The real reason Selen had a poor relationship with Elira

[Anonymous No.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPmKj39Mumo
>Challenges the other NijiEN girls to a “kill race”, expecting to win easily
>they turn out to be much better players than she anticipated
>start racking up kills while she is getting wiped out instantly
>slowly dawns on her she’s going to lose
>Finana sniping like a god, Elira proficiently wiping entire teams
>Selen suffers a complete mental breakdown, once again the laughing stops and she grows cold
>starts making excuses, Elira just chuckles a bit at her the whole time
>later Selen clipped the vod to remove the menhera rant, but it’s still in Elira’s vod

Basically the seethe is purely from Selen's side to getting shit on and taunted by Elira in APEX and she held a grudge ever since. There were very little, if any interactions between those two ever since this happened.

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>>69177691
I'm not watching a 4 hour video

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
timestamp for the rant?

[Anonymous No.]

Seems reasonable.

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>>69177691
I remember this stream, it's why I stopped watching Selen for a while after she acted like that

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>>69177691
Timestamp for the rant or piss off. I'm not watching Elira for 4 hours unless it's paizuri porn.

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>>69177691
They removed the part where Selen jokes about killing herself. But all the girls dropped by her stream to say they love her iirc.
Looking back at it it's crazy that Selen could've killed herself there

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>>69177691
I've never watched her or Selen before because I'm not a nijinig but tgen Doki blew up in my Twitter recommendations and trying to piece all this together from the end to start there's a lot of horseshit in Doki's statements and her actions reek of pity baiting you normally find in certain types of narcissists. I can only speculate but I think when Elira or one of the others are shit canned and blacklisted I wouldn't pit it past them to do a quiet doc drop woth receipts. It won't happen yet because they think they still have a career they can salvage.

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I believe her suicide attempts but I assumed from the beginning that the bullying was basically that she took the same amount of shade every member throws at each other and just took it as horrible abuse. Tons of people forget how fragile Selen has been from debut onward, picking fights then crying the moment anyone responds.

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>>69177691
>There were very little, if any interactions between those two ever since this happened.
Jesus imagine that this is one of the examples of "bullying" she experienced.

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>>69177691
>Nijifags scouring through every vod to find any reason to bring Selen down and twist the narrative.
Sad

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>>69178755
Listen to this anon NDF. Don't try to search for the truth.

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>>69177691
why do you lie?

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>>69177691
Sisters can you at least give me a timestamp, then I might believe you

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>>69177691
>selen is fragile
sure
anyway, niji still treated her like shit and acted in an inhumane manner and are directly responsible for the drama and issues they've created

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>>69179129
>treated her like shit
How?
>inhumane
Like what?
>directly responsible
How?

[Anonymous No.]

Compilation of Selen’s menhera moments
Breakdown 1:
>playing Apex with bonbon, fun stream
>suddenly get messaged by Gorilla they’re looking for another team for their tournament
>she agrees out of pride, although you can see her suddenly get really nervous
>the tournament happens, she gets completely shit on
>starts getting more and more anxious, the laughing stopped
>getting angry and frustrated with BonBon because he’s a worse player than her, ordering him around and frustrated he doesn’t listen
>has something of a mental breakdown, the mood completely changed, people watching are genuinely worried about her.

Breakdown 2:
>enters another tournament, gets teamed up with BonBon because they get along well in the past
>this time BonBon promises to follow her instructions
>get completely shit on again, can barely even kill a single person and get wiped every time
>once again, the mood goes cold
>no more laughing, quiet angst and brooding anger
>Bonbon wants to switch characters to his main, she gets extremely angry and they fight on stream
>by the end, stress levels are at maximum
>BonBon has a crying breakdown on stream, openly sobbing (blames it on kidney stones)
>Selen and Bonbon’s relationship is permanently damaged

Breakdown 3:
>Challenges the other NijiEN girls to a “kill race”, expecting to win easily
>they turn out to be much better players than she anticipated
>start racking up kills while she is getting wiped out instantly
>slowly dawns on her she’s going to lose
>Finana sniping like a god, Elira proficiently wiping entire teams
>Selen suffers a complete mental breakdown, once again the laughing stops and she grows cold
>starts making excuses, Elira just chuckles a bit at her the whole time
>later Selen clipped the vod to remove the menhera rant, but it’s still in Elira’s vod

Breakdown 4:
>wants to play MGR to impress Pomu
>gamer girl can play on normal mode no problem right?
>she sucked, she sucked really bad
>couldn't even beat the tutorial miniboss
>chat is telling her she sucks, she goes menhera
>stops the game, plays every single tutorial while badmouthing chat
>viewers plummet and never bounce back
>somewhat recovers by the end of the stream, but still a painful experience
>says she won't play any more Metal Gear games cursing "backseaters"

Breakdown 5:
>collab with RPR and some other guy
>shitting the bed
>RPR and the other dude keep bantering about her choking
>Selen ends the collab early saying she doesn't feel well and can't perform

Breakdown 6:
>playing in Vsaikyo with Axel and Altare from Tempus after Axel invited her
>they do alright in practice/scrims
>on the day of the tournament they do well in game 1 but then they do poorly in the next 3 games
>Still top 10 overall despite everything that happened by the end of game 4
>Selen tilted off the face of the earth in game 4 and went for a walk
>comes back for start of game 5, still tilted, and proposed they should just play for fun instead of playing to win
>"i just want to shoot my guns"
>Axel still wants to play to win to at least secure a half decent placement
>the coach sides with Selen and suggests they just play for fun
>they try to 4fun it
>they're the first team to die in game 5
>it tanks their overall placement and they finish the tournament in a humiliating 17th place out of 20 teams
>Selen goes radio silent for several days before releasing a statement on twitter giving excuses for her poor performance and saying that all the coaches agreed that she was in the right

found this in the archives, Sep 26, 2023, i am merely copy pasting it for you

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
I dont need watch 4 hours stream of this whore to know op lied.

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>>69179386
I just watched it and it's all true, unfortunately.

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>>69179376
you gotta bring the timestamps or secondary accounts otherwise it's just rrats but this is a good post

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>>69179583
link then

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>>69179376
Yeah she's always been a menhera, each one of these left a bad taste when it happened and had me stop watching her for awhile. No one can deny that she's crazy. That doesn't justify how she's been treated or make Anycolor any less of a black company, though.

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>>69177691
I bet this so-called "menhera rant" is just lighthearted banter and OP is an autist who can't read social cues.

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>>69179583
Then answer the anon up there. Motherfucker has been asking for a timestamp.

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I'm shocked. This shit (and similar moments people against niji used to make fun of and shit on Selen) used to be plastered all over the board. Is there such a heavy churn of newfags replacing oldfags??

