/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

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It begins

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>>68266270
>Who bullied my dragon ? I don't know so I shall unsub them all

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I have a long-standing policy of blocking every NijiEN channel when they popped up in my feed.

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>>68266270
SELL SELL SELL

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>>68266738
The cleansing flames.

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Almost forgot I was still subbed to Nina and (lmao) Finana, thanks anon.

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all of this for a suicidal bitch? kek

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kguaGI7aZg

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>>68266270

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AYYYEEEEEEEE MY YATCH

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OH NONONONONONO
THEY ARE WAKING UP!

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>>68266270
Whats the site?

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Rosemi........

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>>68266270
It's starting... the consequences... What a year to be alive to see Niji EN burn in flame.

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>>68267950

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>>68266270
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Where's your source cretin?

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>>68266738

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>>68266270
>It took rosemi years to get to 500k
>might go sub 500k in under a day
JUST

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>>68270563
>>68267950
>>68268431
Rosemi is the last person who do something like this but... kurosanji must burn.

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>>68267950
hey alright...

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>>68270726
Can't make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, jack

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>>68266270
I don’t see the point in unsubbing from Rosemi or Petra, who never did anything to anyone.

The others, fuck ‘em.

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do you really think most of them deserve being dragged down for this? do you think guys like wilson who deal with schizo yumes or aia who does ryona bait are capable of bullying selen

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>>68267950
Imagine if she goes back below 500k because of this

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>>68270862
I think it's just people who are done with Niji period. People are even unsubbing to Pomu who's already graduated and is friends with Selen.

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>>68267950
A single pale rose in a burning wasteland...

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>>68266270
I did this with EN and JP. I can't support Nijisanji as a brand anymore. Sorry to the livers that had nothing to do with this.

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>>68266270
By not taking responsibility and saying that their shitty management fucked up, and allowing the doubt to even spread to other streamers, they've fucking caused paranoia and doubt on all of their talents

What a fuck up, how inept and incompetent can management be? Whenever there's a problem, management's role is to fall on the sword and they can't even do that right.

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>>68270862
https://youtu.be/enNWAqIyujQ

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>>68266738
Based

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>>68266738
guilt by association.
It's retarded but I kind of get it. You don't want to support a black company in the slightest.

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>>68270862
>do you really think most of them deserve being dragged down for this?
They deserve worse if they stay.

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honestly decay was the only thing awaiting a lot of them
all the interesting project ideas get canceled or denied by management anyways
I assume they want EN to just be a streaming and merch only branch or some shit with none of the neat big stuff that really helps them grow

I like wilson, sonny, bonbon, and rosemi regardless.

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FIRE FIRE LIGHT THE FIRE

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>>68266270
I said weeks ago before Pomu left "if anything happens to Selen, I'm seeing Pomu off and then culling the Nijis from my feed."

Well we're way past Pomu leaving, but I am a man of my word. Just haven't finished sorting them out yet

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>>68270810
I doubt they were unaware of what was happening. It's really really unlikely that they're ignorant of all this and they stood silent the entire time.

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>>68270862
> Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.

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>>68266270
Elira and most of those did nothing wrong

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>>68266738
Nijisanji smearing a vtuber that attempted suicide is such a horrible decision that NijiEN will almost certainly have more graduations. Management will attempt damage control but any liver that was having doubts will now have good reason to leave the company.

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Does Rosemi have any open PL accounts I can donate to? Elsewise I will write down how much I would have SCed her and save it for her reincarnation.

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>>68266738
Niji and Selen insinuated that bullying/harassment was occurring from the livers themselves so everyone is getting raked through the coals.

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Why are people demonizing Nijisanji for giving Selen access to the best healthcare money can buy in Canada?

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>>68271684
What do you expect them to be able to do? How much pull do you think they have within Nijisanji?

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>the only Nijis I was subbed to was Pomu, Selen, and Rosemi

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>>68271684
Multiple talents could still be mistreated. Do you think Selen would be the only one?

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>>68271684
The grim truth of the situation is they most likely new. Zaion claimed she was experiencing it too. For all we know Nina and Pomu might've caught shades of it, or they all got hit with the Bystander effect and no one thought they could interfere

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>>68270862
Plenty of people sub everyone as a show of support for their oshi to make it strong. Not anymore, figures will start to reflect only the streamer. No more company buff.

