National Religion of Taiwan

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National Religion of Taiwan

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>>69232828
Ahh this is the power of god.

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holoTW is more likely than holoKR or holoES

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>>69232828
*Taipei

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>>69232828
I always knew Gura was the top and Ame was the bottom.

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>>69232969
Linglan Lily and Mizuki for Hololive

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>>69232972
fuck off west taiwan

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>>69233130
Nah, they would be harassed to hell by NGA niggas

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>>69233182
chinkbro?

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>2~3k people went there at night to see a 10 seconds ad

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>>69233283
gura is chinese...

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How do you think Gura feels about this?

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>>69232828
>watsons tax refund
AMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>69233413
>"hurr durr mmmm cheeese"

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>>69233413
>it's just a short ad, I should probably not talk about it on stream to avoid disappointment, maybe just a small tweet
*streets get flooded anyways*

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>>69233413
>here is $50k to show up for 10 seconds, and by "show up" we mean just pre-record something
Probably feeling really happy.

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>>69233612
The tweet was definitely part of the advertisement they paid for. Not much she could do about it.

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>>69232828
World Cunny domination!!!

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>>69232972
correct, the city of Taipei in the Country of Taiwan. As chink want you to call Taiwan "Chines Taipei"

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>>69232828
sugoi

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>>69232828
Anyone got a recording?

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>>69233807
>As chink want you to call Taiwan "Chines Taipei"
no they dont also learn english archipelago monkey.

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>>69232828
>Gura on top of Watson's
Hot.

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>>69236233
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efEeRgL2e-M

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>>69232828
Why doesn't Hololive make a CN branch?

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>>69236631
>20 minutes of ads before the actual thing
That's dedication.
Starts at 19:50 btw

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It's cool that VTubers like Gura exist to
motivate and inspire future generations

hololive is lucky to have her for a while longer
poseidon be praised.

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>>69232972
The one true China, The Republic of China.

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>>69236691
God imagine if HoloCN is real

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>>69232972

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>>69236941
Sushiro Chinese Taipei doesn't roll off the tongue quite well

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>>69233807
What was the reason which lead to Coco's graduation?

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>>69232828
I want that crazy cut hair.

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It's always weird to see just how much more popular Gura is worldwide than every other English vtuber.

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>>69232969
>ES
Agreed, brownoids are poor as fuck
>KR
Why is this? You don't think Hololive could join forces with the players from that market?

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>>69238614
I'm not trying to downplay Gura's value as an entertainer, but I think that half of her success can be attributed to her design.
Nachoneko really did an outstanding work by creating a character design that's unique, cute, and easily recognizable. The first thing anyone says about Gura is how cute she is, and only then, if they're familiar with her, they compliment her singing or other skills. She's to Hololive what Mickey is to Disney - an icon. I simply can't imagine Gura reaching half of her popularity if she had an avatar like Kiara. I can only think of ~3-5 holos that are on the same level of character design: Pekora, Marine, Laplus, Mori and probably someone else I'm missing. Coincidentally, those are (or were) one of the most popular holomem.
It must really suck for talents that get into Hololive and are given cute or sexy but overall average/generic avatars, and they have to work knowing they'll never get that visual buff.

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>>69239763
Ignoring bits of your post that clearly just puts everyone else in hololive down for some reason? (you're not an anti, right?), it's funny to think that Gura's live2D got shafted at first
Imagine seeing that great design and deciding to let Tradesman Shin do the work

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>>69239763
Retard.
Character design is not an IF, they get to choose and Cover matches it with their voice and personality.

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>>69232828
WELL SHE BEAT ME TO "NO STREAM" FOR 6 MONTHS

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>>69233283
....... Gura did not type this.....

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>>69233048

EXCUSE ME?!

https://youtu.be/Re6OGXN_DDI?si=_2ahiZecg-lOTkuC
https://youtu.be/Re6OGXN_DDI?si=_2ahiZecg-lOTkuC>>69233413

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>>69233413
>aughhhHHHHHH!

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>>69239891
Saying that most holos aren't as famous or entertaining as Gura, Pekora, Marine, Laplus and Mori is just the facts. If they were they would be more popular.

