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What do you think "being harassed by other affiliated livers" means here? You can interpret this in a lot of ways. Was she interpreting people contacting her over her rule violations as harassment? If so then her claims are complete bullshit

>> No.68774946

Seethe forever tranny, your corp is dying

>> No.68774959
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68774959

>>68774889

>> No.68775236

>>68774889
>What do you think "being harassed by other affiliated livers due to mismanagement" means here?
Fix'd.

>>68774946
>>68774959
Answer the question.

>> No.68775646
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68775646

>>68774889
Considering how retarded NijiEN management is I can imagine
>call Selen
>she slams the phone
>tell all your 30+ other talent to start blowing up her phone
>start harassing the 30+ other talent to call her daily

>> No.68775799

>>68774889
Who tf made this termination notice and tought yeah 'it's a good idea if we confirm there's bullying on our corp' and their PR & HR dept should get terminated also they can't do a single good thing for niji en

>> No.68775813

>>68774889
What it sounds to me is that she'd gotten harassed by other livers and management didn't do anything about it. I doubt it was specifically about other livers harassing her about the MV debacle. That's scraping the bottom of the barrel for some way to flip the script.

>> No.68775918

>>68774889
it means sink the yatch

>> No.68775921

>>68774889
She didn't claim anything. We don't really have any kind of concrete statement from Selen/Doki on anything beyond "I've lawyered up".
The funny part of the situation is that there's no "he said she said" here. It's all NijiEN's statements that blew up.

>> No.68775983

>NDF OP
>Retarded schizophrenia all over the post
top kek

>> No.68776064
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>>68775799
>>68775813
Why does everyone say the letter "confirms" bullying/harassment when the very next page says they don't believe any such thing took place

>> No.68776075

>>68775813
>What it sounds to me is that she'd gotten harassed by other livers and management didn't do anything about it
Not OP, but I read it the other way around, "due to mismanagement" might have resulted in something like >>68775646 where the talent was put in a situation where they had to harass Selen. If it was active harassments where they specifically try to make her life worse it wouldn't be "due to mismanagement" but more like "despite managements best efforts" or "due to management's inactivity.

>> No.68776211

>>68776064
This doesn't deny bullying, it denies anything "unjust" was done to Selen.

>> No.68776234

>>68776211
Ok so you're just retarded, got it.

>> No.68776294

>>68776064
Because Nijisanji's reputation is that low.

>> No.68776317

>>68774889
To be quite frank, livers shouldn't be contacting each other about rules violations unless they're explicitly open to it. Otherwise that should go through management. They're peers, not authorities to each other.
So even in that interpretation management was failing.

>> No.68776431

>>68776294
What's with the canned response? Are you ESL? Is that why your reading comprehension is so shit? The claims people are making about a publicly visible piece of text with 25 million views are astounding. People just underline random words and draw conclusions utterly divorced from the text.

>> No.68776433

>>68774889
Holy NIJISEETHE
It's been days watching you making the same thread over and over lmao

>> No.68776448

>>68774889
I know english can be hard, especially when it's a document written up by esl's, but it's clearly regarding longstanding situations.
Even if it wasn't they outright admit to ambulance chasing. They already admitted to one count of harassment because they're numpties, fuck knows how bad the stuff they chose to keep to themselves because of self awareness is.

>> No.68776471

>>68776064
Initially we said they 'confirmed the allegations of bullying'. And then a game of telephone happened and we get 'confirmed bullying'.

Or if we want to go with a more canned response: ESLfags.

>> No.68776506

I'm not taking sides since it's a he said she said kind of situation, but I deem it highly unprofessional to air out internal affairs like this.
>but transparancy good if not you get vague stuff like hololive!!!
yes thats more professional

>> No.68776583

>>68775921
exactly, the only one talking about bullying in public was Nijisanji, Doki never did before they made that termination note that made Niji look horrible.

>> No.68776675

>>68776064
Did they hire a third party company to investigate the claims? No? Then their claims are worthless as it's in their best interest to deny any claims of toxic environment.
Would be pretty funny if a Bloomberg article came up exposing kurosanji dirty like it happened to Blizzard.

>> No.68776724

>>68776506
It's possible to both be relatively transparent and not write something like a 15 year old RP forum admin trying to come up with reasons to ban someone for telling him his spelling sucks.

>> No.68776742

>>68776675
The question wasn't "is the text credible?" It was "how are people saying the text confirms the bullying claims when it explicitly denies them."

