Matara kan one of the rats

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I this Livestream a while ago Matara kan talked about Selen
https://youtu.be/i1IeMp-UVVg?si=y077NyrK9K6Oku5n
JDR4

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>>69266354
You could provide a timestamp in a 6h vod

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>>69266354
>No timestamp
Then before the OP tries to do anything else if this is what I'm thinking of then Mata accidentally says Selen's name during the stream at one point and tries to play it off by saying she doesn't know anyone by that name and there'd be no reason for her to say that name. Because she can't say she used to work there and not for some dumb rrat reason.

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>>69266354
holy fuck why are you Nijisisters so retarded. It's a fucking 6 hour VOD i'm not digging through this without a timestamp

[Anonymous No.]

Its 32:35

[Anonymous No.]

falseflag

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>>69266354
What a waste of a thread. Selen yourself anon, and make sure you don't fail

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>>69266354
Let me skim through this six hour video real quick you retarded pig.

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>>69266668
>omg matara called selen a gremlin 3 months ago say it aint so
stop trying to drag nina back into your drama shithole nijisister

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>>69266354
>3 months ago
wow very relevant

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>>69266354
Is she going to poach Kyo?

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>>69267124
It kills the narrative that they were friends pretty outright.

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>>69267428
Only if she never wants to poach Pomu.

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>>69267124
Vshojo antis are so starved they will look at the smallest crumbs like a feast, please understand.

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>>69267516
First I've heard of this "narrative." They mostly didn't interact and then had an awkward conversation during her final totsu as Nina. They weren't besties, who gives a shit? There's no indication they HATE each other.

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>>69267516
Only that she also called Pomu a gremlin multiple times, and they are besties. So if anything it's the opposite, it confirms that Matara and Selen are friends.

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>>69268815
What? The clip was her saying that Selen wasn't a friend, just a coworker.

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>>69268875
Yeah, which is also what she said about Pomu all the time. It's a bit you retarded nenmen whore, of course a femcel like you wouldn't understand it.

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>>69268958
She doesn't say Selen is a gremlin. She accidently says the name Selen instead of Zen and goes on a rant on how it's weird because her and Selen were just coworkers.

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>>69269089
>moving goalposts
lmfao retarded nijifemcel you already lost cope seethe and dilate

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>>69266354
>learn from selen's mistakes (32:37)
want my schizo take? selen's mistake was going against the clique

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>>69269162
https://youtu.be/i1IeMp-UVVg?t=1950

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>>69269335
>moving goalposts
lmfao retarded nijifemcel you already lost cope seethe and dilate

[Anonymous No.]

>>69269335
>>69269089
>>69266668
That's kinda bad but Nina was always a men-crazy pick-me girl, it's not that weird for her and Selen to just be coworkers.

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>>69269277
Don't turn your back on the wolf pack. You might wind up in a bodybag.

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>>69267124
>>69268815
>gremlin
How do you get that from what she said? She said "learn from Selen's mistakes" while talking some shit about the TTS tranny.

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>>69266476
No
>>69267124
She fought to be in the clique, now she must fight to get out or become victim to the rrats

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>>69269519
They're a mousefag trying to deflect because Matara is in VShojo.

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>>69269277
>schizo take
If anything your take is the normal one.

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>>69269335
Yeah this is nothing.

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>>69269603
It's pretty telling that Ironmouse and Matara are completely avoiding Doki. They know something we don't.

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>>69269670
I agree. It just means that they were coworkers rather than friends. On its own, it's not much.

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>>69269692
Ironmouse has never once interacted with Selen.

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>>69266354
based Matara

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>>69269692
Mouse is friends with Hasan.

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>>69269756
Iron Mouse is a dubious judge of character anyways.

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>>69269756
But other Vshojo members like Melody, Froot and Zentreya did, so it's weird for IM to stay quiet and not even follow her.

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>>69270016
Ok but what does that have to do with Ironmouse? She's not friends with Selen.

