas got another vtuber sick at a convention before though.

>> No.69692877

>>69692079
If there's something good you can say about the fish, it's his eye for talent. His criteria are entirely indecipherable to mortals, but damn if he doesn't miss.
>>69692226
Anon. The reason muyu sounds like she's dying is because she's dying of living as God's personal punching bag.

>> No.69692977

>>69692109
No they weren't lol, the revenue Phase makes entirely comes from merch sales, they have the lowest cut of donations.
Them streaming 24/7 didn't do much as the foundation was already there, if you genuinely believe they had a impact on PC's 22 End of year financial statement then you are beyond saving.

>> No.69692991

>>69688247
They're basically firmly in the middle on their own. Cover, Niji* (as a company in general) and Vshojo are way at the top but they are above other small corpos.

NijiEN, though in flames, still technically has a larger audience to pull from and can attract for an event/big stream and has more capacity to do stuff. NijiJP is only rivalled by Cover.

>> No.69693068

>>69691500
oh yeah, I still can't believe people can't see she's lied for years and it's relatively easy to that stuff online
she always makes herself out to be this moral beacon but if you know half the catty shit she was doing with Nyanners about Pippa when she was some random 2view not even on the same platform, but that downfall will come eventually anyway

>> No.69693093

>phase anti doesn't know shit about phase
we're on this loop again?

>> No.69693112

>>69692333
I like Runie more than nerissa, but she genuinely likes being in hololive and actually doesn’t take it for granted so she deserves the spot imho.

>> No.69693213

>>69688247
This is really just a side hustle to get every indie to do branded coffee through his coffee company. No matter who wins he wins.

>> No.69693236

>>69688247
He figured out the formula, the product is actually the viewers not the streamers. Holo also figured this out about 2.5 years in. The others haven't yet. Most likely the next one to catch onto this is Mythic.

>> No.69693264

>>69693213
one day, he'll have his own coffee farm, one day...

>> No.69693333

>>69693112
Yeah. I like both of them. I also think I like Runie more in a vacuum but Nerissa functions really well in Hololive.
Only one I'd take out of Advent if I had to would be Shiori, and even then it's just because she's the one I watch the least.
>she's dying of living as God's personal punching bag
Piece of shit, what did he do?

>> No.69693538

>>69688247
Problem with this is...
>The affect of the drama on Niji won't be enough to take them out of second place in the long term
>Pippa is on the conspiracy fringe when it comes to beliefs, which will kill her popularity with normies, especially the ones who watched Niji

>> No.69693565

>>69691500
You're brainless if you believe even half the shit people try to spread about Froot
Also Mouse was a Pippa anti? Based as fuck if true

>> No.69693645

>>69688247
how much semen do they put in that coffee for all this cock sucking?

>> No.69693902
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>>69693213
its already happening

>> No.69694143

>>69688247
He hired a female talent manager who acts as the matriarch of the herd.

>> No.69694226

>>69693645
it's actually a dash of your personal seethe in every bag

>> No.69694267

>>69688692
I could see them competing with Vshojo eventually. Vshojo CCV average is 2.5k-6k or so. Corps are as strong as their strongest talents when growing. So as long as the corp stays healthy and the talents keep a good dynamic then their strongest talents will drag the weakest up along with them.
Phase Connect in particular is hitting a good spot because their B and C-listers are starting to collab with a bunch of heavy hitters instead of only Pippa getting collabs. Pippa's on track to hitting S-tier if she can maintain her momentum.

>> No.69694387

>>69694226
slurp slurp slurp

>> No.69694414

>>69691736
… Even more than Tenma?

>> No.69694484

>>69694143
Yeah there is a reason as to why brothel managers are usually female

>> No.69694499

>>69694267
Are you talking about that ollie and red homo collab? A great achievement, sure

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>>69688247

>doxxing
>>69691348
>antis
>>69691210
>liars
>>69691500
>numbermonkeys
>>69691217

Not sure about your claim but their fanbase certainly has some pretty shitty people.

