/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>0 nominations at the streamer awards

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
who cares about circlejerk awards

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Coincidentally, they also have 0 nominations at other award shows that require you to pay for a nomination - eg the Red Dot Design Award.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>literal who awards run by western cucks and thots
0 nominations is a compliment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422704
>who cares about the streamer awards
apparently the 140 thousand people who watched it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>Twitch-centric circlejerking streamer awards sham show
Irrelevant

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
>And there are like 300k ppl watching Japan Youtube Awards that have Nijisanji and Hololive included while no Vshojo at all
So..what's your point again?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Pekora bought A FUCKING MONKEY

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422951
may we see it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
Wow that's only less than half the subs of the least popular hololive lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422704
You would if Hololive was nominated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
Most of them aren't there for the vtubers, infact most were probably cringing when they saw the vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Good. The minor league should stay in it's lane

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Vtubers are a pretty irrelevant part of that event as a whole. And holo has always existed on its own outside the western sphere, hope that helps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69423039
I wouldn't care in the slightest because of who runs the show.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
>140 thousand "people"

LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

What is even the benefit of earning those eop chuuba awards? Is there prize money or anything worth it? No? Why should i care?

[Anonymous No.]

It's a different market and platform with minor overlap in fanbase, it would be weird if the holo were nominated at all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>Create an award show
>Give myself an award
>I am now an award-winning person
Wow, surely this prestigious award is worth something and is not just a circlejerk disguised as a popularity contest.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
You mean "twitch awards"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69423011
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>Twitch award show knowing the name of any Youtuber

[Anonymous No.]

This should've stayed a /jp/ hobby

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422951
>nip awards
>300k ppl watching
Why are you lying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
>twitch inflated numbers
more like 140 people lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69423110
Yes you would. You'd be gloating because the other tribe didn't get any nominations.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69424908
This is called psychological projection. You accuse others of what's actually true about yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>haha you were not included in this event where I give a prize to myself
waow

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
>100k less than what a rabbit gets with puyopuyo tetris
Nobody cares, Twitch faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
Hololive's new year event doubled that, why should they care?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422704
Fpbp

[Anonymous No.]

the streamer awards were decided by fan votes rather than bought so there weren't any botlive nominations

[Anonymous No.]

>>69425313
>>69425341
All holo streams are botted. If you actually ask around vtuber fanbases anywhere around the world you won't find hololive fans anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Good, the last thing we need is more Twitchfags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69425905
you don't have to go outside just go to /#/ and see all the bart simpson graphs they started botting hard after the ipo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69424967
Everything is a projection. This is hardly a refutation. But both tou and I know where the truth lies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69424967
I don't care about these awards because I know my chuubas would never get nominated. I'm just here to shit on holofags.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69426311
Your no name chuubas will never be known by anyone because they're shit and not because the oh so evil holofags won't watch them.

[Anonymous No.]

Damn OP eating alot of (You)'s with this bait thread or alot of newfag here

[Anonymous No.]

>>69425905
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69426042
The truth lies exactly where I said it does. You care about these awards while nobody else does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
Way more than 300k if you also count the YouTube simulcast, and all the large streamers who were allowed to restream it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69427668
And 90% of those viewers don't give two fucks about vtubers, which most of you seem to be missing

[Anonymous No.]

>>69426885
On the contrary, my chuubas get recognized constantly on various JP awards. EN awards tend to be massive circle jerks organized by people who don't know shit about vtubing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559

threadly reminder twitch korea is shutting down this month.

ding dong subhuman whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Isn't that twitch only?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69428118
JP awards are fake.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>streamer awards
>streamer

[Anonymous No.]

>>69425804
Dyrbi

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>>69422559
>>69423039
>>69424908
fuck off gay faggot
these shitty normalfag awards go against the best and only strat which is to gate keep as hard as possible
go back nog

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>>69427668
>twitch "viewers"

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>>69422559
>#1 vtuber company not included.
>#2 vtuber company not included.
>#3 vtuber company not included.
>#4 vtuber company not included.
>#5 vtuber company included.
>None of the vtubers who quit the #5 vtuber company are included.
Uhhhh.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
spic awards had almost 500k viewers and was connsidered a huge failure

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Zero talents staying in in their English branch by 2026

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>>69422559
>twitch circlejerk awards
>holos barely use twitch (outside of mainly doing watchalongs and lacunny as an outlier)
it doesn't take rocket science to know that twitchfags doesn't know jack shit about chuubas on yt and vice versa

[Anonymous No.]

>>69428923
Good prediction

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
just staying in their bubble. it's honestly great for everyone that it's that way.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Holobronies. It's time to make a decision.
Are you the ultrapopular company that has all the numbers?
Or are you "totally not mainstream" and all the normies can fuck off?
You can't have your numbercake and eat it too.

