/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

https://youtu.be/A1YCUbQOJB0?t=883
>It's very unfortunate that we'll have to make it public later on

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Bruh, my neopets stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922379
This. The greatest crime of the century aside from terminating her was interrupting that unbridled kino.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Niji is so fucked.

[Anonymous No.]

Who would win: An entire team of faceless chinese suits or 1 bipolar bird

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
>Backstabber
>Every Ex-Niji
Welp, what a surprise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
God, her old model is so perfect for this shit storm. Smug ass bird, love you though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922524
she's borderline not bipolar

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922550
You meant every current organ.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
>doki has receipts
>dramachannels have exclusive info
dramafags eating good in the following days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922597
There's a reason why mysta and nina and pomu dont follow her

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
I'll never forgive them for taking away neopets

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922705
Yeah, the reason you made up in your head, it must be true

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
receipts doko
stop fucking strategizing and yolo it out already
the fuck are you doing not being retarded and reviewing it
WE WANT DRAMA
WE WANT IT NOWWWWWWWWWWW

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922825
Wait for the morning bruh

[Anonymous No.]

and they instantly proved what shitbags they are by going the standard scumbag-who-just-got-caught route of crying about it being so unfair and wrong that she kept reciepts

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922633
False and khyo having a raging boner
Asmongold will also milk this drama after the genshin vs hsr tectone drama

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922825
She's consulting with her lawyer before she posts anything public.
Something Nijisanji EN doesn't know how to do.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922705
You do know they’d be free to talk about that now, right? Conversely, who can they collectively not talk about?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Go fuck em up, Doki. They absolutely deserve it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922705
>Mysta never interacted with her at all
>Nina has always been kind of a bitch
>Pomu was a part of nova's clique
Pretty understandable really.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922895
>>68922959
that's too fucking sane and reasonable
i'm watching her because people told me she's a bpd menhera loose cannon. where the fuck is my juicy action

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923061
listening to every schizo /here/ fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922524

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922805
>My source of info is differ to the majorities so I choose to be blinded by rage and dramas.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923105
every schizo rrat was right so far

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923235
your source of information is your imagination

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923235
Good morning sir

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923277
>KEWK
>this bitch is truly blinded of drama. Keep coming dramanigger.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923235
Good morning sirs, one shit bucket has been delivered to your address.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923274
Okay newfag, let me spell it out for you. You have to sift through the real shit and delusional. If you listen to every take, you're a fucking idiot. Filter what looks legitimate and what isn't because IT'S AN ALL OUT WAR here

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923396
Good evening dwarf.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922825
Calm the fuck down, FalseEyeD

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923470
>Another ESL calling, another ESL. Every damn time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923235
very good english sirs

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923570
How much did doki pay you?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
I hope asmongold fucks off forever and never posts again.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923561
You're putting in good work sirs. We'll be mailing the shit bucket bundle very soon, keep it up sirs!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923628

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>>68922346
THIS HAPPEN CAUSE SHE CAN'T GET THE GRADUATION MONEY!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923548
Are you kidding? Dramatubers want to drag this out slowly for months. The flurry of shit we had tonight should have been five days worth of videos easily if it were spread out, but because it all came out in three hours they had to make and scrap and rerecord five times just to get one video out. What they want is for selen to drop some juicy >implications tomorrow morning and then ruminate over them all day before she streams tonight and hints just a tidbit of truth.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
I fucking wake up wanting to watch the vod, instead i wake up to this

I am genuinely wanting to get bots and raid streams like the chinks did to Coco

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923628
Doki paid me to make fun of your awful English? That makes no sense.
>verification not required

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923798
unlike for chinks, even a simple ddos (i think flooding chat counts) is a federal crime in the US.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923818
Oh okay you probably sucking doki's dick. Noted to that sir.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923274
I remember when the mikeneko stuff came out with her being married to mafu just a couple weeks ago and there was a bunch of people (or one determined soul) trying to convince everyone it was Ado.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923818
Give him a break, he just got done a 10 hour shift at the call center.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923061
It's funny that the NDF accuses Selen of being a menhera when it has been niji who upped the ante at every turn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Holy Zasedd.

This is going to be legendary

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924072
Much like calling Luca’s mod a groomer and saying he dindu nuffin, the NDF have to twist the circumstances so they seem less horrid.

[Anonymous No.]

TOTAL NIJI ORGAN EXTERMINATION

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
I hope ruining that neopets stream was worth it, assholes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
I thought the males were unaffected until now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
>-24K
OH SHIT SELEN ITS SO FUCKING OVER FOR YOU

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
doki must do a proper neopets stream to make up for the one that got elira'd.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924547
They were
Until vox and ike decided to jump in like retards

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
The neopets stream was cut short no thanks to Nijisanji. I hope she'll stream the game again after all of this is over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
>The absolute state of "ewiwa" and le retard de vox akuma
>sisters are finally hearing about the Luca shitstorm (which would be fucking huge but ironically is overshadowed by the selen fiasco.. but soon will get its time in the sun)
>millie and enna getting a taste of the just desserts to come
>the absolute state of rosemi, probably being unsubbed from because it's funny
>finana being gaslit again

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
The more people cover this drama, the better. NijiEN needs to get rekt hard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Anybody else distracted by the neck snake

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
I heard Neuro called Asmongold 'Hasgonebald' - that's it, he's done and dusted. He needs to just pack it up and leave these waters never to return.

