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>last proper stream 15 days ago

>> No.69318954

>>69318935
Too busy growing cold in the bathtub

>> No.69318955

>>69318935
She's just taking a break
Oh wait...

>> No.69318980

>>69318954
Better that than a sex slave I guess

>> No.69318991

>>69318980
I'd still use her tbqh

>> No.69319043

>>69318991
you'd still use her based on the voice, not the personality or appearance...
...why not just go with voice packs an a toy at that point? Less upkeep andv8m4 more creativity possible.

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>>69318935
SOMEONE PLEASE CHECK UP ON HER OH GOD I HOPE SHE'S OKAY

>> No.69319102

>>69318935
she's trying out her cool new concrete shoes Tazumi-sama gave her

>> No.69319132

#WhereIsElira

>> No.69319156

>>69318991
C'mon anon have some standards. Neither her millie nor enna would be worth plowing if they were right in front of you right now in harem outfits.

>> No.69319165

>>69318935
Just think, if she was innocent then she would've been back to streaming without a care.

>> No.69319172

>>69319132
Would actually be pretty funny

>> No.69319196

despite everything, I think i'd still give elira a kiss

>> No.69319234

>>69319132
>>69319172
#WhereIsElira
For real so they can make another decision that'll add to the dumpster fire. They'll do it, they can't be stopped!

>> No.69319293

>>69319234

On one hand, it'd be REALLY funny. On the other, I don't want to see another dragon get bullied either by dramafags going crazy. I do want a serious response though as to what the FUCK they were thinking with that video.

>> No.69319305

>>69318935
NijiJP has sent her a script she needs to read with Vox and Ike, to apologize for their black box stream. Predictably, she's refusing and thinks Riku won't fire their asses just because they're some of the biggest streamers of EN.

>> No.69319319

highly unlikely she's ever going to stream again, she'll be lucky if she evades jailtime

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>>69318935
Gotta be hard knowing that you now have no future in the industry.
She's poison, and she's poisoned. Nobody will ever respect her ever again.

No, I don't mean her simps. She doesn't care about that, no creator holds their fan's admiration as high as they do the respect of their peers. An artist seeks the approval of esteemed artists, a musician wants to be acknowledged by a star. Creators just want senpai to notice them.

And nobody wants to acknowledge a viper.

>> No.69319341

>>69319165
Don’t think Coco was exactly “streaming without a care in the world” while china was busy throwing shit at her chat after that whole non-issue they went apeshit over.

>> No.69319366

>>69319305
nah man, nijiJP are for sure doing a big investigation into what was going on in EN
if Elira actually was up to anything shady like cutting merch deals for herself or skimming money she's actually in huge shit

>> No.69319394

>>69319165
No she'd be raided to hell and back after that shitshow with questions and attacks. I don't know how they expected her to be able to recover from this any time soon.

>> No.69319413

>>69319341
Coco herself specifically as an individual was a target for harassment. There was nothing pointing to Elira until her retarded stream which outed herself.

>> No.69319435

>>69319326
Unironically this
Collabing with anyone who performed that hit piece is asking for trouble. No one except extremely desperate leechers will want to collab or associate with them anymore.

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>>69318935
we haven't heard from Rosemi for almost 2 weeks

>> No.69319494

last stream is the most viewed on her channel btw

>> No.69319506

>>69319293
Everything has been said at this point, which is also what makes it so crazy that they just keep opening a new can of worms every week now...
>>69319366
This is it. There's been rrat mentions and other inferences that they've been lying to JP management and taking money. If this is true, she is def in huge shit...
Real question is also, will AC settle out of court or not for Doki's claims. If not and go to court they will doxx Elira etc. She is fucked if she doesn't marry some jp business man or something lmao

>> No.69319512

>>69319394
What? No. Nobody was going to raid Elira in particular, just like they aren't raiding any of the other members. Hell even Ike, who was in the video, is back to streaming normally and no one is raiding him besides a few containment breakers and dramatroons who get instantly banned.
She ruined her reputation for no real reason or benefit just so she could shit on Selen, she deserves all the hate she gets.

>> No.69319521

>>69319132
if this keeps going it would be very funny if this took off

>>69319172

>> No.69319649

>>69319506
Gaijins are fucktoys, not wives. So good luck to her

>> No.69319688

>>69318935
You know, I was pissed at her days ago but now I'm kinda sad for her. I hope she's doing okay. Still, what the fuck was that blacked stream? Everybody and their grandmothers can tell the optics would be terrible.

>> No.69319717

>>69319438
At this point I think the next time we hear about Rosemi it'll be her graduation announcement

>> No.69319719

Riku's yakuzas are scary.
#SaveElira

>> No.69319729

>>69318935
>How do you even approach coming back after that?
Like imagine you wake up as Elira, what angle do you take and how to do you prepare for streaming again?
Do you just hit live and face it head on? Maybe ease your way in by appearing in collabs on other channels first to shield yourself? I’m genuinely curious to see how it all will play out.

>> No.69319735

I don't give a fuck what you say, but Elira's porn is AAA tier

>> No.69319737

#WhereIsElira

>> No.69319759
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This you? Don't lose hope.

>> No.69319834

>>69319735
needs more ryona

>> No.69319870

>>69319729
She's probably ashamed to face her fans but all the OGs would have left already, leaving only the yessisters in her chat. She will be greeted with endless positivity.

>> No.69319907

I still get Elira and Selen mixed up with each other.

>> No.69319930

Who else hasn't streamed since the debacle?

>> No.69319937

>>69319759
Shit that's a good haul actually. Maybe I should buy. I still love her design even if the performer was evil.

>> No.69319948

>>69319759
how much did he pay for all this?

>> No.69319960

>>69319132
Suspended and management is deciding whether to fire her or let her return when or IF things cool down enough that she can go back to being of use to the company.

>> No.69319998

>>69319132
#WhereIsElira (with HATE & ANGER)

>> No.69320004

>>69318935
She's busy learning how to pretend suicide from Sonny

>> No.69320008

>>69318935
What do you mean? Her most viewed stream ever was just 4 days ago!

>> No.69320042

>>69319759
>>69319937
there's so much niji merch going up for sale rn, its really funny seeing the prices drop so hard as supply goes up for little to no demand. jp mercari is worth a look for it

>> No.69320068

>>69319870
Yep... only "fans" who don't really care about her are left. Her 2 year members were chucking tomatoes at her in the chat of that PR disaster. All that's left is a bunch of clapping seals that don't care about her or pay her. They only care that she sails under the Kurosanji flag.

>> No.69320073

>>69320042
Thanks. I'll try looking around. Maybe there's still some selen merch somewhere. I wanted that hat years ago but the shipping was like 80 USD... Fucking insane how neither Niji nor Cover ever thought to consider international shipping distributors

>> No.69320151

>>69319948
this is easily around $1000 worth of stuff including shipping prices

>> No.69320207

I think she's done for. Sponsors won't want anything to do with her, the diehards that buy merch won't be there anymore, at best she'll get some pity superchats from sisters. If she stays, she'll be a hate magnet for the entire branch and her coworkers will slowly come to resent her. It's seriously one of most spectacular career suicides I've ever seen.

>> No.69320222

>>69320073
https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=セレン%20龍月

>> No.69320231

>>69319870
Maybe, but you have to know there is going to be an absolute deluge of shit coming the moment she pushes live as well. The yessisters are always going to be there, but how do you approach this while minimizing the impact to your own mental health realistically?

>> No.69320281

Evil girls joining the MC's side after their superiors throws them away is one of my favorite tropes. Elira, pls.

>> No.69320314

>>69320207
Yeah there's no other reason for a shadow suspension and being forced to make a self-report stream unless she was heavily responsible for the shitstorm. Though I'm curious how niji will handle it since their official stance has been to shit on Doki and claim innocence. It would be weird if they fire Elira and admit fault. Maybe Elira will just "willingly" graduate and then bury the story.

>> No.69320359

>>69318935
She's gagged and tied up at nijiJP HQ being tossed around by Riku and the jap boomers.

>> No.69320368

>>69319132
KEK

>> No.69320397

>>69320068
it was wild to see 29 month people using their free supa to insult her

>> No.69320410

>>69320359
God I wish I was her...

>> No.69320501

>>69320207
The whole situation is so stupid that it's frustrating. Am I correct in assuming that the reason for all this is that they were so afraid of Selen for some reason that they wanted to rush out a narrative to get ahead of her?

>> No.69320558

Assuming it was a miscommunication and they were genuinely under the assumption Selen was going to dox everyone when that was recorded, (Which I'm not fully ready to believe yet, to be clear.) then she's probably demanding that management release a statement explaining the fuck up that happened for that video to still end up being streamed on her channel, while management refuses to admit any culpability.

I think if that happens maybe people can forgive her, but a lot of people will still be cautious. However I think it's most likely management will give her the shaft in which case she'll probably graduate.

>> No.69320561

>>69320151
God I'd want to kill myself if my oshi turned out to be a terrible person.

>> No.69320607

>>69319870
She's gonna either end up deluding herself with the yes girls or she's gonna start cracking as she realizes how fucked that fumble was and it starts eating away internally as she's surrounded by drones.

Really depends on what level of mean bitch we're dealing with here.

>> No.69320670

>>69320558
While there's no excuse for that video being made, I would feel bad for Elira if they made it because management spooked them into it, throwing them under the bus.
Specifying Elira because I don't care about the faggots.