[Anonymous No.]

this thing wasn't even popular amongst twitch viewers. it was a cringefest. no one care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69432576
Hololive is the ultrapopular company that has all the numbers where it matters, which is with the niche audience that doesn't reach the western normie streamer audience despite being hundreds of millions strong in Japan.
Hope that helps.
Now show me Marine posting herself dancing to an Ironmouse song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Idol culture bad, therefore people watching it only watch Ironmouse or some twitch vsluts. I guess Shylily or Vei could've won, but idk their content.

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>>69422797
Marine has 20k people watching her play fucking touhouproject RIGHT NOW lmao. This is not the own you think it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>Wanting a reddit frog trophy
I would burn it on principle

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>touching the virtual idol scene even with a 20" long pole
Blue haired gril streamers would have started to cry.

[Anonymous No.]

Vtubers are essentially prostitutes and aren't respected in the sphere of real entertainers

[Anonymous No.]

>the gang tries desperately to win an award
There is a spider (spider)
Deep in my soul (soul)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69435686
> Vtubers are essentially prostitutes and aren't respected in the sphere of real entertainers

That was partly true in japan until Suisei came into the picture and sang at The First Take. She alone changed the entire preception of vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
the streamer awards was so cringe that some retards tattooed asmongold's face on his chest and showed it off at the streamer awards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
The what?

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>>69422797
140k twitchfags, they arent vtuber fans

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Good. I want twitch streamer culture as far away from Hololive as is humanly possible. An insult from these faggots is the highest form of compliment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Alright, nijisister it’s time stop posting on here and to go back to Xhitter

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
"TWITCH CIRCLE JERK AWARD" for virtual "YOUTUBER"? why should they?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
It was 99% twitch flesh trash. Hololive gives zero fucks about it. Actually all vtuber corps except Vshojo give zero fucks about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Wow. Didn't realise that people take these awards show seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69435894
>I'M A 5-STAR CHUUBA!
>I WILL RATE EVERYONE WOMAN IN THIS PLACE!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
Why did this make people mad? It shouldn’t be a controversial take that the people who watched the streamer awards care.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>69427040
Nobody seethes like Holodrones seethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69428602
feels like your trying way too hard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69428760
Twitch is a joke

[Anonymous No.]

>meanwhile IBAIGOD streaming the LEC League finals for 250k
How can the "streamer" awards can even compete?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422742
/thread. op is once again a faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
they don't have connections with twitch pseudo celebrities. plus i don't see them spending the money to win an award like vshojo, that has been investing a shit load of money to get ironlung nominated in a bunch of award shows. this shit is all scripted trash.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69428760
Holokeks botting their streams was so blatant they made the nips VT news.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfvgRjtFlig

[Anonymous No.]

>>69441768
>be ironmousefag
>get butthurt that /#/ doesn't acknowledge your oshi
>bot every vtuber that gets posted there in retaliation because thats a reasonable thing to do

[Anonymous No.]

>>69441768
reminder that this is literally the work of one schizo guy who got upset because he wasn't included in the /#/ ciriclejerk tally.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69428760
>I always mute the stream
So I'm actually not contributing?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
The award was for people who stream, you know.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69433284
>hundreds of millions strong in Japan
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>69441768
kek

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>>69425905
All holo channels are suppressed in the algo
They have their numbers slashed in half at the beginning of every stream
Their viewers are being shadowbanned for posting emojis in chat
If anything their real numbers are much bigger than what we see on screen.
You are a mentally ill faggot

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>>69442050
Also he would NEVER bot his oshi ironmouse, ever

[Anonymous No.]

>>69442193
Holo education

[Anonymous No.]

>>69442193
holodrones caught lying again
it's so obvious that nobody actually watches then and it's all bots

[Anonymous No.]

The fans need to nominate them. If Gura plugged it, she probably would have been nominated. Only Holopro talent I saw even mention it was Bettel.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69442298
Cope holofaggot. If they were so popular they would at least get nominated but they don't. Why is that? Because they're not popular

[Anonymous No.]

>>69442524
>why werent they nominated at the twitch awards, hosted by vshojo
Truly a mystery. Its baffling how you think that nominating yourself is good

[Anonymous No.]

No one actually thinks ironmouse is more popular than Gura, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
This just means that the vtuber awards are illegitimate

[Anonymous No.]

>>69443459
She is though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>0 government contracts

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444149
in what metric?
because it's not subs, or views, or money made, or worldwide recognition, so what are we talking here

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444324
>subs
dead subs
>views
irrelevant to a twitch streamer
>money made
gura makes money for her company while mouse keeps 100% of what she makes
>worldwide recognition
This is where Ironmouse has all of hololive beat objectively

[Anonymous No.]