>> No.68776750

>>68776234
Imagine saying this when you can't parse super dumbed down legalese.

>> No.68776771

>>68776448
>Even if it wasn't they outright admit to ambulance chasing
No they don't. This was clearly after she was already out of the hospital. She only stayed there for a single day. Bitch was riding Nocturnal's dick in the next.

>> No.68776799
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68776799

How many nijisisters does it take to make a talent attempting suicide a good thing?

>> No.68776812

>>68776750
>n-no you!
Your argument is that the company issued a public statement implying they thought bullying was just. Is that correct?

>> No.68776816

>>68776506
The transparency is being used as a weapon, they keep everything hushush normally then throw all this dirty laundry out while firimg someone. It's obviously just an attempt to defame.

>> No.68776868

>>68774889
Why would other livers care that much about her "violating activity rules" ?

>> No.68776882

>>68776771
5 days according to Twitter. She tried to off herself on the 26th right? Or was it the 25th?

>> No.68776905

>>68776799
>noooo they temporarily took down my video because they think permissions are lacking
>instead of showing them that i have all the permissions or getting the ones i lack i will now proceed to attempt (and fail because i am a woman) to kill myself

>> No.68776912

>>68776868
Because she was ghosting management themselves. People also tried to 'guide' Zaion.

>> No.68776932

>>68776742
>Selen never ever talked about bullying before
>Kurosanji says in their termination note that they knew Selen believed she was being bullied and did nothing
Their first mistake was disclosing that, awful PR. As I said, once they were made aware of that they did nothing, no one will believe them when they're willing to shame former talents in public like that.

>> No.68776936

>>68776799
>suicide a good thing
We haven't gotten there yet, give it a month.

>> No.68776938

>>68776812
No, my argument is, as I told you before, that the company didn't deny bullying, they denied doing anything "unjust" to Selen. If whatever ESL lawyer knew anything about western litigation, he'd have known to include "bullying" in that sentence.
And if you were anything but a retarded basement dweller and had a little real world experience, you'd know this too.

>> No.68777006

>>68776938
These are some incredible mental gymnastics. Bravo bro

>> No.68777048

>>68774889
Is it so hard to comprehend that Selen threw a massive bitchfit AND Nijisanji handled it like shit?

>> No.68777098

>>68776506
>im not taking sides
shit take, you should take sides, specially when both parties have history on their behavior.
Nijisanji here is being extremely honest at least compared to other times but that honesty is what made the situation worse
>Termination when Selen wanted to go on neutral terms
>Selen probably asked for money that they technically own her, as indicated by the artists that didn't get paid in time + some money just to be safe because no job
>Made a comically biblical termination, to the point that it seems you are filling words for an essay.
>Brings out situations that not even Selen herself revealed
>All of this could be avoided in a million different BETTER ways, yet they decide to do it in the worst way, at the worst time (pomu graduated, Kyo will graduate, history of talents going to another group and saying how shit they are, zaion, etc)
This is reputational damage is irreparable, it will always be remember in the company history no matter if they recover or not.
If there's not a queue for graduations, all nijien either were bullies and are afraid that they will not get work else were or they all retards that don't know better and will still get blamed as if they are the culprits.

>> No.68777116

>>68774889
Seethe more chink

>> No.68777196

>>68777098
>you SHOULD take sides
Kill yourself communist faggot

>> No.68777246

>>68777098
retard

>> No.68777268

>>68774889
I don't care. This is old fucking news. Where's the next NijiEN graduation/termination?

>> No.68777319

Why nijifags try to gaslight everyone to think that Selen/Dokibird do something wrong? They even human beings?

>> No.68777328

>>68776234
One retarded here - you.
Try ask yourself why all legal stuff have both strict rules and means to avoid and misinterpret them for own good.

>> No.68777339

>>68777006
The boot tastes that good that you're willingly parading your idiocy, huh faggot?

>> No.68777346

>>68776064
It's funny that they say "firmly believes" instead of making a categorical denial. Almost like they didn't actually bother looking into it, so they can't risk totally denying it.

>> No.68777359

>>68777196
>>68777246
>There's enough evidence to form your own conclusions
>"NOOOOO WE DON'T KNOW YET, NIJISANJI COULD STILL BE ON THE RIGHT"
hope they pay you guys well

>> No.68777407

>>68777319
Her only sin was doing that Tweet about telling Dragoons to dl the cover, somehow that's enough for them to treat her like a demon.

