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68542168 No.68542168 [Reply] [Original]

>They actually thought their sad menhera would emerge victorious and be allowed back into civilized society after Niji's downfall
Enjoy your pickme connect collabs.

>> No.68542320

Yassss you tell 'em sister

>> No.68542800

>>68542168
Okay but what was that song?

>> No.68542898

>>68542168
Sayu really thinks shes part of the team

>> No.68542917

>>68542168
xi is next, chink dog

>> No.68542936

>>68542168
my friend phase is a better company than niji currently

>> No.68543006

>>68542898
She literally doesn't. That's why she's constantly depressed.

>> No.68543009

>>68542898
She could have if she didn't leak what matara told her in secret.

>> No.68543019

>>68542800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MctPrWEyb3c

>> No.68543096

>>68543019
mid

>> No.68543212

>>68543009
Nina is super petty if she's preventing Sayu from getting bread because of some nothingburger leak.

>> No.68543252

>>68542168
>civilized society
But they're still niji talents. They're all in the picture because they're niji talents. They just got fired but they're still bad talents that were in a bad company for bad talents. You can't change this, and putting them all together agrees with that sentiment. They'll never be fully accepted outside of non ex-niji and niji-friend groups. That's the sad truth behind that dream.

>> No.68543275

This is hilarious. The we are family narrative is now a religious fantasy kek I wouldn't want fans like this if I were a vtuber.

>> No.68543310

>>68543275
everyone wishes they were hololive lel

>> No.68543385

>>68542800
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7jpINpqbQ
https://twitter.com/sayusyn/status/1755022003428622571

>> No.68543433

>>68542168
She was in Niji for like 2 months, she's stupid for thinking ex-nijis would treat her like a long time friend.

>> No.68543491

>>68542168
Damn...

>> No.68543594

>>68542168
Sayu is what the current NDF rrat wants us to believe Doki was.

>> No.68543868

>>68543212
Nina's a jew. The hell did you expect?

>> No.68544058

>>68542168
What was that song though

>> No.68544120

>>68543096
He was off his face on drugs and this was right after Encore which sucked so yeah

>> No.68544517

>>68543385
remind me of old nyanners...

>> No.68544729

Their really building up this punished story line but I am not seeing when they are going to go for the pay off

>> No.68544872

>>68544729
There will be no payoff. Victims by definition are not victors. The only winners will be those that forge their own path separate from the shitfest they endured.

>> No.68544887

She needs to stop caring about people who apparently haven't sent a single message, or about the Fanbase that most don't even put her in postgraduate group fanarts, why care about these people and their fanbases?

>> No.68544930

>>68544872
So there will be a turn is what you are saying?

>> No.68544955

>>68544887
Because she can't comprehend people that evil actually exist, especially when in her mind it would cost them nothing to save her.

>> No.68545047

>>68543009
>>68543212
What did she even leak?

>> No.68545049

>>68542168
Oh no Doki will be welcomes back with open arms she showed professionalism after the fall only speaking put when the company said too much and violated their own NDA forcing Doki and her legal team to respond...

Sayu went full loose cannon and goes on stream with dramatubers. AND I like Sayu!

>> No.68545081 [DELETED] 

>>68542320
do any of them have problem with sayu besides matara?

>> No.68545159

>>68542168
uuuhhh phasebros? I thought sayu was coming with us so why is she so desperate to get close to vshojo?

>> No.68545216

>>68542168
RIP Sayu
Also who's the glasses one?

>> No.68545228

>>68544887
Dude, all it took was anyone, literally anyone, not Pomu, Doki, Matara-kan, anyone, create a post speaking well of her and everything would be over, all it took was for the people who make fanart, to put her with the rest, but these people are super insessible

>> No.68545236

>>68545081
They all have a problem with her, their failure to defend her when it mattered is bad for their branding. Easier to just sweep it under the rug and less costly.

>> No.68545285

Fuck all of you, Sayu doesn't deserve this.

>> No.68545289

>>68545049
It's easy to talk when you have everyone's support

>> No.68545333

>>68542168
People should start replacing the dude with a photo, because he's now a fleshtuber.

>> No.68545361

>>68544955
All the more reason she needs to stop hanging around these grifter drama channels. One of these days she's going to end up on a fucking Hero Hei video. People are going to keep taking advantage of her vulnerability and her trust until she stops.

>> No.68545402

>>68542168
I think if the majority of your ex-coworkers who also quit the company don't want anything to do with you maybe it's time to consider you might also be the problem

>> No.68545492

>>68545216
Mika

>> No.68545570

>>68545402
I love how her antis are underhanded like you

>> No.68545684

>>68545047
something paraphrased along the likes of

>i talked to a senpai in nijisanji who thought that she would amount to nothing outside of nijisanji and that made me really sad. i think they'd do great!

apparently it was nina she was talking about

>> No.68545693

>>68545402
Or you know that the company full of unprofessional bullies, sexpests and insane bugwomen are the issue

>> No.68545723

>>68545570
I don't care about sayu I just want her to leave my oshi's alone

>> No.68545742

>>68543212
>Nina is super petty
Yes.

>> No.68545756

>>68545723
>oshi's

>> No.68545782

>>68545693
so you agree that she's also one of those then

>> No.68545812

>>68542168
Zaion is too based to be with these fucking scummy rejects. Only Doki is alright. The others are scum. Nina literally bullied her after getting access to the clique.

>> No.68545849

>>68545782
Nope she clearly didn't fit in with the company culture if she got kicked out within a few months

>> No.68545872

>>68545081
Honestly who knows. None of them are friendly with her. She wasn't there very long. As much as we light to meme on Finana for the gaslighting thing maybe Zaion really did lie to management and tell them Finana said it was ok to use her personal Genshin account or some such. If she did something to Finana Pomu will likely never give her the time of day, same with Selen.

>> No.68545891

>>68545684
If that's all it was and no names were mentioned then that's genuinely pathetic to get mad over.

>> No.68545924

>>68545891
yes, there were no names mentioned, the context was figured out from nina being mad on stream later after leaving nijisanji

>> No.68545994

>>68542168
Had to wade through shit sewers to unlock the door for the others, now the others wont touch because she smells.

>> No.68546010

>>68545849
yeah she fit much better with the doxxfags she immediately brushed up to

>> No.68546218

>>68545402
everyone /here/ agrees you're a faggot, are you a faggot?

>> No.68546222

>>68545812
You think Doki will acknowledge Sayu?

>> No.68546242
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>>68542168
Nerd my beloved

>> No.68546318

>>68546222
No chance

>> No.68546374

>>68546222
If not even miss suicide attempt will then it'll be the nail in coffin for her

>> No.68546413

>Sayu will just be a pariah forever

>> No.68546440

>>68542168
Why they gotta do my nigga unnamed dirty like this

>> No.68546478

>>68546222
only if Sayu can acknowledge herself first

>> No.68546504

>>68545285
Deserve what? The fantasies and expectations she has of herself and her situation, and how the world simply doesn't work like that? She needs to move the fuck on.