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>>68923898
NTA but I'd love to suck on her toes. Anyway, this mongolian basketweaving forum is not for the likes of people who don't speak god's language. So back to 5ch with you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922550
Den of scum and villainy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
I like how those guys used to be hated here until they became a weapon to be used against Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925519
The enemy of my enemy is my friend - sun tzu.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Hopefully she'll get his by a bus while leaving the bank with all her blood money from betraying her friends and coworkers. Karma will get her in the end, it always does

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925519
I still hate them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925519
They still are. Most mentions of them are sarcastic or outright mocking. Then there's that containment-breaching faggot dude who self-promos.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925684
>Karma will get her in the end, it always does
Strangely apt for the current situation

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
>I hope it explains why myself and some liver decided to approach Selen and ask about her handling of the situation.
>She had been , without my consent, recording me.
Oh Vox... You plum done gone daggone did it now son.

[Anonymous No.]

FUCK NIJISANJI FOR RUINING THE NEOPETS STREAM. I'LL NEVER FORGIVE THOSE CORRUPT MOTHERFUCKERS FOR THIS SHIT. I HOPE THEY FUCKING GO BANKRUPT

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925946
i hate fauna so much
there, i said it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Vox literally talked about finding out she was recording him. How could they possibly "not know" about the "receipts"?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925992
>i hate fauna so much
>t.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925992
I bet Fauna would play Neopets if they had the perms

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922825
YWNBAM

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926025
noooo don't portray me like mori!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923235
SIR.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923798
Do it. I say FUCKING DO IT! Raid the hell out of Enna, Millie, Luca, Vox and all cliqueshitters. Even raid the main Nijisanji YT account while you're at it.

Leave Scarle and Vivi alone though. They've got nothing to do with this mess.

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>>68925684
Fuck off Enna.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923898
come on bro I'm running out of image macros for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
>Nina and Yugo included

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>>68925519
I unironically want them to keep making drama vids about niji. That corpo needs to fucking crash and burn

[Anonymous No.]

Bloody selen benchod ruin good company name

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
Why does this chart include Mysta, Nina and Yugo, and why does it say they got all their subscribers in the last 30 days? It also has Pomu but without that glitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
GO NINA
GO YUGO
GO MYSTA

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926405
Good morningggggggg NDF SAAAR

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926069
That's your own picture, retarded ass sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>ESLs calling each other ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
They’re both probably fully erect 24/7 seeing niji crash and burn.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923061
She's getting therapy and probably on meds as well.
At this point she's probably the saner party in this conflict.

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>>68924173
I love that this table doesn't include XSOLEIL and after that. Vivi almost got her 100K subs but then all of these dumpster fires happened.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926575
By staying calm, she's making Niji look like a child throwing a temper tantrum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925992
I love Fauna so much
There, I said it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926681
nijisanji's actions in this drama have been rushia-tier

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
Elira racing Doki to 500k

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
> Every HoloID is now ahead of every NIJIEN girl

nice try Riku, but you want to challenge council, you'll have to get past this tiny dagger first.

[Anonymous No.]

Wait. Do we know it was someone on EN for certain? How often did the branches collab?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923118
Underrated post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68927063
https://twitter.com/vgumihoe/status/1757272804188446877

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925519
The only people who hate them are the ones who fell for the nijinig psyops

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>>68922705
Mysta was literally part of the clique you retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923061
Everyone here thinks BPD = Rushia and gets disappointed when that isn't the case

[Anonymous No.]

>>68927306
Idk, looks pretty similar in this case.

[Anonymous No.]

Well where are they doki? Elira posted receipts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926933
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922633
False says he has damning exclusive info about Niji. That's why he has such a bias towards the company. After 8 weeks or so when the source clears from Niji, he'll rip Niji a new one. Can't wait....

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>>68927452
Currently loaded into the lawyer gun, I imagine

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923055
praying Pomu is only staying out of it because Holo hired her and they want her to stay out of it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68924173
imagine if luca drop below 1m, you think youtube will take back his play button? OH WAIT
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.]

>>68927452
>Elira posted receipts
>they might have fucked the situation for niji even harder
Patience, young one

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
Are people subscribing to graduated channels out of spite?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68927452
unlike kurosanji, doki lawyered up

[Anonymous No.]

Damn Nijisanji just keeps making the situation worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
So why did they pick the literal date of her first real stream to drop this? Like it was totally on purpose and just makes them look like even bigger assholes, so why?
Who in the fuck is their PR guy, like an actual monkey?

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>>68928239
They wanted to rattle her and get her to say stupid shit live, not realizing they were saying stupid live in the process.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925946
NORMALIZE NEVER ENDING HATRED IN YOUR SOUL

[Anonymous No.]

She will turn out to be Miguel Gato/Amber Heard and every tard defending her will look like a massive clown. She is trying to sue Elira and other in the same country, what a retard lmao. She's never going to win the court battle.

