Elira won

[Anonymous No.]

The drama is already dead, she won. There's nothing you can do.

[Anonymous No.]

Millie, don't you have some cloaca to be eating?

[Anonymous No.]

Least obvious falseflag

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>>69184149
Shut up N**a

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>>69184149

[Anonymous No.]

won what? the chance to keep sucking riku's cock?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
Elira is busy trying to fudge the ledger to hide her theft of company assets

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
The gurrat grows, itis too late Ewiwa.

[Anonymous No.]

you're right, she finally started getting views!

[Anonymous No.]

Its too late. She's tanked EN's reputation, she lost 8 months worth of subscribers, there's no recovery at this point.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
You're all getting audited, organs. Better lay low for now.

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>>69184421
Soon the GURRAT will become the Super Ultimate Great Unifying RRAT.
There is nowhere to run, Elira.
>>69184490
She might have lost more subs today, so maybe the count is at 9 or 10 months worth of lost subs. By Monday she may have lost a whole year of subs.

[Anonymous No.]

>Lost over 30k subs and will have to take over a year to build it all back up with how slow her growth had been
nijisister, it's time to give up

[Anonymous No.]

Remember two years ago when Petra accidentally leaked screenshots from a discord server where Niji EN was shitting on Council?

That is Elira's private discord server. The clique and shadow government rrat is all too true.

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[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
Millie don't you some fried pig penis foreskins to eat?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69185079
yeah, mine

[Anonymous No.]

Also, all Nijisanji's subscribers have stopped going down, probably going to start back up tomorrow or in the next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
Elira you have 1 more day left

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
Elira's dead anon
she got dropped off the yacht in the middle of the ocean after all of NijiEN's dealings were revealed to Riku

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184783
THRIVING!

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184783
>all rrats are real

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184783
"accidentally" leaked a screenshot when EN members are directly shitting on Council instead of other topics
do you think she's behind everything

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>>69184783

>That was 2 years ago

What the fuck

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>>69186112
If the GURRAT is true shes the one EN fluent in JP who isnt part of the clique, so by that logic she likely has known for years exactly how fucked the company is. She's probably been in 'clock in at 9, keep head down, clock out at 5' mode for nearly the entire time she has been a niji.

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>>69186112
Has she ever talked about Holos she likes? Including PL/RM stuff.

[Anonymous No.]

Why are you /here/ anon?
Didn't I warned you not to go digging for the truth

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
She will be struck down

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>>69184783
>mysta sadposting at the bottom

lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184783
>niji thriving

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149

So how are her streams?

I'm a hideous sadist and only attracted to the most cruel and evil of women, so despite barely knowing who she is before this, I'm kind of interested now.

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>>69187517
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjqd1GZIhjU&t=90s
Elira is a corporate whore. This bitch is so desperate for fame she sucked and fucked her way to the top of Nijisanji EN, offering her body to gain favor with and manipulate management. This explains why she is the Queen of the Clique ordering Millie and Enna to bully those she does not like and to fuck the management that she doesn’t want to. It also explains why she gets away with bullying inside the company. She is an evil slut anon.

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>>69184149
>Elira lost
FTFY

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>>69184645
Hey now, the organs can re-celebrate all their milestones again

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
all she had to do was shut up, it could have been dead days ago

less "elira won" and more "elira stopped shitting her own bed"

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>>69187738
fucking kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187738
KEK

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>>69187624

Sounds like a fourth daughter in a fourth-rate house.

I guess that was obvious from her incredibly stupid recent actions.

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>>69184783

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187738
lost

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>>69188295
10/10

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>>69184783
Mystas post never fails to make me fucking laugh.

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>>69188295
I still don't understand why I should be mad about stuff I always assumed was happening anyway

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188295
This was a complete nothingburger. However, people calling what is happening now "ALL OUT WAR" will forever be funny.

[Anonymous No.]

I bet Elira is fat irl. You know the type, shitting on anyone prettier than them, needing all the attention at all times. "all my friends are guys, girls are bitches"

This is all because Elira is a fat tub of lard.

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>>69188974
she's not, she's a stacy

[Anonymous No.]

I'm going to bed now, what are the chances that Niji will pull out another incredible fuck up before I wake up?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188974
her face is kinda fat looking

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
Based saliva queen

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>>69184490
She also killed any chance of EN receiving any future events. 3D anniversary? Nuked. 3D Live? Nuked. Studio single/album? Nuked. Music videos? Nuked. She ruined this for herself and her clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188974
all the clique goons are ugly as fuck
they are simply of lower breed and fogged completely by the pretty women in the company

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>>69189321
They've been holding for a bit since doki's last reply, it's possible they've realised they shouldn't act so hastily at this point.
My bet is we'll see silence for a day or two, maybe a week at best, then niji makes a statement and fires someone they can claim as responsible (be it someone from mid-level management or one/multiple talents, depending on how things play out behind the scenes).

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>>69188883
This earned Pomu a shitload of eternal SEAschizos because their illiterate asses thought she was declaring some sort of feud when she was talking about the double homo wave announcement. 24-7 anti posting on the catalog with janny backing.

Meanwhile Fungus and Vox were just straight up talking shit and no one cared.

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>>69189225
No she isn't a Stacy at all, I don't know where this rrat started but it can be disproven with a simple google search.

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>>69185238
>a vtuber who had more subs than her will still have more subs than her after reincarnation
>this is somehow a big deal/ own

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>>69184149
The drama will obviously subside (unless Niji keeps shooting themselves in the foot) but EN's reputation is irreparably damaged. Any good will EN fans had about Niji is now gone. Management looks like it's laying down the hammer hard on Elira's pseudo management and so the clique won't have any power anymore.

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>>69186902

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>>69186902
As foretold by the prophecy

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>>69189902
Enna is going to go active next week. So I assume it's pretty much over. Still, Niji should try and fix their shit.

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>>69184490
>>69184490
>she lost 8 months worth of subscribers
>maybe 9 or 10
She's at 571k as of now. Where was she before the video was posted?

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>>69188974
I saw the roommate thread 3/4 of EN is fat and/or ugly

[Anonymous No.]

>>69186112
I believe, this is what they get for calling me gura

[Anonymous No.]

