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Pomu and Miori

>> No.68613079

me

>> No.68613084

>>68613038
What in Jakarta is this thread

>> No.68613096

>>68613038
what does that mean? are you freaks starting to learn witchcraft now?

>> No.68613147

>>68613096
>starting

>> No.68613328

Pomu not getting in

>> No.68613341
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>>68613038
Grimmi will be there. I believe it

>> No.68613775

>>68613038
Those two are a great start. I want a Gura nepo as well, but I don't think she has friends.

>> No.68614043

>>68613038
>scry
What?

>> No.68614045

>>68613038
You Pomu beggars are fucking obnoxious.

>> No.68614209

>>68613038
It's males (me) .... (I'm a rapist)

>> No.68614354

>>68614209
No, that's the other company.

>> No.68614430

>>68613038
Let's look at history for a moment:

Amelia, and gura were mid level twitch streamers probably with high humility (otherwise nyanners would have been holo) who were likely aquired for a bargain due to being silly informal meme lords.
Based on this data I would guess the next Holo will likely be from a alt tech streaming platform (since 2020 twitch has a higher prestige, and thus cost) most likely from Dlive, or bitchute if I had to guess.
Probably a VRchat user, but not an actual experienced vtuber.
That is simply a theory.

>> No.68614875

If she applies and gets in fair enough but honestly fuck Pomu, she can sleep in the bed that she made for herself with all that Nijisanji bootlicking and stockholming. Fucking Selen deserves to be in Holo over her (not that I think she would want to).

>> No.68615013

>>68613341
>>68614875
What are their rates (%profit) and how viral is their work vs how hard they work?

>> No.68615114

>>68614043
Its basically pot of greed but you don't draw the cards

>> No.68615351

>>68613038
>Selen/Dokibird

Yes, I know she just redebuted as an indie, but there's clearly interest in her from the Holo side. Not just from Mumei, but also from Dmitri himself. The real question is if Selen/Doki is interested in idol expectations

>Pomu

I know Pomu always had idol aspirations, but the reason why Pomu wanted to get into Nijisanji specifically was because she was a Niji fan. This is a case where she is a good fit for Holo, but I suspect she herself is not that interested in Holo. I do think she might either go for vshojo, or follow the indie path.

I was going to suggest Beryl, but she already went to Phase.

>> No.68615441

>>68613775
Bijou has a circle of small indies she could nepo from. I wonder who out of the lot are the most talented though.

>> No.68615583

>>68614875
>stockholming
But she graduated of her own volition

>> No.68615599

>>68615441
talent doesn't matter for holo, they ire based on how well the person can integrate into a cohesive unit and play off of the other people in her gen

>> No.68615649

Holo has 3 solid options:

Hire someone with viral magic

Hire a look-a-like for a famous relevant person

Hire a hard worker who busts as for cheap

>> No.68615661

>>68613038
>Nepohiring
>Hololive
You didnt get the memo didnt you?

>> No.68615663

>>68615013
My take is Grimmi is talented but extremely poorly managed where she is now. She did a lot better on her own. She would absolutely be a top earner at cover based on her skill set. Voice over, acting, long zatsu that does well for her numbers. Horror focus. She's very nice to other girls and had a good reputation in the indie scene.

>> No.68615721

I like them picking up diamonds in the rough rather than corpses from dying corpos.

>> No.68615835

>>68613038
Has Hololive EVER poached from a company like Nijisanji? Because I don't think they're willing to do that.

>> No.68615900

>>68615721
What are the most interesting diamonds in the rough at the moment? Also, Doki could easily be thought of as a corpse, but I could see her fast becoming a diamond again.

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>>68615835
>he doesn't know

>> No.68616001

Would people be okay with Milky queen knowing she publicly lusts for connor?

>> No.68616279

>>68615900
https://twitter.com/NonomiyaMikan

>knows how to roleplay scenes from her own script
>familiar with JP culture
>loves minecraft
>makes literal jewelry
>shops thrifty (not very high maintenance)
>achieves her goal herself with nobody to hold her hand
>started at the same time by the same rigging artist as >>68613341

Only problem is these diamonds in the rough treasure the rough, and don't apply to be willingly sold short.

Honestly I think Holo might get in the way of the incredible journey life has instore for her.

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>>68615835
Just so you know, Fuwamoco's PL was NOT indie. They were VERY corpo. Small corpo, but still corpo.

>> No.68616448

>>68615663
She's graduating though. She said she's going to focus on her job and she'll only be releasing offline content after her graduation date.

>> No.68616533

>>68616448
Rrat is that she is have second thoughts because she applied to niji

>> No.68616556

>>68615967
>>68616363
It isn't poaching if they applied to the auditions.

>> No.68616558

>>68616363
Were they poached or were they picked up after being let go?

>> No.68616584

>>68616533
Doesn't Nijisanji not allow people to work with their pl?
Grimmi said she's still releasing content on it after.

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>>68616533
>because she applied to niji
She didn't (see bottom tweet)

>> No.68616653

It'll be another male gen.

>> No.68616748

>>68616630
kek
If she's a good gamer maybe she can get into VSPO EN

>> No.68616841

>>68616630
Thanks for the clarification. But I can see why a story like Selen/Doki's might give her cold feet about going the corpo path.

>>68616558
The latter, but that's what poached usually means. What, you think they're just going to outright "take" a talent from another company?

>> No.68616919

>>68613038
If Vshojo goes full retard and hires Kyo.
Pomu is a lock for Hololive.
Remember this.

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>>68613038
I'm not really someone who normally thinks "Yagoo should do a certain thing due to current events" and I don't know Hololive's thought process and decision making goals, but if I was hypothetically in a position of Hololive to make a call or case-

I WOULD actually say there is a case to be made for picking up former Nijisanji talents and others this one time. There has been an absolute bounty of proven talent now avaliable for pick up. Not only would it allow Hololive to pick up huge segments of nijiniggers, but also others.