>hololive is botted
>but my vshojo and game award streams aren't
I can't tell if it's NDF deflection or retarded Twitch viewers at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444612
Its Vshojo shills that's all. Who can basically just be called shills for Mouse

[Anonymous No.]

>>69432576
>You can't have your numbercake and eat it too
I can. Now how will you respond to that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444552
>This is where Ironmouse has all of hololive beat objectively
And they said comedy was dead on this board kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444552
i accept your concession. nothing wrong with being popular on twitch and nowhere else.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69432576
twitch vtubers can't wrap their head around hololives popularity because they've done it while largely ignoring where the majority of the western audience is. they bring viewers to them, you need twitch to survive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444940
Why is she winning all the awards and not anyone from hololive? Why does everyone know her but not anyone from hololive?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
I saw this shit on Twitter, apparently the creator of the award show asked people to open the stream and "watch" it on mute, essentially viewbotting the stream, it caused some big drama

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>>69445283
No one in holo is trying to win these awards. No one in holo even mentioned this event. And in what world does no one know who Gura is? You just sound like a delusional clown. I think that's my favorite part; Gura is more popular while not even giving a shit while Ironmouse does literally everything in her power to get noticed.

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>>69446086
I didn't say no one knows Gura, I said not everyone does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69445866
I don't think you know what view botting mean.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
HOLY POGGERS THAT'S LIKE 2 PEKORA'S MINECRAFT STREAMS

[Anonymous No.]

>>69441768
Anon... the nips in the video are aware it's the work of a schizo anti

[Anonymous No.]

It was a cringe fest. Even livestreamfails is quite vitriolic despite being the target audience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69441768
Your smarts are on display again retard

[Anonymous No.]

i wonder why Hololive wasn't nominated in an event giga-sponsored by a Chinese company that blacklisted Cover, hmm
must be a coincidence.

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>>69422559
Wasn't it a twitch-only awards event? So being nominated would have been an indictment against hololive. Thank god, it got no nominations then. /shrug

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
surely they will all watch ironmouse the next stream kek, especially all those embeds

[Anonymous No.]

The cope from bronies is astounding. Maybe they should rename the company to Coper.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69446086
Of course she is more popular in numbers when her audience is 90% low quality SEA viewers with no money, Ironmouse clowns on her in income and networking for obvious reasons which is why she dominates all the awards targeted for the western audience. I don't watch either one of them but i know how different the markets are when it comes to merch sales, ad revenue and gifts/superchats.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69452892
This applies to every single person in hololive. It really makes you think where the fuck does their money come from when all of their fans are piss poor.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69446086
Who the fuck is this Gura? I don't give a shit about her/him.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69453147
It comes from corporate level sponsorships, actual commercially marketed goods especially in Japan and China but the talent sees none of that. Ironmouse is her own brand for the most part while Gura is a IP owned by hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69453485
The talents do have money though. Do they just whore themselves out behind the scenes?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
>people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ8eD66GlYA

[Anonymous No.]

>>69453806
It's Japan they don't consider it to be immoral there or even cheating for the most part. The culture around that is a odd one for a westerner.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>circle jerk award
congratulation i guess.

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>>69453237
>Who the fuck is this Gura?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlILzTSC2rI
https://youtu.be/KCsb-APHanc?si=g30wj4Vbe8gWgFQu&t=397
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3knFlhk_1Jo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444324
>worldwide recognition
It unambiguously is. The thing people fail to realize is that Ironmouse ventures outside the vtubing sphere while Holo doesn't. The amount of streaming communities aware of IM is insane. The big orgs (otk, otv), MCYT, speedrunning, FGC, FPS, many more ON TOP of the vtubing community. And that's before we get into TGA that had a whopping 2 MILLION live viewers. A non-exhaustive list of people that were there that are now aware of Ironmouse: Doug Bowser, Timothée Chalamet, Jordan Peele, Hideo Kojima, Matthew McConaughey, Gonzo, Christopher Judge, and whoever was watching at home like Guillermo del Toro. There is not a single person in Hololive that can compete with that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69452892
>implying people won't just use Gura instead of the whole name

[Anonymous No.]

vshojo really became niji2, toxic fanbase and all

[Anonymous No.]

>>69444273
>tranny
>who
>whore
>who
>who
>who
>who
>who
>ex holo
Great lineup

[Anonymous No.]

>>69455556
>and whoever was watching at home like Guillermo del Toro
Holy kek. Anon please, del Toro used to retweet fucking Anya's Death Stranding streams while Kojima was unironically liveposting Pekora a few months back.
How starved for attention must you fucking be to even bring that up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Good, Hololive is a vtuber and idol corpo not streamers

[Anonymous No.]

i dont get why vshojokeks are so mad? its as if holo lives rent free in your heads. Don't worry, Pomu, mika and kyo will be joining you guys soon so you can continue to be the vtuber retirement home. It's an important service after all

[Anonymous No.]