>> No.69694619

>>69689170
Wait, why were you subscribed in the first place? Or are you subbing and then unsubbing? Seems retarded either way

>> No.69694699

>>69692728
A coffee snob friend of mine got some Pippa flavor and said that it was fine, but about 2x as expensive as other coffee he could get for the same quality.

>> No.69694707

>>69691329
>Boyfriend Connect
Try to hide your power level a bit better, Sister.

>> No.69694799

>>69694520
I like a few Phase girls but man they have the most openly subhuman fanbase
and it's not close

>> No.69694846

>>69688247
OP, sometimes the key to success is just being consistent and showing up to do the work. The people who do not get swept to the wayside.

Good for him !

>> No.69694882

Phase Connect is up and coming but this is WAY too early to be talking shit. Let's see where they are after 6 months of Nijisanji shooting itself in the foot.

>> No.69694904

>>69691329
You people are seaniggers. Kwab Holobronies. Chipi chapa dubi daba. Skibi do.

>> No.69694908

>>69688247
>Reliable Side income from coffee
>Helps boost his vtuber agency


I mean kinda based.

>> No.69695001

1. Hololive
2. VShojo
3.

>> No.69695098

>>69694520
>repeating a statement that someone said as their current vtuber persona
>doxxing
That's a generous interpretation of the word. If your oshi hypothetically told everyone a story about how they murdered a man, then a few years later tried to pretend they never said it; that isn't doxxing. They admitted it. Not on a personal account. Not in their past life. Their current one. You don't have to care about what they said. That's fine. But pretending they didn't say it and declaring it doxxing if you are proven wrong is nonsensical. If you let the genie out of the bottle you don't get to put it back in.

>> No.69695119

>>69695001
Can someone post ironlung's 5 view and slow chat

>> No.69695128

>>69694520
You have smaller brain than Henya, whorefag.

>> No.69695259

>>69695119
She is live right now bruh.

>> No.69695283

>>69695119
pippa will never pull a 5 view

>> No.69695313

>>69695098
There's never a reason to talk about it if she clearly doesn't want to, so it's doxx.
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").

>>69695128
>>69695259
Proving my point further, thanks.

>> No.69695351

>>69691348
>she lied about something she said while being a vtuber
QRD?

>> No.69695357

>>69695119
I just checked and her chat seems pretty fast?

>> No.69695366

>>69694908
Backpacks own coffee

>> No.69695460

>>69695283
I wouldn't say never. She might do something controversial or notable enough.

>> No.69695520

>>69695313
Haven't proven anything m8. You cannot even back up your claims in writing.

>> No.69695603

>>69695520
You are a perfect example of my claim though.

>> No.69695653

>>69693213
It isn't his coffee company though.

>> No.69695783

>>69695603
Boring. Next meme.

>> No.69695795

>>69694799
I hear about them being le worst fanbase evar more often than actually seeing it, we have nijis screaming about hating white people on twitter and keeping a 24/7 hate squad for Sayu, idol fags just poach begged for 2 days to deflect from their own drama and we have some holos that went on a crusade against Phase because of a single schizo being a schizo in fuwamoco's chat
I get that their very /here/ but outside of seeing them spam sneed in chat for 5 min in a stream once I've never had any bad interactions with them

>> No.69695808

>>69691712
I sm thinking BASED

>> No.69695886

>>69691712
retards that don't watch streams don't understand she's """a female comic""" and this is 90% all a joke that she's just not good at telegraphing like most times with her, she's cool though

>> No.69695986

>>69688693
V4Mirai exist? who even talks about them? I couldn't begin to tell you even one of their talents.

>> No.69695990

>>69695795
They are occasionally annoying. They are not bad but being consistently annoying is what actually leads your entire tribe into an oven.

>> No.69696222

>>69695313
>There's never a reason to talk about it if she clearly doesn't want to, so it's doxx.
That's not what dox means. Dox isn't any currently-inconvenient thing you have said in the past. It's private information, that you never wanted to get out in the first place, which someone dug up. Private information stops being private when you openly reveal it, of your own volition, for your fans and the world to see.
>Please note that discussion should pertain to a VTuber's streams and content, and should not pertain to their real lives, relationships, or appearances ("IRL").
Except she did talk about it as a vtuber. So it is that vtuber's content. If a vtuber talks about her relationships on stream then discussing what she said is fair game. Otherwise streams that have a family member on would be completely undiscussable.