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>>69232828
I KNEEL

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>>69232828
HOW CAN IRONLUNGS COMPETE?

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>>69240059
Q-QUICK, RUN AN APOSTROPHE CHEK

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE ISN’T ONE??

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>>69236448
>OS 2022 Taiwan was force to go under the name "Chinese Taipei"

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gura is really likeable
not because she's the best at this or that
she has the best balance of any VTuber I've seen
hololive hit jackpot back then

i also like that she didn't build her career on drama,
and that she's known as the character, not as her flesh self

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>>69232969
I fucking hope so. I hope they scourge that island for Yogiri too.

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>>69232969
That woudl require acknowledging Taiwan is an independent country from PRC (or that Taiwan is the one true China). Either case is a land-mine for any big corporation.

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>>69236448
Yes they do.

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>>69232969
BRING BACK YOGIRI

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>>69240640
Problem is ,Taiwan claim to be China and so does the PRC, so its basically a civil war that is still going on till this day.

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>>69236448
I thought Taiwan is a province of china along with HK.

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>>69240866
More complicated than that.
Britain gave HK to china. That's simple.

America took Taiwan from Japan but didn't give it to anybody officially when they left. The Nationalists in china, who lost the civil war, fled to Taiwan (and started shooting Taiwanese because chinese are just like that). The Nationalists still claim china is their's and the communists also claim china is their's.

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>>69241052
Damn...

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>>69240837
For some time now Taiwan's ruling party (and the popular sentiment among the politically aware) is claiming to be independent which is actually a bigger slap to the CCP's face than claiming to be the REAL China like the previous ruling parties.

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T.me/mitrathret

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Taiwan is also a nation of powerful Deadbeats. It's where Mori launched her MoriZakura.

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>>69236742
Thank you

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>>69236631
Wow she spoke Chinese with that sushi restaurant collab. Plenty of women in the crowd too

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>>69241052
More interestingly, the ROC led by the KMT (Taiwan) had been a long standing member of the United Nations since 1945. In 1971 there was a vote held that effectively ruled the ROC as a dissident minority regime, stripped the rights of the Taiwanese people to self determination, expelling the representatives from Taipei and installing representatives from Beijing.
The then representative of the ROC stated that
>the ideals upon which the UN was founded had been betrayed

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>>69232828
taiwanese bros are so much more tolerable than their mainland trash brothers. fascinating that they are technically the same people just a different culture

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>>69239763
her design has that cute mascot energy and her personality and voice complement that well.I think thats one of the reasons why she seems to attract all kinds of people.her genmates and most other holo seem far more specialised in one way or another.

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>>69241667
Why the fuck did the ROC even need to be in the security council over anyone else while most of China wasn't even present at the UN? Both states claimed to be China, it made more sense to give the China seat to the people who occupied mainland China.

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>>69241837
How can they be the same people if they have different culture...?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1J4qjcqcNM

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>>69241667
Yeah, that was a dumb move. I recall that the US president pushed for that because: 'if communist china gets more money, they'll turn away from communist dictatorship and become freedom lovers just like us'.
It kind of amazes me how often the US bungles international politics.

>the ideals upon which the UN was founded had been betrayed
True, in a kind of bad way. The basis of the UN is a lot more sinister than people realise, less League of Nations and more how America planned to control the world. The UN was practically a remodelling of the 'Four Policemen'.
>The "Four Policemen" was a postwar council with the Big Four that US President Franklin Roosevelt proposed as a guarantor of world peace. Their members were called the Four Powers during World War II and were the four major Allies of World War II: the United Kingdom, the United States, the Soviet Union, and China (KMT).
>As a preventive measure against new wars, countries other than the Four Policemen were to be disarmed. Only the Four Policemen would be allowed to possess any weapons more powerful than a rifle.
>As a compromise with internationalist critics, the Big Four nations became the permanent members of the UN Security Council

>In October 1942, Churchill told Eden that Republican China represented a "faggot vote on the side of the United States in any attempt to liquidate the British overseas empire." Eden shared this view with Churchill and expressed skepticism that China, which was then in the midst of a civil war, could ever return to a stable nation. Roosevelt responded to Churchill's criticism by telling Eden that "China might become a very useful power in the Far East to help police Japan" and that he was fully supportive of offering more aid to China.

