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>> No.69583312

>>69582693
Jesus, they must have really been hit hard with lack of new art to do this shitty stunt.

>> No.69583501
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>>69582693
This shit has the same vibes muhh family

>> No.69583644

>>69582693
> Elira and the clique haven't left a comment in support for the artists

They aint beating the allegations lol

>> No.69583663

>>69582693
I'm going to need to dig deeper into this "maena". Reeks of being a paid actor. And I wouldn't put it past kurosanji to come up with such a shitty script, either.

>> No.69583671

>>69582693
>coordinated effort to artificially rehabiliate NijiEN's reputation gets leaked
>coordinated effort to artificially rehabilitate NijiEN's reputation occurs
Like fired ceramic clay ware

>> No.69583726

>>69583644
reimu and enna are in the screenshot

>> No.69583740

>>69582693
I'm going to be honest, if Vivi had just tweeted that out herself? Only the most diehard FUCK NIJI REGARDLESS OF CONTEXT people here would have an issue with it. But the fact that it's clearly not her own initiative and is something being pushed by management, PR, or both, which is made obvious by all the other tweets from Nijis, makes it come across as insincere (even if she does sincerely believe it).

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>>69583501
Shit's like the Manson Family.

>> No.69583896

Everyone still in NijiEn is a boolicker scumbag

>> No.69584019
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>>69582693
>>69583501
Making every liver post the same shit at the same time seems such a rookie mistake, surely the PR team isn't that dumb right?

>> No.69584077

>>69582693
Literal deflection.
The reason artists are getting negative comments is because of NijiEN and the livers' own actions. If they had just released a neutral termination letter, and if they hadn't doubled down by getting the livers to release behind-the-scenes info to damage her reputation, no one would be directing negative comments towards artists.
In other words, the nijifag cries out as he strikes you. They went full attack mode and are now trying to play the victim because of the poor artists suffering through the all out war they declared.

>> No.69584099

>>69584019
Were you in coma in last 2 weeks?

>> No.69584206
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>draws art of controversial topic
>tries to sell art of controversial topic
>meltsdown when potential customers are pointing out it's a controversial topic
>meltsdown when no-one wants to buy products of controversial topic

>> No.69584228

>>69584099
I just thought Niji would learn from their mistakes but I'm giving the black company too much credit

>> No.69584305
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These weird coordinated tweets are so fucking weird man. It's so disingenuous.

>> No.69584392

>>69584019
They learned nothing from the Zaion fiasco and repeated it with Selen except orders of magnitude worse, they will never learn anything

>> No.69584527

Niji rep...restored...

>> No.69584600
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>>69582693
i wonder if any of them paid said artists

>> No.69584613

Does it not seen odd to them when they randomly post about the same thing at relatively similar times? Are they pandering to artists because no one wants to work with them anymore?

>> No.69584693

>>69584613
it's a PR stunt, just like their "family" thing

>> No.69584714

>>69582693
wow, such a natural response
>>69583501
this

>> No.69584770

Vivi's is the only one without signs of being skinwalked. It's just a cute doodle in support of fan artists then she actually gets mad when people call her out. So sure, the timing isn't the best but she's the only one who seems to be genuine.

>> No.69584783

>>69584613
>Are they pandering to artists because no one wants to work with them anymore?
yes and yet again they're creating another problem for themselves. They were being quietly blacklisted before, now they're publicly shitflinging with fans AGAIN
Livers ar being publicly blocked by people and they're still doubling down trying to harass random people on twitter now

>> No.69585030

>>69583501
what was muh family even about?

>> No.69585124

>>69584783
Nah, this is actually a good tactic.
If you can change the narrative to "innocent artists are being harassed", that distracts from the real problem.
Plus, artists are incredibly easy to please so just stroking their ego and saying "I love aritsts!!" is often enough to win brownie points.

>> No.69585276

>>69582693
Absolutely soulless.

>> No.69585378

>>69585124
>artists are incredibly easy to please
This.
>Spend a few hours drawing the thing you wanted.
>Finish, post. Feels good
>HOLY SHIT, THREE (You)'S, FEELS AMAZING
>Now to draw another thing

>> No.69585406

>>69584019
God I hope they are because of the memes we can make

>> No.69585450

>>69582693
>Sell fan merch of a company in the immediate aftermath of them pushing one of their former talents to attempt suicide and then trying to repeatedly assassinate her character
>People naturally take this as you implicitly supporting that company and don't want to buy your products regardless of where the profits are going
:O

>> No.69585488

>>69585124
It's not a good tactic when it's obvious that it's being management mandated since everybody does it at the same time and not coming from a genuine place.

>> No.69585529

>>69582693
>Niji management stealth suspends a bunch of livers for setting the bad precedent that NijiEN actually supports artists, setting up the unwarranted expectation of fair payment for artistic labor
Imagine.

>> No.69585610

>>69585488
Except most people are retarded and won't even notice that.
Look, it's not going to make NijiEN's problems go away, but it's better than their strategy so far.

>> No.69585666

>>69585488
bold of you to claim that they have someone managing them atm.

>> No.69585749

>>69585488
The bar is low, anything they say that doesn't attack ex-organs is a + for now.

>> No.69585872

>>69582693
It's so fucking sad how soulless these planned posts are.

>> No.69585928

>>69585488
I don't believe its management-mandated

But I can believe that they all conspire together to rally on a single thing. Just imagine sharing the post on a Discord and be like "hey, let's make a feelgood posts", both to rally the hardcore, and earn brownie points for being "the harassed"

>> No.69586000

>>69583671
where's that? I couldn't find shit on the archive only GURRAT shit.

>> No.69586073

>>69582693
>maena
>maegix
Isn't this bitch the one that started the rentry list and the spamfornijien shit?
This is her alt account or something?

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>>69582693

>> No.69586104

While youre at it, can you please stop boycotting my "I love Epstein" stickers as well? dont worry, no money goes to him, it all supports fan artists.

>> No.69586138

>>69586073
>flip
Oh wow it is the same girl kek
Man, NDF need to learn about astroturfing

>> No.69586154

>>69586073
Quite a few "maegix" bios there. Could you please specify?

>> No.69586237

>>69582693
How the fuck is this company so fake? It's so obvious I can't believe the "artist" anymore.

>> No.69586313

>>69586073

Jesus christ these sisters. I guess making up shit about doki wasn't enough so now they're making up shit about niji artists.

