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>No streams or twitter usage
>Millie is nowhere to be seen either
>Ike is only upholding the schedule he posted before the statement was made
>Enna doesn't give a shit, deflecting any criticism towards the black company

Every naRRATative used to defend Nijisanji / Elira up until the black livestream was dismantled by them outing themselves and now they have no defense
what are they gonna do?

>> No.69186875

>>69186816
Black livestream, black company

>> No.69187212
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69187212

they are going to release nijiEN 2 that no one wanted created by a person who was jealous of tatsuki

>> No.69187318

I know the focus is on Elira but I think Vox really fucked himself too, he's just lucky that his fanbase is insane

>> No.69187412

I honestly think they made that statement without any warning to management. They fucked the PR situation irreparably and Riku is PISSED. He's placed a soft ban on streaming to stop these chucklefucks from making the situation worse

>> No.69187430

>>69187318
Now all he needs to worry about is being seen talking to other women or his fanbase will cut his dick off

>> No.69187591

To be fair, half of NijiEN has been quiet.

>> No.69187668

>>69187318
I'm really curious what his excuse is
as other rrats have delved into Elira has some minor benefit of the doubt due to how much she was managing
Vox was entirely detached from this situation in the public eye, but went out of his way to expose le retard de Vox Akuma

>> No.69187794

>>69187318
>>69187668
and let us not forget how he sounds like he's on the verge of laughing the entire time, constantly saying "as her friend" and claims to have reviewed the documents entirely

by comparison, Elira and Ike really don't say much and their tone is somewhat dejected

>> No.69187940

>>69187412
Riku, as a japanese CEO, went through the humiliation of apologizing to gaijins in their language and doing a 90° bow down to them. But then, three of his idiots employee just wasted his efforts with a stupid video that only added fuel to the fire he was trying to extinguish.
Of course he must be pissed like he may have never been before.

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69188196

>>69187940
Elira is currently getting gangbanged by low ranked yakuza clan members, Vox is cutting his finger to apologize. Filthy westerners get what they deserve

>> No.69188488

>>69188196
>Elira is currently getting gangbanged by low ranked yakuza clan members
Yup, all me

>> No.69188718

>>69187668
People have pointed out that Vox was using his rape asmr voice. Make of that what you will.

>> No.69188872

>>69188718
milord....

>> No.69188917

>>69187940
He already looked like someone in EN managemen was about to have a yatch accident during that video, I can't imagine what his reaction was when he was told immediately afterward that the Three Stooges had released their own statement undermining him

>> No.69189009

>>69186816
Don't care about your thread, but nice pic.

>> No.69190934

>>69187212
Reminder the last episode of KF2 has a scene where Serval NTRs Kaban for the shitty new MC while the OP of S1 plays.

>> No.69192044

>>69187412
Pretty grim that Riku is already deranged enough to pull shit like taking play buttons and sending merch with face on it, yet the 3 stooges got so full of themselves that they managed to make the CEO look like the lesser evil. What'll most likely happen is Riku forces them to make an apology video when things cool down a bit more and takes away all of their management powers to prevent further PR disasters. Nothing will be done about bullying since it is left unchecked on the JP side too, but the clique losing their power should humble them enough that others are less likely to jump ship. EN won't sink because Riku is already under a ton of scrutiny and isn't dumb enough to do anything that will cause shares to take another nosedive.

>> No.69192051

>>69186875
But they're all Asians, anon

>> No.69192101

>>69186816
They’re figuring out their next move

>> No.69192247
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69192247

The signs were there all the way back to when Fulgur and Vox tried to shit on Hololive

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>>69186816

>> No.69192433

>>69192352
Never ask Vox and Enna*

>> No.69192444

>>69192247
Mysta's sudden venting will never not be the funniest thing ever but it credibility to what he said recently about how a lot of skeletons are going to come out of the closet, he's seen their shit first hand

>> No.69192489

>>69192352
What did he do with minors?

>> No.69192515
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69192515

Reposting my thoughts.
Guys, do you remember who was terminated before Zaion? Yugo. What connects Zaion and Yugo? They are both Japanese and they weren't part of Elira's clique.
From the ccv scolding leak we know that Yugo was contacting JP management directly, bypassing Elira. That might have been the real reason for his termination. From False we know they wanted to Zaion him but he lawyered up and left amicably.
It all clicks together.
Other Japanese speaking livers are Petra (but she's a huge Nijisanji fan and not a rebel, not sure if she's in the clique but she could definitely be whipped by Elira to be obedient) and Shu who is Elira's simp and nepo-hire. Elira wanted to have full control over communication between livers and higher ups. Yugo and Zaion weren't cooperating so she got rid of them.

Selen got in real trouble for the first time in May and what did she do back then? Complain about not being able to have an assistant to communicate better. (pic rel) Such assistant would be bypassing Elira and she would lose control over Selen.
Now think of the termination notice - we were never explained what those "Activity Rules" are. We thought it was some kind of insubordination but now I'm thinking that her real crime was expressing the will to take actions outside of clique's influence. Again. Elira wanted to have full control over communication between livers and higher ups.

>> No.69192535

>>69192352
>>69192433
Enna would take out her phone and start showing you her CP collection while drooling
>"This child is my favourite one"

>> No.69192588

>>69192044
Aren't they in Japan? Chances that Riku is giving them a stern talking to in person after that disaster?

>> No.69192605

>>69192044
I still hope for the comical theory that the one hording the buttons was actually Elira so if/when the JP bust hits, the talents all get their play buttons.

>> No.69192639

>>69192535
this is why I would never ask her, because i don't want to be an accessory to a crime.

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>>69192489

>> No.69192711

>>69192605
Not even NijiJPs get their buttons, anon

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69192774

>>69192605
We knew about buttons before EN branch existed.

>> No.69192785

The fag belongs to Elira so he's a non-factor, and right now Elira is throating Riku's dick, pleasuring him as much as a sex slave can do to convince him to not fold NijiEN

>> No.69192985

>>69192515
In a previous rrat thread someone noticed that Alban suddenly worked super hard at improving his Japanese and had a whole arc where he was basically NijiJP for a month or two, networking on their servers, and also networking outside the company (getting the first Holo/Niji EN collabd, even.)

Did catboy see the example the clique made of his wavemate and try to solidify his position outside of their sphere of influence?

>> No.69193203

>>69192698
NO FUCKING WAY. Vox was a freak to minors? And Niji still hired him? What the fuck.

>> No.69193596

>>69186816
Subscriber status?

>> No.69193711

>>69192985
>had
how did it stop? I never watched him.

>> No.69193862

>>69192698
I keep hearing this got debunked though, and he was also a minor at the time all this bullfuck happened

big yab if true tho

>> No.69194017

>>69186816
vox has unironically been farming bosses in osrs almost constantly since the announcement. His sleep schedule is pretty fucked too.

>> No.69194139

Does anyone else share my frustration with the lack of loyalty and gratitude among these women? This company bestowed upon them a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, elevating them to wealth and fame. Yet instead of expressing gratitude, they criticize the company and depart, leveraging their sizable fanbase to pursue independent endeavors. They fail to recognize that without the company's support, they would never have achieved such prominence on their own.

>> No.69194205

>>69193862
No one debunked rape ASMRs etc tho
Also whole "debunk" looks like damage control too

>> No.69194227

>>69194139
Shut the fuck up Millie

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>>69194139
>This company bestowed upon them a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity

>> No.69194619

>>69194017
if this is true then its probably his way of coping, fucked sleep schedule alongside the grinding means hes still stressed as fuck though

>> No.69194749

>>69193711
Unfortunately I think pressure from his own yumes, he made a NijiKR friend and they fucking HATED her. Daily meltdowns on the sister doxxsite about it, was fucking ridiculous to read.
The period itself was last winter season, the 22-23 year change. He was also in Japan for vacation/presumably AR live reasons, but that got cancelled AND Yugo got fired same winter season, so overall that season wasn't great for Noctyx as a whole.
So, overall, I think pressure from his yumes + leaving Japan ended the arc.

This really isn't necessarily related, nor is there any evidence really - man keeps his head down and stays in his own lane for the most part. But it is an observation that he had a short burst of interesting networking.

>> No.69194826

>>69193862
if anything, the existence of the alleged yab just proves he's stupid and short-sighted.
man is so fucking dumb he set himself up from the beginning for yume joshi psychos
he read horny tweets on stream within his first week iirc

>> No.69194904

The gurrat was fun at first but now I feel like I’ve been cursed with knowledge and woulda been happier just not digging and watching things play out. But it’s not even the curse of knowledge, it’s potential speculative knowledge that we may not even get any resolution on for months. I just hope Doki’s finally allowed to actually chill and i can watch her since she seems actually fun.
It’s exciting when it’s new big drama and it looks like everything’s falling apart but it’scjust depressing when it settles and we just have to sit with it until something happens.

>> No.69195074

>>69192774
Considering how many Youtube channels are a group effort in some way, be it like Holo/Niji or just two or three people running one channel, you'd think that Youtube would let you get multiples of the silver/gold play buttons.

Sure does sum up the different company cultures in a nutshell that Niji keeps them at the office while Holo gives them to the actual members.