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>>69269897
I wasn't watching her before and I'm watching her even less now.

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>>69269692
The smartest thing for a corpo to do right now is listen to their legal department and stfu.

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>>69270016
>GUYS WHY IS GURA SILENT ABOUT SELEN? MUMEI IS FRIENDS WITH DOKI. WHY IS GURA STAYING QUIET?

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>>69270140
She's the Queen Bee of Vshojo. Why is she ignoring her friend's friend in time of need?

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>>69270016
>IM has to follow everyone her friends collabed with
Are you retarded? Those people follow her IM doesn't, there's nothing here.

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>>69270140
It's just bait anon. Don't worry about it.
But for the sisters out there, you should know that Zentreya played Free bird on stream the day of the termination

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>>69270281
Matara probably aligns closer to the clique, so there's no point in Mouse upsetting Matara over Doki.

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>>69266354
>Compares Selen to Zentreya, who she likes
>”Please don’t take this the wrong way”
>”I was never that close to her”
Clearly Matara is conspiring with Ironmouse to help the clique cancel Dokibird. Of course Vshojo wants to have their talents be publicly crucified to take the heat off Nijisanji. That makes sense.
Retard.

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>>69270358
It goes on for another minute or two of her repeatedly saying they weren't friends.

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>>69269692
As soon as Mouse interacts with Doki, all the spergs are gonna bitch that she's poaching her or some dumb shit. Mouse knows this so she's staying quiet.

[Anonymous No.]

>Psyop Sister Thread
>Sisters are trying to divide /vt/ by combining other vtubers together or pitting them against each other.
COPE SISTERS

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>>69270484
Weak ass excuse lmao

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>>69270680
Meant for: >>69270465

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>>69270465
It's gotta be annoying for the VShojos to not be able to interact with anyone who just graduated without a hundred comments about them joining

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>>69270425
That means she doesn’t want to be involved, sister. She’s not on your side.

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>>69269897
there is a law I have yet to find an exception for that any Latin American or Turkish streamer has to be politically retarded.

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>>69270281
>The Queen Bee must insert herself in every little aspect of her friend's lives
Holy shit you Nijisisters are not only retarded, but abused. I feel sorry for you.

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>>69270818
Hasan's literally only popular because he's pretty

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>>69270841
Mousecuck coping and damage controlling

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Nina and Selen did that famous off collab stream together with the collars. They must be pretty good friends after that.

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>>69266354
>>69267124
If anybody actually thinks Nina is good and wasn't part of the clique, you're retarded. I can't believe people still fall for the "she's innocent because she graduated" shtick.

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Can you stop slandering my roach mother you bastard

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>>69271133
>part of the clique
>left niji entirely and didn't when stay when she could've got benefits if part of the clique
>shit-talked her own group near the end of her career for letting her rot behind the scenes
>dunks on niji management all the time
lol

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>>69271133
Then why did she join a company that has Kson in it?

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>>69266668
You realize she isn't supposed to admit she worked for nijisanji. She was probably afraid of breaking an agreement she signed. She also never mentioned Pomu and Mika by name. Think about it

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>>69271133
isn't the shit that nina caught like a direct reason why we even know about the clique?

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>>69270749
This is from 3 months ago. The Selen drama didn't even happen yet.

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>>69271465
Don't cope, she said clearly: "I worked with someone named Selen" in the very time stamp that was posted. Watch for more than 20 seconds please.

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>>69269692
Nope
It is just that there was no verdict from court. They literally have nothing to gain as a corpo by shitting on niji and they have everything to lose when by some miracle niji is one that actually is right.
Even Phase Connect girls are at most laughing about it, but won't comment on it openly.

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>>69271527
No. It's proof that the others were nepohires, but she was certainly a member of the clique.