>> No.68546554

>>68545872
Anon it was management that said she could use her account, then did a 180 and put it on the bullet list

>> No.68546661

>>68546222
I dunno. Better chance than any of the other faggots though.

>> No.68546670

Sayu should just keep doing what she's doing as an indie. She's got a sponsorship with Genshin, she gets a decent amount of live viewers, she has friends in indies and Phase, she just really needs to put this Nijisanji shit and especially the others from that company behind her. It's just not worth it. Chasing the approval of people that don't want anything to do with you anymore is just not worth it.
And if it's the need to belong in a community, then one of her best options will be joining a corpo again.

>> No.68546676

>>68542168
>Ex Niji vs. Ex Niji

>> No.68546741

>>68546670
Ah, but you see, as this demonstrates, that's not Sayu's dream. Do you expect her to give up her dream?

>> No.68546796

>>68546222
She won't

>> No.68546799

>>68545228
Make some fanart then. Why is the discussion always about everyone else's community?

>> No.68546855

>>68542168
>Shitting on Phase while Niji has burned all western good will over the past year and a half
At least have some self awareness.

>> No.68546875

>>68546478
She does, that's why it hurts. The problem is no one is willing to see that she has changed and are stuck with their own preconceived notions. All she wants is to be given a chance to let them know she isn't the person she used to be.

>> No.68546888
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68546888

>random seething at phase
We love our pickmes, femanon.

>> No.68546889

>>68542168
Sayu like all prophets treads a lonely road

>> No.68546932

>>68542168
suck it intern-kun!, niji is done and there is nothing you can do about it, HAHAHAHAHAHA.

>> No.68546994

>>68546670
She's doing okay. But I think she expected to get the same or similar treatment to doki since they went through such a similar thing. But everyone shit on Sayu after Niji fucked her. No one believed her or cared about her except /here/. Now it's happened to Doki and Doki is standing on her shoulders she gets all the love in the world and everyone supports her when they wouldn't lift a finger for Sayu. Mainly because twitter teenaged femcels kicked up a huge fit because she made a rape joke against a fictional character in a video game and a tame one at that. Women should seriously not be allowed internet access until they are married.

>> No.68546997

I'm on Sayu's side but not gonna lie, she's getting on my last nerve forcing herself onto ex-nijis that clearly don't give a shit about her. It's pathetic how much she wants to join the cool kids table

>> No.68547007

>>68546222
Probably not very high, because Selen and Zaion never really interacted much IIRC.
If anything it makes me wonder why Sayu wants to get so close to ex-nijis. She's closer to Phase and Idol girls realistically, and those girls aren't too small either.

>> No.68547013

>>68545812
Even Doki probably won't have much to do with her. They weren't friends

>> No.68547040

>>68545684
That's it? Anons keep parroting that she "leaked private convos to hundreds of people" but all she shared was... A general sentiment?

>> No.68547078

>>68546889
The only road that she has ever known.

>> No.68547092

>>68546875
That's not acknowledging yourself or your own value. She's going to keep endlessly seeking validation and remain unsatisfied, until she can nurture a self-worth of her own.

>> No.68547108

>>68546413
The retarded thing is that she literally isn't, though. She's just got it in her head that she needs the NijiEN livers as well as the spotlight of being an ex-Niji, despite the fact that recently she's been doing really well as an indie and collabing a fair amount. Yeah, she has some sisters who shit on her from time to time, but other than that she's had a good thing going. Almost the entirety of her problems are in her head.

>> No.68547126

>>68546855
>>68546888
>sayu would rather publicly humiliate herself at the chance a vshitshow refugee will extend a hand than join phase

Grim

>> No.68547137

>>68547040
Just like how Twitter kept spamming she's a pedophile and a rape apologist when she only lusted over 500 years old Genshin twinks and said half a rape joke about a fictional character

>> No.68547145

>>68547040
Yep

>> No.68547189

>>68547013
Sometimes the best friendships are formed between people who have similar experiences. But I think Doki wants to cozy up to the Kyo and Matara crowd. Sayu just needs to stay strong. She went through shit way harder than all of the ex niji's combined. She can make it.

>> No.68547196

>>68547126
that is more telling about phase

>> No.68547372

>suicider
>whistleblower
>brokegirl
>sadboy
>terminated corpo slave
>bullying victim
thats like every play in the book. selen/doki really used up all the reincarnation hype juice in one go.
any niji who thinks they're going to get the doki treatment if they leave now is fucking deluding themselves
even pomu is going to get a fraction of the support, partly because she's taking forever to come back

>> No.68547417

>>68545891
>>68545924
Not true, she said her name directly.
>like when nina said that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnP5bIRfwq0&t=295s

>> No.68547433

>>68545684
well turns out she was proven right.

>> No.68547528

>>68547417
>mention your name
>be nice and say you'll be amazing outside of that dogshit company
>nina gets mad about it
What the fuck is wrong with this stupid russian bitch?

>> No.68547536

>>68547372
pomu doesn't want a dramafag audience

>> No.68547584

>>68547092
I don't think you get it. You don't know what it's like to not be trusted by anyone that you truly care about. Sure you can nurture a self-worth of your own, but it won't change the fact that you broke trust with people you truly cared about and it will live with you forever. There needs to be some sort of closure instead of being just left out in the dark. Until you've been in that person's shoes, then you'll know how it feels.

>> No.68547622

>>68547417
Still, it's a bit much for Nina to be pissy about for so long. It's not like Sayu leaked that Nina had a boyfriend or something, she was just saying that Nina had the same feeling that many others in Niji had, it's not a mind-blowing revelation
If it's about the trust issue, I understand too but I would at least tell it to Sayu directly that I want nothing to do with her, instead of nothing, but I guess I'm more humane than Nina

>> No.68547623

>>68545684
She namedropped Nina during that spiel, but that was the gist of what she said Nina told her. She did say that other livers told her similar things so it’s likely a shared sentiment.
The entire thing is a massive woman moment from both parties in my opinion. Sayu shouldn’t have specified who spoke to her but I get that she was emotional when she spoke about it. Cutting off all contact with her is also a bit of an overreaction from Matara but still understandable since there was a breach of trust. I just don’t see the big issue coming from either side I guess

>> No.68547712

>>68547372
This actually reflects on Pomu really well. If she ends up joining them I retract this comment.

