/vt/ - Virtual Youtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>mogs every other singer in EN vtubing
>barely any views
How is this fair?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Shouldn't have settled for Idol

[Anonymous No.]

Reverb babby. Not good enough for Hololive.
Already bombed in 2 small corpos

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927163
Japanese autism wouldn't allow her to cover these songs.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
no blue dorito, no fame
simple as

[Anonymous No.]

corpo vtuber fans are a bunch of tribalistic faggots, corpos should be abolished.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Buy an ad

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927253
Then don't complain about her numbers.

[Anonymous No.]

Her singing is great, I subbed to her after a karaoke stream. But her regular streams were pretty boring, just not for me I guess.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Nobody cares about both vtubers and shitty western music

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927273
2viewseethe.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>weinstein corp

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Sorry but whenever i see a Idol girl all i can see is a manager fucker who doesn't deserve views

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
I will watch her when she gets the blue dorito AND I will pretend that she isnt a manager fucker

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Idol advertisement fund got diverted to missle defense system

[Anonymous No.]

Didnt she fuck her manager too?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
I still think she is too good for Idol, but I hope she's happy. Roca is great.

[Anonymous No.]

Singing ability is not the most important thing for a vtuber. That's what real music is for.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66928144
>>66927365
QRD?
Wasn't that some pill addicted girl?

[Anonymous No.]

She is a bad streamer. Her singing is good, but that is only like 25% of the puzzle she is lacking a lot in the 75%.

[Anonymous No.]

I refuse to watch Idol.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
oh hey its just like real life, who'd have thunk

[Anonymous No.]

>>66928280
yes riro ron did a stream where she popped pills for money, attempted to arrange irl meetups with paypigs and was caught in an "illicit relationship" with idol's head of talent management.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66929034
>idol's head of talent management.
Thats actually a bigger deal than her manager LMAO.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
She's a filthy zaionist

[Anonymous No.]

>>66929639
Qrd?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
At least post the link.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>amazing singer
>average streamer at best

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Singing skills have no correlation to views
Nina Saotome is another really skilled Vsinger that uploads her karaoke songs to youtube where they get an absolute pittance of views
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9tb2curFFg

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>>66928280
Everyone that were close to that pill addicted girl and spoke highly of that manager are on essentially a strike. They either stopped streaming or barely stream now AND restarted RMs while others like Roca keep on streaming business as usual
Imho it is not hard to infer that the head manager was very "close" to several other talents as well

[Anonymous No.]

>>66930536
She's really good at zatsus and variety streams like handcams as well. Her donothon was 3 days of great entertainment
Roca's only real weakness as a streamer is her retro game addiction because a lot of those aren't fun to watch

>>66929907
She works for idol corp which is based in Isreal, they started as all hebrew streamers before branching into the english market with idolEN

[Anonymous No.]

>>66930800
>Singing skills have no correlation to views
Being skilled in entertainment has no correlation to success in general. The music industry is built on top on an endless sea of corpses with professional grade skills.
If you want to make a living of music you either learn drums or bass, then you have the highest chance of getting into several (regionally) successful bands and you can earn more than a burgerflipper (probably)

[Anonymous No.]

Despite what some say her streams are actually a lot of fun, and for a small corpo Vtuber she is pretty well. Shes music focused, so of course her music streams do much better than her regular streams. Just dont expect blue dorito numbers for obvious reasons.

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>>66930800
nina got the insane loli debuff
should have never went that way

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>Joins idol
>Starts doing BJ asmr and shit
Muh singer tho huh?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66931365
She hasn’t done a single ASMR stream why lie?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66931130
So she's a Nerissa but actually likes to stream.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927253
Good luck with DMCA sent by the music label.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66931597
Lol no myers is a mid at best. You need to listen to actual singers dorito boy

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927329
Nice job gaslighting everyone who was excited for IRyS and disappointed when she was forced into the same repertoire as all the existing talents. Take your (You) and get the fuck out.

