/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Wow, so it was just a literal, overblown nothingburger that has died down within 24 hours.

[Anonymous No.]

Pretty much.
Except it traumatized an entire branch.

[Anonymous No.]

What the fuck did you think it would be other than a traumatized girl trying to get back at it and laughing through the tears

If you thought Riku Tazumi would come on stream and announce the dissolution of Nijisanji or something dramatic to happen, you are retarded

If you want to see how Nijisanji is doing, keep an eye open for graduations and terminations, the streams aren't going to be what fuels the drama

[Anonymous No.]

Had my suspicions once I learned of the BPD thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>>68511151
>>68511469
NDF troll dramafags in full force

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
So true Enna
#SinkTheYacht

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
she literally gave us no new info to bait with
wait a stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511238
/thread
nothing ever happens

[Anonymous No.]

thats one of the symptoms of a person with BPD shows, always blame others for her mistake she made

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511238
I have no idea what anyone expected. It was a normal selen stream which will be followed by normal selen streams. She has never been the one instigating the drama, that was all nijisanji's crazy statements.

[Anonymous No.]

That's all folks! Tune in next month for Rosemi's graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511585
No new info to give just confirmed what was already known.
Yes, niji is a scam.
Yes, the suicide was real.
Yes it was because of bullying.
And yes, Niji did want to try and cover it up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Doki is forgiving and merciful.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
If a lawsuit is on the table then her lawyers won't want her dropping info before court

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511839
>ruins dozens of careers with menhera suicide bait shit instead of handing out her resignation or lawyering it up to get her vindication on the one person responsible
She’s a fucking trainwreck and her DBF are reality TV mouthbreathers

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Selen aka DokiBird swap the thanos snap for a nuclear winter.
>NDF
STILL A NOTHINGBURGER GUYYYYSSS

[Anonymous No.]

Several NijiEN members are still MIA and I imagine quite a few of them are starting to have a real problem with how their management has been acting. There's going to be quite a bit of shaking up before the whole thing actually settles down.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512026
There is no career future in Niji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512104
There's no future career in any company that knows you weaponized suicide in public

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512026
>instead of handing out her resignation
But she did hand in her resignation, but Niji tried to pull the classic no, you can't quit because we are firing you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511622
post broken pussy enna

[Anonymous No.]

Is this the NDF hugbox thread? How're you little fellas holding up?

[Anonymous No.]

Lets turn to our regular scheduled BLACK COMPANY. They are streaming from a BLACK COMPANY. Hey Enna, Hey Millie, who are you going to try and bully today?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511622
>always blame others for the mistake they made
Livers mirrors the corporate

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512241
And normally that’s resolved with sabotage through willing incompetence, not failsuicide and shitting on your co-workers’ bed. I’ve had to deal with workspace harassment several times before, there’s things you do and things you don’t do, and most of the latter involve not harming your friends and acquaintances

[Anonymous No.]

You guys don't want to know what the next rrat is going to be if JP covers up for EN. It isn't an old one it was predicted on New Years along with a bunch of others rhat came true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512221
And all these could've been avoided had management didn't do a retard and made a 3 pages tantrum which basically says "Look, JP nikis, we're innocent, fuck you EN nikis though"

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
all damage is good damage

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512410
no need to project fears from your own failed suicide, anon

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512410
All's fair if she has been harmed. The corpo and the drones following it's orders are in the same bed and they can both get fucked.
Dry you eyes now, nijisis.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512221
Absolute woman post. Whichever male Niji you're here to defend, they'll never be your bf. No one will.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512293
At this point, it's faster to destroy NijiEN by siding with the NDF.

[Anonymous No.]

There are people in this thread that think everyone will return to normal and stream. Lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512410
Sorry you work in a black corpo, Enna.

