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>So far, the big agencies now tend to accept mostly bilingual/trilingual applicants lately.
>those who can only speak one language despite their previous experience are handicapped atm.

>> No.6702242

>>6701908
From what I see, Holos still have the lowest barrier of entry. IRyS was probably both English and Elevenese because of her role, but I'm pretty sure EN2 will have people like Gura who only really knows one language.

>> No.6702264

>>6701908
It's necessary for collabs.

Just look at how much holoEN/holoJP collabs get carried by Kiara.

>> No.6702331

>>6701908
As it should be. Monolingual are crap, they are not entertaining to watch if you don't speak the same language.

>> No.6702434

>>6701908
If Cover hasn't learned from Ame/Gura that being monolingual is a huge barrier then they deserve to lose.
Pomu's Japanese is pretty mediocre but she's at least good enough to do group collabs and not need a translator. That HoloEN/JP/ID Among Us stream was fucking embarrassing.
I hope for the talents' sake that they pick bilingual EN/JP talents for HoloEN2 that can actually collab with their senpais.

>> No.6702744

>>6701908
It's 2021, pretty much everyone are at least bilingual except for mutts who are too lazy/arrogant to just learn 1 other language.

>> No.6702759

>>6702434
>Ame/Gura huge barrier.
>The most successful vtuber and the most creative vtuber are a hindrance to Cover.

Good thing you don't work for Cover. You'd probably be sued for discrimination.

>> No.6702797

>>6701908
There's no place for monolinguals in a global workplace.

>>6702434
Ame and Gura's other strengths gave them the edge over other applicants that were probably multilingual. Just look at Ame's innovative and creative ways of streaming and how Gura meme'd her way to 3m subs.

>> No.6702856

>>6702434
>huge barrier
>most subscribed vtuber of all time

>> No.6702880

>EN branch
>talents won’t stop referencing Japanese media, singing Japanese songs, saying phrases in Japanese, etc.
Defend this

>> No.6702903

>>6702797
Indeed I feel like Gura's resume and raw talent made her weak language skills irrelevant. Ame was a bit of a gamble but paid off for the most part. She's also at least trying her best to collab with JP's even if her Japanese never improves.
So I guess if you can pick up someone with that much raw talent it might serve as an exception, but for average vtubers knowing Japanese is really important.

>> No.6702911

>>6702242
Wasn't Holo raising the bar these days? Guess we'll find out with EN2.

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>>6702880

>> No.6703039

>trusting your company to hapas
Idk about this move

>> No.6703273

>>6702264
to be honest... everything gets carried by Kiara.
just look at the Anime Expo

>> No.6703477

Monolingual is not a blessing but a curse.
Look at ID

>> No.6703545

>>6702759
>>6702856
Not collabing is a liability. It has been this way in the entertainment business for 100s of years.
Cover makes more money on 1m people watching 5 different vtubers than 4m people watching 1 vtuber.

>> No.6703581

>>6702911
>Literal Professional Artist with a good portfolio
>Idol Experience on top of fluent multilingual
>Artist with experience and connections in near all facets of music production
>HER

I don't see how they can raise the bar any more. They lucked out that Ina was a massive Hololive mark, I doubt they could get somebody like that regularly even now.

>> No.6703585

Filters out the creeps, I'm fine with this

>> No.6703604

fucking called it. there are plenty of talented bilingual people applying, monolinguals btfo. get fucked majority of white burgers.

>> No.6703614

>>6702744
This. As a European I know English and German and I still think I fucking suck. In fact, seeing how these girls speak three languages really means I need to get my shit together.

But yeah, only Americans were in this unique position where they didn't need to know anything but English. This is rapidly changing, but who knows if the mutt brain is capable of learning anything new.

>> No.6703757

>>6703614
>This is rapidly changing
No it isn't.

>> No.6703852

>>6703604
Imagine the meltdown when one of EN2 is a nigger.

>> No.6703926

>>6702880
They applied to become anime girls. It takes a special kind of person, known in some places as "weeaboo".

>> No.6704817

>>6703273
That had little to do with her language skills, that's just being outspoken among a group of socially anxious autists. I feel all ENs would have been chosen regardless of language, they all bring something to the table which is what made their gen as successful as it was.