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>>66931985
Plenty of music covers on youtube.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66932300
Whatever you say. She's a good singer and should've stayed that way instead of trying to do something she doesn't like, I'll give you that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66930800
Damn she's really good for an indie

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>>66927126
If i wanna hear singing without soul i just go to Irys channel, at least she have the dorito

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>>66928280
>Wasn't that some pill addicted girl?
The pill girl was the only one who have been caught, you wanna the anothers girls who have been fucked too gonna risk been terminate for exposing the guy?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66933281
HOLY ESL

[Anonymous No.]

>>66930800
She's actually impressive and that just makes it sadder.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
You say barely any views but she gets more views than practically every other English small corpo VTuber out there?

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>>66927126
Is this the newest tactic for 2 views? This is like the 3rd or 4th sad tweet or post y a 2 view for not being as well known. I guess farming pity can work.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>not Hololive
>not interested
Simple as.

[Anonymous No.]

Whoooooooooooooooooooooo?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66933281
Reminder that they're still the only corp that risked getting a bad reputation by exposing what happened and fired the manager who did such things. Imagine how many other corps around chose to hide everything instead.

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>>66933774
Nah, this is a girl who does not need your pity.
Pretty much any VTuber not in Hololive or Nijisanji would love to have a song cover with over 50k views on YouTube after 2 weeks.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66933663
Both Roca and Nina are really great Vsingers and fun streamers
If you aren't bound to being Holo-only I can recommend checking them out

[Anonymous No.]

>>66933774
More likely a false flag. Pretending to be an annoying shill is one if the easiest ways to make people hate a chuuba.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66934011
if they had just said it was a contract violation and nothing else then no one wouldve known, but they probably were legitimately afraid of it leaking which wouldve been much worse for them

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>>66934307
It's probably designed to catch retards who don't understand how good 50k views on a cover for a small corpo is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Eh, it's alright.

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>>66934486
t. retard that thinks that small corpos have any relevance at all

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>fair
lmao. this is showbiz not a charity

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>>66931365

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>>66933982
>Idol Gen2 had mega hype
>was the biggest benefactor of disgruntled hololive fans
>Advent gets announced and debuts
>they jump back
>Idol's downfall swiftly happens
prophetic post. I kneel

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>>66934085
I'm not commenting on hololive vs indie or small corpo. I just find it depressing to see talented people getting shit views. That said, she would unironically benefit from hololive just for the increased exposure but she probably wouldn't persue it, it's just sad that talent alone doesn't get results and there are probably 100s of small vtubers neither of us even know about who get zero attention, meanwhile if she got into vtubing earlier she would have been a huge name.

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>>66927126
there's lots of Vtuber singers way better than anything in Hololive, but singing is not what draws in views.

also the fans in this entertainment want shitty idol tier & anime opening music. if you go beyond that the vtuber buff no longer works and you are competing in the big leagues

[Anonymous No.]

didn't pick a loli model simple as

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
She's Dutch

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>>66935260
If you're being sincere anon, don't worry about Roca. The time to worry about was prior to joining idol when she was doing karaoke streams to 30-50 viewers on Twitch. Now she regularly gets over 1000 peak viewers watching her karaoke and she recently raised 65k for her donothon.
If you did this out of pity, don't worry, Roca is very happy with her situation.

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>>66931130
>Roca's only real weakness as a streamer is her retro game addiction because a lot of those aren't fun to watch
anyone whining about retro games is a fag, there's plenty of valorant and league chuubas if that's what you want.
I really like her DOOM and castlevania streams.
I also don't get how people say she's boring, she's a pretty good talker and very bratty and flirty

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>>66935728
It wasn't specifically about her, see >>66930800
It's just another exmaple but she should have more views and I literally never saw her until this thread.

[Anonymous No.]

I actually don't like her singing very much for rock songs, but she has a nice voice the rest of the time

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>RORO RORURIN
What's up with those awful jap names? Are they making fun of their own pronounciation?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66934388
NDA's exist for a reason

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
She should apply to Gen 4

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>>66935619
hololive has a good reason to stay away from eurotards

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>>66935852
NTA but as good as her retro streams are, it’s just a known fact that retro games are a debuff and don’t attract a lot of viewers. It’s not bad perse since her growth is mostly from her music anyway. That one single “boring” anon has been around since her Chaps days and is just some anti repeating the same comment every time she’s mentioned. Check the archives kek.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936252
It's Roca Rourin because she's the Roaring singer that likes Rock, also in her lore she's a sentient rock
Roca the rock that likes rock...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936368
And you should run for president

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>>66927126
Her fault for joining the hooker corpo sadly

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
It was really hot when she put that ice cube down her panties and stripped naked on stream. Idol is a shit corpo but they produce some pretty nice coomer moments

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>>66927126
>mogs
>Gura is returning
This didn't age well.