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>>68928268
lmao they rattled her so hard she didn't fuckin say anything. good strat

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928325
nice cope, NDFsister. but doki wanted nothing out of this. she was willing to settle for a graduation but they terminated her instead. even then, she was willing to move on but they chased after her.

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>>68928448
>doki wanted nothing out of this
>Elira had to come forward with a statement about her trying to sue them
Dokicucks have brain damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923061
It comes from the nijisanji.
The role are reversed.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928535
Not him, but can you actually read?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928404
Her lawyer doing a good jon consulting her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928587
She was already trying to sue people before the termination.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928535
>NDF being a retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922524
Chinese suits vs scorned Chinese women
Chinese women always win

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928650
>no argument
Shit brained Dokicuck

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928634
>>68928674
>retard doubles down like kurosanji
KEK MY SIDES

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928634
You know I want to tell how this works. You can be lawyered up before hand just in case something does happen to be smart, right? Like this is the smart way to handle these things.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928698
Nice argument

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
The smirk at the bottom
Absolute superiority

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>>68922346
>kept receipts
this bitch is crazy or what japs would call menhera

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928730
Termination notice said "threat to the ongoing activity of other affiliated Livers". She wanted blood from the start.

[Anonymous No.]

Even if we assume selen was completely in the wrong, the whole thing is such a PR disaster it's ridiculous.

Also dammit, I'm supposed to be working, can't focus with all going on

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928674
>>68928731
you want arguments?
>doki trying to sue elira
didn't happen. it was more likely a counter statement because kurosanji kept coming after her
here's what actually happened though
>kurosanji led them to believe that doki was suing because their names were used on the counter statement
>they make the retarded video in which
>>they admit on seeing LEGALLY BINDING DOCUMENTS that weren't for their eyes to see. in which will incriminate them and the company
>>name dropped millie and enna (LOL)
your black company is over, NDFsister

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928883
Termination notice said a lot of shit with no receipts.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928731
NIJISEETHE

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>>68929064
>real names of people were used for no reason, she just wanted the company to be held accountable okay?
You headcanon sounds just as mentally ill as Doki

[Anonymous No.]

Mr. Therapist is in for some real shit this week.

[Anonymous No.]

AMBER HUUUUURD EEEEEEEEHHHH NDFKEK CAN YOU SHUT THE FUUCK UP U SOUND LIKE A FUCKEN DUMB WHORE

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929211
real names are required for legal cases, NDFsister. it's not doxxing. the real doxxing was when elira, ike and vox saw her medical records and most likely her real name.
it's funny how you bring up "headcanon", you NDFfaggots are the ones with it. along with your black company.
kurosanji could've just terminated her like any other liver on a tuesday but nah, they kept and coming and digging their own grave deeper.
anywhore, im done giving you (you)s, faggot

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929211
The fuck did you expect them to use the avatar names in a court of law?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929211
Based retard giving cartoon names to the judge

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929211
You might legit be mentally retarded. Probably should get that diagnosed and get some help with life. Or save everyone the trouble and just sudoku

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
hololive... only grows stronger >:3

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929211
>Your honor, I was harrassed by a witch, a dragon, and a bird-thing!

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>>68929547
And why were their real names used if this was only about the company like you claim?

>>68929572
>>68929620
Why are they being dragged into something that allegedly has only to do with the company?

You cannot use your brain you ape. The crazy chink is trying to sue people in her own country and she has an extremely slim chance of winning.

>>68929739
So she's trying to sue them in other words?

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>>68929211
>The defendant, Elira Pendora... what the fuck?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928883
> Niji said it so it must be true

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928024
By God, same.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929620
holy shit imagine persona 3 tier fucking japanese name pronunciation we would get from the judge

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
Drives me nuts that dramatubers have an audience when they can't even pronounce the names correctly half of the time. I hate them more than monotone reactfags like Asmon and Moist, who don't really give a shit.

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>>68929768
NTA but you're retarded. If you're submitting LEGAL documents you need to use people's LEGAL names so the COURT knows who the fuck you are talking about because on their registers they don't have a fucking Elira Pendragon or Millie Parfait.

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>>68929211
There's no fucking way a functional human being doesn't know that you HAVE to use real names in court documents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929768
They don't have to be the ones being sued to be summoned as witnesses, which would require their legal names. Think for one second.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930053
>Nijisister
>functional human being
Anon, you are talking to a 14 yo girl.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929768
You're the kinda dude who thinks Ron DeSantis is gonna call Mickey Mouse himself up into the stands in his Disney lawsuits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929981
>>68930053
This is a circular argument and you have shit for brains. Elira, Millie, etc wouldn't need to be involved in this if it was only about the company.

>>68930082
Witnesses for what?

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>>68925519
When Hololive actually makes the biggest drama, trust me a lot of people are gonna start hating these dramatubers and remember why they do.

[Anonymous No.]

god I love that smug face

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929211
>I call.. Mr. Bandage to the stand.

