/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

OVER 400K SUBS LOST

[Anonymous No.]

They overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

Negligible status?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501119
Doesn't matter

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
DEBUT ANOTHER 10 WAVES

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Atleast Scarle has gained 6000 subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
> Scarle is the only active one to gain sub
Was her liking a Kurosanji comment that convincing ?

[Anonymous No.]

petra about to lose her 500k milestone

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>>69501086
Too bad most of those subs are bots.
The subs loss will slow down or even stop next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Scarle...

[Anonymous No.]

>NIJISISTERS WE ARE WINNING

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>>69501119
Me and my 399,999 bots

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>>69501086
Damn, they're still going down? We might actually get Millie and Finana (deservedly) below 500k.
I wonder if any of the livers feels a tinge of regret at their actions or if they still believe themselves to be totally in the right for speaking "their truth" about the traitorous purple dragon.

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>>69501174
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501174
Overwhelmingly because it's her birthday but that probably didn't hurt either.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501146
>>69501086
So, AT MOST 38000 people unsubbed (the most unsubbed is Selen), and you somehow say it's 400k subs. Or are you saying that 37000 people who unsubbed from Elira and 32000 who unsubbed from Millie are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PEOPLE?
You should become a banker.

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>>69501086
holy fuck it's STILL going down?
I would have thought it'd stop by now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Those are deadweight subs
And if they're not, they're just bots
If they're not bots, they're holofags subbing and unsubbbing
Not holofags? But they're still just 2% of the total subs
Even if they're more than 2%, they're negligible

-So sayeth the Sister, Mover of the Goalposts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501198
NIJICOPE

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
All these people leaving AND the loss in subs is really gonna make the branch totals look bled out

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501279
>Assuming all of them are overlap

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Why do you take pleasure in the suffering of others?

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>>69501086

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>>69501289
>subbing and unsubbbing
>Somehow make total sub count goes down by one
Get a load of this retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501330
Ask NijiEN that question, that’s how they got here.

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>>69501279
Nice cope but not everyone subs to everyone. I'm subbed to Gura and Ina, I unsubbed from Mori, and I was never subbed to Ame or Kiara. The people who just follow every liver regardless of whether they intend to watch or not are drones and are either diehard Nijifans who will never unsub or just to disinterested to bother going back to unsub over some drama.

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>>69501362
That's what a bunch of your fellow sisters said to me in another thread. Don't shoot the messenger.

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>>69501330
It's almost like some of these live streamers did exactly that too a extreme level, according to nijisanji.

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>>69501086
Really hope Millie goes to the 400k range but the drama is dying down already and she's returning so i'm not sure. Unless she says something incredibly stupid like Enna did in her members stream (high probability since they're both subpar IQ).

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501198
Yes, I bought subs for NijiEN months to years in advance so I could unsubscribe them at the most dramatic moment

[Anonymous No.]

doki is 4k away from beating elira's highest sub count ever and the month is not even over

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501330
Schaudenfraude is an ancient phenomenon

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder what the others think about Scarle regaining subs. If they even care, that is.

[Anonymous No.]

>they drop below milestones
>it'll take them months or years to ever hit those milestones again
>Even if they do, celebrating it again would be a major embarrassment

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Congrats Nijisanji! Let's go for 1 million!

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>>69501279
>AT MOST 38000
It's AT LEAST 38000. Maybe go back to school.
Also, I was only subbed to Rosemi, Aia and Petra.
And I would bet there are more people like me than there are flatrate subbers.

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>>69501086
>How many... How many subs have I lost anyway this year?
>Just... Just 67 thousands okay? That's not much!

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[Anonymous No.]

>>69501496
>picrel
would you open up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Guess Petra will fall below the 500k too huh.

[Anonymous No.]

Scarle seems okay with it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
I was indifferent to Niji and watched Selen during Vsai but now I just want them to be fucked

[Anonymous No.]

Let's be honest, they should be happy that the drama frogs are gone.
Please don't come back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501279
>at most 1.3 million people total subscribed to anyone in niji, dead subs and duplicate accounts included
I didn't know nijiEN had that little reach

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>Rushia got fired
>Branch stay relatively safe
>Selen got fired
>Entire branch on fire
I say it's a Niji win this time

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
I don't care. My poor Elira is innocent! I'll never unsub her! Your menhera Dokibird ruined everything because of your selfish ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501933
Those lost milestones are pretty rough honestly

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501576
Aster is definitely fuming

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>>69501174
>liking Kurosanji comment
>refusing to retweet Elira'a video
>fuck these idiots for leaving it to me to make my own daki

Don't be led astray by the"single-issue" NDF Hasbara, they used it before to try and make the last straw of Last Cup of Coffee seem like the only straw

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>>69501279
While you are correct that we can’t know the exact number of individual accounts that have unsubscribed, due to there being overlap, and thus that assuming that every single subscription is an individual account is erroneous, it is equally erroneous to assume every single unsub can be accounted for by overlap. Ergo, we can prove that you are, in fact, a retarded double nigger.