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So who won? Miko or Gura?

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>>69242119
It worked though, playing into the sino-soviet split was essential in the Cold War. The PRC was much more of an asset to the Yanks than the ROC, and the ROC was already fully a Yank protectorate anyway, it made no sense at all to alienate the PRC over the ROC when the ROC was already in their pockets.

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So holoTW means yugiri can come back right?

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>>69242053
The UN was an off-shoot of the Four Policemen (1942). The Four Policemen being the four Allied powers. At that time, chinese communists weren't a big deal.
And the only reason FDR wanted KMT china in was because he knew they would owe him for helping them win against Japan. As Churchill says: a 'faggot vote on the side of the United States'.

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>>69239763
Would Sana still quit if she had a different design?

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HAIL GURA

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>>69241837
I'm not aware of the genetics side, because I hear of 'Taiwanese aboriginals' who are probably not 'chinese'. But I'm not sure how significant they are.
That aside: Japan did a lot for Taiwan during the 50 years of annexation. A lot of the boomer (real boomer) Taiwanese spoke Japanese. Most of them still liked Japan even after Japan left (because the KMT was awful in Taiwan).

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>>69242460
Yeah, and it made sense. But when it became obvious the ROC was never going to reclaim China it made no sense not to pander to the PRC. Really both from a real politiks aspect and an institutional values aspect it made no sense at all to allow the ROC to keep their seat over the PRC.

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>>69242645
Didn't the KMT conduct purges against the natives?

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>>69242386
>>69242658
At what point did America have control over the chinese communists? They're still an issue for America today.

> it made no sense at all to allow the ROC to keep their seat over the PRC
The PRC almost never agrees with America, vetoing a lot of American stuff. The ROC wouldn't do that (ALL memebers of the UN SC have to agree on something for it pass).

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>>69242386
>US president pushed for that because: 'if communist china gets more money, they'll turn away from communist dictatorship and become freedom lovers just like us'
>It worked though
...

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>>69242720
Not sure. I only know the KMT started shooting Taiwanese when they got their (because Taiwanese started complaining about good-old chinese corruption).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_28_incident
>Directed by provincial governor Chen Yi and president Chiang Kai-shek, thousands of civilians were killed beginning on February 28, 1947.

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>>69242778
It is irrelevant because the US already has the UK govenrment to suck their dick and the Soviets/Russia would block it anyway. During the Cold War courting the PRC so they didn't go back to the USSR was the right move, on top of that you got companies lobbying in the government who really benefited from moving their factories to China.

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>>69239177
The KR fanbase

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lol

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>>69242912
Do you really think the government cares about muh democracy? That's just for PR.
The actual reason was not letting the Chinese fall under the orbit of Russia again. It worked, plain and simple, the US won the cold war.

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could they ever bring back yogiri? would she ever want to

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>>69242778
Back then ROC quickly became irrelevant. It became much more important to try to wedge the relationship between USSR and PCR.

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>>69239177
There are several countries down there with a GDP per capita higher than ID, It's more likely a lack of target audience.

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>>69243059
>>69243178
I don't see anything about the US doing that so china wouldn't go to the Soviets. Post some proof please.

