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6704357 No.6704357 [Reply] [Original]

Screw NijiEN vs HoloEN, can NijiEN to be renamed NijiCN even survive Prism's incline?

>> No.6704437

redpill me on the qrd on prism

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>>6704357
You were referring to the Shiki's/Luto's incline, right OP?
They're the only ones who are growing quite well in the agency, while others are struggling for new viewers and subscribers
Also,
>NijiEN to be renamed NijiCN
Why are you laughing that 'NijiEN is going to be renamed NijiCN' while ignoring the fact that Luto officially endorses a bilibili channel? She even created some unique content for that channel, so that part of the sentence seems ironic

>> No.6705332

>>6704357
>spoiler
We all know that you actually have nothing negative to say about them if you resort to this.

>> No.6705359

>>6704437
>redpill me
Just look at the prism thread OP, gives a decent overview >>6660451

>> No.6705490

>>6704357
As an outsider, I think prism might have the best shot out of all the start ups to incline hard. I don't know why but they kinda give off early gen 1 hololive vibes.

>> No.6706333

>>6704357
Are you getting paid well, intern-kun? I saw you shilling in the NijiEN debut threads, too.
You're doing better than the Tsunderia intern, who can only keep shitting on the rrat...

>> No.6706671

>>6704437
Basically like a cross between Hololive and VShojo. Most of them are pretty vanilla, but Luto is utterly unhinged.

>> No.6706811

>>6705332
Ok, you want some:
Finana is literally worthless as a talent, not only is she a confirmed Hololive reject because her dumb ass thought it was a good idea to advertise on Twitter she was gonna try to join NijiEN after failing the HoloEN auditions, she can't sing to save her life, sucks at games, thinks that she needs a fightstick for fighting games not understanding that most players that use one is because they've grown with those controls so they are confortable with that, literally all she has going on for her is the egg story
Anycolor hired Pomu, Elira and Rosemi only because they were already friends and really didn't consider how good they were individually, not to mention rat king proved she has no loyalty and Pomu is dying, so good luck with that in the future, nothing that bad to say about Elira on her own
Selen is using NijiEN as a stepping stone, she's a confirmed HoloFanatic and wants to be one, she won't be like Matsuri who can be a fanatic of Niji while being a Holo, no, the second auditions open for HoloEN, you'll notice less streams
Finally Petra is literally the single worst debut in the entire week, not only is she the worst Penguin vtuber of the last 3 months (notably below Pengu Chii and Prism's Pina) she's somehow below even Finana and only taken because you don't actually need to be a proven talent before joining Nijisanji, somehow, for some reason, Anycolor still thinks hiring complete newcomers is a good idea despite only paying up like 2 times in 3 years

Prism is generally much better, not only the average talent is better, they can maintain kayfabe a lot better than any of the NijiEN members who can't even lie even about the basics (sure Elira, you totally sold me on you barely knowing Twitch), they don't have worthless talents, backstabbers waiting for their opportunity or dying ones

With just 6 talents, NijiEN is full of some of the worst picks Anycolor ever picked and actually looking to be quite comparable to HoloCN, down to only having only 1 salvageable talent

>> No.6707002

>>6704357
literally who?

>> No.6707317

>>6706811
tl;dr

>> No.6707512 [DELETED] 

>>6705490
Yeah. They are pretty much on the same scale as holo too before their massive incline last year. And the vibe match. I can see them be the holo of west if they hit their own "Christmass Miracle" someday.

>> No.6707634

>>6707317
Only 1 salvageable member in NijiEN, literally everyone in Prism proven to be above average, once you combine that with a noticeable incline of a couple of the Prism talents will result in NijiEN dropping a position sooner rather than later

>> No.6707680

>>6706811
>hiring complete newcomers is a good idea
To be completely fair, gen1 of Prism are all completely new to streaming

>> No.6707751

>>6707680
New to streaming, not to content creation, some Nijisanji members are absolute newcomers to everything

>> No.6707879 [DELETED] 

>>6707680
It's understandable since they are new small time agency. Anycara have no excuse as they are the biggest chuuna corpo in the world. But hey it's anycara. They never cared about anything other than improving their brand value and image

>> No.6707951

>>6706811
>Prism is generally much better, not only the average talent is better
kek
If this were true, many more people who subscribed to PRISM members would return to their streams. The 1st and 2nd generation PRISM VTubers are not able to reach 1% of live viewers from their total number of subscribers, which is generally the standard for a healthy YouTube streaming channel. NijiEN VTubers, on the other hand, meet these criteria

>> No.6707996

Heard that PRISM is less of holo and more align with Niji in future plans, once they stonks enough they'll consider male entries for debuts, what's your take on this?

>> No.6708089

>>6707996
Throwing my application as soon as I can, can't let them getting too ambitious with talents that it becomes impossible to join

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>>6706811
>>6704357

>> No.6708378

>>6707951
>corp cuck
i see

>> No.6708396

>>6708210
Pre-emptive F, at least she'll die before it gets really bad

>> No.6708397

>>6707996
They're operating deep in the red right now >>6672381, doubt they'll be introducing another gen anytime soon

>> No.6708441

>>6706811
You're right about Finana.
I doubt Anycolor hired Rosemi based on her relationships, especially since they would have also considered the bad relationship she had with Tsunderia.
Pomu isn't dying.
Selen wouldn't have debuted as a Niji if she wanted to be in Hololive. She would have broken her Niji contract for HoloEN2 if she wanted to be.
Petra isn't a newcomer.