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>>69501941
Anon, you don't sound deranged enough to be a sister. That's how much the average sister glows

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>>69501279
the active nijien audience is about 20k so it's even fewer
shouldn't be forgotten that their subs was built on people subscribing with multiple accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Seriously tho, what do you anons think would be their next best move here?
Feels its over to some of them(specially elira and box)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Holy fucking kek. Niji EN will continue to be shit on until it's dead.

>>69501198
Sister, I don't think bots are unsubbing.

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>>69502083
Probably a bdsm AV debut under the name of Nijisanji company to recover the loss.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Buy into satire coin and start make fun of yourself

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Their fan base is just as toxic as they are. It's never been so over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502104
If a 1M+ subs account goes below 1M, will a bunch of YouTube people come to your house to get the golden plate back? Well, I guess in Niji's case they're gonna raid the office.

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>>69501086
The subscribers are graduating lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>counting niggers who left already
Here's a fairer account, which is still pretty damning, of the impact the shitstorm ahd on NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502142
it'd need more episodes than one piece to recover the money they've lost

[Anonymous No.]

Wait how is this still going on? This is from a couple days ago Shirley

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Keep streaming normally. The vast majority aren't going to believe skitzoposts.
They'll only be in trouble if Selen specifies what kind of bullying happened and who did it.
Which I hope she does if it did happen.

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>>69501086
400K DORYAAAAAAAAAAA

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>>69501576
I'd like to think they've got bigger issues on their mind but seeing as this whole clusterfuck was caused by them not 'getting perms' for their own IP some of them are probably mad AF

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>>69501086
Negligible to profits

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>>69501119
Everyone knows. Nobody's saying they don't, dumbass
>>69501279
You're a dumbass and don't understand how numbers work. It's not 38k at most, it's not 100% overlap

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>>69502204
>fairer account
>lost 1.9 mil subs
lmao
you sure you want to go that route

[Anonymous No.]

This is a genius move honestly. Now they can't leave the company because their reputation will continue to be tarnished outside of it. Niji is forcing everyone to take their side.

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>>69502291
>The vast majority aren't going to believe skitzoposts.
Well if the whole Scalre/Aster thing taught me anything it's that management is /here/ and WILL react to schizoposting

[Anonymous No.]

SEND IN THE NEXT WAVE

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502365
>outside of it.
The main involved are fucked in and out of the company for a decent long while.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Accelerate.

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>>69502083
>what do you anons think would be their next best move here?
Expose everything the clique did and fire them. Fire the staff members who were complicit with the clique, too. Riku gives another public statement that things got bad in the EN branch because he failed to supervise it properly. Deep 10 second bow followed by a promise to make sure it never happens again. Announce that EN will be formally dissolved and the remaining talent well be absorbed into the main branch so they can be supervised better. That's the best Niji can do to put out the fire.

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>>69501141
Negligible

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Niji had a chance to get rid of 6 talents who are at fault. Instead they decided to numerically kicked out the smaller but good part of NijiEN. Pikachu surprise face when everyone calls them out on it. It's over.

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>>69502210
They're already clapped out roasties. Imagine how clapped out they'd be after 1000+episodes

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>>69502083
The only thing they can do is kill off the EN branch. Their trust is at a all time low from everyone, shareholders for lying about negligible hit to their profits, fans for lying about everything, livers for skinwalking as them and forcing them into shit that shouldnt concern them

[Anonymous No.]

Would they even care that they're losing subs? NijiJP actively loses and gains subs all the time that they're basically stagnant.

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>>69502291
It's tipped over into main stream, the people who would have no clue will only recall, o it's a Black company drama.

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>>69502450
Investors won’t have that.

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>>69502450
>Announce that EN will be formally dissolved and the remaining talent well be absorbed into the main branch so they can be supervised better. That's the best Niji can do to put out the fire.
this is a bad fucking idea

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>>69502570
Investors should be livid right now anyways with how shit they've handled this so far. But again, language gap strikes again and it's easy to toss this all in the bin. I fucking love the fact they didn't want to come anywhere near translating that message to Japanese on their official Riku message at all.

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>>69502586
You should've thought about it before you turned the branch to shit Elira

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>>69502570
Getting rid the clique and all who conspired with them would make Nijisanji more profitable and stable in the long term. Investors like it when companies remove liabilities.

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>>69502366
Anon, you might need glasses

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502693
Before: 14.054.000
After: 12.240.000
Go back to school kid

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501362
>>69501456
sub +1
unsub -2

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502586
>>69502570
Investors definitely want to keep the branch that cost them 200m despite only making 14.7% of the money and declining

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
More importantly those were active subs, people who cared enough about nijien to actually keep up with the news.