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>>68928588
I'm guessing they obviously severely violated some Canadian employment laws, which foreign companies are still bound by even if the person is a contractor. The lawyer probally told her to say fucking nothing he doesn't tell her to say because the case is such an easy win. The great thing about this is that the Canadian government will fight for Doki as well if its proven so Niji won't even be able to drag it out to drown her in legal bills since the gov will foot the bill and go after them for it once they win. ALSO there are treaties about this stuff that Japan and Canada are part of so the Japanese Gov. will force Niji to pay kek. If Doki is truly in the right this is going to get real funny since Niji seems to be oblivious to how strong Canadian employment laws are.

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>>68922941
genshin vs hsr tectone drama?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928404
Have you ever heard of the right to remain silent? Would you like to exercise it now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68929768
>>68930156
at least use vtuber images if you're going to avatarfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>68925519
I still hate them all except False, he seems to have some integrity and actual journalistic standards. Khyo, Hero Hei, Asmon, and the others are seething faggots who don't actually like vtubers and just like drama. False actually seems to care about them and shares positive news and promotes indies and stuff.

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>>68930156
>circular argument

Exactly what you're doing right now, deliberately trying to get a rise out of people by being obtuse. Some anons took the bait, but the others have already pointed out the inanity of your shit. You've got no legs to stand on, and you know this. Have another (You), though.

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>>68922346
uhoh...

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>>68926405
What the fuck is a "benchod"? Speak english, retarded faggot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930156
>Elira, Millie, etc wouldn't need to be involved in this if it was only about the company.
It is about the company. Elira and Millie work for the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922573
Wait, is she really borderline? People with BPD are so awful that I would rather trust Kurosanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930621
BPD nigger here

You're a dumb faggot and need to stop reading pop psych articles.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922941
Now that Asmon-papa has renamed 2434 to Ripbozo, can we all just call them that going forwards?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928840
Like she said in her stream, she only kept those as a backup in case something like this happened.

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>>68929211
That stuff was only supposed to be seen by the court and the people involved, you idiot.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930491
Khyo is a confirmed chumbud.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930490
I like smugg characters that aren't Doki.

>>68930515
>uhh it's only about the company, the real names were used for no reason
I'm applying Occam's Razor to the situation and you're coming up with some unlikely retarded about them having to use their real names without this having to do with themselves. Why are their real names being used? It either has to do with witnesses or accusations and the latter is way more likely. I cannot think of a scenario where they would be witnesses.

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>>68930156
"Did you Elira Pendora say the following to Selen Tatsuki on december 20 'yeah i break that rule all the time and have never suffered any consequences'."

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>>68930988
Don't use Frieren for your shitty shitpost, retard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930988
>I'm applying Occam's Razor to the situation
Which is still conjecture, and wild conjecture is the bread and butter of /vt/, so complaining about it outs you as a newfag.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928239
>Actual monkey
Yes

[Anonymous No.]

[Anonymous No.]

>>68931346 was a response to >>68930988 by the way.

[Anonymous No.]

>receipts
Does the Doki watch Raslin'?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68931430
Doubt t, but Rosemi probably does.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
Ignoring everything. Her smug face just makes me irrationally angry

[Anonymous No.]

Its over (real)

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
will fauna finally kms herself when fuwamoco passes her in no time

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926933
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
god I love the perpetually smug face her model has it's really cute. Never really bothered watching her much when she's niji but she's now growing on me I might tune in every once in a while.

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>>68925519
I hate them but they should do a kamikaze attack on niji, then some crazy sister kills them, a win win for everyone involved

[Anonymous No.]

>>68931786
She's not a SEA numbermonkey from what I know, so that's unlikely. You definitely should though.

[Anonymous No.]

So what's Selen's endgame here? She does all this out of spite, wanting to get EN shut down and all the talent fired? what a fucking cunt. all as a cover to run her fake suicide grift, it's like a movie plot it's so diabolical

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>>68932809
based free all of the talents from that shithole company

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930621
yeah, bpd schizoids don't even belong in society, she should be in an asylum. she clearly can't make good decisions

[Anonymous No.]

>>68932809
It is AnyColor and only AnyColor who has chosen to make any of this open to the public. Retarded ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
>Receipts
>Secretly recorded convos with people who thought they were her friends
We know who the problem is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68932911
More like Selen knew who the problem people were, so she figured she might as well get some actual evidence for the slippery fuckers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68927306
could just as easily be self-diagnosis. cringeworthy but harmless

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933354
Do you record your coworkers just in case?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68928268
>>68928404
She went full Shkreli kek
https://youtu.be/3D3oeurgP0s?t=19

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923061
>whole drama is about bullying and false accusations behind the scene
who do you think called her bpd and manhera, anon? you think livers magically cant be on /vt/?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68930433
Now add PIPEDA violations and this shit is a slam dunk, the Canadian government going to fuck nijisanji without lube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68923118
Thats not how the meme works, she'd have to eat shit and die a pathetic death afterwards.
If anyone's Gojo, it's Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933553
If I was working in a black company with abusive co-workers, then yes.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933553
Yes, I record and note down all my interactions with people I have problems.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68932879
>>68930621
Hate to be that person but the threads upon threads saying this bothers me. BPD doesn't even have genetic markers, it's a very outdated diagnosis. Don't define a person by such a wildly different presenting disorder.

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>>68933674
That's yet to be seen, not taking sides.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933553
Yes and I got my boss fired and saved my own ass when things started to stink. Canada is 1 party consent so you can record people without telling the other person.