>> No.69320679

>>69319930
Rosemi.
There may be more but to answer that I'll need you to clarify what you mean by "streamed". Does showing up at Kyo's graduation count? Do collabs in other people's channels count? What about mengens?

>> No.69320697

>>69320222
>https://buyee.jp/mercari/search?keyword=セレン%20龍月
Thanks anon

>> No.69320702

what are the odds of elira getting terminated as well

>> No.69320710

>>69320410
sister... that's GROSS.

>> No.69320726

>>69320314
I'll be honest with you, the livers' statement and Riku's statement were like night and day. Riku said the things the company should have been saying all along, giving apologies and making promises even if they didn't mean them, but Elira & co. just threw more fuel on the fire and took the drama to the next level. The smartest thing for them to do right now might be to make her a scapegoat to get some of the heat off them.

>> No.69320747

>>69320670
The thing that still irks me is that even if management was making them believe bullshit, it's not like they were living under a rock, they should've recognized that Doki wasn't actually going nuclear and refused to do it. Which is why I believe that at the very least that video *must* have been pre-recorded and streamed on her channel by incompetent management. It's the only way to put her under a remotely good light in this situation.

>> No.69320780

>>69320501
The "confirmed" timeline is
>selen wanted to graduate because shit company
>told management about it and waited for a reply, since she wanted to plan the graduation and all that
>management just ghosted her
>selen tells management that if they keep ghosting her then she's going to drop a PR nuke on them about harassment/etc
>niji immediately fires her and calls her the bad guy, publicly listing everything she was accusing them of (lol)

>> No.69320792

>>69320670
Nah, Elira's the worst of the three. The only one of them you could argue deserves any sympathy at all is Ike.

>> No.69320826

>>69320702
Officially? None. The Eastern face-saving culture won't let them, especially after all those official statements made by the official company account. At the very best it'll be masked as a mutual agreement on parting ways.

>> No.69320838

>>69320702
She is radioactive. They will probably allow her to stay low until she eventually leaves without much fanfare.
What's hysterical is that everyone solely focused on her, and her posse of Mille and Enna didn't get much attention. I guess people tend to focus all their attention on one villain, but in truth they are probably all equally culpable.

>> No.69320842

>>69320702
Virtually 0. Elira is like the golden goose of EN girls now that Selen is gone.
If they do have the balls though and say "Fuck it, you out" just to quench this shitstorm by effectively sacrificing her, Niji would earn some respect.
People already on her case, Vox is too valuable. Elira would make a actually good scapegoat for them.

>> No.69320845

>>69320780
>then she's going to drop a PR nuke on them about harassment/etc
Is this actually confirmed? As far as I know there's still the possibility that she was only intending for that document to serve as documentation for an HR complaint, and eigo jouzu management misinterpreted it as a public threat.

>> No.69320860

>>69320670
Could it be that it was done on Elira's channel because she was the one who translated the document, thus pinning any miscommunications on her?

>> No.69320895

>>69320314
If Elira graduates or is terminated, that's an admission of guilt and all rrats become true. I don't know what the fuck they'll do with her.

>> No.69320905

>>69320845
That's what niji said themselves in their tweet. If that's not actually true then they're digging themselves an even deeper hole by lying.

>> No.69320913

>>69320860
Are we actually going that Nijisanji needs a talent to translate lawyer documents cause they have noone else in the house to do it?

>> No.69320942

>>69320845
It's Nijisanji's word, so who the fuck knows, but it was in the termination notice.

>> No.69320941

>>69320895
>all rrats become true
That happened nearly two weeks ago.

>> No.69320963

>>69320913
their job posting supports this rrat

>> No.69320969

>>69319046
I offer her the same kindness she offered Doki

>> No.69321071

>>69320845
No, the sister is lying (as usual).

Selen was hospitalized after trying to kill herself, and silently suspended for over a month.
She lawyered up and demanded to quit with cause, citing workplace harassment. Otherwise, she wouldn't be able to quit, and Anycolor would have been able to string her along for months (like Pomu and Mysta).

Her lawyer and Anycolor's lawyers signed confidentiality agreements (confirmed) and negotiated her graduation (termination of contractual obligations with cause).
The company went radio silent for a while, ie negatiations broke down.
They abruptly terminate her with the Zaion playbook, portraying her as a villain.
Doki makes the statement and lets the public know she attempted suicide due to workplace harassment, and that she wanted to leave amicably but the company refused.

>> No.69321092

>>69320963
Fair.
Would be a hell of a twist if this entire shit situation was caused by Elira mistranslating shit. Intentional or not.
Heck, imagine if it was unintentional.

>> No.69321104

>>69320969
Anon you need to be better than your enemies

>> No.69321111

>>69320670
>>69320747
the real tragedy is that Elira was actually super innocent and was their fall guy for malicious management, we'll see though. I think it's disgusting that her coworkers have chosen not to revolt if this is the case. If I saw my coworker be forced to make that statement, I would instantly quit because it crosses too many lines. They're not from JP background, they're westernized and keep getting that bag, disgusting people

>> No.69321228

>>69321111
Nice quads but I don't know how anyone could possibly believe she didn't do this willingly given how she was on the verge of tears talking about how "threatened" she felt by Selen.

>> No.69321234

How fucking funny would it be if she has to make another statement?
>Ahem.
>I would like to adress certain claims that have been made about me and other livers recently.
>First, I was not in any way involved with the management of Nijisanji EN...

>> No.69321251

You folks should have read the room during her Vesperia stream where she popped off on chat over a supa from some rando.

>> No.69321271

>>69321092
The most darkly funny thing is that it seems very likely someone looked at "If you do not communicate with me soon I'm taking you to court and making this public", panicked and read it as "I'm taking you to court and making this public" which prompted the termination notice.

>> No.69321477

>>69321234
>First, I was not involved with the management of Nijisanji EN.
Give it a few lines later
>The document me and Vox read through was only given to parties involved, such as management.

>> No.69321622

>>69321228
I'm a tired anon, a part of me thinks she's innocent but it's a very low percentage. When the black company ruins you, it's hard to defend you especially when you defend their termination method. It's just tragic overall, I don't know

>> No.69321634

>>69320679
Sus

>> No.69321641

>>69320842
>the golden goose
she's more like the diseased pidgeon that shat all over the coop, the next best to Selen was Pomu and she left too, there's not much left to save

>> No.69321694

>>69320726
Funny how Riku's apology was overwhelmingly negated by Elira's stream. He must've been pissed at having to do a deep bow apology to gaijins and now he might even have to do a second one kek.

>> No.69321716

>>69321251
Got a timestamp?

>> No.69321737

>>69319156
Regular Elira yeah, but drunk Elira is a different story. Head from a girl like that will have you in a different dimension

>> No.69321773

>>69318935
I am placing my faith in the gurrat.
I mean fuck it, they were right about all the other shit so far.
I wasn't being ironic when I said I was gonna kneel before dramafags now.

>> No.69321997

>>69320842
It’s because Vox is threatening to quit if they fire Elira.

They’re very close

>> No.69322048

>>69321251
Was it an "IMPROVE YOURSELF" moment?

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>>69318935
those are rookie numbers

>> No.69322362

Man, I'd love to see the shit that must be flying in their discord right now.

>> No.69322431

>>69318935
Management threw her to the wolves

>> No.69322496

>>69320845
Nope, it's nijiniggers lies. These kinds of documents were only needed to settle the matters between legal teams, and are NEVER going to be published (because it's fucking illegal)

>> No.69322566

>>69321997
>graduating in solidarity
Management will just gaslight Vox into hating Elira with a cleverly written document

>> No.69322675

>>69321092
Oh my god, if I was Elira and had accidentally caused all this shitstorm by mistranslating a document, torching my own reputation as well as of most of my coworkers, I think I would be considering attempting right now. The irony wouldn't even be funny it would just be crushingly depressing.

>> No.69322688

>>69322362
According to LK they were trying to figure out how to reverse public sentiment by brainstorming contacting influencers and twitter personalities and telling them "their truth". So, the unofficial discord (Elira's discord server, effectively) was full of schizoposting that would make /vt/ look normal by comparison.
The main reason I miss the gurrat threads is that LK used to post there. I haven't seen a post of his for a couple of days now.

>> No.69322717

>>69321997
Vox would beat Elira to death with a pool cue if it made him 1% richer and more popular

>> No.69322803

>>69320281
based evil woman enjoyer

>> No.69322818

All three statements by NijiEN came off as malicious hit pieces until the one from Riku. The firing was three pages that basically said that Selen was a crazy bitch who deserved to be fired. The second came after Doki redebuted to massive numbers, said basically the same thing but Elira self reported herself, Millie and Enna, confessed they read a legal document then the Le Grand Retard de Vox Akuma, Ace Attorney, made it worse, Ike was there. Then there was a third which read like "We did not leak confidential legal documents to the Livers, we did not."

Then complete radio silence. So she's either suspended for causing more damage or she's involved.

>> No.69322869

>>69322431
They took her side by shitting on Selen in their official tweets and allowing that black stream. It's more likely management is letting them do whatever they want and it just ends up in self sabotage due to sheer incompetence.

>> No.69322906

>>69322717
I wonder how much he is considering that very option as we speak it would earn him back points and bring him catharsis for her fucking over his career.

