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67672171 No.67672171 [Reply] [Original]

>still no palworld perms
Why is nijisanji like this

>> No.67673184 [DELETED] 
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67673184

Nijinigs coping with "They don't want to stream that game anyway" is peak comedy

>> No.67673582

perms from the game company or from anycolor? i don't think the game company gives a shit who streams it

>> No.67673654

>>67672171
read the room nigga

>> No.67674866

>>67672171
I would love it if the company just refused them. Like only them and told them to fuck off because they have a grudge for some reason.

>> No.67675097
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67675097

>>67672171
HAHAHAHA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWQgI1MGn3s

>> No.67675100

>>67672171
They have perma perms from Pokemon Company which no one else has.
This is one of the few times Nijisanji made the right call, since you don't want to piss off the pokemon company and have them pull their perms just for the latest FotM game.

>> No.67675751

>>67672171
imagine being such a shit company that you deny your talents the easy views game.

>> No.67677500

wait is there no palworld at nijisanji?
shit i may need to refollow elira and rosemi

>> No.67677588
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>>67675097
Wanna fuck Shiina's thighs into oblivion.

>> No.67677620

>>67675100
How does a Chinese company get permanent Pokemon perms anyway?

>> No.67677734

>>67672171
are they always this hostile towards their fanbase?

>> No.67677815

>>67677734
Those aren't her fans. More like her friends / acquaintances

>> No.67678491

>Get a direct and exclusive permission deal from Nintentdo/GameFreak/TPC
>Do nothing different from any other streamer in terms of exclusivity or first access
>Still have to tip toe around them when it comes to "knock offs"
What was the purpose of the partnership again?

>> No.67678569

>>67677620
Japanese boomers betray.

>> No.67678646

>>67678491
Yacht fund

>> No.67678806

>>67678491
Wrong.
They can do big events like a competitive or casual/joke format pokemon tournament or have Pokemon Unite crossbranch collabs.

>> No.67678894

>>67672171
>pokemon lawsuits
kek

>> No.67678996

>>67677734
Yes the answer is yes

>> No.67679004

>>67678806
but doesn't holo also do that though and are streaming palworld right now?????
niji is just fumbling over a non existing scenario

>> No.67679126

>>67673184
The actual cope on the JP side is that Niji is the morally superior company for not playing palworld

>> No.67679178

Palworld refuses to grant perms to a black company

>> No.67679245

>>67678491
So livers can do normal Pokemon streams whenever, and Sasaki doesn't leave again.

>> No.67679329

>>67672171
what stream was this posted in?

>> No.67679366

>>67677500
Honestly I think I would rather they didn't have Palworld lol we have gotten Rosemi Tekken 8 that Harada noticed, Elira is playing Apollo Justice Ace Attonrey Trilogy tonight, Vivi has been playing MGS4 and Killer 7. Any one of those streams is preferable.

>> No.67679392

>>67679004
Holo has to do tournaments through NND just for temporary perms, Niji has permanent perms

>> No.67679595

>>67679366
Tekken 8 after 2 years of rosemi not being allowed to even touch tekken 7

>> No.67679775

>>67679595
Yeah its been great, like the culmination of a major character arc. So many jokes and skits based around wanting to play it and get noticed and then it eventually happened one day.

>> No.67679867

>>67679366
This is like the time when Hololive couldn't stream Genshin (and still can't) while everyone else was spamming it.

>> No.67680456

>>67679329
n0pants

>> No.67680523

>>67672171
Do you not have enough palworld to watch already?

