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nijirrat here choose to believe me or not but i cant stay quiet anymore
selen is a professional menhera victim and the only bullying going on is from herself and her unstable brain. impossible to work with because anything other than blind approval and admiration is harassment and bullying. there’s no receipts of bullying to b shown because it was all going on in her head.
ofc niji management had to be compete dipshits about how they handled the termination and now all the other en talents are thrown under the bus for nonexistent cliques and harassment. selen is obsessed with documents being kept secret and ‘moving on’ because the schizo claims in there about bullying aren’t based in reality and she didn’t think her claims would be seen by the livers she’s lying about.
stop fucking blindly believing everything a certified schizo says because it’s fun drama to see nijien burn. pomu saw the writing on the wall and got out but everyone else was not as lucky. thanks to the incompetence of niji mgmt the other livers reputations are being thrown in the mud and now they will probably have to sue selen in retaliation for trashing their reputations by creating a victim complex narrative about harassment.
selen successfully painted herself as victim and won the favor of the internet but she’s in deep shit for her menhera professional victim lies. screenshot this and come back in however many weeks or months when the public learns the truth of what happened.

>> No.69068596
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>>69068485

>> No.69068617

didnt read lol

>> No.69068721

> now they will probably have to sue selen in retaliation for trashing their reputations by creating a victim complex narrative about harassment.
I believe everything except this because it would probably just make their reputation crisis worse. They’re trapped.

>> No.69068735

I aint reading all that

>> No.69068797
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>>69068485
I legit don't know nor care if any of what she claims is real
Niji is trash and has been a blight on Vtubing for too long
You niggers can take your dogshit wave ridding gifting streamers and your awful audiences to hell

>> No.69068859

>>69068485
Learn to capitalize, dipshit.

>> No.69068884

I dont care. Nijisanji EN and Selen posters should be permanently banned from this board. So fucking trash.

>> No.69068951

>>69068485
Imagine losing a pr battle to a menhera who said nothing but that she wanted to move on. Even if she's a terrible person, she still won. Accept it and move on. You lost

>> No.69068957

>>69068485
congrats OP, you're a faggot

>> No.69068966

ngl this is the development I'm hoping for because it'd be the funniest outcome.

>> No.69068979

The manager's job is to tardwrangle the menhera vtubers.
They failed at their job and lost their most popular female vtuber.
Instead of apologizing to the fans and moving on, they went full retarded and tried arguing with crazy.

>> No.69068987

>>69068485
Aside from all of the 3rd parties who said that they've worked with Selen in the past and had only positive things to say.
Clearly they're all in on the conspiracy to slander a company that slandered themselves.

>> No.69069022

>>69068596
beautiful

>> No.69069062

>>69068485
+$0.02 has been added to your social credit score.

>> No.69069096

>>69068485
Now it all comes out that she was at fault, stupid, and hired dumb lawyers. Now she's made an enemy of a corporation with $2billion to drag her through the mud. Understandably she doesn't have much of a case and if you assume nobody was lying then she will lose. The problem is that they can then get her on damages, and the evidence for that is all the drama bitches and fans making it worse. All the money she made now is going to go to pay for the yacht and she's going to be deleted.

>> No.69069161

>>69068485
Learn to use paragraphs and capitalization pagpag.

>> No.69069200

>>69069096
>make a basic HR complaint just in case so it's on file for both parties
>work goes nuclear and shows it to every last coworker
yeah sis...

>> No.69069229

>>69068485
t. corporate bootlicking shill, go back to sucking vox’s dick or something faggot

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>>69068485
>SELEN IS LYING, I SWEAR!
>I-IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT NIJISANJI ITSELF CONFIRMED THE ALLEGATIONS! THEY ARE WRONG ABOUT IT!
>H-HOW DO I KNOW THIS?! WHO CARES! YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RETARDED FOR BELIVEVEING OTHERWISE!
The absolute state of NijiCopers.

>> No.69069263

>>69068485
millie go do what selen couldnt and kys

>> No.69069268
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>>69068485
Didn't read, but I read this long rrat and is beautiful though. Ex-fameliras approved

>> No.69069282

Guess this is the discord for nijisisters plan of attack for today? Spout some more about incorrectly nitpicking the phrase "an attempt" because it will surely work eventually when the rest of SEA return from the sweatshop

>> No.69069284

Nijisanji doesn't have a real choice except to respond to everything. Whether or not they're in the right or wrong, the people calling them retarded for doing anything at all are total newfags who forget that we have a fucking precedent for this situation. Even if they're the lowest, vilest of black companies and that Selen is completely in the right, ignoring the situation is suicide.

The .live drama is still fresh in the minds of the Japanese. It's still the most significant yab that has ever happened in vtubing history. Everyone who thinks this Nijisanji yab has anything over .live is way too new and doesn't know how the entire history of vtubing was warped by that one event.

>> No.69069295

NDF is scared shitless if they are being paid to damage control here

>> No.69069324

The Manhera literally didnt have to do anything though?
Like, she got her 500k subs after she reappeared and she was clearly moving on. Even if it was an elaborate plan she clearly got her goal and was ready to cash out and become the new Sayu.
Instead the management shot itself in the foot 2 times by making the NijiEN and later a softer CEO statement, worsening the situation.

The company literally could have just Zion'ed her and let the drama simmer down. They didn't and are now paying the price.

Before this whole drama Selen and Elira were the two people I disliked the most out there (i didnt watch anyone aside from mika, nina and mysta anyway).
Now I think Elira and NijiEN are fucking retarded while Doki is the smart one.

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They've realized the walls are closing in. They're becoming more personal and spiteful.

>> No.69069367

>>69069284
There were anons calling the gigarrat the biggest event on 4chan, forget about vtubing they're all newfags

>> No.69069404

>>69068485
fuck off millie i hope you develop a yeast infection and die

>> No.69069423

stfu elira go suck vox's cock or lick enna's shit filled asshole idfc

>> No.69069426

>>69068485
The problem is that nobody commenting knows the truth and everyone is biased on who is making good statements. Dramabird admitted to fault in her last statement which can be used against her in court. Not the "if you look at it this way" admission of guilt that people are trying to conjure up for Nijisanji, but an outright admission of guilt in misrepresenting the facts. That is going to bit her in the ass because it directly links her actions with the monetary and reputational damage suffered by Nijisanji. In the end it was the fans that destroyed her.

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>>69068485
Paid and funded by the NDF

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Even if Selen was lying and was full menhera schizo tier, Anycolor's basically gone so fully totally retarded and handled shit so poorly that it really doesn't matter at this point.

>> No.69069585

>>69069426
A clarification about a statement is not the same as a misrepresentation, especially not a willful one.
Nijisanji has already published multiple conflicting statements and hasn't bothered to even try to clarify them or retract them.

>> No.69069592

>>69069426
Keep licking that boot elira. Say hi to Enna and Millie. Whore.

>> No.69069625

>>69068485
OP, Selen could be the most insane woman on the planet and it would never excuse how badly Nijisanji handled this. You realize that, right? Literal ACRES of crazy wouldn't excuse the clownshow that Anycolor has put on for the last two weeks. Riro Ron was doing drugs on stream and fucking her fans IRL and fucking IDOL CORP managed to fire her more professionally than Nijisanji did.

NijiEN is fucking done and it's only a matter of time, and they have nobody but themselves to blame.

>> No.69069658

>>69069257
Not OP but nobody knows who is lying. If Nijisanji is telling the truth and hasn't fabricated anything then Selen is fucked.
The hope is that she hasn't lied or omitted anything, and they have. Public opinion doesn't count for shit if the case goes to court. Simple as.

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>>69068485

>> No.69069772

>>69069658
The issue is that public opinion counts for a lot in the bottom line. If it turns out that Selen is lying, the company is still going to be burnt by the internet hate machine and no one is going to take responsibility for jumping the gun and going full tribal.