>> No.69586317

>>69586154
She's the bitch that got community noted because the BPD thing
maegixx or something like that

>> No.69586394

>>69582693
Now they're paying artists with thanks now? KEK

>> No.69586534

>>69584392
I hope they get what they fucking deserve, people shouldn't be able to fail upwards like this lmao

>> No.69586757
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>>69586317
>>69586073
You might just be a genius, anon.

>> No.69586804

>>69586757
>it's a niji sleeper agent
fucking kek

>> No.69586829

>>69583501
I guess this is the "family's" attempt at saving whatever little credibility they got left.

>> No.69586859
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69586859

like fish to bait

>> No.69586913

>>69586757
As much as I'm willing to pick up this rrat, I have my doubts about the validity, is there any other evidence you can pick up to support it?

>> No.69586934

>>69586757
Mae*
Phillipines
Nijisanji

Are there any more commonalities than that? It's a start but it's not exactly rock solid.

>> No.69586964

When you guys realized that Selen never paid the artists who attended to her outfit event

>> No.69586988

>>69586964
Rewrite that in english

>> No.69586999

>>69586964
ESL Nijisissy, my HOLOBVLLCOCK LUSTS for your PUSSY!

>> No.69587001
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>>69586913
>>69586934
somehow they are both fan of marie and lazulight...

>> No.69587004

>>69586934
NTA but || <same pronouns> ||.

>> No.69587039

>>69586934
Yeah, not much to go on, most nijifags are SEA women so it's hardly compelling.

>> No.69587073

>>69586913
>>69586934
maegixx/magic, bit of a stretch but it sounds similar yet different enough to serve as an alt

>> No.69587075

>>69582693
negligible lmao

>> No.69587095

You guys will remember that selen need to paid for the artist who attened to her outfit contest after furry artist called her out on twitter

>> No.69587116

>>69587001
Not convincing enough unfortunately, I feel like there could be something at play here but need something significantly more concrete.

>> No.69587123

>>69587095
I said rewrite that in english

>> No.69587126

>>69586964
>>69587095
Very organic, siscord.

>> No.69587138

>>69587001
If the nijishill has ever posted similar art it might be something

>> No.69587164

>>69587095
Hello, Nijisissy! >>69587095
My HOLOBVLLCOCK? Hello? You can't just leave RINGER posts with my DINGER'S unattended!

>> No.69587166

Remember selen was the one who paid everything for VRchat maps

>> No.69587189

>>69586073
Nijggersanji should never underestimate the power of weaponized autism

>> No.69587199

>>69587166
BASED

>> No.69587229
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>>69587095
>>69586964
It takes talent to make two ESL shitposts consecutively. The question is, are you a zhang or sea femcel?

>> No.69587268

https://twitter.com/VBrightshield/status/1759861531930497215
https://twitter.com/VBrightshield/status/1759861531930497215
https://twitter.com/VBrightshield/status/1759861531930497215
REMIMDER THAT NIJINIGGER BULLIED US ON TWITTER

>> No.69587287

>>69587001
lemme guess
>she/her (male)

>> No.69587337

>>69584305
it's really telling how they have no idea what they are doing as a collective and out of touch they are

>> No.69587478

>>69584206
anon you do realize those arts were drawn well before Selen's firing, right
you do know how art and art sales work, right

>> No.69587552

>>69587478
Doesn't matter, she should be aware that she might get negative comments after all the drama that happened. She is either retarded or is farming pity

>> No.69587570

>>69587073
check her followers

>> No.69587578

>>69582693
Someone needs to tell management that having a corporate mandated tweets like this come from every chuuba is a bad look.

>> No.69587655

>>69587268
It's unprofessional and petty but honestly I wouldn't go that far. It'd be funny as hell if the artist story ends up being either fake or horribly embellished to be a weird form of astroturfing.

>> No.69587710

>>69587655
I mean half that harassment was just two guys discussing the situation in front of her

>> No.69587712

>>69587650
>stole my edit
fucking nigger

>> No.69587730

>>69587268
>Account made today
>Drop one comment, then block
>Delete account
I'm sorry but that's Elira

>> No.69587764

>>69585928
They literally all post the same thing at the same time with the Japanese ' and you don't think it's mandated?

The only one that stands out is Vivi's little doodle.

>> No.69587791

>>69587570
hacktrix says they're not following each other, either she thought of that and took some opsec measures or they're different people

>> No.69587889

>>69587791
need to go outside xitter, or some schizo is powerful enough start analyzing alphabets

>> No.69587972

>>69587791
No twitter follow checkers work anymore. You can check yourself and see.

>> No.69588036

selen no pay artist remember

>> No.69588060

>>69582693
>pronouns
>"broke down"
xD

>> No.69588489

>>69582693
Okay but how bad are the stickers? Are there photos?

>> No.69588577

>>69588489
Her posted "art" are literally tumblr-tier. Make of that what you will.

>> No.69588687

>>69587972
I don't really use twitter so I didn't know. I manually checked their followers and they don't seem to follow each other, though it feels like I'm being shown less accounts that there should be, ie I think I can only see like half of the 190 accounts maena is following

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>>69588489

>> No.69588839

>>69587001
>> Seen profiles
>> Rainbow stuff
>> Lazulight
Fuck off , Education your self

>> No.69588955

>>69588839
Don't mention education with that ESL mouth.

>> No.69588994

>>69588792
> Bring NijiEN merch to a con during a time where NijiEN's reputation is a dumpster fire
> Compound problem by said merch being of two livers getting the most hate because of their actions during this dumpster fire, never mind all the other controversies that wave got into
> Cry about it when people, naturally, comment on the controversial nature of the merch you chose to bring
Profit????

>> No.69589139

>>69583835
Charles Manson prison monologue, but it's Elira.

>> No.69589450

>>69586073
you got the original rentry?

>> No.69589502

>>69586934
Seems like a good moment to remind everyone that Philipino guys have dicks so small that their girls claim that they barely feel them.
They even go for Chinese or Korean guys because of that. Imagine how small you have to be for a fucking Korean to have a bigger dick.

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69589608

NijiEn really love these company mandated tweets huh?

>> No.69589616

>>69588687
Yes, that's why the twitter checkers don't work anymore. There's no way to get the full list of twitter followers.