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>>68271896
>break contract (multiple times)
>but i tried to kill myself!
were they supposed to welcome her back with open arms or something?

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>>68272160
>Bystander effect.
I get it. It's powerful and compelling but it doesn't always absolve someone of responsibility.

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>>68266738
98% of the support any talent receives goes to nijisanji so what's the big issue?

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>>68270862
Blame it on the misfortune of joining the wrong company

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>>68272281
>>68272160
well if they break silence and quit the company instantly all will be forgiven

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>>68271896
Tranny perspective. Hope niji EN is disbanded ASAP and you move to vshojo or something

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>>68273041
>oh yes Riku-sama, your boots taste lovely today!

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>>68273372
Millie, KYS pronto.

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>>68273041
The correct way to handle this was to put out a brief statement about her being terminated with boilerplate language due to "irreconcilable differences" and "we are deeply saddened" and "we wish her the best of luck in her future endeavors."

Not whatever... whatever the fuck this was. They seem to have decided to just do as much damage as they could to her on her way to justify their already grossly unprofessional conduct.

The most amazing thing to me in all of this is that it's clear that all the exact same people remain in charge after Zaion's botched termination. A real, professional company would have quietly removed the managers who did so much damage to the company's reputation. Instead they seem to have just been rolling along, business as usual, and created a disaster even bigger than Zaion leaving.

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>>68273468
You at least can agree with me that niji en is useless anymore. I'm helping you. Anycolour will be damaged so fucking hard if it folds.

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>>68266270
They’ll recover

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https://youtu.be/6tLwrl7X8g8?feature=shared&t=238

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>>68273041
> Mel termination exists.
That's how you do it

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>>68273041
>>68273638
The correct way to handle it was to say she's on a mental health break and then never mention her again, like that one niji liver who hasn't streamed in 4 years because she was involved in a court case with another one.

Terminating her and screaming about 'contract violations' is beyond retarded and you can really tell that niji managers are Indians because only indians would be this stupid.

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>>68270563
kek

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>>68273638
>They seem to have decided to just do as much damage as they could to her
Which is incredibly retarded since by doing this they hurt themselves much more than they hurt her. Like Selen can just bounce back from this but there's no way for NijiEN to come back from completely nuking their reputation.

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>>68270862
When Pomu graduated I was out. They were mishandling Selen already and it was obvious Pomu didn't want to go but due to how things were ran she thought the best decision was to leave. People watch vtubers to be entertained, not to have drama after drama after drama pushed into their face. The one two punch of Selen and Pomu gone, especially under the circumstances in which they left, will make a lot of people reconsider supporting Nijisanji in any way. It happened with Kawaii with the gen 3 walk out, and it's happening here. It'll be a miracle if as much or more people turn up for the next waves debut as TTT. It might garner Luxiem level interest or lower, effectively making them go back two years in time. You may think things are going well in /NijiEN/, but you're the minority with having a neutral or positive opinion of Nijisanji now. Nijisanji has earned their current reputation.

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>>68270862
They are the shittiest "friends" in existence. Also notable that Elira distanced herself from pomu when she knew pomu was graduating so as not to appear to be too close to "traitors" like Pomu and Selen, despite Elira claiming to be Pomu's best friend. The nijinogs are just a cancerous tumblr clique wth a secret discord and that's all they ever were.

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>>68270810
Petra deserves worse.

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>>68271566
Bonbon isn't EN he's ex-ID, though I guess the distinction doesn't matter.

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>>68273386
nigger, i hold zero sympathy for any corpo, but i also know how corpos work. it's the prime example of fucking around and finding out.
The bullying issue irks me more because this would be the 2nd case of terminated members bringing that up. Other than that, as cruel as it is to say, Selen should've known that stepping out of line won't be met with positive response.
>>68273638
Nijisanji may be aware that their reputation used to be better, and given that it's profit-first, how else are you going to keep the investors other than painting the talent that you're firing in the worst image possible? That's pure business. Harsh world, but this is the reality.
>>68273814
Mel didn't mention suicide attempts. Mel was also not mentioned to have broken the contract in the past, unlike Selen, neither was she a true pillar of the branch, and that's without belittling her role in Hololive, which was pretty big, but nowhere as big as "one of THE vtubers" or something.
Those are not the same.
>>68273990
Read the 2nd reply. Roa's case is also a bit more complicated, if that's what you're referring to. And leaving people in the limbo would've been even worse, tbdesu. Ending things right here and there leaves no loose ends and is a better solution long-term.