>> No.67680985

>>67680523
I'll say this, when HoloEN girls do a server game, they go in 1 at a time mostly, but NijiEN will do impromptu zatsus and shenanigans for hours on end
Watching Biboo complete her chores on the server right now is pretty sleep inducing

>> No.67683006

>>67675097
>palworld at home

>> No.67683087

>>67679366
Kek id rather not watch a black company

>> No.67683137

>>67679775
>watching rosemi get cucked has been great.
retardchama…

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>>67672171
>pokemon lawsuits
this shit wont go to anywhere, no matter what shit /vp/ shills might say

>> No.67685924
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>>67677620
>they CAN stream using 3rd party software AND emulators
honestly I don't have idea how they did it

>> No.67685928
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>>67672171
unwilling to give black companies perms
>based

>> No.67688225

>>67685924
having superior talent helps

>> No.67690045

>>67672171
Nijisanji has a pretty close relationship with Nintendo/Gamefreak. They're not gonna risk ruining that so they can play a fotm game.

>> No.67691157

>>67690045
this. i remember selen one time said they had ALL pokemon perms.

>> No.67691263

>>67677620
The same way Konami only granted permission for Niji and not Holo for a long, long time in the past. Niji livers were even the ambassador for Yugioh event for a while. It has only changed recently

>> No.67691407

https://youtu.be/jWQgI1MGn3s
https://youtu.be/W4AoBCc3V98
https://youtu.be/SXTPJbzOd7c
https://youtu.be/5EFM3faUfmo
https://youtu.be/yoby4OStNhs
https://youtu.be/lawJPZTGTzc
https://youtu.be/-r_VZFC9WMw
https://youtu.be/9NRpuUgtluc
https://youtu.be/QkNKlVBOIRA
https://youtu.be/qtsa2n5zcok
https://youtu.be/8T2UbpaiZ_A
https://youtu.be/CVz0u42LHX8
https://youtu.be/QUiON2AkPYw
https://youtu.be/aMlo7cC5jAA
https://youtu.be/jPolqTTvA0Y
https://youtu.be/lusLywEj-eo
https://youtu.be/9Xvi4Nf7AyI
https://youtu.be/vEVBtLqrX0M
https://youtu.be/3CWlRr84DmE
https://youtu.be/x9uBAn1j1pg
20 pokemon streams in 1 week, there is no reason to risk the perm to get that rip off game that the trend will die after 1 month

>> No.67691531

>>67677620
Like how they got Sony to become an investor of the company. Like it or not, they got more corpo connection in Japan than Cover

>> No.67692642

>>67672171
nobody wants to play it your copycat shit game

>> No.67692704

You get palworld.
I get Tekken 8 and Mount & Blade.

>> No.67693332

>>67675100
Holy Cope

>> No.67694224

>>67691407
cm on now pokemon has been dead for a while now, how many people you think still plays sv kek

>> No.67695863

>>67672171
no one cares, palworld is shit.

>> No.67697232

>>67672171
>Still no Tekken perms
Why is hololive like this

>> No.67698376

>no craftingslop streams
>Harada is a rosebud
Niji can't stops winning

>> No.67698519

>>67697232
Wtf is this then?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmwXP9wxOAw
Or nijinigger keep having selective memories again?

>> No.67700402

>>67672171
Why does it matter?

>> No.67701784

>>67675097
>we have palworld at home

>> No.67701794

>>67672171
Why do streamers need permissions anyway? I'm pretty sure most of them, even big ones, just play the games and that's it.

>> No.67701805

>>67698519
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NIJIBROS DON'T LOOK

>> No.67701813

>>67701794
NIP AUTISM

>> No.67701821

>>67672171
Their permails go to devs thrasbin as devs do not like men

>> No.67701938

>>67672171
>no palworld perms
I might start watching Nijisanji.

>> No.67702138

>>67691407
holy fucking coping tendie

>> No.67702179

>>67701938
do that. stay there. other places don't want you. you belong with that dogshit company faggot cunt lmao

>> No.67702706

>>67694224
>replies to a post literally linking 20 streams from the past week
>"the game is dead"
??????

>> No.67702850

>>67677620
You have to understand that within Japan Niji is bigger than Holo.

>> No.67703038

>>67685924
They cannot. Any DS stream you see is just a DS with with capture software installed.