>> No.69589695

>>69584600
SHE KEEPS WINNING WITHOUT EVEN TRYING LMAO

>> No.69589711
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In my point of view artists should be the ones paying nijisanji

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>> No.69589780

>>69586913
Maenamagic does have a separate "general fandom account", but the Genshin screenshots on that fandom account have a different userid and resolution than the screenshots posted by the Maegixx account.
Both accounts are generally consistant in the resolution of the fullscreen game screenshots they post, across the years and across different games. Maegixx posts 2880x1800 screenshots, while Maena posts 1792x828 screenshots.

I'm going to go with them not being the same person.

>> No.69589795

>>69588792
is that nina merch, why they still selling that?

>> No.69589908

>>69586757
>Philippines

Ew

>> No.69589923

>>69589768
So every one going to type out their school essay and show it to the class today huh. Let see if Elira post one as well kek.

>> No.69589934

>>69588792
Not that bad but they went with that wave, no wonder they got shit.

>> No.69589947

>>69588792
Nice joke

>> No.69590126

>>69585030
March 2022, so probably the discord leak fallout

>> No.69590140

>>69589923
Elira's dead, anon. Her attempt was actually successful.

>> No.69590176

>>69582693
>oh noes! It was so stressfully!!?!1 I was lterally SHAKING and ALMOST RAPED!!!1one
melodramatic faggot artists get the rope
did some nazi come and flip their tables? douse their "art" in lighter fluid and strike a match?
no?
then stfu thin skinned pussies holy shit they're not oppressed artists in a soviet gulag ffs, some regular passing cunts just expressed their opinions due to CURRENT THING get over it

>> No.69590191

>>69584770
nah, the tweets seem like they're written by the livers themselves. Elira must have restored access and told them to tweet.

>> No.69590194

lol they are really going to try and milk this for everything its worth.

>> No.69590228

>>69589780
Seems pretty definitive, thanks for the investigating.

>> No.69590234

>>69589923
Elira's taking at least a month off before a triumphant return stream where all her simps will worship the ground she walked on for being "so brave" and "going through so much harassment" while her paypigs shower her with money.

>> No.69590248

>>69588792
Kek, the fact it's ethyria merch alone could've been a reason for them laughing

>> No.69590253

>>69590191
Yeah this (and even the I LOVE MY NIJI FAMILY) smells more like a case of "just got out of a meeting on a topic and are now enacting a damage control plan" rather than straight up skin walking

>> No.69590283

>>69590176
"Nice joke"

>> No.69590310

>>69590126
So basically they had a discord group therapy sesh to try to come to terms with the massive chips on their shoulders and to cope and stop seething about the fact that they couldn't get hired by cover instead of ichikara.

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>T..they harrased me as artist
>Turn out she is also the one who started the fake rentry
What did they mean by this?

>> No.69590365

somehow the idea of one person trying to be positive and corporate forcing the rest of the branch to soulessly copy their sentiment as a sign of solidarity is a thousand times worse for PR than if they'd just shut the fuck up entirely
I'm no marketing expert but when you've already got everyone questioning your every move, the way to regain trust in a business like this is to let individual performers stand out on their own positive attributes. Nobody gives a shit when an entire football team wears a pink ribbon for some scam awareness charity in october, but they'll notice when individual players help their local communities or donate to personally relevant charities intermittently.

>> No.69590369
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Elira: "Watch how easily I sway public opinion in my favor."

>> No.69590377

>>69582693
Their favorite artist; Hitler.

>> No.69590438

>>69590234
yeah that'll probably happen, nijisisters will show her all the support for a few days, maybe even a few weeks, then they'll move on to the next discord OP and Elira will be left with very little

>> No.69590553

>>69586757
the absolute state of dramafag

>> No.69590566

>>69586073
holy shit kek

>> No.69590572

>>69586237
the worst part is it's working on the retards on Reddit.

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69590639

>doki makes tweet saying she's looking for artists
>some "and then everyone clapped" story from artist comes ou
>niji pr move to say how much they love artists

>> No.69590641

Lmao this is the most cringy PR move i have seen so far.
Has there ever been such shamelessness before?

>> No.69590572,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>69589780
source?

>> No.69590670

>vtubers giving positive attention and support to artists
>tHiS Is A PR sTuNt!

>> No.69590704

>>69589450
Rundown:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240216082009/https://rentry.org/nijidoki
https://web.archive.org/web/20240216100304/https://rentry.org/nijidoki2

https://twitter.com/maenamagic
https://twitter.com/maegixx/status/1758507288812540028

u/Much_Future_1846
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/1avdbyd/vivi_vs_prick/
u/DisPear2
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/1av0vmf/be_kind_to_others/

>> No.69590736

>>69589780
What's the general fandom account for Maenamagic?

>> No.69590765

>>69590670
I wonder why people aren't trusting two-faced liars? It's so unfair.

>> No.69590786

>>69590369
maybe I should become an investor

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>>69582693
thank you artist

>> No.69590806

Why they're posting it at the same time with the same wording? Their fucking PR team are complete retards. Like after "muh niji family" shit you should get some feedback and change your MO accordingly, but they didn't do shit.

>> No.69590850

>>69582693
Then the liver who doesn't tweet this PR thing gets bullied / culled LMAO

>> No.69590856

>>69590806
The way they mass post like this gives me cult vibes. It's creepy and very obvious how they are either encouraged by management to post that, or they talk amongst themselves to post at around the same time with around the same message. So strange.

>> No.69590873

>>69590806
Because haters are cynical and overthinking things when the support is genuine.

>> No.69590890

>>69586757
holy shit hahahaha

>> No.69590921

>>69590873
So true sister

>> No.69590931

>>69587478
>you do know how art and art sales work, right
Apparently you don't, maybe it's best to not sell the art while the community has a fresh wound. Nothing says you have to sell it at any given time.

Then again you used "arts" as the plural for art which tells me you're an SEA ESL fuck so shut the hell up no one gives a shit what you have to say

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>>69586000

>> No.69590957

>>69590670
>reddit meme
go back

>> No.69590973

>>69590704
The only reason I don't think they're the same is because radically different posting style. Also maenamagic wasn't the original name of the account but I don't care to look at what it was before.
https://twitter.com/maenamagic/status/1407891804024807425/photo/1

>> No.69591004

>>69590890
HAHAHA what a ploy, the inner machinations of a nijiKEK PSYOPS is real

>> No.69591045

>>69590736
faerietaler

>> No.69591091

That Enna tweet in particular feels like a canary in the coal mine. The other ones, if you had no context, would seem a bit odd to post outta nowhere but at least it's well meaning. But Enna's feels so soulless that you can instantly notice it sounds like a PR-mandated message.