>> No.68547744

>>68544887
Because she's mad that she became irrelevant and is still hated by most niji fans, she wants the support that Doki's getting rn

>> No.68547819

>>68542168
I don't really want to be banned over this stupid shit by mentioning her life situation, but it makes me believe that she is actually a shitty person.
We may not hear about it, but I bet they have other reasons to dislike her
Also she collabed with Depressed Doxxagi

>> No.68547829

>>68547622
And yet Sayu regrets doing all of that, and wishes she never did any of this, it's something she will live with forever and she doesn't want to because she knows she's not that person. The only thing I admit she did wrong was reaching out to her too early at the heat of the moment. Because emotions are high and we can't think when given the time to.

>> No.68547838

>>68547417
Thanks anon, I was pretty sure she actually dropped her name mid-rant but I dind't have any proof. Pretty shitty of her considering it was on the day Matara debuted too.

>> No.68547881

>>68547417
Well shit. While I do support Sayu, if Nina did say this to her in confidence, even if the message was positive, it was shitty to leak. Regardless, in all genuine honesty, Sayu just needs to let everything Nijisanji related just go, since it's not healthy for her, and neither her fans nor her antis want to watch her trying to desperately cling onto it.

>> No.68547920

>>68547622
That's why I stopped believing Nina was just being pissy and now think she's probably more conniving and calculating than people give her credit for. Would actually fit with her background of being a tankie, the rrat is more important than the truth to her.

>> No.68547935

>>68547417
So we've got this, the apology she made on False's recent stream, and Sayy saying in chat that she can't contact her now. Is there anything else?

>>68547819
>Also she collabed with Depressed Doxxagi
Her saying "I just wanted to give him one special night" is the most unintentionally funny thing I've heard a vtuber say.

>> No.68547937

>>68546997
It's understandable to feel upset at how different the community reaction was, but she needs to move on instead of comparing herself to Doki.

>> No.68547960

>>68542168
I got jumpscared by the cockroach wtf

>> No.68548003

>>68542898
She's too menhera, unfortunately. She's a liability, but isn't malicious.

>> No.68548054

>>68547881
Man you really just don't get it. Maybe NijiEN is where she truly felt like she was validated and accepted for who she was and she's perhaps besides herself because maybe she'll never ever find a group of people like this again? And by this, I'm not talking about the management, I'm talking of course about her coworkers. That's why she joined NijiEN in the first place. She needed a group of people she herself could trust, and now that that's all broken, she feels like nothing, and no matter who she interacts with, it won't ever be the same, how will people ever know who she really is and accept her for them?

>> No.68548087

>>68547829
That's fine, I don't disagree with you on that. My point is that Nina is being a snowflake when she could help someone who's at a low point in her life. Maybe she can't because of peer pressure from (ex)Nijis or perhaps Sayu is genuinely a bad person, but judging from her behavior I'm thinking it's the former

>> No.68548129

>>68548003
I think she's aware of that, but it's bad enough when it feels like thousands of other people think you are.
>>68547937
When did she compare herself to Doki though? All I see is her remorse for blowing it with her former friends.

>> No.68548184

>>68547584
We only know that applies to Nina, the rest of the coworkers probably either didn't bother or are staying away what with her currently volatile mental.

>> No.68548202

>>68547417
well it's a hard lesson but one sayu had to learn sooner or later.
there's a reason you dont burn bridges in the entertainment industry. it can hurt your reputation and you lose contacts. it extends beyond just the person who you burned, other people see it and know they dont want to be the one getting namedropped in your next video.
if you really need to shitpost about something, at the very least dont do it on your main...

>> No.68548227

Honestly the only reason I don’t watch Sayu anymore is because she streams too late at night for wagies like me

>> No.68548250

>>68547528
Judging from what I’ve seen of Nina she’s extremely professional when it comes to vtubing and is very open about it being a job, so I imagine cutting off Sayu for what she said is just business to her. Sayu spread information that was meant to be private and even putting aside any emotions tied to the issue it’s not a bad idea to see that from a business perspective and go “hey I don’t want to associate with someone like that”

>> No.68548298

>>68547819
It's funny that you avoid talking about her personal life for fear of being banned, and get mad at Nousagi without realizing that it makes you a hypocrite

>> No.68548364

>>68548087
I believe in the concept of time healing all wounds, Sayu just needs to be patient if anything. Maybe develop character and truly find herself, learn how to be honest with herself. Those are my real words of advice to her. The next step would be being honest with others. It's just a matter of when others will come to a common ground with her if she ever chooses to go down this path.

>> No.68548373

>>68548250
>spread information meant to be private
Fuck off. That's just retarded. Sayu was saying good things about her. Matara even came out and said the SAME FUCKING THING in her stream about how she felt she couldn't succeed on her own. This fucking little teenaged girl fucking "oh that's why she hates her because she said this at the lunch table and it was a secret and josh found out and" is just retarded fucking woman shit.

>> No.68548398

>>68545361
Even if i enjoy parrot,DN or the other guy i do think that its a bad idea for a talent to go near them. Their "job" is getting info out of potential news worthy people so they will always treat her like a source of income. Say hi and goodbye to them but don't get into their streams because they will do whatever they can to suck everything out of you. Its not personal, its just how they earn their bread

>> No.68548415

so matara is a mean hag ? Did she also bully selen? I think it's weird how the girls were comfortable enough to shit talk selen in front of her, this kinda painsts her as part of the "team"

>> No.68548467

>>68548184
Again, time was not on her side, and I condemn Sayu for doing this at the completely wrong time, but I don't think this means she has to give up. What I think she needs to do is actually PROVE to others she can be a different person, and then yes, wanting others to acknowledge that is important to her because knowing her, she may not have self-worth if others she cares about aren't willing to see it.

>> No.68548483

>>68547417
For context she was at least 30 days into her subathon I think? She was probably physically, emotionally and mentally exhausted and was annoyed by her chat and she started ranting about how her chat wasn't the same as Niji's hivemind chat

>> No.68548511

>Sayu has her own thing that's more or less working out for her now
>Still trying to weasel her way into this group that obviously has no interest in her whatsoever and/or actively dislikes her
On one hand, very sad. On the other hand, very funny.

>> No.68548530

>>68548398
What if she truly doesn't want to be that anymore? All I see in her tweet a few days ago is that.

>> No.68548568

Do we even know that Matara is mad about this in particular? Did Matara or Sayu ever say that, or is it just implied? Maybe she just thinks Sayu is a general reputational risk due to her naughty jokes.

>> No.68548569
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68548569

The psychology behind this is actually really simple.

If you treated Sayu like garbage a year ago, and right now are on Selen's side over the exact same shit, it forces you to come to terms with the fact that when it came to Sayu you were a bad person who dogpiled on a victim and helped her abusers. Recognizing a mistake of this magnitude is a HUGE ask on the ego for a regular person, nevermind for streamers, artists and/or twitter addicts who are already more self-absorbed than the average individual.