>> No.67703183

>>67702850
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS STILL BELIEVE

>> No.67703817

>>67703183
it's true, hololive is more popular in SEA and latin america than Japan, Nijisanji generally performs better

>> No.67703861

>>67703817
AND OTHER HILARIOUS JOKES NIJINIGGERS TELL THEMSELVES

>> No.67703923
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>>67703861
Anycolor's stock also performs better than Cover's btw

>> No.67704016

>>67703923
Nijiniggers truly are the only fanbase who use "look how much money our company is making" as a defence

>> No.67704150

>>67704016
Yes? Being more successful is a good thing, holocucks who don't spend money are deadweight and the reason hololive is failing

>> No.67704157

>>67703923
of course it does, most of the money that usually goes to the liver goes back to the nvestor
why do you think their lives get almost no salary and only get 2%?

>> No.67704173

>>67704016
KEK
They never said "How much we paid our Livers"
It's always "How much money we can profit from our Livers"

>> No.67704188

>>67704150
yes, being more successful is a good thing, this is not the same thing as going "LOL LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY OUR COMPANY MAKES, YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALID" whenever you're losing an argument

>> No.67704241

>>67704157
Why do Holowhores do porn on the side to pay their bills?

>> No.67704396
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67704396

>>67698376
>ESL
>nijifaggot
like clockwork.

>> No.67704492

>>67672171
I'm literally drowning in palworld streams, this is as bad as pokemon season. I'm close to being forced to watch niji

>> No.67704651

>>67703923
>Talk about stocks
>Post Google trends image
lmao

>> No.67705159

>>67672171
Who cares? The Palworld fad is already dying. In a week nobody will even remember that game exists.

>> No.67705276

>>67705159
>Niji sour grapes

>> No.67705413
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67705413

Is it because they don't wanna risk losing Pokemon perms? Or is there some other reason why Anycolor isn't letting their vtubers stream Palworld?

>> No.67705424

>>67704150
it's a good thing when your oshi is the company
some of us are actually here for the chuubas, but I guess you wouldn't understand
>hololive is failing
kek

>> No.67705913

>>67705413
Anything said /here/ is speculation, but the Pokemon perms is probably it.
Though if I'm being honest its a pretty stupid reason, the amount of people that play pokemon a lot in nijiEN or JP is fairly small.

>> No.67706015

rEaD tHe RoOm

>> No.67706022

>>67705413
Palworld really did mindbreak Nintendo if that's the case.

>> No.67706284

>>67672171
>He actually wants to watch that shitty FOTM game
nijifags are NEVER going to make it

>> No.67706975

>>67705913
>>67691407
>small
>over 20 streams

>> No.67708818

>>67673582
The company gives free streaming perms so obviously it's nijisanji blocking it

>> No.67708845

>>67673654
Yeah, and the room says nijisanji black company

>> No.67709804

>>67698519
>Only homos are playing it
Grim

>> No.67710596

>>67706284
Shit's going to be flavor of the decade I'm calling it. It's a generational indie success. It won't be permanently popular, but people will always come back to it each time new content is added.

>> No.67711299

>>67705913
I mean just looking at streams holo still hasn't even gotten to play the newest pokemon DLC while niji has.

>> No.67711503

>>67698519
>Homos
Doesn’t count.
>inb4 “I-IT’S NOT THEIR FAULT THAT THE GIRLS HAVE SHIT TASTE!”
Kys nijisister

>> No.67711813

>>67698519
>male
>hololive

>> No.67714635

>>67711503
NIJICOPE

>> No.67715137

every agency that streams palworld will be sued into bankruptcy and their talents will be forced to prostitute themselves for nintendo's legal fees

>> No.67715650

>>67715137
NINTENDIES COPE

>> No.67719384

>>67693332
It's facts kid.

>> No.67722525

>>67672171
dothey really don't have permissions?
the dev gives copies to anyone who asks

>> No.67723795

>>67672171
should have joined idol, found out today they don't even do perms. Fuyo said they all play whatever, perms arent a thing.