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>>69270484
based god

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why do so many niggas want matara to be involved in this
she wasn't part of this supposed clique, else why would she leave at all and not just enjoy the free ride, nevermind the fact that she revealed that she was ostracised by her own group for ages. She wasn't mentioned by name in the document in that horrid livestream elira did, constantly shit-talks niji management and is currently doing her own thing. this whole thing is so retarded

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>>69266354
this isn't much, but I got bad vibes from her when the clique was shitting on selen and she was trying to change the subject. People only do this kinda of stuff around their clique, so they either saw nina as one of them or they knew she wouldn't mind/do anything about it.

[Anonymous No.]

Sisters, this can be hard to understand, but please try not to project.

Mouse does not play the same role as Elira in Vshojo. Vshojo actually has dedicated managers, freeing the talents up to actually do talent stuff and not act out Lord of the Flies. Kuro and Matara have expressed how much of a relief that is.

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>>69271882
>why do so many niggas want matara to be involved in this
She was in the "bad wave", but people fail to realize that her wave did not like her (initially) and that she ran out the door as soon as she could. Granted, she's been grinding at this for years even before vtubing. So, you could make the logical assumption that she would go along to get along to succeed. However, I don't think that's the case, but, I could always be wrong.

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>>69272246
i just feel its funny that matara is part of le clique when she even said that her own group didn't care about her at all (a group consisting of enna and millie, the two NAMED individuals in the clique), left the first chance she got before this drama started and now she's somehow a part of it all. so stupid

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>>69272246
>>69272423
Anyone who watched Ethyria knows she got along very well with Millie, Enna, and Reimu.

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>>69272512
anon she had better odds with luxiem and pomu then she ever did with her own group

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>>69272670
You're a thread reader. They frequently did off-collabs. Ethyria was probably the most close-knit group NijiEN had.

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>>69272512
I would say she probably forced herself into a friendly position, after realizing the power dynamics at play internally. It's not difficult to pick up on office politics and mean girl cliques if you've seen them before.
The only real question you can have here is how aware she was of the shit that was going on, not so much that she took part in any of it. To which I would say: she probably knew at least little bit, though I doubt she had a hand in any of it and realistically you are never going to know for sure unless she openly admits it.

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>>69272898
anon she still left the most "close-knit" group to go her own way and still told her about what they did to her in the first place, so it couldn't be that close in the first place

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>>69272670
She was only excluded in the beginning. She became good friends later. She also ditched the Luxiem leeching completely since she was being attacked for it.

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>>69271882
it's just nijisisters trying to deflect by throwing every shit at the wall hoping anything sticks and magically distracts everyone from the main fact that their company is a dumpster fire.
>"omg b-but have you considered what [random ex-talent that graduated months ago] said or didn't say about Doki??? This is uhh totally very important because uhh [schizo reasons] and uhhh yeah so umm therefore idk plz stop shitting on us..."
Notice how they don't even pretend to argue anymore that Kurosanji isn't a shithole company or that the bully clique doesn't exist, all they have left is to try to character assassinate ("Doki has BPD so everything she said didnt happen and we're totally good!!") or drag others ("umm actually Nina was part of the clique as well!!!" lmao so you even admit the clique is real, nice another classic Niji self own) in an attempt to muddy the waters with impotent flailing.

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>>69273058
Anon, she's still openly friends with Ethyria. She's done off-collabs post-graduation.

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>>69273207

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>>69267516
>the narrative
There was a narrative? Where? was it over here, or over there? How come I've never seen this narrative before? Do you think you could show us this narrative in the wild when you first encountered it?

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>>69271452
Vshojo is THE CLIQUE company. You can get in only through nepotism.

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>>69273557
/vsj+/ has been /in/posting Selen/Doki for months

[Anonymous No.]

Nina's interaction with Selen in her graduation stream was awkward as fuck. You can tell both of them hated doing it.

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>>69273386
>Scarle in the clique
lul

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I don’t know why it’s hard to believe for people but it’s possible she is both:
-not in the clique
-not particularly close to selen
Doesn’t mean she’s AGAINST selen (I hope not), but is probably the same as Kuro; they know about the bullshit the clique got up to, but they don’t actually want to jeopardise the careers of the other talents who never took part in bullying and just want to do their job and stream (which I get, but goddamn all the people that just let all this bullying and harassment just happen…)
So I think vshojo as a whole are trying to go hands off this time and not get involved at all in case they get sued or something, idk.

