/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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Who is the least controversial HoloEN? Surely we can all agree at least one of them is unambiguously good

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Moom.

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>>69227476

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>>69227476
Ina
IRyS
Bae
Mumei
Fauna
Fuwawa
Biboo
Shiori

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>>69227476

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>>69227499
Yeah, Mumei's so boring people even forget she exists when they're trying to bait for replies.

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Mumei or Ina.

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>>69227476
unless you count the schizo song autists back in august as "drama", Or the homobaiters brief blip during the holofest announcement, The dogs have literally NEVER had any drama, and are almost universally loved or atleast memed on in a friendly way, I'd say biboo as well except a lotta peeps may hate her for her cringe zoomer schtick

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Everyone is at least neutral on Bijou. Worst thing people say is that she streams boring games.

Pretty much everyone likes Mumei.

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>>69227529
>>69227683
Ruffians are delusional, 70% of holofans despise the dogs just for their shtick

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>>69227723
I find Bijou kind of obnoxious, she seems unable to enjoy something without 18 layers of irony

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>>69227798
they're annoying, but I don't despise them, I just don't watch them
i understand that it's important for a company to provide some variety

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>>69227723
I would too if I made it in and the made me a baby.

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>>69227884
Most of my subordinates at work are her age so I'm used to it. That's just what youth culture is like now.

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>>69227476
Literally only Ina.
Everybody else has schizos, but despite being in EN1 Ina's the only member who has zero. Even in Hololive Global you'll see a schizo go from shitting on one of the girls to switching to fanbases and shitting on Takos instead of Ina herself.

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>>69228057
Understandable but it just rubs me the wrong way so I can't really enjoy her streams

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>>69227476
>least controversial HoloEN
It's a tie between Kiara and Biboo. Everybody else has some kind of controversy that's either simmering or boilin'. Even Fuwamoco has controversy thanks to the way they make homobeggars wail and gnash their teeth with infinite seethe like this retard over here >>69227798, which is unbelievably based and only makes the dogs stronger, but controversy is still controversy

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>>69228108
She draws well, but she's boring and sounds like a literal retard

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>>69228108
Well there was the Guilty Gear incident

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>>69228163
>Kiara is uncontroversial
Bait or stupid?

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>>69228199
That incident only highlighted the fact that Ina had no schizos. They literally had to manufacture the drama just to make it work and it was only recognized as shitposting potential a day and a half later after Ina brought it up.

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IRyS
Fauna (only schizos won't let go)
Mumei
Biboo
FWMC

>>69227555
>immediately names the shittiest talent currently in hololive
>ends the list with the fucking grifter
Go back.

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>>69228108
There’s people that dislike Ina
Either for the Guilty Gear stream or for doing the song with the orange sex pest guy

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>>69227476
Ina or Mumei

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>>69228209
Factual. Kiara has zero controversy.

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>>69228300
It was a pretty shitty thing to say and kind of exposed how she views her fanbase in general

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>>69228199
>>69228300
qrd?

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The only controversy Ina has is the nepohiring of Sana. Other than that I often forget she even exists. I'd say the cleanest are FWMC.

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From least controversial to most

Bijou
Mumei
FuwaMoco
Ina
Fauna
IRyS
Gura
Shiori
Nerissa
Bae
Ame
(Sana)
Kiara
Kronii
Mori

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>>69228651
How is Fuwamoco more controversial than meme spouting zoomer biboo?

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>>69228452
This is what I mean by manufacturing too. Along with how long it took for shitposters to try and run with it.
>>69228492
tl;dr somebody who was known in Mori's chat to be a troll was shitting on Mori in her chat so Ina responded by saying it must be sad for them to have nothing else going on in their lives but to watch anime girls on the internet. Nobody really minded it but a day later she apologized saying it was a poor choice of words since it basically described herself.

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>>69228651
pretty good list but I'd put Bijou a bit lower Kiara a bit higher

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>>69227476
Moom

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>>69228651
Switch Ina and Bijou, Mumei and IRyS, and Kiara and Kronii.

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>>69228714
Their “hurr durr they didn’t cheer for Holostars” thing
Like it or not many people outside of here didn’t like that
Khyo’s dramanig vid for it is one of his most watched vids ever approaching 300k views

It’s retarded but it happened

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>>69228714
Fuwamoco (unintentionally) ended up in drama videos. It was just bad luck

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>>69227476
None, I hope all of them fuck off.

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Gura. She's the most spotless of them all.

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Kaela Kovalskia gsh

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>>69227798
Being primarily despised doesn't mean controversial. If anything it's the opposite.

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>>69228922
Still not watching your whoreshi.

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>>69228741
I mean she's not wrong but that is straight up biting the hand that feeds. This is like when the Wii would tell you're playing too much and to go touch grass

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Not counting doxxshit, only Hololive content.

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>>69228651
I feel like gura should be higher up the list, What exactly has nerissa done apart from be coomerbait when shiori is also coomerbait AND Nijilite?

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>>69228387
Chicken is the poster girl ideal for a holoEN girl. She works hard, causes no yabs and treats her fanbase well. KFP is one of the most pampered fanbases out there.
I think Kiara should win this one. Kiara has antis and haters but she isn't controversial.

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>>69227476
MOOMS

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>>69229159
Basically correct, but what did Nerissa do? I haven't seen anything other than "boring basic white girl" criticism

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>>69229159
I think ina made offensive jokes during the colab with mori didn't she? She also ranted about the ina's back thing.
Mooms took some breaks and left ppl guessing didn't she?
Biboo is newish and hasn't got any yet. Though i think some shizos called her a griefer for intentionally causing trouble during her game colabs with advent.
They ain't as clean as kiwawa.

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>>69229269
>I think ina made offensive jokes during the colab with mori didn't she? She also ranted about the ina's back thing.
Not really and yelling at redditors is based
>Mooms took some breaks and left ppl guessing didn't she?
Kiara is literally on a break
>Biboo is newish and hasn't got any yet. Though i think some shizos called her a griefer for intentionally causing trouble during her game colabs with advent.
She is intentionally messing with people but that's part of the game
>They ain't as clean as kiwawa.

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>>69229269
Moom streamed for like 6 days in a row during her current "break"

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Did people forget Ina becoming controversial around the time hololive was pulling out of China over the Taiwan yab?
Real or not she had a controversial history.