>>69191528
I think her peak was around 606,000

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>>69187624
I'd tap that to be honest, morally bankrupt women are moe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188295
>Please just fucking save me"
Kek

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>>69184149
Enough people have noticed the very obvious unnatural favoritism in merch and sponsorships so she won't be able to get away with stealing all the money from all the other talents for at least another year or so. I'd chalk that up as a win

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>>69187734
Unironically this, the fallout and the suspicion left behind by this, will taint her reputation worse than Doki.

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>>69190143
it is becuase nijinigs kept saying she's going to be a 2view outside of niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>69192003
we know, Vox

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>>69190143
It is a big deal because now she gets most of the profits.

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>>69186902
This is cinema

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>she won
>when it's extremely likely she's already in the middle of getting shitcanned for taking a shit all over Riku's apology video

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188295
Mysterio...

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>>69192284
Good point. It's really embarrassing to admit fault and bow as a Japanese CEO. You lose face. Now imagine your English branch sending out a statement that hinders as well as sabotages your own PR speak to your investors. You've essentially made yourself look like an idiot AND your employees made you look more stupid AND the PR didn't win back investor's trust.

If Riku's anger was at a 10. This incident pushed it to a 20.

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>>69191528
>>69191889
She was 606k before the termination and was either 597k or 598k before the MESSAGE video on her channel

[Anonymous No.]

its honestly best for everyone if the drama dies sooner rather than later niji gets to keep niji'ing it up and selen can move on being doki having gotten a nice boost from the drama that was a negative to her for so long only the new victims get a down side - every time doki would vague post about receipts i would worry she'd release something because no matter what it is some giant chunk would say oh that's not really that bad. keeping it as nebulous bullying is better PR wise. its like how monsters in movies are scary until you see them.

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>>69184149
I'm more curious on their next move. I can see them not lying down without more public shitflinging. Their egos are incredibly bruised beyond belief.

Not only do they look stupid in their own community. Now the entire gaming sphere and streaming sphere is aware of your drama.

This might be why they'll likely sue Doki or keep fighting. If they ever sweep it under the rug, those who know will know. It'll become like NijiJP where every sensible fan will leave and only the delusional stans with no morals will remain. Tragic.

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>>69192003
Vox we know

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>>69186902
Kino.

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>>69184149
>Elira won
Yes, won a chance to being Blacked

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>>69184490
In my opinion she hasn't lost enough , people need to be quicker on the unsubbing

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>>69192754
>people need to be quicker on the unsubbing
just shows how many of the subs are dead subs that don't even watch anymore

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>>69192623
I genuinely wanted the drama to end but that shitty PR move from them made it so much worse. I really hope they can remove their egos, admit fault to escalation, and keep this privately. Right now, by sweeping it under the rug, they look bad and you cannot recover from that damage. They need to genuinely fix everything without pointing fingers and do a 180 from how they did everything. If they put out another negative statement attacking back, it's over. They need to fucking end this drama themselves because doki is done, they need to stop.

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>>69184149
>won
Honest question, how does she return to streaming ever again

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>>69192833
a genuine dogeza, you do that or your career is finished.

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>>69184149
Which is exactly what Doki wanted in the first place. It's time to move on, Niji. This is not high school anymore.

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>>69184149
>exposed herself as either a vile or braindead bitch (maybe both) while everyone who gives a shit about vtubing was watching
>won?
>??????

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>>69192284
Even if you assume the response was her idea, which I till doubt, there's no way that it wasn't actually coordinated with the CEO's response. Their response made direct reference to it. And unless you assume that every talent agreed with it, management was very likely heavily involved.

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>>69184149

https://files.catbox.moe/xu94t9.png

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>>69184149
Have fun serving cocktails and sucking investor cock for the rest of your youth on the yatch until you're a used leather husk and then he'll finally stick you in lower management making 1100¥/hr until you decide to take a walk in Logan Paul's Forest of fun and hang yourself

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>>69192833
>Wait a week
>Tweet "New management has come" (doesn't have to be true)
>Take down video
>Tweet "The video was management mandated and new management wanted it gone" (doesn't have to be true)
>Wait one more week
>Stream again
This will probably make the most people return, but I assume the vast majority for all streams will return anyway. A lot of the hashtag faggots spam messages and inflate the twitter tags . But I assume in two weeks (unless Niji does something stupid again) the situation would have return to normal anyway.

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>>69193158
>take down the video
kek you think too highly of a stubborn bitch

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>>69184149
Aren't you need to prepare for trial?

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>>69185376
That would be the easy way out.
Pretty sure she got keelhauled first.

[Anonymous No.]

Dokibird didn't ask for drama.

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>>69189953
I mean everyone in the image is just shooting the shit, it's fucking nothing. It's really sad to think about the poor starving rrats of 2 years ago, only having this to eat

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>>69192833
>high ccv/views because people want to clip her saying literally anything to get views or make a rrat
>only 6 months members can use chat
>still get spammed to hell
>since the number is of long time members is small, ignore and ban
>eventually only yes men are left
Rushia is still streaming to this day, so it's possible. But her comfy streams are over forever.

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>>69193158
I believe this prediction. I also think Riku will force an internal investigation and hire an English PR team. The very thought of professional English PR people being forced to look at /vt/ makes me laugh

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>>69184783
Finana's [...] is "earn" by the way.

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>>69192833
naked dogeza duh

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>>69193052
I'm on the right

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>>69184149
It didn't died yet, but inevitably it will happen. You know what happens then? Niji reputation is ruined. No one sane will join them and even if someone will try to sponsor them, some bitter Dragoon will send advertisers tl;dr of how they pushed cute tomboy to suicide attempt.
They are done

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>>69193158
See you guys in a week or 2, this feels like the playbook. If they don't do something like this, I'll be genuinely shocked

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>>69184923
chat is this real

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>>69193652
Don't fool yourself, any PR people they hire already read /vt/.

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>>69184149
How many more merch runs will she force herself into?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69193786
It fucking is. Meme magic truly became real this week.

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>>69193652
>The very thought of professional English PR people being forced to look at /vt/ makes me laugh
I pity the uninitiated business major who will be forced to navigate the schizophrenic ramblings of this board.

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>>69184149
Scarle went quiet for a couple days and people went insane. Niji is still losing.

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>>69193818
We'll see, I think /vt/ is out of the norm than the western content creator industry so this mental illness will be new. Maybe they'll hire some proper bilinguals in the anime sphere, we'll see. I just know 1 normie will be forced to read the schizos here for their job, it's funny

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>>69193786
thumbnail from the marquee on the home page of the nijien merch store

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Doki won, She streams while Elira hides in her bullshit from the big lawsuit facing her in Canada.

