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Mi nijioshi gained a total of 0 dollars from my support. She could've expended it on her honeymoon and i would feel less cucked

>> No.68534335
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>>68534248
bitch what? idgi

>> No.68534345

>>68534248
jajajaja

>> No.68534484

>>68534248
she invested it all back into projects most of which niji shot down

>> No.68534642

>>68534248
eres tontisimo

>> No.68534745

>>68534484
If she invests this much as an indie things are looking pretty good for the dragoons (or whatever they're called now).

>> No.68534856

>>68534335
22nd time
Ennacuck how much are you getting paid?

>> No.68534888

>>68534248
I'm more surprised she only made 200K. That seems low for an 800K sub channel.

>> No.68535217

>>68534888
Nijisanji takes 100% Membership payment.
Nijisanji takes 98% merch sales.
Nijisanji takes 50% Super chats/Donations.
The fact she even had 200,000 to spend is frankly amazing since she lives in Canada's New York.

>> No.68535484

>>68534745
freebirds :^)

>> No.68535700

>>68535217
100% of memberships? That's fucking crazy, I knew about the 2% meme but holy shit.

>> No.68535748

>>68535217
>Nijisanji takes 100% Membership payment
you should be kidding

>> No.68535760

At least we got some nice music videos...

>> No.68535772

>>68535700
If it's crazy, that's probably because it is.

>> No.68535818

>>68534248
Look up average yacht prices and tell us what % of Riku's yacht was paid by you anon, since that's where the money went.

>> No.68535864

>>68534248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwqGz930MmU
>my mother scolded me for spending too much money last year, I spent $200k and so didn't increase my savings at all
>clearly this means Nijisanji didn't pay her anything and it was all spend on streaming related activities and not that Selen brought a bunch of designer crap

>> No.68536019

>>68535864
If you watch the actual stream, she says she specifically spent $200k on projects.

>> No.68536175

>>68535818
why is everyone treating Riku like some kind of moustache twirling villain? He probably has no idea this was going on, it's the manager's fault.

>> No.68536258

>>68534248
How come everybody leaving Nijisanji is relatively poor?

>> No.68536327

>>68536175
I don't consider him a "real" villain in any of this. just a profiteer who created a company he couldn't control, with staff he couldn't manage, with rules he didn't understand and with employees he never vetted himself.

>> No.68536505

>>68535700
The fact that you believe everything so easily is terrifying what a idiot

>> No.68536513

>>68536258
Because:
A) Nijisanji doesn't pay them a salary,
B) Hijisanji takes about 60-75% of all their total earnings.
C) Nijisanji forces their livers to pay, out of pocket, for assets, music videos, streaming tech, rigging and studio time. at Their studio.
D) Most Livers have at least one off stream job to survive on, unless they're a goss earner, in which case the wholesale theft of their money isn't as massive.

>> No.68536584

>>68536175
He's the most glaringly obvious face of the company compared to the managers who are mostly unknown unless you dig through japanese linkedin pages, who else are we supposed to direct our frustrations at?

>> No.68536655

>>68536505
Maybe nijisanji shouldn't have made such things so believable.

>> No.68536656

>>68535864
That is tax deductible as a business expense and not a real loss.

>> No.68536662

>>68534248
NO Selen was stupid enough to not know how to properly manage her money and spend it all on projects that's different what she needs is an accountant.

>> No.68536694

>>68535217
She must have generated a positive feedback loop through the reinvestment of her personal funds into her channel.
Imagine the potential profits if niji actually supported her instead of stonewalling and savotaging her.

>> No.68536696

>>68535217
>Nijisanji takes 100% Membership payment
WTF?! THAT'S INSANE!!

>> No.68536703

>>68536656
You don't understand how taxes work.

>> No.68536858

>>68536655
Maybe you should learn to have a brain imagine the level of stupidity you must have to sign a contract and stay for more than a year with those earnings
Same for you anon >>68536696

>> No.68537019

Imagine having contracts this predatory and STILL not beating revenue expectations

>> No.68537068

>>68534248
Doesn't making zero profit just mean that she broke even? That's what I assumed when I watched it, also in her old videos she made merch and sold it at cost and said that she was okay with losing a bit. I just assumed that she was just doing what she has always done, but now at a higher budget. The Mr Beast strategy.

>> No.68537321

>>68537068
Yes. It means she took the money she got from Niji and reinvested it into more projects for Niji. It's not that weird for an indie, but it is extremely cucked to do for a massive corporation.

>> No.68537481

>>68536858
Were talking about women here, of course they'd do it.

>> No.68537643

>>68534248
>Investing all the 200k profit from her job into MV and shits and crying about not gaining any profit.
Women is retarded

>> No.68537702
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>>68534248
What's being lost in the sauce is the project Nijisanji canceled after Selen already spent the money...

Nijinigs will come in here and try to act like Last Coffee was the first instance of events and that Selen became a loose cannon overnight. They will ignore the 3 years leading up to that of canceled projects and broken promises by Nijisanji that lead to Last Coffee being the straw that broke her. They will ignore AR event cancelation and how the entire branch went on hiatus afterwards. They will ignore the near annual graduation and termination announcements.

They will project and say but Holos protect Cover while ignoring the hundreds of instances where the fans rallied against Cover in defense of their oshis. The problem isn't that Hololive fans are attacking you the problem is they can't fathom supporting a company that acts the way Nijisanji does.