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>>69242119
Funnily enough, at the time, the US introduced a draft resolution that would affirm the representation of the PRC as one of the 5 permanent members of the Security Council while also affirming the continuing right of representation of the ROC.
There were votes held to reject the US backed proposals to strike from the draft resolution the words
>and to expel forthwith the representatives of Chiang Kai-Shek from the place which they unlawfully occupied at the United Nations and in all the organizations related to it
This proposal failed 61 to 51 with 16 abstentions.
The final resolution was voted 76 to 35 with 17 abstentions
For:
>Afghanistan, Albania, Algeria, Austria, Belgium, Bhutan, Botswana, Bulgaria, Burma, Burundi, Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic, Cameroon, Canada, Ceylon, Chile, Cuba, Czechoslovakia, Denmark, Ecuador, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Ghana, Guinea, Guyana, Hungary, Iceland, India, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Kenya, Kuwait, Kingdom of Laos, Libyan Arab Republic, Malaysia, Mali, Mauritania, Mexico, Mongolia, Morocco, Nepal, Netherlands, Nigeria, Norway, Pakistan, People's Democratic Republic of Yemen, People's Republic of the Congo, Peru, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Rwanda, Senegal, Sierra Leone, Singapore, Somalia, Sudan, Sweden, Syrian Arab Republic, Togo, Trinidad and Tobago, Tunisia, Turkey, Uganda, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, United Republic of Tanzania, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Zambia
Against:
>Australia, Bolivia, Brazil, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo (Democratic Republic of), Costa Rica, Dahomey, Dominican Republic, EI Salvador, Gabon, Gambia, Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras, Ivory Coast, Japan, Khmer Republic, Lesotho, Liberia, Madagascar, Malawi, Malta, New Zealand, Nicaragua, Niger, Paraguay, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Swaziland, United States of America, Upper Volta, Uruguay, Venezuela
Abstain:
>Argentina, Bahrain, Barbados, Colombia, Cyprus, Fiji, Greece, Indonesia, Jamaica, Jordan, Lebanon, Luxembourg, Mauritius, Panama, Qatar, Spain, Thailand
The idea that communist dictatorship China would embrace democracy when exposed to capitalism was the catalyst for China eventually joining the World Trade Organization

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>>69243328
Which is weird because the Hispanic world is full of weebs.

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>>69232972
How do you know it is Taipei and not Kaohsiung or Taichung?

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>>69243379
Adult weebs?
Cause poorfag teenagers and children aren't going to be spending any money. With ID, at least being a weeb as an adult isn't so farfetched.

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>>69243148
Koreans are the biggests weebs on the planet.

Just don't you dare to buy a Sony TV instead of an Samsung or LG.

It's just hypocrisy and they basically just choose what's acceptable.

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do you remember the time when the mainlanders were mad over this?
critical thinking = non-existent

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>>69243658
THE most soulless people has got to be PRC citizens.

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>>69243509
Otaku culture has been more popular in the Hispanic world for far longer than it has been in the US.
What would be gen X was already quite into anime. I was introduced to anime as a child through my parents, both born in the early 70s. My mum used to be a huge Sakura Card Captor fan.

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>>69243349
This was during the Kissinger era, there's plenty of docummentation of Kissinger and China, it's not even hidden idk how you could miss it.
Look up Kissinger and triangular diplomacy.

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>>69243349
China was mostly against aggressive communist expansion back then. US of course supported that and started to treat PCR on the same level as USSR diplomatically which was something China absolutely wanted.

Things have obviously changed.

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>>69243964
I ain't American, so American history is never taught here beyond the Vietnam war and a over-view of the Cold War.

>>69243178
>the US won the cold war
A war they begot by funding their enemy into existence w.

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>>69241524
>You now remember the homo cosplayers last fes were from TW

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>>69243831
Did your parents actually buy anything otaku related though?

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>>69232828
>Glory to the Republic of China

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>>69241837
>>69242095
taiwanese original aboriginal natives were under most of taiwanese history second class citizen and oppressed. they barely are represented in the gene pool of general taiwanese but existent. it is like true okinawans to todays okinawans but if you look into trace genetics of aboriginals mixed into han chinese... that is basically everyone han chinese not from core mainland china.

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>>69244147
It makes sense, I am not a Yank either but I have slightly above average geopolitical knowledge.
>A war they begot by funding their enemy into existence w
Yes of course, I will not deny that. The thing is, no matter how much you try you will never be without enemies. There will always be a current power and emerging ones competing for the top spot.
Ideology is irrelevant, which is why Anglos always try to undermine Russia throughout history, be it Tsarist, Communist, or Liberal.
There's also obviously the historical innertias, Russia rn is not the main threat to Yank hegemony, that'd be China. What the US should've been doing following the triangular diplomacy idea, should've been to approach Russia against China. Which is what the Trump administration tried to do.