>> No.68548574

>>68548373
If you want to do a Sayu 2.0, be my guest. Learn from other's mistakes you schizo.
Sharing whatever just because it's "nice" will NEVER go down well.

>> No.68548620

>>68548574
Seethe and cope yeastie.

>> No.68548625

>>68547417
I feel like Nina literally said this on stream too at one point

>> No.68548651

>>68548569
I think Sayu felt like her ego got the best of her in the past and now she feels like she's at the lowest point in her life moralewise. Could be, maybe it's not the truth, but that's how I see it.

>> No.68548666

>>68545684
Nina fucking said that on stream before
what the fuck is that bitches problem

>> No.68548728

>>68548574
She is trying to, and will do anything what it takes to learn what real humility is, please give her a chance.

>> No.68548736

>>68548568
Matara was and is a calculating bitch before and after Niji. People don't see it yet but you'll see.

>> No.68548757

Why was Doki able to tell dramatourists to fuck off and move on with her life while Sayu can't?

>> No.68548767

>>68548530
Then she will show it and people can again choose if they want to watch her or not. At this point the only thing i see about this woman is the fact that she is using herself/letting herself be used as a bullet in shitstorms. She has her Genshin collab, just use that and continue building from there. For the love of God, stop going towards everybody who gives you just the slightest bit of attention. She is being vindicated but STILL used as a bullet

>> No.68548807

>>68548728
I don't have a problem with her, there's too much fog of war besides said incident. That schizo's attitude is harmful to Sayu herself though.

>> No.68548810

>>68548757
Is Doki getting stalked and harassed irl?

>> No.68548857

>>68548625
She did.

>> No.68548859

>>68548625
>>68548666
I've been saying this for months now but Nina is the type who would kick someone while they're down if it benefits her. She's very opportunistic but does a good job hiding that behind her mommy persona.

>> No.68548933

>>68548757
She needs to let go of it herself first, maybe take a vacation.

>> No.68548951

>>68548757
Doki didn't get her full doxx spread across Twitter for months and have an entire fanbase harp on an edgy joke she made a year ago

>> No.68549035

>>68548398
Yeah, you can say Parrot, DN, and FalseEyeD are contentious all you want, but can you REALLY be THAT surprised that she attached herself to them when they were the only people who treated her with any degree of basic human decency and actually listened to her or gave her the time of day after she'd been made a pariah?

>> No.68549042

>>68547920
>>68548859
>>68548736
You're going so hard that people will just say you're seething rather than being objective. Keep this up and people here will just start saying any Nina criticism is just coming from you, the legendary "Nina schizo".

>> No.68549057

>>68548767
And that's all she wants, for people to see that she can show it. You again, don't know how Sayu is really feeling here because if you've read her story, all she wanted in life was for people to acknowledge and trust her, she has none of this at the moment from people she would consider to be upstanding, and that's why it hurts. Quite frankly I don't know who trusts her at the moment, right now, I'm convinced that number is not even in the hundreds atm, and that's the scary part of it all.

>> No.68549163

>>68548859
Come on, I already think Sayu was the one who was in the wrong for leaking that bit of information against Matara's behalf, there's no need to keep blaming the other party for something Sayu herself most likely admits she did wrong on.

>> No.68549174

>>68549042
No need to worry, my posts will age like fine wine.

>> No.68549257

>>68549163
>most likely
She directly apologized to Nina when she went on Falseeyed's stream after Selen got terminated

>> No.68549277

>>68549035
What if she knows those people don't really care about her and are using her and she is now desperately trying to prove to others she isn't? I know it doesn't take a day to prove it, but come on now.

>> No.68549304

>>68546222
You are genuinely fucking schizophrenic and I have never posted on that shithole site in my life. It is insane that you have THAT much difficulty believing somebody could dislike your precious innocent Sayu who's probably reading this thread right now.

>> No.68549347

>>68549257
Again, she most likely did it at the wrong time. That's why I am upset at Sayu right now, because she didn't give Matara any time or space to process this.

>> No.68549449

>>68549347
I wasn't arguing against you, just saying that she definitely feels bad. Of course, asking for forgiveness doesn't mean you'll get it, and I wouldn't blame anyone for not forgiving.

>> No.68549450

>>68549304
She's a goddamn human for Christ's sake. You just refuse to admit that she's capable of learning from her costly mistakes in life and just want blood and revenge. Speaks volumes as to what kind of a person you are. Don't go anywhere near people.

>> No.68549501

>>68546222
Didn't Doki and Matara blocked her?

>> No.68549519

>>68549163
it’s not a one time thing, sayu repeatedly fucks up and then regrets it. I feel bad for her but I get why people who have something to lose from hanging around with her don’t. and that unfortunately leaves people who have something to gain at her expense. idk how to save her.

>> No.68549607

sayu named selen as one of her bullies
why would she pretend to be buddies with her now?

>> No.68549615

>>68549501
Matara probably, Doki no just ghosting

>> No.68549676

>>68549450
I've listed several different reasons why I dislike him and none of them have been good enough for you. Accusing me of being a lolcow user, a man or Rebecca in an attempt to discredit me is just infuriating and only makes me want to assert my opinion more so as not to be brushed off.

>> No.68549706

>>68549607
Nah she didn't, she only called out her gen.

>> No.68549716

>>68549519
What if she's actually willing to try things differently? What if she actually feels genuine remorse towards others and how she wronged them? What if it's just a matter of swallowing your own pride, taking the time to acknowledge herself, how she can correct her toxic behaviors, and then proceeding? Do you think that is how she can possibly save herself? I think so. It's going to take time and effort to pull it off.

>> No.68549837

>>68549676
When did I fucking do any of that? What are you talking about? I just ask you for the love of God acknowledge that Sayu is human and is capable of being a better person if she commits to it.

>> No.68549865

>>68548728
Nobody owes Sayu collabs just cause they used to work at the same shitty company.

>> No.68549921

>sayuschizos now moving onto other nijis to keep sabotaging her
damn, worse fanbase than Nazuna

>> No.68549932

>>68549837
He's an Aussie. That's completely different.
Unrelated to your post but it's irritating that all criticism of Luca is written off as being from men. Do I really need to post my tits just so people listen when I point out that a cocky guy is cocky?

>> No.68550051

>>68549865
When did I fucking imply that?
>>68549932
What does Luca have anything to do with this?

>> No.68550102

>>68550051
Genuinely, are you fucking with me?

>> No.68550129

>>68547623
The real problem is Sayu has attached herself to the hip of dramatubers.
She even went on one of their streams after news of Selen being terminated broke.
You'd have to be retarded to touch her with a 10 foot pole due to that.