>>69456811
We are celebrating, you are seething about bait threads on /vt/. If Vshojo didn't live rent free in your head you wouldn't even bring them up since this is not even a Vshojo event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69456811
it's more that they are desperately clinging to any sort of relevence after Nyanners, Veibae, Silvervale, and Nazuna all ditched. Ironmouse and Henya are the only things anyone knows about them, and Henya is known more for her PL

[Anonymous No.]

>>69456690
He's completely right about the fact that hololive still has zero reach outside of the vtubing space.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457254
lmao, see you at Gura's aquarium

[Anonymous No.]

>>69455997
>>69456330
Oh yeah it's the Vshojo fan base that's toxic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457370
Only vtuber fans were going to go to that aquarium and if that's your only example of hololive doing anything to reach out then it's looking really bleak for hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69455997
The only thing that's missing is doxspam, but I'm sure they'll start doing that at some point too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457371
It is >>69453806 >>69454311
Why are you vshojo fans posting shit like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457519
Cope harder man, Gura transcended vtubing and became the next Hatsune Miku.

[Anonymous No.]

If Vshojo fans hate vtubers so much, why do they post on /vt/? Genuine question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
how many nominations did the golden 20 get?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457813
They don't and you are delusional if you think that's a genuine question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457754
Where are all the people singing Gura's songs then?

[Anonymous No.]

Shitposting aside, can someone explain me why she keeps bleeding viewers if she's winning all those awards? it doesn't make sense

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457254
Which is a good thing, western ecelebs are a cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457860
I ask because every time I see both sides arguing, it seems like Vshojo fans are way more invested in "streamer" culture than "vtuber" culture and like to criticize other fans for doing the opposite. Again, genuine question.

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>>69457860
Then what's this? >>69453806 >>69454311

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457254
The fuck does that even mean?
It's true that most holos don't try to network nearly as hard as ironmouse does, but that doesn't prevent them from being discovered by people outside the industry. See Biboo with Casey Edwards for a recent example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457891
didn't they fix embed abuse recently or something

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457254
and that's a good thing, normies stay away grr

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
NijiGODS keep winning

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457977
Your perspective is twisted because you enter bait threads and take everything in there as facts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69442298
imagine being a hololive watcher and still having a victim complex about numbers

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458144
So every thread where both are mentioned is a bait thread?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458035
It means hololive isn't know outside of the vtubing space. Nothing hololive does makes them visible to people on the outside if they're not actively searching for vtubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458207
If you are genuinely interested in the perspective of vshojofags go to their thread. That should come without saying because anons love to falseflag.

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>>69448239
The whole arguement against twitch is you can open the same stream 8 times and have 7 of those tabs on mute not even on your screen and you would be counted 8 times. Youtube culls that shit and you would only count on your main screen

[Anonymous No.]

>>69456690
>>69458035
Notice how I said a non-exhaustive list. If you want, you could counter with Fubuki and Laplus' celebrity interviews, but those are still one-offs. This isn't a judgement call, it is objective fact that Ironmouse is more well-known by virtue of appearing in places where non-vtuber fans exist. If you want to argue it's better Hololive stay in their bubble, great. But then don't complain they aren't getting recognition outside that bubble with some exceptions like a mid-tier band member or game dev taking notice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458144
So these threads are invalid examples of vshojo fans but they're totally valid examples of hololive fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458396
That's not how it works.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69447969
not him but
>Why does everyone know her but not anyone from hololive?
you said "but not anyone from hololive?"
which implies no one knows Gura nothing about "not everyone does"
are you perhaps retarded?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458496
It's really impressive how confident you are while touting that what you believe is an "objective fact" despite not knowing anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458591
If I make a bait thread specifically worded to create hate against hololive would you think that I was a genuine hololive fan?
Genuine question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458261
That is true for every vtuber, it's just the limit of anime-adjacent media. It is LESS true for Hololive, ironically enough. Partly because they're more known in Japan, where there is not as much prejudice towards anime shit.
>>69458496
>with some exceptions like a mid-tier band member or game dev taking notice
Fucking please. At least that's actual recognition, as opposed to "She was on the telly, famous guy might have seen her!!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69457863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFJz2_oCf2o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv52wSuGSnQ
Gura is following her dreams of becoming like Miku:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytr8SIXenj8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzIZqsSzros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55OfyjrSE08

[Anonymous No.]

>>69458908
The OP's intention doesn't matter one bit when the people who show up are genuine fans. Are you seriously telling me that there are zero vsojo fans in this thread right now?
You're literally here. Don't even try to claim that you're not one of them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69455474
It's cute seeing overseas fans gather in droves to see their oshi on a billboard.

