/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

Just get it over with already.

[Anonymous No.]

Just get over it already. She fucked up so she deserves to go.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158471
OP just wants to see termination announcement. Why she's in fucking limbo for so long?

[Anonymous No.]

Dragoons developing a new mental illness every week as it goes on.
Nijisanji put them in purgatory.

[Anonymous No.]

Either let her come back or just rip the bandage off, Kurosanji. The suspense is killing me

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>>67158671
wait till tomorrow, Pomu graduation still lingers

[Anonymous No.]

why does she still post on her other account even tho it graduated a long time ago

[Anonymous No.]

When is the likely estimated timeframe for day 30 of when the suspension ends?

[Anonymous No.]

Ima anti everything nijisanji and will spit and shit on any nijisanji employee i see at cons

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158671
Hololive management has given out "health" breaks that went on for several months. Holostars took several weeks to make their decision with Magni and Vesper. Nijisanji has most likely already decided to fire Selen but are delaying the announcement so they don't lose 2 of their most popular EN talents in the same month.

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>>67158409
But it is over.
This is the end.
This is how it ended.
Tell me anon, was this how you imagined it?

[Anonymous No.]

Be patient. Riku's putting together the mother of all lists of crimes to paint Selen that will make Zaion's departure look like a friendly graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

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>>67158671
>Why she's in fucking limbo for so long?
Because Pomu just graduated. It would look bad to reveal that Selen has graduated/been fired this soon.

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>>67159674
>Riku releases the motherload of slander and defamation
>Selen is too much of a pussy to stand up for herself like Zaion
>reputation forever ruined
Selen, if you're reading this - if they fuck you over, you fuck them over right back!

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
She'll be back. Right after Roa comes back.

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>>67160145
>Roa comeback confirmed
Finally some good news

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>>67160117
hell would break lose. Selen might not be confrontational, but dragoons are getting ready

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>>67158471
hello Nijisanji intern

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>>67160117
Selen if you're reading this go talk to Sayu and maybe you guys can file a lawsuit together

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>>67158471
Fuck off Millie

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>>67161020
She's 15k in debt and Sayu just scrapped enough money to redebut, who the fuck would pay the lawyers?

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>>67160209
Wait, is she really?

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>>67161793
No, it's an exaggeration. But she payed for that Last Cup of Coffee out of pocket (15k+ according to roommate) and as you can imagine the video has been about to recover $0 of that investment since Nijisanji nuked it. Suffice to say this has put her in a somewhat unfortunate financial situation.

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>>67159424
>"health"
Based retard

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
They would certainly want to avoid two graduations the same month, and likely would prefer not to have back to back high-profile graduations over two months either.

However I would guess they might calculate that it'd look worse to keep Selen stuck in purgatory for all of Feb as well and probably will announce something with her before the end of next month. I would guess maybe around mid-Feb so that if they give her a two week window until graduating that would put it over into March which would get around people saying "lmao they're literally losing a top talent every single month" etc. As if that would really help anything at fucking all with their situation really but they seem petty enough to care about that.

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>>67158409
It's possible that NijiEN management doesn't want them both to leave at the same time because that would make them look really bad even to the people who don't pay much attention, and so they're holding off the announcement until they think enough time has passed after Pomu's graduation.

[Anonymous No.]

I like everyone assumes the worst and doesn't consider it's just a monthlong new year break and Selen will be back like nothing happened.

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>>67162818
That's very scummy, because Selen won't have income (besides the PL art commissions)

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>>67162998
yeah surely a new year break, you fucking retard

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>>67158409
Honestly her telling fans to reupload is was the dumbest thing ever. As soon as I saw the tweet I knew that she would get terminated. They most likely privated it due to Nina being in it and could've had it reuploaded with that part cut out but she went the extra mile.

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>>67163104
I'll bet $100 management will punish her for those PL commissions. Maybe it'll even show up on her bullet list

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>>67163304
okay millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163304
she already decided to be terminated in that moment. she wanted the reupload by her fans because she knew they'd force her to cut nina and mysta from the video.

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>>67163104
>That's very scummy
It is, but you probably don't have to worry about her. If she had $15k to throw around on some music video, then she's probably doing very well financially, even if she was robbed of all of it.

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>>67163304
>Honestly her telling fans to reupload is was the dumbest thing ever.
It wasn't dumb. Selen simply ran out of fucks to give and did something that she knew would probably result in her termination because she's fucking done with Nijisanji and their bullshit.

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>>67158409
That's what your mom said to your dad when they conceived you

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163304
I doubt she'd want to work at a place that'd fire her for saying that. She commissioned it, right? It wasn't Niji's project, so even if they have some ownership over the IP in the video, they had no intention of publishing it and shouldn't feel slighted if it's reuploaded some place else. They shouldn't care about it all. They didn't even do anything to help her make it anyways.