>> No.69696273

>>69695986
Anon, they're part of Brave Group. Once Brave deputs VSPOen, things are going to change. Brave has two other english vtuber groups, one of them being Globie, and VSPO is what will truly put them on the map on the EN side

>> No.69696336

>>69695990
as a person that mostly watches indies I appreciate the fact that they collab with a lot of 2views and often help them out, at least it's better than how some other corps and their fans acted

>> No.69696362

>>69695795
If you look at any twitter account involved in harassing Froot, 9 times out of 10 it's a PCfag

>> No.69696366

>>69692468
what the fuck are you talking about you stupid faggot?

>> No.69696421

>>69688735
TYBG

>> No.69696430

>>69691730
Is Kson really that forgettable?

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>>69691674
USD...

>> No.69696555

>>69696222
I disagree with your definition and so do the mods but go and discuss it with them instead of me.
But more importantly everyone knows you only bring it up in the first place to shit on her which makes you a shitty person by default.

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I love Tenma she sounds exactly how a Nick Mullen chuuba would sound like

>> No.69696823

>>69696555
Why do you care about being perceived as an asshole? Do you know where you are?

>> No.69696869

>>69696362
People still talk about froot? isn't she completely forgotten in Vshojo knowadays?
if you're talking about the ant-chama people they're not even PC fans, they're just tourists, she even admitted to not watching pippa or anybody over there, she just wants to be black turkey tom

>> No.69697057

>>69696823
I do not want to surround myself with shitty people if possible, is that such a hard concept for phasefans to understand?

>> No.69697099

>>69696869
She talked about getting diagnosed with autism the other day and that mobilised the antis for some reason
And I mean you can check their accounts and see them retweeting/commenting on PC stuff
Usually Pippa, obviously

>> No.69697215

>>69697057
>I do not want to surround myself with shitty people if possible

Why the fuck are you here then you retarded redditfag? Go crawl back into your simp hole.

>> No.69697332

Because the secret to a successful org isn't talent, it's hiring competent tardwranglers. Talent can be nurtured over time, but the company will implode before then if there are no tardwranglers to keep its members in check.

>> No.69697410

>>69696569
No joke very recently I had a dream that Nick applied and successfully joined Holostars but quickly gave up, probably because he sobered up and realized he thinks anime is gay. His model was really cool too.

>> No.69697538

>>69697410
lmao

>> No.69697565

>>69697099
well I just went to check, only thing I saw was 2 twitter dramafags reposting stuff from last year, none of them follow pippa, mostly just Hexa and Kirsche since both actually do go into dramafag bait calling out froot

>> No.69697583

>>69697215
It's funny to me why you even try to deny it when you reaction makes it painfully obvious how shitty some PC fans really are.

>> No.69697607

>>69697410
Do you normally dream about men anon?

>> No.69697679

>>69694499
Pomu and Filian

>> No.69697782

>>69696555
>But more importantly everyone knows you only bring it up in the first place to shit on her which makes you a shitty person by default.
Ah, please don't misconstrue my argument. I'm not saying that discussing it makes you anything but a shitty person. It 100% does. That's why I didn't argue with your initial statement of it being shitty people doing it. That's why I haven't mentioned "it" in any certain terms. I'm just arguing with you calling it doxxing. It's a semantical issue. Words matter. The more definitions are stretched, the less value the word has. That's also why Anycolor is currently trying to broaden the definition of "harassment" until it's stretched so thin it loses all meaning. Being an asshole is bad, but doxxing is far worse than that.
>so do the mods
Moderation is notoriously inconsistent so that's not really a valid point on anything. New bakes get nuked when the current is on page 11 sometimes just because a janny hates the person being discussed. All one can do is take their licks and move on. It's like saying the cops beating you is proof you did something wrong.

>> No.69697798

>>69688247
Stability is a major competitive edge in the Vtuber industry, and fishman has perfected it.