>> No.69591092

>>69590949
The funny thing is we did see this with the OG 39IQ (kyo pl associate) but she got clowned on by normies

There was another thread earlier about the internal "dookiebitch" nickname they use so they dont get reprimanded. (6
talents do this apparently) Looking for it now on the catalogue.

The coordinated artist support falseflag also seems to support this and that thread's contents.

>> No.69591131

>>69591045
Oh. You're right. They both have different account IDs.

>> No.69591268

>>69587001
>Phil

WHAET? no pic of her being at a con so not real just another NDF ploys. LMAO

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69591283

I still haven't gotten my payment for my fan project.
Selen, where is my money? You've been delaying me with leaked photos of Finana nudes, but I'm an afraid that doesn't cover the costs

>> No.69591371

>>69584206
Typical flip behavior

>> No.69591382

>>69591092
>Dookiebitch thread
This one? >>69547103

>> No.69591393

>>69591092
>There was another thread earlier about the internal "dookiebitch" nickname they use so they dont get reprimanded
Link?

>> No.69591480

>>69583501
Does anyone have reimu's either discord leak or deleted tweet that proved these messages were written by management and they just copy paste it?

>> No.69591482

>>69591393
>>69591382

Yeah, there was some kind of larp comment about how 4chan has been warned then this "we gotta protect da arteests" falseflag shit happens later today.

Very funny coincidence

>> No.69591525
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>>69582693
>thank you artists you are great <3 <3 mwahhh

VS

>artists send me your portfolio because I WILL PAY YOU

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>>69591283
>You've been delaying me with leaked photos of Finana nudes
Sounds like you've been getting paid in exposure

>> No.69591646

>>69591091
>canary in the coal mine
Kyo only acts black, anon

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>>69591636
CAAAAARRLOOOOOS

>> No.69591750

>>69591525
Artists gets paid with tweets or rather exposure. kek

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>> No.69591868

If the artist opens commissions after this gains traction I'll laugh

>> No.69591939

>>69584019
At this point I fully believe the PR team is one guy and a magic 8 ball.

>> No.69592055

>>69587268
>KunoMD in the replies calling her based
Reminder that this guy bullied an amateur artist into quitting because he thought her artstyle was shit. Niji doesn't even pay artists but he buys this lip service bullshit.
Assholes flock together.

>> No.69592195

>>69584019
No, they're even dumber than that
>>69591636
KEK

>> No.69592203

>>69591525
You can tell which message was written by an artist

>> No.69592258

>>69582693
Why does Niji keep doing this shit on Tuesdays?

>> No.69592360

>>69592258
Needs the monday to plan out their PR attempts

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>>69584770
>>69589768
I am beginning to theorize that Niji PR must have a mandated tweet policy that goes like this:

>I want you to make this tweet. You can either:
>1. Use this pre-written tweet
>2. Make your own tweet using the crucial bits of the pre-written tweet
>3. Make your own tweet that pushes the message we want pushed.

Vivi went with No.3, and Fulgur has consistently went with No.3. I feel that if it's something livers actually want to tweet, or in Fulgur's likely something they want actual individual control over, they choose No.3. If it's something they really don't care about enough for the effort, or if it's something they actually don't want to tweet, they do No.1 or No.2. With that in mind, I have to wonder how many mandated tweets there has actually been. There may have been more that the public has not caught on to. Perhaps, in early days, they less strict about when and how the message pushed. Plus, they were likely positive things that livers in a better headspace, wouldn't mind pushing. But with things as they are now, PR is getting sloppy desperate, pushing the livers to get it out there NOW NOW NOW without realize it how much more fake the "solidarity" looks.

On a side note, I give some respect Fulgur and Vivi for choosing authenticity, even if they bent the knee. I can respect "owning it". Though I don't know what Vivi was think when picking a fight with that nobody. If you're doing a PR stunt, why the FUCK don't you understand that generating positivity is propping up good things, and attempting to destroy things invites negativity? Especially in an industry of artists and entertainers, in which you are seen to be in a position of prestige and power? And are currently playing at a PR disadvantage due to recent events within the past year? STOP ANTAGONIZING PEOPLE IN PUBLIC.

>> No.69592443

>>69582693
On the same day? Not even ttying to hide it was ordered

>> No.69592456

>>69585928
I agree it's not mgmt dictated or skinwalked. Some liver probably a clique leader decided to tell everyone to post this shit at a coordinated time. It probably came from some kind of standup meeting.

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>>69592258
Termination Tuesdays

>> No.69592492

>>69582693
You can't ever trust a flip

>> No.69592520

>>69587337
Are they? Look at the replies on the tweets. It's overwhelmingly positive, this place and maybe reddit (ironic enough) are the only places where this is mocked and pointed out but the immediate reaction they get after making these tweets is of love and support. As long as the drones keep liking their asses they'll keep doing it.

>> No.69592555

>>69592425
>Though I don't know what Vivi was think when picking a fight with that nobody

That nobody didn't even exist yesterday. Vivi replying to a sockpuppet so that she can have her YAS GIRLBOSS SLAYYY moment is so fucking retarded it had to have been Millie's idea.

>> No.69592618

>>69592520
reddits eating this shit up.

>> No.69592674

>>69590704
Lmao it's hilarious how much she has edited her non biased document. Especially after other lawyers have chimed in
>I have seen many, many comments claiming ANYCOLOR is breaching NDA, that Selen can clearly sue them as a result, and so on – but this is a major corporation that has lawyered up in response to Selen’s termination threats, and quite frankly, knows the

>> No.69592806

>>69582693
>it's 2024 and nijien is still doing the totally not suspicious family style tweets
Jesus Christ.

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>>69590856
You nailed it anon. NijiEN is now the Scientology of vtubing, complete with the mandatory participation in the coordinated attacks against ex-members

>> No.69593062

>>69592943
who is their tom cruise?

>> No.69593088

>>69593062
Vox duh

>> No.69593193

>>69582693
>doesn't that company have an issue right now?
oh my god, what horrible bullying behavior, no wonder that artist has ptsd

>> No.69593210

>>69592425
And Enna went with 1 at least 80% of times kek

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>>69591525
>free exposure
Vs
>Fuck you let me pay you

>> No.69593400

If Dokibird is Robinhood, who is the Sheriff of Nothingham?

>> No.69593547

>>69593400
Isn't it obvious that it's elira? And riku is prince john. I am maid marian.