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>>69179376
I remember the MGR one because of how shit she was at it, I thought she was just doing it for content but turns out no she really is that bad at games. The RPR one was the one where he's yelling about her leaving because they bullied her or something?

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>>69177691
So true sis, she was just jealous!

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>>69179806
They're not newfags, they're tourists.

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>>69179806
Yes.

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>>69179806
>he JUST realized we're being facebook raided
>>69179686
anon her account is wiped. go to warosu, search "selen apex menhera", and click on anything before new years and you will see swathes of posts complaining about her breakdowns, even from her own fans begging her to put apex down and just chill with dragoons instead of try harding for males

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>>69179748
of course it doesn't in fact it should elicit more pity since someone like her is more sensitive to things like management stonewalling her/hurting her projects

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>>69179806
go back to /alter/ tourist and patiently await Albert's next paid holo/FGO collab.

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>>69179376
Yes, Selen was not perfect. Far from it, in fact. She was menhera, sweaty, salty, maybe even a little too sensitive.

It doesn't change the fact Kurosanji is kuro, the clique is real and abused their power, and EN branch needs to die.

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>>69179824
The MGR thing was her trolling backseaters in chat

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>>69179376
see >>69179129

[Anonymous No.]

Still not seeing any proofs.

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>>69179989
>more pity
Ni, it shows a pattern of behavior of Selen shitting the bed when something doesn't go her way and blaming others for it during her episodes

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>>69179806
Smarter oldfags than (You) don't point this out, retard. Let the tourists be useful for once.

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>>69180110
Bc there is no proof retard.

[Anonymous No.]

33 posts. No timestamp. And we know NDF has a private discord to coordinate rapid narratives.

Hmmmm

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>>69179763
I want to believe OP really is just an autist and this stupid

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>>69180179
How did you know I'm Vox Akoomer in the flesh?

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>>69180097
see >>69179989

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>>69179824
Didn't she beat DMC1 tho? I saw it on my recommended but never ended up watching it .

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>>69180062
kurosanji is kuro and it always will be, but it does bring the credibility of selen's character into question as well as if the clique (which isn't a problem just by existing) acted maliciously towards her or if she just imagined it during her menhera outbreaks

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>>69177691
Yes, we know that Selen can dish it out but can't take it. Doesn't make what Kurosanji did any better.

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>>69177691
oh is this where that, don't let us down like a certain apex predator reference is from?

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Selen do get salty sometimes, but I remember all of these moments, all these narratives are highly exaggerated and this post is very likely a product of NDF

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>>69178856
>Don't try to search for the truth.
I still don't understand why Enna made that grimdark joke about how she could kill someone and her fans would support her. Was it boasting or guilt?

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>>69177691
If Im not wrong, there was a full post of selen menhenra moments. Someone have it?

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>>69180124
Just like if you look into Niji you find a pattern of behavior where livers are fucked over and livers engaging in retard behavior

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lol love the people calling for timestamps outing themselves as non-streamwatchers

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>>69180378
>>69179376

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>>69177691
Hey Nijisisters from the doxxsite or wherever else, you seem to be under the impression we don't think Selen is a butt-hurt menhera. She is, and we all know it. It literally doesn't matter. The other organs have already made it clear, either by themselves or by Nijsanji, that they're a bullying squad who prioritized their clique's personal interests while ostracizing Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

Humiliating someone in their comfort game sounds like standard bully behavior. Btw it's easy to buy an aim bot.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait, are you implying that the double sudoki girl had shown mental issues?! WOW, UNBELIEVABLE!!!

anyway it doesn't change shit because this public issue wasn't started by her anyway, it's Nijisanji management being actual retards and having the PR habilities of a wolverine.

Good to know that Doki is doing better now, sad to know that she lost her old friends due to her menhera rant that I'm sure is the "document" that they illegally read.

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>>69179376
Wow, you niggers really take games seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
dramabird has always been a drama dragon/bird

[Anonymous No.]

>>69180408
>no proofs

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>>69180414
holy shit, so beating someone that was overconfident on a game is now a form of BULLYING?!

dude, calm down, we all know niji=bad but don't go full retard on us now, it doesn't help doki.

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>>69180496
nigger check her channel right now

[Anonymous No.]

>>69180287
I only see one stream and Ragtag is loading slowly so I can't skip through it to see how far she got. But it is an 8 hour stream. Is it possible to beat DMC1 in 8 hours?

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>>69180373
She's probably thinking along the lines of the truth is so muddied right now whatever you dig up is just going to spread more rumors and lies.

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>>69180301
It's not a question of character, we don't need to take anything she's said on faith because she hasn't said much and doesn't want to say much. Kurosanji does their kuroing in public for all to see. If she was out there making specific accusations and doing mike cat style menhera meltdowns it would be a different thing entirely.

[Anonymous No.]

I'm sure if you spam this shitty board with anti threads for long enough everyone will love your dogshit woman

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>>69179376
>2 years of streaming video games as a sweaty compfag
>only 6 notable incidents of salt on stream
You know, that's not even bad. Most compfags have much worse rates than that. When I played CS:GO ranked I would get super pissed off at least once a week, and I'm completely mentally healthy. That's just how compfagging is.

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>>69177691
>>69179376
What literally none of you doxxsisters seem to understand is that it doesn't matter if doki was an oversensitive menhera, Digging through this shit to justify the utter retardation of nijisanji's response doesn't change their response, Lining up the fucking video with doki's neopets stream is literally the most vindictive and blatant thing ever, Nothing else matters, Literally nothing, It doesn't matter if the document was literally schizo scribbling, It doesn't matter if it was misunderstood translations, The actions and response by niji is LITERALLY the only reason for their downfall, Nothing else matters, No amount of "Kek fat menhera dookiebird kek" posting will change that

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>>69180537
Just checked it and found it, thank you sirs for give proofs it, will masturbate very now

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>>69180438
and you're a cuck trying to make dramabird a thing
why not go back to your closed discord and listen to the Vox ASMRs with your fellow sisters

[Anonymous No.]

if you are talking about 1hr 8min she is just saying she is being a quiet, sweaty try hard...what's the damage?

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>>69180540
Bijou did at least, so yes. Its kinda short.
It's very possible Selen didn't get that far tho. Again, I didn't get to watch it.

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>>69180599
You should at least try to not talk like a girl when you come here sis

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>>69179806
i already felt a huge shift from 2022 /vt/ (admittedly my first year both on this specific board and talking about vtubers on this site at all) and 2023 /vt/. 2024 /vt/ is even worse than that
there's a big difference in what gets ritual posted in the catalog and the tone is ruder than ever, people are just trying to assert themselves with no room for discussion. we had taiwan, bohemian yabsody (and bohemian yabsody part 2 well after many casuals gave up on mknk), we had unicorn meltdowns, and we had pikamee hogwarts but this is really the tortanic or should i say gamergate that has irrevocably changed EN vtubing and i think as this case progresses it's only going to leave more people disillusioned.