>> No.69195218

>>69195074
>you'd think that Youtube would let you get multiples of the silver/gold play buttons
They do allow that, but you have to pay for the duplicates. Only the one you earn for crossing that particular subscriber threshold is free.

>> No.69195230

>>69195074
That's the thing, you can. It's $150 per extra play button or so. Multi-billion dollar corpo Niji said "that shit's too rich for my blood" and keeps them all, however.

>> No.69195267

>>69188196
>>69188488
はい、私は

>> No.69195281

>>69194904
id rather not hear about new drama related to this for the next few months
the only next steps are either a proper court case and things get addressed with professionalism, or there's going to be a public execution

>> No.69195355

>>69195074
>you'd think that Youtube would let you get multiples of the silver/gold play buttons.

You buy the button, you can buy multiples. FuwaMoco have two. Merryweather bought like 30+ buttons to give to all of his staff.

Riku is literally buying a single play button and keeping it himself for each channel. Cheap bastard won't buy a second button for the talent.

>> No.69195361

>>69192985
Is this also a good time to point out that the majority of NijiEN collabs with Hololive/Holostars are from outside the clique?

>> No.69195466

>>69195361

gee i wonder why... >>69192247

>> No.69195563

>>69195361
The collabs with Holopro members must've been an eye opener for them.
>Wait, these people are nice and easy to get along with. Why isn't it like this in Nijisanji EN?

>> No.69195603

>>69195361
I was wondering about this. Kiara and pomu. Alban and the boys. Owl and doki. The I don't get is Nerissa and Reimu? Is Reimu in or does she have immunity through penguin?

>> No.69195883

>>69195603
People forgot Pomu & Elira + Kiara & Nerissa collab

>> No.69195901

>>69195603
Well Reimu is an utaite. She probably knew Nerissa before EN branches existed?

>> No.69195998

>>69192985
That or he wanted to be able to communicate with management directly.

This would imply that he wouldn't know that the Elira clique is purposely bottlenecking information amd that he doesn't know that he's next on the termination block if he communicates directly with managers.

>> No.69196063

>>69195361
I speculated in an earlier thread that the whole reason why the ban on NijiEN/Holo collabs (which we *know* was from NijiEN's end) existed for the first year the branch was around may have been because at first the only Niji members who Holomems wanted to collab with were on the clique's shit list (Pomu and Selen, both of whom had PL friends in Holo) and they begrudgingly lifted the ban once Tempus came around and wanted to collab with some of the Niji members who weren't on said shit list.

>> No.69196143

>>69195883
Elira putting herself where she's not wanted

>> No.69196251

>>69195267
>私は
>俺無い
終わりです卍

>> No.69196280

>>69193862
The "debunk" is that one of the kids he was flirting sexually with was 14 when he was 16. It ignores the other, who was 12 at the time.
Basically they are trying to sweep it under the rug since he was a minor

>> No.69196342

>>69195901
I think this is why. It probably also explains the collabs she’s done with Shiki Miyoshino

>> No.69196354

>>69196063

Remember this event >>69192247 led to Holo management reaching out to Niji management on the JP side. Discussions between both managements led to the defamation partnership as well as eventually opening the collab partnership.

It was only after JP management got involved form the controversy that things started moving forward.

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>>69195218
>>69195230
>>69195355
It's actually worse cause the organs themselves can't even pay for their play button out of pocket if they want one.

>> No.69196638

>>69195603
Maybe Reimu isn’t as involved as the others. That Lethal Company collab with Nerissa and Zentreya was originally supposed have Selen as well, but she was hospitalized due to the suicide attempt.
>>69196063
The biggest snag there is that Enna would leap at the chance to collab with Mori, but maybe she just assumed that that wasn’t going to work. Would explain why she’s kept her distance as well.

>> No.69196798

>>69196063
Pomu was friends with the clique in her PL.

>> No.69197104

>>69195361
Kiara in particular had some interesting collabs
see >>69047962
>met with Elira, Nina, Petra and Roesmi
I guess this was either Kiara testing the waters after she heard some shit from Pomu or the clique approaching her to teach her the "other Activity Rules".

There also was Morning with Fox Mom episode with Kiara.

>> No.69197219

>>69197104
Kiara's experience in Idol culture could not prepare her for the cattiness of the Clique

>> No.69197627

Several livers have been contacting influencers, particularly streamers and some twitter personalities.
Expect a concerted "Exposé" once/if they get the okay from central.

Riku is quite upset, and we are in the middle of an internal investigation. There will probably be restructuring in the EN branch. Livers have been instructed to go-on as usual if they can, while making sure to control their chat and fans. Livers have been instructed that any and all allusions to current events or any remarks regarding recent events can be grounds for suspension. One liver was already reprimanded, but they were not actioned against.
The PR managers that provided the debriefing effectively stated "If you are confident you can control your fans and communities, as well as your own remarks and interactions, please go back to streaming as soon as possible. Otherwise, you are free to wait, provided you don't remark about current events on social media, using corporate or personal accounts." One liver was provided with an example on what not to do, and it was about a comment made on a Past Life account. They were not really reprimanded, but they were made aware that even that is not permissible.
A lot of confusion, still, but from various conversations I've had, I get the feeling a lot of livers want to get back to normal and continue with their schedule and projects.

>> No.69197702

>>69195883
Haha you're right, I don't watch neither Nerissa nor Kiara. I gave up on Elira back when she shared that Uber ride story when she was harassing the drivers asking him about boobs. Pomu... I think the last time I actually watched her was that 4 streams in one.

>> No.69197819

>>69197627
Was Fulgur bonked by management or was that sanctioned?

>> No.69197982

>>69187318
Vox already lost a lot of goodwill through earlier yabs, Elira was mostly clean so she's taking the brunt of this one

>> No.69198143

>>69197819
The latter.

>> No.69198192

>>69197104
>The clique gave Kiara the wrong date
Fuck, it kinda makes sense.

>> No.69198313

>>69197982
If only his PL yabs get more traction. Still doesn't make much headway due to his Han drone army

>>69198192
It totally makes sense. One last kick in the door to Pomu for being an ungrateful bitch and taking the easy way out instead of being lazy coasting with gaming like the rest of the clique

>> No.69198356

>>69194139
Can you stop spamming this everywhere? It's annoying and noone believes it

>> No.69198690

>>69197104
Elira seemed to have some interest in Kiara, she even paid for her ride when they met up. My rrat is that she wanted to expand her clique and have allies in HoloEN (Kiara but also maybe Nerissa)

>> No.69198757

>>69198313
I don't think anyone mentioned it
as we were quite focused on the Termination notices/responses before but they are likely responsible for all whitepapers.
That means the Graduation notices dropping before the promised time and with wrong information is part of the harassment campaign too.

>> No.69198893

>>69198690
Or to get her to possibly leak some info remember all of niji en is has this place in the back of their heads 24/7 and she could have leaked that info here to sabotage holoen or some shit

>> No.69199000

>>69197627
>Expect a concerted "Exposé"
I REFUSE to believe for even a second that, assuming direct "takeover" and cleanup from Anycolor central, they are going to let anyone go out in public again instead of acting like adults and settling the matter in private with lawyers.

>> No.69199033

>>69198757
I remember hearing about how scuffed the graduation was. It only works to support the gurrat

>> No.69199134
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69199134

>>69186816
PRAISE RAT KING

>> No.69199155

>>69186875
>>69192051
Blacked Asians

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>>69187412
>>69187940

>> No.69199270

>>69199000
If anyone is doing it, it's going to be some rogue liver who is hoping to throw everyone else under the bus before the yacht sinks.