>> No.69593582

>>69582693
I like how it reads like they know or assume their fanbases don't overlap and would never notice they're all doing it at the same time, which wouldn't look that weird if it happened out of nowhere at any other regular time, but not right now

>> No.69593642

>>69593582
I LOVE MY NIJI FAMILY

>> No.69593643

>>69593193
Nice joke.

>> No.69593871

>>69587478
Anon art doesn't "go bad", their Niji shit can wait until things die down. Instead, the artist shouldn't always put their eggs in one basket and should sell art of the yabless Holos if they wish for a safe investment.

>> No.69593937

>>69592618
reddit always eats shit up, eating shit is their existence

>> No.69594109

>>69593871
Sisters fucking hate Holos, though, so that's not an option.

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I was right when I said they are 100% banned in a lot of larger art circles now. As Is said a lot of large art circles probably banned them after so many artist came out about them not paying them. Artist circles, at least the ones with good artists all stick together and talk. I bet they realized they got shadow banned pretty much by a bunch of artists and they had to do this in hopes to get them back.

>> No.69594410

>>69594109
also sisters art generally sucks, it can't compete in the big pond

>> No.69594481

>>69582693
when was this when kitty was getting backlash when wilson basically paid another artist to plagiarize the mascot kitty designed

>> No.69594553

>>69584077
yeah where was this coordinated effort when bullying was happening within?

>> No.69594596

>>69589780
Nice, I honestly would've stopped at two accounts being active since their creations.

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>>69594398
I feel like people don't realize how close knit the art committees are.
You fuck over one person that's inside one of those the bigger committees and you're fucked. You won't be getting art again from them since they will hold a grudge like a mother fucker and everyone follows suit.

>> No.69594647

>>69594398
I don't get it. If it's an attempt to win artists back into their favor, doesn't this just say "if you draw us you'll get bullied too"?

>> No.69594683

>>69584600
likely not, selen is the only en member open about how she thinks it's fair for artists to be compensated, all the others ride the free art train, and wilson even paid for someone else to plagiarize kitty's design for his fanmascot with no credits whatsoever

>> No.69594698

>>69583501
Bad people act like they have something they need for public reputation that they don't have
Just like there is no democracy in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (North Korea)

>> No.69594712

>>69586757
reupload the bitches art if they have a patreon take everything that on there and make it public with kemono party

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>>69582693

>> No.69594739

>>69594712
>party
the party is over...

>> No.69594758

>>69594647
Honestly it would have if they(The Niji EN talents I mean) did nothing, and that might be just as much of a factor as them trying to get pity points.

>> No.69594803

>draw something about X
>X does something stupid and deplorable
>people quip about X
>WHY ARE PEOPLE HARASSING ME
>X: WE LOVE ARTISTS! #STOPARTISTHARASSMENT
this shit is so stupid I can't believe people are gobbling it all up
replace X with nijisanji, russia, isreal, or taiwan to make the comparison even more blaring

>> No.69594814

>>69594398
Yeah they realised theh cant source out premium thumb nails anymore or anniversary / project artwork. They've really fucked up this time but their efforts are solo hollow.

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>>69594647
No it's the "I love you artists" stuff going out form all of the livers saying how much they love them and their work. That is them trying to get back in favor, but I'm going to tell you once you burn your bridge to one of the larger art committee, your done. There is no coming back once they pretty much shadow ban working with you.
I've interacted with very large ones for a long time and not paying and seeing multiple claims of this? No they're fucking done and no coming back ever. They will never interact with you again, this is not an exaggeration .

>> No.69594918

>>69583501
Too bad they are fighting each other kek

>> No.69594951

>>69586757
Find out if the new one is also an Ayaka main. No one mains her. It's an absolute checkmate.

>> No.69594956

>>69594758
>>69594871
No I get it, but highlighting a story like this could scare away artists. I feel like the sentiment is "you might receive bullying, but your favorites are gonna cheer you on!"
Actually, it's a pretty good deal to draw Niji now, if you're an artist. There's less supply so your stuff will stand out more, and if you do get bullied (or not) you can super-chat about it to one of the talents and get a pity boost for your twitter.

>> No.69594959

>>69594803
The dumbest shit about this is it was a comment some people at the con said in passing after seeing the booth. I’ve been to cons, the art booth area is always a massive clusterfuck. You’re going to have all sorts of people making observations and comments about your work because it’s a huge fucking crowd. Shit like this happens all the time and it’s not something to get up in arms about.

>> No.69594983

>>69587243
You will never fuck pic you posted

>> No.69595034

>make fun of a bilion dollar company CEO
>Nijisister take it as harassment against them

I dont get it

>> No.69595047

>>69594712
Not your personal army, tourist.

>> No.69595049

Why do they have to be so hamfisted too. They always do the same "we all twit the same thing at the same time after a meeting" maneuver. They legit behave like the propaganda arm of some shady political party. It is incredible how they can't ever display genuinity, not even fake it well.

>> No.69595071

lmao it's the same as the fucking #WeLoveGameDevs started to defend a woman who bullied people into suicide multiple times

>> No.69595097

>>69594956
>if you're an artist. There's less supply so your stuff will stand out more, and if you do get bullied (or not) you can super-chat about it to one of the talents and get a pity boost for your twitter.
Bro as an artists it is not worth this to kicked out out of the art circle for that. It's like short term gain to be completely fucked. Like maybe smalls will be ok with this, but bigger ones wouldn't want to risk.
I you get kicked out the large circle you lose out more on every sharing and shilling each other to help each other out You lose way more from leaving it.

>> No.69595099

>>69594983
Anon must be real poor then, Ayame's street rate is an ARS akasuppa

>> No.69595144

>>69594983
bro so esl im reading his posts with a thick chinese accent in my head

>> No.69595191

>>69595097
Art circles are glorified crab buckets, you're completely fucked by them either way.

>> No.69595204

>>69582693
I'm not even gonna be surprised if the Dokibird bullying situation gets memoryholed again with Niji trying to run easy good pr stuff like this until they have another situation where they actually bully a liver into successfully killing themselves.

>> No.69595241

>>69588036
when ?
selen even paid the artist and tipped when management delayed payment for months
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462?s=19

>> No.69595242

>>69595191
Counts on the circle. Being completely banend from the circles means you're pretty much omega fucked though.

>> No.69595265

>>69595071
We are being so positive, why are you against positivity?