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>>69502720
Yeah, because he removed accounts of livers that no longer exist from the count fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>only active in the green
She can't be stopped!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501356
On the bright side she can do another celebrate stream

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>>69501174
>>69501997
The other big thing is xsoleil was so late that most people had already kinda checked out.
I still can't believe how absurdly fast they expanded thinking it'd be just like 2018 Japan when vtuber streaming was brand new.

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>>69501086
>Petra 501k
Oh no. Oh nononoo, not again

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>>69502740
after ID, KR and IN already died?
getting rid of EN would be admitting nijisanji can't into overseas expansion at all (which should already be clear to anyone, but still)

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>>69502808
ooops, meant that as in lots of people hadn't even subbed to xsoleil or looked at them much in the first place, niji was pumping out livers and they all just fell by everyones wayside, and lots of male fans only really ever cared much about the first 6 anyways.

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>>69501198
Those 400k bots? All me.

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>>69502856
I don't remember typing this.

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>>69502083
Best course of action would be KNEELING to the west. Unlike coco situation where million schizo chinese nationalists wanted her to get fired west doesn't really want much except nijiEN getting better management and support. Which is action that will IMPROVE your reputation in both EN and JP spheres instead the other way around.
Then regarding the clique... If Elira actually was involved with management and got preferential treatment they have a bunch of options like termination etc. It's honestly hard to tell the best course of actions with her without knowledge about circumstances of black screen stream.
At least they should fire everybody involved with this PR disaster - all thr managers who approved termination notice and elira's stream.
If it was all Elira they still can leave her in but detach her from any kind of managerial role and stop preferential treatment (outside of common sense one).
They should make more public statements too - nothing too crazy but acknowledge problems with EN management and demonstrate what kind of actions were taken and what can be expected.
But honestly? NijiEN stagnated in the end of 2022 already. It's hard to imagine how they actually can turn things around.
I think no matter how much normies SEETHE about idol culture and shit... mixed gender generations and corpos are just not that attractive. Especially for paying customers.

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>>69501158
NOT FAST ENOUGH! 20 WAVES! IN A MONTH!

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>>69502828
correct. the winning move for Niji is to say overseas markets are too problematic and double down on JP and china

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>>69502965
Not a winning move as it contradicts Investor's growth.

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>>69501177
It also looks possible Finana might dip under it too but not immediately, depends on if this downward pressure continues for another couple weeks.

The real interesting thing to see will be if Doki will cap Enna's subs, it looks near-certain at this point but it hasn't happened yet. Selen already was the lead girl with like 800k previously, so in theory she should easily do it, but in practice that involves getting a larger-than-expected carryover of her fans over to Doki. with them being mobilized like this and with so much attention being brought to her however, she has a massive wind on her back.

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>>69502828
More incentive to cut EN branch actually, after realizing they don't want to deal with gaijin culture that don't tolerate their bullshits

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>>69501279
Laugh all you want but that's similar to the math corpos fall for when they pay for sponsorships based on big sub counts, often overpaying for middling dead channels (like Elira).

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>>69502631
it's still not the best course of action
>>69502740
people said it before company valuation is made with successful western expansion in mind. Giving up on that will tank their stock even more.
Because if company can't learn from its mistakes and expand then what the fuck is the point?
(and by the way... there's always "hololvie might return to china" looming over them... which will send their valuation even higher meanwhile niji already kinda struggling with their chinese branch)

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>>69501279
nta but the inverse of that is "did you think 500k of elira's subs and 500k of enna's subs were legitimately all different people" - it's pointless to make because we don't know how many are shared in a pool. yes it's a ton, probably a huge majority for many girls, but we don't know how what's what per girl.

also notably Selen ran in a rather independent fashion from the rest of the branch and with her having unique skills, probably has one of the less-shared fanbases in the branch, and we're seeing the benefit of that now in how fucking rapidly she is growing. for a lot of her fans if it's her or the entire nijiEN branch, that's not actually a tough choice to make at all.

[Anonymous No.]

How do they justify the en branch? Who is pushing the sweatshop merch there?

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>>69501576
The growing gap between her and Aster is funny

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>>69501576
They're all number obsessed shits, so they think about it quite a bit.
I really just want to know what they plan to do to tackle all these problems. God forbid they release another message at some point this coming week.