[Anonymous No.]

Is it just me, or does it bother anyone else how ungrateful and disloyal these women are? This company offered them a rare opportunity that led to their wealth and fame, yet instead of showing appreciation, they criticize the company and leave, confident that their large fanbase will support them as independent artists. They seem to forget that without the company's backing, they would have never reached such heights on their own.

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>>69194336
Shut the fuck up Millie

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>>69194336
How much do they pay you per post?

>Verification not required.

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>>69194497
she does it for free, like our jannies kek

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>>69190143
Try saying that without crying now

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>>69194186
Doki also has her play button. Elira has to give Riku a rim job just to look at hers for a minute.

[Anonymous No.]

You dramafags have the attentionspan of a goldfish. In a month everything will blow over and you will be called a shizo when you are pointing to the incident.

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>>69188295
Mysterio...

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>>69194336
People would call you a nijisister, but it is true. Without joining Nijisanji they'd be a sub 100 indie, there's a reason they chose to join and didn't stay independent. Most people follow them post-Niji is because they found them in Niji. It's not wrong to leave, or bad to leave, NijiEN seems to have a hard ceiling on what they can provide, but it does seem a bit...self-serving...to always bring the bad things and never acknowledge what Niji gave you.

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>>69194336
>they criticize the company
Doki did not even manage to do that. Niji just shot themselves before she even had a chance to.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187624
Did Millie and Enna fuck and suck too, or did they simply watch?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190814
B R A V O
R
A
V
O

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>>69195165
nono, this is not important according to nijinarrative

[Anonymous No.]

>>69194956
Yea not like people are still bringing up the Zaion stuff and were constantly doing so all through 2023. Didn't happen :^)

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>>69195087
And it's a bullshit bootlicking capitalist lapdog take.
These companies aren't charities, they aren't taking on talents out of the goodness of their hearts. Not nijisanji at least.
It's a business transaction and the wring the talent dry before discarding their moldering corpse.

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>>69194336
lmao, this is definitely the funniest thing I've read from this whole debacle

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195087
>People would call you a nijisister, but it is true
It is indeed true that you both are nijisisters.
>N-nooo be gratefully for the opportunity to get royally fucked by corpo!
It's not as if Niji did this out of the goodness of their hearts, they made bank off the back of their talents, they are owed NOTHING.

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>>69195334
If it's a business why was niji engaging in unprofitable favoritism like giving their less popular livers all the merch and sponsorships

[Anonymous No.]

>>69194956
>It'll blow over after a month
>Selen was suspended for a month
Really makes you think

[Anonymous No.]

So, when is she gonna stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195299
What did that achieve? Sayu was a low 3view shitter that got laughed at at every opportunity while Niji continued to thrive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195295
Nobody should forget how Doki publicly slandered Nijisanji in confidential legal documents that Nijisanji leaked.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195397
Seriously doubt these people are real.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195334
>muh poor innocent talent
They're joining because they think they can get a bigger following. Zaion was enticed by the "you'll make more money here" argument.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195401
Nobody ever claimed Nijisanji management is competent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195401
>They're a business so they wouldn't do anything stupid!
Bruh? Were you literally born yesterday what the fuck are you saying?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184783
Meanwhile, in HoloEN:

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195507
You're not wrong. You're also retarded.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195476
19%.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195596
>>69195551
It's not "stupid" to display favoritism on purpose. They do it for a reason, and that reason isn't money.

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>>69195507
Yes anon, they think they will get a following and some steady income and the company thinks what all companies do, that they will get money.
Why should they grin and bear it if they are forced to eat shit during? Would you say that about all companies? How the worker conditions are irrelevant and they should just be happy to have a job?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195700
Then... what is the reason?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188974

>Captcha: DOOX

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195762
Who knows. Maybe Elira gives great head

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195700
Anon. I don't know if you're aware of this but a business is run by people, while the primary objective of a business is to make money an idiot manager can pursue all sorts of secondary objectives like being a petty cunt or wanting to slam mediocre pussy.

What are you ACTUALLY trying to say, all-in-all?

[Anonymous No.]

This conflict is only starting, now that Kurosanji stans showed their heads, and it become more violent with every second, despite Doki explicitly stating that she doesn't wish bullying on anybody. I don't now what atrocities Kurosanji stans OR Kurosanji haters will commit in the future, but it WILL get ugly, mark my words. Humans are animals and only need a cause, any cause, to make somebody's life miserable. My only wish is for talents from both sides to keep themselves safe. Also, fuck Vox

[Anonymous No.]

Did a single EN get to capitalize on Valentine's Day?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190143
I thought they were all dead subs though, right?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195295
>>69195483
she threatened them with slander. Niji decided to speak before that happened. bad move, but Doki is still an ungrateful bitch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195334
god I wish they would "mistreat" me like that, leaving me as a millionaire after all their horrible "mistreatment" is over with

[Anonymous No.]

>>69194121
>Niji puppet
> Of 3, only Elira and Vox
Vox and Elira were just puppets. Ike is the true queen bee of the clique.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195829
>she threatened them with slander
Did the voices in your head tell you this or did nijisanji leak the rest of her legal complaint to you personally?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195701
For that kind of money I would literally eat shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188974
Doku sounds fat and like a smoker

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184783
My favourite part of this image still has to be Mysta menhera posting about his depression. Not that it’s funny, but in the context of what is supposed to be a really startling and upsetting screencap of talents acting like prissy, gossiping brats, having Mysta come in last second like a cutaway gag with something completely unrelated just makes me laugh every time.

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>>69184616
More important than subs lost is active members and viewers lost.
Given every single member lost 10k it's safe to assume a portion of the subs lost were from people who sub to everyone but only actually watch a couple of members, those are largely irrelevant.
It's still a disaster for her though, and in fact much more than just losing a year of subs. If even 10% of the lost subs translates to viewers then she's dead in the water and killed her entire channel with that move. There's good reason to believe she has done exactly that since most of the top comments on the black screen stream are members expressing how disappointed in her they are.

Elira might have a viewership bounce from brainwashed tourist sisters but those types don't pay the bills. Members and gachi pay the bills and she's probably halved those (at a minimum) with her retarded stream. Subs and lost subs aren't the number to look out for, it's members and ccv.