>> No.67727586

>>67723795
they aren't a jp company, so they don't need to deal with jp perms autism.

>> No.67729943

>>67672171
As silly as that is.
>wanting more pal
No.

>> No.67730016

>>67701784
MVP post.

>> No.67730173

>>67672171
Why does she always sound so pissed off??

>> No.67733284

>>67730173
She thought she made it but jumped onto a sinking yacht

>> No.67733475

>>67730173
it's just how she types

>> No.67738214

>>67722525
The going theory is not that niji doesn't have palworld perms, but rather that they are afraid of losing pokemon perma perms. Either way, I think I saw somewhere that palworld devs gave away carte blanche perms for anyone who wanted to stream the game anyhow.

>> No.67738791

>>67675100
>Pokemon pulls Niji perms
>Niji plays Palworld
>They get better views than any Pokemon stream

Where's the problem

>> No.67739248

>>67730173
She thought she could've been Holo-lite, but instead she is forced to collab with males (which tanked her viewership for no discernible benefit). 1 out of 3 of her oshi graduated and the 2nd seems to be on verge of it. Probably got to experience first hand the NijiEN management experience as well
You'd have been pissed if you were in her place, too.

>> No.67739615

>>67701784
Pokemon legends arceus is incredible, and honestly it has way more content then palworld, it literally has twice as many mons in it, plus similar world size if you add together the 5 zones, which i think is reasonable to do considering people just fast travel around the world in palworld rather then walking everywhere
(I don’t really care about niji, i just like legends arceus a lot)

>> No.67741144

>>67739615
NINTENCOPE

>> No.67741719

>>67677620
I like Hololive as much as the next guy, but the fact is that Anycolors is WAY more, and better connected in the business world than Cover, they have been doing deals up there since before Cover became publicly traded

>> No.67742195

>>67739615
Arceus was fun and it does the one part I actually like Palworld for infinitely better than Palword just based purely on the fact I actually give a fuck about Pokemon where as the legally distinct Pokemon in Palworld are just there to be caught and not cared about in any significant way.

>> No.67742309

>>67694224
>Pokemon has been dead for a while
If that were true people wouldn't be desperately trying to shill some survival slop game purely for it's rip off Pokemon.

>> No.67742469

>>67741719
This, down to the textbook layoffs = profitability thing

>> No.67742474

>>67701794
This used to be the case until Mio's channel almost got nuked into oblivion because Capcom wake up one day and decide to strike her streams of some random ass game no one else has even heard of that she had played months prior. Now Nip corpo's don't want to risk that shit so they play it safe, even when it's only really over Nip game devs and publishers they have to worry about.

>> No.67744033

>>67742474
Remember that nijiniggers were the ones who pestered capcom until they kneecapped Mio

>> No.67746654

>>67678491
Holos cant organize tournament outside new release perm window

>> No.67746916

>>67679004
Holo isn't allowed to stream Pokemon outside of first few weeks after release on specific channels in specific circumstances. Nijis can do whatever they want whenever they want.
...that's honestly the only real advantage Niji has

>> No.67747058

I find it hard to believe Pokémon would be so petty that they'd take away perms for someone playing pal world. It must be nijisanji being way too careful

>> No.67747183

>>67747058
Yes.
They're probably scared shitless after all the yabs like Gundou last year endangering their baseball sponsorships.

>> No.67748124

>>67747058
Underestimate the pettiness of nip corpos at your peril. Yes in this situation there's likely no harm but even if something is totally legal and threatens no current deals, a pissed off director at corp B can make things extra difficult for corp A in the future. Silicon Valley and the traitorous eight could never happen in japan

>> No.67750287

>>67742195
>legally distinct Pokemon in Palworld are just there to be caught and not cared about in any significant way.
i disagree with this completely. the thing palworld does much better than pokemon is actually giving the pals opportunities for you to connect and appreciate them. instead of some pokemon a mie knock-off where you can't even see yourself interacting with the pokemon you call them over and your character pets them. the rideable pals are actually the ones you caught instead of some random one that only exists for you to ride. them being able to work at base gives you ample opportunity to see them doing their thing and learn what their personalities are like. pokemon's biggest flaw is that the pokemon don't actually feel like creatures in the world, and yours especially feel like lifeless weapons you equip for battle. pokemon aren't the stars of pokemon game, the gay human characters are.