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>>69180573 (Me)
And to be clear, a menhera meltdown is exactly what they were trying to provoke with the A Message From Nijisanji EN stream. They almost got it, doki was incredibly flustered and audibly going menhera, but she managed to fight through it, get her words out tactfully, and end the stream.

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I like how this acts like only Selen had problems with how EN is run. Ignoring Nina, Zaion, Mysta, Pomu, and Yugo who all complained of a similar toxic environment.

The gaslighting is real

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>>69180722
Well, here's the stream if you want to watch it sometime.
https://archive.ragtag.moe/watch?v=hrIlx5uAs0s

I've only played it and not beaten it, but I will say that from what I played, it felt more grindy than difficult? Like being able to beat it hinged on grinding until you could buy upgrades.

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>>69180387
when you put it that way it's ironic since doki really belongs in the madhouse with them

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>>69180626
ya know now I think about it, there have been a lot of Apex pro streamer yabs....something about that game brings out the worst in people I swear

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>>69180878
It's standard by the book woman behavior.
>It's your fault for being affected by my behavior.

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>>69179376
CUTE
U
T
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>>69180878
And they all ghost each other as indies except for Nina and Kuro. This whole thing smells like they're trying to cover up some shit and GUR ain't it.

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>>69179376
>Breakdown 1: great exaggeration of Selen's reactions, misleading her obvious teasing like it was actual anger, in truth her being a "toxic gamer" personality was starting to ferment at this point and she was obviously feeding it
>Breakdown 2: Same things of breakdown 1 except that Selen's "toxic gamer" persona had been more stablished, being toxic and teasing even minecraft, again, an obvious persona and not serious tones in any shape or forms
>Breakdown 3: There's the points of the before mentioned points, but she actually got frustrated into this one, merging her persona and actual feelings and expressing her feelings in a more toxic way due it, but you can see that she is trying to joke even though her feelings are make her say things that make her look more like a whiny baby
>Breakdown 4: This one is actually accurate in how bad it was
>Breakdown 5: This one had nothing actually happening and it was just schizos making shit up to justify why she was ending earlier
>Breakdown 6: She actually got frustrated, but not as the post makes it look like, she felt her head was out of place to win which was when she gave a pause to try to clear her head, she couldn't, so she asked to play for fun, even for fun though, she was very dissapointed in being the first squad to die

Here you have anons, the non-NDF version of events and how they actually are

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisis are really this fucked already? Is this the best you can do? It's so over. Rosemi fucking run you stupid bitch. These retards aint gonna save you.

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>>69180903
is DMC1 supposed to be a hard game?
even DMC3 is more strenuous and i'd rate that below Fromsoft difficulty
and i'm assuming they played on hard

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>>69181002
because nijifamily isn't real retard. do you keep up with coworkers?

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>>69177691
>>69179376
Nice timestamps, you fucking ape. You buffoon. You imbecile. You fucking retard. You're so stupid. You come here with a point to prove, haphazardly plaster this wall of text like drunkard at last call, and you don't even bother presenting the actual evidence? God, you're so fucking dumb. They used to throw babies like you off a cliff when it became apparent that you were just going to be a nuisance to the community, but thanks to modernity you get to live and be everyone's problem. You should be ashamed of how fucking stupid you are.

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>>69180775
What I wish would happen is it would hit critical mass and all these people would give up and leave, but I feel like what's more likely to happen is that all the sane people are going to gradually leave the vtuber community until the only thing that's left is 100% schizos. At which point I suppose it's only a matter of time until they do something that destroys themselves. I remember when I had hope for this hobby as something that would pull people out of their slump and improve the world, but I see now that nothing can change the nature of a man.

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>>69180670
That's just her thing now. Drambird because her content is that she causes drama all the time.

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>>69180966
Team based shooter games always create toxic players because you have the option to externalize losses and internalize wins with no obvious repurcussions. Just the nature of the online team based games.

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>>69181072
I wouldn't say DMC1 is all that hard. But it's definitely harder than Metal Gear Rising's tutorial.

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>>69180848
Well she is seeing a therapist and taking medication now. We can assume previously she was never medicated.

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Damnit where are the timestamps for me to jerk off to

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>>69181078
Yes, I have them added on discord, obviously. We go out for wings and pizza on the weekends.

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>>69179748
You're right. Being a menhera doesn't mean she's automatically in the wrong or excuses any harassment or ostracism that happens to her. But it also means that unlike rpr or the holostars boys, their staff and other livers have to deal with this every single day and maintain a professional relationship. The outsiders can simply distance themselves from her and maintain their friendships.

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>>69181045
>TL;DR
>Breakdown 1, 2 , and 5 are fake
>Breakdown 3 and 6 are exaggerated
>Breakdown 4 is accurate

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>>69181260
>Yes, I have them added on discord, obviously. We go out for wings and pizza on the weekends.
What? This is the first time I'm hearing of this, why didn't you invite me?

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>>69180661
This.

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>>69180930
Maybe but the most telling thing to me is that Selen going radio silent had people like rpr and Selen's mama breaching vtuber etiquette to directly ask Niji for a status update, people intricately involved and had something to put on the line by acting out. It doesn't matter if there was awkward moments from Selen before, she was still clearly decent enough to merit concern after a relatively short period of time. The love is clearly there despite her menhara. She's probably tries to be decent.
Nobody professionally is coming out with anecdotes supporting the talents on the other side, sure a lot of breakoffs might be aimed at the company itself but with the harassment cases on the raise you think SOME well known members would attempt to fencesit and make an appeal to character. Instead, nothing. I was membered to Millie for a year and would have made an appeal to her character because she spends all her spare time volunteering and dealing with IRL shit. Her involvement is the most baffling thing to me but it just goes to show you never really know someone

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>>69181324
>fake
Just banter, right?

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>>69181078
Not just nijifamily, how many reincarnated chuubas do you see actually continue to interact with people from their PL? It does happen, especially the group that 2434 jp-side rat fucked in the past year or two, but it is the exception.

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>>69181201
I got the impression from her stream that she probably couldn't see a therapist while as Selen due to the whole lack of an HR department (at least a EN one that functions) and the NDAs they signed....most psych meds require a psych note and can't be purchased OTC retail. Just an assumption though.

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>93 posts
>not a single timestamp
this is the most low effort gaslight I've ever seen

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>>69177691
>Sneed Fatsuki had a toxic gamer moment and malded live

What does that has to do with the fact Elira is management and has been sinking the whole NijiEN branch?