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>>69320558
>ewiwa waiting for management to take responsibility

>> No.69323150

>>69322717
He's too egotistical to think that way, just like he ruined his own numbers thinking he was some kind of great writer and performer instead of a manwhore with a deep voice

>> No.69323192

>>69322081
She was pregnant, with me.

>> No.69323396

>>69322688
How do they think they're going to reverse public opinion when all statements made by involved parties are in the open for anyone to look up?

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>>69322081
Nijisanji can crush your pathetic month or two without streams at any time.
Observe.

>> No.69323512

>>69319506
>There's been rrat mentions and other inferences that they've been lying to JP management and taking money.
It's hilarious to me that, if it's true, she had a pretty good scam going and chucked it all away for what seems like high school girl drama.

>> No.69323520

>>69319729
>You wake up as Elira
There’s a non-zero chance i might get deported and sent to prison. Worse yet, it may even be US federal prison if the RICO rrat is true. I unironically would just sell myself as a sex slave to the yakuza, that's preferrable.

>> No.69323574

>>69323396
They’re retarded bug people and think by simply telling westerners to believe the multimillion dollar company will actually work and that since Doki has BPD everyone will react like a bug person and disregard she says.

>> No.69323638

>a trip to antarctica usually signifies the end of a journey
Little did Pomu know, she was ending Elira and Finana's vtubing journey too when she brought them with her

>> No.69323668

>>69323426
>is a ghost librarian
>actually ghosts
Such dedication to kayfabe... I kneel...

>> No.69323755

>>69323396
He said they had talked about how a "recently graduated" liver would set the groundwork, and influencers/streamers would begin making content detailing "their truth".
We postulate he was referring to Kyo, but no confirmation.

>> No.69323824

>>69323755
kek, somehow I doubt Kyo would want to immolate himself after making a clean exit before shit hit the fan

>> No.69323972

>>69320838
There's actually a timeline where Elira is a bit more excusable than those two.

If back then, Niji was understaffed and there was no solution in sight because management just sucked, so Elira volunteered to fill the gaps for the good of the company, this is selfless and commendable. It's possible she initially did this with good intentions, but slowly realized how she could abuse the position to her advantage and became greedy and power-hungry. This at least makes her a little more sympathetic though because it means this at least started with good intentions and she simply lived long enough to become the villain, probably growing an ego as she became more important to the company and deciding that was reason enough to reward herself.

If the details about the rrat speculating about Enna and Millie's involvement are true, those two are just nepocunts granted power by Elira, and both immediately abused it.

Elira's real problem is that she's the single most difficult talent to excuse of any wrongdoing. She's definitely involved somehow. Only Vox pops up as much as she does, and a lot of that just has to do with him being a sex pest and not necessarily in relationship to the rrat.

>> No.69324024

There's no way Elira could survive this lawsuit without getting into JAV

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>>69324024
God I hope so.

>> No.69324202

>>69321111
>Elira was actually super innocent and was their fall guy for malicious management
delusional

>> No.69324236

>>69324024
We really need the vtuber -> jav star pipeline to start already.

>> No.69324298

>>69324024
Only if she becomes a lesbian JAV star with Enna and Millie...

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>>69323972
There's also the rrat that details the slow agonizing decent. Her own shortcomings building up a frustration from her colleagues that whine about the result of her shortcomings (They may not know that she's the one they're dissing in their secretive backtalks)

Also, am I dumb for hoping for a good ending for everyone out of this still?

>> No.69324307

>>69323972
It's the most plausible scenario. I don't believe she's some evil, mustache twirling villain, but someone who was placed in a position of power they weren't fit to stay in and became corrupt. It doesn't help that she decided to bring in her clique, who no doubt egged her on because they would also benefit.
None of this makes her a good person, but it's understandable and explains how things could've gotten to this point.

>> No.69324361

>>69320702
Elira is the perfect fall woman for this PR blunder, and they get to keep vox. No fucking way they'll sacrifice their fujo wagyu beef for the sake of PR feast. In the west, Anycolor will be celebrated for bravery for self reform if they go with this. However, Japan will perceive this as a sign of weakness and lack of backbone.
Anycolor is at a crossroad right now. Dealing with Doki is out of the question since the fire has now spread industry wide thanks to dramafags and they are in everybody's shitlist, informally Cover, Brave, and other JP corpos rightfully mad for shitting up their overseas expansion plans. The best they can do is wrestle in for more favorable settlement. They simply cannot afford getting this allegation into trial to avoid discovery.

>> No.69324385

>>69319729
Perform naked dogeza with a cutout of her vtuber face on the head (like Mito from that April Fools video) in an unachieved stream apologizing for everything and get terminated.
Then after the dust has settled a bit turn into an indie vtuber that specialize in analyzing vtuber drama, like those bank robbers who react to to robberies on movies.

>> No.69324401

>>69323972
Yeah but the idea she monopolized merch deals and kept others for getting their shot doesn't let it work. Because it was happening from day one despite Pomu and Selen being more popular. Also it makes no sense that Elira, Rosemi, and Enna were the three people selected to do cases unless favoritism was involved.

>> No.69324536

My rrat is that Elira and the clique didn't get installed into powerful positions from early on. There was a lot of negative sentiment against management when Yugo was terminated, and EN formed a quasi union and installed Elira as president.

>> No.69324558

>>69324401
The case thing makes sense if Selen really did plan on graduating last year and then called it off, they wouldn't want to do merch like that for someone who might leave, but there really isn't a good explanation for why Elira got so much more seasonal merch

>> No.69324578

I hope she comes back. Poor girl

>> No.69324585

>>69324304
I really think the only good ending for Elira is that if her motivations for being corrupt are a bit more humanizing, and that she decides herself to come clean about everything and apologize.

The problem is that coming clean is likely something that would get her in legal trouble with Nijisanji itself, so even if a part of her wanted to come clean from a moral perspective, the problem is there's a giant corporation that would fuck her in the ass for it.

She basically has a choice between trying to escape and losing her reputation in the process, or coming clean and being punished into financial oblivion by her former employer. The closest she can do is that if she's caught by NijiJP and in deep shit anyways, she should get out a heartfelt apology ASAP before they throw her in the slammer.

Beyond that, if the rrat was only correct in deducing she gets preferential treatment and that she actually did nothing to encourage this treatment herself is the only other happy ending for her. The way things have been unfolding though feels more like we've cornered a scared wild animal that knows it has nowhere to run, so it's desperately fighting and trying absolutely anything to find a way out of this. It's hard to imagine the animal behind this doesn't involve Elira, because a corrupt higher-up wouldn't feel this cornered.

So yeah, she's probably fucked.

>> No.69324610

>>69324236
i cum so much to idol -> jav videos

>> No.69324680

>>69322688
>So, the unofficial discord (Elira's discord server, effectively) was full of schizoposting that would make /vt/ look normal by comparison.
Maybe they're the ones behind the sister site and the anti-doki rentry kek

>> No.69324687

>>69321111
>the real tragedy is that Elira was actually super innocent
Even if that was true, she pretty much gave it away she was one of the people harassing Doki. We call it karma around here.

>> No.69324724

>>69324401
>day one
Didn't it start with Sakura Bloom in March 2022? So it only started happening a bit later on.

>> No.69324788

>>69324680
I think that is a safe bet.
Either that or Vox fangirls. They are actually insane.

>> No.69324798

>>69318935
riku's balls aren't gonna empty themselves

>> No.69324807

>>69324610
Oh same, anon. They're such a delicious forbidden fruit.

>> No.69324814

>>69324361
>In the west, Anycolor will be celebrated for bravery for self reform if they go with this.
Will they? The rrat is widespread enough that it comes up as a top google search result. Most people are familiar enough with it that they know this doesn't necessarily live and die with Elira.

She's still the perfect fall guy for this whole scenario and it's hard to imagine her making it out of this, but if Nijisanji threw her under the bus and failed to provide extensive proof that Millie, Enna, Vox and others had no involvement with her deeds, then people are still going to doubt Niji's competence and wonder if there are still other imposters that need to be thrown out. They need a very clear statement about who did what and who didn't, and they need to address every single one of the accused.

>> No.69324903

>>69324304
>Also, am I dumb for hoping for a good ending for everyone out of this still?
If you think this has a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention

>> No.69324938

>>69318935
>last creampie 1 hour ago

>> No.69325150

>>69324938
1 minute ago now.

>> No.69325178

>>69324304
>Also, am I dumb for hoping for a good ending for everyone out of this still?
It's called being human, but also being dumb. A dumb human. Stand proud, you haven't fully descended the schizo yet.

>> No.69325260

>>69320726
They could still salvage it if they just pin the blame all on the old management and say they were forced. They don't even need to get rid of the old managers, just lie and say they did, release a flowery apology letter where you blame them for all the bullshit, apologise to fans, apologise to Selen for the unprofessional behaviour, apologise to Zaion, say we'll do better next time, delete the blackscreen stream VOD, and quietly memoryhole the whole ordeal. If necessary agree to settle out of court with Doki.
None of this needs to be true, that stream could've been Elira's idea from the start but if you simply pretend it wasn't, fans won't know any better. The talents might have been most of the problem, doesn't matter just put the drama behind you. The clique might've been the root cause of everything, well they're getting one out here if they promise to keep their heads down, agree to compromise and never do that shit ever again. It's the cleanest solution that gives everybody an out and the company a clean slate in the eyes of fans if you make a big deal about turning over a new leaf.