>> No.69199272

Reconstructed (as of now) timeline of events, according to the GURRAT:
>NijisanjiEN was founded in 2020 with its own dedicated management team. Said team left the company to start a NFT venture in December of that year. Ex-NijiIN member Noor is then put in charge to fill their place, so from almost the beginning it was talents managing talents.
>>/vt/thread/68273408#p68280109
>The first set of auditions resulted in 6 members being contracted, though only 3 debuted at first under Lazulight, one of those members was Elira, whose knowledge of the japanese language seemingly gained her the favoritism from the higher-ups early on, as indicated by the company letting her choose the theme for her second outfit while Pomu hadn’t such a benefit.
>>/vt/thread/69142853#p69147004
>Said favoritism also translated into Elira getting more merch released than any other member of Lazulight.
>>/vt/thread/68996770#p69009739
>The second set of auditions was for the third and fourth waves. The third wave is Ethyria, which contains two of Elira’s PL friends, Enna and Millie, indicating that they may have been hired through nepotism, a testament to the influence of Elira inside the branch.
>As the branch grew in members, Elira would need some sort of assistance to forward communications between it and the japanese side, and so Enna and Millie, who also speak the language, became involved in the process.
>>/vt/thread/69014403#p69023271
>Jumping straight to 2023, Noor is replaced with Yasuhiro Harry Igarashi as head of management for NijisanjiEN, somebody who treats this position as a part-time job, meaning that he is less involved with the branch than Noor, which left a power vacuum that Elira and her friends could monopolize for themselves.
>>/vt/thread/68033404#p68043182
>May 23rd of 2023, Selen misses the deadline for the recording of a voice pack and mentions wanting a representative so it wouldn’t happen again. Getting a representative would incite other members to do the same, making Elira’s role as a translator between the EN branch and Anycolor pointless. And so, Elira possibly proceeded to convince management proper (she’s ''shadow management'', a liaison, after all) to suspend Selen and have her given the warning that one more infraction would mean that she’s out of the company.
>>/vt/thread/69142853#p69142989
>In the months that followed, Elira appears to have done an internal smear campaign against Selen, trying to convince most of the members of the branch to get rid of her. And as such, would attempt to isolate Selen from the rest of the company as much as she could.
>This isn’t the first time they harassed a member to make them leave the company as proved by this screenshot: >>/vt/thread/68412484#p68438814
>December 2023, the shitfest involving Selen’s MV occurs. Selen attemps suicide after continuous harassment from other members and Elira has to assume responsibility, so in the 27th she announced to the public she would have to to take care of affairs involving health issues in her family, as a way to cover what really had transpired behind closed doors.
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129835
>>/vt/thread/69036707#p69039165
>In a membership stream, Elira would link the health issues tweet with her dog. A dog that hasn’t been mentioned ever before, leading to the supposition that it was a roundabout way of saying that she views Selen as a female dog, in other words a bitch.
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129671
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129854
>February 13th, 2023, Elira releases the now infamous ‘‘A Message From NIJISANJI EN’’ video. She mentions having read the legal documents about Selen/Doki’s case, even though it was only meant to be seen by Dokibird, her lawyers, and Anycolor’s management. The only way she could have gotten ahold of them it’s if she was involved with management herself. With her being the primary translator between members of the EN branch and the japanese higher-ups, it isn’t unexpected that the japanese would rely on her to translate the contents of the documents.
>>/vt/thread/68996770#p68999584
Take into account that each member have their side of their story and so, as they may come forward with their versions, there could arise contradictory or previously unknown details. For example, Pomu was possibly in friendly terms with Elira until the end of her tenure at NijisanjiEN, with her discontent seemingly stemming from conflicts with proper management: >>/vt/thread/68033404#p68035166

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69199291

>>69199134
eesh, this one could use a cleanup, also a merger with the Elira focused one that shows the merch favoritism

>> No.69199525

>>69199134
>>69199241
>>69199291
Wouldn't be surprised if there's several non-cliques that are so broke and in debt from paying out of pocket for projects that they're too broke to quit.

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>>69199134
>>69199291
All hail the Grand Unified Rrat.
https://rentry.org/thegodrrat

>> No.69199673

>>69192515
Or here me out. Selen keeps missing deadlines then acting like it's everyone's fault but her own making the company look bad. Does no one here have a functioning brain? I'm I being trolled or is everyone actually this retarded?

>> No.69199761

>>69199673
You're actually this retarded.

>> No.69199773

>>69199673
Fuck off landwhale

>> No.69199839

>>69187212
>both named Tatsuki
>both had the company send talent out to talk shit
>both companies burned all good will in a matter of days
It's like pottery

>> No.69199858

If some nijien livers are /here/ what do you think their reaction to the gurrat is? Would love if some of them take a second and dots start connecting in their heads.
>"Wait...is THAT why my project didn't go through?!"

>> No.69199956

https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/comments/1arm8ii/psa_beware_of_misinformation_being_spread_by_a/
https://www.reddit.com/r/VirtualYoutubers/comments/1apvtmf/comment/kqm57gd/
Lmao nijisisters failed again

>> No.69200062

>>69199673
Having a 24 hour deadline is what makes the company look bad, dumbfuck.

>> No.69200198

>>69197819
Likely npy bonked but told not to do it again since it was understandable

>> No.69200251

>>69199673
>here me out
>here me
>here

Millie fuck off for fucks sake!

>> No.69200312

>>69198690
Didn’t she also go out to lunch with Mori and Bae? Considering how Bae speaks to Mumei daily, I don’t think she’s getting invited again.

>> No.69200319

>>69198757
Who had fucked up graduation notices? I wanna know which non terminated livers were being harasses by the clique

>> No.69200477

>>69199673
Learn English, you ESL shitskin and/or chink

>> No.69200537

>>69199000
Informant actually post checks out.
Several of the previous informant posts also mentioned about things being revealed soon.
False stated he'll drop the bomb "in a couple of weeks"

I also have a schizo-rrat that he was dropping hints in one of his twitch VODs:

>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2060309682?t=4h3m10s
>"Man, why is that commerce so high *laughs*. How can they claim[!] earnings that high on commerce? That's a huge chunk! Where are they getting it all from?
>Well, well, well.
>[...]
>The most hilarious thing to me is the people would like to point out "look how much they earn in merch, they are doing great!"
>And it's like you don't understand what I was saying.
>Yeah, it's going to them[!] not going to some other people..."

So he could be full of shit, but after the merch redirection rrat came together this looks sus.

There is another section before that
where he show numbers and emphisis how low they actually for years.
>https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2060309682?t=2h21m3s

I know hardcore fans spend a lot on their oshis, but can they really compensate the a huge drop in numbers with barely a drop in merch earnings?

Didn't want to commit to the embezzlement rrat before but now I am not sure...

>> No.69200679

>>69197627
I don't believe you that they'll do an expose. That'd be the most childish move I've ever seen. If they follow proper orders here, they'd keep quiet and shut up. Maybe they realized that they want to clear their name and reputation.

I guess that's a fair motivation. I can see you be a legitimate leaker. The corpo control is real after all

>> No.69200835

>>69200319
Pomu had a bunch of mistakes on hers and Kyo had his backdated to 2023.

>> No.69200857

>>69200537
EMBEZZLEMENT RRAT ISREAL???

>> No.69200872

>>69199241
jesus christ this is fucking retarded, ah yes a japanese company gave control of an entire branch to a bunch of there contractors. I swear this board competes with /pol/ in terms of stupidity.

>> No.69200921

>>69200835
Pomu is malicious, forgetting to change the year could be a legitimate oversight given how stupid Elira clique is

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>>69199773
How dare you just look how cute I am.

>> No.69201002

>>69186816
If the three musketeers can't even say goodbye in Kyo's graduation stream tomorrow, then it will solidify the rrat that they are in big trouble.

>> No.69201073

>>69200923
Indeed cute chub

>> No.69201114

>>69200872
So true bestie, slay

>> No.69201175

>>69201002
Omg, making a checklist of who shows up to Kyo's grad would be great data for us to have

>> No.69201198

>>69200923
She looks like my ex

>> No.69201213

>>69200872
>there
lmao retard

>> No.69201221

>>69199858
yup, internally NijiEN is in a civil war right now. The reason why they are all awfully quiet on social media is because they are screaming and throwing steel chairs at each other in backstage.

>> No.69201308

>>69200923
>uncut
>my oshi is also uncut (her eyelids)

WE ARE

>> No.69201317

>>69200537
I honestly just think False is the "insider" thats been dropping hints here. If I had any inkling of wrongdoing, Id dripfeed the info here, that makes for good content for my inevitable video on the subject.

>> No.69201331

>>69186816
it's over for you Vox! get fucked nigger

>> No.69201360

>>69200857
Doubt it. At worst the clique probably worked towards sabotaging others from getting rewarded with collabs and merch, and prioritizing everything that would result in their financial gain.

>>69200872
And going off of that, they wouldn't need control to do it. All JP needs to be dumb enough to do is not have any English literate managers. The moment they become reliant on Elira for translations and communication, that gives her clique the power to fuck with other livers. None of these rrats are new though, just reiterating what I thought makes sense.

>> No.69201397

>>69197627
>Expect a concerted "Exposé" once/if they get the okay from central.
What does this mean? A fucking expose on someone who fucked up? I'm a little bit confused.

OH MY FUCKING GOD, ARE THEY TRYING TO EXPOSE DOKI????

>> No.69201416

>>69201317
It's not only him, but probably 10 other people that are pissed off about NijiEN's current situation, including even livers

>> No.69201476

>>69201221
Omg, I feel real bad for those realizing they're being screwed over by people they considered friends...

>> No.69201536

>>69192247
Holobronies holding a grudge over this is pathetic and only makes it easier to discredit the rest of us as "angry Hololive fanboys". Fulgur isn't even a clique member for fucks sake.

>> No.69201559

>>69201317
Khyo and Nux apparently also have insider info so I'm waiting for them to drop some hints either intentionally or accidentally

>> No.69201607

>>69200923
actually adorable 10/10 would be friends with and shit talk each other.

>> No.69201640

>>69201416
DROP THE RRATS!!!

>> No.69201685

>SEA morning hours before work/classes
>doxxsite sister postin x100

>> No.69201739
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>>69199673

>> No.69201797

>>69201317
One of False's video thumbnails on recent events had Enna's face for no discernable reason, even before the "message from NijisanjiEN" hit. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a hint/dogwhistle to what he knows, if limited, to the true going-ons.