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>>69502720
Anon, you might need glasses AND meds, learn to read retard >>69502204

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>>69502965
>china
>not overseas
still admitting that you can't expand your business over your home country is admitting defeat to investors. they people only care about money

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>>69502083
terminate elira and everyone in her clique, fire all of 'management', sue them into the dirt, file criminal charges against them, then close EN and sell remaining livers their models and associated IP for a dollar

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>>69502083
At this point the best would be to just shut up and wait out the storm, the public will turn turn back eventually. Though some things need to change to make sure blunders like this don't happen again, that should all be kept in the background, they should never admit to any wrongdoings.
Then in a few months, release a new wave. Let them be all male or all female, nobody likes mixed waves.

[Anonymous No.]

>All this nijicope
Friendly reminder 80% of a channel's subs are dead subs meaning the people unsubscribing where active viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>69503059
Yeah, it's so funny when people assume that corporations are perfectly rational actors. They get scammed every day too.

[Anonymous No.]

You should look at he video counts as well as the sub counts, they're trying to cover up shit

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>>69501086
Why is there another big wave of unsubscriptions today? Like sure, Elira deserves to take the brunt of this shit, but why did she lose 17k today if she's only lost 31k in the last 7? It made sense when it was the day of the announcement that torpedoed her career, but what happened today?

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>>69503517
>>69503075
>>69503016
There is no argument to be made that the west is a growth vector for them, they were already declining before this, new waves were flopping and half a wave of new talents quit before even debuting
It would take years just to get to where they already were let alone grow again, it's an area of contraction not growth

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>>69503939
people tuning in for scarle's bday got rec'd the 'scarle is BASED' vids?

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>>69501279
It's impossible to know the overlap and thus what the actual number of people is. Maybe 60k or whatever. But to pretend it's 400k people is just as silly, yes.
If a new person finds hololive and subs to everyone it would be weird to write "hololive gained ~60 subs tonight" as well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504208
subs is subs, every one counts for the algo, a big downward trend is going to torpedo nijisanji is a whole, they'll probably have to exclusively move to twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501279
Sisters out here bringing out every cope in existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Wait, the dudes in this company have the highest subscriber counts?
What in the fuck kind of backwards company are they running?

[Anonymous No.]

>look how many subs we have yay!
>people start unsubbing
>hey this is actually not... uh.. you know.. all people, it overlaps you know uh... *fart*

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504389
It's almost as embarassing as them thinking 13k was less than 1.9k

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504392
chinese women are fucking insane

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504392
Manjisanji. Even YAGOO recognized that two years ago in an interview

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504392
Western guys don't want to watch Western women being Western women, but Chinese women want to watch Western guys pander to their Eastern pussies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504392
Female fans flock to niji and mal3 fans to holo. Unintended niche partitioning taking place, and it's not a new phenomenon, niji has been "manjisanji" long before luxiem debuted.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69503517
Nijisanji is chinese, 60%of it is owned by the chinks

[Anonymous No.]

In these stinking chink slant eye countries where vox and Ike fans are located, you can't watch porn. Now men can just get a whore to fuck for the price of 25cents but these ugly ass glasses wearing awkward pimply yeast pussy nasty ass chinky slant eye teen girls can't watch porn in china. These disgusting unwashed ministers literally masturbate to voxs disgusting ugly voice doing voice erp with them all in a group. It's fucking nasty. Nasty women from a nasty country. They're all ugly too so their parents have given up on them they will never get married or have children so they schlock to voxs ugly fat ass burping in their pussies in some nasty yeasty sister roleplay. Disgusting menhera scum slant eyes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504773
holy verborrhea. i lold

[Anonymous No.]

>>69503712
It was mostly dragoons/holobronies unsubbing from the livers, not exactly their own fanbases. Viewership doesn't seem to be affected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Their talents are still very popular.
If they show signals of change and the talents talk about being happy, it's smooth sailing for nijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504594
>Chinese women want to watch Western guys pander to their Eastern pussies.
that's hot

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>>69503988
there is tho
>There is no argument to be made that the west is a growth vector for them, they were already declining before this, new waves were flopping and half a wave of new talents quit before even debuting
this is true but it's on management for not adapting to post covid world
>It would take years just to get to where they already were let alone grow again, it's an area of contraction not growth
But it's the same with their JP market, Shit's saturated as fuck with constant threat of hololive eating bunch of your market. JP branch is also stagnating.
Without any promise of proper foreign expansion their valuation goes straight into the garbage. I think it's undeniable

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501289
>Less than 2%
LMAO THE YATCH DEMANDS ITS DUE

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
They also lost Selen und Kyo so you can add another 1,2M subs to that

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504719
do you think investors won't tear them a new one over a loss of 20% of revenue from nijiEN?
they will eat niji alive

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>>69504773
>These disgusting unwashed ministers
Pretty sure you meant spinsters.
>so they schlock to voxs ugly fat ass
Almost certain you meant schlick there. Schlock means cheap or trashy, but it still doesn't quite fit here.
Otherwise I have no problems with what you said, just want to make sure you're taken more seriously while you speak the truth.