>> No.6705004

>>6702744
>>6703614
Knowing 2 European languages is 1.5 lingual at best. Hilarious seeing Europeans attempting to sit on a high horse for such a small feat.

t. fluent in English, Chinese, and Japanese

>> No.6705038 [DELETED] 

>>6703852
Where is the down vote button?

Somebody report this racist chug to the moderators you are not welcome 4chan is a inclusive and welcoming community for all POC and your racism well not be toleratated.

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6705150

>>6703852
Well, there's already a wigger.

>> No.6705175

>>6703614
>This is rapidly changing
English is the world language, the lingua franca.

Even if other countries start to overtake the US and the US falls into irrelevance, English has established itself in foreign school systems and curriculums the world over, and if anyone wants to communicate across a language barrier with anyone else, odds are it will be in English.

>> No.6705181

>>6705038
Logic?

>> No.6705218
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6705218

Hana and Pikamee were pioneers. Now every company wants to copy their success.

>> No.6705275

>>6705175
lingua franca deez nutz down your throat, cope more, you're not getting in as a monolingual burger

>> No.6705278

>>6701908
Nah, it's just Nijizhangxie catering to their masters.

>> No.6705391

>>6705218
Hoshikawa doesn't lean on her English at all unless it's a collab with non-JP speakers.

>> No.6705604

>>6703545
Actually people tend to not donate as much during a collab stream, presumably because they know it wont get read. Also it doesnt really matter if they struggle with streams that make up like 5% of their content. They can still do it and have a decent enough time.

>> No.6705642

>>6701908
>roasties seething
good

>> No.6705659

>>6703614
There's nothing to be proud of being able to speak [native] + English. The only reason you're bilingual here is because you've been forced to be by decades of American hegemony.

>> No.6705674

>>6703581
> I doubt they could get somebody like that regularly even now.
So what should they do? Cancel the audition?

>> No.6705675

>2021
>Still monolingual
The absolute fucking state of EOP

>> No.6705707

>>6701908
Selen doesn't speak Japanese though so her other languages might just be a coincidence.

It's safe to say that Nijisanji is putting a premium on being able to speak Japanese though. I don't think Finana or Petra get their offers on a field where that's merely a nice bonus. And I could see Hololive following suit.

>> No.6705722

>>6705218
>Hana
She spoke and speaks English exclusively the vast majority of the time. Can't compare with live-translate Pikamee.

>> No.6705762

>>6705004
>Knowing 2 European languages is 1.5 lingual at best.
>t. fluent in English, Chinese, and Japanese
That's literally no different. Knowing written language for Chinese/Japanese is a huge boon for learning the other.

>> No.6705785

>>6703757
Ah yes, the usual. It's over. You just haven't gotten used to how much it's over.

>>6705004
Okay. However I have a counterpoint - as a Slav I can communicate with other Slavs. As in, all of them, if we pay attention and try.

>>6705175
For now. You really, really do not understand how quickly these things change. I've seen Italian vanish within my lifetime as a commonly known language for instance. And Russian. Language follows power. And America has lost it.

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6705789

>>6701908
You guys get that these femoids just like 500 languages but they wouldn't even be able to order a sandwich in most of them?

>> No.6705817

>>6705789
What a pathetic EOP projection.

>> No.6705836

>>6705707
Finana barely even speaks Japanese, though. She can generally get the gist of what's being said, but that's it. She's too embarrassed to even speak it around JP's, because it's so limited.

>> No.6705842

>>6701908
There's still Cyberlive and VirPro

>> No.6705877

>>6705817
I bet you couldn't tell that Coco spoke broken ass japanese faggot.

>> No.6705880

>>6705785
No language has had the level of adoption that English has had. Closest in history is Latin.

Local regions may have had their own common language in the past, but we live in a world economy now.