Please succeed where Selen failed

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512475
If I was a menhera millionaire, you’d take my side, but since I’m someone with far less money and I’m disagreeing you’re saying dumb shit because I didn’t pretend to kill myself to get attention.
>>68512492
>>68512502
Unemployed hands posted this.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
just wait

[Anonymous No.]

selen has beautiful princess disorder, and all ennaschizos are fags

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512671
We already had the LK bombshell in the morning and the Iluna emergency meeting after that discord screenshot poppued up /here/

Can't wait to see what else happens tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>mass unsubs
>boycotts from clippers
>boycotts from third party merch sellers
>lost HYTE partnership
>nothingburger

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512947
>mass unsubs
You mean, less of 1% of subs?
>boycotts from clippers
You mean those 3 sub 1k subscriber clipping channels? Lmao
>boycotts from third party merch sellers
You mean those who sold almost nothing and weren't even recognizable?
>lost HYTE partnership
Ah, yes, those 3 pc cases that would sell 100 pieces at most, lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>had to lawyer up merely to graduate without getting sued by the corpo

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512635
>still projecting about work
just get a better job that doesn’t make you suicidal

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513112

Hi Millie!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512635
Maybe you should try? Then people might actually care about you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512448
Management pre-empted a hostile disrutive employee already going nuclear, spreading rumors, and trying to get others to support her behind their back.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512947
It helps that #SinkTheYacht is mainstream opinion now too kek. lethal amount of copium in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513112
You forgot the fan merch company that posted one of those statements and sold all their niji merch for a total of $2000.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>acts like a boss bitch
>immediately tries to rope from the slightest controversy for pity

many such woman moment cases

600ccv this time next month after the 10th apex spam in a row

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513112
>lost HYTE partnership
>Ah, yes, those 3 pc cases that would sell 100 pieces at most, lmao
that's a lot for the three runts it featured, this isn't the own you think it is sister.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513264
Mainstream as in now you have mainstream mouthbreathing react streamers like Asmongold openly saying that all VTuber companies are black companies and most of the industry should be illegal. This is why the western VTuber fandom is the worst thing that has happened to the industry.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512410
First of all the suicide attempt happened first, her trying to hand in resignation and Niji deciding to fire her instead was result of that, not the cause.
Second of all it's your precious company that first made a public statement about bullying that threw other livers under the bus so go complain to them.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513426
definitely not niji’s fault for this

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>he thinks it's over
Boy, it's just getting started

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513112
>those 3 pc cases that would sell 100 pieces at most
NDF so desperate to downplay their losses that they imply the talents can't push merchandise
Yikes!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513112
coping this hard is like saying:
>yeah, I got dicked hard, but at least it wasn't THAT big

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513644
>>68513346
>>68513710
Proof that Hyte is profitable? Oh, right none.
>>68513309
Also this, lmao.
>sells out entire stock of niji merch
>just $2000
You coping dramafeeding holobronies are pathetic.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513799
post sticky bloody pussy enna

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513799
I'm sorry you didn't got your case aloupeep

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
NDF is out in force today huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513799
>just $2000
Sold at cost. Compare the listed prices to similar Holo merch which is anywhere from 2-4x the price

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512221
I don't know if it's multiple retards or it's just (You) samefagging under every single fucking thread but holy fucking shit "weaponized suicide" you are beyond retarded. Please stop breathing with your mouth.

She did hand out her fucking resignation, first tweet of her literally said "requested to leave on a more neutral term on Jan 26th."
They most definitely didn't give a single fuck, instead they probably saw the whereisselen tag and decided to fucking terminate her in Feb 5th. And don't even forget she only found that out at the same day so these retards wanted to keep silencing her for longer. Or else explain why the fuck would they ignore the request of her leaving for 10 days?

And she is lawyering it up behind the scene as she fucking said it on stream. It's not hard to understand she can't say more than she could on stream unless you are brain damaged.

If (You) are not getting money for being a retarded NDF here literally go outside and seek help. Or you can finish what selen didn't accomplish.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514199
>I don't know if it's multiple retards or it's just (You) samefagging under every single fucking thread but holy fucking shit "weaponized suicide" you are beyond retarded. Please stop breathing with your mouth.
What else could it be? Shes diagnosed BPD, that is literally most of what they do.
>She did hand out her fucking resignation, first tweet of her literally said "requested to leave on a more neutral term on Jan 26th.
Management obviously does not want to lose their biggest liver, and they were willing to let her stay despite her breaking contract numerous times, but she refused to be honest with her fans about why the MV was privated.
>And she is lawyering it up behind the scene as she fucking said it on stream. It's not hard to understand she can't say more than she could on stream unless you are brain damaged.
A case she will lose, she was terminated for breaking her own contract and it was deserved.