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>>68933553
>Do you record your coworkers just in case?
if they were being psychos and harassing me? uhhhhh yeah and then I'd sue all their asses and the company for wrongful termination if they tried covering it up lol
>Federal law (18 U.S.C. § 2511) requires one-party consent, which means you can record a phone call or conversation so long as you are a party to the conversation. If you are not a party to the conversation, you can record a conversation or phone call only if at least one party consents and has full knowledge that the communication will be recorded. The statute also prohibits recording conversations with criminal or tortious intent.

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>>68933553
>"No, don't recorderino the people trying to fuck you over"
You better be pretending

[Anonymous No.]

>>68934034
BASED

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>>68927233
I hate them because they’re cancerous to the vtuber community. Nijisanji being exposed as a major blight is self-regulating. They’ll either crash and burn, or do enough to hit equilibrium and have all this forgotten. These drama leeches will always be circling like sharks unless they’re exiled. They’ll go after your Oshi, my Oshi, and anyone else at all, so long as they can farm content and stoke flames to make things worse. Dramaniggers are lower than the lowest, because they’re not truly part of this hobby.

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>>68933561
>1:08
That fucking smirk, KEK

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>>68932809
She want to graduate without any issues.
Anycolour chose WAR

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>>68934254
Isn't the vast majority of False's daily coverage either neutral or positive? He'll jump on drama like anyone would but when there isn't drama (the majority of the time) he just does general news.

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>>68933553
If you're intelligent you do.

[Anonymous No.]

Her voice and breathing became more and more erratic during that stream; she is afraid.

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>>68926214
>nerissa that high
holy shit what's wrong with w*stoids npcs

[Anonymous No.]

>>68934818
would you also not be afraid and angry the moment you find out that your former coworkers were given private legal documents containing lawsuit evidence for the purpose of publicly shaming you?

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>>68934558
agree to this. i just watch false for general news. too lazy to follow everything about the scene

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>>68922346
if she's not going to provide receipts that she actually tried to kill herself, then the fatty is a lying piece of shit who only wanted a quick cash grab.

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>>68933553
You know, I recorded every convo I had with other agents and with customers and clients just in case I needed it for legal issues after one fucktard threatened to get my license pulled. It's just good business sense to protect yourself if you know you'll end up working around litigious Americans.

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>>68935349
Or she is afraid of her closet full of skeletons that she left at Nijisanji.

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>>68935349
>>68934818
Thank goodness for the lawyer's advice. She might have easier time now in the legal battle.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68934442
ALL OUT WAR

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>>68933674
People don't care about the meme and they still cling to hope that Gojoke will somehow come back even as SUCK flies around with his lackey making fun of Yuji for being a loser.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68932708
of course she's not a numbermonkey, she doesn't get the numbers to not kill herself if she was

[Anonymous No.]

Riddle me this, anons: why didn't Doki go for a group case?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68935585
keep dreaming NDF
>>68935625
she's handling this like a champ. i'm legitimately so proud of her for reacting the way she did, it must have been absolutely terrifying for this to happen while she was live and she had no way of knowing at the time how much information they were going to share. she ended at the right time after having said the right things, every incident so far has just been anycolor digging themselves deeper in the hole and her not giving them any ammo

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>>68935585
They breached legal confidentiality for the purpose of public slander and "getting le epic win" over Doki when the situation was already dying down. I don't think she's the one who is afraid. More likely pissed and stressed that they broke her trust yet again

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>>68924173
>-17,000
SHEEEEEEESH

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>>68928919
Selen is objectively in the wrong, she broke policy, then doubled down the the video was privated and did actual potential damage by the public to download and redistribute it.
They could have terminated her 30 days from the meedical event with a basic PR release saying breach of contract (Selen even wanted this), we'd be sad to see it happen and move on.

Instead they did every wrong move possible up until the CEO's video which was a pretty standard crisis response video

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>>68934442
>>68935643

Does kind of have emu war vibes

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>>68928239
>>68931259
Let's be fair here, an actual monkey couldn't do this much damage on its own.

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>>68936570
I think it's interesting that yeah, literally the single time that Selen was technically in the wrong is the thing that Niji keeps trying to focus on and get people to agree with them... completely ignoring the fact that to EN, she morally wasn't wrong in publishing it. She technically broke their rules but in the EN court of public opinion the way they were dragging their feet was ridiculous and her rule-breaking was justified, instead of accepting defeat there Niji keeps trying to double down on it and in doing so they're committing actual moral AND legal wrongs. It seems very Japanese to repeatedly hammer on an objective technical rulebreaking and expecting the public to agree with them instead of accounting for the situation at large and the L that keeps getting bigger.

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>>68935985
Look again

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>>68936696
What if the monkey is train to do as much damage as posible?

[Anonymous No.]

So wait it's all Doki's fault who the fuck do I believe now?