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>>69244240
They used to buy casettes and later DVDs, figurines and all that weren't even a thing back then here. But nowadays Otakus certainly do, it's normal to see people walking on the street with anime tshirts for example.

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>>69244529
If only Russia had become pro-european after the fall of USSR.

But no, I'm afraid we will still feel the repercussions of the cold war for decades. Much in the same way how WW1 shaped the 20th century.

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>>69244240
When I was growing up tho we had a ton of jap merch. Lots of Saint Seya, Dragon Ball, and Naruto toys, you could go anywhere with your Yu-Gi-Oh deck and find people to play with. People actually thought you were weird if you didn't know much about the popular anime.

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>>69244788
There was literally no reason for Russia to become pro-EU at all. Francis Fukuyama was wrong, there's no end of history.
No such thing as a harmonious neoliberal world.

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>>69244788
>If only Russia had become pro-european after the fall of USSR.

bro Russia wanted to join NATO... the west couldn't let the Cold War go

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>>69233413
uh oh!

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>Meat up
Yeah, mine

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Oh no, gura's pro CCP confirmed

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>>69244956
>you could go anywhere with your Yu-Gi-Oh deck
Legit or fakes? Fakes don't actually support the otaku industry, just chinese conterfeiters.

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>>69245088
Nato doesn't mean pro-european. Neither does EU for that matter.

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>>69245034
'end of history' is older than Fukuyama.
Ironically, the Soviets were on a mission to reach the end of history themselves (Marx said communism was the end of 'pre-history', despite post-communism, being fully ideal society, would have no history. So pre-history is just history).

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>>69245034
>pro-EU

who said anything about EU?

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>>69239177
>Agreed, brownoids are poor as fuck
thousand of 1$ are better than 3 or 5 100$

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>>69244529
Russia and Britain did work together to fight France (Napoleon).

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>>69232828
Do chumbuds really?

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>>69245654
Except the reality is rich countries give more than just 5 $100.
Didn't FGO make a billion fucking dollars in Japan alone? That's the power of a developed nation.

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>>69245772
It is more of a cultural reason(Asian believe luck is a skill) and most gacha whale live paycheck to paycheck nothing but instant noodles

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>>69245872
That sounds like poorfag cope desu.
I recall that the seiyuu for servants often just roll for their character until they get NP5 (5 copies of SSR). Just on a whim.

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>>69243571
Korean schizos make /vt/ schizos look tame, do not underestimate their autism.
They will willingly go to war for gacha pulls, imagine the same energy that holoKR will bring in

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>>69245443
A mix of both.
The major issue back then was companies not caring to even export things to here, so that led to an issue where you had to import it yourself raising the prices of the merch higher than it was in countries like Japan or the US. This also meant your money only very indirectly went to the official store.
People are willing to buy the official stuff when it's available, though.
Remember that even if you get a small portion of the potential public to buy the merch the Hispanic world is quite large, I would say it is pretty comparable to ID.

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>>69245603
I assumed that's what you meant, Russia is already Europe, I don't understand what you mean.
>>69245588
Well of course, I was refering to the neoliberal utopia of an eternal global late 90s.
>>69245676
The UK adopted their more agressive approach towards Russia afterwards, during the XIX century and the great game. But whenever it is imperative two enemies will collaborate to take down a third, look at how Spain and the UK collaborsted agaisnt France despite them being enemies for hundreds years and the UK actively conspiring to disolve Spain.

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>>69245997
>That sounds like poorfag cope desu.
it is well documented

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>>69232828
How does it feel that Gura left you for a Taiwanese man?

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>>69246020
I think no one in holo is retarded enough to call some islands japanese or recalling the colonian times though.

Regarding anime and vtubers koreans are mostly tame if you don't mention certain or said topics. If you do though, they are as bad as zhangs. Maybe even worse thanks to their better grasp at english.

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>>69246556
>Pinching emoji.jpg
>Crab emoji.jpg

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>>69232828
I want to make a pilgrimage to Watson's Store to worship at the altar to same-chan

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>>69246556
I remember Koreans getting assblasted at a Sims 4 expansion set in Japan because they saw a Sim in the trailer bowing at a pseudo-Shinto Shrine.
Koreans are truly schizo.