>> No.6708467

>>6708210
Pomudachis are the most retarded fanbase

>> No.6708544

>>6708441
>Selen wouldn't have debuted as a Niji if she wanted to be in Hololive
She knows she currently lacks the recognition to join Holo, joining NijiEN is the safest way to do it, that's gonna be more important in the future
>Petra isn't a newcomer.
Then that's an absolute embarrassment of a debut

>> No.6708622

>>6708378
I am not a corp cuck, I am just pointing out the truth
Iku, who has 31k subscribers, currently does a collab with Meno on her channel. How many people are currently watching them? 65.
Not a great look if you ask me

>> No.6708876

>>6708622
Iku's sub count is sadly inflated due to many of her subs coming for only her Indo content. Whenever she does bahasa or plays dreadout (indog game apparently) she averages 400-500 viewers.

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>>6707751
>absolute newcomers to everything
>Finana was the only one that didn't do this before

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>>6708467
I don't see how not wanting to read someone's essay makes me cancer but go off

>> No.6708940

>>6704357
>>6706811
I hope you realize how dumb you look trying to start pointless conflict between some tiny startup and the 2nd biggest vtuber agency in the world, just because the startup may or may not catch up eventually. You're only making Prism look bad here, but you're probably a falseflagging prism anti and already knew that.

>> No.6708976

>>6706811
they hated him because he spoke the truth

>> No.6709012

>>6704981
>Luto officially endorses a bilibili channel
Kek is this real?

>> No.6709190

>>6706671
>Luto is utterly unhinged
She really is and I love it. I can't watch her all the time because watching Luto is like watching vtubers while high on meth, crack, and LSD all at the same time. The times I do watch her though are absolutely amazing.

>> No.6709233

>>6708876
She's hiding the fact that she doesn't have any interesting skills that would make the stream more interesting, by stooping down to the level of Indogs

>>6709012
Yes: https://space.bilibili.com/1523207400

>> No.6709316

>>6704981
Why did Shiki incline so fast?

>> No.6709446

>>6709316
Prism shills (or false-flagging antis) out in full force today, here's another thread where someone explained Shiki's incline >>6707463

>> No.6709449

>>6709316
she is way more "high spec" than the usual start-up chuuba. And is getting a lot of clips. Could become pretty big if she doesnt start to ghosting streams time and time again as she often did.

>> No.6709486

>>6709316
In a nutshell, because she was clipped by many big clippers early on and got lucky with the YT algorithm with some of her short videos

>> No.6709524

Since this is the PRISM thread is Meno having the worst mic ever made her gimmick? Why doesn't somebody get her a better mic?

>> No.6709660

>>6709446
Man I thought Prismers were better than this. What happened?

>> No.6709895

>>6709660
The only good debut in NijiEN2 is from someone that'll backstab them sooner than they expect, so it's a good opportunity to show people where else can they go

>> No.6709938

>>6709524
They did, audio still sucks. They were saying it was an internet issue for a while (not that it really made sense) and that was recently fixed to no avail, so they might at least check other potential causes now, it's probably an interface or software issue.

>>6709660
>What happened?
The fanbase grew several times larger in the last month.
That said I haven't seen the supposed shilling myself, but I tend to avoid the kinds of threads that attract that shit anyway.

>> No.6710137

>Holoeech Project

>> No.6710192

>>6706671
taht's why I love Luto.

>> No.6710209

>>6709660
The Prism anti realized that it was more effective to start fights and make everyone else hate them too.

>> No.6715897

>>6709316
Perfect storm of traits to go viral

>> No.6716052

>>6708544
I don’t know dude, isn’t she chinese? I doubt hololive would ever pick her. She doesn’t even know Japanese.

>> No.6718284

>>6706811
>Rat king
O shit, what did he say? I musve been blind

>> No.6724393

Looking at the catalog seems like NijiEN's gonna implode soon, time for PRISM to steal the thunder

>> No.6724517

>>6704981
holy shit I thought OP was full of shit but they are actually pretty close to nijiEN, and shiki is even the newest one if im not mistaken

>> No.6724889

>>6706811
Is there anything more pathetic than managers of start-up companies trying to gain traction but shitposting about other companies on 4chan?

>> No.6725360

>>6724889
Prismanager vs NijiEnma, you love to see it

>> No.6731993

Everyone needs to be patient. They're slowly getting up there and so far, the Captain has said that they are operating in the deep red. Shiki was very lucky to have the YouTube algorithm behind her. Luto should of had the same opportunity, her clips and shorts are really good. Maybe that's the reason why the Captain decided to run a Prism Project clips contest and hashtag section for them.

>> No.6732320

>>6724889
I doubt it's management doing it considering they've worked closely with Tsunderia and now Kawaii. Wouldn't make much sense to work with them but then trash a company that is light years ahead in terms of brand recognition, and to be honest, they aren't any better than Tsunderia in terms of original content. Shiki just got blessed by the algorithm. Miori's new outfit reveal mogged all the other debuts this weekend and if Prism is smart, they will latch onto Tsunderia's stability, especially after the captain's deep red Tweet

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