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>>68937513
Believe that NijiEN will find some way to fist themselves

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>>68936570
>Selen is objectively in the wrong, she broke policy, then doubled down the the video was privated and did actual potential damage by the public to download and redistribute it.
>They could have terminated her 30 days from the meedical event with a basic PR release saying breach of contract
you should stop and think for a second about why they didn't actually do that and why it took them 37 hours to answer with nothingburger instead of doing their fucking job? There's literally no reason to not approve the MV.
So is she "objectively in the wrong" or was she actually harassed by the management as she claimed?

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>>68926756
actually true, which is insane lmao

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>>68922346
reveal everything, dramawhore. this bitch is probably sadly and stupidly tricked by her lawyers.
lawyers always 100% side with their business partner even if they know its absolutely ridiculous but she probably doesnt understand it.

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>>68937864
Two wrongs don't make a right. Context literally does not matter here.
If I sold games at 11pm the night prior of midnight the day of, morally and reputationally no damage would be done to any stakeholders. But I'm objectively in the wrong.
You can be objectively in the wrong, and still be unfairly harassed.

Again, it should've just been a breach of contract, minimum 30 days notice because of the medical event, shake hands, part ways.

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>>68937864
It's both, she was objectively in the "wrong" by breaking their dumb bullshit insane rules and she was also harassed by management. You need to remember that the Anycolor/JP definition of "wrong" is different from EN public definition of "wrong", the west goes with the more subjective feeling of what's morally wrong while JP goes with the objective fact of rulebreaking as the definition of wrong, even if that rulebreaking was justified. If you keep that in mind when reading JP responses to the situation their reactions make way more sense, they're experiencing a conflict where they also think Selen's actions were justified but at the same time they're fighting with the cultural standards drilled into them that they always have to follow the rules.

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>>68938250
<=== Reddit that way, tourists not welcome. Your IQ must be this High to post here.

[Anonymous No.]

Im OOTL bros..
which 3 member that spoke out about the bullies?
Any stream that I could watch?

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>>68938510
The stream in question is on Elira's channel

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>>68922346
She's not going to do that. And it's dumb of her to say that. As will be advised by her lawyer. Public opinion is already on her side so they just need to settle it in a years-long court battle.

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>>68938470
no argument, troon. the tourist is you. why would sjw troons like you even post here

tell her to reveal everything.

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>i have receipts
>doesnt post them
is there a lore reason why she's 'trying to move past it' but keeps baiting dramafags?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68938688
Because she's being tardwrangled by a lawyer. Dramafaggots like you that just want to watch everything burn will have to be patient.

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>>68938688
Ask NijiEN

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>>68938688
You are the only one baiting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68938688
The receipts are a legal threat, not a twitter shit flinging threat.

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>>68938325
>>68938383
what rules did she actually break tho? is manager her fucking boss?

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>>68938325
It would be more like higher ups telling you, you cant release the game, because of a reason they had to have already know of, for a long time. On top of everything else that happened before

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>>68938688
>post your legal defense to social media
anon...

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>>68938688
it's 6am her time, she needed to spend the night and probably this morning talking with her lawyer before showing anything. even then there's a high chance she can't and shouldn't show very much because this is now at the point where she should be and probably is pursuing legal action
in every part of this doki hasn't said anything specific until anycolor said something about it first, it's not in her best interest to show legal evidence when she already has the public's trust and favour

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>>68938688
the lore reason is she talks to a lawyer before she acts
>trying to move past it
she would have, if dumb, dumber, and dumbass didn't put out a hit piece on her while she was just trying to play neopets

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>>68938595
Thanks bro. Im loving this so much
Praying to kekgod that niji burn to the ground and doki neck herself. The True Ending

[Anonymous No.]

>>68938920
She made the video public without approval at that moment from management. Don't bite my head off, I think she did the right thing but reality is that she did break their stupid rules.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68938920
Releasing an MV before it was approved.

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>>68939063
>the lore reason is she talks to a lawyer before she acts
Dramatards are unable to understand this

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>>68926620
XSOLEIL are the only people I feel sorry for in this whole mess, They couldn't possibly have been a part of the bullying since they've known Selen for all of two months.

Poor bastards were last on board this sinking ship.

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>>68938920
Are you fucking daft?
Publishing a public statement, on a company account, talking badly about the company that employs you was the *actual* suspension causing event.

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>>68938995
It helps that not saying anything specific makes Niji act like retards.

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>>68939204
She didn't talk badly about about the company, she said "management privated the video" without further comment which is completely neutral objective truth.

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>>68928239
An actual monkey would have put a stop to that stream while it was still just an idea. What ever is running damage control for Niji is worse than a monkey.

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>>68939112
>>68939129
Do you know that's the rule tho?
They talked quite a lot about their "activity rules" but did not exactly named them and also justified them by talking about legal and copyright shit... which "ex-livers" shouldn't even be really a part of.
They also did not exactly explain why "ex-livers" will make approvement process harder. If anything they were super dodging the actual reason for taking MV down. If not DM screenshots that weren't even properly acknowledged we would still be playing a guessing game.
>>68939204
What are you talking about? You mean her making the factual statement about MV being privated by the management? lol Or part where she said to reupload it?
So why didn't they fire here then and there then?

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>>68937418
even if you trained the monkey and you gave it a grenade or some other sort of explosive it would end up killing itself before it did even 1/10th the damage the current niji PR team has done

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>>68939692
Do you? Even someone as dumb as Millie got it, I don't see why can't Selen do the same.

