/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Why did Nyanners avg viewership take a hit the moment she did the bf reveal?
I don't think she ever did GFE or idol and unicorn appeal, but she's below late 2020 averages at this point.
Is it something like less streams in general? If so why do other streamers that take monumental breaks still retain the same viewerships?

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>>69257792
>I don't think she ever did GFE or idol and unicorn appeal
Well anon
Caring about a woman having a BF isn't a idol thing or a unicorn thing, its a human male thing

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>>69257855
Fpbp

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>>69257855
I'll go one further, I wouldn't want a male streamer to talk about his girlfriend or have her on stream either. Keep that shit private.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69257855
This.
Absolute retards constantly denying basic biological facts.

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>>69257792
The problem is that they make videos together, that's why it affects their views.

[Anonymous No.]

No one has ever wanted to buy condoms for another man, regardless of all the posturing by unfuckable femcels and sad losers on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't think you understand anon, if any female streamer reveals that she has a boyfriend will lose fans. Even normie twitch streamers. It doesn't matter what kind of content they make

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>>69257792
natural course of actions
male sees a woman that already has a mate, they will either lose interest or get insanely aggressive

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>>69257792
I don't give a fuck if a streamer has a boyfriend, that's their business not mine. Just keep that shit on the low. When you constantly flirt with them on stream it becomes uncomfortable even for non-unicorns and makes the viewer feel like a third wheel. Females love watching couples interact with each other because it's cute for them, men don't.

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>>69257855
It's not just that she has a BF.
She has a BF and she's not interesting or entertaining

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>>69257792
It doesn't matter if they were gfe or not, it's the boyfriends job to support her financially. not her fans.

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>>69257792
Anyone who watches a woman with a bf is a gigacuck who pays for his condoms and vacations. Women aren’t funny and they aren’t creative. You watch them as a replacement for genuine female social interaction.

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>>69258095
Then how did she get viewers in first place?
Actually, are you saying that a vtuber just needs to have a appeal and thus its fine if a entertaining vtuber has a boyfriend? I'm extrapolating a bit but I'll agree with you on this one.

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>>69257855
/thread

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>>69258171
I know this is 4chan and all but Jesus H, why do you even want to interact with them if this is how you feel? Just watch porn.

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>>69257792
The same reason men don't donate to BFE chuubas. Men are in competition with one another and they don't like paying for another man's lunch.

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>>69257792
Even if she is not GFE who wanna be the 3rd wheel in their dating stream?
Also her bf's model is ugly as hell.

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>>69257792
Because no matter what people say, the main reason people watch VTubers is because they fulfill the niche of "person of the sex I am attracted to who I can interact with without feeling like a third wheel due to another member of my sex having already monopolized them". This doesn't mean anybody thinks they have a chance or even wants to try, but this is genuinely the only way for a lot of people to experience interacting with an "available" attractive individual. Bring your relationship on stream? That experience is gone and people will move on.

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>>69258263
I like how this tourist is either surprised, or is some redditard pretending to be surprised. Either way fuck off.

[Anonymous No.]

Realistically she should have 0 male fans but the westoid is a weird copecuck like that, in their minds they see it as normal that a single woman shares streams with males, or when it's irl they let their girls keep "male friends", you know that guy that they tell these cucks not to worry about? This is all absolutely baffling

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>>69258313
Most people don't really interact with streamers

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>>69258357
Imagine desperately craving interaction with people you consider to be basically subhuman lmao

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>>69258495
Like you with this board?

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>>69257792
The bf isn't really the real issue. The real issue is that all her content became centered around him. It became impossible to watch her and not her bf.

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>>69258390
>they let their girls keep "male friends"
This faggot thinks boyfriends decide what to "let" girlfriends do and he wonders why he's here on 4chan watching vtubers

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>>69257792
She became her boyfriend's accesory and most of their content revolve around being a couple now.

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>>69258263
Femoid, porn activates dopamine receptors in the brain but it does not fulfill the need for social interaction, more specifically the male need for validation from potential female suitors. Vtubers are a way to trick your brain into fulfilling this latent evolutionary desire without interacting with catty whores in the wild. That’s why vtubers lose viewers when they reveal their bf, or why they pander so hard to incels by putting on a cutesy more positive outward front they do in their personal life. It is emotional prostitution.

We are animals, we have animal needs, we are driven by biological processes. Go rub some crystals together you new age scraggly bitch.

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>>69257792
Almost like this phenomenon got nothing to fucking do with all the buzzwords anti-Idol niggers like to peddle huh

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>>69258632
>>69258748
I imagine after she burned her vshojo bridges that she did even more content with him.

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>>69258622
Absolutely BTFO reddit

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>>69257792
>Is it something like less streams in general?
Ignore everyone else. This is the reason.
The time she announced the relationship was also the time she started streaming on his channel, doing the same repetitive Final Fantasy collabs with him. She wasn't putting out any content of her own, which led many of her viewers to drop off.
The problem wasn't having a boyfriend, it was spending all her streaming time with said boyfriend. She could have announced the relationship while doing her usual content and she would've been fine.

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>>69257981
>come to stream to watch gameplay to see if game is worth buying
>Assman1234 starts talking about his sexy fiance
>feel bad because lonely
>he brings her on stream
>she's FAT
>feel good about myself for not being with a FAT

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>>69258850
>emotional prostitution
words of an incredibly mentally healthy individual

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>>69257855
fpbp

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>>69258038
It reminds the viewer they either don't have a gf, or could be doing something better like sexing their gf than watching a fucking stream.

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>>69257855
fpbp

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>>69257792
Why the fuck am I gonna keep watching her and giving her money if she already has a dude. I mean I get still watching but fuck it’s the dudes job to support her financially lmao

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>>69257855
>>69257981
I think RoseDoodle does it pretty well. She clearly has a husband and talks about him, but doesn't center her content around him. He's a periodic accessory to the stream, instead of her becoming his accessory.

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>>69258659
Enjoy cummy pussy and salty kisses anon <3

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>>69257792
Her viewership was a lot higher in the last couple of days because she streamed during euro friendly hours so changing her stream time was part of it.