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>>67163460
>some music video
for you, but "1-year-long project" for the dragoons and selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
Selen will announce graduation mid way into February followed by millie in March. Heed this prophecy from the great anon.

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>>67163921
Where the fuck is Millie going to go? Even Phase Connect wouldn't want her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163921
>Millie graduates and joins Vshojo
I would kneel so hard just to see Vshojobeggers seethe.

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>>67163987
She has her connections it's all set in motion patience is key. You will see.

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>>67163921
Millie LOVES being in nijisanji with her friends

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>>67161697
>who the fuck would pay the lawyers?
She could make a gofund me and easily get a $1M if she needed it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163987
Millie really strikes me more as the kind of Filipina that would go down with the ship.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67164116
>1 donor
>Cover Corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163800
Sure, I understand it means a lot to you, but most people still don't have that kind of money to throw around on personal projects.

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>>67164101
Millie also loves donating to charities more than her friends in kurosanji. Which her 2% percent cut prohibits her now to do. You will all see and remember I the great anon.

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>>67158409
She can't announce anything while she's shadow suspended.

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>>67163921
This is my rrat but hear me out. What if Millie was acting like a complete tool and bootlicking nijidrone was because she wanted nijiens reputation to tank when she eventually leaves.

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>>67164529
Millie and Enna are just the typical bitches that every workplace has

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>>67164101
Just like Pomu right? "Pomu is a real nijisanji otaku, she was into it before any of you!!! mito is literally her oshi ffs!!! she'll never ever leave she is exactly where she wants to be!!!"

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>>67164529
>makes herself the ultimate corpo bootlicker
>on her graduation day she goes on a rant about Nijisanji being a black company
I will kneel to the most based vtuber to have ever lived.

[Anonymous No.]

I don't mind Selen but fagoons deserve to suffer.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67159856
When has looking bad ever stopped then before?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
Selen must be made another example of for not kissing Riku's ass.

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>>67163104
She should still be getting her 2%. I don't think they can cut that off as long as she's under contract.

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>>67164716
Based? seems more like a two faced cunt who just grifts IF she did that

[Anonymous No.]

>>67167384
2% from what? She's suspended.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158671
Too many people leaving at once will look worse

[Anonymous No.]

>>67167528
Merchandise, assuming that it's still being sold. I can't be bothered to check if it is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163304
Selen sent in her resignation months ago. I don't know why I have to keep telling people this, it is very obvious when someone is truly done with NijiEN and sent their resignations in if they're
>missing from voice packs for a few months
and
>no merch or collabs in a while

[Anonymous No.]

You guys are gonna look like such fucking retards when she comes back from her "break" as if absolutely nothing happened and she'll stay in nijisanji for 2 more years just streaming apex every single day.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
what's the rush? I'm still savoring the niji tears of Pomu being vanquished. That will last a while, they might as well get their money's worth to maximize the pain to the fans.

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>>67158409
>I'll do it Riku, she's my oshii

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>>67170382
Not to mention she became active again oon her PL twitter since November and had announced she was restocking her old merch even before the MV fiasco (and no, the tweet about the 15k in that gets shared around was her saying her saying she had to open preorders earlier than announced because the lost money).

Add to that all the vagueposting over the half past year, like the whole thing about last Apex season being her last chance to get Predator.

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>>67159424
>hololive is just as bad
Sister...

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>>67170394
you're gonna look like a retard when you get grudgeposted

[Anonymous No.]

>>67159692
>t. seething dragtroon

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
Yes, and soon please.
I await her arrival on Plumper Pass

[Anonymous No.]

>>67174401
>seething Nijinig intern

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>>67162998
>Miss the graduation of her best friend in the company
>Don't even submit a letter to the powerpoint that Shu put together
>be back like nothing happened
Really?

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>>67175414
Finanaa was on vacation when Nina's graduation was happening and even she found the time to record a goodbye and send it to Nina to watch on stream in lieu of a call-in. There is zero percent chance that Selen would completely miss out on Pomu's graduation if she wasn't suspended. And if a suspension caused her to not be able to say a proper goodbye to one of her closest friends then there's no chance she's not leaving the company even though that was probably not the final straw itself

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>>67158409

[Anonymous No.]

the nijisanji "family" can only pretend to be sad over one person leaving at a time.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
>January 26 JST
>January 28 JST
>January 31 JST
If they're going to do it and not keep her in limbo for longer, it's going to be around one of those days.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
have mercy

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>>67163987
Millie could easily go to HoloID, she has tons of connections there. The only reason she isn't there now is because of Enna and Enna is doing well now.

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>>67180600
You don't want to overload people with bad news by having it overlap.

[Anonymous No.]

So what happened to her after the suspensions? what's the qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67198220
she has no more access to her accounts

[Anonymous No.]

>>67198322
When is she getting it back?