>> No.69201919

>>69201797
Now we have to analyze false's videos. Follow the RRATS

>> No.69201928

>>69201797
Enna's had rumours swirling since her debut, for no other reason than because she has an attitude problem and that rubs people the wrong way. The moment there's wind of wrongdoing everyone starts by blaming her. Only this time it turns out they were actually right.

>> No.69202047

>>69201797
I wonder if Enna is the true mastermind and Elira is just the face. Would make sense that other livers would trust Elira's word but not Enna's despite being in the same clique

>> No.69202051

>>69201397
I actually believe Riku, BlackCompany, and EN Livers are so mad that they'll try to create an expose on Doki in the future now. I do not know who else they want to expose someone but their only antagonist is Doki.

I'm actually genuinely shocked if this turns out to be true because the internet is mad towards the conduct of the termination method. We can all forgive the retardedness of Doki because you all went nuclear on her in early February.

I swear to god, this is the worst mistake you'll ever do if you bring this to the public. Do not do this. This is career suicide and getting blacklisted from streaming in general...

>> No.69202119

>>69201797
>>69201919

FALSE PUT ME IN THE VIDEO!

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>>69197627
Poor guy. I knew he was oddly placed there

My nigga, you need to exit this hellhole asap and apply to Homostars. You're a waaaay better fit there and I could see you perfectly being best pals with Shinri

>> No.69202201

>>69202051
Riku had a solid PR video, he might be an asshole but he's smarter than that.

>> No.69202263

>>69202179
>fit
Are you sure lol

>> No.69202269

>>69199270
I think it’d be more likely livers pissed at their reputation decline and wanting to change the public narrative no matter what

>> No.69202282

>>69202051
Creating an expose on someone who was harassed into breaking rules and leaving the company is such a stupid idea.

They should focus on cleaning up inner shit instead of trying to garner any sort of sympath6 by painting Doki as a villain

>> No.69202369

>>69202269
Anyone part of that is 100% exposed as being part of the clique and everyone else gets autoexonerated

>> No.69202408

>>69202201
His PR team is smart. He just owns the company, and he's pissed knowing there's mold in the vents

>> No.69202456

>>69202051
>>69202201
>>69202269
>>69202282
If the expose thing is true, then it's 100% the clique doing it behind management's back. Riku is mad yes, but Elira must be fuming at Doki becoming more popular and loved than she ever was. Doki may have BPD but Elira definitely and 100% has NPD.

>> No.69202475

>>69197627
I belive this 39daph or whoever was leaking all that "They have proof and are going to sue her so sad she was suicidal but screw her" crap was a dry run.

She's Kyo Kaneko's friend, Matara and Ironmouse who usually can't stfu haven't said anything pro-Doki or at all really.

It's obvious the clique is circling the wagons. We all saw Mean girls. They have to get the last word even if it means taking everyone down with them.

>> No.69202600

>>69202179
fishman, poach him as a solo debut please

>> No.69202615

>>69202456
I honestly hope they do because it would be so fucking funny but I don't want them to doxx Doki like they did Zaion...

>> No.69202636

Crazy Rich Asians starring Elira, Millie, and Enna

>> No.69202650

>>69202047
Enna is a sociopath and willing to go farther than even Elira in using/abusing people, but doesn't have a head for leadership. She's the Joe Pesci character in mob films.

>> No.69202688

>>69186816
>Millie is nowhere to be seen either
she's still active on membership

>> No.69202727

>>69202475
I think it's more like Crazy Rich Asians out there than Mean Girls not enough white people you feel me?

>> No.69202739

>>69200872
For the love of god learn your there-their-hear-here if you’re gonna shitpost here Millie

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>>69202615
I paid my first supa today since I was in a good mood I want to see this shitty company burn so i can spend money on Scarle without her being Scarle

>> No.69202797

>>69202650
So Elira didn't want Doki to die but Enna couldn't give a shit is what I'm hearing...

>> No.69202826

>>69187318
>his fanbase is insane
That's an understatement considering the fact that they're defending his grooming of actual real life 12 year olds

>> No.69202894

>>69202456
>Elira must be fuming at Doki becoming more popular and loved than she ever was
I believe this, but after getting a reality check with her black screen message reception being the exact opposite of what she had hoped for, I doubt there's still enough spite left in her to go through with further exposes. I buy the rrat that she's more incompetent than she is malicious. Any further character assassination attempts at this point will be linked right back to their clique regardless of the channel it comes from. What's coming would more likely be an expose on mismagement from the livers who wanted nothing to do with their power tripping and finally have an opportunity to make it known and expedite a restructuring.

>> No.69202919

>>69200537
>>69200857
horee shit
insider-anon I kneel

>> No.69202955

>>69202797
Why do you think she was hyperventilating out of happiness out of the blue around the 15th?

>> No.69202969

>>69201397
Not like they have a choice. 'We're the good guys' narrative doesn't work for them so they have to die on the 'She's the villain here' hill.

>> No.69202992

>>69202456
They can't do it behind their back because they're requesting it from central whom is implied to be AnyColor Central / Main HQ in Japan. This is 100% a coordinated effort by Elira's clique to smear Doki AGAIN. They really are BULLIES. Holy fuck, if I see a retarded expose video from a retarded influencer, I genuinely hope the internet fights back because this is ugly

>> No.69203008

>>69200835
Didn't they give Kiara the wrong date to say goodbye to Pomu but she double checked with her manager?

>> No.69203031

>>69202650
I wouldn't be surprised if she was willing to doxx Selen in the expose they supposedly want to make...

I honestly hope that the clique is as big as 10 people so that if they did an expose together the slightly less malicious people could reel her in

>> No.69203032

>>69202456
Of course they’re fuming, their reputation is in the mud while doki is streaming for high numbers. Emotionally speaking they’d want doki to eat dirt and for them to be seen as the victims instead.

>> No.69203068

>>69202600
And give him a super gay wuxia-esque model this time. That cyberfunk shit didn't do much favors

>> No.69203132 [DELETED] 

>>69197627

>> No.69203159

>>69202456
Elira doesn't have NPD. She's actually a perfectly normal person with "powertrip + envy little bitch" issues

t. I have family members with NPD

>> No.69203161

>>69202894
They may be dumb enough to think that they really are in the right here, and that they simply didn't show enough 'evidence', and so are preparing to triple-down.

>> No.69203163

>>69203032
She's also getting collabs despite everything while Elira lost about a year's worth of subs.

>> No.69203177

>>69202727
it's "crazy rich asians" but all the asians are wannabe white mean girls who didn't get into the clique in highschool so they're taking it out on a fucking vtubing group because they're just that retarded and ego-tripping

>> No.69203179

>>69202894
There's a very good possibility that they're blinded by rage and will try even harder. They doubled down further and further without admitting fault. I genuinely believe they probably think that they've done nothing wrong and will push forward as such. This is my motivation rrat for this retarded move if it happens

>> No.69203213

>>69202992
I just wonder if Anycolor still trusts Elira enough to let them do it

>> No.69203307

>>69186816
They are going to be Chae Ara of NijiEN

>> No.69203338

>>69192247
I honestly don't understand how people think council is a failure. Sure they don't have as many subs but they still have a lot of viewers and donators. The only thing good about dead sub is padding for the plaques and Niji doesn't even get those.

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>> No.69203397

>>69201397
>>69202051
>>69202475
It's going to be so fucking hilarious if so
>Hey drama-man, I'm not-Elira and have the receipts to prove that Selen was a menhera psycho and we were totally justified in forcing her out of the company, it was for the good of everyone
>Alright bae I gotchu, leave it to me

Two weeks later:
>Whaaaaaaaaats up ladies and gents, today we have NEW information straight from the source! The rumors that Doki was being bullied and harassed in Nijisanji was... ACTUALLY TRUE? We have proof right here straight from Elira's mouth herself! You know what they say people, why have enemies when you have 'friends' like these?

Remember a certain cat trusted korekore too so
DO IT
Clique if you're reading this DO IT

>> No.69203404

>>69203213
She's probably burning a lot of her remaining good will, though it does depend on exactly how much influence she ever actually had.
Though even if Niji is trying to get them all to shut up, the livers do still have a private discord to coordinate, and if they're working with a 3rd party to try and put out a hit piece, then they might be able to work out some plausible deniability if management can't prove who leaked things.

>> No.69203488

>>69202969
But if the “harassment” claims were overblown wouldn’t you too want to clear your name? Selen took the narrative with her attempt and ran with it but it’s possible her attempt wasn’t actually any liver’s fault and on her own mental health. Imagine if the weird girl at the company who nobody likes tries to kill herself and then tries to blame everyone else for that, that doesn’t suddenly mean the weird girl was wronged and everyone else was harassing her.

>> No.69203496

>>69202456
If Riku is fuming, PR-teams actually exists and they need a clear from central, it would more likely be throwing the powertripping clique under the bus.
If they go after Doki again, everyone in Anycolor are unironically insane. This case is so long away from only being about her at this point.

>> No.69203494

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW11uRvJvf8

And eventually every relationship ends
So, throw out your baby and murder your friends

>> No.69203510

>>69203397
This is what I want to happen

>> No.69203527

>>69203397
>She was BETRAYED
>As we go over to NijisanjiEN's Elira Pendora who has confessed to sabotaging Selen Tatsuki, now Dokibird, Pomu Rainpuff, Maria Marionette, and even Finana Ryuugu!