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>>69177691
This is well known. This board literally made fun of her for it. Literally has nothing to do with EN’s retarded response and actions.

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>>69181348
Because you play League Eric and we can't tolerate that, I'm sorry you had to find out this way.

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>>69179129
While I won't agree that Niji treated her poorly (how they handled her projects or the tourney she wanted to setup), I was a dragoon since a few months after her debut. She is in fact very fragile especially when it comes to Apex. If you saw how she did in the Customs tournament you'd understand. ANYTHING that exposes her FPS ability or shortcomings gets her super emotional. She broke down after one of the tourneys (IDR which one, it was back in 2022) and she even had some issues with what RPR was saying when he played with her and some other dude when she was getting put through the meat grinder.

The fact you don't remember these means you're either a drama tourist or not a real dragoon who did their reps.

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>>69180573
>because she hasn't said much and doesn't want to say much
she's said and implied a lot in places like pic related even if she thinks she didn't fire shots first like with the call to ask people to reupload her cover while management addresses perms however legitimate you or anyone else thinks that is
i'm none of the involved lawyers so i can't say for certain but this is clearly something that's been escalating for a while

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post timestamps for your claims or be forever known as liars

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>>69180661
Unironically this
It's pretty amazing actually, even if the bullying rrat is COMPLETELY false, Niji is still 100% in the wrong solely because of how they CHOSE to act. All they had to do was not launch their usual character assassination campaign like they always do. But at the end of the day it just comes down to them going on the offense to smear a suicidal person from the start, when Selen has only ever wanted to resolve things privately and never once made public accusations.

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>>69180626
>I'm completely mentally healthy
Let's be real for a second.

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>>69181424
You absolutely can see a therapist, you don't have to disclose company secrets to a shrink, don't know the law but it might even be ok to do that because of confidentiality. Lastly how would Niji find out if she did?

If Niji told her she couldn't then that's messed up. They might e incompetent but surely thats a bit far.

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>>69181424
WTF. You think she is going to the therapist as a cartoon character lol? She absolutely could go to a therapist or psychiatrist if she wanted.

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>>69181424
That isn't how NDAs work, thirdworlder chama. Your medications are none of your employers business

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The best part about the timestamp demands is that some Nijifaggot not in the NDF bubble is going to waste time combing through vods for it and when they use it as proof nobody either side is going to give a shit because it doesn't address anything, it just contributes to the perception that Niji is trying to harass Doki.

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>>69181580
lmao she ain't gonna fuck you bro. They are both stupid af.

Niji PR is insanely fucking inept.
Doki is a dumb menhara

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>>69181424
you aren't just a /vt/ tourist you're a life tourist. have you ever been to a doctor or do they not have those in the jungle?

[Anonymous No.]

mfw every bad faith depiction of dokilen is just “competitive player gets salty about competition”

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>>69181992
>lmao she ain't gonna fuck you bro
things retards losing the argument say

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>>69181512
Yeah all this. As a day one dragoon I'll give a disqualifying anecdote about her: when she got to pred before becoming Selen, someone in her circle accused her of getting carried and being a fake pred, and she developed a real complex about it that she defensively brought up constantly. While continuing to kinda play like shit and vindicate whoever told her that, because like, she definitely does not play like a pred. It's a key facet of her menhera, but it doesn't change shit about this situation. We know she's crazy, sisters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69181927
>Coworker tells you not go around management
>You: STOP HARASSING ME

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>>69180878
wdym Pomu has been utterly professional, she's taken jabs at upper management but she's never explicitly said anything or anyone was toxic and that's the one person there I actually watched.
I don't know what U-san has specifically said and everything I've read about Matara has been mild at worst while she also clearly moved beyond her grievances with Ethyria considering she hung out with Millie last month. If we're guilting people by association then /vt/'s darling Pomu also hung out with Tara and Elira so you can't use that logic.

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>>69179376
I remember that MGR stream. She was ready to break her screen or break down and cry. She's definitely menhera but then again every girl is until proven not

Good times

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>>69181577
What did she imply in that pic?

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>>69182100
STOP HARASSING ME.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69181478
>Sneed
Formerly CHEEBS

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>>69177691
You're just adding fuel to the fire, aren't you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
This is like trying to shit on a soccer player for getting pissed off at the referee. Everyone who compfags does this, nobody gives a shit.

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>>69180573
>we don't need to take anything she's said on faith
she literally claimed she was bullied and the workplace culture was toxic, that's something everyone is taking on faith
if she was actually menhera its entirely possible she is misinterpreting actions as personal slights against her, kind of like how rushia interpreted the behavior of miko and aqua as bullying
managers sucking is corroborated by other graduated/terminated livers

[Anonymous No.]

>>69182349
>Cheebs' Feebs and Sneebs
What did he mean by this? Alternatively, can I still get Cheebs to feeb my sneeb?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
So, I was there for the apex streams mentioned... and what? Have you people never watched a comp tryhard?
For bonni, he was one too. The idea that selen going on tilt and making frustrated comms, would cause bonni to cry is so fucking stupid.
Literally all the comp shit is just tilt. The RPR and Surefour shit was tilt (you might say there wasn't the same pressure, but a "on the best day" barely top 100 ladder player trying to keep up with two pros is definitely enough)
And the first tournament shit is still there in clips. Literally pure bants. Are y'all retarded?

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>>69181512
>IDR which one
>>69182172
>Not even a VoD provided

Yep, certainly Dragoons and not nijisisters in disguise

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>>69182349

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>>69182311
It implies that "they" were trying to silence her with no proof and the entire time it was her vague posting. Her "requested to leave on Jan 26" doesn't mean they denied her. More likely scenario is they asked her to not make any rash decisions and think it over, probably tried to followup with her later and she ghosted them and then suddenly drop legal docs on their head and that's when they decided to terminate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69181580
Pretty much. All Niji had to do was put out a notice that they're ending the contract due to creative differences and conflicts with management.
If Selen sent them a pile of schizo ramblings that were just screenshots of innocuous statements and they wanted to protect themselves from that, then they simply add that they're ending the contract also out of concern for her mental health. Softly imply that she's not mentally well, and therefore you could insulate the company if they expected her to start smearing them publicly

The fact they replied how they did really makes it seem like she has something, but even if she doesn't, it just makes Niji look like the bigger retards.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
(You) have never been competitive at anything in your life before and it shows

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>>69182414
>if she was actually menhera its entirely possible she is misinterpreting actions as personal slights against her, kind of like how rushia interpreted the behavior of miko and aqua as bullying
The only way to deal with menheras is to do nothing and wait for them to self-destruct. No one is siding with Rushia now. Niji really really showed that they dont know wtf they are doing because they care too much about winning the court of public opinion.