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>>69229164
>>69229251
I assume Nerissa is primarily:
Certain actions before Holo which idk if they count
The family stuff gets on the nerves of some and that sentiment has been on the rise even outside of here
Frequent Niji (though we’ll see if that changes now) and VShojo collabs
Crude personality in general

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>>69229269
I remember people getting mad when she started ranting about people hornyposting

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>>69229159
>/vt/ retards thinking they're bigger than they are when they're in the ultra minority: the chart

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>>69229418
>Real or not
pretty much means she didn't have a controversial history
Otherwise everybody is controversial because none of them are having sex with me and it's causing drama (with me only and specifically my penis).

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>>69229159
>ina
>spotless

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>>69229251
She's associated with Kiara and thus inherited some of her schizos. AFAIK she has not done anything yet that would be considered controversial among normalfags.
>>69229269
Kiara is my oshi and that's not true, she has the UNO collab where even casuals were upset with her. I could mention in her defense that she was bashed for trying to carry a dull collab with her antics which is fucking stupid, but regardless she has some amount of controversy that's not restricted to this board.

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Fauna because she's lowkey pretty ride or die and that's based.
Fauna the type of person you could give an uzi and tell you you're gonna rob a bank, and she's just gonna sit there loading the Uzi while saying "Oh dear, oh goodness..." in the same fashion you'd expect from your loving little grandmother.
How can you hate someone as ride or die as that?

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>>69228108
I dropped her after the half life incident

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>>69228902
>>69228844
The terror of unicorns to the point of completely clamming up at the mere existence of males onscreen looks really bad to normies anon

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>>69229610
I can't believe ina did this....
https://streamable.com/82hi2e

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>>69229159
an actual correct list

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>>69229159
She's not the first queen of controversy, but she is the worst thing since Elvis Presley to do black music so selfishly, and use it to get herself wealthy.

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>>69229575
Fauna unfortunately will never likely shed the "we are not friends and we should not be friends". I like her too but that was not her finest hour. Good thing the saplings as a whole didn't really complain too much and got over it.

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>>69228315
>Calls Ina trash and Shiori a grifter
You first, brownvtm fag

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>>69229647
I genuinely don't know: is Ina ESL?

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>>69229761
If ur not an american, australian or a british ur ESL right?

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>>69229761
English is her native language but her social skills are fucked and she knows Korean and Japanese too.

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>>69229159
FWMC down to Triggered schizos
Ina up to Triggered schizos
Otherwise I agree

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>>69229554
>she has the UNO collab where even casuals were upset with her.
How long ago was that? 2 years? 3? Kiara has absolutely no active controversies. The only controversies she ever had are long since dead and buried.

>>69229633
When Fuwamoco ignored the Homos it made them look incredibly good to people who spend money on vtubers.

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>>69229838
>Ina up to Triggered schizos
Ironically, the only time I ever see anybody close to being a schizo for Ina is when someone brings up how Ina has no schizos. Otherwise the only posts she gets are neutral or positive ones.

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My sharkwife.
>top of the vtubing scene for 3 years now and all eyes are on her
>draws attention from normies and still prevents controversy
>knows how to handle and prevent controversy like a pro
>only "controversy" is an unannounced hiatus

My sharkwife is too strong.

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>>69229899
Early Kiara was criticised but i'd propose that offending viewers is not enough for her to be classified as being controversial. Kiara has shown through her actions to be yab free. She has so many shizos that if there was something bad about orange woman we'd hear it spammed all day.

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>>69227476
I was gonna say Mumei, but after that Europe/Muslim incident...

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>>69229932
Gura should be yab free right? I don't remember anything she did.

>>69230003
I'm good with it but her video with the ship sinking and the black plague was the definition of controversial.

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>>69229159
Mumei has one schizo who’s triggered by her mere presence in Hololive.

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>>69229183
>Chicken is the poster girl ideal for a holoEN girl.
She never shuts up about herself and drowns out other people during collabs

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>>69229932
Can't cause controversy if you don't stream
>blackguytappinghead.jpg

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Unfortunately Mumei likely has a dokibird-flavored yab on the horizon

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>>69230140
She's going to post a video without permission? Don't jinx her. Mumei is actually smart for sure. She wouldn't do that.

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brilliant veiled holo vs holo thread

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>>69229838
>FWMC
The silent treatment of the homos made its rounds, even if it has died down since, so no.
>Ina
Now that I think about it, she did the "I left my phone at home" back in 2022 during her break and that caught some attention, so I have to agree.

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>>69227476
Ina because she's a wall(floor)flower.

You can close the thread now.

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>>69228387
Are we just forgetting like the entire first year of Myth? She's gotten a lot better since then but it's not like she was NEVER controversial. I fucking hated her back then with the takamori shit and how any collab with her was basically just a solo stream.

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>>69227476
Gura
The worst is falseflagging the catalog that she's lazy. Yet returning as strong as ever. So much wasted effort for nothing.
She made the normies accept Loli. And is immune to such criticism.

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>>69227476
Sana

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>>69227476
Fuwamoco and Gura, they are literally clean slates

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>>69229899
No one really has any "active controversies" really though. Pretty much everything for awhile has been schizo bullshit.

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>>69230027
Nobody actually cared, holo management just didn’t want to risk it.
>>69227476
Mumei and Ina. I think you need a year+ without controversies for it to really count.
>>69229269
When it was revealed part of Mumei’s break was to help her friend, it took literally all of the heat off her. It’s no exaggeration to say that people love her more now than they ever did. Kiwawa is really controversy free nowadays but there was some time when people /here/ REALLY disliked her. The only time this was even close to happening for Mumei was the Gartic collab.

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>>69230193
The difference is regardless of their flaws we love them all. Holofans can criticise holos without hating them.

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>>69228163
Kiara? She’s made people seethe way more than Fuwamoco, homoniggers included. They were giving her a lot of shit for not collabing with Tempus when they debuted. The most that happened with Fuwamoco is sisters seething that they simply went quiet during the showcase.

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>>69230390
the staying silent thing WAS pretty fucked up, but it's still pretty minor as far as yabs go. They've never acknowledged it and likely either never will or won't for several years, and it'll just be a forgotten footnote in some Ennaschizo's Rentry page.