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>>68939692
>So why didn't they fire here then and there then?
Because she attempted suicide.
Medical events under japanese law need at least 30 days before you can terminate employment or it's retaliatory.

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>>68925657
This but unironically.

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>>68939692
We don't know exactly what rules they're told they have to follow because that's private information, we're just giving Niji the benefit of the doubt that that was a rule that she did break. There isn't any harm to giving them the benefit of the doubt on that either as every single other action they've taken has been terrible, it's not like a rule where you can't make a video public without explicit approval would be strange or unusual.
Japan has a 30 day law after a medical incident, BC has a three week notice law if the employee has been working there for multiple years. No matter what country they're going by they couldn't fire her right away.

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>>68939762
>Do you? Even someone as dumb as Millie got it, I don't see why can't Selen do the same.
Because she was harassed by the management. It's that simple

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>>68939783
Did they actually give her 30 days though? I know they were harassing her emergency contact while she was in the hospital getting her stomach pumped.

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>>68940286
How the fuck does that answer, "do you know the rule"? Are you saying Niji made special rules for her?

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>>68940433
Selen stated she wanted to leave on January 26, assuming she was discharged on the 27th that's 30 days

>>68940570
Not him, but they have explicitly made rules for selen regarding international tournaments, but allowed it for suika game for other talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>68940570
That's the accusation, and has been for a while, that Niji added rules to retroactively punish her for not asking her manager to do everything.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68934906
She got the recent sister buff + clipfags attention

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>>68923061
She's actually not a menhera, it''s just a Niji Defense Force talking point to explain their follow up claims of "there was no harassment, she and all the ex-Niji vTubers made everything up." She has generally acted as the more reasonable party in each instance of this disaster.

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>>68940858
>she's actually not menhara
It's like you don't watch her at all. Here's a refresher - when she had a meltdown losing in FPS.

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>>68929211
can't wait to see the court full of tv screens with anime characters saying their testimonies

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933813
This person has borderline and is a danger to themselves and society

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>>68940570
yes but also I do not think niji management actually needed 37+ hours to confirm something that didn't require any actual confirmation.
It's all bullshit. And they themselves know it. Their actions tell us they 100% know they were using bullshit reasons to stall the MV.

[Anonymous No.]

I need to hear that recording between Salen and Vox. What could he have been saying for her to bother with that?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941302
It was new year's eve, ffs. Again, if it was so important, Selen should've asked much much earlier.

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People are missing the forest for the trees. Technically, neither the suspension nor the termination are relevant to the hot button issue.
In all the chaos people forget that Selen hasn't actually bothered to contest the termination in the slightest - she hasn't even brought it up except in the context that she asked to graduate earlier and was terminated instead. Yes, many people feel that the termination is unjustified as well for various reasons, but it's not the centerpiece of the case by a long shot, it's just the icing on the cake.
The main issue, because Anycolor so stupidly published that hit piece, is the harassment that took place at the company long before the MV. In fact, the only way I can see the MV publication being relevant would make things worse for Anycolor - for example, if a plausible chain of events was presented that could be illustrated to directly or indirectly lead to her actions in releasing the MV, by showing a persistent, recurring pattern of managerial neglect, delays, and nitpicking.

If they had just published a termination notice with nothing except the MV issue and anyone made noise, then they could easily just say, 'yeah Selen did X and that justifies termination, here are the rules'.
Then if Selen doesn't publish anything, people can argue all day long about whether the termination is justified but both parties can go on their way, nothing else happens.
If Selen publishes a long diatribe after termination, then she's the one being antagonistic and looking menhera, like she's desperately trying to make excuses to show how she was unfairly terminated, and Anycolor can dare her to sue them for it while sitting cool and denying everything. Well, that is, if her accusations are truly baseless.
Instead they were so scared shitless of the second possibility, of her making accusations of harassment against them first, that they decided to dump everything out first so they could cast it in a favorable light, which turned out to not be so favorable after all. One has to wonder what they are so terrified of.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941374
sex tape

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>>68941393
It was christmas eve, A holiday nobody in japan celebrates, Certainly didn't seem like any OTHER projects were hamstringed in the same ways, And how do you know she DIDN'T ask earlier?, And had it all figured out, Do you really buy that she only gave them a day's notice and didn't do ANY check ins with management beforehand?

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>>68941582
If anything it's a critical day for vtubers even if you're Japanese because of shit like cold chicken, and on a general level because of Christmas SCs. If you're a vtuber manager and you're incommunicado around Christmas and Christmas Eve that's just pure negligence.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941451
Somebody translate this and post it on Japanese forum

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941393
>It was new year's eve, ffs
??? who gives a fuck? It's not a holiday in japan
bro they left her on read for 24+ hours it's just fucking stupid. It's your literal fucking job to work with your talent. She's fucking working on christmas eve why the fuck are you not?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941451
Yeah, NijiEN PR team was opening with a 20 hand in blackjack and hitting every time

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941582
>And how do you know she DIDN'T ask earlier?
The receipts milord. Now where is yours?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941451
It really is fucking crazy. both termination notice and especially nijiEN stream felt like an answer to accusations selen posted when she literally didn't.
Like they went full damage control over literally NOTHING. Nothing was happening.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68942080
We will control the bleeding from the stab wound by twisting the knife

[Anonymous No.]