[Anonymous No.]

>>67199950
>When is she getting it back?
Anon...

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>>67172615
That Predator comment was the red flag to me for someone who supposedly has plans to stay.

Not able to do projects, the baiting Last Coffee, just feels like she was going.

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[Anonymous No.]

She'll return this week with a renewed love for management.

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>>67203445
How much would it cost to make a non-human roommate replacement for her?

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>>67158409
NOPE

[Anonymous No.]

>>67165131
when it affects investor opinions

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>>67160117
Well unlike Zaion, Selen doesn't really need to "do" anything.
Niji already tried the "list" approach with Zaion and failed, and despite being a relative newcomer with zero connections, Zaion's word alone was able to ruin a bunch of Niji's reputation. Along with the fact that they retardedly revealed stealth suspensions on their own - which already paints them as a bad company to work for.
Selen also has far more connections in places outside of Nijisanji, and friends who will actually defend her if Niji try to smear her.
Selen's fans also know that she's always tried to get perms every single time and cooperated with management - to the point of delaying her projects SEVERAL times just to get them out.
There's also a 2 year history of Nijisanji denying her projects and plans, all downloaded and archived by dragoons "just in case".

If Niji were smart, they would just be trying for as amicable a split as possible at this point.
If they terminate and try to shun her, they're unironically going to be burned in the western fandom, just for claiming the MV she spent $15k on as "their copyright".

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>>67206972
So that was when...?

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>>67207147
>If Niji were smart, they would just be trying for as amicable a split as possible at this point.
Naruhudo, remove her Christmas song without proper explanation and refuse her a role in the biggest graduation collab of the company.

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>>67203445
>Management sacrifice riku 4th yacht to build AI selen.
Lol who am i kidding, they would rather terminate her than touching riku yacht fund.

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>>67210753
Hey, I did say "if"

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>>67172615
>>67200698
I'm not saying she didn't plan to quit back then, but that predator comment had nothing to do with it. You can tell people who didn't even watch that stream are the ones who keep bringing it up. She was talking about how ranking was broken that season and it was extremely easy to get rank without the usual extra grind, which she didn't have time for with her other vtuber activities. So it was her last chance to get predator as long as she was a variety streamer, not her last chance because she was already out the door.

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>>67170394
Strong vestard/magfag vibe from this one.

[Anonymous No.]

PR nightmare

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>>67211894
They can always reduce expenses by decreasing the number of managers.

[Anonymous No.]

ayyyy

[Anonymous No.]

>>67188119
Holo/holofans doesn't want her

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>>67170394
Why the fuck would Selen stay in NijiEN for another 2 years? NijiEN treated her especially badly over the course of 2023, with what happened on Christmas serving as one big "Fuck You" christmas present from her own company. The one group who shouldn't be anti-ing her.
Nevermind the fact that at the current rate, NijiEN will not make it into 2026. Probably not even 2025.

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>>67188119
Hololive/Holofans don't want her

[Anonymous No.]

My guess is that she's either on a 1-month suspension or indefinite suspension, and that she's ultimately done. The timing of this shitshow going down just before the Pomu graduation announcement was the worst case scenario, and to outright terminate her then and there, especially after the "accident", would have made it an even greater PR nightmare. They're likely waiting for the dust to settle a bit before making the final announcement. My guess is end of January to early February.

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>>67217599
>Why the fuck would Selen stay in NijiEN for another 2 years?
Money?

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>>67218694
I'm pretty sure she could do just as well as an indie, or get an offer from vshojo or basically any small corpo. Maybe even holoEN if she felt like waiting 9 months and they were willing to cause some drama by doing it.

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>>67218694
Evidently not that much if she immediately needed another revenue stream on her PL but alright pal

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>>67158409
Riku is dancing with her corpse.

[Anonymous No.]

Was Selen's manager really the same as Zaions? fucked up if true

[Anonymous No.]

Nijisanji is in a pickle.
They cannot release any notice atm, because it would seriously backfire at them.
They know Selen has a huge public support, it would be a brand suicide.

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>>67221264
There's only one case of anyone being stealth suspended this long across the entire company, and that was for singing a Pekora anti song on stream. There's no way she did anything that warrants being disappeared for this long, so it's going to be a shitshow when they do say something whatever it is

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>>67221264
Expect one this monday

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>>67221526
the wife guy with the baby right? why did he feel compelled to poke the nousagis with the proverbial stick? those guys are intense.

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>>67221526
>There's no way she did anything that warrants being disappeared for this long
Motherfucker, she advertised current VShojo talent (Nina and Mysta) in her song. Of course trying to pull this shit will get her suspended. It's like Pepsi advertising Coca Cola, of course someone is going to get in hot water over it.

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>>67221682
In the past he would have got away with it, people like Gundou used to shit-talk hololive constantly. Anycolor just cares more about PR now, plus Cover is big enough to raise a stink if they're unhappy about it.