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>>69230299
I want to rape this daki

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As a fwmc watcher, I have no idea what this homo yab is even about.
I don't watch the men.

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>>69230472
"Was fucked up" lmao no it wasn’t, 99% of viewers didn’t even notice or care, sisters are not just a loud minority but also don’t even watch streams (homostars included)

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>>69230472
Thats absolutely not a controversy. Its normal behavior. FWMC staying quiet in front of homos is absolutely normal and praiseworthy. I cannot imagine a single holofan caring. Just false flaggers.

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>>69230087
You're a black guy, all right.

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>>69230213
>and that caught some attention
Not really. If anything it died out almost instantly because anybody trying to shitpost with that would get mocked or told to watch streams.
>Ina clearly says she's going to avoid social media and limit her internet access while on her break
>Mentions her only contact would mostly be for any collabs happening
>Does exactly that and disappears
>Makes a members post spontaneously a month and a half later updating how things are for her
>Ends it with a comment about leaving her phone at her parent's house so she couldn't talk even though she was thinking about it
>Decides to return two months earlier than anticipated anyway
The whole angle about her being bad for "leaving her phone at home" never made sense but it made for easy spotting of retards trying to find some drama.

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>>69230587
Ok what would your oshi do if they were in FWMC's shoes and ambushed with a bunch of homos on screen suddenly. Unless its bae, i'd expect every single one of them would do the same thing as FWMC.

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>>69227476
The least memorable is the least controversial.

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>>69227476
>>69229159
Can someone explain all the kronii controversies?

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>>69230649
>be a paid spokesman
>refuse to promote product
My oshi would do her job

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>>69230715
To my understanding she wanted to do male colabs against the wishes of the majority of her fanbase. She tried to talk it over with them in member streams and finally decided to make that statement saying that whoever she colabs with his her biz. Leading to a bunch of fans/members feeling demoralised.
A kronii might know best. This thread is good to better understand each other's oshi. No one knows the weaknesses of a holo better than their fans.

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I genuinely don't remember the last time I saw a Mumei bait thread.

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>>69229159
Fauna only triggered schizos. The no friend shit is spammed by one obsessed anti who hated her from pretty much debut, other than a bunch of confused comments from small part of the audience on that very video where it happened it had absolutely zero impact on her growth or general fanbase.

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>>69228163
Kiara? I'm pretty sure she's plenty controversial.

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>>69230715
The two big ones I remember were unicorns pissed that she was ok with collabing with whoever she felt like (including males), and manchildren PISSED OFF BEYOND BELIEF at her for playing minecraft in her spare time off camera (god forbid.) The screeching got so bad that she made a members stream basically naked dogeza'ing chat for solutions on how to be a better streamer. I felt bad for her, but I stopped really following her as a streamer that day for folding so easily to whiny morons.

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>>69230886
Why was the minecraft thing bad? All holos play offstream. There must be more to it.

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>>69230821
>tfw she read my comment (during a snacks video) that she should try Hungarian snacks and realised what I meant
Kinda based desu.

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>>69229047
It was literally said in jest, she came back to it later because she herself thought it came off as too mean. Only then did people grasp at it to try and shitpost.

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>>69227798
Thats just you sister quit making it holo vs holo

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>>69230886
>chat for solutions on how to be a better streamer
Grim.

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>>69228108
She works for chinese game company that alone should count

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I don't agree with those saying Gura.
The problem wasn't that she wasn't streaming (many holos took extended leave at one point or another) but that she simply refused to communicate to her fans about what was happening.
A simple tweet like "I have things I need to take care of, I will not return for a while" would have made wonders for the morale of her fans and I think that the controversy this lack of communication generated definitely counts as a "yab".
It also probably doesn't help that it was probably all caused by a severe bout of depression, which makes you wonder if she is taking care of herself or if there is a risk of a repeat that may end worse.
That said I agree that all the falseflagging was annoying and that anyone who said that she was lazy is an idiot.

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>>69229431
>Frequent Niji (though we’ll see if that changes now) and VShojo collabs
who did she collab with from niji and vshojo?

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>>69230715
The only thing I found shitty about Kronii was that she went back on her word in the most retarded way possible.
>HomoEN comes out
>She collabs with them thinking nothing of it
>People complain LOUDLY at her
>She asks why
>The ones complaining actually explain it to her
>She reads the calm ones explaining why and says she'll compromise
>She'll never do a POV of any homo collabs and "won't ask for them but will accept them"
>Generally accepted by her fans
>Appears a few days alter in a guerilla collab with HomoEN with her own POV
>People freak the fuck out about it and Kronii coincidentally disappears for a week or so after
>When she returns she does the whole "I'll do what I want sweaty :)" tweet and then goes on a collab spree with Magni and Vesper
There as also a guerilla unarchived membership zatsu where she talked about never doing homo collabs at all, but I'm not including it because she was obviously still on the fence about it and still asking for those who disliked them to explain why.

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Did people flip on Ame? She was definitely the correct answer early on.

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>>69228811
>>69228377
>>69229204
>Mumei
This shit with Selen will be her undoing.. Remember, HoloJP treasures its alliance with NijiJP and will compromise everything to keep it. Your oshi might not be here in a couple months.

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>>69231146
ame always angered the numberfags, and they're the ones spending most of their time on catalog

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>>69231146
I heard Ame reacted to her chat passive/agressive a few times. LIke when she refused to complete nier automata and told chat they can just watch another stream that keeps their word.

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>>69227476
Luna is the least controversial, she is unambiguously good. Everybody loves Luna. Luna has literally no antis. Luna is also very very very sexy and cute adult genius.

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>>69231194
This is bait. Go find someone else. This is a holo thread and you won't improve nijiEN rep here. You only have limited time to do your thing. Target the proper threads.

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>>69230801
I think that comment was pretty tone deaf from her, though. She rejected the parasocial aspect of vtubing when a significant amount of content from her is carried by parasocialism. In the very week she had that talk, she had a members only movie watchalong on her schedule and it's not like she does professional movie reviews and deep dives in those streams. I don't mind her saying that she should be more thought of as an entertainer, but I don't see her putting her money where her mouth is.

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>>69230715
This is why people hate Kronii.

