/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>Western "Vtubing"

[Anonymous No.]

>tired, go to sleep
>leave stream on, twitch allows you to do sleeping streams
>collect free money without effort
??????? I don't get it, this is pretty normal on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
I'm jealous of female streamers. They can just sleep and money will automatically flow to them

[Anonymous No.]

Who the hell are these NPCs in chat for this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Still better than japs
YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095325
Considering how the gender ratio of humanity is 50:50 and all these vtubers have hundreds of thousands of men adoring them, it makes you wonder how real women get by trying to find a stable partner (as opposed to one night stands with the town fuckboy).

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Ill repeat what I have said before.
>twitch counts a muted tab as a viewer
>twitch no longer punishes inactivity on stream
>she can come back when she wakes up and have a starting point of five thousand viewers instead of starting from zero
>she gets ad revenue from all the ads played
>bigger indies are scared of having their numbers drop so they are so shameless to sleep on stream since its so normalized, look at lazy subathons. the subathon timer is supposed to keep going while sleeping but vtubers changed that

[Anonymous No.]

>nooooo you can't stream for more than 2 hours at a time!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096038
You're just crying because hololive doesn't do it due to kektube only saving 12 hours of video

[Anonymous No.]

>play games for 7 hours
>eat while watching videos for 5 hours
>go do other stuff off-stream and sleep for 12 hours
Twitch vtubers are hard workers streaming whole 24 hours without breaks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096143
Not crying im just pointing out why they exist and whys its so popularized.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096038
Keep seething when your favorite Holos start to stream on twitch

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095617
>it makes you wonder how real women get by trying to find a stable partner
Chad revolving door. Women would rather be alone than date a mediocre man, that's where these simps come from. They can't buy real happiness, so they buy this instead. It makes lying about being single/pure even worse when you think about it, because it means you're fucking Chad while the men you've rejected give you money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096241
You're wrong though. They do it because it's a special event that indies can do. You get a corporate subsidized 3D live concert every week instead.

[Anonymous No.]

Sleeping on stream is a special event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096539
The other 16 hours they're live is the special part, braindead holotard.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095253
Plenty of male streamers have done this too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096804
Why can't they stream for 24 hours? There are holowhores who do that but apparently that's too much for twitch tubers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096038
>bigger indies are scared of having their numbers drop so they are so shameless to sleep on stream since its so normalized, look at lazy subathons. the subathon timer is supposed to keep going while sleeping but vtubers changed that
It literally takes 3 seconds to see that the timer continues when Shylily sleeps.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097020
A subathon is much longer than 24 hours, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097122
And? You don't need to sleep for 8 hours during a "special event"

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097091
Theres a difference between a... whompathon.... and a real subathon...

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095617
you mean Ironmouse is also the same??
She literally doing this too???

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096804
Then just stop timer when you sleep, this is nothing more than a fucking scam

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097181
You can stay up 24 hours in a row, many do that sometimes.
You can't stay up 24 hours a day for a weeks straight, you would actually die. That's what a subathon is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
>OH WOW SHE IS FUCKING HARD WORKER AND STREAM A LOT
>50% of stream time are fucking sleep stream
KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097314
I said you don't need to sleep for 8 hours. Learn to read.

[Anonymous No.]

>people keep doing things they're financially rewarded for
is this OP's first time on the internet?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097480
I read it, but I assumed you meant something else because that's such an artistically retarded point to bring up.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
average twitch "vtuber"

[Anonymous No.]

It's always hilarious to see how jealous of subathons the holobronies get

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097564
how hard would your holoweenie be if fuwamoco had 130k memberships? bet that would be posted in the monkey thread every day for a year at least.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097628
Do holos even do subathons

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097628
Her record is 205k.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097758
No because that would be begging for money.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097767
>200k subs
>still has a slower chat than some random 3 view

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097758
No because youtube deletes vods after 12 hours so their black corpo doesn't allow them to stream for longer than that

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097758
they can't, youtube only saves 12 hours of streams
>>68097794
begging for money is called a superchat reading

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097831
>begging for money is called a superchat reading
what

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097828
>No because youtube deletes vods after 12 hours so their black corpo doesn't allow them to stream for longer than that
If you ever needed more proof vshojo tards are the biggest newfags on this board

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097862
when holos beg for money they call it "superchat reading". they have a lot of fun phrases like that. like they call react streams "watchalongs" instead.

[Anonymous No.]

Thing is if these kinds of streams were actually sleeping on stream - e.g. with mic unmuted, you can hear the breathing, it might make more sense
But they just go completely AFK so you don't even get sounds

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097821
subscribers are the equivalent to membership anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097909
Fucking retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097862
>"send me money incrl and i read youe message"
Superchat reading is begging for money

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097925
Did I stutter, retard? I know what I said.