>> No.6705901

>>6701908
>2021
>only speaking one language
ishygddt

>> No.6705933

>>6705789
yeah I remember when Ina claimed to speak japanese
or all of ENs for that matter aside from Kiara who is half decent but not fluent

>> No.6705948

>Nijisanji clearly prefers to have multilingual talents
>burgers on life support flooding the thread with "but muh global adopted language"
sperg that on your nijisanji application and see how far you get in the auditions process

>> No.6706051

>>6701908
EOPs on suicide watch

>> No.6706055

I speak English and Hebrew, do you think I have a shot in the NijiEN male auditions?

>> No.6706107

>>6705004
What do you do with your languages though? I do engineering analyst contracts all over the world and euro languages are great for business. I'd never work in China no matter how much they paid me.
t. fluent English French Russian Ukrainian German, N4 Japanese shitter

>> No.6706244

>>6705604
Collabs bring people into the Hololive community which leads to falling into the rabbit hole. Gura subs watch only Gura, this isnt Cover's long term goal

>> No.6706280

>>6705877
>>6705933
JSL larpers are the worst

>> No.6706423

>>6706280
coco wasnt a larper but her jap had a really bad accent
the ENs are all mega larpers though except kiara maybe but she is still really bad at jp especially for someone who has lived there for a long time

>> No.6706650

>>6706423
I was referring to the niggers I quoted, not coco

>> No.6706694

imagine in 2021 but still a fucking monolingual lmao, did you guys even received a proper education?

>> No.6706699

>>6702880
Anime was always a Jap culture indoctrination weapon

>> No.6706809

>>6706650
do reps, jelly faggot

>> No.6706938

>>6706809
>t. N5

>> No.6707000

>>6706938
馬鹿野郎この野郎
どけ糞EOP

>> No.6707076

>>6706938
あからさまに嫉妬んだなーーー

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6707390

>>6702242
>From what I see, Holos still have the lowest barrier of entry

well the roomates were certainly distinguished~

1) indi-vtuber, with more subs on her channel in early march 2020 (when she applied) then any hololive girl, might have beat all of them to 1mil had she not ditched old channel to join hololive; then beat all of them starting from scratch to 1mil
2) nearly pro-level apex twitch streamer
3) pro-level artist
4) musician/rapper with an actual following in japan, toured with a group, rapper with a legit following (all be it partly underground, however definitely big enough her roommate was id within minutes of debut)
5) multi-lingual model -wannabe-idol pekora superfan

The least accomplished roomates on this list was the wannabe idol or the apex streamer, and both were more accomplished then anyone else's roomates except for maybe mint in the nijiEN squad. (both gens)

>> No.6707429

>>6701908
>look, multilingual people!
>this clearly proves that people who only speak one language are skipped!
medicate.

>> No.6707454

>>6707429
cope harder, monolingual

>> No.6707561

>>6701908
seems weird. eop burgers worked for hololive.

>> No.6707624
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6707624

>>6701908
>he thinks IRyS actually speaks japanese
anonchama retardchama...

>> No.6707716

>>6707429
They've hired 7 people and the 2 that don't speak Japanese speak more than three languages. if that's not a precedent what is?

>> No.6707792

i can fluently sing japanese songs if you give me a week with the romanji lyrics and a few music videos.

>> No.6707808

>>6705722
I still love her.. why doesn't she stream..

>> No.6707819

DYRBI that any of these girls who are English natives actually speak Japanese...

>> No.6707868

>>6702434
>3 Million Subs
>Barrier

>> No.6707889

Monolinguals are animals.
Barely humans.

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6707985

>>6707390
>nearly pro-level apex

>> No.6708032

>>6707985
not "pro" officially, but hit Top 500 predator twice in ranked pubs, which is better than pretty much every other chuuba

>> No.6708034

>>6701908
>age -
?

>> No.6708183

>>6708032
Anon she's streaming right now and she's certainly worse than towa who's a diamond

>> No.6708266

>>6708032
Are you talking about Selen or Ame? Ame's highest rank was diamond 3. Botan is the only person to have reached Pred in Hololive

>> No.6708402

>>6702331
>t. ESL

>> No.6708552

>>6701908
>EOP is an american thing.
I don't know a single adult person around me that is at least bilingual.

>> No.6708647

>>6707390
>all be it
Disregarded and discarded.

>> No.6708715

>>6701908
Hope really had to be given birth one day before women's day.