>> No.68550194

>>68550102
I don't even know who you are faggot, I'm just asking you to give Sayu a damn break for once and acknowledge that as flawed as she is, she is capable of changing. You just don't want to admit it because you're only out for blood.

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There's only one person in NijiEN who deserves sympathy outside of Doki.
And that's Vivi.

>> No.68550269

>>68549501
Doki is just ignoring her

>> No.68550286

>>68550194
in what way? unless i missed something, she's only been talking about business stuff like merch, PO box, and new hashtags which is fine since she seems to want to just introduce people to her old/new brand.

>> No.68550318

>>68550129
And what if that's who she doesn't want to be associated with anymore?

>> No.68550335

>>68548666
Proof?

>> No.68550336

>>68550194
You're mixing convos anon

>> No.68550368

>>68542168
did you get let on the sinking yacht for this post anon

>> No.68550857

>>68550368
You're never going to be Sayu's next husband, give it up.

>> No.68550905

Why are Sayufags so schizo?

>> No.68550945

>>68550240
Scarle is a good girl.

>> No.68550961

Back to irrelevance sayu

>> No.68551019

>>68546242
I require another twitter space ASAP or I shall crumble into dust.

>> No.68551020

>>68550905
Why are Nijisisters so inhumane?

>> No.68551040

>>68550318
She's already got the sink of them on, just like every Niji part of Elira's clique. Good luck washing that off.

>> No.68551080

>>68550240
Love my xbox mix wife.
Sad that she only joined Niji in it's lowest point.

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68551116

>>68542168

NIJISANJI WAS FULL OF SUBHUMAN GARBAGE AND NOW VSHITSHOW IS FULL OF SUBHUMAN GARBAGE WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK

ALL THESE FAGGOTS INCLUDING SELEN ARE SELFISH LYING BACKSTABBERS AND WOULD SELL THEIR OWN MOTHER FOR A CRUMB OF CLOUT

YOU ARE LESS VALUEABLE THAN STRAYDOGS. AT LEAST DOGS KNOW WHAT LOYALTY IS

EXCEPT SAYU SHES AN ORPHAN

>> No.68551120

>>68551020
Sayu and Niji are literally that Mad Men meme, NO ONE thinks about her.

>> No.68551130

So if Zaion hadn't been canned (Ignoring whatever implications and presuppositions of management being different or better that may entail), what does NijiEN look like right now?

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>>68550945
Scarle choking Aster's dick down so hard atm.

>> No.68551360

>>68551130
People wouldn't have reacted half as badly to selen. The reason people know niji is garbage is because of how they fucked zaion.

>> No.68551438

>>68551130
Doki probably wouldn't have gotten anywhere NEAR the traction she's gotten. Because this would have been the first time they'd have smeared someone on the way out the door, rather than being a confirmation of everything Sayu said about them.

Like, instead of a YEAR of debate over stealth suspensions being a thing, them doing it to Selen would have been dismissed as a unique reaction to a unique situation rather than a pattern of conduct. There would still be a scandal, but it wouldn't be as universally one-sided.

>> No.68551513

>>68551130
Zaion would have made an attempt after being burned and branded a loser for her jokes, then graduate soon after. Branch implodes at roughly the same rate

>> No.68551516

The fact that Niji-related drama is still so active even between people who have already left the company really shows how even if you leave that it, it doesn't seem to leave you. Anycolor really likes to hire retards too though, anyone with a drop of maturity would just resolve shit like that privately.

>> No.68551623

>>68551516
They didn't graduate, they just transferred to the secret Nijisanji branch: NijiPTSD.

>> No.68551747

I don't dislike Sayu, but I'm starting to dislike all her "fans" demanding that everyone else go out of their way to help someone they didn't even know for a year.
It's not healthy to keep pushing this and isn't beneficial for anyone.

>> No.68551830

>It's been well over a year
>none of the people in this picture have even mentioned her in any capacity since leaving niji
>yet she still brings them up everytime a niji drama happens.
At some point you just have to give it up chief, none of these former niji's give any kind of shit about Zaion or how she got fired.
Just relish in the company that tried to slander you burning down and move on with your career.

>> No.68552049

>>68547819
>Also she collabed with Depressed Doxxagi
This made me lose the respect I had for her and dropped her immediately, imagine collabing with that faggot.

>> No.68552077

>>68551747
at least half of them are pretending nijikeks trying to force a narrative, true to their manipulative nature

>> No.68552303

>>68546222
No, Sayu needs to move-on. Ignore drama channels and anyone formerly associated with Nijisanji.

>> No.68552620

>>68552303
Perhaps, but it would be beautiful to see Doki give her a hug on stream.

But like Sayu said, "Beautiful dream."

>> No.68552707

>>68551747
Internet people want to cause more drama and hatred? What a shocker

>> No.68552766

>>68543212
great now sayu getting bred is in my mind. Thanks anon!

>> No.68552876

>>68548859
At the end of the day vtubing is a job and you need to put food on the table every day to stay alive and sayu is an unreliable variable. Associating with her provides them no benefit and risks them being in proximity her regular bouts of unprofessional behavior and losing portions of their viewerbase.

>> No.68552890

>>68548859
She is a communist, after all.

>> No.68553090

>>68551438
If it was selen being quiet for a month without the context of an obvious stealth suspension that ended with a termination notice that talks around her complaining about workplace conditions and then peppers in "by the way we had to talk to her emergency contact" the internet would have exploded. The fact this all trickled in slowly and we had time to digest it, with the rrats that turn out to be real etc, means that it is all less shocking than if we learned all at once that niji is nearly responsible for the death of a talent.

>> No.68553097

>>68548569
>over the exact same shit
It's not the same shit, Doki was the most popular female EN in the company and had 3 years of experience. Her transgressions were few and far between. She justifiably broke down and said some bad stuff (like asking ppl to reupload) after the management fucked up and blocked something she worked really hard on for seemingly no reason. Which they also lied about in the termination letter.
Sayu however was fairly new to the company and a constant yab machine, so Niji in their cynicism decided they don't wanna continue working with her, bc she probably won't conform to them.
Were both their termination letters spiteful and unnecessarily long? Yes. Were they both bullied and mistreated by people in the company? So far the evidence points to yes. But that's where the similarities end.

>> No.68553273

>>68553097
Most of her reported "yabs" were shit the company has had from other talents and never had a trouble with before or since, she had yabs but constant is beyond bullshit

>> No.68553303

>>68551438
I think your really overestimating how many people cared about Sayu getting fired.
This has the attention it does because it's Selen, someone who had built a large audience over years with very little bad will.

>> No.68553855

>>68552620
Time to cook up some R34# for Doki and Sayu...

>> No.68554181

>>68551040
But they don't care about her and are using her, what if she doesn't want to be anymore?