[Anonymous No.]

I dont know how people do subathons, money or job or not. If I don't get some fresh air at least once a day I start to feel like shit. Especially if im in front of my PC for all of it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097821
>spending money on the streamer vs. spending money on chat bots for engagement points

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097971
>If I don't get some fresh air at least once a day I start to feel like shit.
Anon, no one prevents them from leaving the house when they are supposed to be sleeping*

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
why did shylily reply to my biboo on X?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
>subathons

Is it really worth doing subathons anymore? Twitch pays jack shit and soon they will get rid of Prime subs entirely. Even simps are starting to get tapped out from the shitty economy(interest rates are likely to go up again too).

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098066
Twitch has the same cut as Youtube now for subs, and a better cut for bits.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097959
i don't know we get some retards in vsj from time to time that don't know it but basically it means people are watching and paying or do you want to convince people now that mouse donated to herself to make her numbers bigger?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097922
I know Mouse's mic was unmuted in the first subathon at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYNSVTUuayE

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097971
it's just like the Olympics anon there is always something to watch while it's on and you don't sit around all day watching it.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't know why you niggas complain about Subathons. I checked what she did and she pretty much streamed for 10 hours. You holo/niji streamers can't even stream for 3 hours before tapping out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097226

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098491
>You holo/niji streamers can't even stream for 3 hours before tapping out.
that's why they're mad

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098491
Because holowhores are lazy and their brain dead fans don't want to admit that
Not only that but it exposes how more people will watch a twitch indie just sleeping for a longer time over any holoshit stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097564
>click mouse stream
>connor is streaming instead
grim

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098145
>same cut

That's incorrect, that split change won't happen until Q2 2024 and even then you need to apply for the plus program. By then its too late streamers will probably give up and get a 2nd/3rd job when shit hits the global economy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098692
still better content than any holotrash stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096405
Not really. I bet you they're all lonely.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097564
Are these two dating or what?

[Anonymous No.]

Reminder that twitch is dying and will not be around by the end of the year

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098749
i watch vtuber not fleshtuber lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098808

[Anonymous No.]

Unironically I was watching some magical girl EN vtuber the other day and she started talking about her fucking trampstamps and her pussy.

I don't understand how people who understand so little about vtubing get into vtubing in the first place. Do normalfags really drop 1000+ dollars on equipment for something they saw in a clip on youtube one time?

[Anonymous No.]

> “Western” Vtubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098808
That is true, sadly. I've been hearing a LOT of big name Twitch streamers are shitting themselves over the company not being profitable and Amazon is very fucking close to pulling the plug on the site, even with that Nvidia AV1 encoding sales pitch as their last hurrah.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
>more ccv than some "live" Holos
kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098808
>>68099175
>actually believing numberganda

[Ironmouse No.]

Holotards are hardcore seething in this thread

[Anonymous No.]

> Western “V”tubing

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096038
every time I see this I just know I'm dealing with a /#/monkey with stains from his salty tears on his cheeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097020
24 hour streams exist outside of whatever retarded tribalflag you're saluting. They're a thing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095617
>it makes you wonder how real women get by trying to find a stable partner
They're a minority.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095447
>Thinks literally watching an afk model "sleep" is better than all JP vtubers.
Holy shit the twitch brainrot.

[Anonymous No.]

> West”ern” V”tub”ing

[Anonymous No.]

>>68099692
It is better seeing how more people enjoy watching that over jap vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
I wish more vtubers who do subathons or donothons played pre-recorded content while they're asleep, it's a nice way to keep people around while also being different from their usual live content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097971
Some streamers have done outside walkabouts ("IRL streaming") during subathons. Mobile phones allow you to do some passable streaming and so do some higher end gadgets like streaming backpacks. The subathon isn't limited to staying home, you just have to stay streaming until the timer ends. Though what "rules" exist for subathons are pretty wonky. The pure "Ludwig" style means never leaving stream. Ironmouse has done the same, though she broke the rules once because of Bubi's debut (she ended stream and raided into him). Lily flat out suspended her first subathon because she got COVID and "her chat forced her". Froot did one where the timer stopped when she slept.

The rules get fucked with for convenience because there really aren't any. Generally as long as the audience pays you to be there, though, you are there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68099244
>please believe me i'm relevant you have to believe me REEEEE

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098731
someone like lily has the 70/30 already tho

[Anonymous No.]