>> No.69697950

>>69688247
Why do phasecucks love sucking CEO cock so much? Are they taking inspiration from nijisisters?

>> No.69697985

>>69688247
I only watch Tenma.

>> No.69698068

>>69697950
Every corpofags sucks CEO dick, Yagoo, Fishman, whoever the fuck Vshojo's is, and Tazumi.

>> No.69698132

>>69698068
No other CEO gets as much garbage spam as this cock sucking faggot "muh fishman".

>> No.69698282

>>69695283
The only time ironmouse ever get a 5 view is when she's playing a popular game

>> No.69698348
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>>69698132
Literally yagoo does because hololive is more popular.

>> No.69698425

>>69697565
https://twitter.com/DailyVShojo/status/1759185995952718331/quotes
I just spent a few mins looking through this and every anti I've checked so far has mentioned phase
Bonus points for lots of transphobia and racism

>> No.69698486

>>69698068
For Yagoo, I can understand.
But fishman and Gunrun? It seems like their fandom are just forcing it too much

>> No.69698504

>>69698425
cool, froot still isn't autistic

>> No.69698513

>>69697782
I respect your opinion but I don't really want to argue about semantics, the only reason I brought up the mods is that they make / uphold the rules of the law here, not me, I didn't say I'm correct because that's how they do it.

>> No.69698584

>>69698348
Yet fishfag gets 10x more dogshit threads as well as people constantly bringing him up during the phase girls streams.

>> No.69698814

>>69691674
She's the only PC chuuba I watch and I think I'm better off for it.

>> No.69698912
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>>69696273
>Iris Black Games
What did VSPO mean by that?

>> No.69698993

>>69698486
Fishman has a lot of things in common with Yagoo, he respects the talents, pushes for fair contracts, gives fans what they want, and is involved with the community. I'd wager he's more involved with the community than Yagoo ever has been though.

This could be a double edged sword though, if shady shit comes out against him since his image is so tied to Phase.

>>69698584
Yagoo isn't as relatable, so people just shitpost someone with increasing influence.

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>>69698486
Fishman only became a meme because people in the community noticed how much of an oddball he was. He was perfectly fine sitting on the sidelines but people started making fanart of him and requesting interviews and such that he just ended up accepting it.

>> No.69699326

>>69688247
VSPO still exists, phasekeks

>> No.69699471

>>69699028
He's put his foot in his mouth and acted like an awkward dork so many times live on stream, it really makes you wonder how he's able to negotiate with Pippa or Tenma and come out with them saying they were in the wrong.

>> No.69700234

>>69699471
I mean who else is ever gonna take Pippa if she leaves? She knows that.

>> No.69700598

>>69698584
Well, aren't phasecucks redditor dramavermin doxxfaggots?

>> No.69700752

>>69698068
No, Sakana is quite often a punching bag, for fans and the talent. He’s a good sport about it and comes across as being mean back. It’s a funny family kind of environment over there.
Corporate cock suckers are here too, but not like with Hollowmen

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>>69688247
Dark horse
https://www.youtube.com/@VNUEntertain

>> No.69703140

>>69701052
>not a single talent about 50k
they do have better numbers then some others though, sure.

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69703437

>>69688247
This you?

>> No.69703498

>>69703437
No but I do recognize the channel they're commenting on.

>> No.69703650

>>69703437
>>69703498
Two likes... stop shilling your own youtube channels, its dead and buried you were supposed to be a anime girl 3 years ago now its late.

>> No.69703964

>>69688247
Pink rabbit whore is all he has. She owns the company, not him

>> No.69704131

>>69698486
>gunrun
When was the last time you see someone bring up Gunrun unprompted outside of /vt/? He's pretty invisible publicly.

>> No.69704292

>>69688247
I stopped caring about Bitconnect the moment Lumi committed Veibaecide, way to downgrade herself.

>> No.69705149
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>>69691191
>i mean he lasted through the internal drama that nearly destroyed his corpo.
People are starting to exaggerate how big this was. In the end it was:
>Fish starts a company
>girls say Fish can't deal with women
>Fish says ok and hires woman to deal with women

I understand that 90% of other small corpo founders would have just doubled down and started suing their own talents, but that's because they are retarded.