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>NDF

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>>68273638
someone experienced seriously need to take the helm on the niji wheels while there's still a window for course correction else the entire branch would just be shit canned like ID and merge with JP which would ultimately kill the entire branch for good.

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>>68274429
>how else are you going to keep the investors other than painting the talent that you're firing in the worst image possible? That's pure business. Harsh world, but this is the reality.
Actual adults understand the value of being tactful. It's better to be seen as a black box (no pun intended) than a shit stirrer.

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>>68274429
at that point Selen had no choice
niji management refused to let her do anything fun even when it was paid for by herself
she asked for graduation and these japs instead terminate and slander her on twitter(without telling her btw, she only found out she'd been terminated because she was awake)
kurosanji has made it clear that if you are EN and not a clique member they give ZERO shits about you and still take 98% of what you earn anyways
JP companies and culture also rarely care about bullying, or encourage it so 'outliers' either get in line or leave

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>>68270862
yeah i do when suicide comes into the picture. it's bigger than their shitty 3% revenue share

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>>68274873
aabsolutely BASED

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>>68270862
It's working both ways. As a liver I wouldn't want to have subscribers who think I'm a bully or that my company is supporting bullying. Good riddance.

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>>68266270
I hope every single one of these faggots goes down with the branch.

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>>68274429
There's some merit to trying to get the first word out and set the narrative but they had nothing concrete to throw at her, worse yet they shot their own foot off by mentioning bullying again. They needed to have something incredible if they thought they could pave over the hospitalization and bullying claims, and they didn't have shit

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>>68266738
The ones who stood by and did nothing are just as guilty.

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>>68266738
Honestly, based

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>>68275701
>openly defend a coworker (lose my job)
>ignore (keep my job)
There is no justice in this world. She was just one of many.

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>>68275937
If you value your job at a company that will literally fire you for no reason and allow other employees to bully you into attempting suicide, then you deserve everything that's coming to you.

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>>68266270
DOMP EET

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>>68276055
>fire you for no reason
>Openly slander the management and tell your fans to go against them ON YOUR CORPORATE ACCOUNT
You're delusional.

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Don't forget to unsub the clippers too. They help the channels grow the most so getting people to stop clipping them is what's gonna hurt them the most as well.

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>>68270862
I think most people are incapable of thinking and are mindless drones.

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>>68275937
That's not a job worth keeping.

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>>68266738
I think some of the viewers just want to move away from the company entirely due to etchics/drama. It's a form of escapism and entertainment anon and this is very much the opposite of that for those who are invested.

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>>68270862
Reputation is a strange entity, it has breakpoints, so at one moment you are a normal, although a bit shady company, one moment later you are literally the the cancer of EN scene. And I think now we've passed that point.
>Yugo terminated
Huh, that was a bit sudden, okay
>AR live canceled
Well, maybe they'll move it to later date..
>Zaion terminated
Wow that was messy, but she was new to the company and I guess just didn't fit the culture
>Nina leaves, Mysta leaves, Pomu being unhappy
Something is not right with their environment
>POMU LEAVES
The person who was actually fan of nijisanji, one of the core chubas they had, jumped the ship, something is terribly wrong
>SELEN IS FUCKING TERMINATED AND WAS ALMOST DRIVEN TO SUICIDE
At this point you as a niji chuba either jump the ship as soon as possible, or you are part of the problem.

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>>68266270
SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL SELL

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>>68266270
If these girls have any sense it should be a bank run on Anycolor. This is like watching a car crash in NASCAR, it's that good. How can you be worse than than Cover? How the fuck can you do that?

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>>68266738
Based. You either speak up or you're against her.

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>>68276327
Kyo...

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Not again...