>>68099692
>sex orca or
>some idiot yapping in a retarded language that requires 5000 characters to write a sentence
easiest choice of my life

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098808
>twitch is dying
People have been saying this for like the last 5 years now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100127
For now, those retards at Twitch are infamous for putting out a seemingly good program, only to pull it months later from it being shit. There's good reason shit like ad incentives and amazon blacksmith don't exist anymore.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100358
It took a few years for Mixer to completely die. Websites shutting down doesn't just happen overnight.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100358
When was the last time Amazon was taking things away from Twitch? Because that's happening right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Eww

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096225
Lily is genuinely the last vtuber you could reasonably leverage this criticism

Every vtuber has off-stream work, every vtuber who's doing it full-time will tell you that the real job happens after the stream is over.
Lily is chief among them, well-known for always being busy and always working, and is now literally co-owner of an entire company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095246
You mad cuz your 2views whore didn't make a dime

[Ironmouse No.]

>>68100358
2 more weeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
and people will look at me dead in the eyes and say Twitch vtubers are better than hololive lol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096038
You wish your holowhores are allowed to do this too kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097480
You don't need to but literally every medical professional will tell you that it's best if you do.

There is no *good* reason for you to suggest that any streamer sleep less.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100589
yes, they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100695
>There is no *good* reason for you to suggest that any streamer sleep less.
Yes there is. It's a special event.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Streaming time 3-4 hours on yt are for the rookies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100589
They are several times better than anyone in hololive and don't even acknowledge the existence of hololive as anything more than a black corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096255
Kek. Guess they are spitting their own faces

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098731
Partner Plus was implemented in October, anon
And they just announced that they've lowered the requirement to reach that tier, and added another lower tier for a 60/40 split

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097628
Fwmc stream is botted so it doesn't count

[Anonymous No.]

Your favorite hololive vtuber wishes she could be a successful twitch vtuber doing subathons while not a single twitch vtuber wishes they could be a hololive slave.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100756
... So?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097794
It's called superchat whores

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100242
>some idiot yapping in a retarded language that requires 5000 characters to write a sentence
Recently I learned that they have three different writing systems, each of which have more characters than the English alphabet AND they still have to learn the English alphabet to write rōmaji which is technically a fourth writing system. I think I'll just stick to vtubers who can speak English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097862
>Looking at the biggest holowhore notrushia superchat

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100824
>>68100712
Ah if only Hololive could do sleeping and react streams it would surely be a new golden age. Whenever I watch FW/MC, my thought is always "this would be way better if the two were sleeping on stream for a few hours."

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097821
>>68097767
Like 90% of those were gifted
Without paypigs whaling on her weeks long begging stream she wouldnt even be in the top10 vtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101223
This but unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101223
If they were streaming for multiple days at a time then I would surely hope that they go to sleep when needed

Although FWMC have the benefit of being a shared channel and could take shifts to keep the stream active at all times

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101223
Literally yes that's what you're thinking. You can only get 3 hour streams because your holobeggar is lazy and you are jealous that twitch vtubers can stream for an entire month without stopping

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101292
100% of superchats are gifted yet holos don't disable them, curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101342
what? The twins have been going almost non stop since debut what the hell are you talking about?

>>68101328
They can sleep off stream anon. My minimum requirement for a chuuba is 5-6 hours of streaming in a week. Surely they can find room to sleep in that schedule.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101433
>5-6 hours a week
God damn you fucks are whipped.

[Ironmouse No.]

>>68101433
>5-6 hours of streaming in a week
holy fucking shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101377
>This is your brain on nijisanji

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101433
Why do holo fans have the lowest standards possible

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101433
They only stream for 3 hours on average while hardworking twitch vtubers always stream foe 6 to 8 hours and can do subathons which provide an endless stream for at least one week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101501
>>68101491
>>68101521
What you niggers have 20 hours a week to waste on watching egirls do nothing of interest for half of it? Do you not have a job???

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101578
wait you're a holotard right? with access to like... automatically stored permanent vods... and you're whining about not having time?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100991
Why holotards are like this?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101491
>>68101501
>>68101521
It's always been fine for me, and it's also my minimum requirement, not my ideal.

If I wanted to watch a stream for 5-10 hours, I'd watch Kaela lol. I don't have the time to devote to that. Unlike Shylily, Kaela spends the entire time streaming and engaging, not sleeping like some dipshit C student in college.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101578
>>68101725
You holofags are fucking pathetic. No wonder subathons make you seethe so hard when you got literally no streams to watch, ever.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101725
you are out of your depth nigga

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101433
>5-6 hours of streaming in a week
This is probably my #1 reason for not watch Holo. I can't be arsed to reserve a date for the 2% of the week their chuubas are actually streaming, meanwhile I can open Twitch and almost always find someone I like streaming because many of them are live 40+ hours a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101639
Watching it live or later makes no difference to how much time it takes you genuine retard
>>68101776
I only watch fuyo and pipkin

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101725
Your whores are lazy 3-4 hours streaming and closing every streams with superchat begging money

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101578
>>68101725
that's why you guys have so much extra time to shit threads and make some of the most stupid baitthreads ever conceived by man?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
This, the epidemic of reaction content, and extreme whorism make many twitch vtubers go from ok to no way.