I would pitch to send an offer to Dokibird/Selen, Pomu, Zaion, etc. and even Pikamee/Henya in vshojo or others to do another Gen. Heck I would even go so far as to pick up Kizuna Ai VA Nozomi Kasuga and Akari from the old guard.

Normally it would probably suck to dilute the focus on talent from HoloX and Advent, but this is also picking up displaced fans from a competitor company that is having a complete falling out with a lot of people. And HoloX and Advent are now successful and stable enough not to be concerned about a new group.

Yes over expansion is an issue, but I would pitch it and see if it is pointed out it isn't feasible. I see a golden opportunity right now just like Nintendo has with movies to replace disney princesses.

>> No.68616992

>>68616841
well for legalitys sake, sure. You officially resign, then get rehired by a competitor.

But it wouldn't be 'poaching' if GGN girls were let go, and out of their own volition applied to hololive. Or even if they quit and applied to hololive.

>> No.68617033

>>68615351
>The real question is if Selen/Doki is interested in idol expectations
Selen was making efforts to learn how to sing and dance.
If Cover is willing to put up money for her projects, Doki would be happy to join Hololive.

The only wild cards are homocollabs, but if there is someone who can thread the needle for that, it would be Doki.

>> No.68617056

>>68613038
Pomu is going to start her own vtuber company, with blackjack and hookers and snake

>> No.68617103

>>68616926
I like Sayu, but she would be a charity case. She's got an untouchable negative clout aura, and I don't think Hololive's good reputation could fully cover that.

>> No.68617120

>>68616992
I guess the question then is if Polka and Luna were really poached. I won't be surprised if they actually auditioned, but Polka's gratitude to Yagoo make it sound like she was poached.

>> No.68617161

>>68616926
>>68617103
I honestly think she has unironic bpd and that would make her too unstable for Hololive.
She'd fit right in at Phase though.

>> No.68617308

>>68617033
Also considering that Hololive is trying to push the whole HoloZontal, getting Doki before VSPO can get her would be a big thing. One anon suggested Doki joining Holostars instead of being a Hololive member and, honestly, I think it would be a good move: Holostars being mixed and separate from the "pure" nature of the main Hololive would be good. Honestly, there's a lot of benefit to Doki joining Cover, especially since she has quite a lot of good company there.

>> No.68617646

>>68613038
>>68613084
speaking of...
If Mika doesn't end in ID4 i'll count it as a huge loss for Cover

>> No.68617710

>>68613328
She's already in

>> No.68617802

>>68617308
The genderbent vtuber was already tried with Yugo and it was a disaster.
Doki and Holo management should look at all the mistakes Bae, Mori, Ame and Kronii made with their Homo interactions and work off that.

>>68617646
Mika is 100% getting poached by Vshojo.

>> No.68617997

>>68617646
I'd bet my left nut that she's in Vshojo.

>> No.68618274

>paying hand over fist prices for a talent who was already in bed with over corpos
Seems like a bad idea, but that's none of my business.

>> No.68618278

As far as I know no 4view joined HoloEN and I don't think that will change so the most likely candidates are 3 views.

>> No.68618410

If Holo was going to poach any corpo Kson would be their best bet (year of the dragon, and all).

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>>68613038
My tiger will come back and bless our ears with a fauna asmr collab

>> No.68618685

>>68618410
>Kson would be their best bet
You are quite silly.

>> No.68618699

No Pomu and no Selen, that's 100%. If something Pomu is going to vshojo

>> No.68618760

>>68618410
Kson is happy where she is, she is no going back, even if Cover gives her 100% revenue share

>> No.68618765

>>68613775
The only Gura nepo left that could join is Munibug, who is too menhera, and wants to stay with her small dedicated group of paypigs.
People say Gen 2 was Ina's nepo-gen but honestly Gura already knew Mumei, Kronii and Fauna before they joined hololive.

>> No.68618851

>>68615351
For the love of God no for either of them. I don't care if people want them, the last thing Hololive needs to be is this big name recycler like Vshojo is and they gain much more by revealing potential indies and small corpos who never had a chance than redebuting people who everyone already knows how they'll act and what kind of content they'll make.

>> No.68619038

>>68618851
You say that, but they still signed Shiori And yes I know some will argue that Natsumi Moe was indie, but one of the OG en vtubers and an associate of Eilene is not exactly "small"

>> No.68619093

>>68618765
>making shit up

>> No.68619224

>>68615599
Basically if your rm has any history of causing drama you're out

>> No.68619390

>>68616363
I missed out on all the Akira porn during their activity and I'm so pissed

>> No.68619453

>>68619038
Shiori fits exactly the "never had a chance" category since she was never part of any of the big agencies. Even if at the end of the day Anycolor just stopped giving a fuck about NijiEN Pomu and Selen had infinitely more opportunities than 99.9% of vtubers out there, and not only that but reserving 2/5 slots of EN4 to Niji-alumni would insanely unfair to every single girl who wasted their time applying to HoloEN during the entirety of 2022 only to be ignore because they didn't have a fucking dick between their legs. Let Vshojo have them because they want to be the boring and safe retirement home while Hololive actually tries to put new names on the map.