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>>69502777
And this means they lost these subscribers, do they not?

[Anonymous No.]

im suprised it even got this far. normally boycotts or "cancellings" in the animesphere are lukewarm at best. mostly gacha related though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Outrage has a lifespan of about 2 months. If there are no big controversies over the next two months, things will go back to normal for them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505114
Damaged Image is eternal
While hate will basically all but disappear, viewers that have lost the hope in niji will never come back

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Not enough. Need to get Enna under 600k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501576
sigh

[Anonymous No.]

>Those are deadweight subs
>And if they're not, they're just bots
>If they're not bots, they're holofags subbing and unsubbbing
>Not holofags? But they're still just 2% of the total subs
>Even if they're more than 2%, they're negligible

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Elira must be at nearly a year’s worth of lost subs. Holy moly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501174
Selen got fired for that, so...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504824
>Viewership doesn't seem to be affected.
LOL
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505098
P:aradoxically niji managed to summon a taiwan tier shitstorm but from the west. I thought such fit is impossible.. silly me

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501356
>thank you for 500k
>hasn't reached 500k yet

what did she mean by this? is she stupid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
If they fire Enna I'll start watching them again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505114
>will go back to normal for them.
normal? so stagnation with 0 interesting things going on?
if selen isn't there to organize events and network with other communities wtf do they even have left lol?
even simps will think twice before donating to somebody who can be gone any minute because of shitty management or cliques or whatever

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Hows the new gen doing?
With their short period in the company I feel like they shouldn't be really targeted and continue trying to live in their own bubble for a while, like a more neutral party standing between the defiant ones like Scarle and the older compliant organs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505309
sisters is this real.....

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505098
See, the thing is, in those cases you didn't have a black company drive one of their talents to suicide twice, then put out a constant stream of callous ass covering and own goals over the course of ten days

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504824
>holobronies unsubbing from the livers
bold of you to assume holofans were ever subbed to shitshow that is niji LOL
spoiler - we weren't

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502193
riku will pull out his signature sloppy toppy move and it will all be forgiven

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>>69505313
It should've been impossible, but somehow Nijisanji was just that retarded.
Remember, the taiwan yab started with Coco showing her youtube analytics
The kurosanji arc started with Nijisanji putting out a three page long ass covering smear document containing multiple own goals, followed by "negligible financial impact", and topped off with another attempted smear campaign just when things are dying down. It's like they deliberately engineered the absolute best way to enrage the west

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505309
What were the numbers before the drama then?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505309
Those look similar to the numbers they were getting before the Doki fucking, tbqh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505385
People who were fans of Selen will move on to Dokibird. People who were fans of the still living livers will continue to watch them for them. Many of them couldn't care less. Even all this bad PR will be forgotten

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505567
higher than that at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501362
This actually worked back in the day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505385
Fix your esl. I can barely understand your post you SEAnig.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505582
that's pretty grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505589
Nigger you still have people bring up Aloe 4 years after she got harrassed by nijinigs. This is going to haunt you for as long as nijisanji exists

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505605
Vantacrow 1446 > 1334
ok??

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505627
Elaborate?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505309
>>69505605
Current ccv is not representative of anything because shitstorm is still ongoing. So people are tuning in for drama. It will last for a bit. We'll need to compare ccv like a month from now at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505589
>People who were fans of the still living livers will continue to watch them for them.
people got disillusioned HARD
and you assume more graduations are not coming which is not guarantee
it's much bigger than "selen fans moving on, niji fans staying"

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>>69505828
nijiniggers fall back on calling everyone ESL and sea when their assholes start bleeding, pay them no mind

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
kek, well deserved, nice going Kurosanji-Enslavement-Corp(TM)
>>69501198
>sub bots suddenly all unsubbing
holy shit (you) are probably the single most retarded faggot i've ever seen /here/

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505958
I think most sisters are Chinese and SEA

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506055
If they weren't retarded they wouldn't be nijiniggers

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505958
>esl defends his fellow esl
You faggots are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506207
Don't let the Nijinigger screaming ESL distract you from the fact that Nijisanji lost over 400k subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506285
>it doesn't matter that we are esl!
What a cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505389
lets just say, not good

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505909
Everytime a tiddy gfe streamer cucks their audience or announces their bf they also dont instantly lose their following
Lots of people are hopeful at first

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
What a shitshow. And all because Nji couldn't write a bog standard termination letter kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506575
Well Vivi seems to be doing okay but she was such a massive fan of Pomu and Selen I don't think the backlash is hitting her as bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506742
all they had to do was to shut the fuck up
And they somehow fumbled it so badly it actually made the west unite into a taiwan scale yab

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506777
yeah but what the point without her oshis being in?
it's like a constant reminder niji fucked and couldn't retain their best of the best...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506575
>Claude Clawmark
Fucking come on with these names already