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>>69257855
I'm not gay or a woman, but I tend to not watch male streamers or video makers who put too much of their girlfriends and wives in their shit. Not because I wanted to have sex with them, but because it's fucking annoying, and they usually don't offer any contribution to the video whatsoever, it's just "I make videos and my dumb wife insists on being involved in them for some reason". And I think the same concept applies here much of the time.

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>>69257981
I watch a streamer who can have his wife on stream and it's fine. But she's in a sweet spot of actually funny and attractive but so genuinely insane that you're not jealous.

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>>69259019
My eyes are wide open, you live in darkness

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>>69258850
I hope you get the help you need anon. Everyone should feel loved

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>>69259277
Your mother left you as a child, and you've never been able to recover emotionally from it.

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>>69257792
>Why did Nyanners avg viewership take a hit the moment she did the bf reveal?
because she took a month long break at the same time

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>>69259277
t. Walter White

[Anonymous No.]

Nyanners is also a /hag/
I dont mean it in a negative way
but fame fades, I saw people in her chat upset she played rap music but they’re so young they don’t know she got popular from rap covers and this too >>69258931

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>>69257792
Any content creator revealing that they have a significant other will lose some of their audience. The real problem is when that significant other becomes a significant part of their content. The whole presentation changes. There's a big difference from content creator playing a game vs a couple playing a game. Furthermore, how much of the original audience is there to watch couple's dating content? This isn't even an idol/unicorn thing, it's more of a voyeur thing. There's also a portion of the audience that have watched their favorite creators get in a relationship and have messy breakups. If someone is dating, I don't care. Don't make it your content, especially when there is a real risk of breakup. I'd like to say having your married partner on stream is okay, but we've seen creators cheat on their partners even with kids on the way, so you're mileage will vary.

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>>69259209
Reminds me of the thread last night about nerissa having a different family member on every fucking stream it feels like
Like fuck off I'm not here to watch your sister, she's free to become a vtuber if she wants to and people can fuck off and watch her on her own time
And then you have all the normalfags in the chat making the same "HAHA IS [person that is not the streamer] SINGLE XD" 'joke' ad nauseum so the commentary just becomes constant "dohoho chat you silly billies I can't believe you prefer [relative] to me haha" for an hour

[Anonymous No.]

>>69259019
>Get one companionship need filled
>For money
Yeah no it's closer to emotional prostitution

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>>69258931
>Ignore everything else

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>>69257792
I watched her a lot back then. While she didn't do traditional GFE content her streams were pretty unicorn friendly until Aethel happened and her early VR exploration streams were crazy good, some of them felt like unironic dates.
Also pic related was her best model.

[Anonymous No.]

>content took a nosedive
>mentions aethel mulitple times a stream
>stops streaming if aethel is going to stream
>a good portion of her streams are now collabs with him

It's obvious she now streams because she has to, not because she wants to. If aethel made enough money to support both of them she would stop streaming.

>>69258006
he's talked about how he only goes in raw hasn't used a condom in years.

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>>69259679
>paying for vtubers
Simping for a cartoon character isn't going to bring mommy back however many years it was ago that she walked out on you.

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>>69257792
She should marry, then it'd become a buff like for Giri

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>>69257792
it's just gay and cucked to support a woman that has a partner

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>>69257792
Almost like her bf reveal correlates with something else and similar trends in all online media.

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>>69259831
Completely agree about that model being her best at the moment.

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>>69257792
less so the BF reveal and more that she stopped streaming on her own channel a lot, even vei still had noombers when her and soda got together, her problem was entirely that she also stopped streaming and streaming is unforgiving in that way. unless you make a big thing about "returning back to streaming!" then niggas will just forget you exist

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>>69259907
Holy projectchama

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>>69259643
Not a wrong sentiment, but you need to take that stick out of your ass. Her sister doesn't overstay her welcome, and every time she's on stream it's a blast, they compliment each other, they synergize and harmonize, it's good.
Yes, chat is profoundly retarded. Yes, it would be a different story if she brought her on every stream. But how it's done right now is all in good fun, part of Nerissa experience. I love it, you're free to hate it.

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>>69257855
Wrong it's not a human male thing
It's just a human thing

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>>69257792
https://streamscharts.com/channels/nyanners

her average viewership has gone down for a while now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69260190
He typed through sheets of tears

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>>69257792
I wouldn't watch her in particular anyway, but as someone in the CGDCT camp, I don't want to know about that shit.
I don't care if you have a family behind the scenes, I want the character you play to be clean.
If I find out you have a bf/husband because I looked up doxx, that's on me and I won't hold it against you.
But I won't watch a stream just to have some cunt tell me about what kamasutra positions she likes to get her back blown out in.

[Anonymous No.]

I only watch single male/female streamers

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>>69257792
Just like everyone else that left Vshojo she lost viewers.
Anons here are still sleeping on it but they had more brand power than anybody would have guessed.

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>>69260615
i think this is true but its also just a fact that the 3 that left simply stopped streaming as much, vei's been busy with family matters, nyans got a boyfriend and silvervale streamed only 5 times in the entirety of january, stopped and then did an outfit reveal yesterday that barely got 2.5k viewers. I think if they stayed consistent they'd be much better off but eh.

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>>69260615
This kek
People on this board don't want to admit that Vshojo is a strong corpo brand but almost everyone entering it has gained viewers while everyone leaving it has lost them.
With a few exceptions involving the JP side which has been completely neglected.

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>>69257792
The boyfriend reveal costed her some viewers but so did her many other changes. She streams a lot less, quit VShojo, started doing fleshtubing regularly and her new outfits aren't as good as he old ones. And her being happy and married means less creative energy is spent on weird online content.