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>>68266270
The Nijikexodus

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> Niji when they breach contact with smaller creators

> Niji when someone breach their contract

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>>68276226
The management are incompetent retards, they deserve it

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>>68276802
wtf is wrong with them lol?

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All the shilling I see of these whores and not even one of them has over a million?
Roru

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>>68276808
It's not a question of deserving it, even though I have to admit that they're almost astonishingly bad at their job, it's just more of a proof that the people watching vtubers don't know shit about corporate environments (the top not liking rebels really isn't special to Asia, so either they're underage, NEETs or have a very privileged position.
Bark and get spanked.
>>68276281
We're talking about menheras, zoomers and wasted people. Having a job of any kind is a blessing, especially since you can get paid for playing video games. It's virtous of you to say that you'd leave such workplace, but I sincerely wish that you'll never have to end up in a place like this, though.

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>>68270862
No, they don't, but it's not the fans' fault for refusing to support their shit employers. With any luck the entire thing will implode and we'll be able to comfortably support all of these livers' next identities

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>>68274873
Paragon of virtue. I kneel

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>>68273041
Nijisanji saying that she was fired over song permissions would have sounded less evil. Management knew that Selen was getting bullied by other livers but didn't care. Japanese managers can be horribly clueless about western culture but having a termination where they smear her for breaking activity rules only makes the company look worse.

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>>68270862
>unsub from all
>they start outing the ring leaders

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>>68276889
chinky winkys (the bad ones)

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>>68274098
>Selen can just bounce back
Yeah I believe that

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>>68266738
Graduate them all. Vshojo will know their own.

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>>68276327

>In large bodies of water, the temperature drops slowly the deeper one dives. That change can, if the descent is slow enough, feel almost imperceptible. Yet at a certain point, the water temperature drops sharply and alarmingly. This point is the thermocline—a near-physical barrier where warm water meets cold. The shift between the two is sudden and dramatic.

>In business, particularly digital services or businesses relying on a subscription revenue model, trust works in the same way. Wired into those products and services is a “trust thermocline.” It is a point which, once crossed, otherwise healthy businesses and products suddenly collapse.

>The easiest way to understand how trust thermoclines work is to look at how they fail. Content services, both print and digital, are particularly prone to these failures. So are social media networks or businesses that focus on delivering quality-of-life monthly services—from TV streaming to beers of the month. Broadly, any business in which the consumer forming an emotional relationship with the product contributes to adoption is at risk of such failures.

>In most cases, that failure follows a pattern: the company or service will be growing, whether in users or revenue, and perhaps rolling out new products that are bundled within an expanded subscription, or showing good adoption on their own. In many cases, there will not even seem to be a new rival in the market, with existing ones failing to threaten them through market share. Then suddenly, over a short period of time, sales and user numbers collapse. Consumers move to seemingly inferior products or simply disengage completely from the business.

>The thermocline has been crossed.

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SEVEN TRUMPETS OF REVELATION

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>>68277566
Corpos are run by people. The rules in corpos are made by people. These rules are not sacred. If your rules give rise to an untenable situation time and time again, then they're the cause of the problem. Not the rule breakers. Simple as that.

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>>68266738
Unironically so, yes
https://twitter.com/search?q=affiliated+livers

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>>68267950
She's probably graduating soon anyways.

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>>68266270
TND! TOTAL NIJI DEATH!

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>>68276226
I don't know how much of a bitch you have to be to simply suck it up that your troglodyte manager wasted YOUR 15k dollars after fucking up multiple events before.
Fucking them over on your way out is the least that you can do.

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>>68266738
Blame nijien management for throwing the WHOLE branch under the bus to "protect" themselves.

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>>68266738
Even without that, getting attached to any Niji talent is a losing proposition. Who wants to watch someone they care about slowly get more and more depressed until they're unceremoniously killed and dumped out the back?

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>>68276570
Sometimes something good happens, true.

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>>68266270
I subbed from every Niji I followed. Can't support the company anymore. Sad because a lot of the individual talents are blameless but it's just how it is. I hope everyone graduates and finds something better.

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>>68266738
My guess is millie and enna for sure

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>>68266270
I can't believe I'm here to see the day Niji got Final Yabbed. It's a surreal kind of feel.

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Check again. Some are at -2k now, and it's interesting which ones.