>> No.68777440

>>68776882
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/uid/PC/2287813609#S-match-history
She was playing APEX only a SINGLE day after the announcement that she was in the hospital, so she only stayed there for a single day.

>> No.68777514

>>68777319
Because Niji's own stupid actions means the only way to defend them is to totally flip the script.

>> No.68777568

>>68774889
what's with the actual Nijinfiltrators trying to spin whatever sort of narrative they can? do you even know that the best strategy would be to not say anything at all and let it dissipate like any of the other recent happenings? if anything i'm starting to think your bosses actually are afraid of something

>> No.68777617

>>68777359
Nijisanji barely pays anyone

>> No.68777648

>>68777440
Why not

>> No.68777693

I'm impressed by the fact that people would defend Niji over the talents. Either they work for Niji or they have low 90 of IQ

>> No.68777694
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68777694

>>68777617
Selen having 200k to blow on random shit disproves this.

>> No.68777716

>>68777440
Unless the page is breaking or something this doesn't go back that far. 1 month 3 days ago. Are you seeing something different?

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>>68776675
>the nijiEN lactation rooms keep getting all the elira milk stolen

>> No.68777741

>>68774889
dumb nijinigger baiting attempt
>he doesn't know about the clique
retard honestly

>> No.68777771

>>68776771
They don't keep you in hospital until you're fully healed from a menhera episode you utter numpty. They keep you until you're past the point of spontaneously necking yourself and have someone at home to watch over you, then shuffle your ass out the door as fast as possible because publicly funded hospitals have space shortages.
The document even references that every time it noted trying to contact selen using her carer as their messenger.

>> No.68777816

>>68777694
Isn't it the other way around? It proves that they don't pay shit because selen has to do it for them

>> No.68777966

>>68777693
Both

>> No.68778026

live on discord vc cum tribute

>> No.68778134
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68778134

>>68776905
You dishonest shitstain.

>> No.68778293

>>68777693
Third option: trolls and dramabaiters

>> No.68778335
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>>68777771
It looks like she was in the hospital on the 25th-26th, so 5-6 days. The Apex history that dude linked shows that she was playing Apex January 8th. Which means it doesn't have her entire history because she claimed she was playing Apex on the 2nd. Dunno how the site works, but apparently it doesn't catch everything.

>> No.68778390

>>68778335 (me)
Sorry, 25th or 26th through the 31st. Messed that up.

>> No.68778431

>>68774889
>NOOOOOOOOO THE LIVER HAS TO SAY THE REASON WHY WE PRIVATED HER VIDEO, DESPITE WE NEVER SAY THE REASON WHY WE TERMINATE OUR LIVERS EVER
No one cares hypocrite Nijiscum

>> No.68778440

>>68777816
Selen EARNED 200k while being in Nijisanji and wasted it on random unprofitable shit.

>> No.68778529

>>68777098
Im not taking sides because honestly i dont care enough to jump into it considering i dont watch selen or any other nijien. I commented on what ive seen, which is the official statement (which i find to be childish). Im not taking sides when im uninformed.

>> No.68778550

>>68777693
Nijisisters are mentally ill fujos, please understand.

>> No.68778601
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68778601

>>68778550
This but Selen. She's also a furfagbrony.

>> No.68778829

Why are you trying to blame everything on selen anon? Is that hard to accept that Niji took the L? I'm asking unironically

>> No.68778833

>>68774889
>What do you think "being harassed by other affiliated livers" means here?

It means that she was being harassed by other affiliated livers. Are you illiterate?

>Was she interpreting people contacting her over her rule violations as harassment?

Why is that the conclusion you come to? Why would other livers be contacting her about management stuff instead of management? Why would other livers have access to documents that staff should? Are you actually retarded?

>> No.68778972

>>68774889
Nijisisters were bad before this drama, but Doki has absolutely mindbroken them. Neck yourself, unironically.

>> No.68778988

>>68778601
Why can't I find this profile in any of the old twitter archives?

>> No.68778999

>>68778833
Because they said it was "due to mismanagement" (I forgot to put this in my post, sorry).

>> No.68779000

>>68778988
Because it doesn't exist

>> No.68779046

>>68778601
Tell me more about how you are an expert on this mental condition. Then tell me how all autists are nonverbal drooling retards. It will have the same effect.