>>68942080
They responsed to Selen's accusations that they said Selen accussed them of that they themselves public in order to damage control the damage that was caused by their own statements

[Anonymous No.]

>>68940935
hey we've all been there before, there's a big hole in my door from when i swung an axe at it after losing a game of csgo. i am completely mentally healthy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
So why would Kurosanjo go nuclear now? Was it because Doki reclaimed Dragoon?

>>68929620
If you want to see legal shitposting, look up the lawsuit from the right wing bimbo who got fired from Star Wars for going full retard one to many times and now has Elon Musk funding her lawsuit against Disney because she's got no career.

Her lawyer wrote the opening paragraph of the lawsuit in Star Wars opening scroll text style.

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>>68941451
Usually if a company responds in an insane way like this, it's because there's significant smoke to indicate an awful fire.

Even if you went with the approach of 'Selen is menhara and can't be trusted', all management had to do was quietly fire her and let her self-immolate. Instead they're acting scared and dragging talent into the fight, and why? The only reason could be that either her receipts are so bad as to be irrefutable, or that it was someone higher up in the company directly harassing her.

[Anonymous No.]

OH NO NO NO HOLOBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

[Anonymous No.]

>>68926214
oh cool IRyS almost at 1M

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941451
Every time, they keep referring back to the MV as a "gotcha" moment, and every time they reveal more info that no one else has brought up that just makes themselves look worse. They're absolutely shitting themselves over whatever evidence she has collected and think constantly doubling down over "but muh technicality" will save them and make her look less credible

[Anonymous No.]

>>68942535
okay but a single nousagi IS actually negligible

[Anonymous No.]

good morning anons, newfag 427 here, just woke up after falling asleep a couple hours after the Riku video, have I missed anything?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922825
I'm sure you can find other shit to make videos about, kyoh, or are you that lazy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68939196
>any color as long as it is black
kek this needs to be anycolor’s slogan from now on

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933553
Yes I managed to present it as evidence against my boss for trying to avoid paying severance pay

[Anonymous No.]

>>68934034
How does that even work? Is that even called "consent" when it's one person?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943259
Yes. You are one of the parties in the conversation. You consent.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943259
one person consented to being recorded. no consent is when a third party records a conversation and none of the participants of the conversation know it's being recorded, that's still illegal. like a boss can't set up a voice recorder in a room to record their employees without informing the employees that there are recording devices in the office

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943340
Does that imply there's a zero person consent? Like somehow you can record someone without your own consent?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943418
>>68943417
Oh that actually answers my question. I'm a dumdum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941982
Surely that was the first management saw of that project lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943457
nah it's good, consent is usually thought of as a two person thing so if you haven't had to think about it in this way before it does sound a little weird

[Anonymous No.]

>>68941982
>cover video check
>audio is ok to me
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68933553
Yes, if my coworkers and/or management are actively fucking me over. Present progressive tense. The moment it starts happening, I start documenting. Otherwise, you'll just be the "bad apple" without any evidence to back anything up, because corpo can spin shit any way they want.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943418
zero party consent would be like wiretapping or bugging. illegal unless the government is doing it.

[Anonymous No.]

The three revealed themselves and two others as the bullies by saying something when they should have just shut the fuck up, and let it blow over.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943834
People always think about it in terms of legal protection but as a online content creator there is no reason besides disk space limitations to not record every conversation you have in a work-related context. It's a hell of a lot better than manually taking notes, especially now that automatic audio transcription is so good so you can just dump any conversation into an app and ctrl-f to figure out exactly what you discussed six months earlier.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68943533
Actually it likely was. Nobody in Niji ever talks about their managers helping out with mvs or anything like that. Managers exist solely to ensure the paperwork is done properly and they have full permission from the upper management to post the video.
I don't think they do frequent check ins on how the MV is going or anything like that. It's very likely that was the first time he had seen it and I will also note that nowhere in any of Dokis statements has she denied only giving a days notice in-between asking for approval and posting the cover.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68944278
Not to mention, her manager is likely the tardwranger person, and the perms guy is another dude. It's just unprofessional to expect things to be done especially near holidays.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68944429
>just unprofessional to expect things to be done especially near holidays.
??????????????????????
is this a joke post?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68922346
>"We'll have to make it public"

This proves Elira was right to be concerned about her own personal information being exposed if the court document is going to be made public

[Anonymous No.]

>>68944278
> Let me just say that around August Selen found thirteen artists to draw for her MV (I did post about it), and we immediately sent emails to sign NDAs with the company. At the end I only got the official contract and I still haven't received the email that asked for where the money should be paid, and even though my communications with Selen didn't go smoothly at the end she gave me the money. How are you still criticising Selen for not giving money to the creators? Most of the time the artists will draw only after the company has signed the contract, but everyone has finished drawing, Selen has left, and there are still a few artists who haven't seen their contracts. Whose problem is that?:)

Someone had to approve and send the NDAs. Management knew about the project at least as early as August.