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>>69257981
it oddly works with Soda and Vei where it hasnt killed his stream numbers because I guess his fans think shes "good" for him (because hes also a piece of shit) but I think Asmongold has mentioned his fans schizoing out on him when he had a gf in the past because they couldnt identify with him anymore

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>>69258931
It's what this anon said. She announced it publicly, and lots of people had already assumed it was a thing by that point. That would've been fine, but afterwards pretty much all of her content revolved around him outside of the stuff she did with VShojo. Then she left VShojo, and now she's had basically no contact with anyone else in the vtubing sphere outside of Aethel since then. I'm glad they're happy together but I got into Nyan because of solo stuff or collabs with like Mouse, Vei, Snuffy, and the occasional random indie. Nyan + Aethel are funny together, but there's pretty much nobody else in her streaming career now.

Same thing happened with Vei and Soda.

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>>69260240
>>69260796
yeah. it's a mix of reasons. not just the boyfriend

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>>69257855
BASED AND TRUE

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>>69258171
Most women have boyfriends bruh, you are paying for it either way.

[Anonymous No.]

have not followed them so i ask.
how have the three that left vshojo been doing viewer wise?

[Anonymous No.]

This is a problem with any kind of content creator. The only way around it is to get big AFTER the creator is publicly in a relationship. Luchajin, Limealicious, there are plenty of examples. The only way around this is if your content is akin to trashy reality tv like a bunch of streamer groups (OTV, OTK, etc).
>>69258171
I get what you're saying, but Nyanners is unironically the only woman ANYWHERE (vtuber, celebrity or otherwise) that has made me laugh. Aethel actually enhances that somehow.

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>>69260813
I think the asmongoy tards are bitching because he's clearly a paypig cuck to an asian hooker, which speaks miles about themselves far more than it does about him

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>>69260767
>With a few exceptions involving the JP side which has been completely neglected.
The only ones who lost viewers compared to what they achieved prior were the ex holos.
And it makes sense this would happen because Holo is the king when it comes to brand power, especially in japan.

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>>69258390
NTR is literally the top fetish in Japan.

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>>69261103
Consider rope

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>>69258185
>how did she get viewers in first place
By voicing /a/ memes on youtube?
That's like asking how Senzawa got a following.

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>>69261086
fallen off a cliff mostly compared to where they were

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>>69258313
That doesn't explain vtubers with big audiences of the same gender that aren't gay.

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>>69259643
It seems she is having a hard time getting her own gimmicks and personality within HoloEN. The family clearly helps with clips and such since that's all I get recommended from her.

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>>69261515
Such as?

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>>69260813
>hes also a piece of shit
hes a saint compared to her

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>>69261046
Even if they don't have boyfriends, "single" women these days are still fucking randos, you're just paying for their dates with multiple guys instead of one

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>>69261127
im not talking about the asian prostitute hes fucking now i think this was the blonde camwhore with giant fake tits years ago

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>>69260813
Vei appeals to a more cum-filled part of the brain so it doesn't matter as much.

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>>69257792
If you think that's funny check out Silver's outfit debut and she's GFE

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>>69261608
Enna has a large female viewership

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>>69261608
Randon, HeavenlyFather, Uwuslab, a bunch on the Japanese side like Kuzuha. No idea of Kenji's demographics, but I could see him being 60/40 male.

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>>69257792
>Content changes, people leave
I don't know, anon. It's a mystery.

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>>69261922
Dead after leaving. rumao.

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>>69261645
I'm not surprised Discord grooming stuff is becoming more of a thing. I'm not saying I approve of it, but it seems hard to find a girl that's not fucking around.

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>>69257792
I faced a similar conundrum some months ago when I realized I stopped regularly watching Nyanners when her and Aethelstan went public, because I saw her as a "brotuber" more than anything. One anon made a point that nailed it well: when streamers that have SOs (regardless of the gender of either) start talking or streaming with them, it kinda feels like you're a third wheel. Really takes you out of it.

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>>69261515
I would love to see gender ratios for popular VTubers and streamers in general. I am pretty sure men have a more mixed audience, while women probably only got more women of they specifically appeal to female fans.

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>>69261922
>male collaber
>gfe
Nah

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>>69257792
I realize this sounds like a lie when said about anyone but pink cat never seemed to care much about the money, which translates to not caring that much about view numbers
if you're not trying to get views then it seems natural for them to recline, at least after the covid bubble/vshojo buff

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>>69261922
Outfit reveals and events need marketing of some kind. I saw Vei doing crazy numbers on Twitter so I assume she will hit it big once she returns.

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>>69261922
Fucking christ I thought since vshojo lets everyone keep their ip would make it's brand not as valuable but wow literally all the ex-members fell off hard

[Anonymous No.]

i stopped watching her regularly because she stopped being CREATIVIDAD
but once in a while she still does something cool
and aethel is so fucking dumb i can't stand listening to him

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>>69262288
wait does mythic not even bother to advertise its own talent? What a scam

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>>69261922
I don't really care about the overall discussion here, but Silver has a new outfit every week so I'm not surprised about this. She technically did advertise it on Twitter before revealing it.

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>>69257855
fpbp

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>>69262428
Most companies aren't as blatant with their marketing as idol and phase tho. Somehow I have seen ads for those despite using ublock.

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>>69258185
>its fine if a entertaining vtuber has a boyfriend?
wrong retard
also being entertaining isn't the highest quality a vtuber can possess, because vtubers aren't entertainers
their highest quality is making their audience happy and women with bfs can't make men other than their bf happy as a rule

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>>69262514
So do mouse and zen and they still hit 5view numbers

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>>69257792
She doesn't feel like a vtuber anymore, just look at her channel she only gets views when she does IRL stuff with her BF