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>>69195921
That's why you're a worm and will never be anything but a worm anon. You think prostrating yourself and gleefully getting stepped on will actually get you anywhere? Well, your manager will surely... not actually even think about you as they drive around in the car they bought off the money they made from your work.

Good little corporate doggy, keep wagging your tail screeching about how grateful you are to be a doormat.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195921
>>69196027
Yeah I'm sure Sayu is rolling in cash.
It's not like all the ex-niji memebrs say how shit the compensation was or anything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
>150 million in lost stock
>she won
Yeah...She sure did win anon. She sure did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196099
>Anon pretending to be such an expert on people that he can tell their body shape by the sound of their voice
Alright be real with us anon, when was the last time you actually talked to a real person that you weren't related to?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196259
That's not an anon, that's a doxxsite sister.

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>>69196207
Hilariously if they had just kept quiet this whole thing would have blown over pretty quick. Now most of their talents aren't even streaming, had to turn off chat or greatly restrict it which will turn off new people just stumbling upon their streams. Tons of dedicated nijifans have fucked off, won't be members to their streams anymore, won't be buying merch and they've been actively losing subscribers for over a week (which is stuff that doesn't really ever happen)

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196188
Doki revealed she spend 200k of her own money just on projects.
She is a millionaire for sure. Even if they only get a fraction of the donos, they are all rich as fuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196259
Fatness does affect the voice. This is common knowledge. Stop pretending

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>>69196382
>We're so positive for our livers! Not Selen though!
So even the 'dedicated fans' are singling her out despite the fact that she hasn't actually said anything, hasn't blamed anyone, hasn't named anyone... But there's no harassment or bullying, this is an entirely natural development :^)

[Anonymous No.]

My rrat:

Elira hasn’t streamed because she wanted to come out as a victim of harassment by attempting to an hero for sympathy. Problem is, she’s retarded and actually succeeded

Last words to the clique: “Watch this…”

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196468
>Doki being down 200K of personal cash due to niji refusing to pay is proof people get rich because of niji

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196468
I'm sure she's filthy rich given that she made 0 profit last year at niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196259
>Obese individuals exhibit the following modifications in voice feature: hoarseness, murmuring, vocal instability, altered jitter and shimmer, and reduced maximum phonation times as well the presence of voice strangulation at the end of emission.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196597
>This is common knowledge
Really? Because even a casual glance shows that actual research says otherwise. By 'common knowledge' do you mean 'I made it up but I presume it's true and if it's true it must be common knowledge so it's common knowledge"? Why even lie about something so obviously untrue and easily disproven?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196696
I'm starting to get architects now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196605
bruh, she's just busy covering her ass from lawsuits, tf are you smoking

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196599
Those aren't Dragoon, that's for sure. Every Dragoon was hopeful to see her graduate. They wanted the suffering to stop. Those right there a Anycolor and clique simps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196605
I believe it

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196605
Elira pulling a Frank Grimes would be the most hilarious shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196762
By who? Niji?

[Anonymous No.]

The true tragedy of this whole ordeal is now I can’t jerk off to the entirety of NijiEN without feeling morally wrong, and I can’t watch clips of them without feeling like I’m supporting bullies.

I just want to beat off to cute anime girls and guys and watch them be dorks anons why did it turn out like this

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196925
Actually doesn't matter. She made several incriminating statements about herself and others that greatly increase her risk in terms of a lawsuit, I can't possibly believe Niji still hasn't talked to a real lawyer, and they will have told her to shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195797
cute homely girl. would date. Maybe not if all this stuff is true tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>69196680
She had to open up art commissions and sell old merch stock of her PL just to make rent and pay hospital bills. Yeah she left Niji super rich alright.

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>>69195797
NGL would make a decent slam pig

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>>69197125
Depends on what version you believe. If she let Niji pressure her into self-destructing she's incredibly submissive at worst. Not my jam but it isn't necessarily a red flag if you're into NTR because someone so easily pushed around is never going to say no.

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>>69196605
kek imagine

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>>69197149
She's also now made like 50k already last time I checked. Makes you wonder just how much of a cut Niji is taking.

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>>69190143
>this is somehow a big deal/ own
It is for someone as petty as you, Elira.Your name will remembered with disdain and hatred. Your action will be remembered as the cause of the fall for NijiEN.
Meanwhile Doki will thrive, Doki will achieve success. People will remember Doki and what she has done for her community. She will get to 1M subs before than you, and you know what? She will actually manage to recieve and keep her golden play button.

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>>69195797
would if she paid me

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>>69197081
But her statements don't incriminate her, they incriminate niji. UNless the GUrrat is true and she really is the EN manager.

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>>69197440
>Elira traveled to Japan
>She's probably seen her play button proudly on display in Niji offices
>Knows exactly how badly she was cucked and how badly everyone is being cucked
>Gets cucked even harder by Doki
How mad is Elira right now? Is she going to an hero next or will she be locked in a room until they make her commit sudoku for the damage she did to the brand?

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>>69197248
What's a slam pig?

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>>69197619
Anon. She acted as a representative of Nijisanji. She is entirely liable if there is ever an actual case. "My boss made me do it" doesn't really hold up in court, nor does "Uhhh I didn't know the things I talked about were incredibly illegal".

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>>69186112
Peto is besto

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idk where to dump this so here you go. I ain't wasting my time to not post this shit. now I can mentally close the thread.

>>69197056
Because of the nature of injury, and the fact that she was released into her parents care, their "being mindful of her health" is to go through her emergency contact before and after she was released.
She wouldn't have been released if they had gotten to the point of being "unable to come to an agreement" while she was still being observed.
They reached that point sometime after she was released. Likely somewhere around the time she tried to an hero a second time.

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>>69197760
A 5/10 that you would use to relieve yourself sexually every now and then with no emotional attachment or investment.

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>>69197619
It actually would, in fact

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>>69188974
Kek. You must not know how Doki looks.

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>>69198007
All nijitalents are ugly
This is known

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>>69196744
fatness has nothing to do with voice. just because you're coping hard doesn't make it real.

[Anonymous No.]

>Runies going to get a lewd Daki.
Is it going to be lewder than Wemis?