Who the fuck watches an static l2d thats doing nothing for hours? Waste of oxygen, bandwidth and energy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101433
>5-6 hours of streaming in a week
Jesus Christ...
My oshi cleared that just today

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101776
Subathons are embarrassingly lazy. It's reaction streams yet somehow even more boring.

I'd far prefer a 2 hour stream with interesting content than a 7 hour one of a chuuba reacting to something or waiting for more paypigs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101578
>>68101725
Bros... that's pathetic. Makes sense why you guys are shitting on the catalog all day though kek

[Ironmouse No.]

>>68102099
you don't even know what a subathon is

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102099

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101725
>If I wanted to watch a stream for 5-10 hours, I'd watch Kaela
>Unlike Shylily, Kaela spends the entire time streaming and engaging
Lily was active for 10 hours today before going to bed

[Anonymous No.]

>>68099244
See the recent layoffs. Musk fired 71% of the staff of twitter in 2022, people predicted the site would go under. Then nothing happened besides constant seething that tranny propaganda can't be disseminated as truth. The reality of the modern market is that 71% of tech workers and startups are extraneous garbage that can be laid off without fanfare. And they exist for that specific purpose, so companies can tell shareholders they're "getting rid of dei" now that it's no longer profitable, sending their share prices upwards despite low profitability. This is the reality and dumb whores who made money from showing their fake titties over the last 7 years are about to get a REKToning.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102240
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQCU36pkH7c

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101808
Holy shit new goal post, comparing Hololive vs the entirety of twitch. I am sure you are one of those fags that counted all the consoles vs pc but taking mmo out of the pc chart.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102366
Not all of Twitch, no, the number of vtubers I whose channels I watch (outside of occasional raids or events) less than the membership of HoloEN, they just stream 10x more.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102099
Twitch watchers are really the lowest of the low
These niggers will defend their chair streams tooth and nail

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102339
Imagine being unable to counter a discussion on the market and how businesses have laid people off and only being able to discuss in terms of clips from reddit and youtube. Bub there's a retard here and it's you. Now fuck off and die, newfag, we have real things to talk about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102547
wtf musk and twitter even have in common with twitch? Are you brain damaged? By you same idiotic logic youtube should had been out of market decades ago.

[Anonymous No.]

Bros, I'm going to Holofes in March.
I'm going to Japan, to Makuhari Messe, to wave a penlight for my oshi, whose stage I was lucky enough to win the ticket lottery for.

It's also an excuse to visit Japan

[Ironmouse No.]

>>68102626
maybe you'll catch an hour long stream if you're lucky

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102626
YWNBJ

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102688
Stream? Anon, it's a concert
https://streamable.com/yd2n8d

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100358
Twitch KR is already dead.
Its for real this time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102717
Anon, my oshi is in Hololive English. I'm not going to be Japanese: I had no other reason to visit Japan before this.
In fact, my friends scolded me because I was originally planning to go to Japan just for the concert, and leave right after.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101725
Holy shit. Catalog is filled with monkeys because their streamers only stream for 2-3 hours a day. It all fucking make sense now

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101808
>hololive
>only streams from one channel counts
>twitchtuber
>streams from.all channels count
Huh?? I thought you fags always shit on holofags for only caring about the company

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102626
I also got a ticket to the Expo

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103101
NTA but WTF are you talking about anon?

[Anonymous No.]

kson only streams for about 3 hours three or four times a week

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103172
There are like 70 girls in Hololive. There is always at least one streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103185
and????

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103172
The argument you make anytime someone chooses to not harass hololive members in response to someone getting fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103205
You're here shitting on holos for streaming the same amount.
Looks like the reason why you have so much time to shit up /vt/ is because kson doesn't stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103280
??? I don't watch kson (?)

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102895
A shit tier concert mogged by twitch indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103312
I enjoy it though, anon.
That's all that matters.
Also, link to the Twitch indie concert?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103351
Your taste is bad and you pay hundreds to see something that's not worth a cent.

[Anonymous No.]

Things twitchfags are proud of
>"sleeping streams"
>subathons where its a dick measuring contest on who gets the most "subs" = aka "free amazon prime membership" from gullibe viewers
>"react content" where you watch other peoples content because I'm a lazy fuck that dont know how to entertain my audience"

Meanwhile holo and niji get real money from real people.
Don't need to rely other people's content to entertain their audience.
And they don't inflate their streaming hours a because they don't count sleeping as stream time.

Twitch vtubers are a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103280
hi lingling

[Anonymous No.]