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505309
*sigh* only 300 concurrent views on my LoL stream?
looks like scarle needs to be taught another lesson... *licks lips*

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506852
Yeah, she must be miserable if her whole reason was joining to be with them. Why I feel bad for her, it would be like kicking a puppy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504392
Bro, Nousagi used to fairly bow to Kuzuha whenever he came on top and celebrate when he was beaten by mere Minecraft streams, but those kingly days were eventually over

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505589
>People who were fans of the still living livers will continue to watch them
the mass string of 29 month subs using their monthly free message to talk shit about Elira was hilarious
Something tells me they arent going to be watching anymore

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506852
I dont have pity for Vivi, Selen was baiting with her graduation for over a year. Vivi is retarded or is larping as a dragoon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506986
ChatGPT is doing its best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505589
>People who were fans of the still living livers will continue to watch them for them
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506986
Are you expecting much creative ability from an Elira Nepo-hire? These faggots come up with their own names, don't forget.

[Anonymous No.]

I find it funny that pretty much everybody who was joining nijiEN thought that "it's like hololive but better cause no idol shit"... only to discover that it's not like hololive at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Release the next horde of livers!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507154
weren't they coping with the "they were forced" excuse?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507440
I don't get how so many fuckers decided it was a good idea to keep going for awful alliterations. "Ver Vermilion" for fucks sake that's gotta be one of the worst in all of fiction.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507440
>These faggots come up with their own names
Fucking really?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507590
Some holdouts were but lots are gone forever. they arent going to have literally zero viewers but it's going to be a massive decrease

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505605
Seanig really out here thinking he ate.

[Anonymous No.]

What would be your chuuba name, anon?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502377
It is now day 7 of the 3 day special operation against Dokibird.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Rare rapist

[Anonymous No.]

>>69506986
The nips. They thought it sounded cool in their native tongue (KUROUDO KUROMARKO!!)
But I blame their english speaking staff for not pointing out that the name sounded retarded for western audience....

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507641
yes, scarle mentioned that she originally wanted to be scarlet but made a typo and by the time she caught it, it was too much of a hassle to change ti

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Dong Hung Dong

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>>69507792
And who came up with "bandage" as a name? In which language is it cool?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507836
>scarle mentioned that she originally wanted to be scarlet but made a typo and by the time she caught it, it was too much of a hassle to change ti
Wow, that's fucking amazing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501330
i didn't choose to be born a sadist, stop kinkshaming me

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507641
The actual process:
>Audition
>Get to Round 2
>Choose specific model to audition for
>They have internal names for the model already
>Pass Round 2
>Rename the model to your liking or keep the internal name and change first or last name
>You're here now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507903
the retard himself

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Thursday the 20th

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Tapered tapeworm.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Gon Gooner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Ray Razzle Dazzle

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Dr. Tusko Jones

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Gaping Goober

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Vulva Vuvuzela

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>Niji livers need to either graduate or do "yabs" in order to gain subs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69508357
Tell me about the fish. Why does he wear the suit?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501198
They lost active subscribers, if anything now the concentration of bots or dead suba increased

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Douglas MacArthur.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Tye Wan

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504824
Tell me more about viewership numbers for Elira Pendora and Vox Akuma after the black screen shitshow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501576
All because of a like in comment that she didn't read and a stream reservation that she """"forgot"""" to postpone

[Anonymous No.]

>>69508485
The algorithm will see this and stop new people from seeing them
The people who unsubbed will get recommended them again and click "Do not recommend this channel"
The algorithm will see this and stop new people from seeing them even harder
It's basically impossible for them to recover now

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>>69508511
BASED BASED BASED

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>>69507903
Bandage came up with his own name.
The best part is that the French word for bandage is...bandage. It's a French loan word. Dude really picked a random object in his first aid kit because his kayfabe is that he's a magical doctor.
I would've suggested an intentional mispronounciation on "gauze" myself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Shootio shootgun
Throwio throwknife

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
My Niji name would be Sucklin Dikaso

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Graduate Nijisanji and trash talk the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Chupa Melpito

[Anonymous No.]

>>69509056
You could probably slip in Benito Camela and get it publicly announced before anyone notices with how absent niji management is

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Penn Islander

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Vaush Akuma

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Tchadvaege Tordenhane

[Anonymous No.]

everyone here unsub to petra so she can below 500k

[Anonymous No.]