>> No.68619556

>>68616926
>Doki
Makes a lot of sense. She's hot right now, but it's that exact reason I think Cover might not want to touch her. Especially if the possibility of pending litigation against a rival company exists. Probably better to just steer clear or at the very least wait for her to cool off/settle legal issues.
>Pomu
This makes the most sense. She fits the culture and she's a proven talent. There's no good reason not to float her an offer.
>Zaion
No chance. She's way too unstable. She was hard done by Niji no question about that, but making her an offer would be like watching a woman carve her boyfriend's throat out then walking up to her and giving her your number. She's also not box office which just brings her other potential negative traits even more into focus.
>Henya
I don't pay attention to vshojo at all. Is she even available for pick up? An offer would make sense if so, but I've not seen anything suggesting that she's available.
What you and some anons itt need to understand about the Hololive/Nijisanji thing is that they likely have some kind of gentleman's agreement not to do engage in too much of this headhunting/scavenging type of activity. It's definitely not written, it's probably not even spoken, but I'd bet you anything that it exists. If you give talents the idea that they have the option to just flip to the competitor at will then contracts get real expensive for everyone real fast. So it's actually in the financial interest of both companies to not make this an option for talents.

>> No.68619587

>>68619453
Is Vshojo really the retirement home for big name vtubers?

>> No.68619761

Great fanfiction thread. I wanna join too. It will be some unknown 2 and 3views that will become very succesful in Hololive.
Some of you really want Hololive to die, huh? lol Pomu. lmao

>> No.68619804

>>68617103
The biggest liability is she's attached to the hip with dramatubers so she'll always be a security risk.

>> No.68619869

>>68619587
In the past year and a half 5 out of the 7 new members they debuted are either former Hololive, former NijiEN or a big name from a smaller corpo. In late 2021 they had those auditions that ended up in nothing unless you think Haruka, the girl who was already really close to one of their members at the time and constantly collabed with the rest even before the auditions started, was the one they ended up choosing. So yeah, Vshojo is the designated retirement home for any free agent with clout.

>> No.68619874 [DELETED] 

>>68619093
>Implying Senzawa wasn't buddies with LemonLeaf, Shachimu or Dottovu in the pre-Holo days
>INB4 "SENZAWA ISN'T GOORUH"

Fuck off FarmerFrank, you schizo.

>> No.68619912

>>68619556
>Is she even available for pick up?
She likely has a minimum time agreement to be in vshojo. There's no way they would give her a vtuber model and all that shit, and not expect her to stay until their investment pays off.

>> No.68619945

>>68619761
It's a bunch of former Holo fans who jumped ship to NijiEN because they got bored of Myth or didn't like Council and now are trying to weasel their way back by begging for Pomu and Selen on HoloEN.

>> No.68619950

>>68619453
Boring and safe as they might be, they have the best perks in the industry. I agree that if Dokibird ever joins an agency, it would be them, since going corpo, any corpo, after all the shit she went through is not gonna happen.

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>>68619556
>What you and some anons itt need to understand about the Hololive/Nijisanji thing is that they likely have some kind of gentleman's agreement not to do engage in too much of this headhunting/scavenging type of activity. It's definitely not written, it's probably not even spoken, but I'd bet you anything that it exists. If you give talents the idea that they have the option to just flip to the competitor at will then contracts get real expensive for everyone real fast. So it's actually in the financial interest of both companies to not make this an option for talents.

I absolutely agree with your gentlemans agreement, however nijisanji is basically run by Indians and isn't worth taking seriously at this point if they can't even handle easy legal issues. I doubt they will remain a significant force anymore with all the bridges and good will they have burned.

Vshojo I admit I know little about as well, and I would straight up offer vshojo an option to buy Pikamee/henya out.

It's not so much headhunting and scavenging if done right. If I was in vshojo for instance, I would also scramble to pick up these talents.

>> No.68620094

>>68619587
It's not a retirement if you are doing better than ever after joining, which is true for almost all of them.

>> No.68620104

>>68616926
Why the fuck would anyone from Vshojo join Hololive? Vshojo members own their own IP, don't deal with fucking perms issues, and get a bigger cut of all money than any corpo out there. Henya especially even bragged about it on her stream that she owns herself and can do whatever she wants.

>> No.68620234

>>68613038
I hope HoloEN gets shut down for good and only JP with ID branches exist.

>> No.68620369

If Pomu applies she'll probably get the gig, but I genuinely don't know if she will apply.
No other former corpos will be in EN4 at all. It will be entirely made of 2view indies and tiktok memers/singers. Screenshot.
Hololive does not send offers / pitches to people. They only take people through the open application process and auditions.

>> No.68620484

Pomu should've gone to Hololive from the beginning and I say this as someone who enjoyed her PL and never bothered to watch her Niji reincarnation (because I'm shallow and hated her fairy design.) Thank fuck her time in Niji didn't taint her like it's tainting some of the other talents.

You are all crazy if you think Holo would touch Selen/Doki with a bargepole. She's not exactly faultless in all this.

>> No.68620590

>>68620094
It acts more like an exclusive club than anything. Invitation only, you keep your IP, provide services if you want, get you anything you can ask for.

>> No.68620668

>>68620484
I think she failed audition and Niji accepted her, which is why she was praising them in her final stream. Copium hit even before she joined.

>> No.68620707

>>68619556
For Henya, it's not about if she's contractually available, she almost certainly is, talents can basically book it at any time. The real question is WOULD she? I'd argue even pre-Vshojo she was completely unlikely to ever try to join Hololive, through a mix of imposter syndrome and agoraphobia, something Vshojo would be more likely to accomodate.
Post Vshojo it's a nonstarter, she's extremely happy where she is and isn't profit-driven at all, so Holo is a no-go.

>> No.68620720

>>68619556
>nijisanji sues over non compete or some shit
>judge reads legal document written by their lawyer, pajeet
>full of spelling mistakes
>the judge's name is wrong
>refers to cover by another companies name multiple times
>gets basic information wrong
>blatantly falsified evidence

>> No.68620772

>>68620484
>She's not exactly faultless in all this.
Black companies don't really have a valid opinion by their bad business practices being their modus operandi. Good companies provide proper guidance and assistance to their talents and employees to prevent what happened.