No one has the reading comprehension to decipher the termination document so they just misinterpret shit and spread lies

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514461
>A case she will lose
Canadian labor law requires 30 days notice of termination for contract employees. She requested to part ways on Jan 26th and then discovered she was being terminated same day on the 5th. She definitely won't lose lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>Don't worry guys it's a nothing burger let's move on.
>Even more yabs happening as we speak from people still in Nijisanji.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Had to promote the rebrand somehow. Think of it as a going away present.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514461
ohnyo we should completely neglect every fucking thing a person that have mental disorder (that can be developed if environment around is bad) have said. I should stop replying to you too since you are clearly mentally retarded as well.

>obviously does not want to lose their biggest liver
It is deserved if they mistreat them, simple as.

>A case she will lose
>>68514619
Japan labor law also requires a 30 days notice, no way in hell niji wins in court at least about the termination part.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514199
>>68514619
The most retarded thing is people arguing the legalities of contracts they haven't seen

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514461
Oh the were "graciously" willing to let her stay despite her past transgressions, nijisanji the saints.
She didn't want to stay. They offer nothing that she wants anymore.
She was the one graciously offering them a neutral seperation but they HAD to go scorched earth and blow a nuke under their own feet all due to corporate arrogance.
The power dynamics are switched now, the Nijisanji brand is poisoned and all they have to blame are themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68515245
It's Canadian law. You cannot sign away your rights under any circumstance.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68515245
>arguing contracts
in order for an employment contract to be legally binding it would have to comply with local labor laws. It doesn't matter if you haven't seen the contract, all you need is the law

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512026
The fact that she literally said “I spoke to my lawyer and this is what I can say” means she literally did lawyer up, you dense motherfucker.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
This was always just going to be Vwhoreshow vs Nux 2.0 only this time doki gained support and niji is on it's ass

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
I don't know why people were expecting her to expose the entirety of Nijisanji in one stream, name names and reveal chatlogs and tell her fans to sic em and make them bleed. It's obvious she's worn out and tired and just wants to fucking play games and chill. She was never the dramanigger some /vt/ anons wanted her to be.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68516112
Why would she need to do anything? Niji is digging its own hole publicly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511238
>Traumatized girl
I can see you are the gullible type and bought right into her act.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513799
Enna show hymen proof and I will be your followers

[Anonymous No.]

>>68517258
Already taken by Kyo, sorry chud

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Alright see you next graduation

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Ummm... it's been 72 hours. It'll probably quiet down for awhile now that Dokibird has rebuted. It'll pick up again if/when lawsuits start appearing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
I know right. Nijisanji is doing fine, their livers are coming out of this stronger that ever. Oh btw Kyo's graduating next week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68519984
Good. One less person between me and Enna my beloved.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511469
>>68511622
>>68512026
>>68512221
>>68512410
>>68513316

[Anonymous No.]

>>68520509
oh I don't think it's bpd, I just think she's an attention whore and a thin-skinned baby

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512026
She didn't write that graduation post. The whole situation could have probably been avoided if they Niji just posted a generic graduation statement instead of three pages of Zaion-tier bullshit.

[Anonymous No.]

I swear, half of 4chan is retards. Did you think she would go on stream and start throwing under the bus ex coworkers? She would have been sued up her butt for defamation in 10 minutes.
You can't do stuff like that.

[Anonymous No.]

Sink the yacht, nijiniggers your days are numbered

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
You fucking wish NDF

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514086
NTA but you have a point, if they sold it at the regular price they could have made $3050 on their fan made merch. You miss the point that they did it to advertise themselves and their other merch and OC.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68522067
She had one job. Most people understand that she is not innocent and just as bad as Nijisanji and everyone else that worked for them. It's irrelevant, people came to watch the yacht burn and instead for shilled some merch she had prepared ahead of time, while saying inconsistent things like she had no time to prepare. She had at least two months of prep time as far as we can confirm from her twitter activity. The point is nobody came there fore her, they came for the drama. So yes, deliver or shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68522030
>The whole situation could have probably been avoided if they Niji just posted a generic graduation statement instead of three pages of Zaion-tier bullshit.
Absolutely not. NijiEN management burned through every last bit of goodwill they might have had with their incompetence throughout 2023, and after one of the most popular talents went missing for a month absolutely nothing they might have posted could have salvaged the situation. I do admit that they did manage to make it even worse though

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>it was just a literal, overblown nothingburger
COMPLETELY fucking wrong, the only way you could EVER be right is if the drama was two bread buns with no patty or cheese and then blown around by a strong wind