>> No.6708743

>>6701908
how well would an EN/ES company-hire do?

>> No.6708746

>>6701908
Finana is basically EOP though and she was hired at the same time as Obsydia.

>> No.6709413

eop neckening when tho

>> No.6710126

Interesting that Gura and Ame helped make vtubers blow out in the west, making the job market so competitive, they wouldn't be able to get in if they tried to enter now.

>> No.6710985

>>6706244
I guess your mentality is that the EN branch only exist to grow JP when EN should be it's own thing. Being multilingual and can collab with JP does not lead to EOPs watching JPs no matter how much you think like this. People who don't speak JP and don't pretend to be JSL aren't going to start watching JP just because one of the EN they watch is multilingual and can collab with a JP

>> No.6713350

>>6705004
Fuck off Petra, you failed to be the Gura killer. Kill yourself.

>> No.6713484

>>6710126
Gura would based on the popularity of HER. Nobody would say no to that. Amelia absolutely would not though and Ame is fucking fantastic. Just goes to show that even with long drawn out audition processes it is still largely a crapshoot.

>> No.6719879

>>6706055
Yes please. I want a Mossad or Shinbet Chuuba who laugh at Pelestine and Leftoid.

>> No.6720093

>>6707624
Haven't you seen her old streams?

>> No.6720766
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6720766

It's honestly very upsetting, as a Mongolian all I want to do is become a vtuber but it seems it won't happen.

>> No.6723617

>>6705604
Plenty Vtubers don't read supas.

>> No.6723708

>>6701908
Burgers BTFO

>> No.6724231

>>6708183
Honestly I dont know what happened.
It seem like she become weaker and weaker every month ust compare some of her first apex stream to now

>> No.6724345

>>6702744
>>6703614

Americans aren't the only one. A majority of Japanese people are monolingual. Also a lot of Koreans are monolingual.

>> No.6724555

>>6701908
Less burger chuubas sounds good to me

>> No.6724927

>>6701908
Europoors getting uppity not realizing how badly MURRICA cucked them into having to learn english while burgers have the privilege of speaking the founding father's pure english by default. Also everyone is failing to realize that the preferred bilingual language that's getting people picked up is jap, which hardly any white people speak in general. The chaos dragon got in because she's actually an interesting streamer.

>> No.6725044

>>6703581
There is a lot of overlap between people who draw anime girls professionally and vtuber marks. So maybe not that unlikely.

>> No.6725076

Based, monolingual brainlets need to start doing their reps.

>> No.6725160

>>6725044
I could forget everything I know about English and I'd still be trilingual

>> No.6725173

I feel like Gura and Ame being so unabashedly American is part of their appeal to both English speaking and JP audiences. They are definitely something different than the usual. Also Mori being bilingual is…. eh…. and look how the language barrier works in her favor. She’s considered a cool badass with gap moe with girls falling all over her instead of a giant dork autist.

>> No.6725187

>>6725160
Meant to quote >>6724927

>> No.6726551

>>6708402
>t. Every other country citizen besides a minority of lazy US and British

>> No.6726878

>>6725173
True

>> No.6727179

>>6701908
Well the big agencies are in a position where they have much more choice, and it's going to be much harder to get in as a result.

Is it surprising they want a larger addressable market?

>> No.6727312

There only so many talented streamers and people that want to be streamers that can speak both Japanese and English. Eventually, and we've maybe already hit this point, you're just recruiting mediocre talent because they check off one particular box you want. You have the entire rest of the world to recruit from. If the Japanese companies get lazy and conservative someone else is eventually gonna come along and eat their lunch.

>> No.6727992

>>6720766
Don't let your dreams be dreams

>> No.6733576

>>6701908
Who are you quoting?

>> No.6733665

>>6703545
>he thinks cover relies that much on superchat
it's like you're flaunting how 16 years old you are

>> No.6733838

>>6701908
People are crying about the Chinese but I doubt they'll say a lick of it.

>> No.6733901

>>6701908
it's a sign of intelligence. only sub-100 IQ subhumans are monolingual

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6734030

>>6727992
>>6720766
Mongolian throat singing karaoke when?

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