>> No.69203531

>>69203032
The difference between then and now is that by now, Riku's yakuza has probably given her a thorough dicking. The entire EN is under the microscope now. If she isn't already on a short leash for making Riku look like a fool, she has to be aware that anything else that comes out will be noticed and investigated by the main branch.

>> No.69203560

>>69203159
She has Nijisanji Personality Disorder

>> No.69203565

the GURRAT is plausible because of how retarded kurosanji and their livers are (as demonstrated by Millie) and that's hilarious

>> No.69203632

>>69202475
Pro-Doki is burning bridges with Nijisanji but I'm not surprised they're cold and calculated. Considering Matara likes the clique and IronMouse likes the clique, I bet they hate Doki right now

>> No.69203651

>>69203496
Imagine the Ace Attorney level meltdown of Elira if she were to be terminated along with her cronies

>> No.69203662

>>69203161
Everything up to now shows that’s exactly what they believe

>> No.69203679

>>69203031
That's the thing about the Joe Pesci analogy. He takes things a step too far and has to be whacked by his own familia...or FamElira.

>> No.69203754
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Can someone confirm or deny if Elira's private Discord leak we have saved in the doc is the same server as in this accidental leak from Petra? The quality is shit but it might be worth adding to our resources if it's true.

>> No.69203757

>>69200537
The embezzlement rrat makes too much sense, it's the next extension of the GUR imo
It still has really not been discredited, only proven more. The only thing that realistically could've gone against it was "Niji doesn't fund individual livers directly" and while that is true, the rest of the GUR easily accounts for this with the middle-managing.
The sponsorship and merch amounts for Elira vs everyone else is the smoking gun for this but I wonder if there's anything else we can dig up

>> No.69203852

>>69203531
Yeah but the whole world was looking at them and they cared more about smearing Doki than bring good PR so it wouldn't surprise me if Elira clique tried an expose so that they could possibly beat Doki by going back to their PLs. If they do nothing, they're already done, their careers are already done, the only way out is to prove their innocence... which they can't because they aren't innocent but they sure will try!

>> No.69203867

>>69203754
It's the same server yeah, look at the order of the member list and roles on the side

>> No.69203875

>>69201397
Probably. We've seen hints that certain members are talking behind the scenes with twitch whores like daph smearing doki's name and we've had a constant smear campaign /here/ that reached fever pitch the day of the black screen stream.
If they're doing what appears to be happening things are going to get extremely ugly extremely fast. What astounds me personally is that these retards have looked at how zaion's defamation barely worked (caused both sides to suffer defamation), how the entire internet went into meltdown over the termination of selen, then went into a second meltdown over their first attempt to "expose" doki and they're thinking
>that thing that keeps backfiring worse on us every time we do it? lets quintuple down because it's going to work eventually surely!
Honestly it feels an awful lot to me like they're unironically trying to get doki to kill herself. We're fast approaching a point where that is the only possible explanation for their behavior.
They are fully aware doki is one bad day away from death and still push upping the ante every time.
What's amazing is they are so narcissistic they actually think any of them walk away with a career online if they achieve their goal.

>> No.69203972

>>69202969
They have a choice to reach a middle ground that this shit was complicated. Doki has extended a white flag with this out but they refuse to see past any other options. They're so far up in their ass, I'm not surprised that you guys are leaking. Any sensible person would look at this situation and try to defuse it in private. A public expose shows that you all have a grudge and can never let bygones be bygones.

>> No.69203994

>>69203875
The obvious next point is trying to leak doki’s document to the public, given its this document that got them so riled up in the first place.

>> No.69203997

>>69203565
also didn't NijiKR have a similar situation with a rogue liver taking things over? Does anyone have a QRD on what actually happened there?

>> No.69204012

>>69199761
>>69199773
>>69200062
Woah is me, thy deadline is only but one day. How dare they!!

>> No.69204023

>>69203179
>>69203161
An angle to consider is that, as idol-adjacent vtubers with a significant fanbase, Elira and co have been surrounded by sycophants for a very long time at this point. In lower-stakes and less serious situations, they could do something equally stupid and be showered in praise for it.
Like, imagine being Vox and literally everything you say or do online prompts a mass of sisters who blindly praise you, agree with you, treat you like a god, kiss the ground you walk on, no matter what.
Imagine experiencing that for THREE YEARS.
I legitimately think that a lot of the livers involved in this have had their sense of reality seriously damaged. They might be literally incapable of critically analyzing the position they are in anymore.

>> No.69204028

>>69203875
>What's amazing is they are so narcissistic they actually think any of them walk away with a career online if they achieve their goal.
What else you expecting from brain dead zoomers from Canada thinking they are main characters?

>> No.69204076

>>69203972
Doki is extending a white flag because she’s winning and the current status quo benefits her. The current status quo doesn’t benefit nijisanji EN.

>> No.69204108

>>69203397
Holy fuck I want this to happen so much, god let this happen

>> No.69204145

>>69203875
yeah can we pick this apart a little? >>69197627
I really want to believe leaker (skinwalker or not) because they've provided amazing entertainment, I can believe the stupidity to try and make an expose, but I can't fathom that they would
>get the okay from central
How could this ever be approved by central? Does this mean the Elira statement was approved by central? Because I thought that as soon as roki made his statement JP would be clamping down hard on EN like the rest of the leak states. An official document made with the livers, published by Nijisanji JP management makes more sense
What am I missing?

>> No.69204166

>>69203488
what the fuck is your retarded logic NDF, I swear you extremists see everything in black and white

>> No.69204183

>>69204076
Ultimately they have only themselves to blame for that.

>> No.69204189

>>69203875
Some of them can definitely survive this with a hardcore fan base who will keep supporting them no matter what. Vox especially, I wonder how big the girls’ core audience is

>> No.69204190

>>69203867
Ok adding it to the doc then

>> No.69204210

>>69203852
>Yeah but the whole world was looking at them and they cared more about smearing Doki than bring good PR
Because the big boss wasn't on her case just yet. The fear of being fired for causing any further harm to the company brand has to be instilled in her at this point. Guess we'll see one way or another whether she's really that dumb.

>> No.69204211

>>69204076
the status quo is as good as NijiEN can get right now
all of the moves they make just make it worse for them

>> No.69204231

>>69203875
>What's amazing is they are so narcissistic they actually think any of them walk away with a career online if they achieve their goal.
Elira could admit to all the bullying, and livestream herself and Vox kidnapping and beheading Selen, and doxxsite sisters would still say "why is no-one considering that it's Selen's fault? She clearly pushed them to do this"

>> No.69204243

Because they’re dating duh. It explains why he was so mad. He’s protecting his girl

>> No.69204273

>>69204012
>Woah is me

>> No.69204279

>>69203972
For all you know they did try to, until Doki comes along with her doc saying that Niji caused her to try and kill herself. But then again i'm just shooting bullshit out my ass like everyone else rn

>> No.69204397

>>69204012
>Woah is me
>Woah

Millie shut the fuck up already. All i want to hear from you is moaning.

>> No.69204420

>>69204231
Doki could admit that there was no bullying, she went around management constantly, and used her suicide attempt to garner sympathy and all her fans would still say that Niji is evil and so are all the livers.

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>>69204012
>Woah is me

Rosemi I know you're retarded enough to be groomed by EE and M, but certainly not *this* retarded

>> No.69204462

>>69204145
im thinking riku/jp management just told them to make a statemnet to fix things, since they still assumed niji en could solve the issue. at this time, things were dying down and things might have started to even improve if the stream was neutral to mesh with riku's statement. im guessing nijji en didn't have time to sit down and see that video ahead of time

they failed spectacularly with the black stream, riku wants to know wtf is going on, and then the investigations have now started. central may want to put a statement that really drives home the fact that things are improving now. to what extent, who knows.

unless central is referring to the en liver talents as a whole, at which point, it's feeding lleaks through the proper channels before the investigations catch on.

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>>69204420
Yass, slay sister. See you on doxxsite later. Much love mwah!

>> No.69204505

>>69204145
Could be possible if some of the clique throws other members under the bus and then appears to be helpfully sharing information as if they are super loyal to Niji and just helping them clean up the filth, even if they are PART of the filth

>> No.69204546

>>69204231
I doubt the doxsisters are large enough an audience to support them solely

>> No.69204641

>>69204076
I swear, im not sparing anymore thoughts to help the clique. Do this, I hope you guys lose your online careers and have this follow your alt accounts

>> No.69204656

>>69204076
Lol she just wants to move on from this shit. Though this board is doing a fanastic job of keeping the drama alive against her will, cause the reality is people here dont actually care about doki, they just want drama

>> No.69204659

>>69204420
The point is that even if that’s all true there’s no way to change the narrative to that. If that’s true, it’s time for nijisanji EN to admit defeat to Doki who outplayed them at every step.

>> No.69204675

>>69204243
That would be the holy grail of rrat. A fractal shaped rrat you zoom into and just find more rrat no matter how far you go. So many people would get absolutely BTFO if that ended up being true and public. Vox's fans didn't mind literal child rape but this? Actual riots in the streets of china.