Nijisanji's handling is bad and I do believe that the company is black regardless of how this turns out, but they had to do something. The idea that the best move was nothing is complete ignorance about the reality and history of the vtubing scene.

>> No.69069822

>>69068485
Lolling at your disingenuous assertions

>> No.69069845

>>69069268
What is the girly-why png? Can anybody post it?

>> No.69069870

>>69068485
i was sceptic that she got out of the hospital very quick. then i hear of a second suicide attempt and shes still up and about. i dont buy it.
they will keep you a while to make sure that you´re not an hero right after you´re out because if they do police is going to come by and ask questions.
questions that can get your license revoked if you fucked up. they will keep you a couple of month minium where i live.
i dont trust anyone on their word and i think there is a possibilty that the entire shitshow was to get back and niji.
granted they make it very easy by beeing fucking retarded. i have no doubt that a lot of blackshit was going on behind the scene.
also every vtuber that redebut had a huge dip in their numbers. even the mighty COCOCK was a bit flaccid after redebut.
with all this drama she bypassed that debuff. but ill withhold my judgment until i have seen anything definite.
in another note ive seen anon claim that she had merch ready for her redebut. did not see any proof. if true that makes it even more suspicious.

>> No.69069890

>>69069585
She misrepresented the statement. Then she admitted she did it. All the interpretations of Nijisanji's statements are heavily biased and you should not assume that a retard interpretation is a legal one.
>>69069592
I'm just an objective bystander. You're coping with the fact that your hate for Nijisanji doesn't materialize into legal evidence against them. It's more likely your (collective) hate will materialize into legal consequences for her instead.

>> No.69069923

>>69069658
>nobody knows who is lying
The black company that was caught lying many many,MANY times about stealth suspensions and shit and even lied about another termination (Zaion) is DEFINITELY the good boys and aren't lying this time

>> No.69069965

>>69069870
MV shit happened almost 2 months ago, NDFfaggot. plenty of time to try and off herself twice.

>> No.69069991

>>69069772
> If it turns out that Selen is lying
if that’s true what would be the lie?

>> No.69070033

>>69069772
The court of public opinion absolutely counts for their bottom line and the perception of the company. The problem is that it doesn't count for anything good legally. If it counts for anything, and she loses, then it's going to count for damage she inflicted on them. How does anyone think this is a biased take?
I hope for her sake that she did not lie and can prove everything legally.

>> No.69070061

>>69068485
I dunno if it's real or not and Selen is and always has been a major crybully but it's pretty funny so I choose to support it anyway

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>>69068485
im biased and i'm not gonna read all of that

seethe

>> No.69070103

>>69069923
They're not going to have you or other fans decide that in court. Do you realize that?

>> No.69070119

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69070195

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69070199

>>69069658
>>69069772
On what point could she possibly be lying on? Everything she said and what Niji said in their statements align. Anycolor Saw her medical record and skincrawl tweeted her being in the hospital. So at least the first suicide attempt is confirmed. She admitted to recording and the bullying has strong evidences behind it. So I can't even see on what she would be lying

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>we're firmly entrenched in the SHE'S FAKING IT!!!! stage
Been there, done that.

>> No.69070260

>>69068596
Fpbp, OP is a faggot

>> No.69070275
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>>69068485
Selen is a woman, all drama therefor is meaningless.
Niji is a black company, all drama therefor is meaningless.

I AM LITERALLY JUST HERE TO WATCH SOMETHING BURN. This is not a crusade motivated by a higher belief, this is pure unadulterated hedonism.

>> No.69070288

>>69068485
Not reading all of that, but I can completely ignore anything Selen ever said and just look at what Anycolor stated themselves and it's STILL absolute disaster and clusterfuck. You go on sis, defend multibillion company.

>> No.69070298

I just simply want Elira to be executed by NijiJP live. I want to see that very tasty termination letter that will shake her and her trash friends to the core. Only masturbated to Selen, don't really care about the talent herself. However with how garbage Elira and NijiEn have been I believe it will be absolutely orgasmic to see such hubris laid low.

>> No.69070313

>>69068485
I've decided not to take anything Selen says to heart and instead only believe Niji.
Niji has thus far made multiple vindictive statements, been the ones to bring the bullying accusations to light, purposely streamed over her first gaming stream, and had Vox admit on stream that multiple talents went after her for not following management protocol because they were "worried it would affect Niji's reputation" which, if any one of you have ever worked a real job, knows is not something a large group of normal coworkers would ever do.
Furthermore, when the Scarle and Aster leaks came to light, Nijisanji's immediate action was not to investigate and ensure that Scarle was in a safe working environment and mediate, but to force her and Aster to stream together for the sake of their reputation. And again, anyone who's ever worked for a real company with an HR department would know that is absolutely horrific practices.
So based SOLELY on actions taken by Nijisanji, I do believe they were harassing her and creating a toxic work environment, and are continuing to do so. Whatever Selen has said doesn't even matter.

>> No.69070343

>>69070103
I think you are the one that doesn't get it. Else you wouldn't be attacking Selen at every opportunity

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>>69068485

>> No.69070363

>>69070210
It was expected. She posted a long ass statement that not even half of the people itt will read. She wasn't trying to get people on her side but extinguishing flames and trying to move on from the shitshow with it. So schizos /here/ are taking that as lying or backing down

>> No.69070405

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69070428

what the fuck is up with NDF writing 10 pages of seethe and cope per post. hey sisters keep it short and snappy or no one is gonna bother reading it dumbass

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>>69069268
more confirmation sadly...

>> No.69070433

>>69068485
Fuck off Enna, you absolute cunt.

>> No.69070506

>>69070434
oops >>69069845

>> No.69070507

>>69068485
damn it sure was nice for all of the people making all of the other livers who quit because of a bad environment to specifically leave only Selen alone

>> No.69070512
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>>69069965
if you get into the hospital for suicide they will ask you if you think about it, if you have a plan and if you made any steps toward that plan. pic related. the further down the chart you are the longer you will stay.
just saying you want to die will get you 1-3 weeks. If you come back after another you wont be out after two month. at the high level you wont be out in two month after you´re first attempt.
but thats EU, i dont know about canada. maybe they threw her out after declining a MAID offer.

>> No.69070554

>>69070199
They already said she was misrepresenting facts. It's their word against hers. If you believe that Nijisanji is lying then you're more inclined to think everything they do is wrong and everything she does is right.
You have to try and be objective.
1. Nobody knows all the details or has all the documents.
2. There are conflicting statements.
3. It could turn into a legal dispute.
Given who is actually in the right it could turn into an outcome that will shock many fans and make them seethe. But it's a completely plausible outcome that should be expected if you think surely Nijisanji wouldn't lie about legal matters like that.

>> No.69070617

>>69068485
Maybe. But it wasn't even Selen who brought the bullying/harassment accusations into the public view, it was Anycolor. They blew this whole thing up on themselves.

>> No.69070635

>>69069870
>>69070512
A family member of mine recently had a manic suicidal episode in Canada (she has a history of depressive episodes triggered by abuse), was brought to her senses by the immediate fear of death, and after dialing 911 she was interned and kept there for several days.
However, her parents managed to release her early with the help of a letter from a psychiatrist who would oversee her case, even now with medication, and support, months after the event she has powerful mood swings brought on by reminiscing about the event and other trauma.

If Doki indeed comes from a good family with resources I think it'd be easy for her to be released early under the supervision of a private psychiatrist and therapist, and a secondary suicide attempt while she's still being attacked by her previous abuses, even while in care, is not unrealistic.

Yeah, Doki might be a suicidal menhera, but that doesn't mean she's wrong or that she wasn't a victim.

Again, Nijisanji confirmed the allegations were true, but simply threw the rest of the idols under the bus to make them responsible and try to not save their image.

>> No.69070648

>>69070343
That has nothing to do with the facts. So, you're the one that doesn't get it. Your emotions don't matter and don't affect the outcome of this dispute.