>> No.69325313

>>69325150
Riku?

>> No.69325354

Here's a radical PR idea - (assuming she didn't actually fuck up too badly behind the scenes) - they should just keep her on but no longer as a star liver. After a contrite apology, she gets moved to front-facing PR/management. She is then responsible for transparency and conveying the management process of NijiEN to the public, like some bootleg shadow A-chan. Basically, she can represent the 'real' side of things, more as a 'bad cop' sort of role, and does not need to make an effort to act cheery or optimistic, but give hard updates on issues like AR live progress, barriers and events and detail the roadmap to solve them. As time goes on, she can gradually be humanized again from sheer exposure. That's her penance.

>> No.69325494

Pay Doki to have live sex with her! That's the only way to salvage her reputation!

>> No.69325517

>>69325354
>Here's a radical PR idea
>After a contrite apology, she gets moved to front-facing PR

Jesus fucking christ, you should work for Nijisanji. Your ideas would fit right in with theirs.

>> No.69325572

>>69325517
You know anon, he actually could be already lol

>> No.69325632

>>69324558
Hyte immediately canceling the deal more or less immediately after Niji called Selen negligible then reaching out to her makes it seem like she was the one they wanted for the deal but were convinced to do the others first.

>> No.69325636

>>69324610
>>69324807
Got any recommendations for those, bros?

>> No.69325673

>>69324361
Dude, Anycolor is in deep shit, they have to address it somehow.
They had a stock buyback campaign months ago, due to the stock being so volatile for the imminent technical recession in JP.
As soon as the stock buyback campaign ended, this shitfire broke out, and they lost over 220 million US dollars within 10 days. This is not unrealized gains being snuffed, this is actual money being lost, this is a hit to the company's market capitalization. 20% of its market cap disappeared into thin air.

I know /vt/ is mostly NEETs that don't invest, but believe me when I tell you - this is a gigantic shitshow because JP is entering a recession and interest rates are going to be hiked.

>> No.69325705
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>>69325632
They basically said it themselves

>> No.69325709

>>69324814
It worked with Credit Suisse. It worked with Lehman Brothers. It worked with Activision Blizzard. The west needs a scapegoat so the vtuber wheel will continue to turn until they get to another stop. Redirect the condensed hate into some poor schmuck, and your sins are forgiven. They're trying to render this narrative into Doki as the problem, as if we think like a Jap. Turns out they just accidentally canonized her as the next vtuber Jesus.
You simply cannot change the wheel. It must turn and churn or you are forever stopped. It won't make things better, but at least Niji gets a breather room.

>> No.69325755

>>69324680
Vox is behind the doxsite sisters. This is well-known by now.
Even when Kyo doxxed Sayu/Zaion, he got the info from the sisters in that particular doxsite.

>> No.69325774

>>69325632
almost like there was someone in EN redirecting sponsorship deals to Elira et al and blocking Selen sponsorships

>> No.69325925

>>69320558
There's too much weird shit without Elira being the last piece to the retarded puzzle we have here.
If you believe she wasn't a dickass, then it requires the entire management team to lie to corporate for years resulting in the bizarre avoidance of resolving issues in the branch plus Zaion's unprofessional snap termination plus the 2hr Selen yeet instead of the girl who had means, motive, opportunity, and benefited heftily from it. I wouldn't be worried about Selen or the public. Elira should be worried about the billions she's cost the company. If Anycolor can't turn this around soon and loses its perception as a growth stock after they get raped by the quarterly report it might be joever.

>> No.69325946

>all this cope blaming le evil EN management
>at the time Zaion was fired there was literally one(1) official manager, and it was a college kid who had been there for two weeks
>talents did everything themselves
Just accept it anons, the one you want to shoot and the one you want to save are the same person.

>> No.69325951

>>69325260
That's not how it works in JP companies. The execs are the only ones that are "allowed" to grovel and offer apologies.

That's why Riku performed a 最敬礼 and held it for 5 seconds. This is extremely rare to see, and even then he was critisized for not keeping his arms straight to the hip. Some investment fora and sites calling it "not respectful and apologetic enough".


When a CEO that owns 45% of the stock performs the most apologetic bow before a dogeza, you know shit's volatile.

>> No.69326069

>>69325951
So he could have apologized even more? So it was half-assed and should have done a dogeza to show he actually means it.

>> No.69326105

>>69325354
That's the most retarded thing I've read all day

>> No.69326108

>>69325632
Thought the same. People should try questioning Hyte more on how the decision was made for the three talents in question. If anything about the deal involved Hyte suggesting certain talents and being met with a "counter offer" of other talents, it adds to the rrat.

There's something very odd about that company immediately jumping ship and having Selen's back. A company should not have that kind of insight or that strong of an opinion unless SOMETHING happened to spark them feeling this way. Either they've just got a very active marketing team that's in tune with consumer consensus on topics, or something actually happened directly during their dealings with Nijisanji that tipped them off to Selen being the one to support in this conflict.

>> No.69326116

>>69325951
Riku speedo and pasties 15 minute dogeza on youtube when?

>> No.69326134

>>69321104
No, when they go low, you kick them in the head.

>> No.69326253

>>69325946
I want to shoot my cum deep inside Sayu's hag womb

>> No.69326292

what if elira is the management and HR so when doki's lawyer sent the documents to HR, vox and elira and whoever else could see it because they're the HR the documents were sent to lol
and it brings another question, does everyone know (if true) that they're the management? did doki (then selen) had elira and vox roleplay as secret managers they never talked to/saw?

>> No.69326299

>>69326108
Dude, Selen was the golden cow for gaming companies.
Vtubers wre absurdly high conversion rates for merchandise of any kind and gaming Vtubers are the single best shills of pcs, peripherals, games, et cetera.
Even fucking EA, ELECTRONIC ARTS, contacted Dokibird as soon as she was terminated.


It's extremely rare to find a high ccv gaming Vtuber, and Selen was a gaming Vtuber that was known for organizing game tournos. Of course Hyte wanted to sponsor her. She prints money.

>> No.69326312

>>69326253
Did you apply for perms from her ex-husband and verify with the court that she doesn't have any outstanding alimony payments?

>> No.69326362

>>69325354
>posterchild of one of the biggest PR disasters in Niji history
>Front facing PR position
What in the actual fuck.

>> No.69326384

>>69326312
Unfortunately, I'm still waiting to hear back from Millie.

>> No.69326390

>>69326292
The weird fucking shit is that Elira claims they ran it by staff and legal. But literally no one is retarded enough to approve that disaster. Let alone right before the boss was going to dicksuck in actual english on their behalf.

>> No.69326423

The narrative you retards created about her is truly hilarious

>> No.69326461

>>69325673
https://youtu.be/h_5I3JS_k40?t=14698
Time(4:04:58)

>> No.69326474

>>69319506
>There's been rrat mentions and other inferences that they've been lying to JP management and taking money. If this is true, she is def in huge shit...
I'm gonna feel insane if this turns out to be true

>> No.69326489

>>69326423
It's more hilarious because it's the only sensible explanation for nearly 3 years of problems

>> No.69326499

>>69319165
Anon, truth doesn't matter when there's a mob raging about.

>> No.69326529
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>>69326299
Her final members' post implies she was being told her personality "wasn't marketable". Which makes no fucking sense when she was literally THE gamer girl for NijiEN.

>> No.69326544

>>69326489
not at all. It's genuinely retarded and absolutely Impossible.

>> No.69326554

>>69326299
Proof doko?
I'm not disagreeing with you, but it's definitely better to have proof. Hyte seems pretty decidedly in Selen's camp, so approaching them and asking for a statement might help shed light on how the negotiations went down and how they ended up with three talents that aren't even the top breadwinners.

It ultimately just boils down to: what led to the decisions to sponsor the three talents they did? Did Hyte specifically request Selen or any other talents at any point? The answer itself very likely involves pushback from Nijisanji insisting on those three, and that itself is suspect enough to add onto the rrat.

>> No.69326558

>>69326544
Okay.

>> No.69326596

>>69326544
ok elira

>> No.69326619

>>69319729
make an apology stream and say sorry with the most canadian accent you can muster

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69326632

>>69326529
Everyone knows only males game.

>> No.69326645

>>69326529
damn
wish they didn't nuke her entire channel so i could dig some archives

>> No.69326656

So what's the deal with HoloEN and Hyte?
The collabs they have are Bae, Kronii, Mori, and Ame - did omegatroon make a deal where you can only get a PC case if you collab with the homos?

>> No.69326659

>>69326558
Nijisanji shows favoritism to talents who can speak Japanese which is why Petra and Kotoka also gets tons of deals despite being upopular. Anycolor thinks that by using their bilingual talents they get sales from both markets instead of just one.

>> No.69326664

>>69326423
>>69326544
it's over elira

>> No.69326681

>>69318935
I would like to take the time to congratulate her on achieving 1 million views

>> No.69326724

>>69326656
trying too hard sista

>> No.69326734

>>69326529
Maybe you should try reading it like this.
>I'm not going to kowtow to "management" just so they'll see fit to put my name forward for more sponsors.

>> No.69326758

>>69326659
>we don't have any favouritism in nijisanji
>has favouritism
grim

>> No.69326776

>>69326619
No. We have the sexy I'll keep you in my basement in a cage voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjNiFKV81vE hnnng.
The vtuber formerly known as Nijisanji EN's 1st wave Lazulight will stop streaming solely to produce voice packs and scripted non-stream ASMR videos. She'll never have control of her socials again.