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>>69231111
Don’t forget the telling members she wouldn’t interact with them on twitter
Then LITERALLY HOURS later flirting with Vesper on the twitter post of his underwear

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>>69231202
i don't think anon meant flip like the race

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>>69231146
ame's spending her free time gangstalking some poor fella

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>>69227499
PL so bad you get bans for mere allusions

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>>69227476

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>>69231294
I didn't.

Not that I agree with all of the following but these seem like why they'd be out of the running: wigger, hyper-Stacy, (maybe), AWOL until recently, (Ame maybe), (IRys maybe), (Fauna maybe), bitchy/pissed off unicorns, (Mumei maybe), retarded zoomer, menhera/weird, even more retarded zoomer, (Nerissa maybe), targeted FOR retards double-whammy, lolgraduated.

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>>69227476
Ina
She's bland. But who knows what she's like irl. I don't trust kimchi eating fucks. All hail Ayame

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>>69231411
>PL
who could be behind this post

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>>69231194
lmao
hololive was dunking on niji in their official fucking documents
nobody gives a fuck it's all for show

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>>69229159
none of them were spotless if you're not a newfag even Ina called fans losers at one point to make Calli look better

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>>69231454
>All hail Ayame
But Ayame and Ina hung out in Japan

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>>69231450
*first (maybe) being Ina, so: Ina, Ame, IRyS, Fauna, Mumei, Nerissa for the Most Inoffensive Shortlist.

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>>69227476
Probably Ina IMO, but the thing is that's more for her being very mellow and careful in her actions generally (besides that one extremely mild audience jab during mori's guilty gear stream that some fag tried to blow up for months).

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>>69228163
Biboo pisses people off with the rizzler stuff. But the truth of it is that all seethe is equally meaningless, it just varies on the faggot seething in the first place.

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>>69231216
EN you stupid nigger

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>>69231533
What's funny is that wasn't even a jab at the audience. It was mocking someone Mori recognized as an angry spammer trying to backseat them in a fighting game and Ina was just following up on a comment Mori made.

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>>69227798
>70% of holofans are homosisters
numberfag cant even numberfag right

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>>69228163
FWMC "controversy" today is literally the same thing as Kiara "controversy" in 2021. FWMC antis are exactly the type to reply to themselves about 30 times.

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>>69228163
kiara's only controversial if you're one of them sand people

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I remember fwmc having some small dramashit over a dating vn they played or something because they dumped a girl for having depression and said she was too much of a downer and it hurt some ruffian feels

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>>69231254
That comment was only tone deaf if you're autistic as fuck. She's right, she cannot and will not be your friend, she is an entertainer and it's impossible for her to be your friend on any sort of actual personal level. You are one of multiple thousand people watching her, she does not know you on a personal level, and never will.

If you can't get that through your skull that's on you, if you've gone into watching any of these talents thinking you were going to be their friend you're no better than one of the "REEE IF SHE TALKS TO A MAN AT ANY POINT IN HER LIFE SHE'S A THOT" unicorns. They're entertainers, nothing more. You need to sort your shit if that triggers you.

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>>69231088
She’s collabed with Reimu a bunch, Elira once, Pomu once, and Zentreya twice I believe.

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>>69231627
Kiara was saved because mods executed that shizo. It set the tone. If u were a kiara anti u were on the same side as that shizo.

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>>69231457
>the only RL drama worth discussing is the one that favors my oshi

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>>69231720
is your oshi phantom lancer?

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>>69231644
Sure but she''s not turning down those gachikoi bucks, is she?

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>>69231644
>she is an entertainer and it's impossible for her to be your friend on any sort of actual personal level.
well not with that attitude

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>>69227555
>bae
>shiori
Here's the (You) you were so desperate for.

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>>69231832
I was very worried about shiori at launch but now i trust her more than any holoEN.

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>>69231777
No, it’s Einshine

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>>69229047
You don't have to cuddle up to literally everyone. Sometimes telling lunatics to fuck off will have the positive effect of showing that you don't just please everyone for money. Ui even perfected that craft by shitting on her creeps.

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>>69231866
i'm guessing that's some new liver

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>>69231484
she called antis losers, lol
that said, she should definitely be in "triggered schizos" category

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>>69231644
That's a lot of words and strawmanning from someone who didn't read my post beyond the first sentence. I never said any of that shit you're throwing at my head. What I said that she's a bit of a hypocrite in my eyes for the reasons I mentioned, that's it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231914
>cater to creeps
>shit on them
>make a love song karaoke where you row a gondola and stare lovingly at the screen holding a bouquet
Obviously Fauna knows a bit more about this shit than you do

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
Bijou and its not even close

[Anonymous No.]

>>69232094
nice try but read the whole OP, they have to be agreed on as GOOD, not just agreed on

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231866
LMAO

[Anonymous No.]

Lets be honest. State your oshi and 1) what you think she did wrong and 2) what you think she did right even though some people hate her for it. No one knows it better than the fans themselves. I'll start.
Kiara. Wrong. She offended too many people by being insensitive. That limited her appeal as many of these fans consider her a terrible human being. Right. She treated her fanbase well and clearly showed her love for hololive. This led to her cultivating a loyal fanbase.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229518
Caesar's wife must be beyond reproach. The fact that a controversy could be tied to you itself means game over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231864
Nobody is going to watch your 4 boyfriend BBC whore, doesn't matter how much you shill her, faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69232140
Define good. Good is subjective as hell on this board.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229159
so to stop hololiveEN from getting into controversy we need to graduate Mori and Kronii

[Anonymous No.]

>>69232581
I don't agree. They've put their yabs behind them and are good girls now. All of holoEN are good girls now. ALL!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69230760
unless you're oshi is ina because she also falls silent kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69228931
No, Senzawa isn't.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69232976
"Senzawa" isn't a HoloEN, retard. If you wanna go that route then literally all the girls are controversial

[Anonymous No.]