>> No.68779067

>>68778988
Some nijifaggot used inspect element.

>> No.68779161

>>68778988
>>68779000
Even if it does exist I'm not sure what it's supposed to mean. It's not like BPD is sociopathy or psychopathy, they're generally more retarded than other people in their IQ bracket because they focus on whats in front of them instead of thinking ahead. They're impulsive, not cunning.

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>>68774889

>> No.68779309

>>68778988
Which archive?
>>68779067
Prove the screenshot is fake then. Looks just as legit as the Aster leak to me.

>> No.68779318

>>68774889
I really wonder if this was written by a middle schooler, ESL, or or they intentionally meant to imply bullying is a natural consequence of breaking rules.

>> No.68779403

>>68779309
>n-no you prove it
kek fag, who hurt you?

>> No.68779427

>>68779309
Prove it's real. Post an archive. Surely you can do that right?

>> No.68779531

>>68779403
>>68779427
It's real until proven fake. It would be very hard to fake it in that way. Aster leak also looks similar.

>> No.68779565
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>>68779161
It means nothing more than a cheap opportunity for NDF to sow doubt. Because BPD is a meme mental illness, everyone has an opinion on it as smugly informed on it as they are of the existence of God. It is a remarkably simple cheap trick that preys directly to /vt/'s insecurities about wahmen.

>> No.68779630

>>68776064
the letter confirms selen reported harassment to management, not that harassment took place

>> No.68779646

>>68779531
>It's real until proven fake
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=burden+of+proof

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68779708

>>68775646
>Slams phone
>Simpsons
Where did the time go

>> No.68779712

>>68778134
okay? She's literally Mikeneko of NijiEN. I'll wait for the confirmation of any other liver.

>> No.68779735

>>68777693
People on here will defend whatever position gives them more replies.

>> No.68779777

>>68779646
Which claim I'm making here? I simply posted an image. It's on you to disprove since you're the one who's claiming it's fake.

>> No.68779793

>>68779531
What about it makes it hard to fake? It's just on a website. So unlike the Aster thing you can't just inspect element and change things. I have been wondering what's with the balloons though.

>> No.68779868

>>68778440
It’s almost as though Anycolor was supposed to pay the portion that they agreed to pay the people she commissioned instead of ignoring them and leaving her to pick up the tab.

>> No.68779873

>>68779793
Someone took that screenshot with a phone overlay meant to celebrate to celebrate something, probably her birthday.

>> No.68779942

>>68774889
From what it seems like
>Selen was going outside the norm to do stuff because "special"
>Niji management said no, finally had enough and slapped her down
>Other members gave her a good teasing about it because Selen always talks shit to them
>Selen decides to "off herself" and some how fails
>This somehow becomes all Niji's fault

I don't know, this is almost like if a woman walks into work an hour late multiple times and the boss finally writes her up. Some coworkers comment it's about time. The woman then goes home and tries to off herself. Do you really blame the company, boss, and coworkers?

>> No.68780121

>>68779777
So no archive then. Where did this image come from? You don't know do you? I can completely believe youre so retarded all it took to convice you was a twitter screenshot. Thanks for your concession. The Aster drama had Google docs with creation and editing dates that line up with the story. You have a screenshot some retarded could have created with inspect element. Prove it's real.

>> No.68780171

>>68779712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=xug7CIZ-ppc

Remember when everyone thought HololiveJP's reactions to Mikeneko's termination was "off" and unexpectedly cold? We know better know don't we. Mow look at all the people who vouched on Selen's behalf. The contrast is striking enough that the comparison can be eqsilydismissed, I think.

>> No.68780207

>>68778440
She didn't waste it. She tried organizing several events throughout the year that got initial approval only for management to kill them at the last possible moment. Add on top of this all the artists she had to pay out of pocket because Nijisanji would be months late on payments. This wasn't 200k wasted on nothing. It was 200k spent trying to give back to a community she loved, and they almost killed her for it. Now go fuck yourself.

>> No.68780251

>>68779873
Ah, so a phone thing instead of a Twitter thing. Ok then.

>> No.68780397

>>68779309
>Which archive?
None of them. I've been looking through old twitter archives (from the time before they lost API access, but that shouldn't matter for tweets and profiles that old) and I cannot find it.

>> No.68780503

>>68774889
Enna: Uh, Selen, I think you need to chill about the music video being privated for now
Selen: OMG STOP HARASSING MEEEEE
*tries to an hero*
*rope breaks because too heavy*
*sprains ankle from the fall and has to go to hospital*
Mumei: Sorry everyone, this is a bit of an embarrassing situation...