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>>69198283
NTA, and I have no stake in whatever you guys are arguing about, but weight CAN make someones voice different, especially if they are majorly fat. However, it doesn't always happen. You're picture is a great example of one who didn't. Sadly, it can be hard to tell just by voice alone unless they are so fat they can barely walk.

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>>69198346
I hate this artist so fucking much i cant even put it into words

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>>69198283
Being talented exempts him from the rule

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>>69188974
Im gonna be honest with you chief, this rrat only makes sense because there is no group cattier than a bunch of landwhales to another whale.

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>>69197951
Nahone.

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>>69198491
wdym those expressions of abject terror are fantastic.

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>>69198283
Think you replied to the wrong post there buddy, because I was saying the same thing.

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this clip has interesting implications if elira was a manager...
https://youtu.be/NeiNB4iK0YQ?si=rL3-M-OIdBt2tPXd

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>>69198677
It would be good if she were staring at an eldritch horror. She's just watching her brother jack off. And then the brother does the same face. All of their smut has them making that pog face during sex

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>>69192833
you understimate how resilent the vtuber audience is
mikecat is still unscratched

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>>69196948
Just imagine you're raping them when you do it, that makes it morally right

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>>69195476
>while Niji continued to thrive.
thrive is a strong word anon
2023 was not a thriving year for nijisanji
events cancellations, krisis losing a member + design leaks, ttt having almost no promotion, Nina and Mysta graduating,

now comes 2024
pomu already gone, kyo gone tomorrow, Selen causing the biggest PR scandal possible, Raziel slandering Luca with receipts, the Elira stream

Thrive is really a strong word to attach do nijiEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>69198867
>ESL
>Retarded
>NDF
Adds up

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>>69184149
How many subs?

>>69184783
The best part will always be Mysta's post at the bottom.

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>>69198731
It would be hilarious if it turns out all the manager and clique rrats are false. It turns out that instead management is just really, really fucking stupid and inconsistent.
There is no clique, there is no favoritism. Some people just got really lazy and incompetent mangers and others got actually good ones. Elira did not decide to make that video by herself, management did.

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>>69199234
that's a lot of cope but the truth was there all along. all the breadcrumbs over the last two years have been leading up to this truth.

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>>69199234
>There is no favoritism
Explain how Elira has more than anyone else in EN despite not having the numbers to deserve it

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>>69199234
>there is no favoritism
this actually can't be untrue, at least in terms of Luxiem
and Vox comes out and even confirms he got a slap on the wrist for the covid tweet and try to spin the topic with "I don't get favoritism because I get reprimanded other times"

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>>69198720
We've all talked to fat people anon, I shouldn't have to whip out pubmed.
>The voice of the obese becomes discreetly hoarse, breathless, and unstable. The most frequent videolaryngoscopic findings in obese patients are hyperemia and edema of vocal folds and posterior pachydermia, related to acid laryngitis, secondary to gastroesophageal reflux.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31648859/

Still, Selen is in the right, just don't talk utter nonsense

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>>69193158
>management

But...

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>>69199234
Anon that still makes Elira functionally retarded at best. Either she didn't realise (how?) or didn't care that it was utter career suicide to do something like this, and that's ignoring the fact that she's committing a public attempt at shaming a former employee who recently tried to kill herself... She claims she volunteered. One of the things they said in that stream is that "She could leave at any time". If that's a lie, they know they're lying, if it's not a lie then why do this and not leave? Especially at a time where the fanbases are clearly rallying behind performers over Nijisanji

I find it hard to believe that not only Elira, but the other two as well are so utterly functionally retarded. These aren't toddlers.

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>>69199425
Because she got the good manager and selen and others got the retard manger.

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>>69199234
It's likely the case (after all, Pomu's manager is in Akiberse), but imagining it as a bumblefuck of talents managing talents is fun.

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>>69188974
doki is also fat

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>>69186449
I don't know but she's collabed with some holos before.

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>>69199657
>only elira got "the good manager"
>elira is "the retarded manager"
everything adds up...

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>>69199582
They were pissed and they made the video in anger. I also have to believe that one of those three (more than likely Elira) was also responsible for the "we declare we did nothing illegal" tweet. That tweet comes off as pissed off. They are both functionally retarded but also so fucking pissed they're doing things without thinking.

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>>69199513
>Anon says someone sounds fat, you can tell! It's common knowledge!
>See here it says obese people become 'discreetly' (anon clearly doesn't know what this word means, lmao) hoarse, breathless and unstable
>The person he's talking about exhibits none of those traits, nor would it be 'obvious' as that is rather the opposite of 'discreet'
>There is a mountain of evidence of performers who have greatly gained and lost weight over the course of their careers and their voices not changing to the point where you could tell how fat their were based on their voices alone.
You can keep trying, but I'll just be laughing my ass off at your utter stupidity, ESL-kun.

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>>69199675
honestly not surprising, depression leads to eating disorders

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>>69184149
you can't stop what's already in motion
it's been 10 days, we all know the ride won't end here

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>>69199675
B A S E D

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>>69184149
Congrats Elira, I'm happy for you!

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>>69199582
idk if you've watched elira play JRPGs before, it does give the impression she's kind of fucking dumb.

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>>69184783
>shitting on Council
Seems like pretty tame banter to me. HoloEN members are likely having similar conversations during this shit show.

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>>69184149
>The drama is already dead

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>>69187624
Is this the stream where she said nigger?

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>>69200140
they're munching on popcorn
Except Mumei I guess, she already did during Twilight watching

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>>69186449
dont think so but i hope talks about anya, and maybe collabs with her haha. that should be fun hah

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>>69199866
>They were pissed and they made the video in anger.
Again, that'd require them to be monumentally stupid, all three of them. I could believe one of them is an 80IQ retard but all three? Nah dog. This was malice. The timing of the statement being a coincidence is too unbelievable to just accept without firm proof to the contrary.
>They are both functionally retarded but also so fucking pissed they're doing things without thinking.
I know the popular saying is to not attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity. But this really just has to be malice. You can be dumb as a rock and angry as hell but non-malicious people still wouldn't try to publicly shame their suicidal 'friend'.

And again, I can buy that maybe one of them is that dumb, but all three? Naw. Has to be malice.