>> No.69070673

>>69068596
Holy shit she's looking good

>> No.69070730

>>69069200
Is the new narrative that she sent an HR complaint because any potential lawsuit she could have is invalid? Are people really saying Selen needed a team of lawyers to write an HR complaint?

>> No.69070739

>>69070648
>Facts
Glad we agree that Nijisanji is a black company then

>> No.69070767

>>69068485
You're done, Elira.

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>>69068596
My Oshi being based as always.

>> No.69070788

>>69068485
This: >>69070617
Niji were the ones that put that into the public eye. Checkmate, OP, you fucking faggot.

>> No.69070806

>>69069991
I'm assuming everything she's said that's not contradicting of other claims are true. If we take Elira's stream contents in good faith and we ASSUME the talents were telling the truth and not lying themselves then it would mean that she was given the opportunity for a formal graduation after bringing it up repeatedly but chose not to take it, and then lied about that and the termination circumstances. And it would mean that the bullying was exaggerated.

Both of these things line up pretty well with our understanding of the parties before all the drama went down too. Nijisanji would still be guilty everywhere else but it would repaint the situation as Selen having a bad mental health episode and painting everyone else as a villain.

Bare in mind that the official statement was always "accusations of bullying" and the named parties in her letter stand as accused, not actual condemned. There's a huge halfway point between "Nijisanji did everything wrong" and "Selen is a monster" that people keep ignoring where the company is garbage but Selen is out for herself.

>> No.69070871

>>69068485
Didn't read, doesn't matter.
Selen could be a complete schizo and it wouldn't make Niji look any better in the end.

>> No.69070874

>>69068485
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathetic narcissist. The only reason you share an existence on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioral mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike

>> No.69070888

>>69068485
>Nijisanji disclosed the fact Selen was harassed and they did nothing
>Nijisanji said (through skinwalking) that Selen was hospitalized after they ruined her MV
>Nijisanji said that Selen's termination would have negligible impact on their finances
They brought it all on themselves through terrible PR and petty management. All doki said was that she tried to kill herself and then wanted to part ways in an amicable way weeks before the termination but they refused.

>> No.69070897

>>69070730
>don't know what to do, don't know my rights, confused
>hire a lawyer
>follow lawyer instructions

>> No.69070908

>>69070739
That's not a fact. It's just your opinion. You live too much on 4chan and twitter to understand that reality doesn't sway based on how much you shitpost.

>> No.69070966

>>69069096
Your tears are delicious.

>> No.69071002

>>69068485
I choose to believe you because I am a contrarian

>> No.69071021

>>69068596
Fpbp

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>>69070908
Thank you Enna for your service to the company

>> No.69071057

>>69070554
>there are conflicting statements
nigga there are no conflicting statements, niji shot themselves in the foot by basically confirming shit and just not clarifying it to the public, and then doki did that clarification

>> No.69071063

>>69070434
I missed the notElira on iketog post, that actually brings a lot of things together, it sounds like Selen got pissed about meme-ass new rules and selective enforcement of rules and then a lot of shit got said in discord

>> No.69071116

>>69068485
Shut the fuck up Elira, we don't care about your visa.

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>>69068485
You know what op, I believe you're from niji.
Seethe harder

>> No.69071143

>>69071057
by clarification I mean "yes the document is real and what they said was in the document was real, but they did not give the whole picture of said document!

>> No.69071196

>>69070806
If Selen was out for herself then she wouldn't have lost 200k dollarydoos in 2023 due to being too generous with giving her money to other people.

>> No.69071209

>>69070908
>she doesnt believe meme magic is real

>> No.69071229

>>69069263
no
wait
I want to make babies with her.

>> No.69071318

>>69071229
why do you want to own child support to a canadian/philipinx

>> No.69071336

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3k3C5m0di0
>I've never seen a rainbow so black and white

>> No.69071340

>>69068485
When will you retards learn that anyone with real info doesn't talk or type like this?

>> No.69071385

>>69069570
When they decided to crash her first stream is what was the last straw for me. Petty ass shit.
Noooooo couldn't give a proper heads up, nahhhh had to be a quick 30-minute waiting room.
Fucking bitches. NegroSanji petty ass bitches

>> No.69071412

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69071415

>>69071340
Everyone knows it's either an asshurt NDFsister or a cliquefag doing damage control, we're just laughing at the desperation.

>> No.69071469

>>69071318
We might be related. It will be hot incest.

>> No.69071503

>>69068485
Why you posting here instead of preparing for court session?

>> No.69071526

>>69071469
based, then I approve

>> No.69071528

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69071573

>>69068596
Fpbp

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>>69068485
Tricked? I got exactly what I wanted. What are you on about?

>> No.69071638

>>69068485
All Out War is not the route you take if you are in the legal right over a terminated employee.

>> No.69071702

it was almost believable even as a rrat until you got real wishy washy and started using more qualifiers and passive voice. so much conviction for someone who keeps says "probably"

>> No.69071767

>>69071626
>Claude Clawmark
>99,700
>-300
RIP my man. I didn't even know you existed until today, and now I have nothing but pity for you.

>> No.69071773

>>69068485
>selen is a professional menhera victim
She hides it well if she is

>> No.69071778

>>69070635
could be no doubt. but i need proof. ive seen too many cases where someone cries wolf, some dude ends up dead, and then it turns out to be a lie.
its sad but i dont trust anyone on their word alone. be that niji or doki.

>> No.69071783

>>69070730
She has literally never once even insinuated there was a lawsuit. That's something drama retards have made up in their own heads, despite every single statement from her being about moving on.

>> No.69071795

>stop fucking blindly believing everything a certified schizo says
OP discrediting their own post, just like nijisanji. The fans truly do reflect the corpo

>> No.69071864

Anycolor is the most menhera VTuber in the world

>> No.69071931

>>69068485
dramabird overreached with the last one

>> No.69072061
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>she’s in deep shit for her menhera professional victim lies

>> No.69072063

>>69069096
Pathetic serf fujo

>> No.69072126

>>69071866
>NDF
ESLbro, this post is literally asking for the Nijibullies to get outed and that harassing them should be allowed because they committed a horrible crime. Did you assume this was a Selen anti-post SOLELY because it had le funny reaction image as the OP? Are you ACTUALLY so retarded that you forgot the read the post you were trying to respond to?

>> No.69072164

>>69068485
If one schizo could dismantle a company so thoroughly
They didn't really deserve to exist

Miguel Gato's, certified menhera's, separation from Hololive did involve drama, but eventually it died down
HoloCN's graduation was filled with drama and shitflinging but afterwards, no one fucking cared

Even if we conjure up a possibility of her being Michelangelo Catus II
IT SHOULDN'T HAVE CAUSED THE ENTIRE FUCKING BRANCH TO LIGHT ITSELF ON FIRE
THE REST OF THE BRANCH WOULD BE EVEN WORSE THAN HER, on levels that are incompatible with existing in polite society for so long.

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>>69068485
w/e you say Elira, we're onto you btw

>> No.69072314

A lot of how nijiEN acts is like a cult

>> No.69072367

>>69068485
I'd like to believe you but Niji has tried to Zaion her like 3 times already, so all she has to do to "play the victim" is say literally nothing. Which is basically what she's done.

>> No.69072435

Where is this “NijiEN confirmed the harassment themselves” nonsense coming from? The termination said that Selen has claimed harassment, but that’s not confirmation of harassment, big difference

>> No.69072456

Who is ok these days?

>> No.69072460

>nijisanji shits the bed and literally self reports throughout the entirety of this situation
>it's selen's fault
this cope will never not be funny

>> No.69072561

>>69068485
Keep coping Nijinigger

>> No.69072617

>>69070806
Nijisanji milks graduations for all their worth. It takes a long time of planning and logistics just to "retire". Selen didn't want to go through a multi-month notice charade especially with all the other recent ones that were lined up, she wanted to straight up quit just like Magni and Vesper did in Holostars, and probably didn't want to put up with fake goodbyes to her co-workers that usually happens in a regular graduation since she felt her co-workers were bullies. They should have respected that offer, not every Vtuber needs a fancy funeral.