>> No.69326805

>>69318935
She is going to suicide attempt but fail on purpose and blame Doki

>> No.69326862

Who's Elira?

>> No.69326891

>>69326529
She is referring to becoming for marketable for "management" ie nijisanjiEN.
Companies and streamers outside nijisanjiEN were falling all over themselves trying to work with Selen.

Remember, Selen has more rapport and memorable collabs with Holostars than Hololive girls do.

>> No.69326901

>>69326862
Dead in a ditch

>> No.69326916

>>69326805
The PR math works out that she needs to do at least two to cancel out doki's PR advantage.

>> No.69326919

>>69326656
>hyte cut all ties with niji, cut a deal with doki and shittalk niji in their discord
>sisters try to delude themselves into believing it cant be true

>>69326544
>lawyers say the rrat is plausible and something they have seen many times in asia
>sisters delude themselves into believing it cant even be possible for such a thing to happen

>> No.69326943

>>69326659
Then why the fuck doesn't Maria get the buff? Why is /our girl/ and her incredible cover coming out tomorrow languishing in actual starvation just to afford her projects?

>>69326805
She'll succeed just like Reimu did. https://twitter.com/ReimuEndou/status/1754946895951077887
Imagine being chinese but unable to COOK.

>> No.69326955

>>69326891
>Companies and streamers outside nijisanjiEN were falling all over themselves trying to work with Selen.

Not part of the Nijifamily if someone gets more opportunities than the hivemind. How dare she have solo success?

>> No.69326983

>>69326862
The question is #WHEREISELIRA
I think anycolor gave her to the Yakuza to use as a meat toilet since Elira can never earn back the hundreds of millions she tanked the company.

>> No.69327026

>asmon covered 39iqretard shittalking Doki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77T_vSOAPL8
kek

>> No.69327046

>>69326529
let me guess, elira told her that the reason she wasn't getting any sponsorships was because she needed to change her personality, even though elira was stealing them all and probably wanted to mold selen into an irrelevant non-threat

>> No.69327065

>Elira skipped Kyo's graduation
She is gone.

>> No.69327071

>>69326943
because Maria doesn't have a Japanese fanbase

>> No.69327080

>>69327026
Yeah that comment sums up how the average casual sees the situation kek
>Doki: "I'm harrassed"
>Niji: "BY US!!"
>Doki: "Wha- well, i won't drop any names-"
>The Three: "COULD BE US AND COULD BE MORE!"

>> No.69327114

>>69327026
>Asmon reacting to False reacting to Asmon
Is this really what amerifats think good content looks like?

>> No.69327131

>>69327071
She's trying so hard if they'd just help her she can make it.

>> No.69327145

>>69326758
Yeah, even as a Niji fan I know that's obviously bullshit.

>> No.69327153

>>69327065
Elira forced him to graduate

>> No.69327161

uh oh nijinegros another one dropped, not to kick a dead nijinigger dog but you will have not rest it seems, just after the lawyer 7h stream pounding you..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77T_vSOAPL8

>> No.69327178

>>69327131
I agree
>>69327153
damn maybe Elira is based

>> No.69327192

>>69327065
She is probably the next one in the graduation queue.

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>>69327080
you bastard, i was drinking water when i read this

>> No.69327229

>>69327192
I'd put a bigger bet on Petra or Rose being next in line

>> No.69327230

>>69327178
>Elira was the hero that finally freed us from the wigger
wtf my credit card is buying merch on its own??

>> No.69327244

>>69327114
Anon, youtube and twitch have been a mess of regurgitated content for a while now, did you lived under a rock?

>> No.69327277

>>69327178
>damn maybe Elira is based
And Vox tanking chink birth rate in same boat?

>> No.69327292

>>69327192
Or termination.
The only safe terminations for Nijisanji right now are the ones that are directly linked with the problems at the company. Terminations for talents like Elira are the only ones that can actually help their reputation and get the viewers to hear Niji out for the reason why they terminated her.
Compare that to if they terminated someone like Scarle right now: automatic, immediate angry mob accusing Nijisanji of learning nothing.

>> No.69327303

>>69327277
sure why not

>> No.69327331

>>69327277
Vox is the greatest vtuber who ever lived for what he did to the chinks. If Abe was still alive Vox would have been given government funding to continue his great work. If only you were still alive Abe... ;_;

>> No.69327343

>>69326943
>Imagine being chinese but unable to COOK.
Who is this referring to, Maria? Doki? They can both cook decently enough as far as I'm aware.

>> No.69327347

>>69327229
Honestly, Rosemi strikes me as the type who didn't join to be involved in such a mess and could leave just because the situation is so shitty.
Girl just wants to play Tekken on stream.

>> No.69327348

>>69327080
All the energy of lil bro telling mom and dad "I didn't do it!" before they've even noticed the broken cookie jar on the floor or the chocolate smeared across his face.

>> No.69327365

>>69327292
>termination
Never, that would be like admitting they were in the wrong and there was some form of harassment going on. At most they would allow Elira to have a soft graduation so she can "take care" of her mental health.

>> No.69327368

>>69327026
>NDF and clique start Special Smearing Operation
>reaching normie face-sellers cunts etc
>fails
Can't make this shit up

>> No.69327407

>>69327343
Doki. Read Reimu's tweet.

>> No.69327422

>>69326659
>why Petra and Kotoka also gets tons of deals despite being upopular
Petra hasn't gotten jackshit in over a year

>> No.69327449

>>69327292
I don't know. I think terminating Elira might look like the play on the face of it but after the initial catharsis wears off, people are going to draw comparisons to Selen and be like 'Niji management made her do their dirty work and when she failed in that impossible task they made her the scapegoat'. It would taint the entire branch even more because it would look like 'business as usual', but in the wrong way. It has to be what looks like a willing graduation or nothing.

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>>69327331
You know now it feels like...

>> No.69327507

>Vox got off scott free and Elira had to take the fall
Elira is a retard for pulling that stunt, but it's not fair

>> No.69327519

>>69327365
It's called a scapegoat.
If Niji admits Elira was in the wrong, it allows for a narrative where NijiJP is now coming in to tardwrangle NijiEN and ensure shit like that doesn't happen again. They throw Elira under the bus, highlight what she did and how she caused all these problems, apologize to Dokibird and reiterate their zero tolerance stance for bullying, and then promise to be better in the future. Suddenly everyone applauds NijiJP for catching the culprit and is a little more accepting of the idea that Nijisanji as a general brand and company can recover from this.

The point is to isolate the wrongdoing and connect it specifically to 1-2 parties, and explain that the problem should be resolved now that they've been dealt with.

What's their other option? Let the internet keep thinking Nijisanji as a whole is incompetent and against Dokibird? Nah, they're 100% gonna throw us a scapegoat at some point.

>> No.69327526

>>69327365
But that is a good thing, anon cause it would give people the impression Niji is actually trying to clean house now.
All they would have to do is wash their hands of the incident and flex the residual droplets on Elira. We know they never had an issue to do that.

>> No.69327557

>>69327507
>you almost killed the branch
>now we'll kill you to save it

>> No.69327575

>>69327519
>connect it specifically to 1-2 parties,
Riku and nijisanji

>> No.69327590

>>69326776
>Rosemi and Selen pushed to the edges
>no Pommers

>> No.69327599

>>69327080
more like
- i was harassed in company and blame company for it
- how dare you accuse our livers!
- i will not drop any names to prevent hate
- look at this 5. Why are you ruining their lives? They believe they did nothing wrong!

>> No.69327619

>>69327449
No? When Elira, Enna, Millie, and Vox are terminated in a batch the narrative is going to be corporate's trust was betrayed by a liver turned middle-management. Things are painful now but it's going to get better. Tazumi gave the hard 90-degree. Maria's cover with pomu is tomorrow. More birthdays, anniversaries, and nijifes. Now that Elira has shut the fuck up for entire days after beheading the company the healing can begin. without her or the worst of the clique

>> No.69327632

>>69319132
This, but in a less concerned and more livid tone

>> No.69327676

>>69326862
WHY IS ELIRA?

>> No.69327681

>>69327632
Then take out the "is".
"Where'sElira?".

>> No.69327687

>>69327590
Who do you think was doing the pushing?

>> No.69327702

>>69327619
The issue here is that Niji ALSO put out that statement backing them up after the blackscreen stream, almost immediately. People aren't going to buy that Elira just went rogue and did everything without management approval. Some other heads have to roll if they want to sell that.

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>>69323972
Not sure if anyone talked about this, but she was doing a bunch of main channel programs by that time.
2 hours before Selen's termination went out, Niji JP twitter posted this.

>> No.69327736

>>69327192
To make things more efficient, Nijisanji should get rid of the queue, and make a graduation party.
Everyone from lazusydia is leaving! Except Finana!

>> No.69327764

>>69327619
>>69327449
Forgot Luca, Uki, and Reimu terminations.
It's unfortunate but Petra and Rosemi are probably going to graduate once their contracts are up if they can't get out early.

On one hand, the branch is absolutely savaged. On the other, there's a bunch of overshadowed livers that can take their places.

>>69327702
That's the EN account we can't trust anything anymore. We don't know if it's corporate or one of the dicksuckers.

>> No.69327780

>>69327727
Yup, she is transferring to the JP branch. Mark my words.