Meanwhile, US fans spends tens of thousands of dollars to put their oshi up on Time Square and only a handful of people give a shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459090
I'm a Vshojo fan but I didn't make any disparaging remarks against Hololive talents or vtubing culture which contradicts your narrative. Contradictory to that if it's genuine fans of Hololive who show up here just to hate on Vshojofans or their talents then it seems like you are a bit hypocritical not acknowledging that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459067
You claimed that Gura has already transcended vtubing and become like Miku but now you're just showing Gura singing Vocaloid songs like a million other vtubers have already done.
No one will ever sing Gura's songs like people sing Miku's songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459276
hololive fans hate hololive fans but if there's one thing we can all agree on is that we all hate non-hololive fans

welcome to /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459276
>I didn't make any disparaging remarks against Hololive talents or vtubing culture which contradicts your narrative.
Others did and they're vshojo fans just like you.
>you are a bit hypocritical not acknowledging that.
Not acknowledging what? I already established that you will always use any opinions posted in "bait threads" as true representation of hololive fans and that you're the hypocrite who won't accept the same when it comes to vshojo fans.
If there's no vshojo fans here then there's also no hololive fans. It's your choice.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459090
there is no such thing as a vshojo fan, there are fans of the individual girls but vshojo is so disconnected from one another that it does not have the box effect of Hololive or even niji
their presence here is however small enough that they feel the need to defend one another however out of a need for validation that they are a big corpo despite them hating corpos

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459278
Not the OP, but it is transcending. Not limited to just streaming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nwoorAlqyg
Gura's solo live will have more participants than Miku's concerts.

[Anonymous No.]

Ironmouse is still alive? pretty impressive for a girl with turbo cancer

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
Its litterally EN Twitch Streamer awards. Everyone knows JP Holomems get tens of thousands more viewers every stream then any Vwhorejo member could hope to achieve.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459541
Gura singing a vocaloid song isn't transcending anything. Why are you making this all about Gura anyways? Everyone else in hololive does all of this same shit. It's not special.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69459492
>I already established that you will always use any opinions posted in "bait threads" as true representation of hololive fans
I actually didn't say that so you pulled that out of your ass.
And the only reason I don't accept it because those are not genuine vshojofags and if you think they are then you cannot ignore me who does not do what you accuse vshojofags of doing rendering your argument invalid.
I would recommend lurking more so you can detect bait instead of making it known that you believe whatever comes in front of your nose.

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>>69422704
Fpbp

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>>69459766
So are there genuine hololive fans in these threads or not and does the hate posted towards vshojo represent their opinions?
You seem hesitant to answer.

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>>69458877
I don't care about Ironmouse. Her claim to fame is justifying the concept of vtubing to normies via her sickness, but her actual content is boring. But I know who she is, and so do millions of others in communities that don't care about vtubers. The Latam streamer community alone is probably enough to put her at number 1 name recognition for vtubing globally.

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>>69459669
>It's not special.
Ogey, it's all of Hololive. All others will be left behind. Yagoo has expressed that this is hid plan for world domination. Getting a Nobel Peace Prize.

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>>69460052
There's nothing special about singing someone else's song in 3D. I still don't understand how you genuinely believe Gura is on the level of Miku when no one else is doing this same thing with her songs.

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>>69458496
How are you so retarded? Just because she appears on those awards doesn't mean all the people watching that award show gives a shit or even actually know her.

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>>69459985
Yes there are genuine hololive fans here because I could find the same sentiment in hololive threads.
And it's rich to say I seem hesitant to answer when you dodged my talking points just now.

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>>69422797
>>69422951
>>69423028
it was over 300k on Twitch+youtube and there were also a ton of streamers with anything from 50-10k viewers each simulcasting it too...

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>>69460185
So you're a hypocrite then.
>you dodged my talking points just now.
What fucking talking points? All you said was "w-w-well I don't shit on hololive so no one else does!! checkmate!" Vshojofags hate hololive and there's endless examples of it. Your personal opinion is irrelevant and seeing how desperately you're running defense for the others, I think you actually agree with them.

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>>69460539
Take your meds schizo, nothing I said was hypocritical and you are out of arguments.
"Genuine question" btw

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>>69460495
I watched some of those streams.
People were spamming jpeg or pdf when the vtubers came up. Idk why you guys think that's a good thing

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>>69460666
>nothing I said was hypocritical
Your claim is that there are no genuine vshojo fans who hate hololive but that there are genuine hololive fans who hate vshojo.
That's hypocritical.

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>>69422559
I think hololive is run by the worst people on earth, but that "award" show is a "my friends get awards" show.

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>>69422559
>the streamer awards
do you retards really keep up with this shit?

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>>69422797
126k people watched doki talk about roblox

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>>69460539
Its funny seeing these vshojofags deny that they were seething.
I remember seeing a youtube comment with thousands of likes wanting Gura to be another whore in vshitjo

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>>69422559
i thank the good lord above every day that none of my oshis are twitch streamers

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>twitch awards
Irrelevant.