>> No.68780525

>>68780397
N-nijisisters what do we say now!?!?

>> No.68780580

>>68774889
fuck kurosanji

>> No.68780640

>>68780171
you're wasting time replying to a bootlicker

>> No.68780685

>>68780121
>>68780397
I have been seeing people say Selen has BPD for a long time, so it's not like it's something people made up with no basis. Here's a post from 2021 with a cropped screenshot of what appears to be her profile as well: >>/vt/thread/6740058#p6744799 The phone overlay is a strong argument for it being real. Idgaf about trying to search for an archive of it.

>> No.68780778

>>68777319
Selen did as is still doing something wrong.
Assume this scenario: someone bullied you, to the point of trying to kill yourself. You say you'll not be silenced. What is your next step?
1- Say exactly what they did;
2- Say exactly who did it, not "management" or "livers", but their names;
3- Say nothing about who or what they did and let all other people that have nothing to do with it get blamed;
>but she said she hate bullies and we should be adults and not bully back
So she chose the option that manages to create the biggest number of haters?
Unless LITERALLY every single person in the company knew of the bulling, or was part of it, and did nothing. She's perpetuating the cycle.
Just say X raped her and make Niji explode in one move, then let the people that have nothing to do with that move on.

>> No.68780798

>>68779942
She was literally doing managements job for them and they got ego bruised. A better analogy would be the coworker who arrives an hour early and takes on the managerial role because the department manager is too busy sleeping in the back, then gets angry when his authority is being usurped by some "go-getter." This whole situation reeks of Niji management going on a power trip.

>> No.68780915

>>68780685
>that's one step off from schizophrenia

The absolute state of mental health awareness. Is it any wonder people as retarded and as self-confident as Nijiniggers are circling it like vultures?

>> No.68781029

>>68776064
>they don't believe any such thing took place
>we've investigated ourselves and found no wrong doing
do you really believe?

>> No.68781052

>>68780685
I'll admit this is convincing that the Twitter Pic is real. Still shows how retarded the average nijisister is.
>that's one step from schizophrenia

>> No.68781099

>>68780778
Seems like you have severe autism or you're a sociopath

>> No.68781117

>>68780915
They're not completely wrong, BPD with psychosis does exist

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68781144

>>68779708
Faded into myth and legend

>> No.68781152

>>68780778
If the lawyers agreed naming names was a bad idea, then it’s a bad idea.

>> No.68781179

>>68780778
It's remarkable how easily NDF will hardwave LEGAL FUCKING COUNSEL in order their rrats to have any traction. I know you learn from dadduly Riku when it comes to legal incompetence, but it does you no favours, sweaty.

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68781202

>>68774889
>makes up argument in head
>defeats own made up argument
typical Nijeets

>> No.68781233

>118 posts
>48 IPs
Embarrassing

>> No.68781250

>>68781117
Notice the word WITH you absolute moron. Like how you have Monkey pox with AIDS, it doesnt mean they're necessarily related.

>> No.68781253

>>68780915
BPD has a lot of symptoms that are similar to schizophrenia, namely paranoia.

>> No.68781273

>>68776932
NDF can't refute this.

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68781292

>>68774889

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68781294

>>68778440
It's not "unprofitable shit," it's reinvesting into your channel to drive growth, which would have been VERY profitable if Niji management wasn't constantly shutting her down after the money has been spent. This is exactly the kind of shit the agency SHOULD be paying for or at least subsidizing, if they had even the slightest clue as to why Selen was their top female earner. That this concept is totally foreign to EN management is reason on it's own to fire them all, and that's before their absolutely retarded attempts at PR.

>> No.68781296

>>68780798
>doing a job your not paid or titled to do
I would say that is on the dumbass doing it.

>> No.68781331

>>68781253
The Psyc 101 sister is here chat! Listen up!

>> No.68781342

>>68781117
>what is comorbidity
And every person with ADHD should be assumed autistic.

>> No.68781423

I can't believe someone who laughs every 5 seconds is not normal.

>> No.68781504

>>68781294
>which would have been VERY profitable if Niji management wasn't constantly shutting her down after the money has been spent
Tbf it's not like they lost money on it

>> No.68781507

>>68780685
Yes, but can you find it in an actual archive and not some fucking screenshot?
I'm not even arguing that it's fake, I just want to actually find the source of this shit due to how often fake screenshots make the rounds here.