>> No.69204681

>>69204420
>Niji is evil
yeah and it's still right. if not evil just extremely retarded. even if selen was a true BPD menhera liar niji management fucked themselves in the ass so hard that they managed to turn the narrative in doki's direction

>> No.69204726

>>69201797
What if Enna is actually LK? Lol

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>>69203565
Pretty much. Trying to "own the haters" is actually the worst decision to take in this wild west of a message board

>> No.69204834

>>69204726
If Enna is LK, I'm jumping off a bridge

>> No.69204836

Shared from mobile but Nux is working on management documentary. Also says he knows leaks worse than all this, that implies worse than Doki suicide.

Embezzlement, cp, and eliciting sexual favors are this 100% on the table though I can't think of anything worse than driving someone to death

https://youtu.be/xj-fTSHR8us?si=8dU4d5y5HkHuqpA2
Starts at about 5 minutes

>> No.69204869

Is it too schizo to wonder if Kyo is actually graduating to act as an indie mouthpiece for the clique to freely slander Doki outside because the other graduates were unwilling? Bunch of collabs already lined up with bigger streamers to just run his mouth (39Daph, LordAethelstan)?

>> No.69204871

>>69204656
Saying she wants to move on from this is a calculated move to portray herself sympathetically, as people tend to sympathise with people on the defensive

>> No.69204898

>>69204836
Oh fuck off with nux hes a fucking moron, look at the title of that video for god sakes, moist spoke about the situation for 5 god damn minutes

>> No.69204926

>>69204420
Oh, I'll be one of those people. the rrat:
>Niji actually hires a team of star multi-million competent lawyers who lay down the perspective to Doki: we'll be fucking with you for many years, every week, you're so done now. Now do a public apology or prepare for an endless court hell, it doesn't matter if we lose but we'll make you suffer.
>raises the white flag

>> No.69204928

>>69203867
>>69203754
It's not the same server. The girls moved to a server when Luxiem was introduced.

>> No.69204983

>>69204836
nux is an idiot, and so are you for posting him

>> No.69204982

>>69204871
The two are not exclusive.

>> No.69204985

>>69204871
>i dont understand how people with trauma think, and dont get they dont like being reminded of said trauma
fixed it for you

>> No.69204999

>>69203757
>"Niji doesn't fund individual livers directly"
This is a fun word game, that depends on the payout structure of Nijisanji.
>Liver wants to buy something
>Liver gets a superchat
>Superchat money is sent to a Nijisanji for holding
>End of month, liver is sent their share of the money
>Liver now gets to buy thing
In this case, Nijisanji doesnt fund individual livers directly.
Another payout structure would go like this
>Liver wants to buy something
>Liver gets a superchat
>Superchat money is sent to a Nijisanji for holding
>End of month, liver is sent their share of the money minus the thing they want to buy
>Management now buys thing on behalf of liver
Here, the statement "Niji doesn't fund individual livers directly" is still true, but now it is a lot easier to embezzle as someone from management could mark down the money as being used by the liver, while actually being used for something else

>> No.69205031

>>69192698
Dude is the Jimmy Saville of VTubers, lmao

>> No.69205047

>>69204166
I think the logic speaks for itself, you can’t gaslight people into being responsible for your own suicide attack

>> No.69205085

>>69203757
Could it sync with the document rrat?

>> No.69205091

>>69204869
Ohhhh, that would be spicy

>> No.69205133

>>69205047
Pack it up boys, the chess speaks for itself.

>> No.69205185

>>69204871
she just tried to end her life twice and best you can come up with is "that's calculated"?

Come on bro, if you want a rrat you gotta make it more believable. Like her manager or lawyer are the masterminds putting her up to this.

>> No.69205195

>>69204869
I see a few issues there.
First, Kyo didn't retweet the Elira vid like everyone else, which would imply that he's trying to distance himself from the ongoing controversy.
Secondly, a member of the clique leaving Niji would fundamentally give the clique less control over their actions.
Third, there are already big streamers that are apparently friendly towards them that they could leak information to if the goal was just to slander her.

>> No.69205219

>>69204926
Na doesn't track. Her lawyer is in Japan but she lives in Canada. If she wants she can't just cut all Japanese legal ties and decide to never travel to Japan and there wouldn't be a thing Niji could do. And if they tried to bring the case to Canada they would get there ass handed to them big time.

>> No.69205226

>>69204836
SEX FER FAVORS

>> No.69205241

Speaking of management and Elira, didn't she buy a house in Toronto a year or so ago?

>> No.69205251

>>69204812
the "secret gc" stream holds so much weight with all of this coming out lol

>> No.69205298

>>69205195
This is true. I never thought about that

>> No.69205308

Reminder if you are editing the rrat: refresh your page. Also, save PDF backups in case the page gets vandalized or some retard who hasn't refreshed in years decides to push an edit.

>> No.69205317

>>69205219
>If she wants she can't just cut all
She can cut ties

>> No.69205325

>>69205241
More recently she bought an apartment in Tokyo.

>> No.69205340

>>69205047
Yes sis, it's your fault that you didn't survive bullet in the head, your own skull wasn't dense enough (suprisingly)

>> No.69205373

>>69197627
I'll go full nuclear on them if they attempt this

>> No.69205413

>>69192515
why does nobody address the existence of Kotoka and Meloco in this? Kotoka especially, if she's apparently willing to slay a vampire to further her own goals wouldn't she sink the clique to further her own interests?

>> No.69205427

>>69204836
>documentary
lol retard probably got his sources from here or reddit

>> No.69205456

>>69205185
Is she actually trying to take her own life, or just threatening to do so? Is she trying to turn herself into a victim by doing that to get sympathy? Only Selen knows

>> No.69205462

>>69204675
rrat: vox took the coochie shot from elira

>> No.69205497

>>69205325
And yet Maria has to skip meals so she's barely able to buy her medicine.

>> No.69205531

>>69204726
>Enna is LK
>LK
>Likes Kids

>> No.69205552

>>69205456
she was hospitalized after the attempt, what do you think?

>> No.69205564

>>69205497
wait what. actual thing or just joke speculation?

>> No.69205568

>>69205531
Oh my god

>> No.69205570

>>69192051
before this entire drama i thought when people refered to nijisanji as a black company it means black owned. figured thats an insult on 4chan

>> No.69205579

>>69205531
SASUGA KOJIMA-SAN

>> No.69205675

>>69204726
If LK is real its fucking Luca. The Ocelot of Nijisanji, just playing all sides that exist.

>> No.69205689

>>69205340
If some person you can’t stand tries to kill themselves, does that suddenly make you a bad person? Selen has always been thin skinned, did she just throw the word harassment out there in her doc to make her words carry more weight? I’m reminded of Luca’s ex mod who claimed Luca sexually assaulted her in VR, to then later state that just meant grinding up against her or some stupid shit blown out of proportion

>> No.69205694

eternally waiting for calm, collected, non-gossip-oriented rrat video coverage
>inb4

I have no interest in engaging with the tactless sisterhood who wants to see everything burn, nor the grifters for whom this is usual meat for their clickbait grinder. Don't tell me the GURRAT is any of this, because it's not. What I and honest actors want is insight and the truth.

>> No.69205744

>>69205497
Proof?

>> No.69205825

>>69204675
If the Elira x Vox rrat is true, Niji will literally burn, fulfilling Vox’s prophecy

>> No.69205839

>>69205694
but enna said not to dig for the truth

>> No.69205870

>>69205744
it was revealed to me in a rrrat

>> No.69205909

Regardless of the veracity of any of these rrats, NijiEN is done. All it takes is for some of the livers to believe it, and they'll start cracking as a group even more.
Elira is literally enemy number one because of that video, and if livers are /here/ they're seeing the destruction of her public image happening live.
And if someone IS leaking, and its noticed/verified by another liver, no one is going to talk to anyone within the branch about ANYTHING anymore.
A lack of communication, and lack of desire for new people to join, and the branch being transformed into a suffocating jail cell for the talents will kill the branch, it going out with a whimper most likely, rather than a dramatic finale of mass terminations or revealed embezzlement schemes.

>> No.69205918

>>69205825
Nijisanji would end up listed in the "see also" section of the kyoani burning in wikipedia.

>> No.69205992

>>69192698
i've been thinking of this insignificant RRAT of Vox and Ike participating in the Black Stream as them clinging to the company because both their PLs have dirt (sexual misconduct allegations) that makes it harder for them to get a hire that isn't nepo'd

>> No.69206028

>>69199291
I have some autism to share, a follow-up to the merch release rrat
https://rentry.org/nijimerchrrat

>> No.69206047
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69206047

Can this be canonized as part of the gurrat?

>> No.69206092

>>69205195
Could simply be laziness, or it could be that they know retweeting paints him as a Niji bootlicker, which is widely unpopular (most people still believe the 3 were coerced to make the statement - all the normie reacttubers have expressed this sentiment).

Leaks from inside presented by outsiders raise tons of questions about sources and can trip NijiJP inquisitions, which is where former insider notKyo comes in.