By default Selen is right and faultless. She shouldn't have been put in the position she was in by anycolor

>> No.68620883

>>68617308
There is no reason for Dokibird to join any JP corpo. She was so exited to not have to deal with perms bullshit, why give that up? The money, subs, and views have already shown to be there as an indie. She wants to collab with Mumei? She can without joining.

>> No.68620982

>>68620484
It's easy to forget that Nijisanji was legit back then and going for them could potentially get you more than hololive. Plus her whole PL group were nijisanji fans, long on record, not hololive fans

The fall is Nijisanji as a brand only began after EN

>> No.68621109

I think she would actually lose money going to Hololive due to having to split money with them.

>> No.68621192

>>68617161
Doki is BPD. She said she is.

>> No.68621202

>>68616926
Zaion/Sayu is mentally unhinged and carries WAY TOO MANY red flags. She's extremely edgy and very uncompromising, and barely knows when to shut up. She's also extremely hip with dramatubers, so company's privacy would be at stake.
She may seem like chill no bullshit kind of person at first glance but she's not. She's better off staying indie.
Hiring her would be same as slashing off your dick and balls with chipped out rusty knife.

>> No.68621221

>>68620982
Funny thing is, Pikamee was a part of that indie friend group, and she was the only one who was able to get into a good situation with Vshojo.

>> No.68621294

>>68619556
>She fits the culture
A: She's a whore and B: she's a whooooooooore

>> No.68621296

>>68621202
Just because VT, drama channels, and those who hate Nijisanji like her, doesn't mean others do. No idea why she keeps getting mentioned.

>> No.68621361

>>68621221
Pikamee wasn't. Pomu was part of a titled indie group with a Twitch team, events and music. Same one Elira, Shu and Claude come from.

>> No.68621436

>>68619556
>What you and some anons itt need to understand about the Hololive/Nijisanji thing is that they likely have some kind of gentleman's agreement not to do engage in too much of this headhunting/scavenging type of activity. It's definitely not written, it's probably not even spoken, but I'd bet you anything that it exists. If you give talents the idea that they have the option to just flip to the competitor at will then contracts get real expensive for everyone real fast. So it's actually in the financial interest of both companies to not make this an option for talents.
While I'd definitely agree with this, it's kind of a hot situation where a more vicious business might take this opportunity to edge a primary competitor out of a market. If Cover thinks this backlash will continue for months, it probably would be commercially beneficial for the EN market to float those offers to ex Nijis, specifically Selen/Pomu. Then it becomes a value proposition on if dominating the EN market is worth souring your unspoken agreement with Niji. If the Niji backlash actually spreads to JP audiences and they see a non-negligible hit to domestic profits, I'd dare to say it'd actually be a good idea.
However, if I had to guess, Cover seems fairly conservative/reactive and not run by cutthroats, so I personally doubt they'd violate the unspoken agreement out of fear it could be seen as aggressive/destabilizing when they're already in a strong position.
Best case scenario someone from the back office may be putting feelers out to see if Selen/Pomu would be interested in re-debuting with a new Holo gen, without making promises, as the thought is irrelevant if neither actually has any interest, which seems fairly likely.

>> No.68621705

>>68620982
Nijisanji never was legit in first place, retard. Stop shilling that piece of shit company.
The fact that company has almost 200 talents about which they don't give a shit at all and their main strategy is "to accelerate" aka short selling, says a lot.
They also didn't support their own ID branch at all (they just simply let it die) and never had a proper management.
>>68621296
>doesn't mean others do
She's Rushia tier mentally unhinged woman. People like her don't belong in mainstream entertainment business. Taking somebody new that you don't know into company is risky by default, hiring somebody like Sayu is 10 times worse. Cover would be signing their death sentence.

>> No.68621920

>>68619950
"The best perks" is an exaggeration especially after the whole wizard game debacle and they only care about you if you're already an established name, otherwise Vshojo is not even an option for the absolute majority of fledgling vtubers out there.

>> No.68621942

>>68621361
>Pomu was part of a titled indie group with a Twitch team, events and music. Same one Elira, Shu and Claude come from.
No she was not, why are you lying?
https://virtualyoutuber.fandom.com/wiki/Hanamori

>> No.68622002

>>68613341
I was at a place like this once but I don't remember whether I dreamed it or it was in World of Warcraft.

>> No.68622424

>>68619912
How long did Nazuna stay?
Also if HoloEN debuted another gen this year, it won't be until July at the earliest.

>> No.68622491

>>68620104
Yeah. But money talks and Hololive will make you more even if you get "less of a cut"

>> No.68622517

I don't know if she even tries to apply but I would love to see Panko in holo.
>EU hours saved
>Cute and funny
>Interesting content outside of games
>Good singer

>> No.68622669

>>68620982
Yup. A certain roommate basically said that she had no idea NijiEN would have devolved into what it is now.

>> No.68622832

I always love when you guys reveal you have no idea what Indies/Vshojo make in terms of money.

>> No.68622841

Holo needs to recruit Aia and Scarle

Source: I am huffing copium.

>> No.68623286

>>68613038
They’re either going to be some 2view that someone starts making threads about, and a bunch of other 2views you’ve never heard of. At least one will be Canadian, and the third in debut order will either be Korean or have attended Korean church services in the past.

>> No.68623582

>>68619453
You’ve convinced me, fuck hiring nijis, bring on the indie autists

>> No.68624046

>>68620883
Whether she actually can collab with Mumei is probably dependent on whether Anycolor is willing to ban the JPs from doing Hololive collabs, since I don’t think there’s much enthusiasm left in Hololive for NijiEN collabs.

>> No.68625513

>>68614875
Dumbass anti

>> No.68625594

Give me Erika Byakko from Vreverie's gen 2. She was great before their incompetent management made shit explode.