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511622
I say this with complete sincerity
please kill yourself

[Anonymous No.]

niji will mismanage it anyway, so since it was a nothingburger it means they'll can the entire branch for no reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512026
Calm down Enna

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Either way she's a boring person but good luck streaming apex.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511585
There was at least one bit of new info that reinforced some prior conceptions about Nijisanji
200k spent and 0 profits for her last year
She moved heaven and earth for events and art commissions and picked up the slack when Nijisanji repeatedly dropped the ball in supporting her at her own expense
Matches up with the recent accusations leveled at them by artists about how unprofessional AnyColor is in business dealings

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524579
Getting tired of you niji sisters keep posting hyperbole without receipts. If you have the goods then deliver. Don't just say you can't deliver for reasons but believe us there are juicy goods.

/vt/ is not your personal army

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524266
> Most people understand that she is not innocent and just as bad as Nijisanji and everyone else that worked for them.
bizzarre post anon, I've not seen one person claim that Selen was as bad as Nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524266
>Most people understand that dramaniggers are not goodwilled and just as bad as Nijisisters

FTFY

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Yeah, it was kinda a disappointment, I guess Selen was just exaggerating. Maybe the bully for her was millie reasonably telling her she didn't fulfilled everything to be able to post that last coffee. Niji is just the victim of a really unstable girl and they're paying the consequences of not terminating her one year earlier

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524894
They have. You're either lying or you don't even try to see what gets buried in mountains of spam and deflection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524966
how much are you getting paid?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524848
I will be real with you. If it is true that she took a job, not with nijisanji necessarily, any job anywhere, where she had to pay her way and not get anything. Then she deserved everything that happened to her. You take jobs to earn money, not lose money, and you quit as soon as it looks like you can't earn money. Only a sucker or a twisted narcissist would do otherwise.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524966
I've seen niji cope spamming that Selen is bpd and that her words cant be trusted or that she deserved it but I have not seen one post that says she was as bad as nijisanji en, that's such a ridiculous claim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
who?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525016
You guys need new material.
>anon says it doesn't happen
>anon does it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525159
All of the evidence is there and you are lying and being disingenuous as usual. This is why nobody wants to support you niji sisters in your rebellion.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525159
This, I've seen a retard earlier saying selen has mental disorder and her word shouldn't be trusted. When BPD can be developed by staying in a bad environment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Of course, nijicucks were always gonna go back and keep paying for the yacht

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524848
not Anycolor's fault if she's terrible with money

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Just another chink bug looking for attention

[Anonymous No.]

>>68524966
>Most people understand that she is not innocent and just as bad as Nijisanji
>gets buried in mountains of spam and deflection

Gee Anon, it sure is convenient that the majority consensus dissenting from your perspective is invalidated by a handwave excuse.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525159
She literally spent half of her comeback stream harassing her new manager

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Fucking good. Good then.
As if the greatest success isn't to just go back to her daily activities like everything is fine and dandy. Shows those that is currently suffering that there's hope for things to continue as-is, or slightly better, outside of the shithole company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68522030
>>68524279
What the latter anon said, if they had done a quick and clean short termination letter at the end of December, this would have gone ALOT smoother for them. Nijisanji fucked up big time in 2 ways
1. They dragged out ripping off the bandaid and keeping her radio silent for over a month, ratcheting up the concern levels and number of eyes on the situation as prominent friends and figures (rpr, her artist mama, etc.) called attention to the situation and a movement started, #WhereIsSelen
2. With all these gathered and concerned eyes trained on her and Nijisanji, they released that 3 page petulant termination letter which somehow managed to be even worse than the one they released for Zaion's termination

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525333
The problem you are having here is you are clearly defining people as sentient beings when they are defining people as whatever the government would legally define as a human and therefore includes all the spam and deflection.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525268
evidence like?

[Anonymous No.]

So she's so rich that she can afford to pay 200k and still afford living expenses for a whole year?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525452
watch streams

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525307
If it was the industry standard to provide minimal to no support then you would have a point, but that statement showed the immense chasm between AnyColor leaving their talents to hang themselves financially and the support other Vtubing Corporations provide their talents.

[Anonymous No.]