>> No.69327793

>>69323638
Finana didn't go kek, she's also not under fire

>> No.69327802

>>69327780
>Chief of ladder deployment
>Debonair devil's food cake technician

>> No.69327816

>>69327736
>NijiEN hosts the first ever graduation collab stream

>> No.69327858

>>69323638
>Finana
She was broke and didn't go

>> No.69327868

>>69327764
But Vox said you can graduate any time. You don't need to wait for your contract to end...

>> No.69327869

It's obvious none of you ever watched Elira or know anything about her. I trust Pomu more than any of you niggers and she loves Elira

>> No.69327873

>>69327764
Fucking imagine. After the apocalypse, Yu.Q. Wilson is the last remaining hope of NijiEN. The branch's future rests on his shoulders because he is so forgettable that he's not tainted.

>> No.69327896

With every talent that leaves, the noose gets tighter.
Nobody will believe Krisis or TTT are involved nor anyone joining from here on out.

>> No.69327897

>>69323638
Finana didn't go on the trip because the stupid gachawhore's cards were declined in a previous off collab which lead to Somebody having to pay for her. Bad blood is eternal.
After Finana destroyed her channel when Niji failed to protect her from groomers she's basically disappeared.

>> No.69327900

>>69327780
Well, I'll believe my own rrat.
>>69324431

>> No.69327909

>>69327869
I love Pomu. Pomu has awful friends.

>> No.69327920

>>69323638
>retard exposes himself as not even a thread reader
and these are the faggots that wany you to believe Elira is some evil mastermind.

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>>69324304
I could also see a timeline where Elira was working with the circumstances, i.e. main branch didn't give 2 shits about the EN sidebranch, hence the lack of proper management which brought in complaints from newer livers.

But while they would (probably naively) say that the issue should be raised with NijiJP management and get more managers and staff, Elira would get frustrated because she knows that JP management does not give half a shit. And the more the livers whined (without helping her do management work) the more resentment would build.
Newer livers would be right normally, because yes, management IS supposed to do a lot of the work Elira is doing. But what should "ideally" happen is often not what happens in reality.

And obviously thanks to doing all the work she had less time to stream, hence a lot of her peers overtook her - and all she could see is them whining about management, not helping out one bit, and maybe deciding "you know what, I can't stream enough to get money, I should at least get more merch as compensation".
And then that little spark of darkness just grew and grew until she became what she is now.

>> No.69327947

>>69320845
The most plausible rrat I've seen is that the document was just supposed to be her reasons for wanting to quit and she said she was going to make A statement if she's not allowed to. Niji side however misunderstood and thought that the document itself was supposed to be the statement, when she never said that.

>> No.69327949

>>69327736
lmao, i love how finana is clear of suspicion because she's not intelligent enough to have done or understood anything

>> No.69327951

>>69327896
>Elira graduated her Oshis from Nijisanji
>Vivi's going to graduate them all, from life...

>> No.69327957

>>69324585
What if she gets terminated and goes full crying Dogeza to Doki herself? Admits fault and Doki reluctantly accepts, but never wants to talk to her again?

>> No.69327977

>>69327909
Fittingly so

>> No.69327980

>>69319729
If I was a narcissistic woman with a clique that's been recently caught redhanded by the giga boss I'd most likely try pin the blame on someone else, preferably my right hand yessister and throw her under the bus with claims along the lines of "she made me do it or else she'll doxx/harm me I would never do such a thing unless I was absolutely forced to". And then the person I point at would follow suit and blame someone else, and vice versa, muddling the floor even more until everyone involved cancels each other out, then finishes with it all boiling down back to me, as everyone's statements get dissected by new management and I get the boot.

>> No.69328012

>>69327949
>Finana throws Zaion under the bus
>It's ok, she is just a retard, she didn't really mean it
>Finana throws Selen under the bus
>It's ok, she is just a retard, she didn't really mean it
I'm starting to believe that she is just a selfish cunt.

>> No.69328028

>>69327909
I can't believe you're shit talking Doki

>> No.69328033

>>69327736
>Pomu is gone, Elira is missing, Finana is so irrelevant, noone would even notice her absence
Is it officially over for lazulight?

>> No.69328038

>>69328012
She's just a retard
She didn't really mean it

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>>69328028
>Pomu has SOME awful friends

>> No.69328076

>>69327923
The slide into darkness always is insidious like that.

>>69327947
It's funny cause when you read https://twitter.com/dokibird/status/1757763627413631383 your natural response is to think she's full of shit.
But then there's like 8 minutes of Vox masturbating

>>69327949
She's clear cause after zaion, trapgate, and getting groomed she's fucked off.

>> No.69328092

>>69328028
No he said Pomu has awful friends. Pomy doesn’t consider Doki to be a friend so Doki isn’t part of that statement

>> No.69328102

>>69327980
This is the most fun outcome: if they all start turning on each other and nominating each other to be the scapegoat. This is the outcome we wanna see.

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>>69328092
Fuck off

>> No.69328128

>>69320558
NijiEN will pull out the deniable plausibility card and throw Elira to the wolves to appease the masses. They'll put all the blame on her for running a clique and bypassing/impersonating as management with her goons taking protection money from the freshies via gatekeeping project perms and other redtape bs

>> No.69328141

>>69328092
cope

>> No.69328153

>>69327920
>Accusing him of that
We're getting flooded because shit is getting posted and uploaded literally everywhere while naming us. You can't lump him together with the people who actually watched Selen and see too many coincidences.

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>>69326544

>> No.69328192

>>69328128
I can't wait for this retarded rrat to be proven wrong. You faggots make shit up and then gaslight yourselves into believeing it.

>> No.69328200

>>69328092
So all their streams together was just... really good cohabitating streammates?

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>>69323824
He made two "sad" tweets in his PL both yesterday (right before graduation) and today (right after).
Both got extremely high engagement thanks to the algo (more than he got as Kyo anyway).
He seems primed to make a move as of now.

>> No.69328230

>>69320726
Riku mentioned about establishing a more robust reporting system, which does tell me NijiEN has been an island where anarchy ruled and Elira being the multilingual opportunist, got herself the keys to the bridge connecting it to main

>> No.69328247

>>69328192
>I can't wait for this retarded rrat to be proven wrong
How?

>> No.69328257

>>69328192
prove it wrong then

>> No.69328262

>>69328200
Same thing happened with Scarle and Aster so you tell me.

>> No.69328273

https://youtu.be/z_bxU_aVKMU?t=1431
>By the way
>I've seen some stuff
>Don't worry because
>I never say anything before I get the full confirmation for it
All Niji talents should learn a thing or two

>> No.69328275

>>69325572
> livers A-B testing ideas on fucking 4chan
JUST

>> No.69328332

>>69328230
You act like Elira is the only one who can speak JP. You guys somehow forget about Petra who CAN ACTUALLY READ KANJI UNLIKE ELIRA AND HAS BEEN HELPING STAFF SINCE THE BEGINNING. She literally designed both Lazulight's and Obysdia's logos and is behind the scenes for almost every major event.

>> No.69328341

>>69328262
>Forced PR stunt by management

>> No.69328365

>>69328332
Yeah but Petra is actually a nice girl

>> No.69328368

>>69326423

As schizophrenic as it is, it still makes much more sense than anything you sisters blabbered about

>> No.69328400

>>69328275
Current rrat is that they have multiple groups, organized in specific discords doing exactly that, and seeing the number of threads we've had in recent days being basically "okay, pretend you're nijisanji. HOW DO YOU UNFUCK THIS?" I can believe it.

>> No.69328404

>>69320842
Considering her current reputation in addition to previous sponsors/collaborators refusing to have anything to do with NijiEN because of her, as well as the fact that her subcount is ratio + skill issued by the very liver she tried to kick out of the industry (now doing significantly better by comparison) you could say that the financial effects of terminating her is negligible

>> No.69328425

>>69328273
> I've seen some stuff
I think it implies there were some comments made about her

>> No.69328431

>>69328332
We've already talked ad nauseam about petra, tourist, and she's been exonerated thanks to deductive reasoning, fact-based inferences, and empirical evidence.

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>every other bro got his cute valentines stream while n*ji mean girl whores cowered in the shadows

>> No.69328463

>>69328012
Total Drama Island style

>> No.69328472

>>69328400
I mean they're keeping quiet, which was the loudest advice we gave them at the time, so it's plausible.

>> No.69328477

>>69328425
i'm pretty sure it's because of Enna
kek

>> No.69328501

>>69328365
>>69328431
>Petra, the girl Enna says is a savage behind the scenes
>the girl who famously never got along with Selen ever

>> No.69328522

>>69328273
> Don't worry! I never say anything before I get confirmation
>Not even in my membership!

Enna...

>> No.69328527

>>69323972
My theory is a little different. Elira did help out with management out of good will and it stayed that way. You see this with her collabs with Selen at the time and those two really hit it off.

It wasn't until Enna and Millie joined NijiEN that things went to shit. It was extremely likely that Enna and Millie were abusing their long friendship with Elira to get things to go their way, especially given Enna and Millie's personalities. When Elira is in a collab with Enna and/or Millie, you can see Elira being a complete doormat to those two. The possibility of Enna and Millie just manipulating and corrupting Elira is just so damn high that over time, Elira just became that rotten herself.