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>>66935866
I found Nina from this song a year ago and thought damn it's only a matter of time until she blows up big time
But here we are a year later and the viewcount barely changed, what a shame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZhjMCFMsdY

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>>66936663
You can't just say shit like that with no source.
I like to imagine many of them stream with hardly anyhting simply because the model makes clothes pointless in hot Japanese summers.

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>>66936929
NTA but both of those things happened in one stream, I think it will be in her first or second donothon vod

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
I watch her Karaoke steams bc they're really good and put her in the background sometimes bc I like the time she streams at, but I don't find her that engaging. She can improve with time tho, hopefully she does

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>>66927126
The only ones calling her a good singer are her jew hugbox shills. The same way the niji shills call Reimu a "cd goddess"
Both are shit at singing

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936392
Yeah, they know ameritards are more gullible consumers

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936663
>Basic ice cube challenge
>T-shirt laid out on a desk
>coomer moments
RUMAO anon please just watch AVtubers

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936443
yeah, zoomers make up the majority of stream watchers and I can see how they'd prefer AAA titles and FOTM.
I also watch Amiya Aranha, and other retro gamers so maybe im biased

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
And yet I still won’t watch your irrelevant oshi

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936753
>gura
>returning
This won't age well.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936929
It happened during her first donothon as some dumb challenge but is unfortunately not as “coomer” as anon claims it to be. I wish she would go full slut.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66937255
Gura doesn't need to stream at all and she will still make more than your 2view whore.

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>>66927126
In the end, the fact remains that she's still a literal who talent in a literal who corp, sure they're growing and investing a lot for that but to the general population that means she doesn't exist, regardless of how talented she is. Any other answer is either cope or seethe from someone who hates her corp.
Most importantly, 50k is a good number for someone from a small corp and she's doing better these days than she did in the past anyway.

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>>66937124
>Amiya Aranha
Based. I am lowkey hoping for a collab between roca and her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66937734
I actually first learned about chapipi cause of Amiya, I think chaps was in her chat one time and Amiya shilled her as an amazing singer.
Would like to see it too, but Amiya VERY rarely does collabs

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
That's oxymoron. The views are the metric of mogging. She mogs no one.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66937548
SEAnigs unironically thinking this is a bragging point is baffling

[Anonymous No.]

>>66938165
t. poorfag

[Anonymous No.]

>>66937663
Phase is already approaching hololive numbers and beating at least 6 of the girls there, so I wouldn't count any possibility out.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66938256
I could literally buy out your entire family and the mudhut they live in, little monkey man

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Roca is cool and I love her singing but she streams in the middle of the afternoon for me so I don't really watch her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66929639
>>66931130
Zaion is the terminated NijiEN girl. You're thinking of Zionists.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Her views increased.
She has some work left to do on her mindset to improve it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66938259
>Phase is already approaching hololive numbers
Lmao. ID doesn't count.

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>>66938259
This is the only cover released in the last 6 months from the Phase Connect girls that reached 50k views anon.

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>>66939118
And I thought that HoloID covers were tragic. What's even point of these covers? You can clip a random 30 seconds of Pekora's stream and it will get more views.

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>>66939010
pippa is higher than every girl in Myth in CCV too these days

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>>66927365
Literally one talent did that. Roca and desu her whole gen are great. Roca is one of the best EN vtuber singers. Poko is just all round great, awesome zatsu's and comfy streams. Kai is hilarious and so is Coni. Momo was good too but I've not really watched her to pass judgement.

[Anonymous No.]