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Fuck it, I know I'm going to get deep in the weeds here, but I can't help but ask why the mentioning of Taiwan gets Chinese citizens so assblasted in the first place, because what would be a purely governmental border dispute literally anywhere else seems to invoke unholy autism here. I know a fair amount about the Chinese Civil War and WHY things are like that, just not why the average Chinese person would care deeply.
Is there some sort of unspoken cultural reason? Or is it trolling?

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>>69246556
If you use their Japanese names, the koreans will go ballistic. koreans are just like chinese in their schizo shit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntary_Agency_Network_of_Korea
>funded by the Korean government

>Although official foreign government agencies tend to endure its cyber harassment, numerous private organisations and websites surrender to silence VANK's clamour.
>An About.com spokesman, relating his company's decision to use the name "East Sea" to refer to the body of water otherwise known as the Sea of Japan, stated that they chose to use the name "not necessarily because it agreed with the South Korean geography activists but because the e-mail bombardment was annoying."

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>>69246989
>why the average Chinese person would care deeply
They are practically a different species of human, not something we civilised people can really relate to.
Also, their schools do heaps on indoctrination.

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>>69246989
The issue is when westerners claim Taiwan is its own country separate from China, if you refer to Taiwan as part of China they don't get assblasted. But westerners don't really know anything about Taiwan or China so they tend to assume they just get mad at the mere existence of Taiwan.
As to why they get mad when you question China's unity, it's becsuse the Chinese tend to be extremely nationalistic, natsoc levels.

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>>69246386
Russia is indeed in europe and share many cultural things with the rest of europe. But they do not share the current cultural and political mindset of europeans.

Their mentality is still that we always suffer and the west is against us which is why they accept having less political and sometimes less personal freedoms.

Europe for the last 70 years has been built on co-operation, even if you're outside the EU.

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>>69247363
mainlander nationalism isn't even nationalism, it's more like ethnocism (or race-ism). muh han chinese and other bullshit.

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>>69247142
Who would do that though?

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>>69247632
True enough.
Personally, I'd rather just not deal with them or zhangs.

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>>69247599
That's why I said NatSoc levels. In fact China is probably what Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy would look like today if they had survived into the XXI century.

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>>69247507
So you want Russia to practically be pro-EU. Like I said Russia has no need to and if anything history has shown us that their fear of the Anglo-led west is more than justified.

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>>69247821
Maybe, but Germany and Italy are first world, china is second world.
Also, chinese are just... retarded. I feel it would be, simply due to culture, somehow different.

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>>69247916
If having more political freedom and making trading easier with your neighbors means being pro-EU, I don't know how what I can tell you.

It's something every county should strive towards.

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>>69248409
Yeah, because you work on a liberal worldview. For you open economic cooperation and political individual freedom are guiding ideals.
People can think outside that box and hold different ideals, westerners or westernized people seem to think Liberal ideals are eternally good and universal, but don't realize it's just their ideology.

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>>69241052
Taiwan was built by the Japanese, people didn't even have a pot to piss in before they came around.

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>>69248000
Eh
Who knows?
China is so large it could easily include Fascist period Italy inside itself, lights and shadows included.

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>>69248761
It's the ideal current idealogy. Not perfect, globalisation and immigration has proven that. Russians enjoy parts of it and lie to themselves for the rest.

And then there's cities like St. Petersburg which would become liberal in a heartbeat if you gave them the chance.

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>>69232969
they already tried a holo china

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>>69249117
Russians are a liberalized, yet not fully liberal, society. But I think their experience with neoliberalism in the 90s hurt them so badly they simply do not want to return to that.
I don't understand what you mean by liberalism being the current ideal ideology. In which terms? Because China is not liberal and has grown to the point they are starting to threaten US interests.

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>>69232828
Cute

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>>69249467
By western terms of course. China is much like Russia in the way that they emulate liberalism without doing it fully because that's what keeps them happy.

The illusion of personal, economic and socail freedoms.

As long as you perceive having some of those, along with a dash of nationalism, you're happy.