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>>69177691
Still waiting on the timestamp, dyke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69182553
It's in her fucking debut, retard. And her first Apex stream. Her being a pred was a big deal.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69182709
>The only way to deal with menheras is to do nothing and wait for them to self-destruct.
Which is what Doki did lol. Takes one to know one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69182584
Would.

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>>69182754
Oh wow, suddenly you remember
Since you do, then why not send it with a timestamp?

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>>69182592
No proof? They cut off her access to her socials. But I'm sure as they did that they said "please talk openly about your suicide attempt on your PL account"

Why do you think Selen ghosted them? Selen has said they ghosted her and her lawyer. What makes you think it's the other way around?

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>>69182709
They thought provoking her with the Elira stream cause her to destruct quickly, but they ended up destroying themselves instead.

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>>69181286
Selen actually distanced herself from the rest of NijiEN from what I remember. NijiEN has a discord server they use that doesn't have any managers in it (this is the one the war yab came from) and Selen left it months or maybe a year before this shitshow.

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>>69177691
Any timestamp?

[Anonymous No.]

>people who have never played Apex with fresh accounts sniping noobs and bots

>selen who probably has a billion more ELO than them fighting actual people

It's not exactly an easy challenge for Selen in the first place

[Anonymous No.]

>>69181045
Based thx anon

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>>69182977
>"No proof?"
>Starts to make shit up with no basis

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>>69182592
>ask her to not make any rash decisions
>get legal complaint and immediately push nuclear option button

No matter how menhera, toxic, overly competitive or sensitive Doki is niji has proven to be worse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
Fuck off Elira, get used to doing 100 man bukkake movies

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>>69182632
Agree with the first part obviously.
There is no way the second would have went well lol. All the Doki simps would get mad for talking about her health without consent. Then Doki would still come out with the "bullied into suicide" and we would end up right back where we are now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69181372
Millie does have the most compelling case for "she was very, very, stupid please understand"

[Anonymous No.]

>>69183131
It's always sad to see a completive person jump into a competition of their own creation not realizing that the odds are very much against them and they are going to lose badly.
I felt like that watching Kronii decide to hunt Fauna in MC even though it's pretty much impossible to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69183311
That's what Millie wants you to think

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>>69183215
No shit. Niji is inept and dying. This drama is still 1000% overblown and shouldn't even be a thing. No one would give a fuck about any of this if Doki didn't try and kill herself. It would just be another situation with a shitty corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
you forgot to mention the boosted bitch situation

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>>69183243
Yeah, if your talent needs to be let go because of mental health issues you don't just blurt it out in a public statement.
You get factual evidence proving that is the case beyond certainty for legal and then you make a bland "we couldn't work it out" statement anyways.
Talking about someone else's medical information in public is retarded.

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>>69179376
>is a sweaty streamer when playing a sweaty game
>"BRO SHE IS A MENHARA, SHE IS A MENHARA!!!"
cmon now, you don't rage like a little 14-year old when you get your shit pushed for sucking donkey dick in a competitive game?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69183215
Anon if I'm your employer and you don't show up for work for a month and then drop a bullshit legal doc you can bet your ass I'm terminating your employment with my company with full prejudice

[Anonymous No.]

>>69183208
>The decision was made to temporarily remove her access to accounts on various social media platform and video distribution services under the name 'Selen Tatsuki'."

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>>69183547
>suspend employee for a month
>surprised when they're not at work for a month

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>>69182553

She's played in several tournaments and all of them she's acted the same. Such as when Apex was in the shitter and BR was out of the question. She was with bonbon and bonbon was having back pain due to kidney stones. The VOD was nuked you fucking retard because her whole channel was wiped. Literally do your reps.

Faggot.

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>>69183625
>>69183625

>despite frquent communications with her emergency contact
They were trying to reach her and she was fucking ghosting them, only then did they lock the account. Get the timeline right

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
I remember this, but not because I saw it.
This event changed this Board completely, before this there were bait threads of dragoons every day.

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>>69183547
I can see why you are not an employer.
She wasn't skipping work, she was suspended.
And if you do decide to terminate her immediately then just do that and claim "professional differences" and "not able to work together" bullshit instead of... whatever it is we got.
They really fucked themselves with their termination of Zaion. They got away with smearing shit all over the walls in that case and just started assuming they can always do that.

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>>69182172
>"When She got to pred before Selen"
>>69183660
>"Aaaah, b-b-but her Selen channel got nuked"

You are inconsistent as fuck and fail to provide a single timestamp

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>>69179824
What was the MGR one called? I only watched her for FPS mainly but if true I want to see that.

>Verification not required.

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>>69181372
I'm not sure that Millie is that mentally sound either. She cares too much about what random schizo thinks of her and her company. In fact, the discord leak, secret gc, "not a black company" rant were all her.

>>69183461
That was before her time in Niji. It is true that when those with mental problems fall into a negativity loop, all of the previous bad experiences comes rushing back. It's why you have to interact with them with even more care that usual. You don't just make up and move along after a small squabble. The incident will stay on the back of her mind for when the next time she gets triggered.
Although if Niji really was actually trying to trigger her, it's incredibly foolish. She's going to therapy and have the entire world supporting her.

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>>69183986
>she was suspended
She wasn't suspended in the beginning, they suspended her when she ghosted them

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>>69183837
>employee is in hospital for sudoku attempt
>"wtf, why can I only reach my employee's emergency contact?"
You're certainly retarded enough to fit right in with Niji's management.

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>>69182172
kek what a boosted bitch

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>>69184111
careful, you may be talking to management and they could drop a "Nijisanji EN message" for you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184062
They typed the message on her Twitter day 26, 1 day later, she was suspended when she ghosted them my ass

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>>69184111
>in the hospital grinding Apex and making stickers
Yeah she couldn't check discord, sure. Also you can commit yourself for overnight hospital stay by just saying you feel suicidal, no proof required because it's about mental health.

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>>69180848
This is to me the most important point of this. Say what you will about Doki I don't give a shit. The Clique coordinated an extremely targeted attack full of blatant deception directly at her when they knew she'd be live knowing her mental state. This shows brazen maliciousness. It's 100% pure kuro. I don't give a shit about shooterfags going menhera, that's normal. I REALLY give a fuck about a brazen case of mobbing being broadcasted for the world to see.

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>the girl that attempted suicide had mental issues
sisters are this desperate for anything huh

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>>69182172
The pred ranking was from a while anyways, no? Selen can just be washed and not playing as much as in the past, doesn't mean that she wasn't pred way back when. That said pretty much all sweaty esports gamer types are menhera on some level. takes one to know one

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>>69184056
Millie is just a loyalist, not necessarily a bad quality to have as long as they are with like minded people that are productive. Streaming is not that.