>> No.69705311

>>69691674
Rose has cat ears under her W-corp hat?!

>> No.69705345

>>69688693
>Idol's yab was over in a week.
Uhhhhh which one? The Yuko shit seems pretty fresh.

>> No.69705364

>>69692977
>they have the lowest cut of donations.
Made up.
>the revenue Phase makes entirely comes from merch
Also based on you seeing things in the stars, but even weirder is that your retarded brain somehow came to the conclusion that the talents aren't the driving force behind people buying merch of them.

>if you genuinely believe they had a impact on PC's 22 End of year financial statement
You realize that the "coffee company getting into vtubing on the side"-thing is a joke, right? You actually don't, because you're a weird retard who is trippling down rather than admit that you misunderstood something. Kill yourself.

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>>69697950
How can you not like this silly group of misfits? Perfect underdog story.

>> No.69706077

>>69698425
>Bonus points for lots of transphobia and racism
Could you go back where you came from and stay there?

>> No.69706159

>>69705149
it really is hilarious how bafflingly low the bar is.

>> No.69706781

>>69705149
People are used to incompetence. Being normal is all it takes to succeed when everyone else is retarded. That's what makes it such a big deal. It's shocking to see someone with common sense running a vtuber agency. Just compare to the other western companies(or branches):

>Kawaii
Lost an entire gen. Including one chuuba known for doxing. Regardless of the circumstances surround the rest, it looks really bad as an outsider. And outsiders are potential new viewers.
>Idol
Had their Riro yab and now Yuko has pissed off the majority of her members.
>Prism
Sold out to Sony and was promptly forgotten by everyone.
>EIEN
lol
>NijiEN
Is burning to the ground as we speak.
>HoloEN and Vshojo(I think?)
These are the only ones still doing okay right now. And Vshojo doesn't compete with anyone else since they are on a separate platform.

Fishman is just doing normal shit you would expect a businessman to do. He delegates tasks to people better suited to them, and shills the coffee that his friend's company makes. And he's winning because of it. The whole situation is hilarious in its absurdity.

>> No.69707060

>>69691621
to be fair, CCV means a lot less with female viewership (which is a lot for nijiEN), but even VOD and clip numbers are dropping pretty hard for them

>> No.69707261

>>69706781
WACTOR is the only one i can think you should've also mentioned.
there are theoretically a few other small corpos without yabs, but they are irrelevant and overlooked for a reason. im not a numbersfag, but i also dont ignore they matter when it comes up. and the absolute lack of growth i saw from some small corpos was actually a bit shocking.

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ITT

>> No.69708733

>>69708361
Third place is a pretty great spot to be in honestly. Vshojo is on Twitch so you aren't really competing with them for viewers. Which means the only person directly above you is HoloEN. Below one but above millions.

>> No.69708749

>>69698584
is it really any surprise phase cucks love the bull?

>> No.69708844

>>69708361
vshojo isn't really an agency, it's more like a group of indies

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>>69698584
The fish is the company mascot. It's not that deep.

>> No.69709067

>>69688247
Lia is not renewing her contract and is graduating this year.

Lia is the first Phase Connect talent, a homegrown talent, and has company legacy attached to her. If she is looking to leave, then alarm bells should be sounding.

All it takes is one domino to fall.

>> No.69709177

>>69709067
Lia says otherwise.

>> No.69709480

>>69709067
She quit school to focus on vtubing while the market is viable. What makes you think literally the opposite is true?

>> No.69709523

>>69709067
>IdolEN poaches Lia and Muumi
this is how they can still win uniorincally

>> No.69709816

>>69693093
>phase schizos are better anti than phase anti
You love you see it

>> No.69709949

>>69698584
It's ok Riku you can just say you're jealous every CEO gets to be a lovable meme except you.

>> No.69710079

>>69693264
Owning a bunch of columbian slaves is probably cheaper and more stress-free than managing his current asylum to be honest.