>kshart shows up like the dog it is
lmao
now just say that hololive is garbage

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097821
Yeah, slow modes tend to make chats slower. Do you retards even think?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103508
lingling moment

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103436
It's holo and niji that are a joke because all of their streamers are lazy and greedy sacks of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103436
Ok you almost got me. This is a fantastic bait.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103436
Whatever helps you cope with your lack of streams anon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Hololive is easy mode of vtubing.
>you don't need to stream more than 2 hours a day
>you don't need to stream more than 3 days per week
>you can take month long breaks several times a year
Anybody who would follow the same schedule on twitch would fall off the face of the earth immediately. I kinda like fauna, but the fact that she can't commit makes it impossible for me to enjoy her streams for example. I know it's irrational, but it is what it is.

[Anonymous No.]

Great to see the twitchtuber fans finally showing their true colors and attacking the streamers in hololive directly rather than pretending that their dislike was only against the company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102926
Good for you then, have fun

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103436
>bringing up Kurosanji as an unconditional positive
Ah, I get it now, this is just yet another deflection thread. Seethe more, Nijicuck.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103651
>attack
>some guy disappointed that Fauna doesn't stream
You are a fucking baby.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Once again she proves she’s the superior orca by doing nothing

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103689
Try reading the rest of the thread, anti.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103202
I don't speak Japanese anon, neither does most of this board. I'm not going to watch streams in a language I don't understand. There are 13 HoloEN members.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103692
>no streams
>superior

[Anonymous No.]

>>68102366
I personally have a handful of vtubers I watch consistently, who number fewer than HoloEN, and whose hours cover literally my entire day, every day.
It's a rare occasion when I need to branch outside of my favorites. I got home at 2PM, it is now 4:30AM, and I have been in just five streams.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096038
You forgot to mention that you can get 2 views per IP address too.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103726
So no one else can watch Japanese streams because you personally do not speak Japanese.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103436
It's crazy how all of this is significantly more important to seething Holocels than it has ever been to Twitch viewers

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103719
Try watching a hololive stream that's longer than an hour
Oh wait you can't kek

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103838
No? I'm explaining to you why I watch Twitch vtubers instead of Hololive. If I was a completely different person maybe I would watch HoloJP, who knows.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103923
This isn't about you and your preferences.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103949
Then what is it about? Japanese streams that, generously, 3% of this board can understand?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103911
There you go again directly shitting on all hololive members for being lazy.
I thought you were supposed to pretend to not be hostile towards them?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103994
Why would I not shit on lazy whores?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103949
Your argument is "there's always someone streaming" which is true in a vacuum

But if you haven't noticed, this is an English website and everyone here is speaking English, so the reasonable assumption is that people here are watching English-speaking streams.

You're blatantly ignoring practical reality because things look better on paper.

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>>68095129
people said her new model made her look tired heres the proof

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103994
You know Twitch vtubers get called lazy whores for not streaming too, right
It's not at all because they're in Hololive. It's because they don't stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103185
>>68103280
Rent fucking free... jesus

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103651
>Holobabby's first exposure to critique of his oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104024
You started crying when you got called out for attacking them.

>>68104074
The point was that you fags always pretend that you do not hate the individual streamers but the company and now your true nature is coming out. You always hated the streamers themselves.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104161
If you can't handle bantz you may prefer the hololive subreddit instead.

[Anonymous No.]

stop replying to lingling
that bug is only here because he wanted shit on kson in a thread that has nothing to do with her

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks for the reminder about "why I quit watching Twitch".

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104138
It's far from the first time. This is just one of the few times I see you not trying to mask it as mere dislike for the corpo and not having anything against the streamers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104161
I don't hate them at all, I just don't watch them because they're never live.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104254
But you do hate them. You just called them lazy whores.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104161
>You always hated the streamers themselves.
Me? Not at all. I don't find them entertaining enough to watch, but I have no reason to hate them.

All that's being said is that they're lazy for not streaming. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, their own fans on this board are significantly more mean about.

If they just streamed, then nobody in this thread would be saying anything. Get it?

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jesus I am glad karma exist and twitch is dying and losing money. I can't believe youtube will win the streaming war without even trying lol

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104277
There are multiple people involved in this conversation.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104277
You have a child's understanding of emotions.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104243
Nobody hates them, we hate you, so we are shitting on them because it gets under your skin. They have a good hustle going on and I respect that. I wish I could work for 6 hours a week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104032
There's always someone for the holofags to watch. You are not one so your opinion on who you would and wouldn't watch doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104323
And? You all agree that hololive and the people in it are bad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103838
Holy fuck I watch Hololive but JFC you are the whiniest bunch of intellectually deflated babies on this board. At least Nijiniggers can cunningy buttress their bootlicking with Hasbara-grade disinfo. Is it any wonder everyone here hates you here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104281
But they do stream. Seems like according to you if someone isn't doing a subathon they're not streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68101808
>>68101855
^ unironically exactly this
never thought i'd see the day when somebody would actually state facts /here/

[Anonymous No.]