Thanks OP, she hit 52k on her cover now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939271
you numbermonkeys are so fucking stupid and can only compare anything to hololive.
anything approaching 100k views is already good

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939118
>>66939271
Phases strength atm is that their viewer's actually turn up to streams. Most of their talents have amazing ccv's for the corpos size

[Anonymous No.]

Buy an ad

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939494
They turn up but they don't subscribe which is just bizarre.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939118
How tragic.
You know what’s even more tragic? Rin Penrose having 700k subs and struggling to break 1000 CCV while several Phase talents with a fraction of that are mogging her.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939494
Phase Connect are not a music company (despite some of the newly hired tards thinking they are or will become one).

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
I am subscribed to Roca but I don't watch her streams anymore because she isn't funny, she's just a cute girl with a good voice who is bad at videogames and that's like 99% of vtubers

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>>66939416
If 50k views is "success" what is this then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zBTSD__c-k
Does this mean V&U is more successful than idol?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939944
>proper 3D models
Yeah, I would say they are

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939944
Doesn't take much to be more successful than a literal prostitution ring where management runs trains on the talents

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
That's not barely any views though.
And she has further potential if her corpo doesn't straight up die (again) this year.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939944
I'm going to go with a "no".

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939798
Gotta admit, your Pippa is not so shabby. She's an exception to the rule tho.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Rumao. She's barely 3view. Should be thankful for those 50k. That's the last time she gets there

[Anonymous No.]

>>66941087
>screenshot taken right at stream start
a numbermonkey classic

[Anonymous No.]

>>66941517
live watchers has increased now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66941858
>3rd world language
The fucking irony of this guy calling anyone numbermonkey

[Anonymous No.]

>>66942315
bruh I'm not even the same anon. All I'm doing is pointing out Roca's live watchers has increased since the other screenshot was taken.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
No thanks I'll keep my foreskin

[Anonymous No.]

>management cocksleeve corp
no thanks

[Anonymous No.]

>>66942315
Lol. And 360 CCV is still like 5% of an average HoloEN member. The whole VTubing will be gone before these ants will get anywhere.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939365
>Literally one talent did that
Yeah thank goodness there's only one that did that. It would be a pattern otherwise...

[Anonymous No.]

>>66933982
Based holochad.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66933982
It's funny to see these small corpo whores and then you have Bijou who stuck to her goal of getting into hololive no matter what because she knew she was better. Now she mogs all these literally who cunts effortlessly.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66943590
Trying to get to Hololive is the only valid reason for streaming outside of Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66943590
I think it depends on the girl.
Roca should have waited because she is sing.

for the girls who can't sing and all of that traditional stuff, they had to make their own path.

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>>66934085
I checked them out. Meh. Nina's singing is just a bit above average, not something outstanding. That only leaves streaming, and I can find better gamers, just chatting or groups of girls both above and below her viewership.
As for Roca, she's better, yeah, but I don't watch chuubas for better, just entertainment, and the single mom is better at that.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66944215
Also unironically to have fun. At least one chuuba entered to have fun, found success as an indie, and is currently making it to an even bigger degree that she ever expected.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
SEA

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>>66939944
It's pretty impressive how mediocre that was considering how much money clearly went into it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66940250
What site is that?

[Anonymous No.]

this thread REEKS of pagpag

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>joins Idol
>starts sacrificing infants to Moloch
nice chuuba you got there idolkeks

[Anonymous No.]

>>66944578
Falling into this category is about as likely as getting into Hololive.

[Anonymous No.]

Roca on the catalog

[Anonymous No.]

Has any other EN vtuber found any real success from singing other then Mori? Not shitposting just curious.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66947651
i think Shiki from PRISM has a Sony record. I also may have misunderstood and presented fake news.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939944
>11K subs
Those views are totally natural. Either botted or paid advertisement.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66936252
>>66936512
It's a pun,
>Roca Rourin
>Rock and rollin'
Because she's big into hard rock.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66947572
It's surprisingly high quality for literal nobody.