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>>69199907
sorry about your fatness. keep telling yourself that if you keep the zoom camera off nobody will know. you don't like the word discreet (which in this medical context means not harmful to communication) so let's try the next one! don't worry, there's more.
>Obese individuals exhibit the following modifications in voice feature: hoarseness, murmuring, vocal instability, altered jitter and shimmer, and reduced maximum phonation times as well the presence of voice strangulation at the end of emission.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11695-009-9959-7

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Reconstructed (as of now) timeline of events, according to the GURRAT:
>NijisanjiEN was founded in 2020 with its own dedicated management team. Said team left the company to start a NFT venture in December of that year. Ex-NijiIN member Noor is then put in charge to fill their place, so from almost the beginning it was talents managing talents.
>>/vt/thread/68273408#p68280109
>The first set of auditions resulted in 6 members being contracted, though only 3 debuted at first under Lazulight, one of those members was Elira, whose knowledge of the japanese language seemingly gained her the favoritism from the higher-ups early on, as indicated by the company letting her choose the theme for her second outfit while Pomu hadn’t such a benefit.
>>/vt/thread/69142853#p69147004
>Said favoritism also translated into Elira getting more merch released than any other member of Lazulight.
>>/vt/thread/68996770#p69009739
>The second set of auditions was for the third and fourth waves. The third wave is Ethyria, which contains two of Elira’s PL friends, Enna and Millie, indicating that they may have been hired through nepotism, a testament to the influence of Elira inside the branch.
>As the branch grew in members, Elira would need some sort of assistance to forward communications between it and the japanese side, and so Enna and Millie, who also speak the language, became involved in the process.
>>/vt/thread/69014403#p69023271
>Jumping straight to 2023, Noor is replaced with Yasuhiro Harry Igarashi as head of management for NijisanjiEN, somebody who treats this position as a part-time job, meaning that he is less involved with the branch than Noor, which left a power vacuum that Elira and her friends could monopolize for themselves.
>>/vt/thread/68033404#p68043182
>May 23rd of 2023, Selen misses the deadline for the recording of a voice pack and mentions wanting a representative so it wouldn’t happen again. Getting a representative would incite other members to do the same, making Elira’s role as a translator between the EN branch and Anycolor pointless. And so, Elira possibly proceeded to convince management proper (she’s ''shadow management'', a liaison, after all) to suspend Selen and have her given the warning that one more infraction would mean that she’s out of the company.
>>/vt/thread/69142853#p69142989
>In the months that followed, Elira appears to have done an internal smear campaign against Selen, trying to convince most of the members of the branch to get rid of her. And as such, would attempt to isolate Selen from the rest of the company as much as she could.
>This isn’t the first time they harassed a member to make them leave the company as proved by this screenshot: >>/vt/thread/68412484#p68438814
>December 2023, the shitfest involving Selen’s MV occurs. Selen attemps suicide after continuous harassment from other members and Elira has to assume responsibility, so in the 27th she announced to the public she would have to to take care of affairs involving health issues in her family, as a way to cover what really had transpired behind closed doors.
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129835
>>/vt/thread/69036707#p69039165
>In a membership stream, Elira would link the health issues tweet with her dog. A dog that hasn’t been mentioned ever before, leading to the supposition that it was a roundabout way of saying that she views Selen as a female dog, in other words a bitch.
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129671
>>/vt/thread/69120347#p69129854
>February 13th, 2023, Elira releases the now infamous ‘‘A Message From NIJISANJI EN’’ video. She mentions having read the legal documents about Selen/Doki’s case, even though it was only meant to be seen by Dokibird, her lawyers, and Anycolor’s management. The only way she could have gotten ahold of them it’s if she was involved with management herself. With her being the primary translator between members of the EN branch and the japanese higher-ups, it isn’t unexpected that the japanese would rely on her to translate the contents of the documents.
>>/vt/thread/68996770#p68999584
Take into account that each member have their side of their story and so, as they may come forward with their versions, there could arise contradictory or previously unknown details. For example, Pomu was possibly in friendly terms with Elira until the end of her tenure at NijisanjiEN, with her discontent seemingly stemming from conflicts with proper management: >>/vt/thread/68033404#p68035166

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>>69200081
no..quite the opposite? she acts like she doesn't know what's going on but is playing it up. she's very sinister overall

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>>69199907
I've never seen someone obviously type so fat before

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>>69200329
they're not clearly malicious, just incompetent and trying to cover their burning asses by throwing Selen under the bus.

It's a coward's play, not a villain's play.

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>>69187517
Sadly, they were very comfy and I love her voice and her dorky sense of humor (which all makes it hurt even more and makes me feel super betrayed)
It honestly feels like the Chuck reveal in Better Call Saul: That cool older sibling figure isn't really as "cool" as you've though

t.Dokifag, but I used to watch lots of Elira too

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>>69199907
use your brain for two seconds and ask yourself if you would you sound different if you had tissues stuck in your upper airway. Those tissues are LITERAL TISSUE you fat piece of shit and they do make people sound different

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>>69200342
>Anon gets BTFO
>Reverts to kindergarten-tier 'uhhhh.... uhhhh.... ur fat!' nonsense
Lmao. Keep going buddy, you're doing grrreat!
>Tries to find a different source
>Comes up with something explicitly talking about extreme morbid obesity while he was previously just talking about being fat
>The symptoms listed still don't match the person he was talking about
>Still doesn't disprove what was said in the post he replied to
Bro please. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Your brain is clearly not getting enough oxygen.

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>>69199907
>t.fat

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i liked some of her fanart

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>>69194336
“you should be thankful for working at our company”
do wagies really

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>>69199796
Stars or Live? I only see a collab with Fuma, and wtf, how'd that even happen?

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>>69200731
>morbid obese people aren't fat
I'm not chasing your goalposts fatty

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>>69184149
>14k sub difference
STOP THE COUNT ELIRA WON STOPPP

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>>69200140
This was a WAY bigger event at that time not because of what was being said but the timing.

Sana was not gaining much ground. She hadn't been streaming very much and was basically stagnating. The Discord leak comes out talking shit about how Council isn't doing well financially and with numbers. That leak came out almost around the exact same time that it was revealed the reason why Sana hadn't been streaming much was because she suffered a major back injury and was in too much pain to stream properly, even though she had been trying.

Fulgur obviously didn't know this, but shitting on the lack of success of the latest debuted group and one of those members suffering from a medical injury is definitely going to piss off a lot of people.

In hindsight it's not benign but during that time it was a constant discussion that Sana was "holding up" Council's success because she wasn't growing as fast as the others were.