>> No.68554252

>>68551120
Good, no one should think about her right now. But allow her time to reinvent herself and for her to learn to be honest with herself, please?

>> No.68554340

>>68551747
1). It's way less than just a year
2). No one's demanding anything, just wishing to acknowledge that she can change into someone better

>> No.68554541

>>68548298
How is that even relevant? He'd be a hypocrite if he actually talked about her IRL stuff off stream while also shitting on her for interacting with DN.

>> No.68554645

>acknowledge that she can change into someone better
proof? being sad is not proof

>> No.68554842

>>68554645
Commitment to a new self. Only Sayu can do this. I know she can, but the question is if she will

>> No.68554899

>>68551137
so management is forcing scarle to collab with someone who is abusing her

>> No.68555082

>>68543019
>>68544120
I respect anyone who rhymes "little rascal" with "nibble on my asshole"

>> No.68555083

>>68550857
enna............

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>>68548364
The better thing for Sayu to do is to move on from Nina. Nina was at a low point by the end of her time at Nijisanji for sure, but she is by no means a frail victim either. She was the first to shine a spotlight on Ethyria's clique, and she still isn't punching down on her former employer either, she can stand up for herself.
I think the best thing for Sayu to realize is that Nina was probably just treating business associates as just that, business associates. It's cold but that's just how she is, she probably still hasn't collaborated with Indie Nina yet either despite now having the capabilities to do so. But she doesn't need to wastes her time on people like Nina, or even people who she probably doesn't have much in common with like Pomu or Selen. There are people like Shiina who are relatively popular who are willing to treat her with respect and give Sayu the time of day, Sayu needs to focus more on people like her, and Shiina, and a bunch of other Phase girls.

>> No.68556148

>>68542168
okay can someone tell me what the actual appeal of sayu/zaion actually is? like as a streamer. because all i seem to hear about her is her reputation as a drama baiter/whistle blower? cause from my outside impression, she strikes me as someone who refuses to move on. whether that's her fault or the fault of all of her fans who hold her up as a martyr, i don't know.

>> No.68556869

>>68556148
You do realize that your outside impression is based on drama involvement separated by significant amounts of time? She's quite a nice streamer in-between.

>> No.68556954

>>68542168
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existance on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike.

>> No.68557314

>>68556954
>existance

>> No.68557351

>>68556954
You know, False is going to have one hell of a day when some disturbed Dragoon murders Enna or one of her Aloupeeps.

>> No.68557472

>>68556869
i'm sure she is a very nice girl, and i didn't mean anything disrespectful by it. i'm just saying the only thing anyone ever wants to talk about is her relation to the drama.

if sayu wants to grow, she needs to find a way out from under that reputation. either by reining in her community, or finding a whole new niche in vtubing. whatever it is, i do wish her the best.

>> No.68557649

>>68542168
>Sister seething
What rrats win again?

>> No.68557985

>>68542168
AGAIN if doki ,Kuro or Matara don't talk with Sayu she is bad blood

>> No.68558473

>>68542168
>X screenshot
Go back

>> No.68559299

>>68557472
>the only thing anyone ever wants to talk about is her relation to the drama.
nta, but you can blame the Zaionfags, the sisters and the tribal wars between holofags and nijifags for that. It's impossible to talk about Sayu /here/, the well has been poisoned too much. You just have to look at this thread.

Sayu has been free from drama since she redebuted, she is a great streamer and fucking loves her community. The thing is that she never recovered from the harassment that she suffered when she got terminated from Niji, and she saw the Selen drama as her chance to get finally some justice. Turns out that life sucks and people won't just say they are sorry and give her a second chance, so she literally broke down. She has to move on, but she genuinely needs some help to do it.

>> No.68559584

>>68551137
It should have been me

>> No.68559637

>>68559299
She literally collabed with Depressed Doxxsagi fuck off

>> No.68559700

>>68559299
i'm very sorry to hear that, and again if she is genuine and true i do hope she finds a way forward. maybe she was looking for a second chance from the wrong place. just treat everyone in connection to this like a toxic boyfriend and cut contact.

>> No.68559774

>>68551120
Wasn’t he actually seething super hard though and that whole bit was bullshit?

>> No.68559819

>>68559700
>maybe she was looking for a second chance from the wrong place.
That's basically it, but she needs to realize that.

>> No.68559902

>>68559637
Deezpressed Nutsagi did nothing wrong. All he did is show public info available to anyone else who did the research. Like “oooh no, now everyone knows that Gawr Gura is Senzawa!” Get the fuck out of here lmao

>> No.68559976

>>68559774
The meme wasn’t made for people who watched the show

>> No.68560109

>>68542168
>my fav corpo is burning down
>at least sayu is still sad though
Nijifags are mentally psychopaths.

>> No.68560145

>>68554899
Pretty sure he doesn't need management to step in to force her to collab.
Just cry about how she's not collabing with him and that it hurts how much she's ignoring him and if she likes him she'd collab would be enough.

>> No.68560174

>>68560109
It nijiniggs what do you expect?

>> No.68560276

>>68559902
Yeah, people act like DN was dropping hard doxx, but it was just pedestrian PL posting.

>> No.68560352

>>68560109
>sayu is still sad
She had the door fucking opened up to join Vshojo and closed it herself.
She had the niji community letting her lean on their shoulder, and she decides to drama bait, invite DN over, and shit talk her mama over her 'low quality, rushed model'
She is hardwired to always fuck things up

>> No.68560596

>there's a sayu thread
>it's full of drama groomers
jesas, they are cursed

>> No.68560604

>>68560352
>Lean on her shoulder
Funny way of saying doxxing and slandering her all over twitter.

>> No.68560921

>>68560596
They are trying to deflect luca/aster rrats

>> No.68561781

>>68542917
Funny how the ones behind Niji's downfall are the poo on the loo. The natural enemies of the chinks. kek

>> No.68561784

>>68546242
she's so fucking cute it's unreal

>> No.68561929

>>68546504
Fuck you.

>> No.68561958

>>68547935
to this very day I do not know what the FUCK she meant by "one special night" because I refuse to take the low road and scream 'THEY FUCKED THEY FUCKED THEY FUCKED' from the rooftops

>> No.68562123

>>68559902
>>68560276
I agreed with your post, but then you had to go and defend the flip, fuck off post-Zaion newfag.
Literally all it takes is 5 minutes of waoru research to find that he was showing videos of kiara that completely crossed the line of "simple PL" into her straight up darkest moments.
I wont spoonfeed too much but his kiara video on patreon had the video where she was harrassed, and not the wrestling one it's much worse than that
I completely get behind supporting Sayu, but anyone who defends DN is worse than the lowest nijisister and kiwifucker anyday.