>> No.67750670

>>67738791
>Where's the problem
Pokemon will have another release next year, Palworld wont. Pokemon is absolutely much more valuable than Palworld even if Palworld is drawing more viewers right now. Rust was absolutely massive in hololive but look at how many Rust streams they're doing now.

>> No.67752300

>>67675100
Find a more boring game to stream than pokemon.

>> No.67752345

>>67750670
every pokemon game is the same boring shit so not a big loss

>> No.67752623

>>67704241

think you're looking at the wrong company nijicuck.

>> No.67756685

>>67708818
Real shit? Why?

>> No.67759602

>>67756685
Because nijisanji is in bed with Nintendo and doesn't want daddy Nintendo to whip their ass

>> No.67760756

>>67672171
READ THE ROOM

>> No.67762275

palworld is so boring now, i only watch my oshi play it, they're better off

>> No.67762276

>>67760756
No

>> No.67762551

>>67750670
Pokemon won't grow or change, people will give it a week of view (if that) and go back to the adaptive and interesting market (Palworld).
I wish GameFreak would change and be able to compete, but the only thing that interested me lately (Arceus) was still only half-baked and I've played since Red/Blue up until Black2/White2.
I want the Pokemon Company to do better, but they've shown that they don't care, I like some Nijis but I'm a die-hard Holo fan at heart and both sides have staked their claims and in my eyes Holo (and fuck Game Freak) is winning.

>> No.67765363

>>67704651
>nijinigger intelligence

>> No.67768854

>>67723795
>>67727586
Copyright law is the same everywhere, streaming games isn't covered by fair use. Publishers generally choose not to enforce this, but when the streamers represent a company and that company gets big enough, they may want a formal agreement and a piece of the pie, as we saw with hololive.
This is probably why vshojo operates in a weird grey area where they're clearly acting like a corpo group but constantly reiterate that they're a talent agency and the members operate independently.

>> No.67769296

>>67739248
>but instead she is forced to collab with males (which tanked her viewership for no discernible benefit)
Did this really happen? Got the data? I want to laugh

>> No.67769353

>>67768854
>Copyright law is the same everywhere
this is just false, but not really relevant to why it's not common for let's players and streamers to get attacked by games publishers in the west. everytime in the past when a publisher went after streamers they got massive push back from the community. even nintendo for the most part stopped trying to take down streams because the amount of bad press out way the benefits.

>> No.67769554

>>67769353
and you can thank people like total buscuit for that.
If only the nips had a similar figure on their side maybe they would be less retarded

>> No.67769608

>>67769353
It's true as far as video game streams go, in that even the most permissive form of fair use would not permit video game streams because they're not transformative, which makes the distinction between the US and Japan irrelevant.
And like I said, if it's streamers representing a company and that company gets big enough, that outweighs the PR aspect. Nobody cares about some guy on Twitch streaming a game, but they care if you're making money for a publicly listed corporation with tens of millions in revenue by streaming it.

>> No.67769951

>>67769608
>It's true as far as video game streams go, in that even the most permissive form of fair use would not permit video game streams because they're not transformative
point to the court case where this was settled.

>> No.67770003

>>67769554
the problem is totally different cultural attitudes, back when Mori blundered into this with the begging stream for Persona perms she was getting flamed on JP twitter for making trouble for Atlus (even though Atlus themselves didn't actually care)

>> No.67770037

>>67770003
why are nips such cucks?

>> No.67770134

>>67769951
>court
Nice joke anon
YouTube and Twitch both comply with takedown requests and reject any appeals, meaning their lawyers have decided that's probably correct, and nobody can afford to argue

>> No.67770549

Good.

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