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>>67221721
Objectively wrong. She advertised ANYCOLOR property. They own those IPs so it would be easily countered in a lawsuit.

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>>67158671
They can't get rid of people so often or they'll look shitty. If the leak is true, Niji already scheduled Millie and Rosemi's graduation, so Selen needs to get queued kek

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>>67221721
No she didn't, she put characters that anycolor still owns in it. It's not like them being in the video would magically convey information that anyone watching it didn't already know.

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>>67222008
>They can't get rid of people so often or they'll look shitty
If that's their concern then I think they're a bit too late

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>>67221963
>>67222010
ANYCOLOR aren't dumb, they're not stupid. Everyone knows who Nina/Mysta are, if they don't then the Youtube recommendations will guide them there. It's obvious what she was trying pull and Nijisanji decided that she ain't slick and she's getting the stick. Dumb dragon shouldn't have tried playing stupid games with a multimillion dollar corporation.

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>>67218694
Evidently, she doesn't care that much about Anycolor's money anymore if she opened up vtuber emote commissions and her old Etsy shop.

>>67221721
Both Nina and Mysta do not own the rights to their Nijisanji designs, Anycolor does. And even then, Ethyria has shown Nina's designs quite a bit even after she graduated, so why is it a problem when Selen does it? It just shows that management is incredibly selective about what rules they enforce, or that they do not look at what content they review before it goes up. And they had a full YEAR to review it.

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>>67222162
Fuck off, Millie

[Anonymous No.]

"Lost access to phone", "Under supervision", "Staying there a few days". As a healthcare worker, this is the most obvious stealth suspension nijiEN has ever cooked. The worse thing is that they are painting her like she's been an entire month inside a psychiatric ward. They are literally slandering her. I hate this, I love Selen and how she grew as a streamer over the years. And now they do this to her. fuck JP corpos.

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>>67221901
It didn't help that it was just a couple of weeks after Cover and Anykuro put out that joint announcement about fighting online harrasment together.

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>>67222383
They announced she was out of the hospital but that was probably just because she tweeted about being back home on her RM the day before lol

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>>67222162
>Everyone knows who Nina/Mysta are
It's not how it works you dumass. It's about what's written down. It's fucking ANYCOLOR property.
>It's obvious what she was trying pull
Okay Millie

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
This pic of Selen makes my dick diamonds every time

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>>67222383
>They are literally slandering her
And it's not working. That's why they are fucked and scared to update on Selen

[Anonymous No.]

>>67222101
They still need to keep appearances for their investors and shareholders who may not even know what's going on on the company besides the quarterly reports.

[Anonymous No.]

Selen should do the Rushia strat of leaving the company, hiring her previous vtuber model artist and start a new IP with her older twitch/yt channel. She's outgrown niji.

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>>67222286
>>67222481
>ANYCOLOR owns the designs
>ANYCOLOR property
Oh? And did Selen have a written permission to use said ANYCOLOR property in this particular song? Remember how Zaion played a music video copyrighted by ANYCOLOR without permission and that was cited as a reason for her termination? As I said - it was obvious what she was doing and she wasn't slick enough to get away with it.

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>>67222582
she's the most popular niji en girl, right? not to mention she's popular with the niji jp folks and foreign fans? i dont think they can get out unscathed. i will be really looking forward to how Millie is gonna justify this on stream. it's gonna be funny.

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>>67159424
>in the same month.
TWO MORE WEEKS SISTER

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>>67222782
You're retarded.

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>>67222771
technically, kson did that BEFORE rushia....but i do agree. i really do feel like graduated chuubas should use the artist from their PL unless they were doggy doo. it helps cohesion and allows people to adjust to the new design more. this is actually what lulu from nijisanji did as well when she went independent.

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>>67222771
>She's outgrown niji.
Since the beginning.

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>>67221901
if they care about PR so much they should probably sell nijisanji to someone else or start treating the talents better. if riku isn't really interested in making a sustainable company and just wants to milk these kids until the well is dry, he'd make more money just selling it off to someone who actually gives a shit about it now so he can make a new stupid thing. god rich people are so fucking shortsighted and stupid.

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>>67158409
No but actually what are they stalling for? Why don't they just let her go?

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>>67222782
They had half a year to review the damn thing, them waiting until 3 hours *after* she already published it and deleting it made them look like absolute retards in the best case and outright evil at worst

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>>67222582
They'll have to eventually. Because from what we've seen so far in the EN scene, its rare that a one month suspension results in a talent happily staying on board, all drama just water under the bridge.
And it will be extremely fascinating to see NijiEN bootlickers try to justify Selen's graduation, let alone possible termination.