Kiara:
>often interacts personally with fans on twitter and other social media
>only went on hiatus once in all her 3 years of Hololive career and even then she prepared a bunch of videos to be uploaded daily
>is the heart of EN often planning collabs and fun ideas
>has never collabed with men
Reasons why the average /vt/er doesn't like her
>has an annoying voice

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233074
Nigga they have D*MOND*CE in their ranks. Gen | is mad cursed, yo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233289
A takodachi tells me that he feels kiara is the most arrogant person ever and cannot watch her. aS A KFP I never felt that way but its a view that really does exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69232976
Gura's past is literally one of, if not the least controversial of them all. Try again, sis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233364
ain't she OD'd and almost killed herself
or does that not counts as controversial

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
>Mori
hated idol culture at first, got better once saw that cover was shovelling money down her throat for her to sing and dance as a cute anime girl

>Kiara
Failed idol who works the hardest in the whole branch

>Ina
Lewd hating K-woman

>Gura
Alcoholic, her huge breaks are probably because Cover found out she was streaming while drunk and told her to stop it since they market her as disney markets mickey.

>Watson
Works hard to put out her own projects

>IRyS
There is a huge rrat about how she was nepo-hired into cover, I don't want a 3day ban so I won't elaborate

>Fauna
Born to be a mommy, wants to be a pet

>Kroni
Another porn-hating K-woman, but this time with depression

>Mumei
ex-/here/ who dropped all hints she was /here/ after she realized being /here/ ain't that much of a draw

>Bae
Stupid name and can't live up to her lore

>Shiori
Good name and can't live up to the hype her design created. Might have some tangential involvement with the implosion of her last job

>Biboo
Cringy as fuck

>Nerissa
Fake gay

>Fuwawa & Mococo
Fake JP

>Sana
dumb cunt actually chose to keep drawing gatcha art over playing vg for a decent as fuck base salary + SC/Merch money because "her back hurt"


Honestly, Kiara, Watson and Fauna are the best girls, though none of them are my Oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233364
You smell like shit, buddy. Wash your hands. The only non contro of the originals is Ina.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227884
That is just Zoomer
They inherited that from the millennials they watched as they grew up online
Millennials mostly dropped the whole 18 layers of irony once they hit 30, but Zoomers kept going since they haven't hit the "fuck I am 30 years old, I don't give a shit anymore" mentality yet

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233516
>live up to her lore
seriously?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233516
Baez crime is being an Aussie Kiwi bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233505
you niggas always say shit like "oh you should've been there back in the HER discord days people said she was getting shit on because they preferred when she was drunk" I have seen ZERO receipts on ANY of that shit. You would think the biggest vtuber of all time would have the scrutiny to match

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231567
I'm still right you dumb fucking monkey.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231411
It is against the one rule of the board you dribbling retarded ape, and you act surprised. Unalive yourself.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233698
wait what's discord got to do with her pulling a failed an hero

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233516
B-but mommy said "we can't be friends!"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233659
She was marketed as the Embodyment of Chaos, even some of her songs have that angle
She can't be chaotic at all and pales in comparison to true chaos like hachama, even Biboo is more chaotic than Bae

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233516
You're insanely wrong about Kiara (who I like but has some very obvious turn-offs and anti activation flags) BUT I think you've cemented Fauna as the winner.

[Anonymous No.]

Very subtle Holo v Holo thread. I'm sure no Nijitroon is behind this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233815
How am I wrong? Show me someone who is grinding more at EN. Watson got burned the fuck out after a couple of years, Kiara keeps going, so much that I wish I liked her more since she deserves way more than the rest of EN

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
Fauna

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233786
Okay but literally no one in hololive actually gives a fuck about lore except picrel

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233516
>Born to be a mommy, wants to be a pet
That's kinda hot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233761
what's pulling an an-hero got to do with anything she's ever done as gura? she's never even remotely hinted at an OD or a an hero?
This girl could teach a class to CIA agents with how private she is

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233898
Because that's not the fucking OP question!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233898
Are you retarded? The thread is not about who the best or most dedicated EN is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231194
You're a fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

Kuzu Lilianne
/thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233963
>>69233982
And that was my point numbskulls
There is nothing to hate her, she is the posterchild to what every one here wants on an EN girl
Her only fault is that although being exactly what people want, she is not the most popular girl

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233666
m8, you can't be both aussie and a kiwi
you are either from OZ or NZ, you can't be born in both

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231194
It will not happen unless moom deliberately goes out and comments on the situation as Nanashi Mumei. Which will not happen, she is thorough to not mix her Hololive activities with unrelated outside events unnecessarily.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
Least controversial or "uncontroversial" and unambigously good are two completely different things because the least controversial members are uncontroversial mainly because they aren't very relevant like Ina or Mumei. But both of them are towards the bottom of a list of good members of Hololive generally unless you're into paying money to people who don't want to work or acknowledge your existence.

Obviously the most controversial members (Mori, Kiara, Ame, Kronii, Bae) all suck. FuwaMoco would be considered the best to HoloJP fans but they are hated by EN. So Bijou and Fauna are probably the closest to being "good" but it's not really an impressive achievement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233786
That's literally terrific. Only Omega ever cared about lore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234211
What's the diff?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233505
Pure schizoid headcanon but no, being in a bad place emotionally and almost killing yourself is not really grounds for controversy, you fucking psycho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234258
Lore should be a springboard starter package to be used by the holo as she sees fit. Omega didn't understand that. He went too deep. Took it seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234109
She is hated because she loves stirring up drama which is the essence of controversy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234264
one has it's entire fauna trying to kill them, the other shags sheeps

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233786
Why isn't Kanata doing bible verses? not living up to lore
Why don't Korone, Fubuki, Mio bark and growl FWMC do they're not livin up to the lore
Ollie hasn't been commited to an insane asylum her name is KUREIJI not livin up to the lore
I don't think Noel has ever in her life been knighted hell Charles Barkley and Elton John have not livin up to her lore
Flare doesn't live in a forest in fact she says elves should have modern tech and guns NOT LIVIN UP TO HER LORE

you absolute autist

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
>dodges drama from all sides of the spectrum

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234325
Oh, ok. To tired to give any further fucks. Her crime is being a bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234364
>Why don't Korone, Fubuki and Mio Bark and growl
FBK ain't a dog, and korone does bark
Don't watch enough Mio to know if she barks though

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234230
>mumei isn't relevant
Top sub count outside of Myth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234109
The ultimate irony of both Kiara and Bae - everyone wants other girls to work as hard as them, but barely anybody likes those two in particular. They have to work extra to make up for the lack of draw that other members have.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227499
The fact that this is the first reply and nobody's bringing up the Holostar stream she was in (as they shouldn't) is proof to me that it is moom.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229913
Ina triggered the schizos way back when by showing her teeth with that joke about vtuber viewers being lonely losers. "People" refused to drop it for a long time, even making her apologise, even though it was the funniest joke a Holo had made ina long time.