>> No.69206104

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdiPPv879UI
>Elira admits she made and owns the EN discord server
>power trips on stream by removing Pomu's admin rights, and admits it's a bit evil
This never made sense to me until the gurrat

>> No.69206119

>>69205675
I think its someone who has it out for Luca in the branch. You don't use your own fucking initials when revealing company secrets.

>> No.69206133

>>69205909
NijiEn can survive if ex talents talk out against Doki’s character. People won’t be able to say nijisanji management is forcing them to

>> No.69206176

>>69206047
For FUCK’s sake I cropped this, WHY did it revert

>> No.69206288

>>69206028
Screengrabbing for posterity, can never be too careful

>> No.69206304

>>69199673
Vox isn't going to fuck you

>> No.69206381

>>69205839
Unfortunately, people will take my orders, not the other way around.

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69206392

>>69206104
ISREAL

>> No.69206393

>>69206028
we should not skip over this, this is excellently put together

>> No.69206457

>>69206028
excellent data gathering anon

>> No.69206501

>>69205992
Thats actually a REALLY good reason for them to cling to the sinking ship

>> No.69206509

>>69204145
From what I understood, since I am keeping almost everyone at an arm's length at this point, for my own image, they want to effectively speak to their friends about "their truth", so that a grassroot, coordinated pushback turns public sentiment around.

The discussion on discord is infantile, with several livers providing absurd suggestions, and engaging in asinine thought experiments about how they can turn sentiment around.

From what I gather, a recently graduated liver will lay the groundwork, since they would be bound only by the non-disparagement agreement, and the non-disclosure agreement, allowing them to provide information about certain topics with no particular risk. Other graduated and terminated livers have refused (thus far) to engage, because they may or may not be signed with other agencies.


One particular liver stated that if that are going to go through with this, they would have to go through proper channels, and everyone else fell in line. They will likely pitch it as providing information anonymously to their friends in the influencer sphere, so they could restore Nijisanji's and Anycolor's image in the west.

I don't have the smallest of inklings whether Anycolor management will agree.
The PR managers that have been effectively tutoring us have been very kind and professional, I did not get the sense of impending doom, but it's clear the branch will be restructured once the personnel that Nijisanji is looking for gets hired and orientated.

>> No.69206511
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69206511

>>69192433
these two fucks in en and nijifags called zaion the pedo

>> No.69206519

>>69206133
Thats the rub though, what could they say against her? Difficulty to work with? Was SHE harassing anyone? Not following the Activity Rules? Anything they say, and if they say anything, just gets painted as further evidence for the bullying/harassment claims.

>> No.69206579

I haven't kept up with this drama and only like Scarle. Is she safe?

>> No.69206595

Also according to Matara, Rosemi is currently in Japan. For what purpose we just don't know yet

>> No.69206645

>>69206579
I... I'm sorry to have to be the one to tell you this, anon, but Millie turned her into a burrito...

>> No.69206675

>>69204812
"Owning the haters" is a bad strategy for internet goodwill. The friends you make are the ones who would own you in a heartbeat, given the chance, and you alienate those who desire peace and stability.

>> No.69206683

>>69206104
Holy… add it to the rat

>> No.69206689

>>69206579
She might've been saved from the "mental health break" by JP intervention

>> No.69206781

>>69206028
Very balanced and data-driven judgement, anon.

>> No.69206783

>>69205413
Kotoka/Meloco are new and barely speak English, not a threat to Elira.

>> No.69206788

>>69206509
Graduated liver. Not affiliated with an agency.
Pomu?

>> No.69206791

>>69199673
Literally everyone she's worked with says she is very dependable and easy to work with. Keep crying voxsis, literally every exniji has shit on niji management. Fucking cope harder.

>> No.69206866

>>69206788
Kyo Id imagine

>> No.69206865

>>69206509
Thank you for the info, LK

>> No.69206890

>>69206788 (me)
Disregard. It may be Kyo since he's graduating this week.

>> No.69206895

>>69206509
I kneel

>> No.69206925

>>69206104
Look at all these Chekhov's guns going off, holy shit...

>> No.69206985

>>69206509
Hello Fulgur.

>> No.69206992

>>69206028
Quality post, I added a link to the original rentry

>> No.69206993

>>69206519
Say she blows things out of proportion and claims harassment where there is none. If Nina or Pomu say something like that, people’s minds would change

>> No.69207066

>>69206119
As we already saw, "real" Luca is actually his hag handler who recently drop him.

>> No.69207115

>>69206791
Shut on niji management? Absolutely. Shit on niji livers? No

>> No.69207123

>>69204836
I've said this before but Nux is biased. He told critical in another video that Hololive fired Rushia because she had a boyfriend and got backlash over it. He did mention what actually got her terminated, but continued to suggest it was a convenient reason to let her go.

>> No.69207147

Im the only one that remember kuzuha advertising Elira 3d in A BIG WAY

https://www.youtube.com/live/k5XoE3Py7Uc?si=kUrGlnEXUNyuoYHG

https://www.youtube.com/live/k5XoE3Py7Uc?si=kUrGlnEXUNyuoYHG

>> No.69207170

>>69206501
i followed ike from his PL and i saw his own situation lay out in real time. while the allegations had no proof to put it out he still has a dirtied name to come back to, unlike selen who was loved as dokibird

if NijiEN actually tanks and he's lucky he might have scrap money to buy a new avatar and continue as a new indie but somehow i doubt he'd be able to do that

for vox, he knows his fans don't care about the allegations, but he'd also have to return under another name if he knows what's good for him. also lines up with him freaking out about doki recording him. most likely he's said some nefarious shit and is panicking about doki sending his dirty laundry out to the world

even if both vox and ike considered leaving / graduating they'd be desperate to cling onto their current lives, because the chance of shit hitting the fan for them if they ever left Niji isn't 0%

>> No.69207212

>>69206509
Damn it Kyo, why you gotta stick with the clique even iutside of Nijiiii

>> No.69207270

>>69206509
>The discussion on discord is infantile, with several livers providing absurd suggestions, and engaging in asinine thought experiments about how they can turn sentiment around.
I believe this 100%

>> No.69207299

My thanks to the shizos of vt who put the GURRAT and all this info together. We have not had a boring time lately.

>> No.69207302

>>69207212
Dude is wigger anon.

>> No.69207319

>>69206509
Infantile discussion suggests they don't actually have anything damning on Selen, just that she was difficult to work with or had an emotional outburst before

>> No.69207327

If I remember right, Kyo said that he will take a break after his graduation and wouldn't come back until March.
If the graduated streamer ''exposing'' Dokibird claims are true, this would mean that in the time of his break he would be spending time in feeding the story to flesh streamers to make the the dislike for Doki look legitimate.

>> No.69207339

>>69206579
Beyond safe, it seems like she's one of the good ones. It's a nice time to be a Scarle fan.

>> No.69207349

>>69204869
>>69206509
>>69206092
Kyo's getting into position using his notKyo contacts.

>> No.69207406

>>69206509
>The branch will be restructured
hoping this means the clique will be kicked down if they do have higher positions / favoritism or given corporal punishment from management

>> No.69207412

>>69206509
I was just drafting a rrat expanding that, thanks for clarifying

in regards to the livers that are laying low, my schizo prediction

>MV drama, livers with most sway agree it's in the best interest of the branch for Selen to quietly graduate due to this debacle
(Remember, liver disputes are handled internally in Discord, for things to spiral as quickly as they did for Selen to state the majority of livers wanted her gone this probably didn't get to JP at all yet)
>many low-laying livers were unaware to the true extent of the clique / it's desire to character assassinate Selen and are swayed by whatever narrative they push about perms
>selen attempt
>too much confusion to publicly acknowledge anything, the clique is running full damage control internally, but individually and in DMs some livers are trying to work out what's going on
>liver or someone who has near frequent contact with one makes the original LK posts in mid-January
>Feb 5th, the day all rrats became real
>the termination was written by management but mainly *informed* by select livers: Elira, Vox, etc.
>at least some livers are shocked by the termination, they may have known it would happen eventually or thought it would be a graduation but many didn't expect it to be so sudden
>anyone who didn't know about the attempt beforehand is now mortified
>blacklivestream.mp4
>livers who were still giving the clique benefit of the doubt are now mortified that they are still pushing this so hard after the attempt became public

My next line of speculation would be to what exactly Nijisanji intends to do with the restructuring and how it will be accomplished. We know that they're hiring a bunch of new roles, but in order for this to be well and truly behind them they HAVE to remove the rot from the branch, and that includes at the very least getting rid of Elira and Vox, which is to put it mildly, a massive set-back to their reputation.

>> No.69207521

>>69207319
The real question is, doki said she still has a friend inside nijisanji who’s on her side. Who is it?

>> No.69207580

They should stay quiet if they know what's good for them.
If Doki is truly menhera and the root of all the issues, she'll expose herself in time just like Rushia did.
And on the other hand, if Doki is innocent and they were actually harassing her, the more they talk the more they'll let slip their own true nature and fuck themselves over.
Tbh if I was a bystander talent in Niji right now and what Doki said was true, I'd self terminate ASAP and back her up to get on her pity gravy train. Niji hasn't been a financially sound option for a long time

>> No.69207588

>>69207521
She's still friends with Yugo, who is Yugo good with that's still there?