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>>69257792
>used to be such a numberfag she was worried about playing RPGs on stream because "they're bad for numbers"
>massive twitter wokescold in the era where that was still trendy and par the course in the western vtuber sphere
>collabed frequently with vshojo girls and orbitors, even had an orisong and a concert with Kizuna AI at one point
>frequently hateposted about on /vt/
>nux drama happens
>starts cancelling her streams with flimsy excuses, starts appearing on his streams instead
>/vshojo/ nyanfags notice something is up, start bitching
>bf reveal
>fairly muted reaction from her fans because of the reasons you posted, and also because whining about it in a direct way within that fanbase will get you dunked on as an incel/unicorn/parasocial fuck
>leaves vshojo shortly after on fairly bad terms due to "contract issues" but it's also clearly linked to other things (harry potter drama)
>joins mythic, her picture is right next to nux on their roster page
>ironmouse, who used to be on-screen besties with her, makes a remark about her, implying the relationship between her and vshojo is pretty much over
>stops streaming regularly, doesn't seem to collab with anyone notable or have any notable projects
>completely unpushed and unpromoted by mythic, because they don't do that
>barely even mentioned on /vt/ nowadays
>vshojo goes from strength to strength despite having issues here to there, even reforming their image somewhat both to the /vt/ crowd mad about them being the twitch thot company and the twitter crowd who were mad about the harry potter crap, and keep promoting and pushing themselves
>get a couple of ex-nijis who go viral talking about how much better it is than nijien
>projectmelody, who joined in on the nux dogpiling, ends up working with him again anyway, nobody cares
The BF thing is certainly a factor but there's a lot more going on. Basically, she politicked her way into irrelevence on several fronts.

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>>69262514
Being part of a big group helps more I think. Whenever a girl in Hololive has an outfit reveal coming she and other girls will mention it constantly on streams, it will be on her schedule and people online will talk about it.

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>>69259109
and that's why rosedoodle is an eternal 3view too despite having all what it takes to be 4 view streamer.
she got the look, the design, the energy, the knowledge. she's cracked in VR stuff and got skills in acting too.
yet that's the forbidden fruit in vtubing. If you fail to sell a dream or a character you're just Stacy streamer with an avatar.
and that's ok with both.

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>>69262428
I think they help out with contacts and merch stuff but that's pretty much it, they leave everything else up to the talents. Probably seemed like a far better contract than vshojo if you're completely up your own ass and assume you can keep and grow your fanbase no matter what.

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>>69261974
>>69261948
Ok so there's a couple dozen out of thousands of vtubers (since we're counting 3views). Clearly these people are the exception (and a lot of them would be successful as normal streamers too).

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>>69262780
Yeah it's this pretty much
and if you look at the dates it's right after she left Vshojo and the worst part is she decided to side with Vei and Silver

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>>69259854
Is she fucking pregnant yet or is he shooting blanks?

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>>69262780
>>starts cancelling her streams with flimsy excuses, starts appearing on his streams instead
I meant about her bf specifically, realize that was unclear after the nux stuff

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>>69257792
Men aren't going to support a woman who has a bf. Your donations are literally condom and birth control money. Most people know most chuubas are taken but they don't want to see it being dangled in front their faces. Ignorance is bliss, nigger

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>>69262780
I don't think she left on bad terms. She also still collabs with Mouse. I also don't remember her doing any noise about the Harry Potter nonsense.

I do think that the Nux drama played a part in her and Vei getting less friendly with Melody tho.

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>>69262810
Vshojo doesn't do that
For example Ironmouse has a concert in 2 weeks
None of the other girls have brought it up on stream and only like 2 of them retweeted the concert announcement

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>>69262959
>"the word "trap" is a slur and not welcome in my spaces"
>leaves over the harry potter drama
Quite funny. Once a hypcrite, always a hypocrite.

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>>69262188
I think that's also a result of streaming in general being a more male-dominated "hobby"

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>>69263069
She did only once and it was an awkward af collab
If Aethel her boyfriend wasn't there it would have been even worse

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>>69263071
People on the general thread do talk about new outfits and such. I remember hearing quite a bit about their last 3D concert despite not even following the company all that much.

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>>69257981
Funny enough that's what happened with forsen after he murdered nina. She just straight up disappeared and forsen doesn't talk about her at all

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>>69262780
It's almost like Asmongay is trying to ruin everyone in mythic so they become dependent on him and his cock. Indentured harem strat go!

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>>69263148
She is extremely anxious and probably has an irrational idea that she somehow betrayed her friend.

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>>69263054
What about Mouse? She's constantly shipbaiting with Connor and she always has high numbers

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>>69263264
I barely know anything about him but he just comes across as the kind of egotistical unwashed retard that gets high by huffing his own farts constantly, I'm sure in the back of his mind he could give less of a fuck about what happens to the vtubers in mythic as long as he gets his merch cut or whatever

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>>69263291
Her fans are all a bunch of brownfeets like the Ennacuck faunaschizo.

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>>69263085
>Sees people whining about harry potter are losing
>Goes with the other side
I'm sure it looked like a good decision for someone who has no morals and only wants to win.

[Anonymous No.]

the best part about nyanners getting a boyfriend is that I now watch her boyfriend way more than her, he's actually far more entertaining.

[Anonymous No.]

Nyanners is part of these retarded millenial /zoomer white girls that are contrarian by nature and ironic about things they like.
She loathed being what she liked just like Juniper or Girl dm but contrary to these two nyan had the opportunity at one point in time to be the biggest vtuber in the west.
She could have been the face of vtubing but chose her personal life instead. and now she's just being meta about vtubing.
I respect her body of work and her og status but that's basically it. she's just stuck in the realm coulda shoulda woulda.

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>>69263664
ironically he was a 2view discovered by mouse

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>>69263291
Uh oh they're not gonna like this reality check

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>>69257792
>Why did Nyanners avg viewership take a hit the moment she did the bf reveal?
Didnt she also stop streaming regularly at that time to spend more time bouncing on his cock?

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>>69263664
He hangs around way too often with some of the cancer twitch crowd for my liking, but his solo stuff is usually pretty solid yeah

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>>69263085
The first- is a quote from a discord mod and the second- she never gave a shit about harry potter any day of her life. Her contract ended, she took a better offer elsewhere.

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>>69257855
fippybippy

[Anonymous No.]

I used to watch nyanners a lot, at her peak she was great, really creative, really funny, hard working, cute, and ambitious
then it all took a nosedive when the boyfriend reveal happened
on that stream she said "my boyfriend will not affect or change my content", and I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but she immediately went on a month-long hiatus to move in with him, and then talked about him at length literally every stream, then basically became the sidekick to her boyfriends' streams, so I dropped her entirely
I guess she's happier but it's still a shame that she ended up sabotaging her career like that
vei ironically handled the boyfriend thing better by keeping him out of her own streams

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>>69263387
Ah, so like Moistcritikal.