>> No.68625718

>>68616363
I had never heard of them before they joined holo

>> No.68625829

>>68614875
Both of them are shit and it is pathetic the attempts of astroturfing them as viable Holos

>> No.68625836

>>68617646
The fact that she and kuro are on close terms solidifies her place in vshojo

>> No.68625954

>>68615351
>from Dmitri himself
That screencap wasn't fake? He's really pro-selen? Is showing that openly not dangerous for his position? I'm happy but....

>> No.68625960

>>68615351
I would kill for Pomu and Selen to be in the same gen, or even the same corpo. I just want to see them interact again, their sister like chemistry is super rare and entertaining.

>> No.68626194

>>68615967
Before Holo, she never lasted more than few months in a "work" always doing re-debut and dropping their viewers without notice.
>>68616363
Their company dropped them after they shilled the VN, they don't choose to leave.

>> No.68626232

>>68619761
>>68621294
Antis like you are a fucking liability. Get the fuck out.

>> No.68626240

>>68623286
I live how you probably couldn't get better then even odds on this if anyone was actually setting up bets. It's 100% going to happen.

>> No.68626394

>>68626194
What VN?

>> No.68626471

>>68626232
You're not fooling anyone, nijinig.

>> No.68626491

>>68622517
Panko is doing good in phase, but she's a holo fan so she might be auditioning anyway

>> No.68626528
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>>68613038
no EU = no point

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>>68613038
selen is coming home
pomu is coming home
rosemi is coming home
elira will be kicked before coming home

>> No.68626676

>>68626491
Now that you mentioned I am curious if EN4 will end up having a graduate from any of the more established small corpos like Phase or Idol.

>> No.68626682

>>68613038
Literally no one who was in niji will be in hololive, not because they would be ex-niji and not hired due to courtesy, but because they aren't good enough. Pomu and selen, the ones I see people cope the most about are dog shit talents, the only corpo that would even think of hiring them would be shit corpos that don't give a shit about their content quality or that are desperate to leech from bigger corpos regardless of said quality

>> No.68626850

>>68616926
Selen just made 500k subs in 3 days and already has two people on her payroll in management and merch sales. The bitch is a dynamo. Unironically the one who least needs a corpo despite the fact she probably has the most holo connections.

Putting Sayu in front of salarymen JP managers is going to result in either a suicide or a shooting spree, and her content is a pretty hard opposite of what Hololive does anyway. But again, even if it wasn't, she needs to sort herself out first. By marrying me, preferably. MARRY ME SAYU I KNOW YOU'RE /HERE/ I CAN GIVE YOU ANYTHING YOU WANT

Pomu has the most content overlap and her getting hired would cause a hilarious meltdown from her SEA tribal antis, but recent events have made it look like she has no interest in coming back to vtubing anytime soon this year. Also, personally I am not ready to be a holobrony, which I would have to be since I'll follow Pomu anywhere (love me pommers). Sure beats debuting in vshitjo though.

>> No.68626917

>>68621942
The wiki is incorrect because she didn't keep a Twitch and they seem to have just grabbed their list off of some period version of the team page since there're people who weren't actual members there. She participated in all their member only events. She's even in their celebration music video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp_W8-poAI8

>> No.68626965

>>68613038
Wow, can't wait for 5 more people who will drop streaming in a year.

>> No.68627516

>>68626394
The one that has the same name of the vtubers.

>> No.68627753

>>68613038
Pomu = low numbers, so no interest.
Miori = Fucking who?
Selen = Unprofessional behavior , possible brand risk.

>> No.68627825

>>68621920
Exactly, Not an option for 99.9999% of vtubers because it is exclusive.

>> No.68627927

>>68627753
Almost everyone who got into Holo EN was "Fucking who?"

>> No.68627963

>>68627753
Every HoloEN hire was someone with low numbers or "fucking whos"

>> No.68628166

>>68626917
>She participated in all their member only events. She's even in their celebration music video.
Because she's friends with them, but she was never part of Hanamori you mongoloid

>> No.68628552

>>68613038
Is it safe to say we'll get a new gen in july? Yagoo basically confirmed that they didn't want to hire new girls until they could guarantee access to Japan to them because of covid.

>> No.68629204

>>68628552
EN4 is likely either June or October.

>> No.68630235

>>68625960
If Pomu goes to Vshojo, they can stream together as much they want.
If she goes to Hololive then it'll be once a month at most.

>> No.68631156

>anybody from nijien
absolutely not

>> No.68632044

>>68631156
Why?

>> No.68632620

>>68613038
I hope Mr. Jap, and her holo friends, save Millie

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>>68614875

>> No.68632869

>>68628552
October

>> No.68634029

Why the fuck would you want to hire big corpo's failures. They already had their chance and didn't make it.

>> No.68634519

>>68632620
kek

>> No.68635285

>>68615351
>Nijikeks begging again
Surely they will get in for sure this time!!!!111

>> No.68635503

>>68634029
but enough about Luna

>> No.68635826

>>68632869
>>68629204
>october
Why? EN's always been revealed in the summer. People said October for advent and it wasn't then either. Not sure why people keep coming out with this date.

>> No.68635995

>>68622841
Also Vivi

>> No.68636000

>>68619761
Just let the nijifags play their little imagination game lol. It's all they have at this point

>> No.68636079

>>68626240
I can go even further and predict that the one with the deepest voice will have the tallest, bustiest character model.

>> No.68636618

>>68635826
They won't debut a new EN gen on the same moth of any of the previous three so July to September is a no go. June is a very good bet since it keeps up with the HoloEN debut pattern and is over a year after the most recent auditions call and 11 months after Advent's debut which was the same amount of time between Myth and Council. October is just a safe bet because over a year after Advent, a rather dead month for anniversaries and if the monster girls schizo somehow wins it would match the theme.

>> No.68636918

Selen is pretty cool and all but if she gets into Holo the collab beggars will be insufferable for fucking decades.