>> No.69072621 [DELETED] 

Oh hey the rrat thread was deleted

>> No.69072674

>>69068485
Words words words. I ain't reading all that, you mainlander mutt dog. Doki is my big white cock's thicc Cantonese fap fuel and nothing will stop me from watching her.

>> No.69072733 [DELETED] 

>>69072621
Seems to be happening quicker and quicker. Are we flying too close to the sun? If so, full throttle ahead.

>> No.69072732 [DELETED] 

>>69072621
This confirms they are real and Elira is a janny

>> No.69072846 [DELETED] 

>>69072732
>they have full control of /vt/
can this be reported somewhere?

>> No.69072849

>>69068797
Yep. I don't care about anything but the downfall of Niji. If Doki is the match that burns it to the ground then I'm dragoon. Total Niji Death

>> No.69072852

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69072904

>>69070888
There's a difference between reporting on Selen's claims and admitting those accusations to be true.

>> No.69072906 [DELETED] 

>>69072621
A copy of the rrat king is still here >>69069268 in case we need references anyway

>> No.69072920 [DELETED] 

>>69072846
Seems like only reddit is free of their influence after all

>> No.69072951

>>69068485
don't care, didn't read, I'm still team Selen and she was the only thing tying me to NijiEN, now that she's gone, that shithole branch is just full of bullies and unlikeable people

>> No.69073003 [DELETED] 

>>69072920
Imagine if we have to move to fucking Reddit of all places
On that note I remember hearing how it's possible to report jannies?

>> No.69073060

>>69068485
Can't hear you, thanks for trying though

>> No.69073077

>there are no signs of bullying
>2 wirrten notices that concentrate on what a bad person she is and deserved to be fired
>2 official videos that concentrate on telling thousands of people what a bad person she is and she should be shunned
>doki has never mentioned any names tthat were involved in the bullying so they dont get harassed by the internet
yea, no bullying here at all. and she is the bully
schizo kys.

>> No.69073108

>>69072266
This does make me wonder how much Pomu knew about any of this. Has her roommate said anything at all about it yet? Could be any number of possibilities for relative silence on it.

>> No.69073152

>>69068596
Look at her go!

>> No.69073200

>>69073077
Dramabird reaps what she sows and you call it bullying.

>> No.69073244

>selen successfully painted herself as victim and won the favor of the internet but she’s in deep shit for her menhera professional victim lies
HOLY BASED SCHIZO BPD FREAKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>>69073003

>> No.69073281 [DELETED] 

>>69072906
I think we've discussed the bulk of it anyways. Now we just wait for Don Pendora to shit herself live again kek

>> No.69073373

STFU Elira... or Enna... or Millie whatever, nobody believes your bs anymore

>> No.69073420

>>69073077
>stating facts is bullying
get a grip.

>> No.69073428

>>69068596
ULTRA BASED

>> No.69073443

>>69073077
If you’re a bad person to work with and everyone agrees you’re a bad person to work with and you get fired that’s called having consequences for your actions, not harassment jfc

>> No.69073484

>>69068485
Tell me your Elira without telling me your Elira. Your quite retarded. She didn't say anything about you, you self reported.

>> No.69073495

>>69068485
Nice try Millie... NOT

>> No.69073553

>>69069268
>Elira got Millie and Enna hired
But she didn't even know they applied or got accepted until they called her the day before

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>>69068485
Reactions like this are so chinese. This is the sort of chinese teenaged girl who uses the term "Dumphead" as an insult.
You see in China when you are accused of something, if you do not immediately accuse the person who is accusing you with an even bigger accusation you are considered to be the loser or the liar in the situation.
It's so endemic of chinese culture and especially chinese teenaged girls.
I'm fairly confident these days that most Nijidefenders are actually chinese Vox femcels.

>> No.69073653

>>69073443
it's too relatable for many 4chan incels. they look at selen and see a mirror to their own mental illness and terrible personality

>> No.69073774

>>69068596
YUBI YUBI

>> No.69073781

I wish the clique would go stream or play games or something instead of making pathetic attempts to sway the /here/ hivemind. It's not going to work. The "menhera bitch" you hate so much has taken the high road so many times now that you all look absolutely miserable from every single bystander's perspective, /here/ or not.
Wait for your fucking termination letter from Niji Prime and shut the fuck up already.

>> No.69073818

>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69073854

>>69068485
Hi Enna can we have raw sex it’s valentine’s day and I’m in need of a woman’s touch

>> No.69073911

>>69073553
According to themselves... I mean they probably did not want people to figure out they got in because of their friend's influence.

Considering how things are developping, why even give them an ounce of credibility.

Enna and Millie were Elira's goons since day one.

>> No.69073979

>>69073781
>sucide baiting is taking the high road
*yawn*

>> No.69073990

>It's her fault, she just stood there while I shot at her and hit my own foot instead! She's a criminal!

op are you a cop

>> No.69074070

>>69073108
She either was in the clique or she was not but knew about it all, it's pretty telling. And as far as I know she didn't say anything about this probably trying to be far away from drama since either way she would snitch herself if she was not being harassed or could bring drama to herself if she was and get involved in a legal court case.

>> No.69074091

>>69071783
An HR complaint is by definition, not a legal document. The only explanation was that she was threatening a lawsuit. Not that hard to figure out

>> No.69074139

>>69073443
Do you REALLY think it's normal for "friends who are just concerned about you" to publish videos trying to smear your name a week after you left?

>> No.69074183

>>69068485
>screenshot this and come back in however many weeks or months when the public learns the truth of what happened.
Genuinely she will actually kill herself before that happen.

>> No.69074199

>>69068596
>Selensisters proud that they stuff fingers into their ears and they just listen and believe her schizo menhera.
Based retards. Keep it up.

>> No.69074319

>>69069268
The rrat king shall live on
>>69014403

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>>69072266
That post >>69003358 in that picture... I knew I read something similar this morning. That wasn't the only post by that person. >>69023271

>> No.69074360

Whether she's menhera or not, she's not trying to tank Niji's reputation, every bit of info that's come out putting Niji in a bad light has come from Niji themselves. Most people didn't think other talents were involved with Selen's harassment until the termination notice, they thought it was just management before then, most people didn't believe the clique stuff until the Elira stream. If Niji just stayed quiet they wouldn't be in as big of a mess.

>> No.69074435

And yet every single member to ever leave Niji both JP and EN have consistently shat on the company. Unless you're arguing they are all in one big conspiracy together to bring down Niji?

>> No.69074451

>>69074091
https://www.richardnelsonllp.co.uk/services-sectors/employment-law/employees/grievance-complaints/

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>>69074199

>> No.69074518

>>69069096
>Now she's made an enemy of a corporation with $2billion of assets to lose in a ruling

>> No.69074560

>>69074360
They made such a big stink about how Selen's actions with the MV was such a huge blow to Niji's reputation and their futures that they all started messaging her, so I wonder how many Niji talents are furiously messaging Elira, Vox and Ike for putting out that shit tier statement? How many are going after the managers for the termination notice and follow-ups?
Cause what Selen did is nothing compared to how poorly Niji is painting themselves right now.

>> No.69074568

>>69073420
Facts or not, releasing a defamatory hitpiece on a former talent the moment they start streaming a game they weren't allowed to stream at her previous company is bullying.

>> No.69074573

>>69068485
Post feet, Elira.

>> No.69074578

>>69074360
If anything, Doki is probably the most effective defender left for Nijisanji. Everyone else seems either out for their blood, or willing to burn the company down if it harms Doki in the process.

>> No.69074711

>>69068485
so what? knocking nijisisters down a few pegs is a good thing

>> No.69074786

>>69073979
It wasn't a bait, but even if it were, every point after that doki hasn't tried to call out a single name and has only made a statement after you, or the retards paying you to astro turf here, pulled the worst PR statements in existence out of their ass.
Your posts are easy to spot btw, the rotting cooch odor is unmistakable.