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>>69422797
ok? regular tv gets millions of views per day and look how many give a fuck about it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69460901
You don't get it, anon. That's them liking Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69460155
Underestimating Gura's mindshare. It's growing while Miku is being forgotten. But Gura will do her best so they don't.

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>>69460770
your claim was that vshojofans hate vtubers which is obviously retarded. Whatever nonsense you wrote now isn't my claim, of course some vshojo fans will hate hololive but it's not nearly as many as Hololive fans who are seething about vshojo.
Goodbye and take your L.

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>>69461006
If Gura is growing and Miku is being forgotten, why does Miku have an increasingly young fanbase that are singing her songs while nobody is singing anything from Gura?

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>>69460975
If they like Gura then why do they want her to downgrade?
Gura clearly have other problem besides burnout and she said time and time again how thankful she is for her fellow holo en members for being supportive.
Vshojo not only ignored someone getting harassed for playing a wizard game, they even threw her under the bus.

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>>69461040
But vshojo fans do hate vtubers. Some of the most common opinions from you fags is that all the original japanese vtuber culture is cringe and bad.
>it's not nearly as many as Hololive fans
Vshojo and hololive totally have equal number of fans.

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>>69461149
Gura doesn't have to have original songs. Gura said recently that she rather be on stage than in the studio,
You are confused that Hatsune Miku is not a real person, but a tool using that voice. No more concerts. Even her cameo appearances in recent anime was a flop.

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>>69461869
If Gura doesn't have any songs then she is not on Miku's level, sorry. There are other vtubers that are closer to being like Miku than her but even they are nowhere close to being relevant enough for that.

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>>69462141
Gura singing others' songs, is exactly what Hatsune Miku was all about.
>There are other vtubers that are closer to being like Miku than her
Why leave out examples?
Gura brings in the crowds, that Miku will never.

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>>69462791
Miku is not about singing other people's songs. She is the main vocalist even if she's not real. Gura will never be like that.
>Why leave out examples?
Because you will attack them, but here I'll name Suisei and KAF so that you can minimize all of their achievements.

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>>69422559
based fuck asians.

[Anonymous No.]

I didn't even know we had yet another award for western vtubers, let me guess, the mouse won every category she was in again.

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>>69422559
I do find it kinda strange that it feels like these award shows kinda go out of their way to not put Hololive in anything or something. I mean it's not like Hololive is a twitch thing, but it always feels weird they ignore them completely like they aren't real when they're so big.

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>>69463671
If you're not on twitch you're not a streamer.

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>>69463741
The was streamed on YouTube and twitch and had YouTubers one there though?

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>>69463009
True, Gura will never be a vocaloid tool.
While Miku will never be a real vocalist, like Suisei.
But damn, stop ignoring that Gura brings in the crowds more than Miku ever did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69463671
See
>>69450779
Even if they wanted to, they cannot include Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69463825
Gura has never brought in a crowd like Miku. There is no massive fanbase of people singing Gawr Gura songs and making covers of them and never will be.

[Anonymous No.]

somehow less than 0 fucks given

[Anonymous No.]

>>69463880
Vocaloid is a tool. No more than a piano. More people play piano than Gura.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69463880
Miku is not a vtuber, why the hell are you guys talking about her?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69464143
There's a retard making the "Gura is not popular since she's not as popular as Miku" argument

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>>69460495
>Um actually, there were slightly more viewers than what I initially said
Kill yourself twitch fag, don't you have emotes to spam somewhere endlessly like a retard?

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>>69422559
I will nominate Gura to have sex with me. The runner up is Kronii

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seriously though... why don't they just give an award to a holo or so?
they could have easily gotten migo to say a few lines of elite english acceptance speech and it'd be the most popular clip of the entire show

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>>69422559
Didn't a bunch of them not even know it was going on and get surprised when their chat brought up their nominations/wins? I vaguely remember seeing a bunch of clips a few months ago.

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>>69422559
>DEI awards
Fixed that for you, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

What did you expect?
The west doesn't know who they are. They're utterly mogged by Mouse in the entire english speaking world. Japan has completely fell off with viewers in the west and even Gura can't catch up despite being an english talent. Even when looking at a worldwide graph, Pekora still can't beat Mouse or Gura, she's not even close. Not only that, but the worldwide graph shows that Mouse and Gura are only one single point different in average.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69463671
They can't pretend that ironmouse is good if the acknowledge Hololive's existence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465399
No one wants it?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465528
picrel

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>>69465399
Tungsten Rat knows that any popular Holo would immediately blow her out of the water so she does everything in her power to ensure they don't get included.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69464627
Literally the stupidest argument in the history of this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465688
>Tungsten Rat
Kek

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>>69444552
Its funny how you said all other metric is irrelevant because you know ironlung doesn't even come close to hololive's numbers and then you finish it off with a big joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
This won streamer of the year: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2059317839

>"ya'll niggers is crazy"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465781
>he doesn't know that's her own given nickname she uses on stream
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465781
>kek funny nickname
do your reps newfag

[Anonymous No.]