>> No.68564265

>>68542168
It's kind of embarassing to see Sayu forcefully insert herself into bad memories. If you truly like Sayu's streams, explain to me what makes her appealing without alluding to drama. Unless I'm sorely mistaken and her main draw IS drama, not video games.

>> No.68564602

>>68561958
She means the collab anon.
She literally meant that he was depressed so she hung out with him on stream in the form of a collab. She wanted to be nice and altruistic and help someone in need like she wanted to be helped.
But the way she worded it was funny so all the nijiniggers screamed OMG THEY'RE FUCKING!
They live almost 10,000 miles apart.
It's tedious to say the least.

>> No.68565289

>>68564265
I really liked her as Zaion. Was a breath of fresh air and more genuine than any other NijiEN liver, and I kinda knew it wasn't going to last. She was snarky but kind, high energy, talking at about ten thousand miles per hour, and all around fun to watch.

Sayu... Isn't quite the same character. There's bits of her their of course, but she's still snarky, but not kind at all, less tongue in cheek anger and more actual anger, which isn't my thing. There's people who are into that, of course, but really I hate it when she goes into the drama. She's just depressing to watch when she goes there.

>> No.68565462

>>68548859
It's actually eerie how much of a chameleon she is, I gotta say. Maybe this is just me being a schizo since Kuro unfollowed Doki the moment he met up with them in Japan.

>> No.68565958

>>68542168
this person seems equally menhera as mike the cat.

>> No.68566053

>>68565289
Zaion was optimistic and hopeful for the future, despite still dealing with the pain of divorce.
Sayu has massive amounts of Trauma, it isn’t surprising that she is more menhera.

>> No.68566156

>>68548859
wasn't this fact pretty well known since before her debut when people dug up shit on her past? I dunno why anyone is surprised she's actually a piece of shit

>> No.68566269

>>68564265
I've got her Palworld stream queued up right now. Not watched it yet, but I'm betting watching her yell at her pet slaves will be entertaining.

>> No.68566656

>>68565289
Honestly Sayu could have retained her Zaion viewers if she just streamed regularly on her initial return.

>> No.68566769

Sayu is basically like Twitter and Hillary Clinton. Everyone goes
>Oh yeah she was totally right
But nobody actually wants her around

>> No.68566899

>>68560145
more like
>Look what you fucking did, you showed Luca?and now everyone saw that conversation you retard, god fucking dammit... okay lets do like this we will do a collab something to show we still friends and lets tweet something together to clear the air, jesus fucking christ why you're so fucking stupid
insert alot ofscarle sobbing sounds and barely audible "im sorry"s in between this poorly written rant

>> No.68567275

>>68545492
she was never an EN member.
i could understand not-Yugo but that one is weird

>> No.68567776

>>68566656
Yeah, she really killed her momentum with the long delay + waiting on new model + using the shitty chibi
Why didn't she simply use her old model? It was pretty good.

>> No.68568026

>>68567776
She did? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVhFy_IRS8U

>> No.68568035

>>68567275
Not weird at all. She collabed with niji EN more than half of iluna+ recruits.

>> No.68568192

>>68568035
she's not EN and never was. that's like saying Oliver was EN.
it's weird as hell. if the artists is going to include former NIJIENs then where is notYugo

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>>68568026
That was before she was terminated. I meant the period after termination when things were the hottest. She didn't stream much and whenever she streamed it was that ugly chibi.

>> No.68568735

>>68568192
She desperately wanted to be though. She never talked to ID members (not entirely her fault) and never spoke in anything but English. She collabed constantly with en until mysta left

>> No.68568752

>>68567275
You're being intentionally dense, it's very obvious why even if you don't agree.

>> No.68569259

>>68568328
Noooooooooo? she was terminated March 2023 dumbass https://twitter.com/NIJISANJI_World/status/1634147534795841536?lang=en

And she streamed plenty, 69 days in a row in fact, /vt/ just didn't care because it was during her subathon and this place has an irrational hatred of all things twitch.

>> No.68569704

>>68568752
i'll admit that i'm more dense than concrete
still doesn't make sense to me
>>68568735
that still doesn't make her EN in any way

>> No.68569740

>>68569259
>69 days in a row in fact,
Imagine spending so fucking much time in a row streaming, I would go crazy. How would you even masturbate or anything like that?

>> No.68569887

>>68548250
It's not just that. while it's totally understandable why sayu did it associating with the likes of DN probably did her a lot of unspoken damage.
loose lips sink ships and when someone is known to be loose with their lips while keeping company the rest of the industry avoids like the plague for good reason it makes her radioactive by association.

if sayu had just quietly got her grind on this last year and kept out of trouble, kept things professional, and focused on streaming she'd be in a much better position right now. there's a very real possibility that she would have started to be brought back into the fold at the mid-corpo level had she been professional and avoided the dramatubers.

>> No.68570348

>>68569887
Easy to say, you weren't being harassed on the internet

>> No.68571061

>>68547092
>>68546875
>>68547584
This feeling fucking sucks. I know because i've been going through it for almost 2 years now trying to get back into my close friend circle who essentially unperson'd and persona non grata'd me after a really bad mistake/falling out we had. I didn't think it was worth throwing away our 12 year old friendships but they're all still great friends and won't even acknowledge my attempts to reach out and fix things even though I've changed. I wont give up though because i know they're not callous people

>> No.68572390

>>68554645
It doesn't matter. I've been in this situation shes in, you can change, you can work on yourself, you can improve but people wont give you a chance to prove you're better. You're your one mistake forever and ever.

>> No.68572863

>>68570348
Something being easy or not has nothing to do with it. dealing with the likes of DN is a red flag for most of the industry. if you have a reputation for being loose with info on top of that most people will choose to avoid you for their own good.
doing those two things makes avoiding sayu basic opsec. sucks for sayu but the world just works that way.
and yeah I've never been in the position of harassed like that on the internet. I have however blown my entire life apart and know what it takes to redeem my reputation. so I know where sayu's gone wrong. trust and rebuilding it is thankless, painful, and time consuming. you won't even be aware of progress made until one day far down the road people start ever so slowly letting you back in.

>> No.68572864

>Sayufags are all just projecting their own insecurities

>> No.68573052

>>68569259
Yeah she was terminated March 10th 2023 and you linked a VOD from February 6th 2023. Who's the dumbass?
She needed streams within first few days/weeks after termination if she wanted proper momentum.

>> No.68573465

>>68569887
Yeah, there was a lot of people who had a lot of good will for Sayu because they realized Nijisanji did her dirty and were looking forward to giving her a chance or even supporting her but dropped her when they saw the collab with DN.
People absolutely despise that faggot for selling dox of holos and there's simply no excuse for associating with someone like that in many eyes.