>> No.68638145 [DELETED] 

That fat puerto rican goes full vtuber
joins vshojo

>> No.68638696

>>68613038
the operagx vtuber

>> No.68638829

>>68638696
Not that dramawhore, always crying about Lumi

>> No.68638943

>>68630235
Once a month would be enough, even once every quarter. I just don't want to see them lose track of one another.

>> No.68639079

Holo insider here. Belle Delphine was under consideration at one point in time

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>ITT: Nijibeggar tourists
go back to whichever shithole you came from, fucking retarded tourists. your bargain bin liver organs are never getting in Hololive.

>> No.68639785

>>68639626
Do you ever take a second to see the autistic shit you write?

>> No.68639958

>>68625594
Qrd?

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>>68639785
Go back Nijinigger tourist.

>>>https://www.reddit.com/r/Nijisanji/
>>>https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World

>> No.68640458

The people begging Cover to hire Selen are starting to make me kind of dislike her. She would be the death of HoloEN.

>> No.68640816

In an ideal world they would hire some people who don't stream at the exact same time as 90% of the current members, since the cracks are already starting to show in holoEN's strategy of appealing exclusively to the west coast

>> No.68640958

>>68640458
No one who actually fucking watches HoloEN is begging for a former Niji. It's either former Holo fans who thought the grass was greener on the other side, homobeggars who want a new girl to be an accessory of their homos or shitposters baiting for (You)s.

>> No.68642708

>>68615351
>but also from Dmitri himself
Lol lmao who the fuck are you? Mumei sure but him? Mr.CGDCT?

>> No.68642832

>>68619224
Then how the hell did Mori get in?

>> No.68645137

>>68640958
Nah, I want an EN Towa

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>>68613038
who the fuck uses "scry"

>> No.68645293

>>68645236
MTG players

>> No.68645501

>>68623286
Chance of another Aussie might happen

>> No.68645518

>>68645137
So you're a homobeggar. Also fucking why? Apex is atrocious.

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>>68642708
Do your reps

>> No.68645685

>Doki - ollie 2.0
no thank you, homobeggar can fuck off
>Pomu - Luca cocksleeve
no thank you, homobeggar can fuck off again

>> No.68645908

>>68645685
Turns out it wasn't Luca, but rather his hag groomer using his account

>> No.68645938

>>68645518
Homobeggar? No. I don't want the other girls to play with stars if they don't want to. But it's nice to have someone who interacts and does events.

>> No.68646102

>>68645593
>Reposted
>A LinkedIn post about how Niji failed to help their best talent
Seems to me like he's gloating about it rather than showing interest.

>> No.68646223

>>68645938
The only good opinion ITT

>> No.68646855

>>68646223
I've noticed that homo cooties don't spread through female-female collabs, so this works for both kinds of people.

>> No.68647115

>>68615351
Doki is 100% not joining Company ever again, she will be staying indie, which is fine, she is on track to be one of the biggest indie VTubers out there. She will easily be making $750K-$1M on her 1st year before payments for management and commissions. She will collab with Mumei and others as Doki the same way Calli collabs with Milky Queen time to time.

Pomu on the other hand is way more likely to want to be in Hololive, it was her real goal, its why she tried to get in there several times. Unlike Doki, Pomu is way more into dancing and singing, and 3D models. I really would not be shocked if she in fact got into Gen4 EN with inside help.

>> No.68647540

>>68625594
this, she has so much potential and seemed to genuinely enjoy it. also we need more holos streaming at EU times

>> No.68649501

>>68645938
No, it's not. That normalizes the behavior and draws in fans to Hololive who expect those kinds of collabs from everyone. Just think back to how emboldened beggars were after Kronii, Mori, and Ame started collabing with Tempus. They pestered everyone else for months trying to get them to do it too. And thanks to recent events, Selen now has a fanbase largely comprised of twitter freaks and dramafags, and those are the last people anyone should want contaminating Hololive.

>> No.68649792

>>68649501
I'm glad that dimitri terminated those 2 homo before holilive turned into Niji 2.0 and punished Kroni for her crime

>> No.68650031

Pomu, Selen and some other dramashitters join Dev_IsEN and are all forced to stream EU hours and can't collab with HoloEN until they have proven they can stream without drama and have gotten rid of their old fans.

>> No.68650055

>>68649501
Anon, all of the other branches already have this. It's part of why they work so well. It keeps the pressure off of the girls who don't want to.

>> No.68650341

>>68650031
Pomu hates dramashitters tho

>> No.68650459

>>68650341
So does Selen, but it's console war bullshit

>> No.68650827

>>68650459
>console war bullshit
That's exactly what wanting Pomu and Selen in Hololive is, yes. That and wanting to burn Hololive down.

>> No.68650877

If we get a girl who wants to make homo content, there's no rational argument in favor of forcing her not to.

>> No.68651058

>>68616556
do you think that none of the niji girls aren't applying to holo on cooldown?

>> No.68651067

>>68649792
The branches were likely already separated by the time tweedledee and tweedledum were termi-graduated so Jap probably had nothing to do with that.

>>68650055
No it fucking doesn't. That anon literally mentioned a period where EVERY EN girl was pressured to give a statement regarding homo collabs and the only reason they weren't harassed by the beggars for giving the "wrong" answer was because the absolute majority of actual Hololive fans do not care about the male failures and they heavily outnumbers those subhumans.

>> No.68651224

>>68651067
Retard. EN doesn't have this. That's the only reason why that happens. It doesn't happen with the other branches because their fans have regular access to homo collab content since the girls like to make it.

>> No.68651529

>>68651224
Nigger did you fucking forget 2022? Am I talking with someone who started watching HoloEN with fucking Advent?

>> No.68651560

>>68650877
Yes there is. The rational argument for forcing a girl not to do Homo collabs is that the Homos are utter cancer that poison everything they touch, the EN audience doesn't want them, and they almost destroyed the EN branch back when Omega was pushing for intergender garbage.