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>>69184062
So they dont suspend their talent for breaking rules? But they suspend her for being hostialized?

Obviously they suspended her for breaking the rules then she did her attempt and had her parents handle contact with them and then they changed the passwords when they couldnt reach an agreement.

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>>69177691
3:35:04 -ish? i guess?

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>>69184536
>for being hospitalized
If your in the hospital you send a doctor's note to your employer. This is standard. Also if they're going to suspend they have to notify her she's suspended and the reason since if you suspend without reason that's just harassment. If Selen was the one ghosting them then she obviously wasn't suspended from the get go since they weren't able to contact her.

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>>69184378
>Yeah she couldn't check discord, sure.
Well, it was around the holidays. One has to give at least 37 hours before any sort of reply can be expected.

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>>69182632
One of the things to note here is that they could have escaped the final yab if they just left the TINIEST bit of room to defend them. If there was just some plausible deniability about Selen trying to an hero solely because of their corp, if there was just some plausible deniability that they weren't literally fucking harassing her even AFTER the attempt, the Nijidrones would have simply run with the copes til kingdom come and screamed "you can't know, niji dindunuffin, maybe perhaps maybe perhaps hurr fucking durr".
But in their utter retardation they self-incriminated so fucking hard that even the biggest dicksuckers were left in shock and disgust (unless they are sociopaths like Luxiemsisters)

[Anonymous No.]

>menhera this
>menhera that
>but muh bpd
>every example ive seen is just normal ass gamer rage over FPS games that literally every FPS streamer has at some point

[Anonymous No.]

>>69184796
>If your in the hospital you send a doctor's note to your employer. This is standard.
They talked to her emergency contacts. This is literally the circumstance that emergency contacts are for.

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>>69183578
>no reply to this post after being proven wrong
lmao

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>>69181168
You might yet be surprised, anon.

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>>69185129
We are 187 posts deep with 81 IP's and no time stamps. Of course any proof is going to be ignored

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>>69185110
Only if the emergency contacts don't scream obsenities before disconnecting from the call immediately because they're pissed too. I've worked this type of shit before, it's not as clear cut as people think.

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>>69185098
If you had gamer rage, you are womanhera, sorry anon is not negligible

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>>69184796
I have no idea if or when she sent a doctors note and neither do you. I have no idea if or when she was suspended but there definitly was time between her uploading the video and her being admitted to the hospital. Nijisanji claims she was terminated for not complying with their upload policy, why are you arguing that they did it because she ghosted them?

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>>69179376
None of this is menhera. Not even a little bit. At worst she's a gamer with an abrasive personality. This happens to chuubas who make "gamer" part of their personality. I think they self-impose a lot of pressure to win in competitive games for their viewers and when shit goes bad sometimes feelings get hurt. I don't see that as anything negative about her character as a whole.

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>>69185240
Okay, so we're just making shit up now about how that call went?
This isn't even to say that she didn't deserve to be suspended or anything. It's just to say that if an employee is allegedly in the hospital, and then you suspend them to be on the safe side, then of course the employee isn't showing up to work.

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>>69184777
>Skip there
>Selen laughing and thanking the other girls for joining her
>Selen complimenting the others on their performance
>Still laughing normally
This rrat is weak.

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>>69185391
>what's that? you're MAD about something NORMAL??? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
is basically how I read every esl post that calls someone menhera

the only legit menhera example i've seen on this board is rushia

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>>69179376
Yikes. It's like a 5 year old.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69185515
There was no doctor's note sent, she ghosted them so they locked her accounts. Then legal docs drop and she's terminated. Everything lines up with these sequence of events.

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>>69185546
>laughs normally
Anon, Selen laughs to cover up the pain. The more she laughs the more she's actually on edge. Literal Joker shit.

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>>69177785
>>69177822
>>69178301
The interesting thing is because all of Selen's vods are deleted, you can't check her vod to see if something was removed, which is easy since live chat replay is disabled.
Sounds like bullshit by NDF

[Anonymous No.]

>>69178755
>Nijifags scouring through every vod to find any reason to bring Selen down and twist the narrative.
How is that any different from dramaniggers doing the same?

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>>69179376
I forget how often Selen had midnight solo queu apex menhera streams after losing a tournament. Basically suicide watch live for her audience.

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>>69179129
BASED BASED BASED

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>>69185888
>>69185988
I'm not even anti-Doki or pro-Niji, I'm just playing devil's advocate to sus out any suspicious bullshit regarding Selen's side. Didn't even have to dig much, it was right there in plain sight for anyone willing to just remove their rrat bias.

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>>69185691
>There was no doctor's note sent
Probably because they spoke to her emergency contacts. Do you think they wouldn't lock her accounts if she had sent them a doctor's note?
>Then legal docs drop
According to Doki's account, her lawyer had already been in talks with Niji's lawyers at least a week prior to the final document and termination. That means that at a minimum, they had gotten other legal documents in late January, if not even sooner.

You're acting like she didn't speak to them at all in the entirety of January, and then everything happened on the 5th. That doesn't even line up with Niji's statement of having communicated with Selen's legal counsel.

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>>69185776
>A competitive person is in pain after losing competition
No shit, the point is if she acts professionally about it or not.
And even her being salty sometimes means nothing. It's not easy to regulate emotions for hours a time.
It's rare as fuck to find a competitive streamer who doesn't sometimes yell and curse and fling blame around.

[Anonymous No.]

keep fighting the good fight sisters

[Anonymous No.]

>>69186338
Baused hashtag

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>>69185691
She asked to quit on jan 26, dont know at what point her lawyer got involved but it was probably before this or at this time. She claims Nijisanjis legal team around that time stopped replying and they sent the document after a week of silence on feb 5 and they terminated her contract 2 hours later.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69181478
I am not reading all that shit.

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>>69185129
NDF has been ignoring posts that prove them wrong for a while now.

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>>69186118
In a situation like this, facts don’t really matter. Let’s assume that everything Nijisanji said is True and that Doki really is an immature and vindictive person, and really was planning to publicly slander Niji and Elira’s friend circle. Why would it be a good idea to publicly dispel her accusations when she had only made them in private? This makes it *look* like her allegations are True and that they are trying to cover it up. It makes Doki *look* like a victim to the English-speaking Vtuber audience. Perception is everything in the world of entertainment, and in this regard Nijisanji has failed utterly.