>>67222782
Even within the context of a Japanese company, in what scenario would Anycolor not allow their talents to use their own existing property, especially when portrayed in a positive manner? And even then, Selen has been incredibly known for seeking out permission in a lot of scenarios, especially when it comes to game permissions, otherwise they never would have greenlit it in the first place.

[Anonymous No.]

Ill just be sad the flow of fat dragon tits art will be reduced to just elira....

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>>67222983
Only thing I can think of is that Pomu just quit, doubt Selen's putting up with their bullshit anymore

>>67222782
half the shit Zaion did other members got away with scot-free, so that does nothing to help your case

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>>67223062
>>67223065
I am willing to consider that this was intentional and she was set up. Why? To make an example to other talents that you do not advertise - straight up advertise - talent from other agencies. Especially if she had already submitted her resignation and was planning to jump ship to an agency where said advertised talent works.

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>>67223065
oh it will be a nightmarish scene. anticipate

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>>67223156
i found the ass art of selen MUCH more appealing. her ass was drawn with such love and sexiness. i'm sad i won't see any more dragon tail. i hope if she reincarnates, she gets a hot tomboy character with a fat ass again. i need her in my life. post selen ass if you have any anons, there can never be enough for my folder.

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>>67222974
Riku has a corporate raider mindset, that's not news to anyone who was paying attention. There was an interview a few years ago where he literally said that he had no interest in vtubers as a medium, but thought they'd be a trend they could make a lot of money from in the short term if they got in early.

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>>67223481
well he made his bank and the markets oversaturated. sell your assets and leave asshole!

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>>67223260
The thing that's frustrating though is that if Anycolor did not want to promote their competitors or ex-talents, they still could have easily made that rule abundantly clear. Selen's birthday stream is still up and has both Zeta and Mumei from Hololive in at 16:26 singing Onegai Muscle, so that was obviously greenlit a long time ago from both companies. Ethyria changed their Twitter banners recently but they still had Ethyria unity banners well after Nina was in Vshojo.
And even a month or week before Selen put up her "Last Cup of Coffee" cover, their management still could have easily told her in advance "Sorry, but there's a new rule that's been implemented. We can no longer showcase ex-talents after ____ amount of time has passed or if they're in a new company. We're afraid you'll have to blur them out more or make them blobby shadows before we can officially put it on your channel, sorry." If it's not incompetence and it was a set up, then I feel bad and I hope she can land on her feet quickly. She would be genuinely too good for NijiEN like with Pomu.

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>>67223433
sauce for this?

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>>67222449
Actually her RM tweeted a photo of a hospital bracelet on the day of "out of hospital" announcement so all signs point to her actually being in hospital on top of being stealth suspended.

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>>67159424
>>67158409
It will be several months before they announce the termination because they don't want the stock to nose dive from the back to back NijiEN talents leaving the company, especially their top 2 female talents.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67160237
I want them to unleash war, conspicuous, outright naked hatred against Nijisanji. List all their crimes like it was Zaion's termination letter, and then try to terminate Nijisanji as a company.

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>>67164716
I don't think it would be worth it. At some point, you hurt a friend or a coworker acting as the bootlicker, and my heart couldn't endure the pain I would inflict on them, for the momentary victory over a company I hated.

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>>67226738
There's a limit how long they delay, we might not know exact contract expiry dates but based on Lazulight debut dates and the fact that (allegedly) Obsydia was signed on around the same time somewhere between end of Q1 and start of Q2 of the year is likely.
And that's assuming she didn't put in a notice *before* this whole mess, which she might have. If that's the case the graduation date is already set and probably sooner than later.

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>>67207147
Imagine if her Hololive friends went to war with her on Nijisanji, and Hololive broke ties with them over not defending their talents from slander and harassment, because Nijisanji itself is the source of slander and harassment.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67162998
yeah, I'm sure the fact she started talking about how she's gonna have to go back to taking commissions on her alt immediately after her "break" started is just a coincidence

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>>67227366
Leave him alone. He's in the denial stage.

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>>67158409
the absolute best thing about selen graduating is that shit posters can't use her image anymore

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>>67160237
That's why people see Dragoons as cute little dragons but I always saw them as an army of Kain from FF4. They're all ready to Jump.

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>>67158409
I rather see Scarle go than Selene, but it is what it is.

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>>67207147
>and friends who will actually defend her if Niji try to smear her
People show their true face when shit hits the fan so that might not be the case. It's just human nature

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>>67226452
Management very likely had to do the out of hospital tweet because she was going to post about it on her PL.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67227011
Based on Selen's comments last year, they've got until mid/late February before Selen's contract has to be renewed. She'll probably just sit out the rest of it, though, even if she's not suspended.

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>>67231517
Graduation streams are a big moneymaker, I doubt she'll skip on her final payday if she can have it. Even if it's just a final zatsudan.

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>>67231626
You're assuming that Anycolor pays out their graduation streams.

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>>67231917
I think you're getting too much into cartoonish villain territory here.