>> No.68651702

>>68650877
Yes, and FWMC is in the right to ignore all the homo, and everyone in hololive should do the same

https://youtu.be/B_kZ1WSpJBg?t=2833

>> No.68651768

>>68651529
My man, we are living in 2024. It's not nearly the same as back then.

>> No.68651915

>>68651067
They WERE harassed by beggar
homobeggar invinsible gun is real

>> No.68652325

>>68651768
And the fact that it fucking happened in the first place means the beggars will do it again if any of the girls goes back to doing weekly collabs with those failures. Hell, they seethed for an entire week after the twins ignored the shitters during the HoloExpo/Fes stream >>68651702

>>68651915
Well, sure, by a handful of greyniggers who were instantly drowned by chat, twitter cunts who yelled at the clouds and reddit subhumans who ended up leaving the official sub after people started downvoting their retardation.

>> No.68652355

An EN equivalent to Towa and Ollie would add a lot of variety without ruining anything. It would let the talents be more open and honest with their stance on homo collabing.

>> No.68652564

>>68652355
An EN Towa sure, but an EN Ollie would do anything in her power to make even the most anti-homo girl collab with the faggots.

>> No.68652751

>>68652564
I just mean someone who, like Towa and Ollie, enjoys collabing with the stars and people from other companies regardless of gender.

>> No.68653087

>>68652355
>homobegging
>dont ruin anything
nice joke lol, see what happen to NijiEN???

Male Vtuber was a mistake

>> No.68653147

Only 2 views or super low 3 views. No pomu or selen because they have their chances already.

>> No.68653342

>>68653087
Anon, NijiEN has terrible management. We already went through that with that retard Omega. HoloID, HoloJP, and NijiJP have members who regularly enjoy doing mixed collabs.

>> No.68655106

>>68653342
Not even Omega was as shit as NijiEN management desu.

>> No.68655168

>>68655106
That's part of why we got through it.

>> No.68655304

>>68653342
And part of Niji EN's terrible management was encouraging the branch to become an intergender shitfest.

>> No.68655786

>>68655304
They forced every member to do homocollabs. That obviously doesn't work. But it would help if we had someone who enjoys doing them.

>> No.68655844

>>68655786
It would be a bigger help if Cover got rid of the male failures.

>> No.68655993

>>68655844
That's never going to happen. So it makes more sense to figure out some compromise.

>> No.68656177

>>68614430
>Amelia, and gura were mid level twitch streamers
Do chumbuds and teamates really? What the fuck am I actually reading?

>> No.68656231

>>68655993
Then the compromise is to keep them in their own corner and not fucking encourage this shitty attempt at nijifying Hololive. If the homos want to collab with nijis, small corpos, indies or whatever that's on them but fuck off with wanting more girls to become their accessories.

>> No.68656453

>>68656231
So you're saying they should make not wanting to homocollab a requirement to join?

>> No.68656465

>>68646102
Gloating is not very professional, especially for a LinkedIn post. I do genuinely think Jap is interested in Doki/Selen, but its really up to Doki whether she wants to get that blue dorito or not.

>>68647115
>>68620883
I'll say this - organizing and managing collabs, as well as moving forward with certain initiatives would be a lot easier if she was under a better corpo. Yes, she has a good manager now, but as an indie she will still be limited in terms of budget as well as tech. I'm not saying she HAS to go corpo, but I do think it will benefit her. Really, its a matter of whether she wants the idol lifestyle or not. Consider that both Natsumi Moe and Shachimu were doing fine as indie vtubers, but they still went for the dorito.

As for Pomu, I really do think it was only Niji or bust for her. I know people want to see her in Hololive, especially with Kiara there, but I think she most wanted to "bring Nijisani to the west". Its why I'm actually not that keen to see Pomu under Hololive. I think the real best situation is if Nijisanji got their shit together, got better management, and Pomu redebuted. Because Pomu graduated, and a talent CAN come back after a graduation. Yes, there's a lot of legal BS, but at least its not a termination. Looking at it, I can see why Pomu went with a graduation, especially with the state Niji is in right now.

>but NijiEN is going to die!

Its a big corpo, its one of those big corpos thats "too big to fail". If the EN side folds into JP, they'll just try again. Riku may be young and stupid, but I think he knows that he can't ignore the EN side. Its not the same as India. I may hate Niji, but I don't think they're just going to "die" overnight

>> No.68656640

>>68613341
Grimmi seems like a nice girl, haven't watched much of her though
>>68614430
Hololive doesn't emphasize having a past in streaming like Niji does. Holo wants girls with talent beyond just streaming because Hololive places a lot of importance on the idol aspect. It's why a lot of girls who are otherwise good streamers don't end up getting in, and why some girls that have barely streamed do end up getting in.

>> No.68656809

>>68626528
Cover knows that the US is their biggest money maker after Japan, so they want to cater to the US market. You might get one more EU chuuba if you're lucky

>> No.68656890

>>68656465
Pomu's never going back to Nijisanji, no matter what they offered her. During her Twitter Space she was absolutely thrilled to sing a bunch of songs she was not allowed to sing while in Nijisanji (Metal Gear songs, Dempagumi, even the HoloEN song Connect the World), so there's no way she's ever going back.

>> No.68656917

>>68656465
I have the opposite read on Pomu. She's a huge idol fan, so she probably understands the appeal of the walled garden.

>> No.68657094

>>68656453
My dude you're the one who wants Cover to hire girls who want to be homo accessories.

>> No.68657248

>>68656917
I do think its a possibility, but I also really think it depends on whether she thinks Hololive is a good fit for her. >>68656890 also made a good point. Heck, a lot of anons also think she's going the vshojo route. With Pomu, it could really go anyway. I just personally don't think she'd be happy with Hololive, but thats me. Would it be fucking funny if Pomu actually joined Idol Corp or Phase Connect?