Man, holoretards sure doesn't care about these awards, even though they seethe a lot about them.

[Anonymous No.]

I mean people want to fight about ironmouse being bigger and all, that's fine. Not even even a nomination for anything and pretending Hololive isn't real is really fucking weird. You can't tell me it's not weird and that Hololvie isn't at least huge.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465528
Ironmouse's peak ccv is lower than Pekora's average ccv. You need some math classes if you believe someone with 7k ccv is bigger than someone who gets 30k consistently.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466324
Numberfags aren't people. This in includes both sides being retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466355
HL wanted to isolate themselves in their own special universe, now it happened and everyone respects that, so what's the problem?

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\>>69466364
The graph doesn't lie, anon. The world does not give a fuck about the numbermonkey threads.

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>>69466441
Hololive fans don't see the problem, but shitposters still like to falseflag about it for some reason. Hololive EN doesn't appeal to the same crowd that would watch something like the streamer awards, so it'd be weird if they did get nominated.

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>>69460741
Because you know
Nooombars
>Gura numbers are bigger than most flesh streamers
>Thus Gura is more globally recognized and famous than any flesh streamer
>I rest my case T.numbertard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466077
>>69466268
I will never see your rat, cucks newfags

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>>69466441
I mean I don't really care that much. I just find it off if you make this big streamer award thing for streamers all around and try to pretend a large chunk of some popular streamer group aren't real. I mean it's up to them, I just find it odd I guess?

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>>69462141
Miku doesn't have songs. Vocaloid producers use Miku's voicebank to make songs. That's what a Vocaloid is. Miku doesn't own those songs, because Miku isn't a person; she's an instrument

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466324
no one knew they existed until you made your bait thread, cuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69462141
Hatsune Miku isn't an idol, she's a computer program/VST.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466492
your graph is a lie just like your melons.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466492
If you're gonna try to make stuff up you should try something that is no so easy to disprove my man.

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>>69465604
2023 wasn't the best year for Gura. It's remarkable that she can stay relevant with 20 streams in 2023.
Yet returning with even bigger numbers. She's back into the YT algorithm and her sub rate is returning too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ8eD66GlYA

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466547
>Calls others numberfags while bragging about how their twitch clique award had so many viewers
Why is it so hard to admit that numbers are only irrelevant to you because it proves your narrative is a lie.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467150
>Asmongold clips

[Anonymous No.]

I'm a huge fan of Fist Of The North Star which is why I know it's one of the highest grossing media franchises of all time. It continues to make shitloads of money. Over 20 billion dollars to be exact. To say it's popular is an understatement. It's the 6th highest grossing anime/manga and shit like Naruto and One Piece don't even make the list behind it, and if you compare it to non anime/manga it's literally above Toy Story, Lord Of The Rings, and James Bond.
I bring this up because if you ask someone to tell you anything about Fist Of The North Star in the western and english speaking world, they generally don't know shit. They might know "Omae wa mou shindeiru" and that's it. Especially when compared to the afforementioned, Naruot and One Piece. Or shit, literally any other anime, any flavor of the month anime running right now.
Why am I bringing this up? It directly ties to Hololive and it's talents in the west. It is the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.]

ITT a bunch of cucks complain about how their favorite key jinglers don't get the attention, admiration and respect they so desperately want by proxy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467363
>QTCinderella
Attack the person instead of the topic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466922
Do I need to post it again? Did you miss it the first time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467469
what is your oshi?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467486
Who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Also 0 vtubers winning any non-vtuber exclusive awards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466922
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n82TWqlUr4c
Comparing numbers in a small time frame that has events, like Neuro's subathon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467983
1 full year is a small time frame, I see

[Anonymous No.]

>>69468139
Are you blind?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69468223
Not him, but are you anon? it's Jan 1st to Dec31st. That is a year and thing you posted it the 15th to the 21st of December only

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
>streamer awards
this is exactly why nobody cares about this type of content, same as the oscars never acknowledging anime as the superior form of animation since decades ago, with the small exception of ghibli

[Anonymous No.]

>>69468331
I stand corrected. Was thinking the first graph was watched hours, which she never appeared before. But it's the peak for an award show. The time is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69468418
anime hasn't been superior for a decade now
literally all of it is slop just like hollywood

[Anonymous No.]

>>69465604
Anon, Pekora's katakana spelling alone is enough to beat Ironmouse worldwide

[Anonymous No.]