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>>67231626
Can't have a graduation stream if you get terminated.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67232069
Maybe so, but I do think it's not unreasonable to consider the possibility that Anycolor will announce it as a graduation, then terminate her without a stream.

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>>67222162
BET ?

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>>67232069
They love them actually makes them a shit ton of cash, fans tend to go all out.

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>>67232069
I would argue that livers getting 2% and nothing to pay for their debut while the owner of the company has a yacht is cartoonishly evil yet that’s real

[Anonymous No.]

>>67233203
Or you have a prerecorded graduation like Gundou so you can't talk shit on your way out

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>>67233395
To be as fair as posible, it's 2% of merch sales, which have almost no input from the talent and are cookie-cutter generic merch to begin with.
It's shitty that they only get 2%, considering even a backwoods literal who black company gives a better cut, but still.

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>>67227603
this, pomudachi just were fiercely loyal (sometimes to the point of annoying acting like she shits solid gold) but selenposters have been some of the worst posters on the board.

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>>67234019
It's ridiculous. It doesn't matter how basic the merchandise is, people are buying it only because of the talent. It's also really short sighted, since a bigger cut would means more active promotion from the actual talents.

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>>67234104
>selenposters
But they'll still be here? They'll just post with a VShojo design.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67203445
>There is no bad management in Nijisanji
>I love Nijisanji, they're my family
>How could anybody ever hate such a great company

[Anonymous No.]

>>67236138
>>There is no bad management in Nijisanji
>>I love Nijisanji, they're my family
>>How could anybody ever hate such a great company

fixed

[Anonymous No.]

If Selen gets fired are people going to stop watching Nijisanji once and for all?

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>>67236706
No, but since no Pomu and Selen, viewership will drop a bit.
Dont know about Pomudachis but most Dragoons barely watch other Nijis (Rosemi, Elira and Vivi but they wont get much...).

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>>67236706
No, there will always be boot-lickers. Even WACTOR still has people willing to support the company. Nijisanji's core strategy is throwing everything at the wall to get you watching SOMETHING on their roster. This leads to a heavily compartmentalized fanbase that really doesn't care much about the other livers outside their favorite's immediate circle. This means the question isn't "will people drop Niji for this", it's "will Selen's fans ditching the company be enough to put it in the red", which the answer is probably not. There's still talent that can carry the branch financially.

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>>67236601
Millie doesn't deserve to be shitposted like this.

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>>67237403
That's right nijisister! Selen on the other hand, she desrves it.

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>>67158409
It hurts so much...

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>>67158409
Need an edit of Watchmen's ending with Selen as Rorschach and Riku as Dr. Manhattan.

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>>67237191
The fanbase is one thing, but they were already getting pointed questions from shareholders about EN's poor talent retention and missed targets even before Pomu left. If Selen also goes they can't exactly keep handwaving that.

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>>67222804
>not to mention she's popular with the niji jp folks and foreign fans
no shes not
>>67222582
i doubt they are scared of anything ,this is just her suspension which could be very long.

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>>67158471
>She fucked up so she deserves to go.
Are you for real dude?

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>>67223513
>>67223481
>>67222974
There's no reason for him to sell, if he wanted he already would do it when the stocks were at its highest. I doubt its going to ever happen.
Nijijp still is doing great revenue wise and sustaining the entire company so theres no reason as well

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>>67238310
>this is just her suspension which could be very long
all nijien suspensions last 2 weeks
selen is the first being suspended for this long

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>>67226807
>>67160237
and what would they do? go to twitter and make memes? shit on the company? they will just ignore it just like how they have been doing for years. the only thing achieved here is hurt the members who want to stay making it negative for them but the company itself at worst will just close the branch in 2 or 3 years if revenue levels go low.

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Imagine loosing your top 2 female talents within 2 weeks of each other(I know Selen is technically still there but let's be real, she's gone).

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>>67170382
guess millie is going to graduate because she was missing from voice packs for 1 year before she came back. this vp cope is retarded when its optional and the merch cope is even more retarded when not everyone gets it.

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>>67237403
She deserve worse. Much worse.

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>>67222008
imagine actually believing a fucking random retard here larping a leak and even saying "if the leak is true" on that shit

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>>67238588
There's only one example in the whole company of someone being suspended this long and coming back afterwards and he did something spectacularly retarded, so it's pretty safe to assume she's outta there and they just don't want to stack up the bad news all at once

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>>67238819
She's either incredibly retarded or really disingenuous both good reasons to not like her

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>>67233395
the owner has a yacht and yet there's no proof whatsoever about that, its so funny.

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>>67238819
Good Job Millie!

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>>67238661
Imagine the last two talents that left doing much better in some rival corpo.
Imagine the girl you fired and slandered pulling better numbers than half your EN branch.