>> No.69207606

>>69200872
They did this with ex nijiIN livers after they got axed you retard

>> No.69207740

>liver or someone who has near frequent contact with one makes the original LK posts in mid-January
When did the first mention of "follow the rose" happen? If it's Jan 14/15, then it's EXTREMELY relevant.

>> No.69207741

>>69207580
Especially for the later gens that failed, publicly siding with Selen, getting terminated and collating with doki could be an insane boost

>> No.69207754

>>69207349
The timing makes too much sense...

>> No.69207786

>>69192044
idk that he'll make them apologize since the current theory amongst fans is that the company and management forced them to do the first video. The elira management rrat isn't big outside of some twt users and /vt/. So making them say sorry would only worsen their public image. Unless they make them fess up to everything and apologize then.

>> No.69207823

>>69207319
Unfortunately, they don't need substantial evidence to spark harassment and influence public support. The public obsession with juicy receipts and clapping back has made it difficult for Doki to maintain her mature stance of not feeding the trolls and keeping it between lawyers.

>> No.69207828

>>69206509
>Other graduated and terminated livers have refused (thus far) to engage,
Are you seriously trying to imply they are reaching out to Zaion and Yugo for public help? That would actually be wild

>> No.69207848

>>69205992
There is an another rrat that tries to explain vox
>>69203295

>> No.69207908

>>69206509
>From what I understood, since I am keeping almost everyone at an arm's length at this point, for my own image, they want to effectively speak to their friends about "their truth", so that a grassroot, coordinated pushback turns public sentiment around.
This is not possible for any of you to do on your own and I know you guys are at the forefront of doing public relations and etc. for yourself and cultivating your own brand and fanbase, but there is a reason why there is a market for dedicated PR firms that Fortune 500 companies pay 8 figures sums just to consult with for any coordinated marketing push. And it doesn't even work once people have already seen enough independent sources and thought about things. Look at how much money tobacco companies and oil/gas companies have spent trying to turn around their image when we know what damage they have done to society.
>The discussion on discord is infantile, with several livers providing absurd suggestions, and engaging in asinine thought experiments about how they can turn sentiment around.
Sounds about correct, I am surprised central hasn't put a stop to the secret discord server and see above about how futile the effort is.
>From what I gather, a recently graduated liver will lay the groundwork, since they would be bound only by the non-disparagement agreement, and the non-disclosure agreement, allowing them to provide information about certain topics with no particular risk. Other graduated and terminated livers have refused (thus far) to engage, because they may or may not be signed with other agencies.
I am not going to name anyone and speculate here who this someone is but unless they are going indie and never want to get hired by any Vtubing company ever again, the consequences of that are pretty high.
>One particular liver stated that if that are going to go through with this, they would have to go through proper channels, and everyone else fell in line.
Why would central try and push a narrative you guys made when they are already doing an internal investigation? Think about it rationally. There is no reason at all to accept anything there and it could actually be used as evidence in said investigation.
>The PR managers that have been effectively tutoring us have been very kind and professional, I did not get the sense of impending doom,
Yes, they are like that up until the point where they have to execute their primary job which is to protect the company at all costs and you guys will be thrown under the bus. If there is misappropriation/embezzlement involved, it's going to be even worse because public securities law is no joke.
>the branch will be restructured once the personnel that Nijisanji is looking for gets hired and orientated.
This sounds about right as Riku has to protect overseas expansion of the company at all costs so the stock doesn't tank. I hope for you and everyone else there that he doesn't lowball salaries because if he even thinks he can lowball wages for something like this compared to the job postings we've seen posted online, it's going to be hell and I don't think the smaller problems will be rectified like investment amounts and opportunities.

>> No.69208023

>>69207521
She did? It's either someone playing both sides or someone totally cleared.

Could see it being Rosemi, Fulgur, or Alban. Probably not Scarle cuz she's at risk of termination

>> No.69208093

alright I started looking into it, and the Chae Ara situation with NijiKR looks like pretty clear evidence for Niji's mismanagement of its foreign branches
>>17594908
>>29796497
>>32051064
>>33756642
>Chae ara, with the help of NijiKR management, bullied a lot of KR talents into graduation because those KR talents pandered to the Japanese. Good thing that bitch got kicked out of Nijisanji. There was a time where an entire KR wave graduated in 2020 because everyone in that wave was about to do the Mandatory Korean Military service, which usually lasts for 2 years.
>>33756907
>Bears noting that NijiKR management wasn't so much 'Niji' anything as it was a whole-sale transplant of a local small corpo's management - that's why they were so toxic and out of touch.
>There's an alternate timeline where NijiKR was released using the NijiEN model and is still a thriving branch. Siu...
>>33757172
>I'm not sure there's any timeline where KR thrives like EN.
>Hell EN's own management are trying to tank the branch with incompetence every day. It only succeeded through dumb luck of having 6 incredibly good hires very early on followed by Luxiem exploding in popularity outside of their target demographic through no effort of their own.
>If KR had Japanese/Chinese clipfags shilling them as hard as Luxiem maybe they would've been successful, but I wouldn't consider any of EN's success to be based on the management structure. Heck, Rosemi and Pomu are both struggling to get their original songs approved months after they were finished. MANAGEMENT HATE

>> No.69208161

>>69207521
when did she say that?

>> No.69208177

>>69205241
>>69205325
Wait so she has both a house in Toronto and an apartment in Tokyo?
If that's true then there's no way she isn't embezzling. Real estate in Toronto is absolutely batshit.

>> No.69208224

>>69205694
Depressed Nousagi covered the gurrat in his last stream to over 8k ccv

>> No.69208322

>>69207212
>Pause

>> No.69208504

>>69208177
Most people in Toronto who can afford real estate come from wealthy families who help cover the down payment and then some. It's not that crazy to think she's pretty well off, plenty of vtubers are and it's what allows them to take the risk of being one as their day job.

>> No.69208549

>>69207848
Mostly circumstantial but worth looking into

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>>69207740
no rose, but still bingo

this is what "hyperventilating" enna's tweet was referring

and this is what set off second suicide attempt

may also refer to "help me pink girl" if selen asked rosemi for help afterwards

>> No.69208693

>>69207908
>I am not going to name anyone and speculate here who this someone is but unless they are going indie and never want to get hired by any Vtubing company ever again, the consequences of that are pretty high.

notKyo is a prime candidate: established indie fleshstreamer with popular friends.

>> No.69208797

>>69206028
The only issue I have with this reentry is that it doesn't factor in the time that each liver has under NijiEN. It only makes sense that Elira gets a lot of appearances simply because she had more time in the company and had more chances to appear in past opportunities.

>> No.69208945

>>69207848
(he is management, afraid of PL, insane sisters who will fawn over him regardless) and honestly i'm just trying to wrap my head around WHY IKE is there

>> No.69209007

>>69206509
Lee Kerr chama I have to ask, do they really believe its a good idea to make another move?
Do they have something that is irrefutably damaging to her or is it something that will make things worse?
Are there any other livers who are seemingly keeping some distance?

>> No.69209023

>>69208945
(me) fucked up reply, my bad

>> No.69209128

>>69208945
He fights for his friends

>> No.69209194

>>69208675
Maybe Petra but I dunno.

>> No.69209255

>>69209128
this is the better end but i wouldn't fully trust anyone associated with ewiwa's circlejerk anymore

>> No.69209364

>>69208224
>Depressed Nousagi
ehhhhhhhhhh...

>> No.69209636

I’ve been gone for a day again since the first couple of threads. Proud of you anons for keeping up with the archiving. This kind of stuff can get lost and muddled fast when the spin doctors come in.

>> No.69209657

>>69208675
wait I never noticed
>Millie isn't looking so good
Doesn't that really help the theory that Millie was the one communicating with Selen about the MV on Christmas?

>> No.69209714

>>69208675
What I mean by this

Relevant twitter messages
>>69083622
>>69089069

Enna was publicly making fun of Selen getting the boot, possibly even before they contacted Selen. It's entirely possible Selen found out about it /here/, and Enna's tweet confirmed it.

And if LK is clique agent talking out of his ass, blatant incitement to suicide.

>> No.69210118

>>69209714
>>/vt/thread/69026666#p69042183
LK = Little Kyo Rrat

>> No.69210119

>>69206509
>a recently graduated liver
Nina probably.

>> No.69210203

>>69210119
Nina is signed to VShojo so I don't think she'd be able to. You have to be confident in your ability to succeed as an indie to even consider doing this

>> No.69210407

>>69210203
True.
Also did people already discuss her North American friend that’s a rosy little girl? Or was it a coincidence (probably just because of valentines)

>> No.69210573

>>69206509
God Nijisanji is just so… embarrassing… as a company. That they just don’t have those positions whatsoever and they’re scrambling to get them now after the others fucked off. It’s so cheap, so slimy, so lazy. I really am not trying to come off as a Cover bootlicker but it’s like night and day how they treat their operations.

>> No.69210578

>>69210407
Eh?

>> No.69210657

>>69210578
On Mataras valentines stream with Giri.

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