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>>69274128
It's possible that she's not in the clique. But she certainly was and is still friends with many of the people in the clique.

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>>69274128
this is the actual reason, if she was in the clique, why would she ever have reasons to leave? it's clear that she's mostly just friends with millie and some others but left cause niji was still a shithole

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>>69269692
Matara probably knows that Selen/Doki isn't compeltely innocent like the internet thinks she is.

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>>69269692
The mouse is part of the clique
Wait on the coffee journalist video

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>>69274694
Hopefully. Though I hope she doesn't go back to fleshtubing and goes with a legally distinct model away from Niji. Want to start supporting her again but I refuse to give a cent to Niji

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>>69274587
According to her, she left due to imposter syndrome. She wanted to grow more as a vtuber and felt inadequate, so she left Nijisanji.

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>>69269692
why, she has no part of it
there is no benefit to getting involved in drama that has nothing to do with you except maybe if you are trying to twist it into self promotion

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>>69274128
>goddamn all the people that just let all this bullying and harassment just happen
I think you know something we don’t with these conclusions you’re making. Wanna share something to the class?

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>>69266354
>rats
Nijisister...
Your falseflags are weak.

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>>69273386
Try harder.

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>>69269519
lil bro watch literally 1 more minute of the video

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>>69273272
Also, she still hasn't exposed or called out Enna for CP.

[Anonymous No.]

Not everything has to be a harbinger event for some secret cause. They were co-workers and probably weren't really friends, Matara most likely wants nothing to do with her issues simply because it would be a pain for her to be involved and she doesn't care about an ex-coworker enough to have schizos on all her posts. I still don't think Selen would have chosen to pay 15k and go through so much trouble over "perms" to specifically put one of the bitches that was bullying her into suicide on the MV that caused this fuck up cascade.

[Anonymous No.]

Or maybe Selen is the problem

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>>69279080
May have believed this if it wasn't for the Niji response. The fact they timed there hit piece video to exactly line up with dokis first gaming stream tells us everything we need to know about how those vtubers are behind the scenes.

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>>69279080
So true sister!

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>>69273690
/vsj+/ here, we /in/post fucking everyone.

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>>69279258
>overlapping streams is harassment.
She's so fragile, maybe the things she considered to be harassment weren't so evil after all.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69271527
Indeed

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>>69279456
So disingenuous.

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>>69266354
Stop trying to drag Matara back into your Nijinigger bullshit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69271996
She probably couldn't do anything about it without clique consequences. Defending Selen means betraying the clique even that far back

[Anonymous No.]

>>69279329
>Everyone says bad things about Selen, even ex-niji members
>Am I the problem? No, they all are.
Cope.

[Anonymous No.]

ANIT-NIJISANJI ACTION
>HOLOCHADS WON
>DRAGOONS WON
>INDIE VT’S WON
>RRATS WON
NDF
>NIJICLIQUE LOST
>NIJISISTERS LOST
>NIJIFUJOSHIS LOST

[Anonymous No.]

>>69279768
>Some people(of The Clique and their friends) say bad things about Selen
FTFY

[Anonymous No.]

>>69279329
I'm not a sister, Matara having no horse in this race doesn't make Niji any less retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69279768
>even ex-niji members
Like the one she's streaming with in a couple hours or like the one that showed her support since day 1 of this shit show?

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>>69273045
I highly doubt the clique trusted her enough to actually let her in on anything, they just wanted her to realize she had to rely on the clique so she wouldn't rebel instead.

Its a "we'll be nice if you obey" dynamic.
Nina decided to put her head down to avoid issues, Selen didn't, which is why she was a target of harassment

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>>69279871
Nijisisters we didn't lose r-right...