>>69230213
FWMC triggered the schizos by ignoring the homos. Homo fans are not real Hololive fans, and when spoken about in context of the main branch they're generally just a bunch of antis and schizos trying to pull down and destroy Hololive as a whole in service to westoid wokery.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234414
She's been the only EN source of drama this month that I can recall (since everything else has been her best friend).

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234364
Korone's actual lore is working at a bakery. Which comes up precisely never.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234483
Where does this myth that Kiara works hard come from? She was leading the pack trying to undermine Fuwamoco for making her look bad by being the first EN's to give a fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234414
You will never memoryhole this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234535
It did during her 3D debut but after that yeah...nothing much

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227884
ironic that this site full of lolicons balk at the idea of having to spend time with an actual zoomerette

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234496
Ina's apology for that is the only sincere apology I've ever seen from anyone in HoloEN (because it was clear she realized she was describing herself). There are worse things she should be remembered for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69230956
Kronii played a LOT offstream. It was her comfort game and she figured she might as well do it on the official server if she was gonna be playing anyways. She built an efficient fortress filled with resources and organized all neatly and chat felt like she was taking away entertainment that was rightfully theirs. She'd show up sometimes in other people's streams just whiling away on her own and for some reason people were SUPER offended and started hounding her everywhere in youtube comments and twitter, causing that depressing "Chat please tell me exactly what I should be doing in stream I'm writing this down" bullshit, since chat was... chat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234613
>THAT'S DOESN'T
>SHE WAS TRICKED
>BAE LIED TO HER
>SHE STAYED MOSTLY QUIET THE WHOLE STREAM
am I missing any cope?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234414
>So plain that the fanbase forced a whole psycho persona into her to explain her being a bit deadpan
>leaned into it by going "man, that's crazy" and doing absolutely nothing different than before
>fanbase ate it up like crazy

Amazing

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234682
This is absurdly alien to me. I cannot understand this point of view.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234613
It was such an inoffensive stream that Mumei made it out unscathed. The bigger drama would have been homostars being her first JP collab. It went around the shitposters here in /vt/ so Mumei immediately hopped together with Bae and Haachama's minecraft collab in the middle of the night to defuse it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234690
>>69234613
Do you think she doesn't talk to men in her daily life? You think she goes to an all girls college or some shit? What's the difference?

[Anonymous No.]

my holoEN character assessment

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234496
>ina long time
Hello Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234895
They're hiding that they're pregnant from me.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227499
Doesn't her roommate have an actual confirmed bf?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234837
It's absolutely mindboggling how some of you braindead retarded faggots just can't seem to fathom the concept that there are people who dissociate the person from the online persona despite this having been explained to you dipshits a million times already.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234895
Irys is too pon to be a compulsive lier

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233505
Gura did kill herself. Multiple times. We're currently on Gura clone number #13.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235004
>he beliebed the act

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234496
FWMC aren't real holofans or idol culture fans either lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234995
Online personas can't suck a cock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234773
It was right after debut and she was clearly still nervous about everything since she didn't actually stand out in any way. She tried to put on a tough girl "I do what I want" persona but in reality she didn't have an original thought in her body back then and took absolutely every inane thought and comment to heart. It might've been the same stream mentioned in >>69231435 I wouldn't know since I was only a member for the first month or two and quit after this stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234656
lolicon ≠ guy who likes teenage girls with zoomer brainrot

[Anonymous No.]

IRyS the dogs and the rock

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
Hot take, none of them are controversial. /vt/ and twitter faggots seething is not a controversy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
If i was forced to say one, i'd probably have to go with Ina

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234656
Holy shit anon, you are so dumb, holy fucking shit
Even if I give you an olive branch and play ball with your implication that lolicons are pedo, most zoomers of the zoomer gen is over 18 by now.
Gen alpha is the one that is all kids

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234773
She was a terrible streamer but also had the most fans because of her design. It's the side-effect of Hololive's "instantly getting hundreds of thousands of subscribers" effect. Her Minecraft streams were completely intolerable exactly because she was using Minecraft as a game for her as if this was her personal server and not wanting to interact with the other members or the community at all. She wasn't capable of having fun and ultimately never had any fun playing Minecraft even when other infamous Holo autists like Moona tried to reach out to her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234483
It's pretty dire. They are less loved because their debut month was not the best and they had yet to find their respective personas they felt comfortable with, so the normalfags just up and left them for those who were able to create at least a meme for themselves. Kronii was the frontrunner of Council for a while because she dropped a couple ara aras during her debut week and that was enough. Goes to show how shallow a normalfag's thinking is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235423
the Frostpunk streams were choice but the honeymoon ended real quick

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235116
>>69235357
Doesn't matter. The point is most anons want to fuck young girls. Yet most of them can't even stand the zoomer sensibilities of Bijou, a girl who is working a full time day job of appealing to sad lonely weeb autists. Imagine the majority of normal gen Z girls who don't get paid to play pretend.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234895
Kronii definitely should be bumped down a tier with Bae and Kiara. She was never much of a liar, her fans just wanted to tell themselves she was lying because they're seriously ill.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227798
This is the most terminally /here/ post I've seen in a while. Almost nobody hates them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235485
Even when I was a teenager and wanted to fuck other teenagers, I didn't want to hear them talk or give a fuck about their personalities. The only females I ever had serious conversations with as a teenager were in their 20's and 30's.