The collabs with non-clique members got less and less. Elira secured all the merch deals for herself. And she eventually abused her power to have a hand in the termination of Zaion and Selen. Later, as Enna and Millie grew more in popularity, Elira tried to do by stiffling Selen's projects. People who were super loved like Pomu and Nina were also given shit.

I absolutely agree with you that she is the most difficult talent to accuse of wrongdoing because she made herself into the posterchild and face of NijiEN. If Nijisanji terminates her, that means they terminate their NijiEN posterchild and that's not going to look good for the company's reputation or whatever remains of it. They either need to double down or absorb NijiEN into NijiJP and then let Elira die in obscurity.

>> No.69328600

>>69328522
Enna is getting btfo

>> No.69328624

>>69328368
I'm not a sister and I haven't watched Niji since Pomu left. I just know Elira better than any of you catalogniggers because I actually watched all of them since the beginning.

>> No.69328629

>>69328458
My X feed is flooded by so much fwmc that it kinda cancels out the cancer which is kinda nice

>> No.69328660

>>69325354
Congratulations, I broke my several year long spree of not posting in this hellhole to tell you to get A-chan's name the hell out of your mouth and to not ever compare her to Elira goddamn Pendora again.

Like good god come up with a worse idea while insulting someone that has made it their life's work to lovingly support a company they helped build from the ground up.

>> No.69328706

>>69328501
Yes, Petra effectively withdrew into her shell and the most she's done is vaguepost on her PL.
Her JP contributions ended unceremoniously very, very early on. Elira can't take not being the queen bee, no way she'd let a kouhai into the gravy train.

>> No.69328749

>>69328624
I know this bitch form before she was Elira, go sit in your corner stupid simp

>> No.69328795

>>69328749
Oh, you know N*va, the tumblr vtweeting feminist? My condolences.

>> No.69328850

dookiebird needs to stop before she gets in real trouble
imagine trying to tear down everyone who has ever helped you

>> No.69328853

>>69328527
Can confirm filipino women have that dog in them. I've seen it happen so many times that it's a stereotypical telenovela character in every. single. pinoy TV
The infamous "marites". Look it up, it's a huge sociocultural phenomenon in the Philippines

>> No.69328858

>>69328706
Petra was literally about to cohost Mario Kart

>> No.69328863

>selen tells management that if they keep ghosting her then she's going to drop a PR nuke on them about harassment/etc

This is incorrect, the document explained the reasons she wanted to leave, Nijisanji interpreted it as a threat instead.

>> No.69328917

>>69328863
Then they outed themselves like the rookiest mistake anyone does in amogus

>> No.69328921

>>69328863
The document was a glorified bullying journal, really. They reacted so strongly because they were expecting her to make it public.

>> No.69328981

>>69328850
pipe down SEAnigger

>> No.69328987

>>69328795
>/wvt/troons sperging
the picture begins to come into focus

>> No.69329015

>>69328921
My rrat is that they got scared because they remembered Sayu's manifesto and didn't want to take the chance of Selen exposing them.

>> No.69329082

Elira got a lot of sponsore because not only was she the face of EN, but she's famously easy to work with. Selen was infamous for not taking sponsors because she was really fucking bad at it by her own admission. Nijisanji does have a favoritism problem, but it's not some deep seeded conspiracy. They got her to do the video because she is the mosy popular EN girl.

>> No.69329094

>>69322869
Inb4 she has keys to the NijiEN X page for being their translator/covergirl and used that to go rogue

>> No.69329161

>>69324585
>if she doesnt confess to crime i invented for her then it means she did the crime i made up and is as bad as the strawman i created!

>> No.69329173

>>69329082
>They got her to do the video because she is the mosy popular EN girl.
That's Enna.

>> No.69329180

>>69328863
Correct. The legal document was meant to substantiate the grounds for her contract termination with cause.
She wanted to quit without going through the arduous process of waiting for a graduation (6+ months) and then not being able to stream Indie for another indefinite amount of time due to non-compete agreements.

She wanted out immediately.

>> No.69329188

>>69318935
Too busy giving apologize heads to the JP overlords. Expect some post-jaw surgery streams after she got back.

>> No.69329225

>>69318935
good, I hope she never streams again

>> No.69329249

>>69329180
>She wanted out immediately.
But Le Retard De Vox Akuma said that she could have graduated whenever she wanted...

>> No.69329292

>>69329082
>Elira got a lot of sponsore because not only was she the face of EN, but she's famously easy to work with.
5 times as much as Pomu? Get real. Also
>the face of EN
...because she was stealing the sponsorships, yes. Don't use cyclical logic on us

>> No.69329330

>>69327407
What of the bento streams that Selen made on stream then?

>> No.69329341

>>69329249
Yeah, just how Pomu could have graduated whenever she wanted, evidently, that's why she had to ask for a graduation in March only to be able to leave 6+ months later. Lmao.
That's why Mysta had to wait almost a full year. Rumao.

>> No.69329352

Btw didn't they take Selen's access to her X account when she posted something along the lines of "pls reupload"? Or am I missing the timeline here

>> No.69329416

>>69329352
SIR DON'T THINK ABOUT IT

>> No.69329437

>>69329082
Just because you camp the tree doesn't mean you're the tallest of the bunch

>> No.69329445

>>69329249
she can start graduation process, vox didnt say she can do it immediately.

>> No.69329462

>>69329082
>most popular EN girl
>lower income earner than Scarle, Enna, and Mille from memberships and superchats

Sasuga

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>>69329292
Yeah, because staff considered her the face of Lazulight. Pomu got plenty of sponsors. Don't use my oshi to attack her wife, nigger

>> No.69329556

>>69329445
You know perfectly well that's not what he meant. Selen wanted to get out immediately because she couldn't keep working with Nijisanji.

>> No.69329593

>>69329445
Can't wait for them to complain about getting harassed for bringing out their truth so I can send them a clip of vox saying quitting has always been an option

>> No.69329636

>>69329462
post historical data

>> No.69329669

>>69329516
>because 'staff' considered her the face of lazulight
>staff
>Elira herself
>the face
>neither the most popular(by any metric whatsoever) nor the first to debut
Get real.

>> No.69329685

>>69329593
You want to make them quit with harassment?

>> No.69329725

What if she did all this, acted like an asshole after so many years being nice, because she was actually into Selen and got rejected? If she can't have her, nobody can

>> No.69329727

>>69329173
After Selen and Pomu left you mean

>> No.69329740

>Selen: "You guys almost made me kill myself. Please, just let me go"
>Kurosanji: "No, we need you to go out there, tell everyone that you broke the rules and how sorry you are about it. And we expect you to play ball from now on."
>Le Retard De Vox Akuma: "She could have graduated whenever she wanted! *chuckles*
Vile piece of shit.

>> No.69329803

>>69329669
>made up bullshit
ignored
Pomu has said on multiple occasions that staff consider Elira the face of Lazulight.

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>>69329727
Yes

>> No.69329863

>>69329803
Yes, JP staff. I FUCKING WONDER WHY

>> No.69329867

>>69329516
>pomu got plenty of sponsors
>2 promotions in all of 2023
meanwhile
>9 promotions for Elira


Sasuga

>> No.69329879

>>69329740
Take that mirror away, you’re just repeating yourself and seething

>> No.69329902

>>69327780
It's not that she's transferring to the main branch, she has an inside line on EN getting the ID/KR treatment soon and wants to land on her feet when the merge comes by ingratiating herself with JP management in advance.

>> No.69329943

>>69329740
>bitch with bpd lies
>people believe all the lies about the people against her because she tried to off herself

>> No.69329975

>>69329879
>Can't disprove anything
>"y-you are seething"
Ogey

>>69329943
What lies? Nijisanji confirmed everything.

>> No.69330008

>>69329943
If you think Selen is Satan because she has "BDP", wait until you learn what the rest of the girls have, sister

>> No.69330020

>>69329943
Saying something along the lines of "I can kill people and you'll still support me" doesn't help that narrative

>> No.69330024

>>69329867
>hurr wye didnt dey gin spnsurs ta da parsn ho is graduatin
gee i wonder retard

>> No.69330116

>>69330024
>I used my crystal ball that you're graduating in 2024 so you're only getting crumps of sponsorships for the next two years!
Are you retarded?

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>>69330020
Stop digging for the truth anon

>> No.69330145

>>69329943
Still no proof that she has bpd.

>> No.69330147

>>69330024
Literally ALL OF THEM individually have less than half of what Elira gets

>> No.69330204

>>69330116
She put im her notice in July you stupid thread readimg nigger

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>They are still using the BPD claim like if it was worth a shit
Please, for the love of god, get some new material, everyone is tired of laughing at you

>> No.69330250

>>69330024
>"You're not graduating until January 2024 so we're not going to give you any individual merch releases in 2023. Even in the months before we knew you were graduating"
Yeah nah.

>> No.69330269

>>69330204
>omg it's not two years in advance, in fact my crystal ball only reached ONE YEAR AND A HALF in advance!
>so there you chud!

>> No.69330271

>>69330020
But it can help you get elected president of the united states

>> No.69330283

>>69330204
NTA
Is that why Mysta was in all group and many solo promos even though he put in his graduation notice 1 year in advance?

>> No.69330298

>>69329943
>self-diagnosing people and using that as a basis for an argument
Let's see some certificates unless you wanna be diagnosed with tier 3 schizophrenia

>> No.69330315

>>69330250
Seeing as they didn't bother fixing her 3d for that reason? Yeah that's exactly what happend.