>> No.68657278

>>68657094
No. I'm not saying that they should try to find someone by making it some sort of criteria. I just think it would help with the branch dynamic to have someone who does.

>> No.68657454

>>68657278
You mean help the homo branch because HoloEN doesn't gain anything from having a new designated homo accessory.

>> No.68657906

>>68657454
I'm not sure how you're still not understanding it. If a new member wanted to collab with homos, there shouldn't be an issue. Rather, it means the other girls aren't as pressured to do mixed gender collabs since they're already being done.

>> No.68657966

>>68657454
>HoloEN doesn't gain anything from having a new designated homo accessory.
That's never stopped them before

>> No.68658164

>>68657906
They're already not being pressured because the beggars gave up after the two retards left. The new faggots aren't even daring to interact with the girls outside of a few Mori raids and the old fags only really collab with ID or non-Holos.

>> No.68658422

Hopefully, its all Indies and none of the Niji's thrown away leftover. Good luck to those trying to get in!

>> No.68658492

>>68658164
That's fine. But there's nothing bad about having a girl in EN who likes to do homo collabs. It works very well for the other branches.

>> No.68659218

>>68613341
I haven't watched her much. Is she menhera at all?

>> No.68659588

>>68626850
Pomu's hardcore playing it cool right now. She seems confident in the future.
She's probably all but confirmed to end up in the next holoen gen so she's just taking an extended vacation and/or prepping for actual idol activities until then.

Selen's gonna strongly leverage those holo connections for collabs and event/tournament guests after she settles into her new status as one of the biggest indies.

>> No.68659803

>>68659588
>She seems confident in the future.
I'd bet my left nut that Pomu already already is locked in a corp and is just waiting it out until her debut is ready.

>> No.68660342

>>68618603
Thought this was byakko for a second.

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>>68614043
>>68615114
Better yet, Big Eye. Scry a perfect 5 for the next gen.

>> No.68660797

>>68613038
>Doki
Doubt it; she'd have to recreate a third persona unless Cover can fit her Doki persona in a la Suisei. And as others have pointed out, I don't think she wants to deal with perm autism again. If she were to join, she'd be in an EN Gamers side branch, or a different corpo (really VShojo at this point). That being said, I do see her collabing with Mumei (and possibly Towa) in the future, in addition to becoming one of the biggest indies.
>Pomu
This makes a bit more sense given that Pomu is super into idols. Yes she was super into Nijisanji but when it turned into an absolute hellhole I can see her getting very disillusioned with it to put it lightly. If she does join, she can finally go full sperg with Kiara and Nerissa about idols which as a Jailbird would be fun to watch.
>Zaion/Sayu
Too many red flags; I get that she is trying to turn her life around but palling around with dramatubers and doxxers is going to chase away any corpo big or small.

I'd honestly rather see one or some of the vReverie girls getting in; Erika, Cheri/Bri, Rana, Nova, etc. That, or smaller indies.

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>>68613038
>Pomu
Is going on a trip with Matara to Japan. Also along for the ride is Mika and Kuro. I think she's been lost long ago.

>> No.68661158

>>68613038
Queenpb for a true British idol

>> No.68661344

>>68620234
2020 /jp/ 帰って下さい

>> No.68661475

>>68660937
Pomu's been in Japan for a week now, and will be there for 3 months for an educational course she's taking

>> No.68661599

>>68617120
Remember the old Nazca rrat

>> No.68662147

I don't know why everyone is so certain they're picking from Vtubers when there's already plenty of non reincarnates in HoloEN.

>> No.68662288

>>68662147
Because they have picked infamous vtubers who left bad organizations before

>> No.68662740

>>68652751
You already have bae...

>> No.68663060

>>68658492
Advent's doing great with zero homocollabs so go fuck yourself

>> No.68663153

>>68661475
And Mata is leaving tomorrow with an all hands on deck VShojo meeting today that cut Henya's stream short

>> No.68664431

>>68660342
It is! Erika to be exact!

>> No.68664590

Kronii
Ina

>> No.68667263

The only ones who will ever join are 1 or 2views who wont make it as an indie and are willing to suffer the JP autism.
Anyone pretending that any of the former niji talents would ever touch a jp corp is just delusional.

>> No.68667368

>>68658492
>It works very well for the other branches.
Except it doesn't. Ask Ollie how male collab spam is working out for her. Then take a look at how far Kobo's numbers have fallen since she got on the Homo train.

>> No.68667521

>>68616926
>even Pikamee/Henya in vshojo

I'm pretty sure she'd actually die from stress in a serious corpo job.

>> No.68667777

>>68617997
What happened to your right?

>> No.68671369

The choice is not Holo but the talents themselves.
Hololive does not need to poach. There is a waiting list of talented individuals trying to get in and willing to wait for years.
The talk of only wanting 2 views hasn't looked at the past lives that have joined. Even though 2-3 views of the past would be 3-4 views today.

So Hololive just has to wait for them to apply.
Question is do they want to?
The excuse that they want to stay away from corpos is false, like was said of Zaion right after she left. While in Niji, Zaion said her senpais' excuse was this is how it's like in a corpo. But Zaion just left corpos like Google, and is not. Many are realizing that Niji is not a standard corpo.

Both are capable of being indies, but it is a load of work behind the scenes. Forgetting that others would be handling such tasks more efficiently is what makes corpos so attractive (excluding Niji).
Selen has already been working like an Indie in Niji. And her made connections there have already provided support as if she never left, manager, merch, and all.
Pomu is a good Hololive candidate. Maybe already having talks, with Kiara as support.

>> No.68672629

>>68667368
You're still applying Niji logic to Holo.
>Muh noombers

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