Also lolicons are into children, which means untainted innocence and thus anyone whose spouting off memes and has used the Internet unsupervised is disqualified from being a loli.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229666
Thanks, Slim Satan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
Mumei

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229687
She was absolutely correct. Parasocial zoomers got mad because they were being told the hard truth. They need to stop pretending like entertainers they watch are their friends. They are not

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235829
The controversy there is she gave a sincere reply to a troll chat and thus implied her entire fanbase were trolls by talking down to them as if they were asking the question.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234895
>kiara not in at least compulsive liar, probably better in actual psychopath tier
ogey
try harder next time lil bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235641
Not him, but gen Alpha won't stop spouting memes out loud
They yell soundbytes of memes they like to each others like some sort of barking code
The worst of all is the "Sexual moan" out of nowhere ""meme"" that has plagued tiktok
Holy shit, kids will just do this moan out of nowhere, out loud, and they all mimmic the first kid who did it, like a bunch of birds
it is annoying as fuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233911
>Nobody cares about lore except the ones who have been the most successful out of anyone in EN by far since they debuted
Gee, I wonder what the reason for their success is? It's almost like people were craving a vtuber who actually sticks to their role instead of just being yet another generic twitchthot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235891
clean your keyboard for the love of fuck schizo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235075
The thing about "idol culture" that's fascinating is what it means to males and females is completely different. It probably doesn't help that EN idol fans are failed idols. The female idol culture fans in vtubing are mostly all completely intolerable, FuwaMoco probably would be as well if not for being saved by kayfabe. Kanata is the most reasonable idol fan in Hololive I'm aware of but because she's a genuine lesbian, she seems like she can relate more to the male perspective.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235939
>Takanashi "speaks before thinking 99% of the time" Kiara
>psychopath
ye sure, buddy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236182
>ogey
>try harder next time lil bro

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235991
Are you actually defending trolls now or just retarded? Do you believe an actual fan sent that obvious bait chat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235947
They all stick to their roles to various extent. Fwmc lore actually doesn't require them pandering to morons as hard as they do (check for yourself there's no "mentally retarded" in their introduction). They just understood that's the quickest path to success.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236219
>controversy
there was never any controversy. you can bark about it for nearly a year now, but you'll never make it stick
and clean your fucking keyboard

[Anonymous No.]

>>69235939
She's a catty bitch and a snake. But she's completely open about it. If psychopath means most likely to stab you to death, then sure but you get what you deserve if you give her that opportunity.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236305
Look schizo, the fact that you are so triggered about it that you are ranting at strangers about your conspiracy theory proves it was a controversy. Nobody gets as mad as you are at "nontroversy".

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233516
>hated idol culture at first, got better once saw that cover was shovelling money down her throat for her to sing and dance as a cute anime girl
She changed her mind about idols before she joined Hololive, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229159
Tweaked this anon's list a little based on feedback. Only one I didn't see that I decided to change was to bump Gura into Actual Controversy, because the fact that she never fucking streams is pretty much the most known thing about her at this point, and she gets openly shit on by even normies for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236462
almost perfect but i'd move gura back down. not streaming isn't a controversy, it's par for the course in holoen

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236462
The only real tier here is "triggered schizos", what's the point of the rest? There were no actual Rushia (or god forbid Niji) level controversies yet. And each one of them had triggered some delusional faggots, that is inevitable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236437
She said otherwise multiple times.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236411
>no argument
>deflection
>making shit up
oh its the classic concession of a faggot
clean your keyboard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236627
All the big controversies in EN are rrats about PL that will get you B& on /vt/ But not on JP, they found out so much dirt on these girls there

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229269
>They ain't as clean as kiwawa
>>63046667
>>65459338
kiara's sins

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236627
Angering her audience vs. triggering schizos is a worthwhile distinction. To pretend Kronii, Mori, Ame and Kiara have never been Niji-tier is laughable. The only complicating factor is how the fuck could someone be a fan of them right up until the point of no return after months/years of warning signs. Once you stick by that long, it does feel unlikely you'd stop being a fan.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233358
takos are faggots and ina is boring as hell

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236739
>PL
go back to talking about your burning company sister

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231645
Zentreya counts as a male collab. Making her the only advent to have done one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236784
>To pretend Kronii, Mori, Ame and Kiara have never been Niji-tier is laughable
They indeed have never been, try harder sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
>one of them is unambiguously good
Uh... Hissssssedddd

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236784
to pretend they've ever been even close to niji-tier is laughable

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236462
No, this is the true list.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69231645
>Reimu, 3 collabs
>Zentreya, 1 collab with Reimu and was supposed to be with Selen aswell before all happened
>Pomu & Elira, 1 collab together with Kiara
>Onigiri, 1 collab

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236814
You forgot the great perocchino

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236784
These two are literally synonyms. If anime girls on the internet anger you, you are a schizo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236975
WTF. I caught a glimpse of it as I was moving tabs. Gave me a mini-heart attack.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234895
extremely biased

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236647
>Multiple times
Proof?

https://youtu.be/Rn-AyoSMIaY?t=75
Milky Queen changed her mind before Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236975
>Hmmmm I can't pin point whats wrong in here
Nvrm

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236462
It is not possible for anyone to be in "Spotless" if the criteria for being in "Triggered Schizos" is the existence of a single pajeet spamming the same thread hundreds times on /vt/.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237070
There's a difference between "schizos who liked the girl getting mad at something she did" and "schizos who didn't like the girl flinging enough shit that people talk about it." It's a pretty major difference.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69236784
Define Niji-tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237070
By your logic if you watch vtubers, you are a schizo. While I agree with this in sentiment, you could just as easily make a list with all vtubers on it saying "defended fervently by schizos who claim she's never done anything wrong in her entire life, even if she disagrees or their defenses become self-contradictory".

[Anonymous No.]

just a casual reminder that we have a bunch of sister from that dox site called in by nijifags here

[Anonymous No.]

Did everybody forget that time Ina called all takos pathetic losers for watching chuubas on a Friday night and how she had to apologize soon after? What about Mumei and dandan? Didn't Cover literally apologise for that? How are those not considered controversies but Biboo being a zoomer is?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237114
>all above is fiction
???

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237293
Kiara aka the biggest nijifag in holo

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237369
Honestly, yeah, most people forgot about those.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237369
That Mumei cover is annoying because it was not controversial at all even though it absolutely should have been. People were trying to find controversy in the mundane things and overlooking the actual controversies. The thread of memes about Mumei dancing to all sorts of things that would have actually been edgy was fun though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237293
almost like the thread seething at kiara getting shit on for her controversies and nijisisters is related...huh, how odd

[Anonymous No.]