>>69509819
I’ll consider it if you promise me you’ll practice your English more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69504824
dramabuff. once a few streams happen and they don't yab or talk shit about doki or nijisanji they will become 3view shitters

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505005
Nobody is denying that
Why do you think daddy Riku was bowing his soul out

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
why the fuck people keep unsubscribing? actual question, one would think that everyone that has a problem with this would have unsubscribed at the same time not in waves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510033
The news is still spreading. It's barely been a week since the black screen stream and Riku's apology. There are still people covering the news (and learning about it) like it's fresh. Because it is, being on /vt/ just gives you an accelerated feel of the news pertaining to vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510033
partially people just finding out
partially people who were hoping it was all rrats and there'd be explanations giving up and accepting the rrats as they get more solid

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510033
I'm pretty sure some of them were already shrinking beforehand.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>over 400k casualties
it feels like an all out war right now
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69509547
I miss Binky Bop Grepburg.

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOVTYXPRtfs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Vezalius Bandage

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501576
crackpot theory: desperate to recover, management tentatively greenlights a new strat in which livers vaguely signal they don't like Nijisanji so they can gain subs from people thinking they're "one of the good ones".

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502377

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510650
did he even acknowledge malfoy?

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>>69501086
On the good side, it must be arround 40-45k people that actually left, they are subed to many channels
On the bad side, thats 6-12 months worth of growth gone down the drain for man of them, and after this thing blows over and we go back to green numbers, it wont be as godo as before, unless something FANTASTIC happens, or they have a recording of Selen being an absolute bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
Assuming they don't disband all the organs completely, what happens when they cross the minor/major milestone thresholds again (500k, 550k, etc)? Will they celebrate it or let it quietly pass by?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507672
Anecdotally the discordfags that I share a server went with the muh proverbial gun pointed at their heads but also saw that the whole smear vid being posted on her channel basically ruined her image. Shame about her model tbqh

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510650
>Wactor tomorrow
Nice

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Romu Painruff

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510650
Is there a thread dedicated to it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Sux Cox

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510724
He did just now. Both of them came to the same conclusion that a suit from either side isnt worth it and that they shouldve settled

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>active nijinigs unsubbing
>all that remains are dead subs
What affect will this have on their ccv's going forward wow

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510945
NO NO NOT LIKE THIS DOOKIEBROS!!!

SHE'S SUPPOSED TO SUE NIJISANJI TO THE GROUND!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69511016
Consodering they've been streaming to the same numbers since this drama, nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69511191
now this is cope

[Anonymous No.]

reminder that the only thing that still stands is the rrat, because no lawyer said it is bogus.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69505098
cuz normally the people doing the cancelling are mouthbreathing morons on twitter or whatever that are not and were never customers of (thing) in question. See: the Hogwarts game.

In this case, the people who are pissed off are the customers. The supachatto senders, the merch buyers, the people who actually consume the content. Piss your main customer off and it absolutely will have an impact.

[Anonymous No.]

I laffed when supposedly an indie just gave up on graduating and joining the next organs when the shitstorm hit last week

[Anonymous No.]

>>69511300
Holofags and dramatubers still butthurt over getting striked aren't customers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Nig Giggerman

[Anonymous No.]

>>69511448
Did you hear about it in a dream?

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>>69511452
Of course not, but as the OP post shows clearly there were quite a few Niji fans that aren't happy about the situation.
Is it enough people to REALLY hurt their finances? Not sure, and clearly the male talents have the chink fujo market backing them up. I'd be interested in seeing the revenue they bring in over the next month, like superchats n stuff, see how much that changed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
SHIN SHITSKIN

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Appi Pipeda.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501489
BRAVO ANON
R
A
V
O

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
The Nijisanji JP streamers must be pissed that a bunch of smelly gaijin from some backwater branch just fucked their livelihoods in the ass with their stupidity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69510609
Me too. Still can't forgive Sony for fucking up Kotodama Tribe and Luna. Their group song was supposed to be Majo but the entire project fell apart. Majo was repurposed for Kaf(and VWP) and VWP's first song as a group was "Kotodama" an homage to the failed project.

[Anonymous No.]

Come on guys, surely things cannot get worse, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69512688
>Sony fucking up Kaguya Luna
Never forget what Sony took from us.

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>>69510748
The smart thing to do would be to just ignore it because celebrating the milestone again would just serve as an opportunity for trolls to remind them why they dipped below their milestone in the first place, but we all know that Nijisanji doesn't have a track record of doing the smart thing...

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>>69512688
>>69512853

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>>69501279
>just 38K people
Sister, that number of people could fill most Major League Baseball stadiums.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507962
>>69507641
Kronii's original surname was Gandr, but it was changed to Ouro.

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>>69511622
IMO this is absolutely going to hurt EN's finances. The people unsubbing are the hardcore vTuber fans - because that is who is aware of and following the Selen drams. Those types are the ones buying the merchandise and slapping down $100+ superchats and paying for memberships.

The fanbase for the males MIGHT be in better shape because that's who is principally involved in the NDF right now. But outside the Luxiem fans? They are in deep trouble.