I wonder how many straight white males with expierince in managing are in the current nijiEN work force.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525434
What the fuck are you even babbling about, schizo? Try talking like a normal human being, not some sovereign citizen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525601 (me)
I would also add on that this whole situation is a bit of a textbook case of AnyColor being 'penny smart but pound foolish'. Let's say they didn't financially support Selen and her dealings because they felt she was being too generous and overpaying artists and others in her projects and cut corners to save company money and shove those expenses onto her. Now we are seeing an exodus of sponsors and others refusing to work with them ever again, I'm sure the value of those that they have lost easily exceeds manifold the value of whatever they saved by not supporting Selen.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525371
It was just banter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525371
I know harassment, I pay my dominatrix good money every other month to be harassed while getting off.
That last night was no harassment you nincompoop

[Anonymous No.]

>>68525604
LOL, LMAO even

[Anonymous No.]

>>68514619
Japs give zero fucks about Canadian law, I'm sure in her initial contract there are stipulations giving Niji the right to terminate at any time, etc that supersedes whatever podunk colloquial laws there are where she's at.

[Anonymous No.]

good lord, all of you are retarded

[Anonymous No.]

>>68530449
> My contract says your National law is invalid
You do this only when you want to do a court loss Speedrun

[Anonymous No.]

>>68530536
a contract can specify anything, if you agree to it its on you

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511622
Or some people are just assholes who put others down. Not exactly a rare thing to occur

[Anonymous No.]

>>68531174
Define everything. Because it obviously cant be everything

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
Is it bad that I wish she'd successfully committed sudoku just because of the drama and chaos and shit posting that'd follow?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68512221
if vshojo was willing to accept michael, I'm sure Doki can make it into anywhere except Holo.

[Anonymous No.]

*sigh*
Scarle, look what you've done, you've made my penis hard again... you think it's ok for you to just do that and then not do anything about it? Don't you care? I've tried really hard with you but you're being so cold towards me, are you doing it on purpose?
If you really want to make it up to me, you'll need to take responsibility whenever you give me an erection in the future ok? Hello? Scarle? Please respond.

Also don't tell Luca about this, that retarded flip will leak it to that mod he simps for as per usual.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68533761
Doki's situation is perfect for vshojo. They brand themselves as the "hands-off" corpo, a talent having a horrible experience in another corp and tjen deciding that vshojo's terms are good enough to risk that again looks great for them.

[Anonymous No.]

You must be one of those sovereign citizen retards. For a contract to be valid in the first place it needs to comply to local law dumbass, if not then it considered invalid and/or unenforceable. If they wrote an invalid contract and still try to enforce it the local enforcement organ will just shrug and tell you to get bent and comply to their laws.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513799
what a pathetic sister, hope that your oshi did a success attempt and let's see you cope lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511469
The what now?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68532446
I said *anything* retard-chama

[Anonymous No.]

>>68516198
Shut the fuck up, Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511068
>be indie
>get normal sized neck
lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68520049
Aloukek...

[Anonymous No.]

>>68511622
Enna Alouette of Nijisanji. You disgust me. Unsympathic narcissist. The only reason you share an existance on this earth is because your parents made a mistake, and it's a shame you inherited that same behavioural mistake. I don't want to see your sorry excuse of trying to be human on my YouTube recommendations ever again. Get out. The only time I want to hear your voice is when you're asphyxiating. Because you don't deserve to breathe the same air I breathe. You're going to tell me to touch grass; I'm touching grass more than you ever will with you being strung up so high. The audacity. I cannot believe your impotence. If there was bug spray for me to hand out to every individual on this planet, I would buy out the entire bug spray economy just so I'd know that my and others' houses were bug free. And don't think that others won't turn on you, either. Your mind is so rotted you think your way of life is acceptable. You expect others to be with you through thick and thin, at the expense of their own well-being? What a terrible joke. Unbelievable. Awaiting my copyright strike.

[Anonymous No.]

NDF POST!
NDF THREAD!
NDF SITE!
NDF WORLD!

[Anonymous No.]

OK PEOPLE NOTHING TO SEE HERE MOVE ALONG

[Anonymous No.]

>>68513112
Ya let's just forget all the dirty laundry that Luca aires out, the damning words by Sayu, Matara, and Kuro, and all the artists and mods exposing just how shitty management is with their money, spending money on expensive restaurants and hotels instead of paying their commissions. Let's also ignore all the infighting that mods exposed that are more or less confirmed true and really shed a light on why Niji talents stoppes collabing a lot and became less of a family