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>>67238588
no they don't. suspensions last as much as the company wants them to last. lauren was more than 2 months, gundou too, gwelu was 1 month
>>67238164
Nothing was pointed out about EN talent retention, i dont know where the fuck you saw that. They were talking about all the branches, not EN, and yes, they can and will handwave that like any company do, it would lose revenue regardless anyway in all of those quarters even with them there.
>>67237191
If not even Nijien as a branch would go to red losing members (at best making less money yoy, which they already would do with them), imagine anycolor itself which is sustanined by their main branch that had an excellent year revenue wise. Its hard to see a talent leaving and affecting anycolor, even kuzuha leaving wouldn't do that, even if revenue would dimish a fair bit. honestly too big to die atp

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>>67239248
anycolor couldnt care less about that, they care about jp doing well, en is a side branch to them to make extra money and thats why they also dont care about its reputation.

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>>67238819
>>67238957
i stopped giving shit about her ever since she did that wretched secret GC stream. hope she's happy with her 2% merch cut and no monthly salary.

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>>67239264
>lauren was more than 2 months, gundou too, gwelu was 1 month
Please improve your reading comprehension

[Anonymous No.]

>>67239439
yes you said nijien. Nijien still is part of nijisanji and jp upp management still decides that.

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>>67239264
JP has been slowly bleeding talent for years and ID never made enough money for anyone to care, if they were bringing it up now it was because of EN losing a bunch of members and missing projections at the same time.

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>>67239264
Riku's gonna accelerate his golden yatch real hard.

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>>67239634
idk what you even are responding me
>>67239626
JP isnt bleeding talents for years, it loses a relatively small amount with only 3 leaving last year and the highest being 3 years ago. That was literally the first interview about financials so that question was clearly about the overall graduations, as there was no mention of EN or any branch.

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>>67239874
>it loses a relatively small amount
That's what I meant by slowly bleeding talent anon. And a number of them should really raise some eyebrows - people quitting right after getting record deals, Lulu quitting because they botched handling her antis, and Mayuzumi quitting which probably has much worse implications for the company than people who don't really follow the workings of the JP side realize

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>>67170394
The grudge post is gonna be brutal with this one

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>>67240308
I know what happened in JP, my point is that the number is relatively low and every year more come while revenue continue to grow and, iirc, like 90 or so members from 2018 and 2019 are still in there so they still retain most of their older members

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>>67234019
cookie-cutter merch still doesnt really change much since people are still buying shitty keychains from every other vtuber, including holos and small corpos.
desu, the merch is still not as bad as phase selling coffee with a vtuber paper sleeve as mech

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>>67170394
kek

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>>67163987
They’d take her hat

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>>67170394
She's not gonna comeback until her Apex rank resets as to not raise suspicion from the fans who only follow her official media accounts.

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>>67227711
Based

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>>67234319

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Who cares if Selen graduates or not, NijiEN just needs to accelerate new waves for real talented people to appear.

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>>67238819
My god the ESL.

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>>67240308
>Mayuzumi quitting which probably has much worse implications for the company than people who don't really follow the workings of the JP side realize

I don't really follow Niji JP, what happened and what's the implications?

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>>67246801
i know (hope) this is just a shitpost.
But noone in their right mind will join nijien in the future.
>Before Zaion
6 member groups
>After Zaion
3 member groups
>After the next massive fuck up going public
0-1 member groups

[Anonymous No.]

It's ok, she'll show up in Hololive De_vis Paochgloss with Pomu and Rosemi in a few months.

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>>67222782
>Oh? And did Selen have a written permission to use said ANYCOLOR property in this particular song?

You're the biggest fucking retard in the world, Millie.

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>>67238442
Absolutely. They aren't firing her for no reason, no matter what you might think.

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>>67231626
You'd be amazed what spite will motivate. I can see her skipping out on it to deny kurosanji a single cent of that supa income.

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>>67249933
>no reason
Nijisanji will show you a very long list to change your mind.

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>>67159424
health breaks for talents with actual health problems, yes

the vesper/magni thing was likely because they dragged out contract negotiations and couldn't stream after their previous contract lapsed

[Anonymous No.]

>>67248373
Stop, I can only get so erect.

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>>67222974
The idea isn’t to sell it at the peak, but to turn it into a corporate content farm. XXX livers streaming YYY hours a month bringing $Z/hr every month. Talent freedom and ambition goes against that model, fans may like doing races with UberEats and calling for the death of ball players, but it’s advertiser unfriendly. Thus the huge corporate, bureaucratic turn even in JP.

It’s grim but the writing was on the wall as soon as they went public.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67256212
>It’s grim but the writing was on the wall as soon as they went public.
Capitalism is the root of all evil

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>>67256429
'Whom do I hate most among the rabble of today? The socialist rabble, the chandala apostles, who undermine the instinct, the pleasure, the worker's sense of satisfaction with his small existence–who make him envious, who teach him revenge. The source of wrong is never unequal rights but the claim of “equal” rights'.
- Der Antichrist

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>>67249933
Already memoryholed the Zaion incident I see. Typical bootlicker.