>> No.69710258

>>69710079
OK but hear me out:
Colombian menhera girl asylum with a "horticultural therapy program."

>> No.69710759

>>69710258
>>69710079
just make the current talents work the farm in shifts.
3 days farming, 3 days streaming, 1 day rest, or something.
maybe put Jelly in charge of managing the schedules.

>> No.69710878

>>69688836
Honestly, as great as Pippa is for meme potential, I find myself enjoying Tenma and Runie more.

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>>69709067
>Lia is not renewing her contract and is graduating this year.

>> No.69711057

>>69709480
>>69710917
>December 2023: announces taking a gap year to focus on vtubing full time after getting her 1st degree; hopes for it to be permanent and do vtubing as a career
>February 2024: actually I applied and was accepted into a school in Japan but I will let you know later in the year what i decide. If I go I will still stream in Japan trust me
she's as good as gone, anon. tale as old as time.

>> No.69711207

>>69710878
10ma is great. runie is mid she doesn't fit in phase connect at all.

>> No.69711320

>>69711057
Look at the picture in >>69710917

>> No.69711452

>>69711207
nta, but opposite opinion on those two imo lol.
but i digress, no phase fan wars.
more importantly, phase is big enough for a diverse set of talents, and so long as they all get along, who cares?

>> No.69711571

>>69711452
>10ma doesn't fit in phase
her pippa lia and uruka define phase connect and phase culture. they started the damn thing. runie is the equivalent of a trust fund baby living off of the work gen1 and gen2 did.

>> No.69711589

>>69710759
>3 days farming, 3 days streaming, 1 day rest, or something.
They stream while they farm. 16 hour shifts, Sundays are free. Special event streams include:
>ASMR streams include the soothing noises of a talent succumbing to malaria
>[Handcam] streams of one talent's dysentery adventures

>> No.69711819

>>69711571
eh, sure maybe early on, but actually shes in the minority now of those that actually take gaming seriously, especially in terms of long playthroughs. it stands out now, and not in a way personally to my tastes.

>> No.69711940

>>69711057
>>69710917
if Lia leaves on her own terms, then good for her. She will get the good ending, something that rarely ever happens in small corpo vtubing.

I don't think she will leave tho and I hope she doesn't. She has too good of a spot and makes too good of money for the amount she streams. She would have to be mental to leave, but, then again, Lia is THE sad girl in sad girl company, so anything is possible.

>> No.69712221

>>69711571
Lia, Tenma, and especially Pippa are very different from what they were like at the start of Phase. So much so that it's genuinely retarded to think Phase has some sort of culture that has been set in stone since then.
Also people said the same exact things about Gen 2 that you're saying about Gen 3 and it's just as retarded now as it was then.

>> No.69713277

>>69695795
it's an old thing from when there was a huge power gap between pippa and everyone else. it was bad enough that the thread split with the sole purpose of excluding pippa's fans. the fans got better after the rest started gaining popularity and pippa stopped being le based yabbit

>> No.69713285

>>69688247
managing vtubers is simple, just be nice to them

>> No.69713303

The funniest thing to me as a Phase fan is that people on the margins still assume and talk about Pippa as if she's somehow edgy or alternative when Pippa is the most bottom of the barrel normalfag chuuba in the corpo and in general. Her entire content has declined into reaction streams and a game here and there but 95% of her output is literal reaction slop. nuPippa is only good if you have fuck all interest in vtubers or vtubing. She once was something of a misfit with something to do or say but all of that went out the windows long ago. Nobody should watch Pippa if they want to have a good time and are interested in vtubing. More than that, Pippa is mogged in quality by every other girl in Phase and that by a wide margin. Pippa today coasts on her legacy and subcount, but in terms of quality she wouldn't make it as an indie. She's just... bad. She's a pipeline of shit into Phase and brings in unwanted attention by various grifters, e-celebs and fleshstreamers and Phase would be a better corpo without her. She herself is a scummy amoral grifter and under no circumstances should you trust her or give a shit about her. And again - Pippa is 100% pure normalfag with a veneer of being anything else.

tl;dr the quality of Phase is in everyone but Pippa and if you want to watch Phase don't waste your time on Pippa but watch any other girl.