>> No.68781530

>>68774889

It confirms that NijiKuro broke Canadian Labor Laws. She reported workplace harassment and they fired her over it.

>> No.68781631

>>68781504
And Blumhouse never lost money on a movie

>> No.68781687

btw, i'm on Latam groups and strangely so, there's at least 2 guys hardcore blaming Selen in all v-tuber groups they're in. Like, legit /vt/ drama posters trying to blame everything in Selen

>> No.68781753

>>68781504
No shit, if you offload 100% of expenses onto the talents, but then the question becomes "what the fuck does management even do?"

>> No.68781824

>>68781687
All the nijisisters are LatAm or SEA. Why are you little brown fuckers like this?

>> No.68781974

>>68780685
Nice. Phone overlays don't add strength unless the only option is image editing, and with websites shopping is the worst option if you're going to fake something. The corroboration that's clearly a different image from a time with no drama works for it though.

>> No.68782006

>>68781294
Technically, they did agree to subsidize it, hence the artists complaining that Anycolor never paid them and Selen had to cover their share out of pocket.

>> No.68782050

>>68781687
Based Latin bulls. Westrannies are emotional and can't listen to reason.

>> No.68782125

>>68782050
>t. chicANO

>> No.68782127
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68782127

>Selen spends $200K
>Didnt turn a profit
Maybe that's why management kept saying NO to her "projects". Welcome to buisness 101.

>> No.68782511

>>68782127
>She didn't turn a profit after 98% of her gross revenue was skimmed off the top
Shocker.

>> No.68782521

>>68782127
>management refuses to pay their share of the bill
>why isn’t it profitable for the person who’s covering the difference?

>> No.68782528

>>68776064
No one within the company reported bullying or bullying allegations until this termination letter reported it. They could have chosen to not include it. Why did they report it themselves?

>> No.68782555

>>68782127
>Burden all project expenses onto the talents
>refuse to review talent projects until launch day
>cancel projects on launch day due to regulations you made up on the spot

Yeah no shit it's unprofitable with a business model like that you brown retard, don't you have a street to shit on?

>> No.68782611

>146 post
>56 IP
Nijifag.... you're not even getting paid....

>> No.68782726

>>68782511
>>68782521
>>68782555
>women being retarded with their own money is the company's fault

>> No.68782763

>>68776064
The meat of it is that she had enough grace not to name the parties publicly but niji confirms she went to them internally to say that it was other livers doing the bullying. So if you believe Selen then their statement confirms it was other talents

>> No.68782770

>>68782555
Apparently the JPs have run into issues with that rule before, but it’s still shitty of EN management to not inform them until the most inconvenient time (for the talent, that is. It’s extremely convenient for some staffer who wants to fuck with that talent).

>> No.68782772 [DELETED] 

Niji shouldn't have bet against the bipolar dragon staying quiet lol

>> No.68782859

>>68776064
It confirms who Doki reported to them as the ones doing the bullying since she never said it publicly.

>> No.68782865

>>68782726
>it’s the girls fault the company isn’t upholding its contractual obligations and paying people they agreed to pay

>> No.68782976

>>68782865
They don't pay for personal projects. This is missing context. It's some faggot troon artist who was salty about paying from AC themselves being low so they decided to work directly with the talent instead.

>> No.68783015

sounds like she was a cunt and tried to blackmail her employer, then when they called her bluff she used the ultimate woman trump card and fake sewerslided for sympathy. God I hope it blows up in her face eventually, that would be glorious.

>> No.68783021

>>68782772
But she did stay quite, they're the idiots that put their foot in their mouth.

>> No.68783176

>>68782976
>actually just lying
The whole controversy around that was Niji not paying the bill for their merch artists for months until the liver covered it instead.

>> No.68783484

>>68783176
>merch artists
I haven't heard of that at all. Source? Sounds very unlikely if it's official merch since AC foots all production costs themselves unless it's ordered by booth.