What is subathon?
Does Twitch require money just to subscribe talents?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104346
No there isn't, they have frequent dead hours.
t. former holofag

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100913
Still means nothing with shit like regional pricing and taxes, and then Twitch is running out of money. If YouTube is getting shafted by lower ad revenue and sponsors tapped out, the same is happening to Twitch by now. Do some research nigger.

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>>68095253
And it's all the fault of gullible men who incentivize that. If males would stop giving them money, they would cease to exist.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104346
>There's always someone for the holofags to watch
Yeah, if they speak Japanese

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104411
>Stop liking what I don't like
That's literally the argument you're siding with. Anon doesn't like Japanese vtubers so no one else can like them

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100519
nta but Twitch itself used to ban this kind of shit with extreme prejudice. now people like you are defending it.

where's the content. where's the quality. what is the point other than a cynical cashgrab and false advertising of whatever 24 hour+ kind of stream only they are actually gone for like half of it anyway. again if you said that before you used to have to actually be there streaming for a marathon.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103396
Link to Twitch indie concert that mogs Hololive?
Or you're lying

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>>68100913
Partner plus looks like a gigantic scam. Not even guranteed to get into that shit just like how people get rejected 5 fucking times in a row despite meeting partner requirements.

Why does Twitch force so many retards to jump through hoops to even get a better split when youtube and kick just gives it away no problem? They know that 90% of twitch streamers will never make more than $300 in a month from streams/ads anyway.

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>>68103838
>>68104138
Holy fuck I watch Hololive myself but JFC, you are the whiniest bunch of thin-skinned intellectually deflated babies on this board. At least Nijiniggers can cunningy buttress their bootlicking with Hasbara-grade disinfo. Is it any wonder everyone here hates you here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104461
It's a marathon stream where viewers can increase the length of the stream through twitch's equivalent of sending superchats and memberships.

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>>68104438
I am constantly seeing posts with charts showing just how little HoloEN streams

>>68104461
Different nomenclature.
Sub on YT = follow on Twitch
Sub on Twitch = membership on YT

>>68104475
>do some research
>Twitch is running out of money
Ironic

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>>68103838
>>68104243
Holy fuck I watch Hololive myself but JFC, you are the whiniest bunch of thin-skinned intellectually deflated babies on this board. At least Nijiniggers can cunningy buttress their bootlicking with Hasbara-grade disinfo. Is it any wonder everyone here hates you here?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104548
I never said there was any concert. This shylily subathon mogs holo concerts for example.

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>>68104555
>Why does Twitch force so many retards to jump through hoops to even get a better split when youtube and kick just gives it away no problem? They know that 90% of twitch streamers will never make more than $300 in a month from streams/ads anyway.
You kind of answered your own question.
The overwhelming majority like literally 98% of streamers on the site, are costing them bandwidth and storage while not pulling in any revenue to make up for it.

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>>68104596
Why are you limiting this to holoEN when you love to post about how mouse totally destroy JP holos?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104688
I'm so glad the IMCHAD lives rent free in your monkey head.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104713
So you admit that you're limiting hololive to EN only just because you're a dishonest piece of shit.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104735
You're talking to a different guy, no idea what that argument is about. EN is a superior language though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100519
My 2view actually stayed awake for a 24 hour stream so I’m just happy I actually get content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104688
I've never made a post like that

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104799
Your side did.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104818
>Your side
>one falseflagging >>68104799
schizo in /#/

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104818
>numberape tries not to think in tribal terms challenge

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104818
This isn’t a team sport faggot, don’t make people take responsibility for “being on the wrong team”

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
Umm holofagchama?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV-sBcj5MVQ

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104888
https://files.catbox.moe/xkjlj9.webm
don't forget this classic

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104818
I got nothin' to say to this
It's just sad

[Anonymous No.]

Twitch is doom doe, in like 3 months these ratios are up. (Even usa drop value on primes and let me tell you like 60% of sub are prime)

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104852
>says the guy thay unconditionally hates hololive
rumao

>>68104876
Looking at this thread liking hololive despite their "inability" to do a several days long continuous stream that you were never going to watch in it's entirety is being on the wrong team according to many people.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68099828
Is this some kind of en viewers like to watch en content in general argument or are you actually using the argument that JP vtubers don't get the same numbers as EN vtubers overall?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68104641
Not disliking individual streamers under hololive for only doing 3 hour streams is bootlicking?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105065
Jp vtubers are not even close to the levels of success EN vtubers have

[Anonymous No.]