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>> No.69330411

>>69330315
They did fix it, she got Home3D the day after she announced graduation LOL

>> No.69330435

>>69330298
She literally used to have
>livinng with bpd
in her bio

>> No.69330512

>>69330411
It was still broken, she couldn't turn off her wings and the hair constantly clipped through her body

>> No.69330549

>>69330411
It wasn't fixed, once again proving yourself to be nothing but a catalog monkey. She said they let her use it because she was leaving the hair and wings were still fucking up till the end.

>> No.69330569

>>69328858
Probably because they were going to announce Obsydia 3D, which at this point is never going to happen

>> No.69330571

>>69330512
And before it wouldn't even work at all

>> No.69330581

>>69330435
Oh no my oshi has big penis disorder woe is me

>> No.69330610

>>69330435
Sister, you understand that even if she had a doctor certified(tm) BPD certificate... it changes nothing? Your smear attempt doesn't work outside of your echo chamber because the only people who can look at this situation and be anti Dokibird are the ones desperate enough to grasp at ANYTHING

>> No.69330639

>>69330569
It's ok anon, Finana will join Obsydia after Elira announces her graduation

>> No.69330670

>>69328527
The merge is going to get accelerated if they can't come up with a plan. The clique fucked up too much and Anycolor isn't willing to pay for good english management to tard wrangle them. Everyone except the VTA skippers are going to suffer once it happens.

>> No.69330681

>>69330315
They stopped working to fix her 3D when she announced graduation in July. Doesn't explain why they stopped featuring her in merch even before that. And plus, there is no reason to stop featuring her in merch even after she submitted her graduation. If anything, it would have made more sense to try and milk her image as much as they could before she left, but they didn't. Very odd decision for a for-profit business.

>> No.69330710

>>69330610
>because the only people who can look at this situation and be anti Dokibir
people with brains? Youre just a zombie who follows a bandwagon. Youre not intelligent by by brainlessly anti-corpo.

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>>69330435
WHO THE FUCK IS BPD?
I thought she was a virgin

>> No.69330834

>>69330710
>people with brains? Youre just a zombie who follows a bandwagon. Youre not intelligent by by brainlessly anti-corpo.
Sister, you are the ones who are ignoring the facts. No one really cares about Doki trying to kill herself or having mental issues, we are only reacting to how Nijisanji has handled her termination.

>> No.69330860

>>69330710
No matter how much you sisters repeat this to yourselves, it doesn't make it true. You are not smart, you are not using your brains at all. Hell, ask yourself why you got all anxious when the upvotes got removed; you NEED that validation, desperatedly.

Here, I'll put here in terms you chinks can understand: your whole attempt at claiming Selen's fart stink isn't working.... BECAUSE ELIRA/IKE/VOX SHAT ON THE FLOOR IN PUBLIC, IN FRONT OF MILLIONS. To say nothing at the pure diahhrea that was that termination notice.

I hope that helps.

>> No.69330875

>>69330710
Not him, but again, there is no proof that she has or doesn't have bpd.

>> No.69330897

>>69330681
You know she probably just opted out right? She had tons of outfit tickest from doing sponsors and even had time to use one but didn't see the point and gave them to someone else.

>> No.69330923

>>69328332
>She literally designed both Lazulight's and Obysdia's logos
She only designed Obsydia's logo, and that wasn't even intentional. They were brainstorming logos and Petra submitted an idea. Management saw what she uploaded and said, "whatever good enough" and used it despite her not liking it.

>> No.69330996

>>69330875
She has bpd according to her, she also acts and behaves like she is mentally ill.

>> No.69331009

copying my post from another thread

>>69330710
Just imagine yourself having issues with your manager or co-workers, you file a complaint to higher ups and requesting it to be private. Two days later you get fired and they publicly announce your complaints to the world. A week later your co-workers come out and say they’ve read the entire document you sent to HR. Ignore legality and think about it morally. Tell me why you think this is okay.

>> No.69331040

>>69330996
>t. armchair psychologist

>> No.69331064

>>69329516
Pomie (if you really are) I'm going to say this as politely as possible. Wake the fuck up, please.

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>>69330996
>You can't trust Doki
>But you can trust her BPD claims
>I'm very smart, I read a wikipedia article about it

>> No.69331133

>>69330996
According to her, yes. But unless she has a psychiatrist licence, which I doubt, or she got diagnosed by a profesionnal, which we can't know based on a years old twitter bio, then again there is no actual proof that she has bpd.

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>>69330996
>she also acts and behaves like she is mentally ill.
Nu uh, stop projecting

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>>69331064
You gonna tell that to Pomu too? seeing as she's been hanging out with them in Japan? It's because I'm a pomie that I know you faggots don't know anything

>> No.69331232

>>69331009
>you sent to HR.

she never said she sent anything to hr lmao. She sent it to lawyers clearly threatening nijisanji itself accusing talents of bullying her.

How can Nijisanji investigate her accusations without telling them theyre accused of something, think stupid.

She was fired for multiple times not cooperating with nijisanji management and undermining them.

>> No.69331280

>>69330996
If that's all it takes then I identify as a 150IQ prodigy with severe autism and you can't refute my logic because I'm higher IQ than you

>> No.69331285

>>69331133
she goes to therapist so its legit.

>> No.69331303

>>69331228
Oh ok, so you're a larper, got it. Nevermind, you can take a long walk off a short pier.

>> No.69331329

>>69330897
>You know she probably just opted out right?
Why would she opt-out? That makes no sense. Especially when she mentioned that she was sad Pomudachis weren't part of the NijiMascot merch. That doesn't sound like something someone who "opted-out" would say.
>She had tons of outfit tickest from doing sponsors and even had time to use one but didn't see the point and gave them to someone else.
The one she used was given in May 2023, and she had already designed it, but because outfits take like a year to produce, she's giving the outfit to someone else (not the ticket, the outfit).

>> No.69331379

>>69331285
She went to a therapist after trying to kill herself. Not exactly a big surprise here but not a conclusive proof for bpd.

>> No.69331395

>>69331228
>seeing as she's been hanging out with them in Japan?
There has been no indication of that, so yeah, you're a larper

>> No.69331399

>>69331228
>seeing as she's been hanging out with them in Japan?
She said she wasn't hanging out with them, actually

>>69331232
>She sent it to lawyers clearly threatening nijisanji itself accusing talents of bullying her.
Proof?

> without telling them theyre accused of something, think stupid.
Because you don't have to share CONFIDENCIAL LEGAL DOCUMENTS with the people you are investigating.

>>69331285
>she goes to therapist so its legit.
Because she literally tried to kill herself in two different occasions. Sister, maybe you should go to therapy too.

>> No.69331411
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69331411

>>69331303
Not a larper nigger, but you are

>> No.69331485

>>69331399
She hasn't said that at all actually

>> No.69331527

>>69331485
>I'm going to meet with some friends
>...no, they are not the ones you are thinking of

>> No.69331561

>>69331399
Said 2 different occasions were 2 weeks apart.

>> No.69331591

>>69331527
>she wasn't meeting them that day so that means she never has.

>> No.69331623

>>69331399
>you don't have to share
why not "here it says you said this Vox, read this part" ?
It's probably okay that's why dookie will not do anything about it. The people have the right to know what theyre being accused of and what shit she's saying about them while trying to squeeze money out of niji.

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>>69331561
...And? Are you a retard?

>> No.69331643

>>69330024
You're so fucking dumb.

>> No.69331661

>>69331561
And that's relevant how?

>> No.69331683

>>69328332
I’ve said this too. She might’ve been the one who sent the message to Selen about perms. Probably while doing 245688855 things on the side. She might’ve been saddled with the task with the knowledge that it would be slow

>> No.69331684

>>69331232
>ignoring the public part

>> No.69331721

>>69331623
>Vox: I thoroughly reviewed the legal documents that Selen's lawyer sent
So... is he lying then?

>> No.69331840

>>69331591
I mean, she hasn't even teased about meeting any of them, and she is not shy about doing stuff like that.

>> No.69331901

>>69331232
You know you can investigate things without interrogation?

>> No.69331959

>>69331840
She's gone out of her way to not mention Niji at all retard. because she knows faggots like you are only listening for your own petty bullshit

>> No.69331971

>>69330710
You are not an intelligent person.

>> No.69332056

>>69331959
Sure, and that's why she has teased her meeting with Matara. Or maybe, just maybe, she isn't planning to meet up with her Niji friends just yet.

>> No.69332092

>>69331527
So no one from vshojo

>> No.69332233

>>69331623
Keep coping, sister. The billion dollar company is your friend, after all.

>> No.69332273

>>69332092
She literally met up with Matara

>> No.69332275

>>69332056
gee I didn't realize Matara was still in Nijisanji. fucking retard. She literally has gone out of her way to never mention them in any context.

>> No.69332407

>>69331721
the parts of documents that he was giving... autistchama

>> No.69332416

>>69332275
Even when mentioning vtubers she watches? doesn't mention any Niji even though we know for a fact she watches Amamya, Belmond amd Mito. She's not gonna talk about niji

>> No.69332563

>>69331623
>The people have the right to know what theyre being accused of
sure if you completely ignore the power structure in a company and how that ties into it all, reminder she never sued there's no lawsuit yet

>> No.69332569

>>69329943
Doesn't matter if Selen has bpd
She didn't out the livers being bullies
NijiEN did and Elira went full retard and name dropped who

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