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>>69264327
yeah pretty much the same for me. her streams were so fun and no one else at the time really seemed to offer that. like you said, my issue was her getting a boyfriend, but how much it changed her and her content
I do still tune into her stream occasionally, and enjoy her streams with aethel, but it's just not the same as it used to be. I might even watch aethel more nowadays

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Everyone kn here is wrong she lost veiwers to her bf. People noticed that hes actually entertaining and never went back to pink cat. I think most people actually hate her because hes honestly out of her league and should be with someone better.

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>>69262945
If you want to go down that route, the successful vtubers in the first place are the outliers. Besides, some of the ones listed WERE normal streamers that only got big after becoming vtubers.
And it's definitely more than a dozen in Japan where all kinds of content are represented under vtubing and not just bf/gf stuff.

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Serious answer and not just "She got a boyfriend duh?" comment

She changed time window, she used to start early hours meaning she attracted all the euros at first and then the Americans, so the stream always gained viewers unlike now that she starts late and all euros go to sleep.

She had some hit and miss models (the witch model, many abandoned 3d models)

Stopped doing the stuff she was good at (karaoke, skits and stuff, I don't even remember the last time I saw her sing). Now every good idea they have is streamed on Aethels channel

Stream way less and all the good days for viewership like Sundays are Aethels days

Obviously leaving Vshojo was a massive hit, so many people watch just because she was from their favorite corpa

Pink love died, I bet if these two were friends again she would gained some viewers back

But I think she is the happiest she's ever been even If her streams are like this, I don't think she cares about more money (she has tons) or she has streamer ego, she used to stream on an alt to way less people because her regular streams stressed her out

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>>69264563
I think it's cool that you're gay now

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>>69263127
Honestly it feels like literally everything online is male-dominated. Not even just streaming.

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>>69264563
Settle down Yuzu

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>>69258086
Females are drawn to men in relationships because he has been stamped with another girl's seal of approval.

[Anonymous No.]

>tfw no vtuber gf to fuck while she is live and trying to hold her composure

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>>69265389
The biggest selling product categories for online shops are marketed for women. There's a huge online industry centered on selling to women and they dominate large sectors of the consumer product market. You don't probably see it because it doesn't target you.

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>>69265725
Yeah, I guess I should've been more specific. It seems all online hobbies/hobby spaces are male-dominated.

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>>69257792
She started streaming less and at different times and collabing with him frequently in place of her old frequent collab partners (such as the vshojo girls), her solo content in general also changed somewhat.

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>>69257792
More like her viewership tanked immediately after her face reveal. Nobody watches vtubers for their real life faces, now do they. I can't wait for kuro to take that hit as well. The mystique and personality, all gone because you decided to show your 28+ year old White woman/chubby male SEA face.

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>>69265830
Ehh...still a bit inaccurate. Women are just as terminally online as men and they have their own fandoms and interests. I think things only seem that way to you because of how hobbies are often segregated.

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>>69266132
Giri did a face reveal and her streams are doing better than ever

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>>69266132
Nah, nobody on twitch gives a shit about that. See 50% of indies.

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>>69266132
True. I don't care how attractive they are, doing a face reveal ruins the immersion. Fucking wish vtubers would stop doing this

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>>69266157
It's just hard for me to believe that every single hobby of mine just so happens to be male-dominated because I'm male and therefore predisposed to like it. Most of them, sure. But every single one?
Can you give me a few examples of female-dominated online hobbies?
Also, I don't really understand how fandoms count as "hobbies". Like... how do you engage with a fandom as a hobby? What is the activity that you do? I don't get it.

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>>69257792
She changed her content because of him. I don't think it's intentional, but it's little things that add up. Like her being embarrassed to sing around him and thus never doing karaoke. Or that she knows he watches her streams, so she's scared to talk about weird shit from her childhood. She's also less vulnerable, which as fuck up as it is to say, makes me fell less obligated to watch her. Still enjoy her stuff, but it is what it is.

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>>69263939
Ok but is he still a mod?

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>>69266266
That's because Giri is fucking hot

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>>69266610
BTW I have the same feelings about Mouse really. And I think she's obviously involved with someone now. I think it says a lot about how dense some viewers are that they don't pick up on how neutered Mouse's streams are now, just because she hasn't admitted it. Lesson is never admit it and you can be blatant.

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Has there ever been a case where an even somewhat popular content creator has revealed an SO while maintaining the same content that made them popular in the first place? Especially within vtubing? The big mistake these people make is that what was once, for example, “Minecraft with my friends!” becomes “Minecraft with my SO, oh and these guys too I guess” or even just “Minecraft with my SO!”. Yes, adding an individual into your content that wasn’t there before or was there but at a much lower frequency is a DRASTIC change to your content.

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>>69266452
well get used to it besides the corpo chubas
more and more indies are doing face reveal at least the non fat ones

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>>69259019
Emotional prostitution as a term has been around since ar 400 BCE, you absolute mongrel.
Apollonnius spoke of the Hetairae of some place I forget (practically the prototype for vtubers), and how they capture mens' hearts with their story-telling, music-playing, singing, gentle service of foods and wine, with men succumbing to the illusion with finesse that could make Orpheus jealous, picturing fulfilling lives together in wine-induced stupor. He spent an entire paragraph differentiating from Pornai (prostitutes), but also mentioned their similarities.

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>>69266610
I think the worst issue is that whenever her or her BF have a great idea for a stream they do it on his channel

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>>69266605
>Can you give me a few examples of female-dominated online hobbies?
True crime, relationship reddits, pop music in general, celeb news, farming games, animal crossing, BDSM meetups, YA fiction. In my case there are a lot that are 50/50. I think the issue might also be that you use 4chan to discuss said hobbies, which is absoloutely a male-dominated website. Twitter is much more 50/50, what's left of tumblr might actually be about 65/35 in favor of women.