The branch is unsustainable. Short of Riku leaving and Nijisanji being sold entirely to a private equity group or consortium of investors, I expect Niji EN to be folded up into JP in Q4 2024 or Q1 2025.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501167
Fukken based too bad her voice is more annoying than the chikin

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501787
The cope is strong with this one

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
That number font is so ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>69514067
>Gandr
And here I thought Kronii's name as is was stupid
Though imagine the male goose puns

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501198
See
>>69501489

Sisters really are retarded aren't they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
>Fire all of the old managers
>Get new managers that know what they're doing and aren't pushovers
>Let the clique stay (they're unfortunately too popular) but dress them all down in front of all of their coworkers so they know their place
>Agree to look over past transgressions, but keep them on thin ice, one offence = termination and make good on that promise so they don't think you're bluffing
>Actually be good at your job, get permissions, greenlight and fund projects so they'll at least accept you as harsh but fair
>Make a flowery public apology toward fans and Doki, emphasising the new management and pin all the blame to the old managers. This will absolve everybody important in the public eye
>People can now assume that the branch can be trusted again
>Continue with extreme tardwrangling until things calm down

[Anonymous No.]

holokeks dont get uppity

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
it's the same 30k butthurt faggots who were subbed to literally all of niji who unsubbed to everyone. cry more. drop in the bucket

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Best move is to cut Doki a massive check, have everyone sign NDAs, and issue a public joint statement in both English and Japanese (something ultra-simple like "the dispute has been resolved privately").
Assuming the GURRAT is real, force Elira and her cohorts to soft-graduate and work full time as actual management on management's pay (removing their conflict of interest while keeping them in the company, on payroll, and allowing them to appear occasionally).
>What if they refuse and try to bail
Then issue a polite statement outlining the basics of the situation and wish them the best. Something like this:
>After evaluating her longtime work as a provisional manager and translator within Nijisanji EN, Elira Pendora was offered the opportunity for a promotion within our company, but has opted to pursue streaming activities elsewhere instead. We hope that [completely unrelated streamer name] has a bright future ahead of her, and wish her the best in her endeavours.
>Also don't harass people ;)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69516270
holycope

[Anonymous No.]

>>69515553
>People can now assume that the branch can be trusted again
You would have to run the branch well for a considerable amount of time to fully repair lost trust. Maybe years. But yes, this is more or less the only way they could recover. If the gurrat is even close to true I wouldn't spare Elira though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69515273
>florida gator
Dropped.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501933
makes you think on who the true menhera is

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
Lee Vera/Vera Lee

[Anonymous No.]

at what point does this do algo damage?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507708
sharty shortlegs

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501235
millie's likely just an enabler

but fuck finana for the zaion thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501576
guess who's getting bullied next by the clique

[Anonymous No.]

>>69507836
Man that's hilarious, I thought the Bandage dude just got crewed by Corporate, but he made that up?! Amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>69515273
They're right though. The /pol/tard grifter was btfo by Malfoy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501279
So I'll defend you a hit sister but also attack your point.

Numbers can be manipulated to say anything. And Corporations speak outside both sides of their mouth.
According to Nijisanji their total number of subs across all Livers needs to counted together even though a good portion of them are dead subs and/or overlap where 1 person can become 5-20 subs. It's not nefarious or anything because subs do matter in the algorithm and for ads.
On the flip side they will say they only lost 32,000 people which is a marginal number if looked at by face value but they are leaving out that those 32,000 people amounted to nearly 400,000 subs.

It's a contradiction but it isn't lying. Everyone is manipulating numbers to preaent a truth. When the reality is those 38,000 people are 400,000 lost subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69519825
>preaent
Fuck off Mococo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502142
I'm pretty sure vox bdsm asmr is already a thing

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502828
they have chink stockholder daddies so the chink branch is pretty much here to stay

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502925
why would they leave her in if she's the manager that caused it lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502965
it would be so funny if enna was part of the chink branch
with her personality she'd fit right in

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
>scarle lost the least of all of them
goes to show you the best way to handle internet drama is to shut the fuck up and disappear until shit dies down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69520669
petra...

[Anonymous No.]

>>69515273
How are they calling people tourists when they're on a jp gossip site they've infested

[Anonymous No.]

>>69516553
not cope, just the truth. a very small vocal minority decided to just mass drop all of niji, thats obvious. as long as it doesn't keep plummeting its no big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69520643
backstabbing cliques wouldn't be a scandal, they'd be expected

[Anonymous No.]

>>69502083
Accept that their reputation is done and gone and keep on going as if nothing happened. Graduations will ensue but that has been a normal thing for Kurosanji in the past 2 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69501086
S-sugoi...

So when they said "All out war", it was actually a civil war.

[Anonymous No.]

But how are their stream numbers compared to pre drama?