>> No.69074810

>>69074199
NIJISEETHE

>> No.69074867

>>69070874
This pasta annoys the shit out of me. Asphyxiation can be extremely peaceful and probably the most humane way to die if the gas is inert. What you mean is suffocation, if you want the subject to suffer.

>> No.69074906

>>69071469
Swagapino at it's finest

>> No.69074915

Even with the actual truth of who did what still deeply unclear, Selenkibirdsuki has clearly won in the court of non-Chinese public opinion. She's managed to keep her composure and resume (what for her counts as) daily work-life and at the very least PROJECT being magnanimous. NijiEN has been a sloppy shop this entire time and accomplished nothing but give everyone guessing who to blame a LOT of ammunition and doing patently shady shit like apostrophe posts.

If your main accusation is bullying, doing a surprise short-notice counterstream to triple-team your target and say "sorry your tried to sudoku but you're the worst friend who's ever lived" is a bad look!

>> No.69074974

>>69068485
>>69074199
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
you must stoop down to my level and pointlessly argue with me
how else would i be able to feed my poor corpo

>> No.69075001

>>69071767
It's ok, he won't get the plaque anyway

>> No.69075042

>>69070210
at least Zaion posted receipts

>> No.69075049

>>69068485
Give it up mate. At this point Selen could be outed as the zodiac killer and it still wouldn't save NijiEN's reputation. Just go watch whoever is left streaming and wait for the branch to be shuttered.

>> No.69075125

>>69074568
bullying strangers is not a crime.
>bb-b-but she used to work there
she doesn't no more LMAO

>>69074786
it is 100% bait and that's why she has now invented a SECOND suicide attempt to garner even more sympathy. how long before she reveals there was actually a 3rd or 4th attempt
and how long before someone teachers her that munching on an aspirin isn't a sucide attempt LMAOOOO

>> No.69075133

>>69074974
Don't argue with me. Please continue being a brainwashed tribalfag.

>> No.69075145

>>69068596
Is this real?

>> No.69075248

>>69075049
Omg, Selen was Ted Cruz all along?

>> No.69075348

>>69075125
What the fuck are you on about?

>> No.69075436

>>69074915
Any halfwit with a PR background could have told Niji it's not about what you did, it's how you act that the public will remember.
I just can't believe out of an entire company, the whole branch, all of the managers or talents, nobody was like "hey, this is going to make us look like garbage assholes, don't do it"?

>> No.69075498

>>69068485
I just hope Niji dies out. Hopefully Holo will suffer the same fate and soon after all the dogshit boring companies who turned vtubing from something cool into western fags infested shit. We should have gatekept more

>> No.69075578

>>69068485
Reminder that all Selen did was imply management was toxic and all Niji had to do was say they were fixing the work environment, they didn't even need to do it for real or fire any manager, all they had to do was SAY they would and everyone would've moved on in a couple weeks.

How is it Selen's fault Nijis first response outing the livers as the bullies?

How was Selen's fault the "negligible" report?

How was Selen's fault the atrocious 15 black screen stream?

How was Selen's fault that the CEO bowed down for a minute in front of a meme worthy black and white background?

How was Selen's fault Scarle's disappearance?

Selen made one tweet, kek.

>> No.69075789

>>69068485
That doesn't make sense though.
BPD is characterized by impulsive behavior. If this was a menhera meltdown, she'd be slathering xitter is shit. Instead, she's hunkering down and telling Niji to let the lawyers do the talking.

>> No.69075791

>>69075578
> Doki plays Neopets
"Reeeeeeeeeeeee it's a call for attention don't you see? she's a menhera!"
The coping is real

>> No.69075797

>>69075578
Get out of here with your reddit spacing

>> No.69075913

>>69075578
I mean, who else is there for Nijsanji management to blame? Their own talents, I guess?

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>>69068485
trvthnvke

>> No.69076077

So how will kurosanji fumble the ball?

>> No.69076125

>>69075986
NO NO NO DELETE THIS!!!!!! DOKISISTAS STAN MENTAL HEALTH!!!!!!! YOU'RE BULLYING ME I CAN'T BREATHE

>> No.69076275

>>69075125
>I want attention!
>Hmm, should I claim I attempted suicide again last night as a direct result of the Elira-and-pals stream?
>Nah, I bet I'd get a lot more attention if I instead clarify how many times it happened a month ago despite Vox already implying that by muddling the timeline of events up

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

>> No.69076308

>>69068979
>They failed at their job and lost their most popular female vtuber
We will all miss Pomu, yes. But what's that to do with Dokibitch?

>> No.69076449

>>69075913
Me. I guess now that the jig is up I'll confess. I used to be Famelira until Zaion came around. I dropped Elira immediately for her.
An All Out War started by a scorned woman with power whose man left her for a younger more attractive vtuber model. I disappeared from public stream chats after Zaion was axed, and only reappeared recently, just before Pomu's graduation.

>> No.69076523

>>69076275
she can't claim it was last night because she was too busy streaming apex to rake in some of that sympathy $$$

>> No.69076558

>>69069719
is that a link in the filename? I can't seem to get it to work

>> No.69076726

>>69076558
hello newfriend. google 4chan external sound. and get 4chanx while you´re at it.

>> No.69076828

>>69076523
I mean, I know that you know it was demonetized with superchats off, so I don't even know why I'm writing this reply in the first place.

>> No.69076880

>>69068485
Holy mother of all esl
learn to write better anon, maybe take classes or something
Maybe use bullet points like you did in the termination letter?

>> No.69076961

Pretending to be a niji defender when you just want to see the fire keep going is a low hanging fruit that just works. But now I am wondering if Selenfags who behave like total retards are also just dramabaiters pretending to be retarded and playing the other side to keep the drama going. You guys can't be this retarded right?

>> No.69076996

>frogs
>wojaks
fucking dramatouristniggers at least pretend to fit in

>> No.69077125

>>69076523
Except that stream wasn’t monetized and had superchats turned off, so explain where the supposed sympathy money is coming from.

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>> No.69077736

>>69068485
this would be more believable if it was only Selen but the whole company has been a complete shitfest both organs and management

>> No.69077833

>trust me bro
I see NDF has moved on to the gaslighting phase since spamming the same thing over and over wasn't working.

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>>69068485
tldr
dont care as long as niji burns

>> No.69078011

Dokisistas... can someone fill me in on the current narrative and hit me up with an invite to the defence force 'cord? is BPD now a based mental illness? are suicide attempts no longer cringe? I'm confused...

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>>69068485
>More fanfiction
Is this what death looks like

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>>69068596
fpbp

>> No.69078458

>>69078105
Definitely desperation

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>>69068596

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>>69078011
>an invite to the defence force 'cord?
Sure here you go, sister.

>> No.69078657

>>69068485
Elira how did Tazumis crusty dick cheese taste on the yacht? was it worth it for the visa? was the threesome with Vox and Ike any better?

>> No.69078788

>>69078595
lmao >69078011 btfo

>> No.69078796

>>69068485
Selen is so manipulative she managed to get the entire company to self-destruct while she said nothing publicly

>> No.69078968

>>69068485
Too long
Not reading
Don't care

Selen could be lying about everything and NijiEN management would still be shit just from what we've seen directly, e.g. impersonating her to cover it up and publicly sharing details of private legal documents.

The only thing that can turn this around is firing all EN management. Until then, fuck off.

>> No.69079218

>>69078796
This. NDF are trying too hard.

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>>69078595
why are they like this?

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As of the last hour or so, posting the GURRAT pics results on deleted threads. I wonder why?

>> No.69079663

>>69079426
Echo chamber only works if it's closed off

>> No.69079738

>>69078796
Yeah, that tweet where Selen thew her manager under the bus and those tweets she made as Doki saying Niji was silencing her and that they were harassing her behind the scenes isn't real. Doki simply did nothing and they're going after her.