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I've consistently hated her even when she was attentionwhoring in /a/.
I enjoy her decline.

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>>69257792
Didn't someone walk into Nyanners getting trains ran on her by 5 guys?

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>>69267202
Ugh. Why do women have such lame hobbies? I don't wanna force myself to do shit I don't enjoy just to get a GF.

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>>69267332
That's where the 50/50 stuff comes in. I'm a literature grad, I like art, movies, music, literature. Plenty of women have similar tastes there. Hell, some even like some of the videogames and anime/manga I like. I don't tell them I'm into vtubers or pro wrestling or hentai or that I hang out here.

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>>69259593
why does this comment appear as a response but it doesn't link to the comment it's mentioning?

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>>69267497
I like art too, but my problem is that I feel like even if a got a GF through that hobby, I wouldn't enjoy spending time with her unless she shared my other hobbies too. So it'd be pointless.
The older I get, the more I'm starting to realize that maybe I just... don't like women. I just don't have anything in common with them.

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>>69267259
She really hasn't declined. She still has a massive channel and can afford living in LA. Soon she'll be preggo too.
If anything Nyanners won. She went from lonely loli autist to rich streamer to mother.

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>>69257792
YOU COULD HAVE BOTHERED TO MENTION THE DATE OF THE BOYFRIEND REVEAL SO WE CAN COMPARE AGAINST THE GRAPH THANKS

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>>69266983
Mouse got more clean when she got popular and her family started watching her streams

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>>69267724
I kinda like having my own seperate braindead private hobbies I can talk about on 4chan with the lads and my shared more cultural / intellectual hobbies I can share with people irl. I guess that's why so many dudes are into sport.

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>>69267918
Yeah, maybe I just need to come to terms with the fact that if I ever get a GF, she can't be my best friend too, and I'll have to sort of compartmentalize her into my life, and get my other needs met by other people, mostly male friends.

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>>69267918
Weird, for me it's always been the exact opposite. The only honest intellectual discussion I've ever gotten has been through anonymity, a lot of it on 4chan. In person I mostly discuss benign things.

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>>69267789
yeah this is the reason and not that a certain man told her she was better than acting like a whore

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>>69257855
fpbp

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>>69268357
You must be retarded. Mouse is not going to carry on a relationship until she is somewhat normal again in terms of her health. She takes influence from Conner but not because he's dicking her down, and nor is anyone else

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>>69257792
Turns out it’s not an “idol culture” thing, this is just common for female streamers and attempts to claim otherwise are just to smear anything related to Japanese media.

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>>69268514
lol I can't believe mousefags.

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>>69268702
How are they going to meet up and fuck. Doesn't Conner live in Japan

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>>69268702
Yes thank you for confirming you are retarded

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>>69268514
If the rumors about how bad her health actually is turn out to be true, you could unironically kill her by dicking her down

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Pink cat good.

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>>69257855
Dont sisters also hate married men?

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>>69268357
Are you implying this was Connor? I don't watch him or mouse, but I find that funny given he associated with a Japanese pornstar who did it just because she was bored of her job and she had huge tits. I bet he fucked the JAVthot too.
>Verification not required

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>>69257792
why do you think idol agencies have the bf rules in the first place? its because guys don't like women who are getting fucked by other men. even fucking dodger on youtube from years back would go out of her way to hide her relationship status in vlogs (not every well) because she knew it would hurt her numbers.
The only girl who I can think of who didn't do that shit was the one from the yogscast and that was only because people liked lewis more than they liked her

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Cause she straight up abandoned her cat when it turned out this dudes immune system loses to fucking cats.

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>>69257981
>or have her on stream either
nothing worse than a guy dragging his unfunny uninteresting gf into his videos.

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I'm a woman viewer of Nyanners and she legitimately stopped making as much content/as much solo content or tete with other girls. I really liked her persona and she also almost completely dropped the voice and inside jokes. She has bits now, but they're heavily based on Aethel's humor and he's not always for me.

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Because no one wants to be the fucking cuck in the corner.

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>>69267732
She has decline, but she was already talking about quitting before Aethel and if anything, he prolonged her streaming. She has already said she made enough to quit. She was raking in covid vtuber numbers while living in a ghetto and having an indie merch split. She was the face of VShojo until Mouse's subathon. She was earning a lot of money while spending little.

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>>69260813
No one cares because she is a bitch anyway. Those face reveal pics are hilariously filtered as well.

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>>69271142
>I'm a woman viewer of Nyanners
I know you're probably a tranny but why?
I watch girls being cute becuase I, a heterosexual male like seeing cute girls. I have no idea why women would watch women instead of men. If you're lesbian there are other lesbians you could watch for that feeling.
Meanwhile men can't be cute so I don't watch male vtubers.

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>>69257792
>I don't think she ever did GFE or idol and unicorn appeal

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>>69271487
NTA, but Nyan larped as a lesbian.

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>>69261515
pretty much all the EN girls who have mentioned their demographics say that their % female viewers are like mid to low teens at fucking best. most are in the single digits
>>69261974
anyone who watches randon is a massive fucking faggot

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>>69268702
>pictured: the axis of evil

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Aethel on stream drooling over a potential OTK nepo hire through Dicktone. My man, you brainwashed your gf to leave a corpo just for you to get into one?

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>>69257792
I don't watch vtubers for GFE content, so I don't give a shit if a woman collabs with a man as long as the stream is interesting, but the second I hear they have a BF, I leave because from then on, it's her man's duty to support her. That's the reason why I also don't watch a lot of holos who, despite being "anti-homo" aka "pure", have all the info stacked against them being single.

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>>69272867
>drooling over a potential OTK nepo hire through Dicktone
I dont know who either of these are, could you explain?

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>>69257792
There's a lot of contributing factors, but even Vei has outright stated that revealing you have a boyfriend is bad for business.
https://streamable.com/o8aomg

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>>69257855
fpbp

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>>69273427
I don't believe single girls exist on this planet. Prove me wrong. You can't.