>holokeks complain about streams longer than 2 hours
>indiechads retaliate
>back and forth for 200 posts
>discussion ends abruptly when a number monkey cries nonstop that people are being mean to hololive
you'd think the people from the worst thread on the board would have thicker skin

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105174
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105197
So are you finally going to admit that you hate the hololive girls? Stop being a pussy and just say it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105241
Shylily just bought a company. JP chuubas are all corporate slaves who own nothing.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105285
who?
I don't watch 2views

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105285
Are you acting like JP indies just don’t exist or something?

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>>68105277

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>>68105011
>that you were never going to watch in it's entirety
Twitch viewers are fine with not watching every second of every stream

I get that it's difficult to grasp that concept when you've only known having 5 hours of stream to watch per week, but it's extremely common on Twitch to feel that it's either live or nothing. VODs just ain't the same and if you miss it, oh well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105323
>who?
Nigga did you even look at the thread before clicking on it

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105379
yeah, but I don't know who that is
should I? 5K on a special stream is 3view shit

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105331
There is no JP indie scene, there's a hololeech, the tiktok meme woman, and the ASMR hag. Literally only 3 who matter. The whole country is corporate.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68098749
>he rather watch connor than mouse
Kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105336
So this is what you all look like when someone likes hololive in your vicinity and those stream length numbers are not high enough.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097821
Imagine what happen after twitch implement their new prime sub policy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105331
There are no successful JP indies and none of them stream as much as western indies.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68100358
>twitch kr dead
Twitch dying is correct.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105545
>none of them stream as much as western indies.
I guess none of them ever thought of just leaving the stream on when they weren’t actually there.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105350
Thanks for demonstrating how not disliking hololive puts someone into the wrong team in your mind.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105402
>should I?
Well, it's who the thread was about (initially, at least)
So yeah, probably.
Aside from that, she is one of the biggest EN vtubers in the scene.
>5K on a special stream is 3view shit
Since fucking when

>>68105645
The fuck are you talking about

[Anonymous No.]

Hololive fans deserve streamers who appreciate them and go beyond the bare minimum.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105708
>The fuck are you talking about
If someone doesn't hate hololive for only providing 5 hours of streams they're in the wrong team

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>>68104818

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>>68105777
I never said that

[Anonymous No.]

>>68097564
>for IDF

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>>68104281
NTA but why would they follow twitch concept of slave hour(twitch recommend stream 9-5 chart for bonus pays)? They more than just a streamer and it always been that way since 2021, you don't see twitch chubba doing a concert and going to japan to training and collab with actual artist with sponsporship. The angle of attack for hololive are always lack of stream, it pathetic tb h. Also holofan already know they always have actual work bts than streaming, those hour long meeting to coordinate merch release and store collab, everybody know whoever complain about lazy are likely shitstirrer.

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>>68105832
You just did
>I get that it's difficult to grasp that concept when you've only known having 5 hours of stream to watch per week
Someone not being mad about only having 5 hours of streams to watch means they must be retarded and wrong according to you.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105899
Vtuber fans don't give a shit about any of that
streams>all of that trash

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>>68105902

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>>68105934
You're that guy that pretended to like Mel but she only streamed for 5 hours a week and she doesn't even speak English.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105902
>5 hours of stream to watch per week
what's up with the hyperbole? literally only chuubas like gura that do get shit on for not streaming has such piss poor hours, FWMC easily have over 20 on a bad week

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105769
>Hololive fans deserve streamers who appreciate them and go beyond the bare minimum
Those types of streamers are able to naturally become 4view indies, and no longer want to join a restrictive Japanese corpo. Unfortunately this means that En Holofans have to settle for vtubers who were 2view or low 3view Twitch streamers in their past life that were never good enough to become successful vtubers on their own.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106007
>Those types of streamers are able to naturally become 4view indies
lol
lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105997
I'm that guy who shits on tribalfags. I'm here shitting on retards complaining that a woman streams all day. Not surprising to see which side you're on, ape.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106051
You pretended to watch Mel but it's now obvious that you never actually watched her since she doesn't fulfill your requirements for a vtuber that you would watch.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106005
I checked just to be sure and Fauna, who's supposed to be one of the most popular, streamed a total of ~30 hours in all of January. My oshi streams more than that every week.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106005
Please shit on Marine for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
>fucks the ceo of twitch
>accepts any sposnorshit
>now is a partial owner of gamesups
>and after all of that, she has the audacity to do a moneymilkathon
Jesus Christ, even jewcorp isn't that greedy.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106122
I watched Mel since 2020, and there's more than one guy in this thread. Feel free to add whatever random shit you see to my lore though I don't give a shit. You see a doctor about your autism yet?

[Anonymous No.]