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>>69200498
Throwing someone under the bus is malicious mate, especially when they had no real reason to. Nobody knew about livers bullying until they said so. Nobody knew any names until they named themselves. That stuff is all dumb as hell but the fact that they went out to talk about this shit in the first place is just openly malicious. They had the option to say nothing at all. And it's not just one incident.

Selen's termination notice was full of attempts at disparaging her publicly, you can sort of still dismiss this as them just wanting to give a clear picture of why they fired her but the content and wording comes off as extremely petty. They also knew at this time that the person they were talking about had tried to commit suicide. All they had to do was say "due to difficulties with management NijiEN has decided to terminate Selen Tatsuki" and not go into specifics. Again, you can sort of handwave this away as them just being incredibly stupid.

The shareholder statement however? Nah dog. That can only be described as incredibly evil. If you genuinely believe this statement was meant for investors then I have a bridge to sell you. Even Riku himself publicly apologised for this shit because how blatantly bad it was. This wasn't a professional or even sensible statement. It said nothing to shareholders because it's nothing beside >'don't worry dawg it's negligible'
>How is losing one of our biggest EN talents negligible?
>'......'
No. Specifically saying a suicidal ex-employee 'departure' is negligible is just bafflingly evil. Might as well just have outright said "yea you won't be missed, try again"

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>>69199234
Let me ask you a question. If you, a liver, don't agree with something but your mangement is holding a gun to your head to get you to do it despite it being an obvious idea, do you a) just try to get it over with, or b) go all in on fake crying and/or struggle to hold back your laughter while you victim blame?

There is no reality in which that video resulted from unwilling participants

[Anonymous No.]

>>69200643
>Just imagine I'm actually right despite all evidence to the contrary! Imagine the tissue anon! Tissue is like tissues!
>Tissue is like tissues
>Tissue is like tissues
Nigger. What the fuck.

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>>69200731
>fatness has nothing to do with voice
was this your quote anon

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>>69184783
Mysta's part is as hilarious as it is depressing. I wouldn't wish having to endure 2 years of Nijisanji on my worst enemy.

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>>69187738
hoooooly kek

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>>69192516
yeah everyone in NijiEN lost about 6~8k after selens termination.

Elira lost 14k subs in a single day when she uploaded the video and nearing another 14k since.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69201388
>all evidence to the contrary
Oh shit, so you're just bad at bait

[Anonymous No.]

>>69201392
Nope. Wrong guy. Try again nigger.

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>>69200347
Blessed be the GURRAT, may it lead us to the truth

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>>69201499
>*Ahem* I was merely pretending.
K.

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>>69199957
Wait, there are multiple ones? Is there a third? Who is the girl is this one? I have this one with dizzy.

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>>69199675
Would

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>>69201608
so then what are you arguing about if it's not that vocal quality isn't tied to fat

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>>69201678
what evidence did you give you... and can you stop roleplaying through greentext like a weirdo or I'm going to take off my wizard robes

[Anonymous No.]

>>69193717
Finana was wrong too.
Livers pay cut is less in Kurosanji so while luxium was making just as much in superchats they were making less money as livers.
While the company was earning much more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69200347
This is probably 90% accurate. Frankly I think the remaining 10% is in some places assuming intelligent actors when bad, greedy people were just being retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195087
> Without joining Nijisanji they'd be a sub 100 indie
Ren had higher subcount as an indie than he does in NijiEN kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69195476
>Sayu was a low 3view shitter while niji continues to thrive
>High 3view shitter is somehow much better

[Anonymous No.]

post rape so I can imagine it happening for real

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184149
cool
now /vt/ can return to being a holoboard again while nijien goes back to irrelevancy

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>>69201814
>Trying to move the goalposts again
Put them back anon. Obesity and Fat exist as different words for a reason and not for some ESL faggot to use them interchangeably.
>B-but obese people are also fat!
Right, but you're only talking about specifically the former and not the latter, and you were pretending to talk about the latter and not the former. Again, put those goalposts back and leave them alone you disingenuous little weasel.

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>>69184333
you can say niga on 4chan

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>>69201905
>What evidence did you give!
For what? Remember you're still trying to prove a girl sounds 'fat', and have utterly failed to do so. Why am I meant to be proving a negative here? I'd ask if you're retarded but at this point that much is evident.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69201280
Never cared about Fulgur's statement at all, shitposters just used it as an opportunity to shit on nijien
t. sanallite

[Anonymous No.]

>>69201703
yeah you missed the second one

[Anonymous No.]

>>69200347
The best rrat I have seen in these last couple years

[Anonymous No.]

>>69202494
>For what?
Are you drunk? you said "all the evidence to the contrary." Shouldn't drink your calories. Still waiting on all that evidence to the contrary.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69202631
KINOOO
damn these are cool I should hang out in /tsunX/ more. Thanks.

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>>69202224
she's consistently been a 4view now, on both YouTube and Twitch since she streams simultaneously. she's bigger than most of the currently active en nijis at this point.

the normie video that mentions her positively that got over a million billions probably didn't hurt either.

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>>69202613
sanalite, what are your thoughts on the sana/fulgur crackship?

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>>69202746
stop replying to fat women
>typing quirks of a fat woman
>fatbrained like a fat woman
>illiterate like a fat woman
>refuses to shut up like a fat woman
STOP REPLYING TO FAT WOMEN

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>>69202989
initially annoyed by it because it spilled to /nasa/ but I just stopped caring after a week

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Why are we saying Elira is some shadow clique supervillain? Doki only sent docs to NijiEN and listed some names. We don't even know why they were listed. It could range from "they xxxx me" to "these guys were treated better than me by management!"
I can understand taking doki's side but even if you accept that there was bullying, why Elira's shadow clique? Is there actually any basis or is it just rrats off their names included in the doc?

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As a Doki fan, I seriously don't care anymore what they do from now on as long as they leave us alone. Go ahead and have a miserable, exploitative practice away from us. I'm just glad she's alive and streaming, and the future looks bright.

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>>69202746
>You said all evidence to the contrary
Again, look at literally any performer who changed weight during their careers. If you can find me some that sound identifiably different then we'll be done here pretty quick. You couldn't even manage that. That's evidence, the fact that it's not *specific* isn't my problem, it's yours. Or what, you expect a written list of performers who had significant changes in weight during their careers? Ask google you monkey.
>Still waiting on all that evidence
Me too. You're still trying to argue a "girl sounds fat" and the best you've come up with "people who are morbidly obese have discreet changes in their voice".