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>>69273254
OTK is one of the biggest flesh streamer groups. Aethel is friends with Tectone who keeps begging to add a VTuber. I wasn't watching the stream so IDK if Aethel was actually interested. Also I feel like a girl would cuck him out of it. They're aware Male Vtubers aren't popular. Tectone is also a creep that would want a big titty chuuba to force himself on.

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>>69273427
I fucking hate the way Vei talks
the weird fucking inflection she does, it's like a worse version of the valo accent

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>>69260615
Plus Nyan is happier being a mid4view and hitting 5view for "event" streams. I've mentioned this before here but maintaining 5view status and being a babysitter streamer is a fate worse than death i.e. gura. So, "falling off" is fine and the content she does with Aethal is fun and entertaining. I do miss her doing stuff with Mouse more consistently though, sadge. She is helping boost some up and coming 4views /lig/folks though: Tob, Hina, Meat, Coqui, etc.

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>>69257855
Does that mean that vtubers wouldn't exist if there were no men who can't find a girlfriend?

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>>69257855
BASED

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I hate this traitor

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>>69268702
mouse is horrifically ill right now from the thirty seconds her mother was in her room putting ash on her forehead for ash wednesday. sex would literally kill her

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>>69270992
Came here to post this. Can't count how many YTers content went to shit because they kept crowbaring their charisma void gf into everything. Also part of why RT started sucking even before 2020 with all the office relationships

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>>69259277
Take your meds

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqDbb7-dn9A

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>>69257792
wow it's almost as if it's not just unicorns that don't like to listen to a girl flirt with a guy.

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>>69266983
>>69268357
>yeah this is the reason and not that a certain man told her she was better than acting like a whore
It's not just Connor, she started making more normal friends and getting confident and interacting with more people outside of that small shitty anituber and lewdtuber bubble she used to exist in anon. And there were moments like when she joined the OTV Rust server where she was talking about her character's dick to a more normie streamer and kind of traumatized herself with how perverse and cringe she came across as.. And then there was other shit that happened like having some bad experiences with people creeping on her and some stuff with a stalker a year or two ago that she hasn't talked about much that probably contributed to her wanting to act less like her audience's horny waifu.
Also as the other anon said her family does watch her now, her older sister in particular lurks her streams and called her mom to check on her yesterday midstream because she sounded like shit.

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>>69271487
nta but female, not gay, not trans, that watches female vtubers
vtubers are like any other form of online video entertainment for me, I get the same level of romantic/sexual/emotional attachment watching them that I get from watching wendigoon or tom scott. I like looking at cute anime girls but it's the same feeling as watching cute animals, the visual appeal is just visual and nothing more. people like you are batshit insane to me and this is 100% me being real, human to human advice, you will never get a real life human woman to have a relationship with if you don't learn to see female entertainers the same way you see male ones. if you don't want to have a relationship in the future that's totally fine (I don't) but women who realize your mindset will be out the door the second you turn away because seeing women as that different from you gives rapist vibes

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>>69271487
I'm a cis woman! To be vulnerable, it reminds me of what it's like to be friends with girls. People grow apart, it's hard to retain friendships when people have to work 24/7, and I very much have a best friend in my husband and didn't feel a need to put effort into keeping friendships with girls IRL after getting married when most of them just wanted to party and hookup on the weekends.

Vtubers being cute with one another simulates that experience without the negatives that being friends with real girls brings me.

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>>69257792
You know that thing that Mumei says, she isn't into romance type games or fiction?
Yeah well that also applies to me, I don't like streamers that associate themselves with romance

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>>69257792
I had no idea she was still around.

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>>69278181
There was a time where VShojo was super cringe and leaned hard into the coomer shit. Like really leaned hard into it. I think they are getting better as a whole. Zen is still absolutely sex, and IM is still a gremlin gooner, but I feel like the real degens have left and they can just joke around and have fun without talking about sex sex sex every second.

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>>69257981
Pat works pretty well with Paige

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>>69257792
She didn't go GFE but she gay baited a little bit.
>story of her watching porn with a girlfriend
>flirted with Layna

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>>69257792
Her boyfriend is funnier than her so I started watching him instead.
It's a doggy dog world.

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>>69257981
It really depends. I don't particularly care if the boys from OneyPlays have gfs(they all do), I'm just there to hang out with the bros and watch them play retarded games.
If they start bringing their girls into their playthroughs, that's when I'm out.

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>>69267106
>BAHAHA THIS ANCIENT GUY ALSO HAD HIS MOM LEAVE HIM THIS MEANS I WIN SOMEHOW

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>>69258171
>Women aren’t funny and they aren’t creative.
must suck to have a boring oshi. mine is incredibly funny, hard-working, and creative.

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>>69257792
I stopped watching Nyanners when she backpedaled from the loli shit.

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>>69257855
false
men and women can be friends

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>>69276110
The biggest vtuber simp I personally know is in a long term relationship. He messages me dox shit without asking. I think his bad relationship with his girlfriend that he's comfortably stuck in has made me yearn harder for 2.5D women than my single ass ever could.

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>>69285471
If they are not attractive at all to each other and both are in relationships then yes.

In every other situation -which is the vast majority of situations- no, man and woman can not be friends once puberty starts.
This is just a fact of life. It's not a bad thing.

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>>69257855
FPBP. I think most unicorn arguments are retarded, but even I agree with this. The appeal of CGDCT is much more elaborate than mere sexual availability, which is not incidentally the part that most retaedeed anti-unicorn arguments fail to grasp.

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>>69288935 (Me)
>retaedeed
I guess I'm the retaed now.

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>>69289122
le retard d'anon...

[Anonymous No.]

genuinely, i realised aethel was retarded and then by extension that she was just as retarded as him.

listening to him say crazy out of pocket shit and then seeing her nodding along was enough to lose interest

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>>69257792
Riajuu explode

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>>69289425
>she was just as retarded as him
I don't know anything about him, but I actually don't think her problem is that she's dumb. She's probably also not inherently a hypocrite, sociopath, backstabber, etc, either. I suspect that she is, first and foremost, a follower.