Retard

>> No.69079794

>>69068485
I did 9/11 and i was the main idea behind SNEED

>> No.69079810

>>69079426
>Sisters unironically organizing in discord servers to raid this board and slander Doki

>> No.69079847

>>69068485
>tricked by a schizo menhera
happens all the time, just look at all the indies who get mad at each other or turn on their loyal viewers, plenty of examples over the years

>> No.69079860

>>69079738
What about the multiple Niji declarations where they confirmed it, sister?

>> No.69079978

>>69075348
he's a shit stirrer anon. pls undastan he's just trying to be the ebic troll he always dreamed of being

>> No.69080923

back to shitter nijisister

>> No.69080963

>>69079860
Confirmed that they were being accused? Doki still publicly shit on Niji multiple times. It is disingenuous to act like Doki was just existing and minding her own business then all of Niji decided to gangrape her for no reason

>> No.69080961

>>69068485
Even if this is true, all of it, niji management releasing the statements they did and the livestream were pretty much lighting themselves on fire and painting a giant target on their smoldering corpse after. They admitted to bullying in the document, they admitted to sharing her legal papers company wide. One side hasn't attacked anyone publicly even once. The otherside is an actual company who tried to destroy her blew this up and filled it with tons and tons of drama. If there wasn't any bullying before there's proof of it now. If you want niji to recover let it go and move on. Don't self post here if you're involved. It's childish and it will only make things worse.

>> No.69080991

>>69068485
We are believing what Nijisanji says. That's why they are getting so much shit.
Or did you think that Selen released a twitlonger full of accusations or something? If you are, newsflash - most of the shit we have against Niji was from stuff that Niji had said themselves. Selen herself did very little.
Maybe you should change your argument to "stop fucking blindly believing everything NijiEN says since they can't help destroying themselves" instead.

>> No.69081199

>>69080963
Niji went public first every time, they are simply incapable of professionalism. That boot must've stepped in something tasty

>> No.69081327

>>69078595
the most pathetic falseflag I've seen in my entire life. dokitroons are as transparent as glass. is having a mental illness now a requirement to be a fan of hers?

>> No.69081360

>>69068485
she "attempted" and failed twice now. Her motives are clear.

>> No.69081417

>>69070313
This is the way. Niji has done everything themselves to show their bullying and bad mgmt in front of our eyes. There is no reason not to believe her because niji keeps doing the very thing they are accused of doing. Anyone that can't see it is acoustic or is simply a contrarian attention seeking fag

>> No.69081467

>>69079426
Pretty smart of them, I don’t think we’ll be able to infriltrate their discord

>> No.69081607

>>69073616
Chink vox femcels are the worst. One threatened to eat Doki which pretty much says everything

>> No.69081695

>>69068721
Sounds exactly like something Niji would do

>> No.69081726

>>69076275
>despite Vox already implying that by muddling the timeline of events up
Literally where do you think Vox did this? 'Cause it sure as hell wasn't during the 15m address video.

>> No.69081744

>>69068485
>nijirrat here choose to believe me or not
easiest choice of my life, good luck with whatever the rest of what you wrote was though

>> No.69081804

>>69079738
all of that was in response to Nijisanji not letting the matter die. if they had just made a brief statement saying she was fired, she would have let it go. if they had just shut up after she was fired, she would have let it go. but they didn't, and now they're very likely going to be sued for whole host of issues

>> No.69081814

>>69068485
based and true, I'm glad people are waking up and not being suckered in by her act. This whole thing is entirely in her schizo fucking head. friends anxiously trying to contact her is bullying. People asking her wtf are you doing when she's being crazy is bullying. taking 5 Tylenol is an "attempt". She's actually, legitimately insane and all these fuckers are buying it.

>> No.69081963

>>69081804
wrong. this was all part of the plan. she knew they wouldn't let her go without a kick on the ass (that she deserved). She was broke and suicide faking is the oldest pity scam in the book. works every time

>> No.69082052

>>69081814
Yeah dude the managers that have lost six other livers in just over a year and impersonated one to cover up a suicide attempt are definitely extremely competent and not at all malicious.

>> No.69082150

>>69081814
Niji released too much to support it while she hasn't released anything. People are buying what niji wanted them to and hearing their side. There's just nothing to attack her with when you look at all the dumb shit niji themselves are doing. That's why this is happening.

>> No.69082273

>>69078011
>are suicide attempts no longer cringe?
No clue, maybe you should try killing yourself and then we’ll decide from there.

>> No.69082376

>>69076961
It depends entirely on your perspective. I don't understand why, but people seem to dislike the response she released. Are they all just dramafags who wanted her to air out all of her dirty laundry?

>> No.69082488

Reminder, Enna is a coal burning whore that has had multiple trains of niggers ran through her in all of her holes.

>> No.69082541

>>69078011
>are suicide attempts no longer cringe?
Trannies and women don't find it cringe, because they're the ones who attempt and fail the most.

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>>69068485
You still don't understand how bad Zaion's termination was for NijiEN. Selen was just the natural outcome of what Zaion began. All roads lead back to Zaion.

>> No.69082845

>>69078011
>>69082541
Trying too hard kiddos

>> No.69083007

>>69082273
how many pills did /our girl/ take in her attempt? was it 1 aspirin or 2? and how long did she wait before telling her parents she was on the brink of death (from taking a regular dose of aspirin)?

>> No.69083115

>>69082376
>air out all of her dirty laundry
I am a dramafag so the situation is hillarious. If I was invested I would probably want to hear specifically what was the bullying that made her want to kill herself before I would grab a pitchfork. But I suppose I am sane unlike all of her defenders.

>> No.69083192

>>69068596
This is an appropriate circumstance to shitpost with my oshi

>> No.69083326

>>69068596
haha look at her go

>> No.69083365

>>69083115
>I suppose I am sane
Keep telling yourself that ndf, your not even getting paid for this shit, its valentines day go get laid or at least watch your vtuber.

>> No.69083408

>>69083115
>If I was invested I would probably want to hear specifically what was the bullying that made her want to kill herself before I would grab a pitchfork.
On Twitter? It makes more sense for her to go through the legal process, and any information she releases publicly gives the defense more to work with.

>> No.69083432

>>69068485
Whats really telling to me is how none of the other former NijiEN talents who have left the company have come out in support of Selen. You would think that if the environment in NijiEN was so terrible that they would be joining her in her crusade or at least saying something about it, but no, because they know she is full of shit. Other than Zaion of couse but she is a drama queen herself.

>> No.69083549

>>69083408
>It makes more sense for her to go through the legal process, and any information she releases publicly gives the defense more to work with.
Well if that is true then she is sane as well. We are left with just one group being insane.

>> No.69083654

>>69083432
Huh, it's almost like their contracts include some kind of agreement that legally prevents them from disclosing information. Something you would be familiar with if you'd ever had a job above burger flipper level.

>> No.69083660

>>69083365
Do you really think there are only 2 sides here? Niji defense force and selensimps?

>> No.69083737

>>69083549
I keep people saying she should've leaked receipts without realizing that doing so this far ahead of trial allows the defense to construct a narrative that fits the info.

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>>69068485

>> No.69083821

>>69083737
I keep seeing people saying*

>> No.69083838

>>69068485
how much is niji paying the shills today?

>> No.69083845

>>69083654
Come on dude. They haven't even said a simple "I support Dokibird". That is pretty telling to me.

>> No.69084095

>>69083737
I agreed that if she is going to sue it is good that she isn't saying anything. She is also winning on the money front getting money thrown at her from everywhere. Regardless if she is a poor victim or a god tier paypig milker she is pretty good at what she is doing. I am saying that her defenders are insane.

>> No.69084121

>>69083838
Same as their managers

>> No.69084172

>>69084095
But I just defended her and we had a proper conversation. Am I insane?

>> No.69084215

>>69068596
MOGOGOged!

>> No.69084235

>>69081199
Yes, Nijisanji went public about the fact Selen accused them of harassment. Doesn't matter, Doki was going to say the same thing which was proven.