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>>69250165
>The illusion of personal, economic and socail freedoms
Is that much different from how the US is?
In liberal societies you are only allowed to do and say things that don't threaten the status quo. That's why things like LGBTQ+ or feminism is ok but being an actual Fascist or an actual Communist will lead to you being silenced and ostracized.

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this thread sucks shit

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>>69250543
Why?

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>>69232828
Maybe China is onto something with their invasion plans

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>>69250700
Xi Jinping wants to meet Gawr Gura.

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>>69250425
Politically it absolutely is because unless you fully control the information, people will always compare themselves to their neighboring countries. Social (or political) questions aside, people know what's happening in the next country. If the control of information fails, there's always a certain part of population that goes, why should they be allowed to do it but not us?

China excels at this to a certain point. Russia less so.

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>>69250932
Do they really? Westerners are really spoonfed information, propaganda is present at every level of life. I realized this with the Ukranian war, a very complex geopolitical issue reduced to Putin bad Russia bad, and Ukranian flags getting plastered everywhere. Something that never happens when the US moves its military machinery.

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nice little /pol/ colony you guys have here

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>>69233283
Its the name of the city...

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>>69252041
I don't look at pol the topic just came up naturally

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>>69251747
The difference is that you'll get disappeared over there for expressing wrongthink, while we have to deal with /pol/fags everyday infesting here and other parts of the internet.

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>>69251747
There's a difference between getting propaganda and choosing where to get your propaganda. Yes, most westerners get their information spoonfed to them to by their media of choice. It absolutely affects the general opinion but you still got a choice. A person from poland can follow news from china , russia, UK, US, dubai, india and so on. Probably not, but there's still that choice.

When you have go through extra hoops to find that alternative information, that's when people may start to question you.

May being the magic word.

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>>69252590
Right now not, because they are on top of the situation, but when cornered Liberals act just like that. Dissapearing and assasinating threats to the political status quo.
>>69253169
I think it's pretty much the same. You get an illusion of choice in liberal societies, usually get a lot of different newspapers which all relay similar news and worldviews. The chinese can read and use sites from outside China, it just requires a bit of effort setting up a VPN.
Which to be honest I don't think is as rare as a Yank reading Arab or Chinese news.

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>>69232828
Lmao

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>>69232828
And this is why Gura doesn't stream.

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>>69253960
For every day life, yes. Most people don't give a fuck. But do you think a yank gets in trouble for reading about benedict arnold on al-jazeera? How about a chinese guy doing the same about tianmen?

The illusion of choice is always more powerful when it's backed up by fear.

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>>69255150
It's all about performance for the Chinese, you won't get in trouble for knowing that shit. If any of them use foreign sites, which many do, they will come across that fact quite frequently since westerners bring them up.
The issue is when you start organizing shit against the government, or actingbon that knowledge.
That being said I don't like China's system either, Communism is just an offshoot of Liberalism, I just find it annoying how Liberals interpret the world as if Liberalism were the most perfect sytem and the ultimate good were a "democratic" free market individualist society.

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>>69255656
I think that's quite a lot of positive thinking on your part. There's plenty of videos and proof on the internet how the chinese act when tianmen is either mentioned or talked about, be it in real life or on the internet. Same with many other topics, as we saw of during the Peking olympics.

In the end it's all about controlling information, which happens everywhere. But I'd at least like to live in a society where getting any information is as easy as possible.

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>>69256760
I don't want to want to live in China either, but I don't think the US is a good place to live in either.

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>>69257016
I always hear those who moved to English countries complain that people are very distant and cold.

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>>69257016
Absolutely not.

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>>69257453
That's just the culture there, and that's fine, every people has a different culture. What worries me is the levels of schizophrenia I saw in the US, like genuinely full streets full of drug zombies in California, people armed everywhere, the way you get blasted off your head with ads, and all that. It's scary when you realize GTA is only a slight exageration of Yank culture.

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>>69257741
Agreed. USA is a shitshow.

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>>69257741
If you had a homegrown 40m+ nog population plus open borders you would also support gun ownership

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>>69240201
Laplus design is kino but there is plenty of more populars Holo's than her.
Subaru,Ayame,Shion,Aqua(Just realised I just mamed gen 2) Suisei,Miko,Towa,Watame,Fubuki,Korone,Kanata,Sakamata her jinsei reset button pachi sure helped a lot.