All of her inconsistent opinions and decisions in the last 10+ years make sense when put through that lens, and considering the people around her at the time of each. I don't know why that would be the case for her (more than other women, anyway), but it's usually something like deep fear of disapproval, being an outsider, or even just loneliness. All healthy to a degree, but self-destructive after a point.

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>>69264327
>and then talked about him at length literally every stream
Why do they do this?

Is it to 'own le haters' that would say if you talk about males on stream you'll lose viewers?

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>>69271142
>woman gets a boyfriend
>she then just adopts his personality and interests

Women, genuine question, why?

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>>69258095
Which is often the result of having a BF, because she doesn’t need the validation from streaming.

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>>69273427
If you're doing GFE content, I think there is a moral problem when you actively omit you have a partner.

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>>69292180
men do the same thing, unironically. Every man I know that's married or in a long-term relationship ends up with a slightly altered personality. It's usually never extreme, just new words entered their lexicon and way have slightly different ways of speaking.
When you're in close proximity with anyone for an extended period of time, you start to subconsciously sound/act a bit more like them, and vice/versa

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>>69261580
Yeah, my take on it is that she wanted a career in music/performance and due to just being alive at this period in time, idol vtubing offers those opportunities where it is sparse in traditional media industries.

I think she has a lot of raw potential as a personality. Most people that give her a chance find her charming. That said, the consistency of her performance as a streaming personality is still very inconsistent.

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>>69283652
Name em

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>>69257855
The most based comment of all time. Normies and shills forever BTFO.

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>>69291936
Just part of the female mind. Talking about your bf/husband at length is humblebragging that you're desirable and capable of landing a worthy man.

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>>69293444
I agree with you, you can't possibly spend lots of time around people you like without adopting parts of their mannerisms but the phenomenon of literally just skinwalking your partner is a specifically female thing.

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>>69294600
Is it also the idea that 'I'm so desirable that I can speak about my boyfriend on stream but guys will still show up and shower me in praise and gifts'?

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>>69257792
Similar to real life. Couples tend to group with other couples, while singles hang out with other singles.

Honestly, other than the real old content, never watched her streams. When heard she was anti-loli that became a huge deterrent. Doesn't have to be lewd; Gura has a huge fembud fanbase.

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>>69295595
Maybe, but I think women lack a general sense of respect for other people. The thoughts and feelings of their fans just disappears from their minds.

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>>69295118
I'll just take your word for it since the only women I know are the wives/gfs of my friends and my mom.

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>>69257855
The post that destroyed /vt/

[Anonymous No.]

Even if a man says he is your friend, he doesn't actually mean it, his brain won't allow him to think about you that way. He literally just does not have the capacity to do it, you can't trust him about this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69257792
dogshit vtuber, always was

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>>69259643
>>69260198
Not op, but we're getting to the point where we aren't just hit over the head with her family, but getting hit over the head with her family talking about THEIR relationships which are literally 3 degrees away in terms of relation to the viewers. Like why do I need to hear about nerissa's sister's husband.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69261127
>>69261764
Didn't that woman already drop him after she sucked some viewers out of him.

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>>69258931
Anon the hours streamed graph counteracts that argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69257792
aethel short term hurt numbers, pcg and indie vtuber boom took out the rest. She isn't unique anymore.

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>>69257792
>Why did Nyanners avg viewership take a hit the moment she did the bf reveal?

vtubing is a niche mostly consumed by incels, only a fool would deny that.

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>>69257792
Her streams were already boring as shit when she was a Shitshojo but after BF reveal she started to always stream with him and the streams got even more boring. Barely any interaction with chat or anything worth watching. Is just her and her bf playing games, watching Youtube and talking to each other about stuff no one cares about. Absolutely boring shit. It's a miracle in itself that she still got an audience that pays for their living expenses.

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>>69263291
It's counteracted by the pity dollars.

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>>69257792
If you have actually watch Nyanners and know how fucking long she's being around, you would be fucking glad she actually got a bf LOL.

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>>69263674
This.
She even did a concert with Kizuna AI. She had the exposure.

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>>69257792
She actually was kind of gfe in like early 2021, more so with discord streams. Not full on "i love you" more lets hang out at 3am and watch movies type. Also to answer your question i dont watch vtubers to hear or see guys, i watch cute girls. Athel is an incessant fag too which didnt help

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>>69257855
used to watch her a lot but then her content shifted to just flirting with his partner almost every stream i stopped. if i wanted a flirt session i'd go to your mom instead.

[Anonymous No.]

She was amongst the ones who gained the most during COVID. Many clips of her being posted on reddit, collabs with the mizkif streaming family, ... then covid stopped, irl/outside streams reappeared and she disappeared.

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>>69267202
>BDSM meetups
huh?

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>>69258632
Exactly, this anon gets it, it goes from being centered around her too, guys my bf did something so funny, colabs with him, etc etc.

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>>69259831
Fuck man i completely agree, i miss those days

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>>69273675
It's worse than that.

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>>69292364
It's not just a GFE or even Vtuber thing. Female streamers in general tend to take a hit if it comes out they've got a boyfriend, even if their content doesn't lean on that at all.

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>>69282299
Pretty sure she also said she'd never be interested in guys.

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>>69291525
You're just restating the fact that she's a woman. That's literally all that is.

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>>69293444
Men are much more disagreeable than women, and their self esteem is based on what they think of themselves, not what they think others think about them which is what women's self esteem is based on.

There are graphs out there of how couples politics shift over time, and women STRONGLY move to the male side, whatever that is, and men don't move at all really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69264646
I miss her singing, its what made me start watching her

[Anonymous No.]

>>69262514
Zen does too and coincidentally also had a new outfit debut at a very similar timeslot just 1 day earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69259277
based

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>>69264327
I mean Vei doesn't bring Soda on her own streams outside of very rare occasions, but I wouldn't say she handles it better. It just means she streams even less and spends a lot of the time that would be spent streaming on his channel instead lmao