>> No.68783580

>>68774889
It is easy to explain, Selen is a much more trustworthy source than Nijisanji. I wouldnt trust Nijisanji if they said that the sun will rise in the morning. So by bringing up that Selen has reported bullying just to deny it later in the book of grudges (big mistake right here, you should have denied it in the sentence bringing it up or in the next sentence) they confirmed that Selen was bullied

>> No.68783627

NDF really is mad

>> No.68783644

>>68783176
So who's fault is that? Who actually entered into those contracts with those artists? Was the talent telling artists things were fine and paying them expecting the company to reimburse the talent? Unless I'm wrong, if you enter into a contract with a company and they don't pay, you take them to court. A lot of this doesn't make any sense. It seems like Selen tried to shortcut a lot of stuff and when it finally all caught up she copped out hard. Buisness sucks but there are a ton of rules in place to prevent fraud.

>> No.68783718

Again, nobody believes you Nijifag

>> No.68783826

>>68783644
This is clearly missing a lot of context and the tranny artists don't want to explain it further because they're trying to virtue siginal.

>> No.68783957

>>68776234
You retard. That doesn't deny bullying happened.
That statement means "nothing happened that we can be sued over"
You can't sue someone for being a workplace bully.

>> No.68783959

>>68783644
If the person under contract believes a party is supposed to be paying them, then that means the contract says they’re supposed to be paying the contractor. If Anycolor didn’t intend to pay, they shouldn’t agree to contracts that say precisely that.

>> No.68784088

>>68783957
Workplace harassment is illegal but you're technically right if you use the tranny definition of bullying.

>> No.68784133

Damn did niji hire a second shill, or did they add a dollar the the existing shill's daily wage?

>> No.68784146

>>68776064
>we and the other Livers under our affiliation have not engaged in unjust practices towards selen
*sigh*

>> No.68784318

>>68784133
They do it for free, is a mix between denying reality and somehow try to not lost against Hololive for some retarded reason.

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68784624

>zero proof of what Selen is claiming
>BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT CANCEL NIJI
I hate Westrannies so much. Die you emotional trannies. Amerimutt troon cancel culture must be stopped. This just makes Westeners look like clowns in the eyes of the Japs.

>> No.68785149
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>>68774889
I take that to mean "management did not come and punish the involved people for harassing her." I also get the impression that the official, non-talent nijiEN "management" had been chopped down to like, 1-2 people who weren't paid enough for this shit hence didn't want to do the work of ten people (big surprise), and were in over their heads by a mile and didn't know what to do about Selen's reports.

I mean, I would have just fucking suspended the ones she was reporting were causing problems just as a bare minimum start to get people to shape up and act like professionals ... how hard can that fucking be? But maybe, EN management in Riku's un-wisdom didn't actually have the power to just do this at will, not without nijiJP headquarters approval because it might hurt the feelings/income of their pwecioush wuxiems, and hence the problems just fell into a black hole and couldn't be fixed.

I would think Selen would have a fairly strong case, that basically this is a retaliatory firing for her threatening to reveal her bully problems to the public. Which, is completely fucking illegal by law where Selen is. It's Niji's internal rules vs actual laws at stake here and the state would win if Selen can get Niji into a leaf court.

>> No.68785279

>>68777440
the oldest match history this shows is 33~34 days ago aka january 8~9

>> No.68785645

>>68777440
>>68777440
Nijifag, you realize people will actually check the link and see you're full of shit, right?

>> No.68785742

>>68777440
You thought you could put this link and lie?
there's no record of her playing season 19 (oct2023 till feb2024) in december
the earliest was January 3rd for 1hour
https://apexlegendsstatus.com/profile/uid/PC/2287813609#S-advanced-stats
just click "by day"

>> No.68785792

>>68785742
kek nijifags take another L

>> No.68786201

>>68784624
No one was replying to your schizobabble so I just wanted to give you a (You) because I felt bad for you.

>> No.68786360

Anycolor can still salvage this somehow, right?

>> No.68786507

>>68786360
Yes, first they need to fire all their shill because they fucking suck

>> No.68786658

>Deleted

>> No.68786715

>>68786360
any attempt to publicly clarify things will probably backfire on them. best they can do probably is do whatever they can to keep their remaining livers happy and eventually viewers will be able to tell that things have turned around.

>> No.68786814
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68786814

>>68786658
Here, for the next time he does it

>> No.68787635

>>68774889
holy shit this troll or NDF is on major cope. Defending a black company is disgusting

>> No.68787720

>>68777098
NIJISANJI AND HONEST GAHAHAHAHA SHUT THE FUCK UP LOL

>> No.68787788

>>68776799
The company didn't make her take those pills.

>> No.68788035

>>68777732
I'm going to join Nijisanji now.

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