This thread is funny as fuck, but knowing that there are dudes on this board who watch sleeping streams and love pogchamps jokes is also kind of sad. I mean, watch whatever you want I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106148
What the deal with this “5 hours of streaming” angle anyway, it’s not like Holo doesn’t have talents like Kaela or Koyori that are perfectly capable of making plenty of content.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106207
Then you would know that she would often disappear and not stream for several days or even weeks. How can you like someone that doesn't stream for you 24/7? She doesn't even speak English so you don't understand her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106301
What criteria do you use for assigning different Anon's posts to me? It's very weird.

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>>68106301
Liking hololive means you only like one of them but liking indies means you like 40 of them and only watch streams that are live.
Also you can't watch Koyori because she's Japanese and you can't understand her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106413
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106369
I never said it was you saying this specifically, I just don’t really know if it even matters overall
>>68106413
If you want more EN examples you can throw Mori, Bae, Bijou, and FWMC into the camp of actually streaming.

[Anonymous No.]

Only twitchfags argument are "muh streaming hours"
Twitchfags watch heir streamer watch paint dry for 24 hours and call it "content" and they all just eat it up and call other strramers who doesnt stream as much "lazy whores"
What a pathetic sad excuse of a life twitchfags are.

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>>68106413
>Liking hololive means you only like one of them
Nah, I watch all of Hololive and even just on the EN side it's almost impossible to watch ALL of them even with multiple streams open at the same time (even more so after Advents debut)

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106611
>playing video games on stream
:|
>playing video games on stream, hololive
:O

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106611
yep, they literally just use them as background sound for their ADHD fried brains instead of actually watching them

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106646
But what do you watch when they all stop streaming? Nothing. This is why TwitchCHADS win

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106652
>playing video games on stream
I only see a lazy whore sleeping on the OP

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106652
Hololive actually plays games instead of sleeping and watching videos on stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106692
Vods? I'm hardly keeping up with my backlog even on x2 speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106715
hololive doesn't really do anything these days

[Anonymous No.]

VODcuckery not even once

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106721
Only retards watch vods

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106721
vod instead of a live stream? must be a corpokek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106721
vodbro if you're watching on firefox try the enhancer for youtube and you can go beyond 2x speed

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106756
>>68106770
>>68106782
But a "sleeping" vtuber model is the peak of live interaction?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68096539
I always wonder how they manage to be so silent as if they muted their mic. If I streamed myself sleeping it'd be nonstop snoring, bed creaking, sleep mumbling and farting.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095129
>Subathon
>PWEASEE IM BEGGING YOU, MONEYY PWEASEEE
>sleep on stream

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106770
Vods just aren’t the same. I mostly lurk but I dunno, I want the option to chat. I only revisit vod if it’s streamer I like AND specific content I like. It’s like Netflix to me, I spend more time browsing the backlog than actually clicking in to watch

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106859
yes shylily sleeping is better than a holoshill selling merch or whatever it is they do

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106859
That's why most people play vods while they sleep so you can watch with chat

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106891
>or whatever it is they do
At least pretend you know anything about the thing you’re complaining about.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106937
says the idiot that doesn't know we sleep with our oshi.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106770
>>68106782
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ you asked, I answered. It's not like your opinions are going to make me stop watching vods or watch anyone outside of Hololive

>>68106799
Thanks, I don't use firefox but I'll give it a try if there's no chrome equivalent

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095253
In the past women needed to sleep with you to get money, now they can do it just in twitch!!!

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106891
Orcuck, she has a merch plug in every stream title, and every time she does something other than watching youtube videos or talking about nothing for hours, she does it because she was paid to do it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106991
don't care i don't watch her

[Anonymous No.]

>>68105899
>holos have to spend hours upon hours in meetings to sell merch and set up shop collabs and this is why they never stream
Legitimately fucking grim.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68107045
If only they had managers...

[Anonymous No.]

>>68107045
Not really, it’s just a matter of what you actually want from your career. If you’re happy just streaming then thats fine, but if you’re actually interested in pursuing idol shit then Holo is probably a dream come true.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68095617
You make it sound like women are stable and not fucked up.
The majority are broken beyond repair, so it's not like they deserve a good man. They think they do though.

[Anonymous No.]

>>68103436
Holo
>and niji
>real people
lmao nice bait
You thought you could sneak that by us huh

[Anonymous No.]

>>68107483
a talent having to do a talent manager's job is nobody's dream

[Anonymous No.]

why can't she take a few lines and stream 48h straight?

[Anonymous No.]

>>68106715
>Hololive actually plays games
like 40% of the time when they aren't held back by jap corpo perms lmao

[Anonymous No.]

>>68108067
I tried that once but it doesn't work. You can't sleep, but your brain is still tired.

[Anonymous No.]

what you expected from vodwatchers and clipwatchers? They have all these free time to make shitty threads like this KEK

[Anonymous No.]

>>68108702
well to be honest LSD is better for that, coke fades away quickly in comparison