>> No.68573943

>>68554181
It's her fault for going to them in the first place.
If you keep getting used by multiple people, the problem becomes you.

>> No.68574121

>>68570348
That's completely irrelevant. She managed to stream for most of that subathon without his presence. The collab with doxfag wasn't necessary by any means. She lost shitload of potential viewers by deciding to do that and every-single-fucking-body here knew it was a terrible move. What did she gain in return?

>> No.68574344

>>68565958
not yet but she'll get there

>> No.68574755
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>>68545228
>It's almost like there is a reason nobody likes her.

>> No.68575070

>>68545236
Associating with racist pedophiles who don't know when to shut up is generally bad for branding, shocking as that may sound.

>> No.68575172

>>68575070
But enough about Enna.

>> No.68576036

>>68545081
I've never been a fan of Nina, her personality has always rubbed me the wrong way from debut, but honestly she's in the right here. If you can't have the basic decency to keep private conversations off stream, then she's under no obligation to support Sayu.

>> No.68576499

>>68574755
>NOOO SHE MADE A RAPE JOKE AGAINST A FICTIONAL VIDEO GAME CHARACTER OMMMGGG!!!
You should be euthanized.

>> No.68576725

>>68545684
are you fucking kidding, this was all it was, people make it out like Sayu leaked that Nina wanted to kill herself. Nina is really holding a grudge over this, fucking roach.

>> No.68576963

>>68545812
>Nina literally bullied her after getting access to the clique
I believe it

>> No.68577195

>>68546222
Sayu's first reaction to Selen getting terminated was to go on a dramatuber's stream and clout chase.
Doki would be insane to associate with Sayu.

>> No.68577344

>>68546222
Why would she? She probably never talked to her anyway, and now they should be all chummy just because both tried killing themselves while in burakku company? Idk.

>> No.68577416

>>68576725
Yup, but no one really cares enough to actually look into it (understandable), so bad actors can keep running with their narrative and people buy it.

>> No.68577429

>>68559299
It's not that she wants people to say they're sorry to her or absolve her for her sins, but she simply wants people to understand that she isn't the person she used to be and that she does want a second chance. And moving on will be very hard so as you have to live with the mistakes you've made forever. The fact that few if any people understand where her real pain is, that's the biggest thing people leave out, and I think there needs to be more awareness of this.

>> No.68577508

>>68559700
She was the toxic one. The fact that she won't get a chance to shake that toxicity off from others is the real earthquake of it all.

>> No.68577548

>>68577344
>She probably never talked to her anyway
why, is Selen a bad senpai?

>> No.68577717

Sisters really mad after this Luka leak lmao. Gotta lash out at anyone they can. Pathetic.

>> No.68577758

>>68566053
Because she's self-aware albeit deeply flawed. Living with being that kills.

>> No.68577828

>>68548054
She ain't gonna fuck you bro

>> No.68577885

>>68572864
Must be great being perfect huh?

>> No.68577904

>>68542168
I'm in for cheesy shit but this made me have a gag reflex.

>> No.68577951

She's so pathetic

>> No.68578148

>>68577951
Not as much as you.

>> No.68578902

>>68565289
>more genuine
As a Pomudachi that is such bullshit. Sayu wasn't even half as genuine and entertaining as her

>> No.68579306

Sayu's situation sucks but she should move on.
>Join corpo
>They fuck you over
>Corpo throws you under the bus
>other talents do the same
>No one but 1 or 2 defends her
She had no choice but to speak because if things were left the way it was Niji's narrative would have won. It's 2024, we've seen how things play out when people do the "right" thing and let things pass.

>> No.68579422

>>68542898
Isn’t the point of her tweet acknowledging that she is not part of the team? (And honestly why would she be? She was there for like a month)

>> No.68579484

>>68579306
Neutral third party here, but wasn’t part of her beef with niji that they wouldn’t let her play on her old genshit account?

>> No.68579759

>>68578902
love me pommers

can't beat the pommers

unironically the best vtuber to ever live

That said I did really like Zaion, she became the third NijiEN I watched regularly after a year+ of watching nothing but Pomu and occasionally Selen. For me it was Pomu > infinity super saiyan kamioshi power gap > Selen (forma variety) > Zaion > Selen (forma apex).

>> No.68579788

>>68542168
I'll be honest. I feel bad for her. Joining Nijisanji was probably the worst thing to have happened to her.

>> No.68579866

>>68579484
They approved her account, she streamed with it, and made plans to use it in her upcoming streams. Management then told her she wasn't allowed to anymore after she already streamed it and told everyone her plans.

>> No.68582134

>>68542168
She wasn't there long enough to warrant much sentiment. Really, I won't be surprised if ex-Nijis found her to be more of a nuisance than a work partner. Despite how horrible Niji handled her situation, her personality, humor, and behavior were simply not meant to last with those type of people.

And I like Sayu. But even I think she should just turn away and move on with her life. They don't like you like that, senpai.

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>>68582134
That's the saddest part of it all. Sayu probably thought that she had more of a connection to her old coworkers than she actually had. In reality, most of them just probably view themselves as coworkers or acquaintances at most, with only a small handful of people in NijiEN actually being at the point where they can consider themselves actual "friends".
It's not late though, there are people that actually care for Sayu like Shiina and Airi in Phase. Hell, she's probably closer to people like Silvervale and Milky than she is to the Nijis. For the sake of her mental health, she needs to prioritize the people that actually care for her and who actually may have more in common with her.

>> No.68583112

>>68542168
This bitch really has the audacity to say that, god she's pathetic

>> No.68583527

>>68571061
Nigga stop.
They don’t want to be your friend and harassing them isn’t going to change anyone’s mind. Just leave them alone.
Nobody owes you a second chance no matter how much you think you’ve changed.

>> No.68583558

>>68582788
>most of them just probably view themselves as coworkers or acquaintances at most
This big time. I get why she thought she had a connection with the ex-niji but she was barely there. The sooner she moves on and ignores all niji drama the better. Sure zaion was a major player in exposing niji but that's it and she needs to realize she doesn't need to do more.
It's like thinking the random person you did a project with in class is your best friend.

>> No.68583584

>>68569740
>set stream to sleeping with your avatar on screen with eyes closed
>fuck off and do whatever you need to

>> No.68583608

>punching down is very, very cool and based

>> No.68583761

She really needs to stop visiting 4chan and focus on streaming with her fanbase.

It's really hard to approach her, especially if people look at her and there's always a problem.

It's tiring to hang out with these type of people

>> No.68583874

Bro what? Sayu is still visiting 4chan? I don't even recommend mentally stable people to visit this place, someone like Sayu would be mentally destroyed

>> No.68587860

>>68583112
back to twitter, woman

>> No.68588633

>>68566899
this got me kinda hard

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