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>>66947651
Asking the right question. Even most of the big holo covers are not profitable.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939393
Oh hey, in the 3 hours since this post it ticked to 53k views now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
Maybe it has to do with covering trash like foo fighters.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66949481
She also has a Roki cover and a Backlight cover if those are more to your taste.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66931110
man, women are dumb. they let some guy steal their youtube earnings and then sucked his dick for it.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66947758
>2m views
>11k subs
>16k likes
>113 comments

It's like they didn't even try.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66939365
>Literally one talent did that
Yeah sure, because men in positions of power are well known for picking only one of their workers

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>>66931110
The only ones that I can see that have gone quiet in YouTube have been Yuko and Momo, and Momo went dark prior to the firing for health reasons (which she had alluded to being a problem months before). Even Fuyo, who was the closest to Roca, is still fairly active.

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>>66949573
Jesus fuck, at least I know who the foo fighters are.

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>>66927126
I want to fuck her, but so does everyone else! Muchos quesos, TRISTE!

[Anonymous No.]

>>66950610
Well, if you don't know who Ado or Mikito-P are I can't really help you there.

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>>66927273
Small corpofags are less like that, because it has more 4channers/actual vtuber fans. Phase connect fans are noticeably more tribalistic than they were even a year ago, when it was just pippa getting 2k and the other girls around 300 or fewer ccv. Now pippa at 5k, tenma closing in on 2k, most of the girls bounding 500-1000. The larger the fanbase becomes, the more casualfags who define themselves by brand loyalty will join in and the more hostile the conversation becomes.

If Idol had numbers, it would be insufferable for you because it would be 5000 redditors on Roca's stream all going "ROCA BEST FUCK ENNA FUCK IRYS FUCK PHASE CONNECT'S BEST SINGER WOOOO".

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>>66949160
Not sure if you're trying to mock her or present it as a win. She can work at McDonald's for one day and make more than her channel does in a whole week.

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>>66942686
Katta is a virgin, her jewbs are for trve belieuers only.

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>>66927126
>no blue dorito
>don’t care beggar
>blue dorito
>HOLY BASED MY QUEEN

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>>66950963
You are not wrong. It's not about talent. It's about brand. Just look at fwmc. They used to be absolute nobodies and now they are worth 1000x more because of the brand.

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>>66950947
I think Roca's not going to have monetary issues any time soon, anon.

[Anonymous No.]

Gonna be honest bro. That whole head of management fucking the talent thing made me never ever want to watch anyone from this company. That is just way too big a redflag for me and honestly made me question whether I should ever get emotionally attached to any corpo vtuber again.

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>>66951654
there was alot more to the termination than that. if corpo's fired every talent having relationships with management there would be no corpo streamers.

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>>66951654
She did you a favor. Do you really think anonymous women on the internet are going to be pure for the greasy neckbeards in their audience? There is literally no accountability unless you dox them IRL and that defeats the purpose of vtubing.

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>>66951654
If you're not a good judge of character that's definitely understandable. Riro was always a druggie who loved the party. Warning red flags were flashing for me as soon as they announced the signing and I never watched anything past her debut.

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>>66951654
Did the other girls even try to reassure their fans? All I've heard is them do the opposite and start streaming less when that manager got fired.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66951654
>management fucking the talent
QRD?

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>>66927126
look at all these replies lmao

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>>66952251
Riro fucked one of the managers (I think he was married)
She also did drugs on stream for donos
She also met fans off stream to receive gifts in exchange for sex
But like the other guy typed she was always a wild slut, this was expected

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>>66951398
Don't kid yourself (((idol))) makes their talents spam these donothons and the jew pockets the money

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>>66927126
Of course people are shitting on her, Idol is pure shit but this woman is a gem.
Her streams are not too good but whenever she sings its kino. If only someone could save her from her shit corpo.

[Anonymous No.]

The cover art for this

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>>66952439
sounds like a failure on managements part to keep their tards in line. also wouldnt it be the manager fucked her and not the other way around?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66952439
>>66951398
Lmao. So not just "whores" in the sense of having bfs but actual whores fucking managers and fans? How many guys got to fuck the purple one for those 65k?

[Anonymous No.]

>>66952972
zero

[Anonymous No.]

Talented at singing, entertaining zatsus and actually passionate about her work. Only problem is the retro game autism, but thats an easy fix. She is too good for Idol and should apply for Holo. Talent can only carry you so far but branding matters, look at FWMC.