[Anonymous No.]

pomukeks and fatsokeks are begone, good riddance

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>>67256429
>>67256732
To be fair incoherent meme references to "capitalism" are something Selen also indulged in

[Anonymous No.]

>>67262030
You are the only kek here, moron.

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>>67170394
>>67240342
locked and loaded

[Anonymous No.]

>>67262662
That would be a nice way of protesting, but only if she's a masochist and likes to be bullied by management and coworkers.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67160145
This Roa? Holy shit she is fighting that legal battle for 2 years.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67263239
Legal battles can go on for many, many years.
They usually on the quicker side when one side realises they can't afford to keep up the battle.

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>>67221901
Niji's whole brand was based on controversy, drama and trolling in the early days.
Sasaki graduated and then un-graduated over Nintendo perms and got a ton of shit over it, but she put out a literal diss track cover to her haters and got praised for it (https://youtu.be/HZleluBJrjA).).
Mito used to be a literal /here/ chuuba for 5chan - imagine if someone like Pippa or Beatani went mainstream with 20k+ viewers - that was Mito in Japan (and now you can start understanding why nijisanji fans are the way they are).
In fact, this type of trolling, banter and jokey atmosphere was the entire brand of Nijisanji back in 2018 and 2019. And although adults didn't like it that much due to the drama potential (and not really conforming to Japanese culture), it got SUPER popular among the few Japanese youths that were around precisely because of those two points.

But somewhere along the line, things changed.
Ichikara converted into Anycolor.
The guy responsible for early Nijisanji either quit or was forced out of the company (depending on who you beleb).
Nijisanji started delving into idol territory with their collab groups.
Newer livers started getting the usual bantz thrown at them, but instead of responding with "fuck off" content, they started apologizing instead.
e.g. Lauren profusely apologizing for using the word "Fabyutteru" (because it has some anti-Korean 5ch roots) meanwhile Mito used it all the time in her 2019 streams (not anymore though).
Imagine what anons here would do if a successful /here/chuuba company for 2 years suddenly started pivoting to mainstream and apologizing for using /here/ lingo.

Desperate fans escalated the bantz into harassment territory, and yet the response remained either just ignoring it or apologizing for it.
Somewhere along the way, the history, legacy and the reasoning for bantz (to get counter-bantz content from the livers and a jokey atmosphere) was lost.
Niji fanbase started harassing other chuubas and companies, and that was when things stopped being funny.
Now, the livers couldn't afford to be seen pandering to "that" part of the audience anymore. The audience that they themselves cultivated back in 2018-19 was thrown out.
Livers started getting suspended for bantz, because they couldn't afford to be seen as pandering to a "hater" audience (which is what their early audience has turned into).
Gundou gets fired over baseball tweets to protect their baseball sponsorships.
Entire company pivots into being "normalfag friendly".

And now their most prolific livers are quitting one by one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67229563
A lot of her friends are e-celebs, so it could be possible.
But I know at least rpr would be backing her up, along with that "night"-something guy she often "collabs" with.

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>>67247464
anon just so you know, nijisanji always alternate shit. JP debuted 5 with edengumi, 3 with ranunculus, 4 with voltaction, 7 with idios, 4, 4 and then 3.

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>>67158409
Sad times for pomudachis and dragoons. I think Selen is very entertaining but never watched her that much. That music birthday video made me smile like an idiot for 30 minutes straight. Stay strong dragoons.

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>>67264213
ah yes their most prolific livers are quitting one by one, meanwhile most of their most popular vtubers are still there by far. Only Lulu, Mayuzumi and gibara were big ones.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67167442
Dead corpse black company.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67160117
Selen is too busy riding my dick to read your shit post.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67163304
>Nina in it
Whaaaaat? Why? When did they ever interacted? Even if gone, the Ethirya curse keeps on dooming the Rest of NijiEN.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67264213
>Imagine what anons here would do if a successful /here/chuuba company for 2 years suddenly started pivoting to mainstream and apologizing for using /here/ lingo.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67264659
>prolific livers
He meant the liver who actively organize event. Mayuzumi, miyamoto, touya(quit being an organizer)

[Anonymous No.]

>>67158409
>22 days since last tweet

[Anonymous No.]

>>67263239
They already lost that one. They allegedly started a new civil case now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>67247307
He organised (and paid for) a lot of events, but quit in the middle of last year because he couldn't reach an agreement with management over the direction of his channel. A few of the other big event organisers have also said they won't run any more. Management took over the biggest events but they haven't been as good.

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>>67267545
Didn't Roa bully someone into quitting, how did Niji fuck that one up?