>> No.69713736

>>69713303
>another lying Pippa anti
geezus you guys just never stop kek.
doesn't matter though. shes successful, and will continue to be. shes loved by basically everyone in the company and isnt going anywhere.

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>>69713303
>Her entire content has declined into reaction streams
Why do you catalog fags keep saying this? Here picture of her recent streams, retard.

>> No.69715996

>>69713303
>>69715518
Every Pippa stream becomes a react stream eventually, no matter what the title said it started as. She's still entertaining if you learn to close the stream and stop looking at PCG the moment she opens a youtube tab, though.

>> No.69716233

>>69715996
Not a single one of those streams devolved into anything they didn't start out as.
Why do you not understand that you don't know what happens in Pippa streams because you don't watch them? Or you're intentionally lying.
>PCG

>> No.69716305

>>69715996
>more lies
kek, its panicking.

>> No.69716357

Phasefags are the Chihuahuas of vtubing, extremely aggressive for how little presence their company actually has in the industry.

>> No.69716619

>>69716233
I have refused to use board name format titles for general threads for as long as people have been doing that because I am not a subhuman.

>>69716305
I'm not who textwalled at you before.

>> No.69716923

>>69716357
compared to who though?
compared to Holo basically no one has a presence. And Vshojo is probably bigger too.
but Niji is melting in support, and theres honestly is no other real competitor in the small corpo sphere to them, other than maybe Idol.
seriously having looked at a solid few other small corpos due to anons shilling em here and in another thread, I actually did not realize how much smaller most of them were.

>> No.69718929

>>69698486
>>69697950
I think a lot of it is because thanks to what we've seen from all the interviews, he really is just some dude that wanted to start a vtuber company because he likes vtubers. Also it's funny to see the girls consistently bully him when he keeps telling them to stop.

>> No.69719534

>>69713303
>er entire content has declined into reaction streams and a game here and there but 95% of her output is literal reaction slop.
Yeah but sometimes in a blue moon we get absolute gems out of it like that deep dive into hobby enthusiast freaks.

>> No.69719677

>>69715518
I swear if she doesn't fucking deliver on EVE when the time comes...

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>>69688247
soon, fish, soon

>> No.69723896

>>69723738
look anon, i dont hate them, but theres nothing impressive about them except just how little people seem to care about them...

>> No.69724778

>>69715996
>Every Pippa stream becomes a react stream eventually, no matter what the title said it started as.
This.

>> No.69725649

>>69691796
You sound like a proper fool, someone who walks in acts, talks like they know shit and everyone around him realises this person knows absolutely fucking nothing. Embarrassing

>> No.69725672

>>69724778
not a single one of her streams recently have done that though?

>> No.69725961

>>69692468
>uruga
I'll say it again, a fool, also an idiot. Stupid. Retard. Moron. Ignoramus. Dysfunctional Drooling Dumbass. Special Needs Repeater.

>> No.69726193

>>69695653
Its from a chink friend, might as well be a full on partnership

>> No.69726238

>>69703437
lmao it actually is him
you can find links to his channel in the archive

>> No.69726604

>>69695886
Doesn’t look like a joke so I unsubscribed.

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>>69696555
The actual definition used by the mods is anything that isn't directly related to the streaming aspect of the vtuber. Thus, fleshstreaming is okay as long as vtubing is balanced with it. Doing other fleshie shit like making music is banned unless you are Mori Calliope
All of this has been consistent up until two weeks ago, when the gloves came off and the board became ungovernable for several days. Things still haven't gone back to normal, but when they do, that's the reasoning they'll use.

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>>69695119
you mean the one where the video speed is conveniently not visible? I told that anon multiple times to show that in the webm to stop any allegations on mouse's capture being slowed down, but he didn't... gee I wonder why.

>> No.69727023

>>69706781
It helps that Fishman has business experience as well as having been a vtuber fan prior to starting Phase. It's easier to insert yourself into the shoes of a fan when you were one yourself. Plus he was already rich, so it's not like he is out to make his riches from Phase. It's almost like a passion project that ironically ended up working out.