>>69229159
Just move the last row up one, everybody's triggered schizos, that's what makes them schizos

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237142
Advent isn't here.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69228387
I guess you do have to be liked or cared about in some capacity to generate controversy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237549
Pro tip: don't even try to shill this ADHD tard anywhere outside your general, bitch is Orcschizo and couldn't be more controversial

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237490
based kiara burning down kurosanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>69234895
Hidin some parts of yourself is clearly the best tier. Having boundaries is what makes hololive great. They are also in hololive to mostly entertain men, so they have to show the sides of themselves men are into more

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237249
Nope, that's your logic. Pretty retarded if you ask me. You can watch vtubers and enjoy their content without caring about what schizos think they did wrong. "Wrong" is a very broad term, unless talking about actual crimes (or maybe obvious breaking of common moral norms), but that rarely ever happens.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237761
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>69237780
Which general, /hlgg/ or /#/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69233358
>>69236788
>the most arrogant person ever
there's a reason as to why the ME ME ME meme for kiara became such a prevalent saying to the point where kiara herself mentioned it and cried 4chan boogeyma on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>69227476
>Almost no widely know YAB or controversy
Ina
IRyS
Fuwamoco

>Some YAB or controversy
Gura

>Significative YAB or controversy
Mori
Ame
Kronii
Bae
Nerissa

>How didn't she quit yet?
Kiara
Fauna
Mumei
Shiori
Bijou

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>>69238045
>Significative
jesas

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>>69237810
>everything they did wrong they didn't do wrong because schizos didn't like it
Take your meds. The healthy view is a nuanced view which is the opposite of your "everything negative is a schizo conspiracy" worldview.

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>>69238045
>ESL, the post
better luck next time NDF

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>>69238045
This legitimately looks like a randomly generated list. Almost nobody is in the right spot. Literally only Ina and Ame.

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>>69234895
I have no fucking idea why Ina is where she is but otherwise pretty accurate list

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>>69238035
you got a link? sounds like good jerk off material

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>>69237001
This whole thread demonstrates that's the only correct list.

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>>69238045
>FWMC
retard alert

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>>69234974
Yeah me

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>>69238111
>"everything negative is a schizo conspiracy" worldview.
This not my worldview, this the reality of HoloEN so far.

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>>69238263
>THEY IGNORED MY HECKIN MALES HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE THAT AS CONTROVERSIAL REEEEEEEEEEEEE
dilate

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>>69238302
Get some help.

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>>69231474
What did they say about Kurosanji?

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>>69238303
It's called lack of professionalism little boy, people have been ranked across the coals for less

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>>69228714
forbidden knowledge

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>>69232245
>She offended too many people by being insensitive
Calling people monkeys isn't insensitive, you're just insecure.

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>>69233516
> >Fauna
> Born to be a mommy, wants to be a pet
My dick got so hard, so fast it almost dislocated my hip

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>>69238359
>ranked across the coals
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT
NDF aren't sending their best, are they?
dilate btw

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>>69238303
blame Mori not me

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>>69233516
>>IRyS
>There is a huge rrat about how she was nepo-hired into cover
Qrd?

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>>69238328
Please provide examples of the opposite. As in yabs that lead to official apologies, suspensions, terminations, law suits etc.

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>>69236575
I think you underestimate just how much seethe there has been over his Gura not streaming. The overwhelming normie opinion has gotten to the point that people think it's shitty of her to not update her fans, and people actually shit on her openly for it while getting a positive reception. The only other time I've ever seen people outside of here openly shitting on a girl and not get attacked for it was when Mori responded to the cuckbeat picture.

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>>69238430
im assuming this is such a massive controversy i dont even know what its about.
or its a sister that needs to dilate and is bringing up nothingburgers
which one...?

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>>69238163
Only if you don't have the knowledge...

>>69238263
There's that moment with the Stars but apart from that their personal and professional lives are as clean as possible

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>>69238623
not gonna spoonfeed you newfag

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>>69238506
The cuckbeat? The horse stuff?

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>>69238679
option 2 then, got it.
make sure to read the instructions thoroughly

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>>69238669
>Only if you don't have the knowledge...
You mean only if I'm not a subhuman doxx faggot?

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>>69238669
Their simps literally called for the disbandment of StarsEN but ok

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>>69227476
Well I know it can't be gura. She was riding my cock the entire time she was gone, and I know that triggers you guys.

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>>69238506
I think the normalfag opinion still is that she has mental problems and burnout, so she should take her time. Anything parasocial is looked down upon. It's hard the get a negative opinion from normalfags in vtubing unless you do some nijien tier shit

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>>69233516
>Might have some tangential involvement with the implosion of her last job
her last job wasnt her fault at all, that whole shit was fucking awful.

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>>69238359
then why is ina came out unscathed

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>>69233289
don’t forget the “ME ME ME” and overall abrasive personality

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>>69238969
based
she wont let you forget it

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>>69238045
Kys

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>>69228651
Bijou's controversy is she talks annoyingly

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>>69235641
>The only females I ever had serious conversations with as a teenager were in their 20's and 30's.
did you sincerely think they were having the same level of seriousness as you and weren't just humoring a child?

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>>69233786
Embodiment* you ESL retard

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>>69238359
I miss pre 2022 when this shithole board wasn’t made even worse by the influx of twitter tr00ns like you

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>>69239080
you spelled kiara wrong

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>>69239080
and being a pathological liar

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>>69239160
>>69239130

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>>69238447
Do you even proofread your own drivel? If an apology is required for something to have been wrong, then virtually no woman has ever been wrong. If you knew anything about the Japanese you'd know they don't give a flying fuck about gaijin and leave them to their own devices (ID is worse than EN in certain ways but also gets no oversight) while JP's have been suspended and forced to naked dogeza for all sorts of things that nobody here would consider wrong because JP controversy is all about saving face.

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>>69239160
That's called kayfabe, moron. You know, that thing you praise the dogs about.

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>>69239120
and I miss when this board wasn't filled with dicksucking underage unicorns

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>>69239248
So no proof, got it. Funny how your company's EN branch is famous for this kind of things, sister.

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>>69239080
I thought her controversy was that she said "Gook" on stream?

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>>69239092
They were a wide variety, when I said serious conversations I should have specified "interactions with actual humans". Some of them were pretty childish, some were fairly maternal, some were severely mentally ill, some were just eccentric but they had all interacted with the real world to some extent and had perspectives about the harsh realities of life. Granted, I would say I was a naive child and if I went back and relived that shit I'd probably think they were extremely immature but I'm already older than most of them were back then.