[Anonymous No.]

>>69203235
everything is in the GURRAT including how Elira got into power.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69203011
Trying a but too hard mate, but here's a (You), you must be starving to be this desperate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69203235
Elira self reported her clique by mentioning Enna and Millie out of nowhere

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>>69199425
They are trying to daisenpai Elira as the "First" nijiEN member when she was anything but. She has nothing in common with Mito.
Pomu was Niji EN's Mito. Both her eccentrics and popularity with none Niji-fans. Elira was Kaede, ok but nothing notable other than a few scream moments but nobody but her own fanbase watches her, while Finana was Rin- just there for the sex appeal and with a serious game addiction (Rin had over a year of nothing but FF14 videos, Finana nothing but Mihoyo/gacha).

But no they are pushing Elira as first because her debut video was "first" but that's a contradiction. Look at Vox, he wasn't the first male debut (last of the wave even), he was just the one who had the biggest explosion. How NijiEN handled Pomu/Elira would be the same as putting Luca in every merch at a 3:1 ratio over Vox because he was "first".

It's blatant favoritism.

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>>69203437
> Based on measurements of body mass index in combination with body fat volume, 29 normophonic female subjects were classified as normal weight, underweight, and obese.
>Significant differences between the three weight groups were found across several measures of intensity, VC, MPT, and shimmer.
>https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24408481/

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>>69203235
Why are you asking here instead of reading any of the elaborate write-ups on the subject? Get the fuck outta here Nijisister, it's obvious you're just trying to pretend there information out there isn't as elaborate as it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188295
OMG IS THAT REAL

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>>69184783
>niji thriving

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>>69203581
>Normal weight
>UNDERweight
>OBESE
Oh look, trying to move the goalposts again. Anon you can keep citing research about obese people, but that's not what you were saying and it's not going to work.

I repeat, you're trying to prove. a girl sounds fat. You're not even taking steps in that direction, you're drunkenly stumbling about.

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>>69194121
Damn that fourth image
>A lone Selen surrounded by everyone in the clique who threw her under the bus in the statement and Enna (also in the clique)
Grim.

[Anonymous No.]

how much do you think elira is seething over all this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190143
Cry in 2% more faggot

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>>69184149
OP is such an obvious falseflag
why don't you guys make a /drama/ general faggots

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>>69203821
Ugly cried for sure.

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>>69203746
NTA but shut the fuck up, you've moved seven goalposts or so and it's not helping anyone, certainly not helping obese selen. Saying fat people have fat voices isn't even something fat people disagree with, and MOST FAT PEOPLE IN THE US ARE OBESE so this stupid distinction you keep making is fucking retarded

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>>69203821
I'm not sure if she has time to seethe, she's been sexually servicing the whole staff for over 24 hours nonstop now. Notice the radio silence.

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>>69203821
She was so mad she committed PR suicide and got Riku to step in so I imagine the response to her announcement and being tardwrangled hasn't exactly improved her disposition.

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>>69203746
>>69203936
both of you fat fucks stop talking about being fat.

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>>69203936
she's canadian. but most fat canadians are obese too.

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>>69203936
>N-no you moved the goalposts!
Sure buddy. I've brought us back to the original topic four times now because I just really moved those goalposts. Seems like the discord pack is outing themselves now lmao.
>MOST FAT PEOPLE IN THE US ARE OBESE
See this is what moving the goalposts actually means. You're now trying to make it sound like fat and obese are interchangeable and when you said 'she sounds fat' you actually meant 'she is obese and you can tell by the sound of her voice'. The 'evidence' to this that you've posted lists symptoms not displayed by the person you're talking about, so you're wrong on that count too. All those mistakes, all those fuckups and you're still at it?

Know when to take the L. Loser.

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>>69203991

Et-o anonsan, she has as you American say “srob on my nob-u rike corn on the cob-u”

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>Doki
>Just finished streaming a while ago
>5view, 28k peak playing an oldass batman game
>literally more viewers in one stream than Elira has had in the entirety of 2024
>550,000 subs, literally the fastest growing VTuber in the world.
>About to make a bigger carrier in 1 week than Elira made in 3 years working at Nijisanji


>>>>Elira won

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>>69204181
>when you said 'she sounds fat' you actually meant 'she is obese and you can tell by the sound of her voice'
yes that is what I mean, thank you

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>>69184149
>Elira won
OH NO NO NO

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>>69187411
>he's the guy in the server that does the unsolicited trauma dumps out of pocket that turn the conversation awkward

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>>69184149
The drama will die down, but L Ira isn't winning anything.

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>>69188295
niji蓬勃发展

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>>69200347
>leading to the supposition that it was a roundabout way of saying that she views Selen as a female dog, in other words a bitch.

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>>69204620
And as we've established that's not true either. So why are you still posting? You've self reported by proving that the effects of obesity on someone's voice aren't present in the person you're talking about. How many times do you need tell on yourself?

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>>69200279
that was Sonny that did that

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>>69202413
>>69184333
Nigger

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>>69204620
Selen sounds fat, that doesn't make her a BPD demon

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For anyone who is discussing about who and who's not fat, don't let the diabetes get to you.

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>>69184149
>Lost over 4% of her subscibers
she did it

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>>69202989
Fulgur is gay. Not a fruity fake like uki. But just gay.

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>>69203235
Scroll up

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>>69203235
Read this: >>69200347

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>>69203557
I remember the dai senpai clip and how she played it down. At first I thought it was modesty, but now, maybe trying to keep her head down?

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>>69205150
Might seem like a small number to some, but the majority of those will have been active subs instead of random wanderers that liked one stream and subbed to her. These are the people paying attention to and somewhat involved in the scene and are the most likely to buy membership, send supachats and buy merch.

People who just casually listen to an animegirl with a nice voice talk after work won't even be aware of much of the drama unless the algorithm decides to feed it to them.

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>>69201703
Rosemi's Tsunderia PL

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>>69204384
Check in with me, and do your job

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>>69184783
Always get a laugh whenever I see this. Niji has always seethed at Hololives existence while 99% of the Holos literally do not give a fuck about them or their company. Such pathetic existences.