>> No.69727627

>>69688247
He's definitely not dumb, OP. Can't afford to be when dealing with Zerg and Protoss flying units.
But seriously, Phase still have Brave Group to contend with. Sure, most of their EN chuubas are currently only 2view, but they seem to have limitless funding and could potentially drown their competition with money. Perhaps what the coffee peddler needs is a round of fundraising? I dunno.

>> No.69727760

>>69727023
Fishman has explicitly said in the interviews he is playing the long game and jokes about having the children of talent in the corpo years from now.
Of course he wants to make money but the focus is long term sustainability.

>> No.69727801

>>69692468
Uruka hard gimped herself not only by focusing on school first and foremost but by also branding herself as the musically talented Phaser. Then her violin broke and then her throat deteriorated.
Lia got her Associates during her time in Phase while Uruka is working on her Bachelor's and contemplating a Master's in music or something along those lines.
And up until very recently (im talking about last August, after streaming for 2 years here) she got her violin fixed and also got an electronic one from simps at offkai. She also has a guitar and an erhu. Then she also finally figuring out that she had GERD, it took several years and multiple doctors only for 1 of them to finally say "GERD" and then promptly treat it.
The blue bear is steadily gaining subs tho, just yesterday gaining 600+ subs during her violin karaoke stream which are her main buff streams.
So after 2 years and being the only English Phase Origin member NOT hitting +100k yet, she's slowly getting some momentum. Cant wait to see what the future hold for the tomboy blue bear

>> No.69728387

>>69727627
Nobody is getting any funding other than AI and semiconductors in tech right now. Unlike Hololive and Anycolor, Fishman actually was honest and never pitched Phase Connect as a tech company during the bubble years and hence he was never able to get capital other than loans and what he already had access to.
Even if Fishman is able to get funding, the investors are going to demand changes that might not be amendable to the company so you would likely see more forced rules on seisoness and benefit cuts most likely. Unless the current opportunity of stealing NijiEN's 2nd place on Youtube is that enticing, I would say his concern should be mostly focused on how Phase JP is doing at the moment.

>> No.69728642

>>69727760
Fishman seems like he really wants to imitate Yagoo's formula but without the idol stuff, for better and for worse.

>> No.69728757

>>69705997
Their ragtag group of kiwi raiders keep harassing everyone

>> No.69731205

>>69688247
What did VShojo did bad? they are literally winning awards through mouse and acquiring only good talents. They average ccv is also at least 2-3 times that of PC. Don't get me wrong I like Dizzy and Tenma, but Nr. 2 is far fetched

>> No.69731259

>>69728642
he wanted his own idol company but the first two gens put that on hold. he must be happy more musically inclined girls joined

>> No.69734036

>>69697583
Seriously though, fuck off to your hugbox, this is 4chan

>> No.69734064

>>69731205
Vshojo is a group not a corpo. That's what everyone gets wrong. Vshojo can't even participate in the rankings

>> No.69734614

>>69734064
This, they don’t have creative control like agencies do and they don’t own the IP and take a share of the vtuber’s revenue. They act like a vtuber agency in some ways but they’re more like a talent management agency in others

>> No.69734901

>>69734614
I would akin vshojo to something like OTV or OTK? I guess. They're a content group that do things together but they can choose not to do it if they don't want to. Does that make sense?

>> No.69735217

>>69734901
Makes sense to me.

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>>69695313
>There's never a reason to talk about it if she clearly doesn't want to, so it's doxx.
>vshojofags being retarded again
If she said it on the internet, it's there to stay and she can't complain about it. It's doesn't matter what she wants

>> No.69736835

>>69734901
They're like...I think it was called Polaris, the thing TotalBiscuit and other content creators were under. Basically in exchange for a cut of your channel profits, they would legally go to bat for you if anything happened to your channel and directly sort shit out with yt.

>> No.69738890

>>69688247
Consider
https://specialite.games/en/talents/

>> No.69738967

>>69738890
vtuber agencies gotta stop giving EN talents cringe jp names.

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