But Nijinigs never change they'll always blame everyone else. And don't tell me otherwise I have dealt with you fags long enough to know how you act because you are all predictable.

tl;dr I think Nijisanji sucks.

>> No.68537786

>>68536655
They also eat babies.

>> No.68537862

>>68534248
El imbécil apenas tiene para comer y le dona dinero a prostitutas emocionales que se hacen pasar por chicas anime.

JAJAJAJA

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>>68537702
I'm still trying to wrap my head around the whole thing surrounding the VRChat worlds. They're free worlds, on a free service, doing nothing but promoting your company, with everything custom-made for Nijisanji, paid out of pocket by a member of Nijisanji, approved by Nijisanji, and the fact that there's multiple of them means that's 2 ways for VRChat's algorithm to just randomly show it to people, or even just for people to randomly find and make it Le Comfy Kawaii Anime World#24151 and promote your company without you ever spending a single dime. There are so many layers of it being a good thing for Nijisanji that it might as well be equivalent to you getting handed a briefcase of thousands of dollars with absolutely no catch.

Yet they shut them both down after several months. And then reopened them after Selen put even more money into them. And then closed them again.

Fucking WHY?

>> No.68538114

>>68535217
>Nijisanji takes 100% Membership payment.
They take 50% like Hololive
>Nijisanji takes 98% merch sales.
Uncertain, but most likely true after some leaks
>Nijisanji takes 50% Super chats/Donations.
True, unless is streamlabs

But is still good money if you considered that she had 200k USD to use on projects, beside her living cost and her buying unrelated stuff.

Which easily goes up to 250k USD yearly for being part of NijiEN, all of this by just playing games, even low CCV nijiEN vtubers must be making 70k-100k USD a year.

>INB4 NDF, Sister, Ok Enna

>> No.68538248

>>68538114
>Source: my ass

>> No.68538915

>>68538248
>Source: Your cock sucking mother

>> No.68538961

>>68538248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYnAcln5Eqs
Even if you wanna assume she's lied about everything, at the very least this implies she gets membership money to donate/"donate".

>> No.68538985

>>68538915
But enough about scarle

>> No.68538994

>>68537643
ANYCOLOR IS BLACK
BOOTLICKER IS YOU AND ESL

>> No.68539085

>>68538114
>hey take 50% like Hololive
That's not a good thing
>Uncertain, but most likely true after some leaks
This is a horrible thing
>True, unless is streamlabs
also not a good thing
Since they provided literally 0 benefits at all, every cent is stolen.

>> No.68539525

>>68536019
>$200k on projects
No she said that she loves to commission artists. You make it sound ominous by saying projects when she literally just blew everything into paying le artists. She was so proud to introduce her artist friends to skeb.

>> No.68539892

>>68537862
I'm sorry anon but someone has to tell you : Tienes toda la razon pero aqui no se habla español asi que te regesas a tu hilo de mierda en español a llorar por owozu o aprendes ingles maldito mandril codos roñosos don't let the door hit you in the ass

>> No.68539902

>>68539525
I used "projects" because that's a fine enough umbrella term for anything from skebs to the cover we know of for sure and likely a bunch of other stuff we've either never seen or I can't think of.
It's pretty safe to assume Selen (and likely most other Niji livers) have been footing the bill for anything that has been published on their channels.

>> No.68540224

>>68538961
It doesn't say anything about a 50% fucking liar

>>68538114
other streamers have said that Niji takes 20% of the supas and I guess it is the same as the donations, this topic was already discussed when Mysta said about the 2% there was a whole thread on reddit with comments from various talents and their experiences.

>> No.68540461

>>68538109
Unironically just to punish selen

>> No.68540499

>>68540224
I thought that Google takes the biggest cut

>> No.68541377

>>68538109
Japanese business men
>"Why do we have our branding on this thing if we aren't actively profiting from it?"
>"VRchat should pay Nijisanji to have our branding on their platform!"

>> No.68542306

>>68541377
Yeah jp business and marketing types love limited time anything, promotes FOMO. Consider tickets to virtual events that entitle you to a single viewing and other limited time digital goods.
And of course there's also tons of examples where companies get free promotion from their own dedicated fans and they'll come down hard to stop it - like how Nintendo used to be so much worse.

>> No.68542466

>>68542306
But if people can have nijisanjiEN on vrchat they will obviously stop watching and supporting our livers!!!

>> No.68543797

>>68539892
Lmao, so you are a mexichango, even more pathetic.

>> No.68543953

>>68538114
Isn't it 200k canadian dollars?
Also assuming none of that came from savings

>> No.68544520

>>68543953
She more then likely had to convert to USD since no one takes our rainbow monopoly money seriously, not even other canadians.

>> No.68544687

>>68544520
She even said she didn't want to be paid in monopoly money for the merch they're setting up for her.

>> No.68546018

>>68544687
She would rather get paid on sketches for future projects

>> No.68549063

It just puts into perspective how big a cut nijien is taking.

>> No.68549686

>>68534248
too bad, riku wont waste his money

>> No.68552209

>>68549686
he's a smart man

>> No.68552244

>>68534248
DIOS MIO! AYE AYE AYE

>> No.68553262

>>68535217
>Canada's New York.
C'mon, it's Canada's Seattle.

>> No.68553800

>>68538109
Hololive did the same thing, but handled it a little better.

Basically, they don't want another 3D product competing with their in house stuff or diluting their brand.

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