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>>66944516
>Nina's singing is just a bit above average
Sing for us anon.
No idea who the single mom is.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66952251
>>66952439
not just one of the managers btw
the head of talent management
makes you wonder if any other girls had their hand in that pie doesnt it

[Anonymous No.]

If she doesn't do male collab content I'll sub. I have literally no girls I like to watch right now.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66950947
Damn if only she could pocket money and never stream like the shark.
I actually prefer girls like her simply becuase it means they actually want to stream. Unlike a bunch of big names who clearly hate their jobs/fans.

[Anonymous No.]

>>66953632
There's a streamable of her talking for about 90 seconds about how she's only into collabs with other girls.

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>>66953632

[Anonymous No.]

>>66927126
>mogs every other EN singer
No matter how good a singer a vtuber is, there is one so great that no one in the EN industry can ever mog (picrel).

[Anonymous No.]

>>66954534
I kneel. Now you're selling your chuuba

[Anonymous No.]

>>66953318
>you need to be a good singer to judge others
Also, the single mom is Otsuka Ray, there's an anon who shills her in the /#/ thread when she streams, and she has that on-screen TL thingy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz_ESr1-KLY

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>>66956163
Holy shit. This is cute.

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>>66956728
Yep. She's pretty much who you have to beat if your content is music + variety, because in that case it's mostly about entertainment and not so much the quality of the singing. Otherwise, if your content is just music, the fuck are you doing not just doing karaokes or pretty much being a vsinger?

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>>66927126
Funding for bot farms has been reallocated to murdering children please understand.

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>>66953890
>>66954534
Ok I'm in

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She's a decent singer but a terrible entertainer.

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>>66958025
>amazing at zatsu
>terrible entertainer
Lmao. Her gaming streams are her only weakness because retro games, but I don't see how apex or FOTM games are any more interesting.

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>>66928331
Sounds like Nerissa

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>>66958603
>>amazing at zatsu
i see this shit thrown around with a lot of girls that are absolute dogshit zatsu.
the great zatsu streamers are the ones who play games maybe 1-2 times a week and the rest rely on pure talking.

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>>66958889
I'd recommend you my twitch whore, but I'd like to keep her drama free.

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>>66958889
Everybody thinks the girl they like is a great zatsudan.

Like you wrote: the ones who are truly great at it are the ones that grow and do well purely on chatting. They dont rely on games to be their content or watching videos to be their content.

Roca is a great singer, but she is a very very poor streamer who cannot entertain an live audience. If she could, her numbers wouldn't be in the toilet. Her karokee buff bails her out so huge her ccv would be in the 200-300 range if she didn't have karaoke streams.

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>>66958889
So.. roca? She plays games about once a week, has a weekly karaoke stream and relies mostly on zatsu for the rest of them

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>>66952439
Not just that. If the rrats are to be believed, that was the head manager and he was probably with more than just 1 girl which is part of the reason why most of them are now disgruntled (other than the Brave deal undermining their merch cut). IOW, stereotypical Jewish talent management.

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>>66959208
Aside from any of the holos, who do you consider entertaining streamers with the numbers to back it up then anon?

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>>66959538
why do you ask this you are gonna trigger all the Phasefags

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>>66959538
Pippa

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>>66959678
Doesn't she mostly do video react content?

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Roca inclining in 2024. Jamstones winning

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>>66948585
A bit over 3 hours later and another 1000 views larger.

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>>66959208
>They dont rely on [...] watching videos to be their content
Depends, you can get someone that does react sutff, but also does like 2 or 3 hours of full zatsus.

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>>66959208
The numbers she gets are decent numbers considering the size of the corpo she is in, so she is apparently entertaining enough

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>>66959538
the only one of roca's contemporaries that comes to mind is lia. she is almost exclusively a zatsu/creative streamer and anything else from game to karaoke debuffs her. a key turning point in her career was she stopped playing games and started talking.
i think he is being too harsh with his appraisal there are plenty of good zatsus out there. roca is pretty good.