>> No.69595336

>>69595047
>has been on 4chan for almost a decade now
>is likely older than this entire board
never asked for a personal army nigger ive already grabbed some of her stuff and began posting it elsewhere even got some ais training on her art

>> No.69595395

>>69595204
nah their fucked come march

>> No.69595412

purple grug no pay hand painting grug

>> No.69595437

>>69595412
too obvious, please put some effort

>> No.69595473

>>69595336
holy underage
I bet you haven't done the AI training shit either
walk the talk you baby ass motherfucker

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>>69595204
>memoryholed
If they think they can memoryhole the fact it came out they don't actual pay artist they are in for a rude awaken. I legit think they were trying to get art for the upcoming events and such and a lot of artists are just ghosting them and they will keep ghosting them from now on.

>> No.69595531

>>69595437
That was the point you mongoloid I'm making fun of the sisters

>> No.69595562

>>69595336
>almost a decade now
Thanks for admitting you're an election year tourist.

>> No.69595570

>>69595473
Its walk the walk you esl retard

>> No.69595573

>>69591092
Daph only got clowned on because the general twitch public still hates her for her "snow roach" comments about white people during the whole stopasianhate thing
if it wasn't for that she would have been fine.

Ironic though, all these people who do stupid shit like this for clout see it come back to bite them when they try to cash in on that clout

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>>69595570
Take your (You), dumbass
Don't reply to me again

>> No.69595625

>>69582693
They really do act as a cult. Sad kuronoises

>> No.69595680

>>69582693
hahaha this is so fucking retarded

>> No.69595734

>>69590931
>Cancel your booth at the last minute because you dont have anything to sell besides Nijiart
>You're now blacklisted from most cons booths
now what?

>> No.69595871

>>69582693
Cult behavior

>> No.69595933

>>69586757
Oh no no no sisters....
Is this the campaign they are working on?
Too obvious sisters... *sigh*

>> No.69596075

>>69595573
Mah she said some stupid stuff that could legally implicate her if this does become a legal battle

The racism didnt help though, because she has 39 IQ

>> No.69596085

>>69590670
go back trannytourist

>> No.69596099

>>69587095
Le retard de esl sisters

>> No.69596112 [SPOILER] 

>>69594683
You're a retard. Multiple members have said they pay for the art in their thumbnails. Wilson paying an artist for a fanmascot is still Wilson paying an artist

Unlike Selen, they don't preach to the choir about paying artists. They just do

>> No.69596196

>>69596112
>Be hired by a company
>They don't pay you
>Random employee has to come out and pay you
I'm not working for that company again

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Anyone have the screenshot where Nina accidently leaks her Discord and she's asking her manager if she should repost a tweet for more engagement? Their tweets have always been heavily controlled by management.

>> No.69596254

>>69595573
You're roughly as smart as daph kek

>> No.69596302

>ESL posts getting serious replies instead of telling them to fuck off
>Anons posting grammatically correct posts get called ESL instead
I'm getting tired of talking to them, if I'm going to be honest

>> No.69596343

>>69596196
>Be employee
>Don't want to work on own thumbnails
>Hire artist to make thumbnails for you
>Company allows this

You're genuinely stupid if you think the company hires people individually for the thumbnails. Some members even talk about themselves and their thumbnail artists being friends

>> No.69596368

>>69596302
I said this in a thread before. The sisters somehow learned of the word ESL and just randomly throw it wound without knowing the actual meaning

>> No.69596474

>>69596343
Ok and what about the other artists who came out being hired by the company and not paid?
"Well you see this one time they got paid, look how good they are" No that's not how the real world works. You don't want to work for a place with any kind of track record whatsoever about not paying

>> No.69596609

>>69596474
They're retards who assumed because a member of Nijisanji came to them and commissioned them for art that it meant Nijisanji was going to pay them and not the member. Every Japanese Vtuber corporation does this but tourists wouldn't know that

>> No.69596760

Et tu, Vivi?

>> No.69596778

>>69596254
ok thanks for the input daph you're still a retard for making racist comments to try to farm clout and engagement

>> No.69596785

>>69596609
Anon I want to point out to that artists that complained were sent contracts by Nijisan to sign? So that means they were contracted by Nijisan. You know that Hololive and Niji J[ itself not just members does in fact contract artists, right?
Are you retarded? Do you want a free (you)

>> No.69596796

>>69595473
>underage
anon you do know there are people over 30 year who are into vtubers right?

>> No.69596889

>>69596785
no they werent, niji dont pay for thumbnail art, lots of other members say this

>> No.69596898

>>69596609
Yeah, the people who got sent literal NDAs just imagined it too. Are sisters even trying?

>> No.69596902

>>69596609
Mmmm rikus cock

>> No.69596935

>>69596785
Of course Niji sends contracts for the artists to sign so they won't disclose personal information of the members of Nijisanji since the members pay them out of their own wallet. Do you think they have "Vantacrow Bringer" on their bank account?

>> No.69596986

>>69596889
i'd like to point out thumbnails aren't mentioned anywhere in that post

>> No.69597001

>>69596935
Good for you anon, I hope Nijisan enjoy being ghosted by most artists. You're not going to convince them with this argument

>> No.69597003

>>69596889
Were they lying about being sent contracts, then? If so, why?

>> No.69597094
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this type of false flagging was common way back during Philippine elections
does Millie actually have connections to those "online troll farms"?

>> No.69597124

>>69597001
Oh no! Not Western artists! What a big loss.
Surely the Japanese company wouldn't want to hire cheaper and less whiny people to work with.

>> No.69597173

>>69597124
And there he goes outing himself. I guess Ai it is for them.

>> No.69597205

>>69597094
Or the retard made an account so he could shit on people without having it lead back to him so he wouldn't catch shit for it. But sure, let's go with your retarded theory

>> No.69597308

>>69597205
>erm there's no way a large corporation or country would make bots to astroturf
you poor naive fucker lmao
about half of reddit is unironic JIDF bots replying to each other and I wish I was joking.

It's the sad state of the internet now

>> No.69597364

>>69597205
who the fuck would make a burner account just to shit on the most bottom of the bottom tier livers in nijien and then just self-delete instead of spamming racial slurs until the account gets banned

>> No.69597385

>>69597308
Nice conspiracy theory. Any evidence besides " communism good" and "because I think so" ?