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>>69186217
Selen is angelic compared to 99% of Apex and competitive FPS streamers, anyone who can't understand this is being willfully ignorant
everyone with actual friends says more heinous heated shit with the boys

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>>69177691
You mean the shit anons chimped out about for fucking weeks? I remember it. It was an overreaction on anons' part to Selen being salty. She's an oversensitive gamer grrl, known.
>this is why she doesn't like Elira though
Selen's behavior towards Elira has been avoidance since her termination. If Elira still holds a grudge over shit that took place 2 fucking years ago. That's on her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
Oh boy it's THIS thread again

[Anonymous No.]

>>69186483
The very post has a tl;dr resume for your peabrain

[Anonymous No.]

>sweaty gamer girl is sweaty

She got tilted a handful of times over the course of like 2 years and suddenly she’s mentally unstable.

She chokes under pressure. She blames her performance on others. She gets pissed and others when she does poorly. That’s not mental instability. It’s toxic but totally normal. She seems to bounce back from it fine and none of the people she was toxic with seem to have cared much about it. Who, I ask, knows a competitive gaming streamer that hasn’t dove these things?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187345
Tyler1 obviously

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187427
big tonka T...

[Anonymous No.]

>/vt/ likes selen now
wow remember when we used to make fun of dragoons?

[Anonymous No.]

So, where is the public slander from the clique for Aster then? He was an even worse tryhard. Vox? Constantly crying about shit if he lost games. Ike? Had literal crying fits at Luca' shenanigans. Enna? Shat on Doppio for doing his kayfabe several times. Aia and her version of anger issues?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187645
we're part of a bigger war now anon, it's funnier for Nijisanji to burn. Selen is based because she's such big enemy to EN it's caused them to self implode from seething

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>>69185881
I'm a dragoon. It's all true. Selen was always a choke queen. A lot of times she played in Apex tournaments she would play like dogshit and start whining/ blaming herself or finding excuses depending of the case. It was a known fact that she was a sour loser because she had an image of "apex girl" to defend in her head.
It happens multiple times during her time as Selen. Whether it was in her first tournament with Bobon, that kill challenge or the tournament she played with TBS

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>>69179376
you forgot to include the one where ipn invited her to fill in a tournament on his team + ipn's friend who was playing valk with zero experience and their team ended up in one of the bottom placings with like zero kills which broke her by the end of the stream
made worse was ipn saying on stream after selen left the group chat, that he couldn't believe how bad she played

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
Yet none of her breakdowns can compare to the amount of seething Elira and clique have displayed. They have something to hide, because if all they did was throw shade that was being taken the wrong way by Selen, zero chance they'd be so defensive about it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188023
It was always a mistake to market herself as the FPS god.
She's not bad but if you get hyped like Selen was, you're never going to live up to that without testicles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69187707
This is why every narrative claiming the clique hates Selen for good reason is retarded, they've all done much more insane shit and had petty spats before, but it gets covered up for those in good graces.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
The more you resist the harder and longer we're going to stomp.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188237
Selen could have been an absolute cunt who bullied everyone behind the scenes every single day and it still wouldn't excuse how NijiEN is completely fumbling every action they take.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69180994
I recognise that art style.

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>>69187645
I don't particularly like her, I just don't think her employer should repeatedly fuck with their projects for no reason, lie about why they did it, then dox her after they fire her making schizo rebuttals to claims she never made.

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>>69177691
It is kinda funny how fast public perception changes here. Pre-statement, most were convinced that Elira probably wasn't directly involved in any bullying, but let it happen. Now she's the shadow-manager that pulls all the strings and may even be embezzling company money.

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>>69179376
>says she won't play any more Metal Gear games cursing "backseaters"
Honestly fair. Metal Gear has some of the worst backseaters out there, behind Nintendo (any series) and Soulsborne. They also really like to put references to dialogue or events that hasn't happened yet in chat, making the streamer go "Huh, what are you talking about?" approximately 3 seconds before it happens.

[Anonymous No.]

GET SUED GET SUED PLAP PLAP PLAP

[Anonymous No.]

>>69188023
Yes but the gripe is this part:
>Basically the seethe is purely from Selen's side to getting shit on and taunted by Elira in APEX and she held a grudge ever since.
I don't buy that part and from the looks of it, it was not a 1 on 1 grudge either but an entire clique vs her. If they were not high school mean girls, they would have been much more professional about it...

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>>69189089
Idk who you're speaking for anon, but the moment I saw how related Enna and Millie was, I was just holding my breath Elira wouldn't be ousted as a bitch.
but here we are

[Anonymous No.]

I'm looking for clarification on this.

What the hell is Aster in "laying low/too new" after the Discord leaks? Why is Finana in merely just "in kahoots"? I know opinion on Rosemi has rapidly changed after the whole "save me pink girl" thing, but is it really confirmed she's part of the clique and not just going along with it so she doesn't end up on their bad side?

And why the fuck is Kotoka Torahime not here? That's another unknown quantity to me because she didn't just throw Zaion under the bus, she put rocket boosters on Zaion and had a fleet of buses drive over her and then back up and drive over her again. But... she didn't tweet out the bullshit "Message from Nijisanji" video, either. So... Consensus?

And, Petra. She seems innocuous (then again, so did Rosemi). But she's part of Zuttoღo, which is Millie/Enna/Reimu's little gang which is clique central.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
So she tried to rage quit life after things didn't go her way? Makes sense.

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>>69189658
>Sir, this is a wendy's.
Look for judge Anon's thread with a much better tier list. Finana is missing on court list because someone assassinated her or she did sudoku but it wasn't the Zaionists... according to the Zaionists... If you trust them or not is up to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69189658
This tierlsit was made by a single anon, a couple of changes were made but it hasn't been extensively reviewed yet due to the GURRAT general getting pruned
Aster leak doesn't really have anything to do with the clique, at least not that we can extrapolate, it's him being a menhera in a 1 on 1 convo with Scarle.
Aster's associations with the clique needs to be assessed by someone more knowledgeable than I, but here he is collabing with Gumi only two months ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2hjnfrbBhQ
so he can't be so embedded that Doki's best friend and biggest public defender would associate with him, right? She would've known if he was a bully at least

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
>it tanks their overall placement and they finish the tournament in a humiliating 17th place out of 20 teams

kek, the startend experience.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
Honestly it's pretty fucking kino that the two that were suppose to be sisters fucking hate each other.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
the only thing i learned is selen goes into fucking depression everytime she doesnt get what she wants or when banter gets too hard.
nijien still sucks tough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69185881
You can go to the archives. Even during the stream people were wondering why Selen was taking it so seriously.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
>the MGR one
how the fuck do you go menhera in shit fucking game?
just play on easy

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
god it has been years since this
this is one of the reasons faggons were getting annoying.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
Legitimate mental breakdowns or just her malding over a game on stream?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190775
the apex loses made her go in mini breaks if i recall.
the mgsr one is one of the first time she seem to want to cry on a non tournament stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179376
Getting mad at video games is a pretty common thing though

[Anonymous No.]

can someone post her apex lose streak?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190992
>is pretty common
is not healthy though and people only get mad in the that specific time, getting all depressed is far different.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190974
>>69191062
>>69191072
Is this really the best the discord has come up with today? Sisters aren't sending their best.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190092
Weren't they supposed to be the good and evil sister?