No one is talking about professionalism, it's just a fact that Doki was provoking them, retard.

>> No.69084241

>>69083838
They do it for free, but luckiest ones paid in Luxiem semen particles (it's actually from random people, like Mizuchi handwritings)

>> No.69084276

>>69069658
Retard-chama, literally the only claims from Selen that we've actually heard from her own accounts are things that Anycolor agrees about, except for this most recent tidbit about a second "attempt" which doesn't actually change anything. Meanwhile we've already proven multiple inconsistencies in Anycolor's statements, plus multiple places where they're basically admitting to breaking the law if they're telling the truth.

>> No.69084338

>>69068485
Write some original bait nijifag

>> No.69084359

>>69068596
holy shit look at those moves

>> No.69084383

>>69068596
What a good doggo

>> No.69084406

>>69083845
Most people stay out of drama if they can, especially if there is a possibility that it might involve lawyers. Simple as

>> No.69084433

Come to think of it, Vox very much knows his fanbase is insane and will go after anyone who besmirches him. Even believing he participated in that video in good faith, it was wildly irresponsible to do knowing his fans would weaponize it. You should never do that to anyone if you have a following as huge and as insane as his. I like Vox but this left a bitter taste in my mouth big time.

>> No.69084476

>>69069096
Seethe harder sister, I’m loving it

>> No.69084503

>>69068485
Twomad just died, all attention she got from drama channels and normalfags will be redirected to him instead

>> No.69084549

>>69070554
>They already said she was misrepresenting facts.
This is referring to the part where "management took down the video" is a "misrepresentation" because she didn't say in the tweet that she didn't have clearance, never mind that the clearance requirements were obvious bullshit.
Meanwhile they're trying to turn her recording of a conversation (WHICH IS COMPLETELY LEGAL AND ACCEPTABLE ANYWAY, AND STANDARD PRACTICE IF YOU'RE PURSUING A HARASSMENT CLAIM) into some serious crime, ignoring the context.

>> No.69084585

>>69083408
What legal process? She isn't planning on suing anyone or doing anything probably because she has no case. The next best thing would be claim harassment and show evidence of harassment but she didn't have good enough evidence of harassment so she only claimed it.

This was enough for retards who just believed everything being said even though there was no evidence and now she wins public opinion because she's a small girl who tried to kill herself vs a billion dollar corporation

>> No.69084647

>>69084406
Could be but I highly doubt it. The chances of none of them saying anything if conditions in Niji were really that bad and Selen was truly being victimized are pretty slim.

>> No.69084661

>>69069096
Selen will destroy Niji EN, but shes going far far far in debt.

>> No.69084696

>>69069426
TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>> No.69084717

>>69068485
Gz or sorry that happened.
It's funnier if a whole company goes down and its employees are outed as malicious nepotistic fucks or sexpests, rather than another bpd retard crashing and burning. It's the common trolley problem, sis.

>> No.69084755

>>69084503
>Twomad
I barely know anything about this guy. Is this out of the blue?

>> No.69084773

>>69081814
OP people have been telling you time and time again that it doesn't matter if Selen lied it doesn't excuse the entire barrage of graduations/terminations and other accounts of bullshittery on NijiEN's part

>> No.69084798

>>69070363
Everyone who actually expected her to post receipts is so retarded I literally can't understand how they manage to operate a computer or phone, let alone find their way to /vt/.
There is no reason she should post receipts.
There is no reason why the failure to post receipts would cast doubt on her claims.
There is EVERY reason why she MUST NOT post receipts if she is suing, and all the evidence says she is suing.
My prayers go out to anyone who doesn't understand this. May you never end up in a situation where the law has to get involved because good lord will you mouthbreathing retards fuck yourselves over.

>> No.69084885

>>69084585
Anon, she has a workplace harassment claim. Additionally, she has a claim regarding the documents being shown to the livers and their contents being made public.

>> No.69084936

>>69070103
Of course not. But we can unsubscribe, brands can cancel their collaborations with Niji, and the company can lose milions in the stock market. Have a nice week sis ;)

>> No.69084961

>>69084503
honestly the best thing that could happen in the situation (not for twomad though)

>> No.69084967

>>69084661
Yeah there is no way she survives this. She wins she's screwed, she loses she's screwed, she settles she's screwed.

>> No.69085058

>>69074451
This asking for legal advice in writing a complaint. The complaint itself is not a legal document, all files sent to HR are owned by the company

>> No.69085122
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It feels like an all out war right now lol

>> No.69085232

>>69085122
That's why we call her dramabird, the three legged crow that heralds the apocalypse.

>> No.69085276

>>69084755
Overdose, just like Fentanyl George

>> No.69085275

>>69084406
There's also the fact that they've just been out of the loop for too long and don't know shit. I wouldn't want to repeat kson's mistake backing Rushia. The only one who would have seen enough is Pomu and she DEFINITELY doesn't want drama. What she has said is that she wishes she could have done more, and to spin that as a defense of Niji you'd have to believe that Selen was single-handedly making everyone else's life hell.

>>69084647
Zaion did say conditions were hell, and even if you write her off as crazy Mata and Kuro immediately voiced how shocked they were at managers doing their fucking job. The branch's management is shit no matter what happened with Selen.

>> No.69085279

>>69084503
The Niji drama started with a woman trying to kill herself and failing. It died when a man killed himself and succeeded

Sasuga

>> No.69085364

>>69070888
TOTAL NIJI DEATH

>> No.69085392

>>69085058
did she not mention that she, her lawyer and the niji lawyer signed it and the niji lawyer confirmed that it would not be shared as a part of that agreement?

>> No.69085400

>>69085232
>apocalypse
*Niji apocalypse
Also holy based, Death to nijisanji

>> No.69085466

>>69084885
She has a claim she stated she plans on not using because now she wants to be left alone. That document will never be seen again

She probably would use it if it was beneficial but it's not

>> No.69085510
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69085510

I don't particularly like vtubbers. In fact, I despise the whole industry and everything it represents. I despise the fans. I despise the talents. I find this whole business an emotional scam to trick dumb, lonely losers into giving out the little money they have.

However, I'm loving this. I love how this shit ass company fucked up so much and so hard and now is trying to do damage control like crazy because a dumb, talentless slut got a hurtie.

I'm subbing to Dokibird and denouncing Nijisanji, putting in my little grain of salt into this whole mess just for the pleasure of seeing a big company make a mockery of itself. And I sure hope the clique claims are true too! I would love to see more heads rolling. The shitty Genshin Impact drama has nothing on this absolutely clownshow.

>> No.69085523

>>69084967
I hope people put money where their E-mouth is. They wanted the evil corpo to get fucked, but the battle isn't free for Doki. I don't expect that to be the case though, people like to talk and support a cause until it requires them to put effort/money into it.

>> No.69085565

>>69085275
At yet not a single one of them said anything in support of Selen after she got fired and went public with the harassment. Maybe they know something about her that we don't?

>> No.69085570

>>69068485
>source: trust me bro

Meanwhile, what we can all see with our eyes:
>Niji has a history of firing talents, reputation of being a black company
>"negligible"
>Placing a slam video of Doki at the same time as her first gaming stream, probably not considerate

OP if you have any proof of what you claim, then post it.

>> No.69085575

>>69068884
stop bullying Selen!

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>> No.69085755

>>69068485
>nijirrat here
opinions discarded

>> No.69085830

>>69069268
>>69070434
>>69072266
holy yab, elira is done. If this get revealed as the truth, she should fear for her safety

>> No.69085834

>>69085392
Why would lawyers get involved to sign off confidentiality of an HR complaint? You retards are moving the goalpost

>"It's a lawsuit, she's going to sue the shit out of them "
>Doki reveals she never plans to use the document and never wants it to go public because she probably has no case
>"It was an HR complaint and Niji overreacted and self destructed"

>> No.69085854

>>69085466
Anon, she wants to not focus on it publicly. I have no doubts that she plans on with pursuing legal action considering her lawyer has already reviewed the evidence. Canadian workplace harassment laws are strict and favor the employee.