Laplus wasted her design imo, she would be up there if she was more mentally stable and also didnt decide to go stream on twitch most of the time.
She's a very good dancer tho the best in jp.

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>>69232828
Yep we're never Going back to china with this one

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Shork supremacy.

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>>69258981
I'm from South America, don't come from a paradise, but it's not just the gun ownership, it's people walking through a market carrying around a rifle on their back which I found bizarre.
I can't explain it, everything there felt surreal, beyond the guns, it genuinely felt like GTA irl.
I remember staying at a friends home and there being a shootout a few blocks down the street and no one even reacting much to it, it was insane almost as if it had been a natural phenomena.

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>>69257016
I like Japan but that's because I already know japanese. If not for that I'd prefer some place like Denmark.

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>>69259605
>a hellhole with a higher murder rate than the place that allegedly has people openly walking around with rifles
Comment discarded I don't engage with 70 IQ brown people

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>>69260160
My country has a lower homicide rate than the US, though.

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>>69232828
West Taiwan has lost, and not talking about its economy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiDgIzYpM9w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7vqjRx66TA

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>>69232828
>Yogiri watching within the crowd

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>>69232972
*Republic of China (real)

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>>69232828
>Watsons
>tax refund
This is bullshit. Ame knows taxation is theft.

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>>69259142
But thats in china, the republic of china.

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While I was in Taiwan (vacation) there were three separate occasions where I saw people wearing holo merch and all of it was Gura. They love her there

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>>69240409
>Taiwan was force to go under the name "Chinese Taipei"
>In Olympic Games Beijing 2022
>Beijing
I wonder why

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>>69242119
Thats omitting the part where the KMT allied with Hitler.

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>>69246989
It's nationalism, you wouldn't understand it.

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>>69232828
>Formosa is still ruled the Japanese

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>>69264068
And the context was that faggot didn't accept that West Taiwan would force someone to call it "Chines Taipei" and not Taiwan.

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>>69233182
It always weirds me out when /pol/ use this, most Taiwanese don't consider themselves Chinese, and those who do like the "nationalists" are straight up pro CCP

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>>69238345
They already hated Coco and the incident was just an excuse for a chimp out. Notice how Haachama basically got away scott free for the exact same "crime"?

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>>69265922
??

west taiwan is derogatory slang against china?

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>>69266898
Odd. I remember hearing an anon from another thread talking about how she left because is had enough with Cover being retarded.

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>>69266898
>They already hated Coco
Something to do with her acknowledging Taiwan?

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>>69269196
NTA, but to my knowledge, even before the Taiwan "incident" they weren't fond of her because she basically refused to stream on Bilibili hence the "what, bro, we're not good for you?" attitude. The fact that she'd sometimes speak English to foreign fans, but never paid chinks any attention added more to their injury. What does CCP chink hate more than Japanese and Americans? A Japanese American that's arrogant (according to them). When Cover was pushing hard to get into that sweet China market, the chinks really wanted Coco to cater to them because she WAS in demand, and her dragon avatar gave a huge boost to her popularity. However, that big orange woman gave close to zero fucks about them, and when the "incident" happened, she doubled down on showing love to Taiwan fans. The only ever positive thing she said about mainland fans was something along the lines of "I know there are fans" and that's about it.
Now, as Kson, she has publicly mentioned Taiwan multiple times, and was really open about how much she loves her Taiwanese fans. On top of that, she actually traveled to the country. Coco always knew who her true fans are.

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>>69269085
>believing Zhang propaganda
ISHYGDDT

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>>69269085
Learn to read retard

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you know if some shit ever broke out in the south china sea we'd see F-35s and F-16s with holos on them

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who gets a giant neon sign for a hair salon

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>>69274067
Me, I own the Gwar Grua haircut shop

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2fZjTjQp44

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>>69271148
after Coco incident, Hololive hates china more that china hates Hololive. Thats why the death count of Hololive in bilibili are updating with holotori dance