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>>69273045
if shes not good friends with millie why did they do the bit on twitter where they both talked about meeting in an elevator after she joined vshojo? if i met somebody i didnt like i wouldnt go out of my way to announce it like a happy ever to strangers on the internet

>>69279456
>overlapping
hitpiece prerecorded video going live at the same time she does her first game stream. totally a coincidence

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>>69279909
Wishing the best for Matara after getting out, but come on anon.

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>>69279768
>even ex-niji members

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>>69274128
True, Niji is known to sue for dumb shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69271613
I've worked with someone named Selen.
It is kind of obvious that she accidentally said it and panicked a bit trying to cover for it.

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>>69274442
It probably wouldn't do her any good to go scorched earth on them anyway. Anyone who got out of the company on bad terms got publicly defamed and Nina and Mysta don't wanna catch any of those hands

[Anonymous No.]

>>69279960
That troon never really interacted with her before to know what she's like and is just trying to leech.

[Anonymous No.]

Guys, my family and friends aren't following Doki.
Do they hate her????????

[Anonymous No.]

>>69280250
As much as the catalog may complain and rrat about it, when vsj cancels someone it sticks. So if anything the livers don't want the smoke.

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>>69280301
>Ex members only shit talk Selen
>Except when they don't, in which case they're leeches
I hope Niji is paying you well but judging by that job posting the other day that doesn't seem to be the case lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>69280301
K-keep up the good work sister we didn't lose...

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>>69266354
I think she’s part of the clique. Prove me wrong or shut up.

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>>69280692
I think you're part of the clique. Prove me wrong or shut up.

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>>69267516
Unless you're more thin skinned than someone who was recently flayed, gremlin is not an insult

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>>69280301
I remember this talking point yesterday. You Sisters need to retire it already.

Selen and Yugo had an offcollab together where they had a great time cracking jokes in a hotel bathroom. They've been supportive of each other ever since and are about to collab in one hour. Come hatewatch the stream and see for yourself before requesting that the Sisters remove this point from the "Evidence Yugo hates Doki" list.

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>>69280692
>Makes a claim
>"I don't have to back anything I say up, you need to prove me wrong first!"

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>>69269509

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>>69281283
That’s how it works. The burden of proof is on you.

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>>69281774
Actual brainrot

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>>69270841
>>69270281
>>69270253
In holoEN there's the IRyS clique and the Kiara clique. The Fuwamoco clique is a third force which may exist in the futuro.

In vshojo there's the ironmouse clique and the kson clique.

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>>69273690
anon, you don't get it. everyone is /in/

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>>69280471
They get paid in coupons given to them by a mod from their discord that the doxx site set up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69283334
After they get enough coupons they can be redeemed for a personalized audio of Vox forcing himself on them

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>>69266354
>>69266668
>>69269277
I always knew Nina was a cunt just like the rest of them, this just confirms. They're all so fucking disgusting, man.
Fuck everyone ever involved in that piece of shit dying company who's name isn't Selen, Zaoin or Pomu. Nothing redeemable or salvageable there.

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>>69279871
BASED BASED BASED

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>>69266354
>Keep Talking and Nobody Explodes with Melody
Oh, I should watch this. Melody is fucking retarded, it'll be great.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69279871
Based

[Anonymous No.]

I swear to god, this current gen of NDF has zoomer attention span and ESL, and probably didn't even hear the fucking vod correctly

[Anonymous No.]

so is matara friends with enna and millie? She could prove her innocence by saying she hates clique culture and that was the reason she left on twitter. Who cares if this puts enna and millie in front of a firing squad on twitter.

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>>69267605
how does that work?

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>>69280186
Not surprising considering how many times Mata and Kuro have slipped up lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69283718
>Selen, Zaoin

lmao imaging stanning for absolute zoomer retards. Youve got some white knight complex.

I tried watching selen but as an adult she was just completely offputting, laughing like mentally ill person. And what a surprise she was mentally ill.

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>>69279889
You retards originally said Nina was bullied by the clique; can't even get your story straight.