BLACK COMPANY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lga6STJ08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lga6STJ08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5lga6STJ08

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469244
Holo literally dabbing on Niji, this is just lacunny lamenting being a retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469783
They halped but not for free. I hope that's clear for ya.
The people she had to pay were lit cover employees and cover studios.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469244
>>69469783
Wait till you find out most of their live concerts are on the negative

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469244
>Micro corpos and indies can hold tournaments just fine
>Holowhore is somehow in the red after one tournament
Why is she lying?
Don't answer, I already know she's a lying cunt by nature.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69470117
Staff is already retributed by the company. What she had to pay for were the assets, she even says so in the video.
She's still a retard since she didn't even think of a way to monetize the event. Guess that's something the staff should have reminded her.

[Anonymous No.]

Fillian's streamer award proved that many Holos are popular enough to win without calling for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466441
HL?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69470545
wait, there's two streamer awards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69471404
west has too many copeaawards that it's confusing

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469244
LA+ is a retard who spends a bunch of money on things without looking into them and goes into the red and takes no advice from other people. It's not the first time. They help you out some, but they're not going to just hand out a bunch of money. I mean people could just watch the video guess, but people don't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
holoslop

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469235
Doesn't make mouse look good so it doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469235
>more people google her so we win
retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
what's the average ccv for each nominee?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422704
FPBP
Every anon pretending this circlejerk matters probably also thinks Steam awards mean something.

[Anonymous No.]

people pretending these clique-fluencer award shows are harmless circlejerks while these orgs have time and time again have been exposed as farms for groomers, scam artists, sex offenders and other shady dealings.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69471924
Tell that to the guy I was replying to, I'm not the one who came up with the google trends cope.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467573
What about when you put in Japan; Ironmouse, がうる・ぐら, 兎田ぺこら instead of focusing it on 3rd-world countries?

[Anonymous No.]

I'm amused at schizos trying to use the streamer awards to attack people when even the intended audience fucking hated it because production was shit, the content was cringe, it was packed full of ads and was sponsored by the chinese. Half the fucking nominees didn't even go to it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69473300
hey now, im supposed to seethe on it cos my oshi was not even nominated. it's imporant.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422797
X

[Anonymous No.]

>>69466699
>>69466790
Amd despite that Miku has a fanbase that likes her and the songs as if she was the person behind them.
Gura will never be popular enough to even make people sing a single song.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69473300
>was sponsored by the chinese
In a meme way like this, or actually sponsored?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbZDlcK6oSc

[Anonymous No.]

>>69473046
Nobody in the west is going to seach that. You just want to show off your chinese botted statistics.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69461356
Leaving hololive is not a downgrade.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69473300
> Half the fucking nominees didn't even go to it.
Yes, that caught my attention, that's why I liked Fillian's awards more. It makes much more sense that the winners only have to answer a call.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69481663
Dude, this is the stupidest argument in history.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69482249
It is, look at kson for example.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69482875
i agree. she's become good fap material since graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469235
Anon, why would the western side of the world be spelling Pekora's name in katakana? Use your brain. If an English speaker searches Pekora, they're going to type "Usada Pekora"
Also I don't know why you split Gura's name in half, watch when I do it too lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69483812
Touché, you are absolutely right. Actually, to really measure Ironmouse's overall popularity, you should check both iron and mouse trends and add them up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69469235
>>69483812
Just for the sake of showing you what I mean. Here is the US and UK's search results when searching for her name in katakana.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69484415

[Anonymous No.]

>>69484582
No anon, I got the joke, really.

[Anonymous No.]

I just want to point out even Yagoo liked Mouse winning back at the VGA's.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467573
No shit they would search her up. Literally no one outside of twitch knows who the fuck ironmouse is. The twitch circle is literally pushing her as the face of vtubers by suddenly adding a vtuber category and giving her all the awards

[Anonymous No.]

>>69422559
Because Hololive doesn't give a shit about them. It would be pretty embarrassing to hand out awards for people that didn't even bother showing up

[Anonymous No.]

>>69467573
What the fuck does that prove? They just searched her up because she keeps winning awards for some reason. It's not like those people will watch her.
Meanwhile, Gura gets a fucking collab with a city and had an entire aquarium themed after her. She even became the tokyo tourism ambassador. What did ironmouse achieve that's close to that besides the twitch circle awards?
Ironmouse can't even get at least half of Gura's average ccv despite her streaming almost every day for long hours.
Don't even give me that rare stream buff bullshit. Every statistic for the past years has shown that consistent streams are what's needed to get a larger following.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69487493
>Meanwhile, Gura gets a fucking collab with a city and had an entire aquarium themed after her. She even became the tokyo tourism ambassador.
holy shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69487493
>Gura themed aquarium
They fucking taught the fish to "dance" to her song wtf

[Anonymous No.]

>>69488329
WHAT?