>> No.69085919

>>69084585
>>69085466
>He thinks "being left alone" by Twitter dramatards is somehow incompatible with a lawsuit conducted in camera
I'm going to sue (You) for breathing air that could be used by individuals above 70 IQ.

>> No.69085981

>>69085834
Who said it was an HR complaint? It was a document meant for her lawyer. They likely shared the document under the agreement that it remained attorneys eyes only, which seems to have been violated.

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>>69085122
My absolute favorite thing about this screencap is the fact that Pomu didn't typo "out" but the dramasister did.

>> No.69086156

>>69085854
If she said she wants to be left alone and be done with it, that means she's not pursuing legal action unless you think she's lying. She wouldn't be able to pursue legal action because she has no case

>> No.69086296

>>69085122
I have seen this image like 100 times, and I still don't understand it

>> No.69086343

>>69071057
nothing was clarified.... we still dont know if the attempt, the bullying or mv story are facts. Just because she said "my lawyer" doesnt mean its real. Hell, she might not even had a lawyer till after being "hospitalized".

>> No.69086351

>>69085834
I'm getting tired of explaining to retards who can't take two seconds to think.

Niji posted a three-page rant smearing Selen to cover their fuck-ups.
Refuting this required Doki to violate her NDA.
In order to defend herself if Niji tried to enforce the NDA, Doki filed legal documents containing evidence of wrongdoing, which would nullify the agreement through whistleblower protections.

If you don't understand basic shit, shut the fuck up.

>> No.69086362

>>69085919
Goalposts shifted.
>Doki: I want to be left alone and move on
>Dramafags: THAT MEANS SHE WANTS TO BE LEFT ALONE AND MOVE ON FROM TWEETER

>> No.69086374

>>69086156
My man, that's not how that works. Her beef is with the company. She doesn't care about going to war with the livers. It's in both parties best interest to not interfere. Remember, this is her response to the Elira, Vox, and Ike stream.

>> No.69086446

It could be true, she could be the mastermind menhera who destroyed Nijisanji EN with her schizo delusions, but it doesn't change the fact Nijisanji made the worst decisions in response and self inflicted majority of the damage.
Even if it comes to that, I don't think many will feel bad for Nijisanji at all simply just because of how shit the company has handled it.
It's almost more sad that Nijisanji EN would let themselves be completely taken down by a menhera with schizo delusions because of the poor decision making.

>> No.69086563

>>69085510
Same here dude. Haven't had this much fun since the vtuber Taiwan drama when it was borderline okay to openly shit on chinks. Good times.

>> No.69086614

>>69085830
Least obvious samefag
>>69085834
>Doki reveals she never plans to use the document
t. ESL retard with no reading comprehension

>> No.69086664

>>69086351
>Niji posted a three-page rant smearing Selen to cover their fuck-ups.
Where's the smear? Where did they lie?
>In order to defend herself if Niji tried to enforce the NDA, Doki filed legal documents containing evidence of wrongdoing, which would nullify the agreement through whistleblower protections.
You just confirmed you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The legal document was why she was fired since the document was what she used to claim harassment. Doki never tried to refute the three page termination like Zaion did because it's fucking true

>> No.69086842

>>69086664
They said she was planning on going public, but that has yet to be shown.

>> No.69086865

>>69086374
Why would she say she's want to be done with the situation if she doesn't want to be done with the situation and wants to sue the company? It's over, she doesn't want to fight in court

>> No.69086925

>>69086156
But she didn't say that, retard. She said she doesn't want the world to be involved. Which it wouldn't be in a court case. She wants dramasisters like (You) to go away so she can take care of her business in the proper, professional way.

>> No.69086996

>>69085834
Do you... do you think that people don't sometimes get lawyers involved with grievance processes, especially between parties where the trust has broken down and communication is difficult? Am I understanding your position correctly here?

>> No.69087030

>>69086343
>We don't know if... are facts
Anon, when both sides of a story agree that something happened and their disagreement is only about the significance or context, the fact of it happening is no longer in question.

>> No.69087075

>>69086865
Because that's basic legal advice.

>> No.69087126

>>69086842
Because her lawyer managed to tard wrangle her.

>> No.69087219

>>69086925
No, I'm pretty sure she explicitly said she was never planning on suing and just wanted to "move on". She says so multiple times, I don't think you fuckers actually read what she said

>> No.69087251

>>69086362
Retard, (You)r side are the dramafags here. And yes, it does mean exactly that, and "goalpost shifting" doesn't mean anything remotely related to correctly pointing out to (You) how English works. Please cope and seethe more.

>> No.69087252

>>69087126
The burden is on them to prove that they had reason to believe that she was taking it public prior to her termination.

>> No.69087354

>>69087219
My man, she has a lawyer. There is no universe where she doesn't sue with a case like this.

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>>69086865
>say she's want to be done with the situation
Please try reading your English textbook some more instead of eating pagpag all day. Perhaps then you might develop the listening and reading comprehension skills required to understand the situation properly.

>> No.69087544

>>69087219
>She says so multiple times
Cool, then (You) should have no problem greentexting it so we can laugh at your miserable failure at reading comprehension.

>> No.69087732

>>69087251
>"I was ready to move on, I had made my last statement and I haven’t looked at anything regarding my past for a full week."
"I requested that I just wanted to move on."
"I thought that was the last time I will hear or think about the document and that this, personally and my own opinion, was the end of the lawyers and legal involvement."

Keep coping, fagoons. She was never going to sue

>> No.69087751

>>69085466
>She probably would use it if it was beneficial but it's not

Or, you know, she doesn't want to be embroiled in lawsuits for the next two years instead of getting her life back on track and making twice as much as anything she may or may not win just by focusing on streaming instead of revisiting the shittiest part of her life over and over.

>>69087354
She literally says in her statement that she expected the surprise termination hours after sending her complaint in would be the last time she'd ever have to look at the document or have any lawyers involved. She's only talking to them again now because of potentially leaked private communication.

>> No.69087916

>>69068485
I agree with most of what you said, but I see no reason to root against this escalating into an ever more intense mutual shit smearing campaign. Let them both keep dragging each other down to hell for all I care. At least it's amusing when you get to be at the spectator's seat, and if the result is a big blow to the popularity of vtubers in the west, all the better.

>> No.69087938

>>69070434
What is the implication behind this one?

>> No.69088155

>>69087751
>She literally says in her statement that she expected the surprise termination hours after sending her complaint in would be the last time she'd ever have to look at the document or have any lawyers involved.
Where?

>> No.69088164

>>69087751
>She's only talking to them again now because of potentially leaked private communication

She is still not going to sue. Notice how she says she'll only send private documents if needed to lawyers. Implying she currently isn't talking to lawyers which means either it was legal for Nijisanji to share the document or Selen dropped it

>> No.69088457

>>69088164
damn this retard skipped reading comprehension day

>> No.69088612

>>69088164
My man, brush up on your English comprehension.
>I'm sorry but these are the things that should be private and if needed, between lawyers.
This means that she plans on only communicating with Anycolor, if necessary, through her lawyer.

>> No.69088628

>>69073979
>only reveal the suicide attempt after the company has fired you without prior announcement and slandered you publicly
>this is "baiting" to the mentally retarded nijinigger
Once again reminder that Selen didn't instigate any of this, not once.

>> No.69088695

>>69068485
Nice try clique.

>> No.69089428

>>69088628
Let's see how the NDF try to warp this. Elira's clique shot themselves in the foot to cover up the bullying and middle management bs.

>> No.69089805

>>69088612
Considering how much she talks about what to be done with the situation, she isn't going to doing anything. Especially if she's as broke as she claims

Anyone is in debt isn't going to immediately throw thousands of dollars to lawyers to file a lawsuit they probably won't win

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>>69068485

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