>> No.69597437

>>69596935
>Niji sends contracts because talents pay with personal accounts
why the fuck would they do that lol?
no other org does taht . Both Hololive and Vshojo have a monthly stipend for projects the talent can use and if it goes beyond that, they either get funding approval from management, or it's witheld from their future payouts from the company.
Other companies have figured out you can just pay through official Hololive/Vshojo accounts and it will be safer and more secure so why would Niji not?

>> No.69597441

>>69597205
Nijisisters trying to be stealthy is the equivalent of wearing a groucho marx mask.

>> No.69597507

>>69597364
The retard was a salty (here) that felt betrayed that Vivi was in on the whole group thanking of fan artists that stuck around. He didn't actually expect for his schizophrenic babbles to get noticed so he deleted the account out of shame.

>> No.69597562

>>69597364
You would be shocked what people do outta spite.

>> No.69597615

>>69597437
That's just blatantly wrong about Holo. They talk about paying out of pocket for their projects all the time. Vshoujo doesn't count themselves as a proper corporation either

>> No.69597619

>>69597507
>The retard was a salty (here), source: my ass

>> No.69597667

>>69597364
You wouldnt even get banned for the shit you mentioned unless enough people report

This just reeks of falseflag desu

>> No.69597675

>>69582693
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills but that story is the most tame shit ever. How is that bullying or harassment?

>> No.69597706

>>69597615
>Vshoujo (sic) isn't a real corpo
bait used to be believable

>> No.69597731

>>69597094
One account is hardly a troll farm

>> No.69597741

>>69597675
That's just what being a drama-addicted tranny does to your brain. They consume too much porn and too much drama so they need to see more to get that dopamine high

>> No.69597766

>>69597615
>They talk about paying out of pocket for their projects all the time
But they also talk about the company handling. They literally say they get a certain amount paid for them and even if they do a personal project they will find and contract artist and such for them. They pay for them and bill stuff later to make everything easier for them.

>> No.69597809

>>69590670
this niji psyop is so sloppy it stinks of manufactured shit, so you're either a nijisister sucking tatsumi's dick or under room temp IQ retard

>> No.69597959

>>69597766
Prove that the company actually helps pay for personal projects. Multiple Holomembers say the money they get from streams goes back to personal projects a lot of the time

>> No.69597992

>>69596368
>randomly throw it wound
So esl that his "r"s turn into "w"s even when typing. Its so over esl bro.

>> No.69598021

>>69597364
??? Have you met people? Retards do this shit all the fucking time

>> No.69598062

>>69596112
multiple livers said they use fanart for thumbnails, I'm pretty sure most of the art used on thumbnails don't get paid with most art coming out only a few days prior to stream, and how slow we know management is

and I'm especially singling out how shitty wilson is because most livers at least have the goodwill to credit artists when they use their art for free

Wilson tried to cheap out for something that could be used for official goods by
A. not compensating the original design
B. NOT EVEN WANTING TO GIVE HER ANY CREDIT until someone told the artist and people stated to notice
3. being a lazy/cheap/nepo asshole who just went ahead made another artist plagiarize her

it just shows how entitled and how little respect he has for artists and how replaceble he thinks fans/artists are

selen on the other hand always credits, and has been vocal abt he she prefers supporting artists that support her, the difference is starking

>> No.69598191

>>69597959
Lamy did a stream talking about, Fucking retardo Laplus just did a fucking big thing saying they covered a lot of the cost, studio and some stuff still having her going into the red cause she dumb and had to pay for a bunch of other shit and no super chats or fucking monetized or anything. A lot of talents have said ye they do get a certain amount of things covered, it's not everything. Moona has talked about this pretty well.

>> No.69598313

>>69598062
>'m pretty sure

Didn't read the rest of that paragraph . I'm not interested in schizo rrats. Also Wilson says he wasn't aware that it was based off an already existing design then compensated the original artist for it. So, your whole retarded train of thought is out the window. The artist themselves confirmed that everything was handled and that they're fine with Wilson

>> No.69598460

>>69598191
We're talking about personal projects, shit head. Not company wide projects or 3D shit. The members obviously don't pay for the fucking studio, it's the property of the company.

>> No.69598478

>>69596609
https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462?s=19
get educated niji WAS supposed to handle the payments

>> No.69598500

I mean the correct way would be for the corpo to pay the artist.
This way the talent won't get doxed.
They could always take it out from the salary they pay their contractual talents.

>> No.69598601

>>69598460
Anon I am talking about personals project here. Lpalus's whole thing was a personal project. They still help her cover cost, studio, contact and got her artist, music and handled a lot of things. These are costs anon. I don't know what world you live in where they are aren't a cost, but it's a cool world.

>> No.69598641

>>69598313
Learn to read sister, wilson admitted he referenced kitty's design check his Twitter and how similar the art yourself

>> No.69598666

>>69598478
Are you retarded? That only proves some dumb artist assumed Nijisanji would pay them and not Selen herself. This also proves that she uses her own PayPal account that has her name on it to pay people which is why they sign contracts and agreements. Please stop being a mental midget

>> No.69598700

>>69598500
>I mean the correct way would be for the corpo to pay the artist.
>This way the talent won't get doxed.
>They could always take it out from the salary they pay their contractual talents.
That's literally way Hololive does it. I know cause Lamy talked about it on stream when she was doing her mech how the money just got taken off her salary that month and she was in the red for that month. since they do all of the buying and money handling for you on the company account.

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>>69583501

>> No.69598732

>>69598641
Wilson didn't draw the mascot, some other artist did because he can't draw. Your narrative is falling apart

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>>69597094
didnt search that good

>> No.69598879

>>69598704
>Fulgur initiated this conversation
Remember he went to his PL to talk about Scarle's wellbeing when she was gone during Valentines?
I don't trust him anymore

>> No.69598883

>>69598666
now all the artists that actually interacted with niji supposedly lying?

the straw grasping know no bounds lmao

>> No.69598893

>>69598666
She says clearly that management was handling the payment in the tweet chain, you're retarded and nobody is buying your bad faith midwit arguments.

>> No.69598914

>>69598062
A lot of the NDF's Doki rants are dependent on her being an entitled streamer who just sits around and puts out low-effort voicepacks and uses art of herself uncredited, then spending the money on lavish vacations.

Unfortunately for them, she has an established history as an artist and event organizer who supports fellow creators and makes her own merch.

>> No.69598925

>>69595734
>Slap "Half of the profit will be donated to charity"
It's as easy as that.