[Anonymous No.]

>>69191202
I need a laugh

[Anonymous No.]

>>69190326
Pomu’s chat was absolute dogshit for several of her MGS streams to the point where it was clearly getting to her, so while Selen may have overreacted there’s precedent for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69180775
the best times were /hlg/ and /hlgg/ on /jp/, everything that came after was dogshit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69179244

[Anonymous No.]

>>69177691
Oh, I understand that there very likely is a both sides issue here, strictly in terms of personality clashes, and their virtues vs. their flaws, but it's still a problem with company power abuses on their side.

[Anonymous No.]

holy shit sisters, you're so pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>69178377
kek stop i'm dying

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ANONS PLEASE the vox cummers wrote this with their best efforts thinking they struck a goldmine even though this is already known for a long time. At least pretend to be shocked or upset just so that they can have a win here, it's getting pitiful for the nijisisters anyway, at least let them have this

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>>69181045
This is the only correct take on the breakdowns. Only #4 actually legitimate soured my image of her for a bit, but got over it shortly. The rest can be chalked up to her toxic gamer character or, in the case of Apex, her being extremely competitive and being frustrated by not winning and/or being pressured/stressed by having to IGL, a position she loathes at this point.

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>>69192778
no way man, cummies cant win shit, just point and laugh mh2k

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258 replys. No timestamps. The defenders can't even stand watching Elira lol

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>>69192966
Dude nobody can fucking stand watching Elira.
Unless we are talking about either her body dropping dead, or her (atual 2D character that looks nothing like the ugly little shit she is irl) boobs giving a paizuri.

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>>69180661
>seem to understand is that it doesn't matter if doki was an oversensitive menhera
You sound like a fujo explaining that it doesn't matter that Vox diddled kids. Maybe to you it doesn't but not everyone is fucked in the head like you.

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>>69190258
Archives keep chat as well?
Doubt.jpg

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Elira being a scumbag makes me want to fuck her model even more.

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>>69184056
Mentally sound people don't become anime girls for a living.

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>>69179376
This changes everything, it's all her fault huh wow.

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>>69189606
I'm just disappointed in the situation because Elira is so nice on stream. Nothing she has done has ever given off the impression of being a bitch. Compared to Enna who is just openly a bitch on stream so if you find out she's a bitch behind the scenes it's like "Yeah, that's not exactly surprising." But for Elira it's like, damn, how did she hide it so well? She seemed so kind.

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>>69179376
I don't follow EN vtubers, but I was there when #6 happened. It was funny as shit seeing the EN team bomb that hard so I obviously had to figure out why. Turns out it was even funnier.

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>>69196971
It's always the "nice girls"

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>>69196971
Manipulators tend to be good at manipulating, anon.

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>>69196971
Man are you 12?

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>>69197158
It's usually not the nice girls

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>>69191490
Turns out they are, just not the way you’d initially expect.

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>>69184111
>Tries to kill herself and is in hospital
>WHY CAN I ONLY CONTACT YOUR EMERGENCY CONTACT? FUCKING ANSWER YOUR PHONE IN HOSPITAL BITCH YOU'RE FIRED

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>>69179806
>Used to be plastered all over the board
>Newfags
>Archive dates it at 2023
So you knew and still chose to believe her? What a dumb fuck.

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>>69197465
Sometimes it's the nice girls, sometimes it's not the nice girls

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>>69177691
Elira's content is boring and low effort, she also has a small following even among females in NijiEN. Yet, not only she is part of most major events but her model just kept getting more sexually appealing (boobs keep getting bigger and neck reaching a normal length). This in opposition to oformer NijiEN livers who were far more engaging, hard working and popular such as Selen and Pomu.

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>>69181324
Either way, 4 is the only one that was a serious thing. The rest are various exaggerations and generic compfag behavior

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>>69179376
>this many replies
Hello tourists.

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>>69184796
>If your in the hospital you send a doctor's note to your employer. This is standard.
Why bother implying that you know whether she did or did not? Even Niji didn't claim she didn't send a "doctor's note." By the way, in the real world with real jobs, there are not 'doctor's notes' unless you submit for FMLA and they aren't sent to regular old managers. You'd know that if you had a big boy job.

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>>69182592
She is a contractor
Her contract for sure prevented her from using her PL untill it ran out, it's why she lawyered up, she wanted out

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>>69180878
Let them gasulight themselves as much as they want. It's how Elira wants it.

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>>69177691
>>69177822
>>69178301
>>69178952
>>69179583
>>69180186
>>69181444
>>69192966
So I decided to go looking for a timestamp and well guess what, whatever content was removed from Selen's VOD happens AFTER the discord call was hung up.
I did my own archive of Selen's channel properly using TheFrenchGhosty's archive scripts, which include all the comments. There are comments on Selen's video with timestamps a little past 4 hours but the VOD is only 3h45m in length, certainly something was removed and there are even comments talking about this fact. HOWEVER Elira's VOD linked in OP is 3h48m in length, and after some brief checking the two VODs are only 17 seconds apart from each other. Going ahead to the end of the VOD it's still a 17 second gap when they hang up the discord call in 3h37m54s in Elira's VOD and 3h38m11s in Selen's VOD.
And just after this at 3h38m13s in Selen's VOD is when a jump cut happened. The section that was removed was AFTER THE DISCORD CALL WAS HUNG UP meaning whatever was removed was NEVER in Elira's VOD.

tl;dr OP is a lying fag.

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>>69198904
I was hospitalized for my appendix and then again a few years later for a different employer when I got t-boned. Neither time did a send a doctor's note. I actually had an emergency contact handle it, though, like what happened here.

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>>69180775
the board has been completely co-opted by tourists from twitter/fb/lebbit who only care about any of this insofar as eceleb drama and desperately want to fit in with what they imagine the average /vt/poster is like from bannedvtmemes twitter screencaps so they all just try to emulate schizos
near everyone who used this board the way a human being might has fucked off by now or become so disillusioned they either give up or give in

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>>69193250
ragtag.moe keeps (mostly) the chat

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>>69198124
The only time Elira ever gets attention is by being around when other people cause "drama"
The most I remember Elira getting viewed early on was when Finana had a meltdown on stream being a brat.