>>66959678
this is bait

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>>66960421
NTA, but
>there are plenty of good zatsus out there
Correct.
>i think he is being too harsh with his appraisal
Not really, for me the bar is a twitch whore that I particularly like. Neither Roca nor Lia can reach her.
And on that matter, Holos also aren't instant zatsu queens, some of them are too autistic and it shows. Not that my whore is any better than the best of them, but certainly not as bad as the worst-to-average ones.

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>>66960094
Slow, isn't it? She would need 100 times more views to make the vids profitable.

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>>66960722
>good zatsu is this one random whore on twitch who I refuse to name
ogey

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>>66960722
your twitch whore better get numbers. because Lia grew from 2view to 4view and 100k subs on zatsudan.

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>>66960895
Anon, I was on the two threads with the JP indie, I definitely ain't dropping names. But like you said, there are many good zatsus out there, enough that Roca and even Lia fall below the median.

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>>66961038
she must not have numbers because otherwise we would know her and you wouldn't be treating her like a 2view, which invalidates the initial criteria >>66959538
"with the numbers to back it up"

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>>66960962
She revamped herself and zatsu started being the bulk of her content instead of games and react, do you see where it happened?

>>66961424
As I said, I really hope she can't be identified, but pic related.
>otherwise we would know her
She's not that well known despite not being a 2view, I'll give you that, for all that other people have been making waves in one way or another. Also, she has a fuckton of chatting hours now, like 4 times her second most viewed category.

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>>66961670
you're a fucking loser

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>>66961670
Not sure what Im supposed to see here but its hard to take you serious when you claim roca is bad at zatsu based on numbers alone, yet cant even present us with an example of a good zatsu streamer whos numbers represent her skill level because cant namedrop muh twitch whore. And when presented with a good zatsu streamer who does have numbers like lia you say shes below average as well?

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>>66962098
Imagine being too pussy to name drop your oshi. There's shameful, and then there's this chump. I'm happy seeing Roca seriously discussed.

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>>66927126
>idol
blame the jew for making a 6.8 million view tweet with alot pf people now assuming managers fuck their idols. They might as well beg Phase if they will have a new EN wave for them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps0dCY1l_Xs

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>>66936753
>Gura
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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>>66937066
tonedeaf-chama....

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>>66967068
Who is worth saving besides Roca?

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>>66939118
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NulcWs6-os
retard

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>>66951850
>accountability
>implying there is any moral or ethical reason for them to "be pure for the greasy neckbeards"

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>>66968538
Only 4.8k likes with 76k views. Roca's cover has 7.3k likes with 55k views. Roca's cover also has twice as many comments (444 to 218). Very likely that one was ad-boosted with those poor likes and comments metrics despite ~20k more views.

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>>66956163
>120k already
jesas

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>>66960094
Only took about 2 hours and 15 minutes to hit 55k views, a noticeable acceleration in views per hour likely since it's around primetime for America.

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>>66968451
Rin

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>>66927126
>>>food fighters
Shit taste.

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>>66960962
She grew on "internet culture deep dive" content following in Pippa's footsteps. And she was a 3view to start, only dipped into 2view territory due to menhera.

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>>66969396
>over 2 weeks old
>suddenly 11k view/day rate on something with only 55k views
Hit the algorithm?

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>>66969459
NTA, but I technically consider reacts as zatsus, although predebuffed.

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>>66969622
Yep, it did indeed. Was about 3k per day until Monday then hit 5k on Tuesday and looking close to 8k for Wednesday.

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>>66969459
>"Pippa's footsteps"
Pippa is a react streamer.
doing 1 chris chan stream a year and a half ago does not make you a react streamer.
that is not Lia's content. That content is not how Lia grew. Not at all.
also she was not a 3view to start. none of them were. they all started with about 50 after they debuted to a grand total of 600 people.

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>>66969459
look at lia's top 20 biggest ccv streams, there isn't a single react stream in it.
look at lia's top 20 vod views, there isn't a single react stream in it.

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>>66969622
Not sure if it's the algorithm or if it just got shared around more. I've seen it in a couple more places off-Youtube.

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>>66969396
56k now, ~2.5 hours later.

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It's called viewbotting

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>>66977853
Nah, it just hit the algorithm which is why it's getting all these comments on it over 2 weeks after it premiered.