>> No.69599179

>>69598601
>"So I asked management "I want to do a big tournament. Could you help me out?" They said "Sure, we're in this together "Once I got the invoice, it was about 30x more than expected

She never said staff paid for anything. More schizophrenia

>> No.69599240

>>69598732
>Cambridge dictionary, DESIGN: definition: 1. to make or draw plans for something
having a concept isn't the same as completing a design
and wilson already admitted to referencing the design when he asked another to basically redraw it with minor tweaks
> replaceable

>> No.69599434

>>69598893
No, she didn't. She said Selen told management to handle her payment and they didn't because it wasn't their responsibility to pay for Selen's art. Selen probably told them and the artist that management was supposed to pay for it

>> No.69599585

>>69582693
>literal who got harassed
>THANKS ARTIST
>coworker got admitted to hospital
>...
amazing

>> No.69599619

>>69599240
Wilson never said he was aware it was a reference and worked it out with all the artists. Stop being retarded

>> No.69599644

>>69598732
if he can't draw WHO drew the first visual he used to make his other artist heavily reference?

your argument is the only one falling apart here LMAO

>> No.69599654

>>69599585
>...
more like "lol AN ATTEMPT" and other fanfare
what a bunch of bitches

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>>69599434
>probably
Like in this case?

>> No.69599716

>>69599619
check his Twitter replies to kitty yourself, it's public knowledge that he admitted referencing on main

>> No.69599821

>>69589947
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY ART IS NOT A JOKE YOU PARASOCIAL FUCKS!!!!!!!!! THIS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>> No.69600017

>>69599684
Different case entirely first off. No one knows what actually happened behind the scenes secondly considering it's also equally possible Selen never told management what artists she was hiring for the video since she didn't send the video up until the day it was supposed to be released. Her late payment is what was stated in the termination notice. No other member has ever had an issue with late payments to artists

>> No.69601013

>>69600017
>Literally going "Doesn't count"
My sides

>> No.69601085

>>69587001
you might be onto something, anon. Sisters dismissing you sound scared rn. Something worth keeping in mind, definitely more analysis needed

>> No.69601199

>>69600017
>No other member has ever had an issue with late payments to artists
So you're saying management purposely fucked with her payments going through to artist to bully her then? Since they are going through management that ahs been sated and if its fine for everyone else then they are purposely doing it?

>> No.69601214

>>69600017
multiple artist have mentioned NDA was wrong multiple times, management definitely should know who's on board if they were competent

https://twitter.com/weeniedesu/status/1754600196103938462?s=19
management WAS supposed to send payments

last part is just speculation, but really, if an artist has an connections with their oshi currently in niji and is good enough to be paid on top of this, I doubt they would be brave enough to speak out if it means losing business opportunities with niji

>> No.69601242

>>69589780
ahh done deal

>> No.69601492

>>69600017
>No other member has ever had an issue with late payments to artists
Oh, so you are telling me that Selen was harassed by management?

>> No.69601586

>>69594398
now this makes a lot more sense

>> No.69601716

>>69601586
I said it was going to happen as soon as all of no payments to artists came out and the fact they're fucking up the contracts they sent them. Anyone that has worked in the larger art circles can tell you they fucked themselves

>> No.69601900

>>69594398
>>69594871
>>69595097
Okay this sounds legitimate because I know these circles exist and considering they attacked Selen who was pro-artist. Also, I genuinely believe the music video artists all talked to their friends and probably verified the leak privately. Seeing Selen in distress like that plus confirming a leak, you're done. No one wants to work with you anymore and I do think they're royally fucked with the bigger circles now.

Why Vivi and more have drank the kool aid is sad. This is the bed they lie in ig

>> No.69602353

>>69599684
wow that's a HUGE testimony. Bros????

>> No.69602434

>>69601900
I feel people don't know like artists, they all know each other and they talk to each other and a lot of them are friends. I see people being retarded going "Well is was up to her pay, so it's her fault it took a long time" or bullshit.
These people work with other big companies and it's all handled by management on company accounts and don't want to deal with your clown show bullshit of not paying on time and blaming on the employee when they know it's should be being handled through the company instead of this bullshit. They're not going to go after the person that actual paid them and artists are going to ghost you, they're not going come out in the open and say.

>> No.69602513

>>69601716
I do hear about how contracts are important and considering a big corpo is fucking up BASIC BUSINESS practices for artists, this PR is officially hollow and soulless.

Don't just thank the artists, fucking pay them and fix your retarded contracts. Tie up loose ends. I actually think if this was their next PR move, Nijisanji now has ZERO INTENTIONS TO CHANGE.

>> No.69602536

>>69584600
>can buy the chance to spill my spaghetti with my subpar f2p skills
where do I sign up

>> No.69602604

>>69602434
>They're not going to go after the person that actual paid them and artists are going to ghost you, they're not going come out in the open and say.
You and another anon mentioned that Nijisanji was quietly shadowbanned and blacklisted. I now believe it. It's over for them now

>> No.69602725

>>69602604
Anyone who has a lot of friends in these large circles or worked with these circles for years can tell this is just how it goes. .

>> No.69602742

>>69602604
Also seeing that from artists I work with in the games industry, everyone is doing it quietly, dont want twitter mobs on them

>> No.69602939

>>69602434
Ofc the artists are not going to come out swinging.
Did everybody miss them talking about NDAs?
The artists are under NDAs, duh.

>> No.69602944

>>69602604
Maybe some smaller artist that want be special artists that want feel bigger will come out and say they ban nijisan or whatever, but bigger professional ones? They're just going to ghost you and not say anything to not cause any problems out in the open since twitter is mainly used for a lot of them to advertise and contact people before having their discord contact, email or such.

>> No.69603002

>>69602939
Even not under NDA's they won't come out swing, since social media is mainly where they advertise and they don't want to shit it up.

>> No.69603110

>>69602944
It would be so funny if for the next few weeks Niji stopped showing any new merch or started reselling old merch because they can't find any artist willing to work with them

>> No.69603261

>>69603110
They can probably outsource to like some more shittier places for artist or AI. Even my friend is a very very large artist that does a lot of professional work with a lot companies for these type of thins was talking about Nijisan not paying artists and he's a flip. I personally don't see looking that good cause the first time I even saw it brought was by him in some discord I'm in with a bunch of pro artists.

>> No.69603562

>>69603261
Yikes.....

>> No.69603567

>>69595573
>general twitch
Nah, even people who were on her side for the "snow roach" shit are upset with her now

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